Thank you.

Hi ya.

Well, we have a little bit of E-Metering to show you something about. Now, the E-Meter was developed in America. Then they forgot it. Actually, the E-Meter in Scientology is a very old instrument. Its based on the first — the first meter of this type was built over a century ago. Perhaps you didnt realize that. A century old. It was the Wheatstone bridge. It had the sensitivity that if you hit a cow hard with a baseball bat, the cow would fall down. And then they knew the meter was operative.

Well, I see you decided to develop some ARC overnight, so that is good. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

This meter — a meter — a psychogalvanometer is an integral part of the Keeler. I always get these two mixed up. Theres the Keeley cure, I think, and the Keeler lie detector. Its one or the other of those things. Anyhow, they use them with the police. The police fool with them.

You know, it isn't quite as bad as you think, you know. It really isn't quite as bad as you think. It's much worse.

And they have a Wheatstone bridge connected in a psychogalvanometer which sits along with the instrument. They basically depend upon the blood pressure gimmick. You know — did you ever go to a doctor and the doctor takes out this rubber tube or — I dont know — sack, and he wraps it round and round. And then he pumps up this thing and something goes up, and so on, and then your arm hurts like the devil. And then it goes down and then he looks at you fixedly to see if youre breathing and he says, "Fine." And he writes something down and then insurance company wont give you insurance. Well, that thing and a respiratory device — a respiratory device is the next item that they do. And they put it around the chest and they have an idea if the fellow breathes, "uh-huh-uh-huh-uh-huh-uh-huh," like that, hes crazy. And I always just thought he was out of breath.

The second day of this congress and I've got a lot of ground to cover this congress, but we fortunately have a three day congress and lots of time to cover it in. So I can sort of take it easy at two or three light-years per minute.

Anyhow, this blood pressure indicator and this chest device and this onehundred-year-old psychogalvanometer, put together properly, brings a price of eighteen thousand dollars. Isnt that interesting? They have thousands of operators for these machines in the United States. There are thousands and thousands of operators in the police departments. And the machine is always suspect because it has a 9 percent error._

Well, I'd like to talk to you today something about this and that and the other thing. None of it very important — merely affects your future and the future of the country and that sort of thing. I don't think anything could affect the future of the country just at the present moment, however. I'm pretty sure that's the case. Nothing could affect the future of the country. It's at no-effect.

When youre running one of these things you know nothing about past lives and you say to this criminal, "Did you steal the ladys handbag?" They never add the interesting question tagged to it, "in this life." And theyre liable to get any kind of a reaction. Let me assure you theyre liable to get any possible kind of a reaction. And they do. Men get hanged with this thing. Theyre operated by men who havent a clue about the human mind who are human bloodhounds with long flapping ears, and they claim out of these thousands and thousands of operators that there are only two hundred of them that are reliable. There are only two hundred of them thatll say they dont know.

What I've seen since I've been back is quite interesting. I haven't been out of the hotel, but a lot of people go down to the Congo for 24 hours and they're authorities thereafter; and a lot of people go to Australia and they're authorities thereafter. And seems to be that they're an authority in direct ratio to the small amount of time spent in the area. So I'm an authority on the present American situation because I haven't been out of the hotel since my arrival. But it's nevertheless good to be back.

I know some of these operators and I have worked with police-lie-detector operators and I am quite, quite fascinated with the generality of their activity. Ive put a police-lie-detector operator on his own machine and I have made it do things that he never dreamed it could do. And he is one of the two hundred. And I showed him conclusively that he had murdered, raped, burned and slaughtered. That he was guilty of every crime on the book. But not in this lifetime. He was quite interested — he was quite interested in the fact that the machine was wrong.

I've had a lot of complaints. We get a lot of complaints at Saint Hill — a tremendous number of complaints from American students there. They're put over the jumps, you see, very heavily and very hard and it's pretty grim, actually. Their day begins at about 3 A.M. and ends at 10 P.M. Oh, it's not quite that bad, actually 3:30.

Well, those are crude machines. Those are crude. Yet they hang men with them. But they have given electric detection or electronic detection of the human mind — they have given it a bad name. That is all that amounts to. Theres always the lower-scale mockery of the actual activity. And it gives it a bad name.

And the American students all find it is too cold and the English student uniformly finds the rooms much too hot. You see, they're used to a cool climate there. And the other students from the Commonwealth, well, they don't quite know what to think.

Unions are now passing rules saying that their union members must not be lie detectored. Naturally, naturally. I agree with them a hundred percent. Fellows dont know how. The reason the union gives is the operators are incompetent. Thats right! But they should give another reason. The machines stink. They might cost eighteen thousand dollars, but that is no index whatsoever of their accuracy. And their accuracy is poor. I think theyve even gotten sufficiently popular in the United States that they have been portrayed in the Dick Tracy comic strip. And that, of course, is a point of arrival for any police detection equipment.

But the truth of the matter is that you just can't cater to anybody, so — everybody, you see, so we just don't cater to anybody. And we've got the English climate turned on very well. English climate's turned on pretty well — up. And it has a nasty reputation, a very nasty reputation — the English climate does — totally undeserved. Much better climate than Washington, DC, infinitely better.

Well, with all that one cannot expect anybody to have much respect for a little box that costs about a hundred and twenty-five dollars, and so on. Its too small; doesnt cost enough. But it has taken me and a lot of very fine electronics people ten years to build a machine that really could function. And it starts putting the older machines, of course, in the shade.

And an auditor flew in last night from Florida. Couldn't come to the congress. Flew in, saw me, went down, climbed on a plane and went back to Florida. And they were getting on their fur coats as they left — not as they arrived. It's apparently warmer here than in Florida just now.

That we did anything with the older types of equipment at all is surprising. That is all. It is just absolutely amazing that we did anything with them.

This climate situation is very confusing.

The physical response of the machine — let me show you a British Mark IV. The physical response of the machine has nothing whatsoever to do with its mental response. That is the first thing you have to know about these — that they can go through all of the physical response tests. This is very, very important to you — this factor. Its taken me a long time to find this. But theyll go through all the physical response tests without registering mental response.

The reason why I operate in England might possibly interest you. "What's he doing over in England? What's he doing over in England?" Well, England is in communication with the rest of the world. That's right. That's true. That's — I'm — it's not even a crack.

You can have a machine then that reacts to can squeeze, tone arm action, sensitivity, everything it reacts, except it doesnt read the mind. The reading of the mind is quite independent of the other and so you alter one of these circuits without knowing how they should read on the mind, and youve had it.

You go down here to an accountant and you say to Price Waterhouse (American accounting firm), and you say, "Well now, we've got some money owing to us in Cape Town. Would you please collect it?" And the fellow says, "What state's that in?"

Now, a 1957 American meter was a good meter. But it was altered and altered and altered because it was simply given physical response, physical response, physical response. You see? And nobody paid much attention to its mental response. So, let the meter that was made then take responsibility for the fact that there hasnt been any person audited in America for years with the rudiments in. You want to know why your case is moving slowly? Look at the meter and the quality of the auditor in the operation of the meter. Thats all. And this is the fundamental tool of the auditor.

You think I'm kidding. You try to execute some particular administrative activity on communication lines — it's all from nowhere. And you wouldn't realize this unless you were in my boots because we have to have fast, fantastically rapid communications throughout Scientology. They're not always in a screaming fury, but when they go into a screaming fury, they have to be fast. We're always there many, many hours, years and days before anybody else thinks we even got started. We make up with speed what we lack in numbers. We make up in ability what we lack in guns. Our war is fought very successfully along very fast communication lines. Very, very little can be done to Scientology that we can't head off long before it happens, so that fast communications are a substitute for enormous resources.

This is a British Mark IV. Its a very pretty little machine. Its very simple, but oddly enough consumes the same amount of current whether it is turned on or turned off, or nearly so. In other words, the shelf life of the batteries in here — how long they last on a shelf — is how long they last turned on in the meter. Its quite interesting, isnt it? In other words, its current consumption is about as close to zero as you could get. I dont know how many microamperes or whatever this thing has. I dont know how small amount of current this thing throws particularly. I havent measured this particular machine. But it has the characteristic of measuring mental response. And if your pc has a withhold, or if you have one, it will find one.

You should look at the telex network which now exists throughout Scientology. It's very interesting. There isn't a major office that isn't — or there isn't an office that isn't on the telex. You can go into any Scientology office and be in direct communication on teletypewriter with any other Scientology office throughout the world. You didn't know we'd moved up that high. Well, it's there.

Now, when — one might say that one is terribly interested in withholds because he is interested in everybody being good — and that is probably the first idea that came into your mind when you first heard that Ron was interested in withholds. Then everybody will be good. This is a disciplinary action. That possibly was it. But that isnt true at all.

And England happens to make a better central for that particular type of activity. You can get to all parts of Scientology from England faster than from the United States. That always comes as a shock when you bring it up to America. But remember, America's a brand-new civilization. It's a brand-new country. It's only been here about a hundred and — two hundred, something like that, years.

This picture I have shown you of the reactive bank is just this: The more withholds a person has, the more solidly the bank stays keyed-in. And if you want to key out the bank and make the pc easy, you pick the withholds off. And it is simply technical. It has nothing to do with moral values. Unless you get the withholds off, the bank stays keyed-in and you get nothing done. And that is all there is to it. The bank simply becomes in a solid, agglutinous mass and nothing can be done with the bank in the presence of withholds.

And it hasn't had time to groove in ruts. That's what it amounts to. And one of the difficulties it's having on the international scene right now: it doesn't have any well-worn ruts. You can't drop anything accidentally and have it roll to the right position without any effort.

So the fellow who is sitting there not getting his withholds off or not giving his withholds to the auditor is only cutting his own throat. He may be getting even with his valences and this may be — this may be all very well; but in truth, it is under that heading of, it simply loosens up the bank.

And it's very amusing that old civilizations leave their communication networks in place. And the oldest communication network in existence now, which is still functioning, comes out of Greece. It's the oldest, civilized communication network. This is very fascinating to watch that communication network in action.

Now, this little machine is deadly, absolutely deadly in that you could find out anything about anybody with the machine. Now, that as much as anything else, is a liability for the machine because people look at it, you see, as a police instrument. And its not a police instrument at all. Well, the police wouldnt know what to do with this instrument. They really wouldnt. This doll — you put this in the hands of a cop, and he would say, "Well, did you ever rob a bank?" And it would tell him whether or not the guy robbed a bank two trillion years ago, you see? Bang! He wouldnt know what to do with that. You dont believe it? Put yourself on it and find out how many men youve killed, Miss.

The Greek is totally convinced that he is still the center of the world. And it's so long ago that he was, that you at this moment don't even think that he ever really was the center of the world. Isn't that right?

Now, this machine, this little E-Meter, doesnt have moral connotations. It has case connotations. And the very fact that people are afraid to get off their withholds gives you a good reason why people stay aberrated. A mores which forces people to have withholds is a mores which keeps people crazy.

You've thought of Rome. The might of Rome rolling out across the frontiers and smashing down the barbarians, but never Greece. And remember, it was Greece that exported all the civilization that Rome profited by. And the Greek sits down there in Athens totally convinced that he's the center of the world, that his communication lines still reach everywhere.

So there is the long and short of why we use an E-Meter and what an E-Meter is all about. And it is dangerous to use a bad E-Meter. And it is a bad thing for an auditor not to know these things perfectly and not to have a Class II classification. An auditor certainly should be able to get that.

And we look for this in actuality and it gives us a rather amusing slant on things. He is. The lines are still there. Did you ever hear of Greek ship-ping interests? Yeah, you have heard of it then. Those communication lines still do exist. And over that pattern lies the Roman communications system. And you go down to Rome and you find out that Air Paris has bigger offices in Rome than in Paris. Isn't that fascinating? At least, it looks so standing out in the street.

Well, it takes about two months of standing a person on his head and shooting him down and getting him up before dawn and putting him over the paces and Mary Sue sticking her head into the session once in a while and saying, "Tsk tsk tsk tsk." Only she really doesnt just say that. "What is that response? What is that needle response? What do you call it? What — what is that? What is that — that right there? What is that response?" Fellow says, "Thats a rock slam. Ha-ha." Its rising, you see.

But the Italian has never found out that the Roman Empire folded. He just never found it out. And he has communication lines and means of getting to the rest of the world that would absolutely clobber you if you inspected them. It's fantastic. It didn't even go down in World War II. An Italian is absolutely convinced completely that he's the center of the world because he has been for so long.

This is the basic tool of the auditor. Dont take it lightly. But it has a limiter. If an auditor has tremendous withholds himself, he does not want to know how to run the machine and he does not want to get any withholds off his pc.

I'm sure they still have offices there that are sending despatches out and are — is really set up to totally handle the subprovisional government of England. I'm sure there's an office still there that is doing that. It really hasn't noticed that England is gone as far as the Empire is concerned and that the communication network has moved to England. Now that is the oldest, still, long functioning communication lines in the world.

So it requires clean hands to audit with enthusiasm. Hence this campaign. Its just a betterment of technology that were interested in, not a betterment of your goodness. The day when you are totally good, I will sneer because Ill know that somebody overwhelmed you and pulled none of the withholds. You are entitled to a little wickedness. Of course, I think you went too far when you blew up that planet. And you may have some realization that they are still after you in that army. But one is not interested in goodness.

The British Empire — the sun never sets on it although it's now a commonwealth, although they're trying to give it away madly. Their businessmen and various other activities are all tied in neatly. It would interest you very much how easy it is to administer things from England because even the United States has better lines from England to the United States than from the United States to England. It's fascinating. Did you realize you were in a colony?

Youll find that man is basically good, and he will do the basic and best thing unless he is totally aberrated. If you wanted a society to be totally criminal, you would have it have total withholds and provide no means whatsoever for getting them off. And then you would have a totally criminal society. And it could elect anybody.

Audience: Yes.

Societies are as sane as they are in communication with one another and as insane as they have withholds. I can take one look at an organization and I can tell you whether or not the members of that organization have with-holds from one another because its a direct index of their efficiency.

Most English will make a joke out of it occasionally. They look — "Oh," I say, "well, I'm going over to America," and an Englishman will say to me, "Oh, you're going over to the colonies," you know, as a joke. And the other day the remark was made to me just like that, "Oh, you're going over to the other colony." I just looked at the fellow quickly. He wasn't joking. And someday you may make the revolution good. But you haven't yet.

Do you realize that because of valences and withholds that practically — there isnt a person on Earth who isnt himself an odd man out. Individuation. Cant belong. Cant participate. That is the keynote of this planet. And if we are able to attain an "all withholds off" — just that, not even fancy clearing on up the line, in Scientology — we will be the first true group on Earth. And I think thats worth working for.

Well now, why? Why, why these intermeshes? Why this tremendous amount of hang-up, tremendous longevity and endurance of old communication lines? What are these all about?

Now, we have a little program here that were going to put on, and were going to show you something about this. We unfortunately are using — I think — an old 1958 meter and it has a projector. And its a very sluggish meter and its not a Mark IV. Nevertheless, you can still make these things work.

I'd like to talk to you about problems. Wouldn't seem to have too much to do with communication lines of old civilizations.

And now Reg is going to do a little bit of auditing here.

But a problem is timeless. And when you have long empire communication lines which have run into a heavy collision here and there, you of course have run communication lines into problems.

Male voice: Now its coming on.

And those problems hang up and become suspended in time and move forward on the track as though they were independent. The problems are never resolved. The loss of Spain to Greece . . . Oh, you didn't even know that Greece ever owned Spain, but it did, you know. They still bring in singers from their colony in Greece in — it — in Greece they still bring in singers from their colony in Spain. They still have guitars and that sort of thing. Well, they had an awful lot of problems connected with Spain.

All right. Now, can anybody see that meter?

They were the earliest civilizing influence in there. It was just at the other end of the Mediterranean. These problems stacked up and, of course, in the cultural mind these things have never unlocked because the problems were never resolved and nothing ever as-ised these problems. And there's Greece at one end of the Mediterranean totally stuck with Spain on the other end of the Mediterranean because they've had so many problems. So the communication line floats forward because you must stay in communication with that area because you have lots of problems in that area.

Audience: Yes.

Although the civilization and the connection and the government and everything else is now dead and long gone, and most of the races that were there then have been moved around and upset in various ways, you still have these hard and fast communication lines. Why? Because a problem has existed. And wherever you have an unresolved problem, you continue to have communication lines.

All right. And now Id like to introduce to you how it is that a session should run and what is really important about a session.

I can see it a thousand years from now. Oh, maybe not a thousand but five hundred years from now, somebody up in London suddenly finds out about America by as-ising some old problem concerning America. There's some part of the British Empire still trying to solve restraining colonists from selling guns and whiskey to the Indians.

Auditor: All right now. Is it all right if I just give you a little check-over on some of your auditing?

See, it's a problem and they had to take responsibility for the problem, and therefore they kept a very solid communication line in there. A very heavy communication line. Well, it just drifts forward as a sort of a shadow or ghost line because the problem was never resolved.

PC: Mm-hm.

So anyway, the difficulties of communication are only those difficulties of resolution of problems. Only those difficulties.

Auditor: Okay. All right now. Will you give the cans a squeeze? Good. Have you had some auditing recently?

In other words, the communication line would as-is all the problems if it were good enough. That everybody is rather convinced of. The difficulties, then, are that the communication line did not resolve the problem and this becomes then part of the problem and the communication line stays in. Because the communication line did not do what it was supposed to do, which is to say, resolve the problem, so it's still stuck. So you've got the problem and now you've got the communication line. And of course, the communication line was a solution to the problem, so you still get this stuck communication line which is floating because the problem is floating. Well, now, how does a problem float and why?

PC: Yes.

Let's take a look at problems. It's extremely interesting to look at a problem because the last time you were in difficulty, it was because there wasn't an agreement after there had been an agreement.

Auditor: All right. And whos been auditing you?

The first stage of a problem is an agreement. It's just an agreement, but part of this breaks down into some kind of a disagreement. Now we're talking about problems in terms of mass.

PC: Stanley.

Joe and Mary are married and they're doing perfectly fine. And until they start accumulating head-on disagreements, they go on doing fine. But part of the reason that they go on is because they have problems and disagreements.

Auditor: Okay. All right. Now, where was he auditing you?

In other words, some of the disagreement is used to improve the longevity of the relationship. So there's always a little bit of a feeling on the part of a thetan that he ought to have just a few small problems. Nothing very catastrophic, please, but — well, you'll see some family joking about it. He'll say, "Well, he likes Brussels sprouts and she doesn't." They sit down at the table, and you'll always hear a remark on something like this. "Well, Joe, he likes Brussels sprouts. I personally don't see how he stands them," you see.

PC: In New York.

Well, that's just trying to get a little longevity. That's trying to buy a little time, so there's little clashes one way or the other. This is very note-worthy between two men.

Female voice: Cant see the meter.

You'd walk — you see two men who have known each other for a long time. They meet after a while and you would think they were fighting. Did you ever notice this? They're trying to get a continuum or a longevity. Not to be particularly profane about it, but one says to the other one, "Well, you old son of a bitch, how are you?" You know? That's fight talk, you know.

Male voice: Ron ...

And the other one says, "Well, I'll be on top long after you're under the ground. How are you?" See? Something like that. Did you ever hear this kind of a conversation? It's rather astonishing. These fellows are friends. What would they be calling each other if they were enemies?

Auditor: All right. Now, what house was he auditing you in?

So they get a longevity of their friendship, and they cement their communication lines by making little bzzzzoots on them here and there, you see. So they turn this smooth line which would simply as-is into just a little bit of a collision here and there, you see, and then you have this thing very nicely going along and so forth. They can always count on a nice row. They make sure that they play golf together, you see, and that gives them a little contest. And it's a very acceptable contest in the — it makes the thing float on the time track.

PC: Seventy-seventh Street and Third Avenue.

And if you ever want to see hatred arise, it is after that relationship has disintegrated. There is nothing quite as furious as the warfare between a couple who have loved each other dearly for a long time.

Auditor: All right. Thats fine. Now, how did you like being audited in that room?

When they fall apart, it's with exclamation points. There is but violence. I've often been interested in the degree of violence which can arise between a married couple. And I knew a fellow once that was foolish enough to intervene.

PC: It was fine.

He adjudicated from the violence of the argument that they really did hate each other. And he was wrong, you see. They had just become sufficiently anxious about longevity and survival that they were banging it in good and hard, and the basis of their argument was actually love.

Auditor: All right. Now, theres something there. Whats — something you didnt like about that room? That. Oh, whats that?

If you have ever done any patch-ups of this sort of thing where it has all gone to pieces, and taken the wife and the husband, and taken them and gotten them to get off some of their overts one way or the other, you would be fascinated at the lack of actual viciousness contained in those overts. The actual viciousness . . . They were upset because they couldn't help the other one. They were upset because they thought they hadn't "done the other one right." They were upset because their plans to further the longevity had gone astray.

PC: Just just ... He ...

And you get down to what they really were upset about. They started piling up overts right after they decided that it didn't matter because it couldn't go on, you see. But it was basically something that they were trying to help each other with. And that — you can trace nearly all those marital arguments back to that kind of thing.

Auditor: just.

They now hate each other because they loved each other too well and failed to express it adequately to each other, you see.

PC: All kind of block to the right-hand side of the ceiling.

Now, this sort of thing is, of course, a problem. Now a problem by definition is a postulate-counter-postulate. And at the moment when this condition of agreement — kept together with a little bit of natter and communication with one another, you know, yappety-yap and so forth — when you really do get a head-on collision, when you really do get a head-on collision, it will become this postulate-counter-postulate. See? So we get a big one, and a big one, and it'll be something more fundamental.

Auditor: A big ... ?

"I refuse to live in Riverton anymore." See?

PC: Block.

"You will live in Riverton because my family is here." See?

Auditor: A big block. Uh-huh. On the right hand side of the ceiling. Uh-huh. All right.

This is a decision to do and this is a decision not to do, or a decision to do something else and a decision to do something else, you see. And it comes on to a head-on collision. We get postulate-counter-postulate. "This is the way it's going to be." "This is not the way it is going to be." Crash! And if those are of equal magnitude, we move in here and that thing will hang in time and space. Because nothing disturbs its balance.

PC: It was a beam of some kind.

They now have a problem and that problem now moves on the time track. That is a real problem. Neither one of them thinks up the wonderful argument that will resolve the problem, such as, "My family is in Burbank." See? Well, the other one would think, "Well, there should be some give and take on this sort of thing, actually, and let's get a summer home in Burbank and work here for the winter," or something like that, and you'd have some reasonability about it. But neither one of them cares to give up. A Pershing tank has run head-on into a Pershing tank. Clank!

Auditor: Mm-hm. Okay. Now, anything else in that room?

And the — no matter how much forward tread motion you put on these two tanks, they don't move at all. And you get the illusion of time not going forward at all because this location, of course, is unaltered.

PC: No. I thought of a blue — a blue package that you keep paper in.

No matter how much force is put into it, there is no alteration of location. There is no alteration of opinion and there's no alteration of the circumstances or conditions. And what do we have? We have a result that it looks like it's forever because there is no hope of change. See? And there being no hope of change, there, of course, is no change and time equals change. And if there is no change, you have no time. And if there is change, you have time. So a postulate — counter-postulate adds up to no change, no hope of change.

Auditor: Uh-huh. All right. Did you tell your auditor that?

"Well, Joe, he's just never going to change his mind about that. That's it. That's it." Bang! Crash! Thud! You know? And "Bessie, she's never going to change her mind about that. That's all." They're just convinced, and to some degree they make sure the other one doesn't change his mind because they tell each other often that they don't.

PC: No. I said I could have it.

And where you get a no change arising out of the situation, you get a no time. And that is why the difficulty which you had 200 trillion years ago with another thetan can still be found in your bank. You see why? There was no change so no time. And it wouldn't matter how much time had gone by, you still have this interlocked problem and you will find the problem.

Auditor: You said you could have it. All right. Well now, lets ask you this again. Howd you like being audited in that room? Okay. All right. Thats all right now. Now, howd you get on with your auditor?

So therefore, the basis of the reactive mind is a problem. That is the basic fundamental of the reactive mind. A problem. There is nothing that will support anything in the reactive mind except a problem.

PC: Fine.

The thetan isn't sitting there saying, "Well, let's see. Let's make sure I keep this mocked up, keep this mocked up, keep this mocked up, keep this mocked up." He hasn't been thinking that for 200 trillion years. I assure you his mind has been on other things — girls and asparagus and all sorts of things.

Auditor: All right. A little reaction there. What was it?

Well, why is it, then, if he hasn't kept his mind on it, that it can still be found there? Well, let's assault those people in the audience that I'm glad to see that their friends brought here because Ron always gives a simpler lecture than a PE. I apologize to you for giving — exceeding your reality on this subject of past lives. We actually don't believe in past lives. Past lives believe in us.

PC: Nothing.

But that stick of candy that you didn't get when you were five years old and the tremendous problem that resulted in trying to get it — see, you had a big problem trying to get it and then you didn't get it and so — your brother was saying to you that you wouldn't have it and you were saying that you would have it and so forth, and it's just never resolved one way or the other — can still be found in your mind.

Auditor: Nothing. All right. Lets just check it.

You take a pc — will have stuck pictures in his mind to the direct ratio that he has problems. He has as many stuck pictures as he has problems. The stuck picture is just a sort of a tag showing that a problem has existed in that area. That's all a stuck picture is.

Auditor: When he was auditing you, did you have a present time problem while you were being audited?

And the more problems a fellow has had, why, the more stuck pictures he's got. Well, fortunately, it isn't arithmetical because it is monitored by the willingness to confront problems. So the willingness to confront problems is then expressed by whether or not he has ever confronted them, and that index to that is how many stuck pictures can you find in his bank. That's simple.

PC: Not really.

I'm sure that you, or at least a pc of yours or you, have sometime or another shut your eyes and seen a stuck picture. I'm sure that this has happened to you once in a while. And it wasn't about to go away. And you could chew at it. I'm not talking about auditing it now because there'd be dozens of ways to handle it in auditing. But you chew at it and nibble around its edges and sort of shake it up and admire it and do most anything that you could do to it, you see, and this picture is still stuck.

Auditor: Mm?

It's interesting how long one of these pictures will stay stuck. One of the engineers that was helping me design the British Mark IV meter knew nothing about Scientology at all. He was aboard for electronics only and I wanted to show him what the instrument was for.

PC: Maybe, but not really.

He sat down, he picked up the cans, I said, "Close your eyes." I said, "What are you looking at?" And he said, "Well, it's all black." And I said, "Well, what part of that blackness could you take responsibility for?"

Auditor: Something you thought of just then, was that?

About a half an hour later, he had been in a space car and had had the sensation of traveling over the top of a hill with full kinetics, had watched a city blown up with atomic fission, and in general had had quite a lot of things happen.

PC: Well...

The date of it was totally unreal to him. There was something on the magnitude of 400 billion years ago. He knew nothing about it. He didn't ever imagine that he had ever had any connection with it in any way, shape or form and there it was. And it was able to produce all those kinetics with him. And he was very happy with it and very satisfied about it, and it changed his whole life — that half-hour of auditing. I don't think he's ever been audited since but he sure knows what a meter is for.

Auditor: Yes?

Now, there is an example. There was some kind of a parked problem on the track. But, of course, you didn't see it in terms of a problem, you only saw it in terms of a picture. But isn't it interesting that the thing moved and changed when you ran Responsibility on it? Now let me show you that this person could resolve this problem by taking responsibility for the other point of view. And this person on this point of view could take responsibility for the person on this side. And if they mutually took responsibility for the thing it, of course, would go bzzzzzzt, and there would be no problem there.

PC: I keep thinking of nothing.

So part of the anatomy of the problem is that vector A must take no responsibility whatsoever, ever, ever for the viewpoint of vector B. And if they carefully arrange it so that A never takes any responsibility for B and B never takes any responsibility for A, you will have a problem that will go on forever.

PC: Do I have to tell you ...

You show me an organization — you show me an organization where everybody in it says that somebody else handles that and I'll show you an organization that has a lot of problems. Inevitably, they have lots of problems because just by the one factor of responsibility, they, of course — creating problems because the anatomy of the problem means that vector A must not take responsibility for vector B, and vector B must not take responsibility for vector A and thereupon and thereby, and only thereupon and thereby, will you get problems.

Male voice: She wants to tell you later.

One of the best ways to clean up problems in an organization or an activity is to go in and find out how willing people are to take responsibility for the things going on in the organization.

PC: Do I have to tell you now?

Somebody walks in the front door. Is anybody willing to take responsibility to ask him, "Well, is there any — are you being taken care of?" You find the person who is asking him, "Are you being taken care of?" is, in actuality, a file clerk in office 18 and has nothing to do with reception.

All right. Now, have you withheld anything from your auditor? Okay. Thats all right now. All right. Now, was he auditing you over a present time problem?

Now that would be an organization that had few problems and was functioning very well. But the organization where you stand in the outer hall for a half an hour, an hour, and clerks and executives and so forth, fly back and forth and by and by because the receptionist isn't at her desk — I would go back of this facade, and I could show you that the individuals in it were absolutely mired down with problems. They had problems beyond count. They had problems they didn't even know anything about. And every day they created another half a hundred.

PC: A few times.

And the longer they run on the basis organizationally that A must take no responsibility for B's hat and B must take no responsibility for A's hat, the more problems they will develop.

Auditor: A few times? Okay. All right. Now, was there anything else that you withheld from your auditor?

Now, you, of course, can take so much responsibility for B's hat that you take no responsibility for A's hat, and you get another series of problems.

PC: I dont even know what it is myself.

If vector A never does its job and vector B never does its job, but B does all of A's job and A does all of B's job, you now have new problems. Why? Because you've simply reversed these letters and you have B, A. It's elementary.

Auditor: You dont know what it is yourself. All right. Well, what did you think of when I asked you the question?

A fair seasoning of good sense is very good with this, but it can be expressed practically mathematically.

We tried to clear this. It was a big right.

A must take responsibility for his vector and must be willing to take responsibility for B's vector, and B must take responsibility for his vector and be willing to take responsibility for A's vector. And that problem will evaporate.

PC: Something to do with his wife.

But you've never been long at taking responsibility. Can you think of anybody right now that you wouldn't care to take responsibility for? Can you think of somebody? Yeah?

Auditor: Something to do with his wife. Something you withheld? You withheld that?

Audience: Yeah.

Okay. Did you tell him?

Can you think of somebody? Right now? Well, if you've thought of any-body, then I can tell you have a problem with that person. It's as elementary as that, you see.

PC: What time? No. did you? That. Come on, you tell me.

Now let's not look at it in reverse. This is straight way to. You haven't got a problem. You're will — unwilling to take responsibility for the person because you have a problem with him. You have a problem with the person because you're unwilling to take responsibility for him. See, it's the reversed.

Auditor: Wheres it gone?

You can almost force a police officer to arrest you by doing this: Go down and stand against the corner of a building where you've stood before — not that you would attract any attention of the police — and watch the officer on that particular beat and just stand there and postulate that you're taking absolutely no responsibility for the city government and no responsibility for that officer. And you could go on with this, just postulating this very force-fully, and he would practically turn around like an automaton and come over and arrest you for loitering.

PC: I love him.

But to this degree, then, men make their own problems. That's for sure. They always make their own problems. But unable to handle these problems over a long period of time, we get a type of situation here where these simple problems, each being timeless, wind up too ... There was that first one at the top right here at the bottom of this graph here, too — because remember, they're timeless.

Auditor: You love him. All right. Tell him that?

Now let's multiply this. Of course, this would also be — the A's and B's would be on top of each other too, you see. Now multiply this by 500, and I think you'd have a larger blob, wouldn't you. Remember, all these things are timeless. So they have no separate time to go anyplace else into except timelessness — a zone and area of timelessness.

Auditor: All right. You want to tell me later do you?

So now let's multiply it by 500 thousand. I think that would make a somewhat bigger blob here on the bottom of this chart. And now let's multi-ply it on this reasonable assumption that you have had at least a problem every day of one side [size] or another which you resolved or not resolved for the last 200 trillion years, thereby multiplied by 300 or 800 or a thousand or 20 or however many days there were in a year on this planet or that planet. And this gives you a figure which is getting difficult to write on a long wall. And that is the Goals Problem Mass. Do you see what its exact anatomy is?

PC: Yeah. A few times.

Now, because the problem which the individual got today, stacks up on this other mass, he is unable to as-is it easily and worries and fusses about it and is confused. And even when you audit it, it sometimes takes a half an hour or an hour to do something with this thing.

Auditor: Mm?

There are some pcs that are terrified of getting a present time problem because it'll eat up the whole session every time they get one, and the auditor will always handle it if he's a good auditor. So if he's a good auditor, he ARC breaks the pc, you see, by handling the present time problem, because he has to handle the present time problem — because if he does, he finds himself auditing the whole Goals Problem Mass with a process that he wasn't intending to handle the problems mass with. And, of course, the pc cannot be audited on the whole Goals Problem Mass on a present time problem problem, and it is all very confusing. But that's because all of the problems of all of the ages of one's longevity are stacked up in the same timeless zone. And that is the reactive mind.

PC: I choose to.

So the reactive mind is that zone of timelessness in which is impressed all the accumulative and varied problems of a person's entire existence.

Auditor: All right. Well, apart from that problem . . . All right. Now, was he auditing you over — oops. Apart from that problem was he auditing you over a present time problem? Okay.

Now, one of the things that's quite interesting about the reactive mind is that it can be parted at all — that you can get any part of it different from any other part of it. This is quite fascinating. How can you possibly do this?

Auditor: Keep thinking of nothing? What is it?

Well, just put it down to your skill and the fact that it hasn't totally condensed itself yet. And you'll find out that the reactive mind reacts instantly on everything, and that should be a sufficient proof. Reactive mind is an instant reaction. It reacts instantly. Why does it react instantly? Well, it reacts instantly because there is no time in it. So it will answer up as readily to a question about 200 trillion years ago as it will about a question yesterday. And it goes bang every time, providing you have a meter.

PC: The word — the word "nothing" comes All right. So thats fine. Now, tell me, was there any — any auditing question that you left unanswered?

Now, that is the anatomy of a bank. And that's what you've been in contest with. I'm sure that those of you who just arrived and were brought here by a friend in all innocence, realize that this is something that other people have, but tonight, just as you're going to sleep, when you close your eyes, sort of open up one a little bit inside your head and see if there isn't a stuck picture of mass out there someplace. And speculate for a moment what it might be, but don't speculate much longer.

Little one up there?

I find this a very fascinating fact that the problem of the human mind could be as reasonably and as easily stated as you have heard in the last forty minutes. So is this a very complicated thing if it could be described in forty minutes? 'Tisn't, is it? It's a little rough to take apart, and you have to know quite a bit to take it apart, but to understand what it is and how it operates on its most basic fundamentals is pretty good. Because we got some bright young sprouts in here today — I'm always glad to see kids at a congress — and I am very sure that some of these bright little young sprouts will explain this very carefully to their parents who probably haven't gotten it too well. Because I'm sure their parents, here and there, will think, "Well, it must be much more complicated than that."

Auditor: The word "nothing." All right. Lets check it once more then. What have you done to Scientology?

Well now, you understand that I have simply expressed what it is. It begins with a search for longevity and ends up with all longevity now, or all longevity is an absence of anything.

PC: Who have you something. No, its still kicking. Whats this one now?

It is inevitable longevity. They couldn't possibly keep from having longevity, and there's many a thetan would love to lay aside his thetan because life has become a wearisome burden. Every time he thinks "thunk," he gets "clunk." And he's so tired of it, you know?

Auditor: Who have you something? Who have you something what?

He sees this pretty girl. He sees this pretty girl and he says to this pretty girl, "Uh . . ." And he can't say hello.

PC: I just — well — the phrase came to my mind — several things — I really dont

So of course, he wants to commit suicide on the whole track, you see. Think of the plight of the man, see. Couldn't possibly think of anything else.

PC: Murdered? Raped? have anything particularly there.

I stopped a man from committing suicide one time in the London HASI. He walked into my office and he was very distraught. He was very upset. You see these people occasionally — less of them than you would think in Scientology but he was not a Scientologist. He was somebody who had been sent in. And he had been on the verge of blowing his brains out for a very long time. And he'd been processed for a while and he was flying all to pieces in various directions. And the auditor had him patched together with sticky plaster and then a piece of the plaster broke — and you know, this modern plaster doesn't stick well at all. And he had been obsessively trying to commit suicide for many years, so he went straight back into this dramatization. He was busy trying to commit suicide and he came into my office and he was in a screaming fit. And he was telling me and telling everybody in the organization that he was going to end it all.

Auditor: Mm-hm. That one — that one was

And I sat there calmly and looked at him and I said, "Well, what's troubling you?" And oh, my God, you see. This almost drove him up through the roof that anybody could put it that mildly, you see. And — of course, I'm always willing to listen to people's troubles. Perfectly all right. But I don't necessarily — I don't feel incumbent upon me to listen to them emotionally. Emotional listening is not necessary. You're listening. That's enough.

Auditor: Mm-hm. Well, what did you think of missed, at that point?

And so I said, "Well, you don't quite understand what I meant. I mean what actually goes umm or clunk or mm-mm or askew, and bothers you, you know? What is it? What is it? What's it do there?"

PC: I know it was the first thing that came to my mind.

"Oh," he says, "it's this horrible pressure. This pressure come down .. . This pressure and rrrrowr, rrrrooowr." And he said, "And I'm just going to blow my brains out and end it all." And I said, "Well, that's just the point, son. It won't." And he said, "What do you mean?"

PC: Just "several things." That was the thing that came to mind. "Several

I said, "Well, who do you think is creating that pressure?" I said, "After you blow your brains out," I said, "you're going to pull out of that body and take the pressure right along. And the next body you pick up, you'll have the pressure back again. And after all, you are here at HASI."

Auditor: Mm-hm. All right. Now, what was thethings" — the words, no pictures.

"Bbbbbbrooor," he says and walks out and goes back into the auditing room and went back into session.

Auditor: All right. Well, have you e — have you question then? PC: Hm. I thought of something else. ever spoken bad things about Scientology? Mm?

There was no gag on my part. I had simply imparted the horrible fact to him. And he must have realized down deep someplace that the last thousand bodies he had, he had knocked off because of that terrible pressure. And every time he knocked one off, it cured no terrible pressure because the terrible pressure was him. So these things are not a solution. So, of course, every time he solved the problem with suicide, which he had undoubtedly been doing for a very long time — every time he solved the problem with suicide, he, of course, simply added another failed problem to the mass of the reactive bank.

Auditor: Pardon? What did you think of?

So instead of making his condition bearable, he was making it less and less bearable, but there was no way out. No road out. No road of any kind.

PC: I thought of something else, "WhatPC: Not really.

Man hates to look at this fact. But this bank is not something he got from his mother. This bank is something that he personally has been accumulating for a very long time as a totally dedicated activity! And it's something he's going to keep right on carrying with him that is not going to drop off by accident. It's something that's going to have to be audited out. And what auditing in Scientology is, is the first time anything, anyplace, anywhere has been able to handle this thing called the bank.

have you done to Scientology?"

And you could electric shock the fellow and it'd key it out. You could do this and you could do that and you could do other things, and make him feel better for a moment. But every time you solved it, of course, you just added another problem on top of it, and it didn't look like it was getting very far.

Auditor: A little reaction there. All right. Ever

That perhaps would help you understand what Scientology is. It seems to me to have a better — instead of saying to somebody, "Well, if every day you touch your toe to the floor five times, you won't have ingrown hangnails." I don't think that's the order of magnitude with which you're operating. We're actually operating with the raw meat of human aberration, the raw meat of human beingness and the raw meat of human difficulty, and it's pretty raw.

Auditor: What have you done to Scientology.run it down at all? All right. Now, what was this first

Now, what it takes to pull this apart and what it takes to handle this shouldn't be confused with what I have said about the simplicity of its expression because that's quite complicated. It requires a level of precision that no auditor has previously ever attained. And we're just attaining it now. And we do handle that with that level of precision. But this is the difficulty explained. There it is.

one? Who have you murdered?PC: No. Ive been unsure about how to — how to tell somebody about it.

Now, actually, taking it apart is not difficult if it is done with great precision. But because this is human aberration, because this is difficulty, because this is the basic trap in which man finds himself, because this is the reactive mind which Freud called the unconscious and all that other thing and this — because that is it, the taking apart of it has to be done neatly. You can't leave straws lying around and litter on the floor as you were doing this because it just won't come apart.

PC: Murdered. Who have I raped?

Remember, automobile accidents, train accidents, spaceship accidents, falling into suns, being born on Earth — the most cataclysmic activities have assaulted this being and haven't shaken this up but merely added to it. And every one of those cataclysms is contained in it in folded-up, crisscrossedover-which pictures or from pictures floating free and loose out here. And when you take it apart, you have to be neat. You have to be precise and deft and neat. Otherwise, the pc starts reacting much worse than he ordinarily would, naturally. Because it's overwhelmed him all this time, it is very easy to overwhelm him with it some more.

Auditor: Who have you murdered? Who haveAuditor: Been unsure how to tell somebody

Now, what these things add up to and what these things are composed of and that sort of thing — the identities and so on — require a considerable precision of detection and neatness and so on.

: you raped? All right. Now, what haveabout it.

My victory is not so much being able to express this thing — although that is a considerable victory, it's more on the technical side of affairs — the victory is that I've been able to get auditors to do it. They have been able to do this, and that has not been entirely true of all the techniques of yesteryear.

you done to Scientology? All right. A

I'll give you an idea of what I mean. Do you remember Step 6? Do you know that Step 6 would work this very day? But did any auditor really look at Step 6? It says, "With a meter find a null object." Thereby with a bad E-Meter, with bad E-Metering and with the rudiments out, it could have never gone anyplace because they never would have had a null object.

little reaction on that. What was that?PC: Yeah. I felt really that I didnt do a very good job in explaining it.

Auditors could not do that one. People got into trouble with that one. And it resulted in no Clears, no matter how well intentioned the auditors were about it.

PC: I thought I havent done enough.

Well, today these other technologies are far more complex than this — merely testing on a meter for a null object. They're far more complex; but auditors are able to do them with great success and great ease, providing they are considerably trained. They have to be very, very, very arduously and precisely trained in order to accomplish them easily. Don't disabuse yourself of that. I'm not trying to sell training with the organizations or trying to sell you a British Mark IV meter.

Auditor: Mm-hm. All right. Well, just lets

The precision it requires in terms of training can be acquired. The instrument exists by which it can be done. Auditors are doing it successfully. There's no difficulties along in those lines. We're making good and ample progress. And we even have something a fellow can do before he gets up to what you call a 3D assessment or requires a Class III Auditor. That is very easy to do. People needn't start feeling so queasy about getting — "Don't get audited now because there aren't any Class III Auditors around," or some-thing like that. That's all nonsense. Go and get audited now because you have to get your primary and fundamental steps out of the road before any-body who could do Class III activities would even look at you. You see?

Auditor: You havent done enough. All right.check this question again. What have

So there's the way that is.

So what is it there, that you — anyou done to Scientology? All right.

You — we have these tools. We have the anatomy of this thing. We know where it's going. We know what we can do with it. We know we could straighten these things out. We've got it there. It simply requires a consider-able sincerity. And it requires a considerable application. And it requires an absolute zero of missed withholds on people. It requires a reality and a realization Scientology works, and so therefore it is well worth making work well! That is the other part of the phrase. And basically, under those fundamentals, here is the anatomy of the bank. The precise tools exist to take it apart. The skills can be taught. Auditors can do these things.

omission?Thats clean now. Okay. All right.

There are many lighter things can be done which assist this operation and have to be done before you can start in with a knife and sledgehammer.

Now, is there any other question that PC: Mm? your auditor missed on you? Ooh!

And there it is. It's pretty well a fait accompli. It's incumbent upon us now — it's incumbent upon us broadly to put a shoulder to the wheel, demand that level of precision and preciseness, demand that level of skill and training, demand the precision necessary in an E-Meter, and get sincere and get very alert to these various factors and as a group mores — bring them into being and make them stick — and we will have won the whole way. There is no doubt about that in my mind. And I can tell you with great confidence, in the next few months you will have, certainly at the latest, no slightest doubt about it in yours.

Auditor: Is that an omission youre telling me?pC: I — Its ...-

Thank you.

PC: An omission? Yes, think so.

Auditor: Yes?

Auditor: All right. Okay. Lets ask this — clear

this question again. What have youPC: I — the thing that came to my mind is

done to Scientology? Still kickingyou just asked me what Im nervous

here a bit. What is it?about.

Auditor: Yes? Oh, I see. That. All right. Do we have a little mutual agreement here?

Auditor: All right. Okay.

All right. Now.[To LRH] All right Ron. Do you want some more?

PC: Mutual agreement on what?

LRH: Yeah, go ahead. You still havent

Auditor: Thats all, what we said. I still didntcleaned up what shed done on feel . . . Do you consider that okay? Scientology.

All right, now.Auditor: All right. Well, thats clean now, Ron. Thats clean now.

this a question that he missed onLRH: All right.

you?

Auditor: All right, now. Just this question —

PC: Ive never even been asked it before.oops. Now, what have you done to

Scientology? All right. Theres still a

Auditor: You havent been asked it before.reaction there now.

Okay. All right. Now, is there any other question he always missed on that?

PC: Ive helped all these people by coming

you? Theres a little reaction. Whatsup here.

Auditor: Yes. All right. Okay. Well, is there .. .

PC: Nothing. I was given a Joburg.Check this again. What have you done to Scientology?

Auditor: Mm-hm.

PC: Havent done enough.

PC: And a .. .

Auditor: Well, all right. You havent done

Auditor: Oh, given a Joburg?enough. All right. Once again, what have you done to Scientology?

PC: Yeah.PC: Oh, I probably said it was no good in Auditor: Uh-huh. All right.

the beginning.

Auditor: Uh-huh. All right. Okay. Once more. PC: Or a Sec Check or something.What have you done to Scientology?

Auditor: Yes?Cleaned it nearly.

PC: And I kind of — one stage put a blockAll right. Okay. Now, what have you

on — on getting anything from anydone to an auditor? That. Mm-hm. past lives because I wanted it to be for

this life.PC: Can I tell you later?

Auditor: Yes?Auditor: That bad? Mm?

PC: And I guess I felt guilty about that,PC: Ill whisper in your ear.

because I cleared it with the auditorAuditor: All right. You tell me fast. and never went past life.

Auditor: Mm-hm. All right. Now, was there aOkay. Thank you. All right. Now,

question on that Security Check thatwhat have you done to an auditor?

was missed?Get a little kick there. Something else?

PC: Cant think of anything.PC: Doris.

Auditor: No. Okay. Its cleaned up here now.Auditor: Mm?

PC: Mm-hm.PC: Doris. Shes an auditor.

Auditor: Mm-hm. Well, what have you done toLRH: There it is.

her?

Auditor: Mm. Really.

PC: Nothing.

PC: I dont think its to do with this life. Auditor: No. All right. Any other auditor?

PC: No.Auditor: You dont think its to do with this

life? All right. So what is it to do Auditor: Mm?with? Tell me something there.

LRH: What have you done to Ron?PC: I thought of masturbating.

Auditor: And what have you done to Ron?Auditor: Masturbating. All right. Okay, well,

Mm-hm. That one.lets check this again. What have you

done to Ron?

PC: When he came in with a plaster on

his finger, I thought, Hm, hes gotPC: Well, I had a picture of kind of

plaster on his finger. Then I thoughtpushing a knife through his belly. he did it on purpose.

Auditor: All right. When was this?

Auditor: Okay. All right. That was the thought

you had, was it?PC: A.D. something.

PC: Mm-hm.Auditor: A.D. something. Okay. All right. Now, lets clean it up again. What have you

Auditor: All right. Well, what did you do todone to Ron?

him?

PC: I sent him a Christmas card.All right. Ive got it set, Ron.

Auditor: Mm-hm. All right. Now, about thisLRH: Thats all, thanks.

unkind thought. Did you tell anybody

else this thought?Auditor: Mm?

PC: No.LRH: Thats all.

Auditor: Mm?Auditor: All right? Shall I end off here?

PC: No.LRH: Yeah. Give her the end rudiments.

Auditor: No. All right.Auditor: All right.

Lets just check this again.Now, have I missed a question on you? Whats that?

What have you done to Ron? No, its

still there.PC: Having to do with being Clear?

PC: I dont know.Auditor: Something to do with being Clear. All

Auditor: [To LRH] Except that wasnt whatright. What was the question on this?

you experienced.PC: Why arent you Clear? [To pc] What have you done to Ron?

Thats clean, Ron.Auditor: Why arent I Clear.

?

LRH: Shes got a little tick there.PC: Why arent I Clear?

Auditor: [To LRH] You want me to pull it?Auditor: Why arent you clear. All right. Okay. Now, have I missed a question on

[To pc] Come on, whats this tick?you?

PC: No.PC: No.

Auditor: All right. Im just going to ask itAuditor: Okay. All right. Well, just look around,

again. Have I missed a question onhere and see if you can have

you?something.

PC: Uh-uh.PC: All these faces.

Auditor: Okay. All right. Have you withheld

anything from me? A little reactionAuditor: Mm-hm. All right. Something else

there.

PC: Theyre all pink.

PC: I was so nervous backstage, I thought

I was going to pee all over the placeAuditor: Okay. All right. Now, is it all right

when I came on.end this check now?

Auditor: All right. Okay. All right. Now, have

you withheld anything from me?PC: Fine.

PC: No.Auditor: Okay. End of check. Thank you.

Auditor: Okay.PC: Thank you.

Now, how do you feel about myLRH: Thank you very much, Reg. Than]

having given you this check?lot.

PC: Okay.

Auditor: Thank you, Ron.

Auditor: All right. Have we got an ARC break at all?

LRH: And thank you, Maureen.

Well, now you see it — it looked simple, didnt it? Looked very simple, didnt it, huh? Well, it is very simple. You simply have to know exactly what you are doing. But you can know what you are doing.

Now, let me mention something here. Now, let me mention something here thats very important. This young lady has just been audited and the rudiments are that far out. Ohhhhh, what was her auditor doing? Whistling Dixie? Now look, ladies and gentlemen, she would have been absolutely parked in her processing from there on out!

Anybody who knows his business will know I speak right and I am not trying to exaggerate this. I just want you to do a good job. My entire concern about these things is simply the concern of efficiency and effectiveness. That is all.

Now, what was this auditor using for an E-Meter? An old tin pot of some kind or another?

But now look. If I can build into your consciousness during this congress just this one thing — that that is a serious goof! That that is not, "Well it — you know — it doesnt matter. Its all very crowded so it doesnt matter, anyhow, and so forth. You know. Nothing matters anyway because all that matters, and so forth." To hell with that attitude! That is a serious flub! This girl was audited with her rudiments out. This girl was audited with withholds on Scientology. Whether she did or did not have an overt on me has nothing to do with the price of fish. But let me assure you, if you have lots of overts on me, the horror of the thing is simply that your case doesnt advance. And I dont give a damn if you have overts on me! But I do care if your case advances.

Now, perhaps that is an unreasonable attitude. The better and more stylized attitude about it all is — probably youre more used to this on the whole track, you see? — "Now, dont take my name in vain, and we will all have a nice temple."

It is true that people who have overts of one kind or another on Scientology, Scientology organizations, Scientologists, auditors, the auditor who is auditing them, me or other principal personnel in Scientology, park their cases. Im not trying to just sell you on the idea that all that hierarchy should be regarded with deep reverence. Your crime is not cursing out loud or putting it right when you feel there is something that should be put right. But when you get big withholds of one kind or another it just parks the case. Clank!

The way to play this — if I wanted to overwhelm you completely and entirely as a person — the way to play this would never let you get your overts off but would rig it so that you felt very guilty any time you ever thought anything bad about me. And if I could just rig it so that this was the highest crime in Scientology and if everybody would stand around and go, "Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk," your case wouldnt make any advances either. But youd sure be overwhelmed. And nobodys interested in overwhelming you.

You stack up a lot of overts and withholds on what comprises the last two pages of the Joburg, and what do you wind up with? You wind up with no case gain. You wind up with the fact that you feel the only thing that will let you out doesnt work. And therefore, it doesnt matter what you do to it. And out the bottom you go.

Now, I have a sufficient level of responsibility to be able to tell you very bluntly that I want you to get out of the sump. I want you to get Clear. I want you to be happy yourself. My only reward is simply that. Now, do you think I would tell you anything that would turn you around and put you deeper in?

And when I tell you, "God, please dont audit people with their rudiments out, please, please," believe me, will you? Just believe me. And dont leave withhold questions uncleared. Clear them all. Because youre going to leave somebody with ARC breaks. Youre going to make the auditing sessions very rough. Youre going to make it so nobody gets a gain. And you have trapped somebody in the mire. And that is not a small thing to do. Withholds are that important.

Why are they that important? Theyre that important because as a person withholds more and more on top of the reactive bank, the reactive bank keys in more and more and more and more. And the more withholds, the more key-in. And while youre busy stirring up this reactive bank with very powerful processes in Scientology, you have fixed it so nothing releases by letting the person have uncleared withholds while being audited. Thats sort of a dirty trick. Its like putting somebody in a — an iron turret and clamping down the door and then turning fire hoses loose inside. Ah, the iron turret is the withholds. He cant move off of that point. He cant progress on that track. He cant go anyplace from there. And yet youre running processes that stir up all the energy in the mess and turn it all over and go round and round and round. But he cant get out of it. And he will become a very unhappy person. And he will then begin to believe that the only thing that can let him out doesnt work. And that its no good. And that is an overt. I think you will agree with me that thats an overt.

Now, if we didnt know what this was all about and if we were ignorant of it, oh, well, thats one thing. But if were not ignorant of it and we still continue to do it, Id say that was nearly criminal.

How can anybody be audited today and wind up at the end of an intensive with a meter reacting on rudiments and withholds, uncleared and missed auditing questions and overts? And that wasnt very much. This little girl had done nothing. She had unkind thoughts because she had an overt. By the way, that is the mechanism. They think they have a terrific overt, or they do have a terrific actual overt, and then they go on thinking unkind thoughts. The unkind thoughts are not the overt. See, its the earlier overt that makes the unkind thoughts come up.

The only reason you tick anybodys unkind thoughts is to find out if theyve got an overt. You dont pull the unkind thoughts. That could take you hours. You pull the overts and that takes you, if youre good at it, seconds.

The way you trap somebody up against something is to cause him to have a problem with it. And the way a person has a problem with it is not be responsible for it. And if a person withholds thoroughly enough from the other side — A and B as I showed you earlier — if he withholds at all, he is then being one-sidedly irresponsible for the other side of the problem and it doesnt blow. Purely technical.

But it crosses, of course, the mores of life. It crosses existence as it is today, because there have been a lot of slave-makers around. There have been a lot of people around who were very, very, very anxious to have the rest of everyone in a trap. These people were afraid.

This is the same rationale that if we put — if one man in a city can put the rest of the city in cages, then none of them are going to attack him. And it requires the rather interesting idea that everyone in the city is going to attack him before he wishes to put himself in a position where he is the only one in the city who can walk around. And how long do you think that person is going to feel free after he puts the rest of the people in jail? He isnt going to feel very free. Hes going to be awful stacked up on the track.

But it takes that kind of psychosis to put everybody else in cages, just so self can be safe. I dont feel that insecure. And most of you dont feel that insecure. What about a fellow like Hitler? My God! What level of insecurity the man must have had. He wasnt trying to conquer the rest of the world. He was trying to get his hands on it so he could put it in a concentration camp, so Mr. Hitler would be safe. Im sure that was all it amounted to. Im sure it upset him to have all those people free.

Well, if Ive got nerve enough to let you free, for Gods sakes, have nerve enough to do it right. Very simple. You saw an auditing session. Didnt look very complicated, did it? Actually, it wasnt a very easy session to pull off. It takes a good auditor to pull off a demonstration session like that, and dont kid yourself otherwise. Because the pc is jumpy and the pc doesnt react properly. And you got to carry it out and you got to pull things in front of a crowd; and youre actually releasing withholds not just an auditor in a small auditing room, you see? Youre setting up these public address systems throughout the world, the way it seems to the pc, you see? And make the pc give up ..on anything, thats pretty rough.

But thats a very standard session. Thats just a little patch-up session, but nevertheless, it had all the elements of a proper session. Only when he was trying to clean up the withholds in the middle of the thing, and so forth — ordinarily the process would have fitted in there. Or the Security Check would have fitted in there. Thats what would have fitted there.

But let me — let me assure you of this one point. If we can conquer this one idea — that it is worth doing very well and it is worth doing very thoroughly — it is actually very simple. But if we can just get the one idea that its worth doing well, well have won all the way because what we know now will carry it all the way. And its very well worth doing.

Ill give you an idea. We have somebody and weve taught him to do what we call a Joburg — a Form 3 Joburg. The reason its called a Joburg is because it originated in Johannesburg, South Africa, taken out of the laws of the South African courts which list quite a few crimes. And it was dreamed up there and it didnt have any name.

We had things we called "Security Checks" and this is, of course, a misnomer. These things have been used for security in the past and it graduated over into processing and hardly anybody has started calling it a processing check. Nobody has called it that, basically because every time they came to America they would have to say processing. And every time they went to England they would have to say processing. And "security" is "security" in both countries. Joke.

Anyway, this is a "Joburg" — is the slang phrase for it, and its page after page of, "Have you raped, murdered, burned, shot, stolen, cut the throats of, betrayed, dissected, practiced psychiatry, been a newspaper reporter?" Any crime in the book is listed on this Joburg. The last two pages of it are devoted to Scientology crimes.

You just saw some pulled just now. Those are the high crimes that — well, listen, a pc could have raped, murdered, burned, shot, slain, skinned alive and so forth and still get through. But they cant have run around their neighborhood telling everybody that the Central Organization was no good and get that much of a case gain. That happens to be fact, not advertising or propaganda. Why? Because they have overts on the thing that will help them, so they cant take responsibility for the very session they are in. That is the mechanism.

So the last two pages of the Joburg is a trite phrase, a cliché, when you talk of sci — of Security Checks. Theres the Joburg and theres the last two pages of the Joburg. And an ordinary sentence for an auditor who wont get withholds off — because we know if he wont get withholds off, the first thing we know about him is that he has withholds, see, with magnitude. See, obviously he cant take responsibility for both sides of the auditing session because hes sitting there, you see, withholding, and the pc is over here and so he cant be responsible for the pc. See how simple that is?

So we make sure that when he gets processed that he gets himself — and this is the exact sentence — the last two pages of the Joburg and a Form 6. Whats a Form 6? Its all the mis — horrible handling he has done to pcs any-place, anywhere. And the last two pages of the Joburg is all of his overts off Scientology. If we do those two things for somebody, hes all straightened out. Once in a while, we have to go to extremis and we say, "The last two pages of the Joburg and a Form 6 with guilty version — with a make guilty version." Now, thats sort of extremis. Make guilty version._

You find out every once in a while some auditor goes in for the fact, pc gives up a withhold, auditor makes the pc guilty of the withhold. So a Form 6, guilty version, simply is a basis, "Have you ever made a pc guilty of ..." not "Have you ever done . . ." and thats for every question in it.

You could also run the Joburg with this. You could say, "Have you ever burned down a house?" is the question, you see. And you could say, "Have you ever made anybody guilty of burning down a house?" You get almost equal magnitude response.

It isnt a withhold but it is the setup to have a withhold about burning down houses. And peculiarly in Scientology, here and there, an auditor has set out to make it his business to enforce the morals and mores of the razzle-dazzle temple group of the Marcab Confederacy or something of the sort. And every time a pc gets off a withhold saying he murdered, burned, shot down, didnt give the right change to the streetcar conductor, why the auditor would sit there and say, "Oh? You realize, dont you, that that is a crime?"

"Oh, yes, yes."

Its just kind of a joke because the fellow is a fine auditor now.

The one lovely thing about Scientology is nobody ever holds your past against you. The past is our business and so nobody holds your past against you. That makes us one of the oddest groups that ever existed because the only reason groups exist here on Earth at the present time is somebody has a record of your past and might be able to hold it against you. So, therefore, you had better stay in line. That is the single mechanism of keeping people in line used here on Earth today.

You dont want to commit a crime because then you will have a police record and then you wont be able to get a job. Do you get that rationale? Well, thats holding your past against you. And, of course, some of these fellows fall from grace.

But this particular chap — he isnt here today and I shouldnt be telling stories of school because hes a fine auditor — he has become since a very fine auditor. The only reason we made way — made a dent in his case was to get the "make guilty" on the — on the Form 6. And this "make guilty" on the Form 6 — you see, thats what youve done to pcs — thats the whole of the Form 6. And "have you made guilty, have you made guilty, have you made guilty . . ." on every question — was just bang! bang! bang! crash! crash! crash! You know? And instead of, "Have you ever upset the pcs chair — have you ever kicked a pcs chair intentionally in a session?" you see, or something like that. "Have you ever made a pc guilty of kicking a chair in a session?" You see. Any-thing like this, you know. Crash! Crash! Crash! We finally traced it back.

We found out that it wasnt attributable to Scientology. It was because he had apparently been one of the high officials of the French government during the Terror. Hed evidently been one of Robespierres boys. And, of course, he was just carrying it over as a habit pattern. Soon as we got rid of that, bang! Fine auditor. See, he knew what to do. He knew the best thing to do. To enforce the mores of the society, of course, all you had to do was make everybody guilty, then everybody would be good and then everything would run fine.

Except let me call it to your attention that that philosophy has been going forward now for two hundred trillion years and has yet to work well. And I think its time somebody held it to question.

Now, if I can — if I can coax you forward into the realization (1) that it requires an instrument that will read in order to find, and (2) that it requires a great alertness and a perfection of training in order to do a thorough job, and (3) that it is the highest crime in the world to leave a Sec Check question missed — if I could just leave you those, do you know that Scientology in the United States would go at a much higher velocity than ever before? You would almost not recognize it with the speed forward that it would make. It is that important.

He who hath withhold will not take responsibility for nothing, including him. We dont even want you to take responsibility. All we want you to do is relax and be yourself. You know really, youre quite a guy, and wed like to meet you. But were not liable to find you back of all those withholds.

No, that is our program. It has nothing to do with morals. It has every-thing to do with upward and onward and freedom. If you can just be brave enough to be good enough to get the job done, you will be free.

Thank you.