This is the third hour afternoon lecture. It’s December the 18th.

This is the last evening lecture of the lecture series, December the 18th, first hour.

The… uh… graph which you see up here is a graph demonstrating present time, and uh… third part of the graph we have here, and all it is is just uh… the… the amount of energy a person uses to think. That would be the lowest level on this picture: the amount of energy a person uses to think.

I want to talk to you something about how you talk to people about Scientology.

Of course, A PERSON DOES NOT USE ENERGY WITH WHICH TO THINK! That is the essence of nonsense. Because if a person uses energy to think, a person could only think then with facsimiles. And how can he only think with facsimiles?

And we’ve been just getting along fine here on an informal basis, we’ll just keep on. Somebody has to change the spotlights.

Well, because if he uses energy to think, all he’s doing is introducing automaticity. He throws out a little energy beam and that restimulates something or other and then that tells him what to think, and that’s the way he gets into this. He starts trusting his uh… facsimiles and experience rather than trusting his ability to be.

Anyway. The conviction which you are trying to carry is a conviction of action; it is not a conviction of reason. And as such, you actually need a little preparation, not on the catechism basis that they give in some of the… some of the cults on this line whereby anybody that asks you anything then they have the pat answer for it. Let’s go at it on a reverse vector again.

So, he’s up there on a gradient scale, and we see well into the future there, no energy, no ‘E’. There isn’t any energy there used to think, a person postulates, a person decides.

There’s a lot of people tackle a guy on anything that anyone knows. What is invalidation? Invalidation in actuality is the impingement of force. That’s invalidation.

Decision. There is no higher decision than… than… than just saying so. You… you say so and it’s going to be true, so therefore you say so.

The lowest level a person can get on the tone scale is not wanting to criticize – not wanting to be critical. That’s as low as a person really can get… is not wanting to be critical. Because criticism builds right on up into invalidation, and that’s a gradient scale and it goes from criticism on the aberrated or stimulus-response thought level, fades on in to emotional reaction, counter-emotion to somebody’s activities, and goes right straight to the next point of the gradient scale which is counter-effort. Now, there’s your three levels, and of course they come up from that. As a person withdraws from force he goes down from the application of force into not wanting to apply the force so he applies emotion. And not wanting to apply that so uh… he applies an aberrated stimulus-response thought, and then not wanting to apply the stimulus-response thought, he gets into a much more involved situation than he would normally propose.

Now, there are a lot of little sneaking tricks a person plays on himself. He says, „Well, that wouldn’t be any fun if you just said it was the case, and then it turned out to be the case; there wouldn’t be anything to expect, you see, and therefore I wouldn’t get any…“

We’ve got here a question which you probably need in order to settle some of this in your own mind, and that’s simply here on this graph; we have here our 20.0 (it has been days since I used one of those) and here’s… down here is 0.0. And let’s take a look here and we’ll find this is an action level in that area somewhere around here: 20-22. Now action can carry with it, but does not necessarily carry with it, the delivery of force. But it certainly carries with it, the delivery of effort of one sort or another, but it’s the type of effort that you wouldn’t ordinarily recognize as effort because it’s in such wide space and delivered so regulatedly that it is very closely monitored and activated effort. So, you don’t call that effort as the effort band as we know it. But that’s a harmonic, an upper harmonic of the effort band. Or you could say that work and matter themselves are the lower harmonic of this, the actual action band or effort band. Action becomes solider and solider and solider and eventually becomes matter.

Oh, what a… what a trick. That… that is just a trick, by the way, it isn’t the case. When a person gets up to a point where he’s… starts to think with no energy, boy things really start to get smooth, and he starts to enjoy things in a calm, beautiful way and he can introduce all kinds of randomity, his interest level gets very high; his interest level’s very high, he doesn’t have much liability for anything.

So let’s take a look at this center band, and let’s plot three things which you should know of pretty well in thought, emotion and effort, and find out where they lie here and this actually is in effort band.

But then he falls into these various tricks. He has an experience, and this experience quote teaches him unquote something. And in being taught something, he is in a state whereby he will then use the experience instead of acting, and so he goes down tone scale and he starts using a light deposit… I mean, a light amount of energy to think. He wants it to flick over to that old facsimile over there that he’s got, and that’ll flick back in a certain way, and then that will square him up in some other way, and he gets it all worked out, whereby he will now be prevented from leaving a situation in one condition when it should be in another condition, and he’s figured out some kind of a method to use force on himself in order to be sure that he complies with the rules. And he made… probably made these rules to that extent and he’s complying with his own rules, or somebody else than himself, and they’re not very savage rules.

Now, let’s take a look above this. I won’t bother to put a number on it because that number is just a meaningless arbitrary, but this next line up here when I say above effort is what? And the next line up above this is what? Way up here above 40 is a thought band. Okay?

Then he’d drift downscale which is back toward present time, and uh… he’d use more and more energy with which to think. That is to say, he’d use facsimiles more and more. Instead of using just little locks and things like that to think with, now, why he uses a little heavier brand of facsimiles.

Now, those… you never… you’ve never saw those… those words on that tone scale before in that order. Because that sensation band Is actually emotion. That’s high-toned emotion, but it’s… higher-toned emotion Is sensation. Lower down it’s sort of… the emotion band is sort of an effort emotion; MESTy, very MESTy Now, this… this is. this is very airy. You are up here around space; that thought band up there is postulates. A little bit lower than that we have agreements. Now, maybe we’ve never quite looked at it this way before.

Life has not been good to him. Life hasn’t been good to him, indeed! How could life be anything to him? He is life!

Remember what I said about DEI as being a harmonic uh… uh… DEl being cycles within cycles? Well, this cycles within cycles theory is actually the same theory as harmonics, and you wanna know where harmonics come from in radio, music, piano music uh… where they come from in electronic waves of any kind, sound or anything of the sort, you look at the cycle within the cycle. There is the „grand cycle of the whole band“ and the whole change, and then there’s these intermediate cycles. DEl was a little piece of the big DEl Scale – desired and enforce and inhibit. All right.

So, he’s starting to reverse, And when he gets into present time – ‘course, present time is a consistent and continuously existing equation which this is the solution of the interdependency balance of all dynamics as represented at this instant for your future look at things.

Now, let’s go down here and find out we… now that we’ve gone to effort, let’s go to something else. And let’s get down below this, and we’ll get… and boy, we are really in here now, just below this we get emotional and uh… sensation. Up here it’s kind of enjoyable, down here you get an emotional sensation. What do you get under that? You get an effort band.

Of course, present time itself becomes something one needs. He has to have the solution of all eight dynamics at any moment in order to get himself a higher level. See? I mean, he’s already said, „Look. The eight dynamics are not myself. I couldn’t be eight dynamics. I need to be informed by eight other dynamics of some sort or another as to the existing state. Now, the first dynamic informs me very easily by pouring my own facsimiles in on me, and the second dynamic informs me with equal ease, by demonstrating to me the existence of this sensation. And the third dynamic tells me this, because uh… here are all these people, and uh… I am in agreement with them, and they’re in agreement with me.“ And so on, we go on up the line.

Now, what do you get under that effort band? You get what you’ve been calling a very high level emotion and right in that strata there you get about the highest level of reason that man’s attained. And here again we have thought. And I suppose this could be plotted out – I’m not giving you all the harmonics here by a long ways – and uh… effort, emotion. Now, let’s have thought again. All right, let’s have effort again, although it doesn’t matter. It just doesn’t matter whether we add these things on, it’s just what you… it’s just gonna be this cycle. You can take chunks of this cycle and you will accurately locate which one of the three that you’re plotting at that time or not as the case may be. But it could be all the efforts on this tone scale, and that could be effort-effort-effort-effort-effort-effort-effort. What were all these efforts? Or it could be emotion-emotion-emotion-emotion-emotion. What were all those? You’ve got a name for practically every one of ‘em; sensation high sensation, exhilaration is enthusiasm on a lower part on the band, and… and… and boredom is actually a lower harmonic of being calm, a very low harmonic, MESTy.

Now, here are all these eight dynamics then, and this is present time, MEST universe. Any given instant of interrelationship of, is present time.

And we get down here and uh… we have found again maybe these three. And then we get way down here, and we get heavy effort again.

Solution. The solution is represented in a solid, more or less, mathematical form.

Now, actually we’re… because we’ve been studying this from the viewpoint of homo sapiens, at 0.0 effort area (that’s not 0.0 effort, but uh… just in that area), effort, emotion, thought; now, we’ve gotten down here and we get a heavy brand of… oh boy, these bands really get thin; they really get awfully close together; these get packed tight right down at the bottom.

It’s as though you had an enormous electronic computer which had an enormous number of data being fed to it, almost at random, continually, and it was bringing out what the balance was at this instant. And that balance is in your hands at any instant. That’s the balance of havingness. And the more worried you are about that balance of havingness, the closer you are to it. And some people will get a thirst for it to be TERRIBLY REAL!! And they get this thirst for it to be REAL! That means: „My God! I sure have to inspect that solution. All the time. I just have to keep my feet right on that solution.“

I couldn’t draw – I’ll have to give you little sections, some sort of an idea over here under the 0.0 of the… the bands as they would get together there – there’d just be so many together the area would just be completely black, they’d be repeating themselves so often and so close together. Here Is your geometric progression at work and it starts up from way down below there and matter starts in from the top, wide, less wide, closer together and packed right on down tight.

You’ll get somebody, the poet, he is going up the street, his body is starving, he’s in terrible condition financially uh… any other condition you can think up is liable to be visited on him at any moment, and what is he doing?

A piece of matter is actually thought, effort and emotion all at one and the same time. This is a new thought to you maybe; it’ll be less of a new thought when you pick up matter sometime and you can feel what it has to think. ‘Course, it doesn’t have any think in it at all, except it’s a sort of a solidified thought. It… it… it… it just has that appeal value to it.

He is going up the street composing a poem that has to do with something he saw down the street. And the world comes along and they look at him and they say, „Look at that fellow. He’s in rags. He… he’s this way. He’s that way uh… something or other.“

For instance, this… this… ashtray… this ashtray has a prettied up thought in it. It doesn’t… it doesn’t say ‘ashtray’; it is saying ‘pretty piece of pottery’. And whoever made it and so on, this is the thought that went into it. ‘a pretty piece of pottery’. And yet it can exert an effort, can t it? If you direct it. And it can uh… do all sorts of things. Uh… and it has… it has an emotion. That’s very strange, it has an emotion something like agony. That’s very weird. It… it has an actual emotion. Well, anyhow. You think I’m kidding you. You ought to try that sometime.

He, by the way, is less perishable than the much solider citizenry.

You ought to ask a piece of matter, „Now, what emotion do you…“ Don’t go nutty on this. You ought to ask a piece of matter sometime, „What… what thought is in you? What effort are you capable of? And uh… and uh… what… what emotion do you express?“ It’ll sometimes be very startling to you what a clear-cut certainty of answer there is sitting there under your gaze.

A song can racket down the ages. It doesn’t corrode. It doesn’t have to be polished, maintained, oiled, shelved or put in a vault. It happens that a song is far more powerful than any blaster ever invented.

Because you’re dealing with a piece of MEST universe that originally came out as a thought, and a thinkingness, and a beingness, and an emotionalness and all these other things. Well, as things condense, these bands get closer and closer together, and closer and closer together and closer and closer together until all of a sudden you’ve got matter.

I wanted to write a story one time about a fellow, an alleged son of Genghis Khan, who took a… took a town with a song when the Khan had failed.

Now, it’s very amazing to pick up a cannonball, a small cannonball of some sort or another that’s lying on a battlefield; it’s still thinking the same thought, if you can call that thinking. There it is, more or less made with it. Why? Its… its present time is ALWAYS. But ALWAYS at the bottom of the scale.

The only thing you really remember about the great conquerors is a song somebody wrote about them. The thought was the poet’s.

You get very quiet when I mention this to you. But there’s… there’s a very funny thing about this. It’s… it’s… it’s a fact you see… you are putting into something the emotion which it expresses, but you are also capable of contacting the agreement which brought it into beingness. You’ll understand this a lot… a lot more; we re clarifying an awful lot of things that man has felt, and felt that he felt, and thought that he heard, and tried to pin certainties on to them. Well, there’s no use trying to put a certainty on to this stuff. It’s just funny or amusing.

And the solid citizen says, „Now look. We sweep you away. It’s so easy. We throw you in the Bastille. We do this. We do that. We do something or other with this MEST of yours. You see! You see! Now, we can do this to you. And we can do that to you. You see! You see!“ And he just doesn’t see at all.

When anything gets down from clear up here above 40.0… let’s take a… let’s take some electrons running through a line, and once upon a time somebody said „Let there be light.“ And you’ve got an electron running through the line, and your engineer comes along and he fools around with this electron going through the line. What’s it got to say about it? It’s got something to say about it. It’s still there; it’s still a piece of beingness that it once was, and it’s still banging around in the exterior universe, and here he is, and somebody else could take him and shoot him down the line – put him down a piece of copper wire one way or the other. But it’s not a him, it’s not a personality; it isn’t a thetan that’s decayed.

Voltaire writes a very polite letter to the people who threw him in the Bastille for a year because he had been waiting, and working and having an awful time trying to find the time in order to write one of his better works, and he discovered in jail the calm and peace necessary to devote this time, so he wrote them. And he was probably quite sincere about it; it didn’t worry him. They couldn’t do anything much to his MEST that put him in any very permanent state of disrepair. And he was in a condition of mind where he didn’t use very much energy to think.

Although it’s very very peculiar, you get way down small and then try to look at things of this order of magnitude, and they apparently have a sort of an aliveness to them. It’s fascinating to behold. But it’s held together by a thought basically, and that thought in impinging in various postulated spaces condenses, ‘cause this space condenses and the thought made space for the existence, and therefore you’ve got a condensation of beingness which becomes a condensation, and in this area here of the center, you’ve got a condensation of action so you have considerable activity taking place. You have enormous volatility of elements. The volatility of elements regardless of temperature or anything of the sort would take place along that 20 level.

And a fellow does quote good thinking or quote good solutions about to the rate that he doesn’t use any energy in the line. Just about in that ratio.

And then you’ve got harder and solider and solider and solider and you’ve got energy. And you get a preclear in apathy, but you can get a preclear in apathy that’s actually gleeful, and that’s ‘the glee of insanity’. He’s in apathy about doing anything; he’s really just practically right there on the verge of tears any minute, and what’s he do? He cackles and screams with laughter over something. So you’ve just got that down further and further and further and all of a sudden from this effort called apathy we’re down lower on the band, lower on the band, lower on the band, you’ll get some PC and you can put your foot against him; woo… you could actually almost put your MEST hand against the man’s ridges and give him a shove when he walks in the door. You almost can do that; I mean he’s that far out, and he’s that hard and that solid.

The best solution is simply a postulate. What is a better solution on the whole problem of light than to be able to say, „Let there be light.“ And there’s light. No real reason why there had to be light, by the way. That would make a solution necessary.

Well, you get way down, you compress it too tight, you’ve got plutonium, you get boom’. A new thought. Now, you could put it on a circular pattern and say, „From that came all new thought.“ Nope, it’s just under too much stress, because, boy, there is nothing that makes MEST like plutonium. It makes more MEST into enMEST in less time than any other known element.

Why people ask about „Why?“ all the time, and demand that we have a reason for everything is a very simple thing, you see. They’ve got to have a reason because they’ve got to have the solution because the penalty is so great and there is present time, and they’re holding grimly onto present time.

Well, so we’ve got these bands tight packed down together here.

Well, as they drift back to present time they’re all right. They’re at least standing around saying, „What’s a solution? What’s a solution? What’s a solution? What’s a solution? What’s a solution? I don’t see it very well. I wish I could see it better. I wish I could see it much better, but I can’t see it very much better. But if I could just see it a little bit better…“

Now, when you speak of ‘counter-effort’, do you mean a bust in the jaw? There’s counter-effort, a bust in the jaw. It’s down in this band here someplace. That’s invalidation by force. Or do you mean this: highly measured, terrifically competent, enormously controlled and regulated delivery of force as an impact. That’s still invalidation. Boy, there’s nothing like an invalidation which is done with force and extreme competence. Your fellows get out there on the football field and that sort of thing, when they’ve been beaten by a team that is enormously skilled, oh, do they feel silly. Why it’s invalidation, measured in force, but it isn’t in terms of „Well, we’ve gotten down to a point where we’ve all run out of ideas, we’ll mash each other’s bodies up.“ That’s irrational; it’s still a game up here.

Or, „I am really bored with it, I – uh… ‘course I need the solution all the time, but I don’t quite know what to do with it. Let’s see, how solid’s the lamp post? How solid’s the sidewalk? How solid are the walls? How solid are the…? Am I going to eat tonight? Well, yes, I am going to eat tonight. I eat tonight. I’ll have to eat uh… I’ll get to eat that. To eat, that’s present time. That will keep me going in that… in the… that… that is right.“

All right, let’s take what’s… what’s a sensation, emotion here? That’s very, very high-toned stuff for homo-sapiens to be… exhilaration and so on.

Havingness. Havingness. Havingness. Havingness. Not-havingness. Not-havingness. Agree-agree, disagree, want, not-want, not-need, need… wirrrrrwwww. It all goes on the monitor of how much he needs, isn’t it?

Now, let’s look down here at effort on that band. Well that would be a light feather-touch as far as that’s concerned, but it would again be terrifically competent, very competent. And as a man goes down tone scale he begins to do things like regret his own competence, because it delivers too many overt acts; it hurts, then, to be competent, so he goes on down the line.

I told a producer one time that my leisure time was worth seven-hundred dollars a week, and he fainted. He almost literally did faint. Any salary drawn would have to be in excess of that, because that was the price of leisure. He couldn’t figure this out. Maybe you can’t, but it makes good sense to me. It makes very good sense to me.

So, we get into this band down here: emotion. Well, that’s probably the emotion that most… emotional band, that most people use… listen to the theater. Why, most people that… when they get really high toned, they probably would get up that high on sensation. Maybe that is as high as sex goes; this… this… this band here that’s just a second emotional band above zero. Oh, way down here at the bottom of course where they’ve got that black line, all those things are more or less packed together, no differentiation, all identification; thought, emotion and effort all become the same thing.

There’s no use working at all, I figured, on a job that one didn’t have much of his heart in. It was better to have nothing to do. Up to seven-hundred dollars a week, and that was the level of havingness which would make it interesting!

Well, what’s criticism? Of course, if a fellow is fencing, and he crosses foils with an expert and that expert just undoes the buckles of his mask or something of the sort, with the… the button, meanwhile while his opponent… I mean, while this fellow is fencing like mad trying to hold off the expert and the expert simply unbuckles his… his mask and takes it off and starts to unravel his fencing sweater. It would sound to me like that’d be a little critical, wouldn’t it?

Now, you can actually plot pay that way. You can simply ask yourself, „All right. Let’s see now, I wonder what uh… how long… this… I’m… I’m interested in this preclear. Therefore, I’ll do this preclear for nothing.“ Or, „I’m interested in having a few things.“ Or, „I’m interested in buying a few things so I won’t have to have some other things as solutions. And therefore I’ll have this preclear for three hours and I don’t want the preclear for three hours, so therefore I’ll have to bring it up to a level which makes it interesting to me to have the preclear for three hours.“

So we get down here, it’d be any… any level of that is, you could say, it’s a criticism. Well, invalidation we think is uh… to ignore but to meet with force could also be invalidation. So it’d be two kinds of invalidations. ‘Validation’ would be the positive thing. There’s always a third little thing lurking around in any of this material, and this is called the ‘null point’. You’ll see it on the cycle of action; you’re always running into the null. The cycle of action has at its exact center CONSERVATION; START, INCREASE, NO CHANGE, DECREASE, STOPPED. That really is the cycle of action. There’s a complete maybe right in the middle of the cycle of action. You see why that would be? It would be the null point between increase and decrease. It would be the null point between growing and decaying; there is a plateau in there where something hits. Why is it a plateau? It’s an effort to maintain the state, and of course that requires a maybe. The way you maintain the state is to have a maybe, and if you get somebody wanting to really act slow just throw a maybe into his computer and he’ll maintain the state all right. You can get almost anybody stopped if you completely balance his computer, you get no action, and you get an apparent… a stop which… which is called CONSERVATION.

Don’t omit that. Don’t ever consign yourself to a drudgery. Because, when the interest isn’t there, it’s just drudgery. There isn’t any reason why you have to do anything. Brim it out.

„We want these woods for a long time; therefore, they are not to be destroyed. Therefore, we’re very careful and we let nothing decay in ‘em, and we re careful of what we let grow in ‘em.“ And so we monitor those two things and we get the center of the band, the MAYBE between GROWTH, and DECAY which is CONVERSATION and we’ll have the woods for a long time. That’s NULL, no action.

Now, the energy used to think by the psychotic is of course no personally manufactured energy at all. It’s just glue of energy once used. And he’s just got it all pulled in on him like mad, and of course he obeys only the commands in it, only the commands in it, only the commands in it, only the commands in it, only the commands in it.

That’s why 20.00 as calling 20 an action band is wrong and has been consistently wrong, uh… but it hasn’t been wrong so much as just careless. Actually, the action bands uh… come up to their heaviest competence down around 10 and 30, but why s… why strain everybody. One around 10 is fast action in terms of decay, and the one up around 30 is fast action in terms of growth and increase. Well, let’s call it all an action band. You see, we can call this that because we have our internal cycle of the grand cycle. It’s all right. We needn’t put… you’d think it was awfully funny if I kept putting into the middle of it CONSERVE.

It says, „Not do.“ It says, „Do.“ He does, he does not. That’s all there is to it. Energy potentials.

Here we have thought, and we have start, and at the end we have stop, and in the middle of it we put CONSERVE. It… it would be… it would be foisting off on you the… the impression that there wasn’t anything we could do about it, and START and STOP and CONSERVE are all STOP. They really are, they’re all STOP. One comes from STOP. You have to go from STOP to get a START. And… and so one has to go to STOP to get a stop, and in order to CONSERVE he merely balances and that STOPs.

Now, let’s look at that, then, and lets find out that uh… you’re going up toward no-energy to think, when you’re going up to postulates. When you are going up to Postulate Processing, when you say „Postulate Processing“, you’re processing somebody toward future.

If you get the idea of a fulcrum sitting up here and in the middle it’d be just carefully balanced like that, and we tipped it – over she’d go. But that can be tipped. The stop at the end and the start at the end, once you start that thing, boy, it’s HELL to stop.

Well, you… of course, you don’t think in the future. If you’re in relationship to the solution, which is present time, you say, „Now, let’s see. Uh… let me think uh… I don’t know whether my car will be outside or not, or whether or not I can possibly drive or not drive in some other direction, but if I go down to some other direction and do something or other, then so on. But if I did that, why…“ That’s just stream of consciousness, for a lack of energy to think.

Do this test on a preclear someday; get him to get the idea of starting something, some preclear that doesn’t have three-dimensional vision; try it now, somebody who isn’t satisfied with the three-dimensionalism of his vision.

„Tonight I shall dine at the uh… Russian Pentagon Building,“ or something. You just say that. You see, make a postulate.

Get a picture and get the idea of trying to start it. Now try to change it. Now, let’s stop it.

Now, if you’re hot enough on this line, it will come true inevitably, because ten minutes before you eat, you’ll make it; it will appear. You get the idea? There… therefore you go up on Postulate Processing and making your own universe, you’re completely independent of present time solution – present time solution.

If you do that, occasionally you… you’ll notice something… a manifestation. What manifestation do you notice? Did anybody get that… you… you work… you work that every once in a while you’d see something happening there. Did you get anything on that? You didn’t really try to start something?

Don’t… let anybody kid you, that your interest in existence is dependent upon the present time solution, because it’s not.

Voice: I had to push it to start it.

Most of the things a person is clinging to in the present time solution are not important, because the present time solution has a habit of being very, very badly upset and erronified.

LRH: Hum?

You see. The Russians are about to attack you at any minute. The United States is about to attack you at any minute. Um… the amount of bank banditry in uh… Little Keokuk uh… on the 2nd of January has averaged out to the figure of.7623. You’re don’t… don’t even have any money in the bank. What are you interested in a bank account for? Eight robbers were shot today on Rop-Rop Avenue. So what! You weren’t on Rop-Rop Avenue!

Voice: I had to push it to start it.

But you take that in as assessment of the situation: are we going to have more robbers or less robbers? it looks like we’re going to have more robbers, but the cops said there’d be less robbers, therefore the cops were… It was a good thing the cops were there.

LRH: Oh, you have to push it to start it. We’re already into the effort band.

Oh, is it? In other words, present time solution! Present time solution!

Well, let’s get a look at something you started once. It’ll make it a little more real to you. Get a look at something you started, and no… notice the dimensions in it. You know? Get the visio on something you started and notice the dimensions in it. How were the dimensions in that visio?… You re operating from space down when you do that. What… what dimension? Did anybody get any d… dimensions in the… in that visio of starting?

What are you interested in? Well, about the level when a person has sunk to the point where they’re only interested in the present time solutions, they’re not interested, they’re frantic. They’re getting to a point where interest is being displaced by fear of penalty, and this all comes about because they use energy with which to think! And that’s… that’s all there is to it.

Voice: Get depth.

And if you were to process this, just… just process this on a pc it’d straighten him out and he’d feel quite a bit better.

LRH: You have got a depth? That’s all we are looking for.

Most pc’s have energy deposits around with which their energy to think is deposited. And where is that? Is that in the future? No, that’s not in the future. There isn’t any energy in the future. Is that in the past? No, that’s not in the past. There isn’t any energy in the past.

Voice: Three-dimensions in mine.

Well, where is it, then? Well, I will tell you where it is then. It is in present time. And it has a little sign on it and it says, „This is the future.“

LRH: You got three-dimensions?

Now, the person who can’t get it is resisting the future. He’s trying to pull out of the future and he’s got a reverse vector going. He’s more concentrated upon not having the future than he is upon having the future. And if you want him to get to this deposit, simply ask him… ask him uh… „Let’s… let’s try not to have the future. Let’s try to avoid seeing this deposit,“ and so forth. And you’ll get him back and forth.

Voice: Yeah.

Now you can always trick your mind… your energy levels in this wise. You can always trick them very satisfactorily by saying, „All right. Now, let’s try not to make it green.“

LRH: That’s correct. Well, that’s all right. Now look at a time when you stopped something.

You’ve been trying to make this green, trying to make this green. It’s impossible for you to make the green.

Voice: It flattens down.

You say, „Try not to make it green in order to make it green.“

LRH: Yeah.

You say, „All right. We’ll try not to make it green.“ It’s green – bang!

Voice: Yeah.

„All right. Let’s try not to see it. You wanna see it. You know you wanna see it, so you just say, „Try not to see it,“ and bong! It’ll turn up.

LRH: Well! Of course start is up at 40.0, and that’s space, and you’ve been in that cycle of action? Why it goes that way? We’re not dealing with anything strange or peculiar.

Because that’s the not-have and the have. You can do those both ways. You can just say, „All right. We won’t uh… we’ll pretend not to do that. Okay, that’s good. We’ve got it now.“ And we can go right on. And it’s a method of handling things.

Uh… all right, now these flows go as directed up here – these are as directed, and these flows down here tend to go opposite to as-directed. They go opposite below 20.0 and that’s why we keep using this 20.0 as it is the NULL point between plus and minus. This is positive. The fellow makes a postulate anywhere in that area you get it carried out. And this is minus. The chances of him getting something carried out on a postulate in this area are… just reverse below 20.0.

But that only goes a very short distance before the person just simply discards it as a crutch. But if you were to ask somebody, „Let’s take a look at your future.“

The fellow says, „Now, I am going to grow up and be a good buy.“ And so he winds up as a gangster. And he never quite figures out why this is.

The fellow will say, „What do you mean?“

One starts in saying, „Now, I am going to give up smoking.“ Oh, boy, how can he give up smoking, if he says he’s going to give up smoking. It’s obvious, the fellow’s a homo sapiens, isn’t he? Well, how can he ever be on a positive line? It’d be impossible for him to be.

„Well, do you have a little… anything around there when you think of the future, you… you see this, or change this or try to make it green or black or white or something of the sort. Do you see anything like it? Do you have anything like it?“

So the best way in the world for this individual to go on smoking and practically ruin himself is to try to give up smoking. I think the cigarette companies have found this out empirically and actually go around trying to coax people to give up smoking.

„No. No.“

If you had the thought „Now, I’ve got to smoke“ and would just consistently and continually tell yourself that you had to smoke and make yourself smoke and buy several brands of cigarettes and every time you found a cigarette was not in your hand be sure and put one in your hand and just make yourself have a cigarette, you’ve started to operate from way up on the band. Well, because you know, and you can operate from knowingness and you can handle flows if you know what they consist of. You don’t have to be completely supine just because they exist.

„Well, let’s try to avoid having any future. Just get the thought of avoiding any future. Now, what do you see?“

As I say, you… you… the fellow out… he knows, he’s running on a reversal on colors, so he says to himself, „Well, all right. Now let’s see, I couldn’t get it when I said ‘Try to get green.’ Let’s see how… now I’ll try not to get green and I’ll get green. That’s right.“ And he does and he looks at the pretty green, and he says, „Well, I guess I can handle that.“

„Well, what do you know,“ he says. „There is one. Yah. Yah. Yah.“ Well, he’s trying not to have anything there in the future. There are things which he’d hate to have happen and he is trying to avoid them happening.

Flows are the big trick and they clip right out; I mean very fast, it doesn’t take long at all for a flow to get knocked off.

And of course, a person who is way, way, way up tone scale wouldn’t have any such deposit at all. But he wouldn’t be in a body, either.

So this goes on the LONG run opposite as directed. Here’s where you get, down here, more than up there; you get the… up there too. Here you act on the upper part of the band… you act to bring about a good result, and what do you get? You get the lower part of the band. What a trick.

So the mechanism in it is that anybody who can be influenced by the flows is a give, at which time you would say, „Try to avoid the deposit which is the future. Try to avoid the deposit which is the present in thought energy. Try to avoid the deposit which is the past in terms of thought energy.“ And they’ll light up like Christmas trees.

Because what starts up in the upper part of the band will finish off a cycle of action, and that goes into the lower part of the band, and then of course that goes into the opposite polarities and flows.

And a person who is a TAKE, at „Let’s have it“. Whatever part of the cycle they’re on, let’s just have the… let’s ha… just have the future, let’s not have the future, and you’ve got it.

Decay is everything going the wrong way when it should go the right way. And don’t ever forget that from 20 down to 0.0 that is decay. That is on the way out. It… if you had to go up… straight up the MEST universe line, following the agreements of the MEST universe 100 per cent and not paralleling them with your own universe line, oh boy, would you ever dig out of this pile? I am afraid not! Why, it’s just… just… it’s just too… too booby trapped with this opposite flow deal. You say, „I wanna be clear,“ so you’ll knock off being audited. It’s just as silly as that.

And what do you do with this? Well, then you turn it green, you turn it pink and you turn it yellow, and you… anything he can do just keep him handling it as energy in present time which has future labels on it, and the thing’ll blow up. All of a sudden he will experience an enormous feeling of relief.

Well, when we look at this, we see that counter-emotion, counter-effort gets more oppositer and gets more and more negative the lower we go on it.

Why? Is this energy the future? No, it’s not the future. It is a deposit that is labelled ‘future’ and the deposit exists in present time.

Until we get up here, boy, is this up here… in… where we’ve got this line, is that positive, man that’s really positive. And down here, brother, is that really negative.

Is this energy the present that he’s looking at? No, it’s not. It happens to be just a deposit which he calls ‘present time’ and is in present time.

Up above the level of 40.0 when you say „Spit“ they spit, believe me. And down below the level of 40.0 when you say „Spit“, boy, they don’t spit, believe me. It’s a fact.

And is this energy the past? Yep. It’s facsimiles being carted along because he is existing in a dependent state upon his facsimiles. ‘Cause he knows he has to have experience. He goes down to get a job so that he could feed the body.

So you go around and you tell somebody, „Okay, Scientology,“ you say, „is very fine and we’ve been working on this and we really are trying to do something about it, maybe we can do something for your back.“

He has to put the body at a desk so that the body can then be paid, and then the body can eat, so that it could be put at a desk, of course. And uh… nice and circular ambition, you see? So, he goes through this whole situation and when he gets through with it, he knows very well that he has a body, and uh… he’s very definitely dependent on flows, isn’t he?

And they say, „Ha! Ha! Well! Nothing can be done for my back, of course.

Well, the… the dependence… his dependency upon flows is… is… his utter dependency on experience is a dependency on flows.

You could practically have to take over ownership as you would a piece of MEST before you can do anything about it.

The fellow who says, „Well, let’s see. Experience is very important, terribly important,“ ought to modify it this way: „Experience is terribly important to people in a body who are thinking in terms of flows. Then good experience becomes extremely important, because when they put out energy in the direction of their flows, then good experience will come back in and they will do the right thing. And we have a good puppet and an excellent marionette, and this is therefore what we want.“

You get preclears down at the bottom of that scale, you practically have to slide in behind the wheel to get ‘em rolling. They’re like an automobile. They don’t even have self-starters, sometimes you have to get out and crank. But the point is that there you have your layout of… why you try to sell something, it is just fabulous that advertising works! Just FABULOUS that it works. But why does it work? Did you ever ask yourself that: „Why does advertising work?“ It’s just one thing in the advertising sign that works; you could put in a big dissertation, you could say, „Buick cars are mounted on a… on a something or other, and uh… Jaguars uh… have so much pounds per horsepower and they’re made out of so on, and differentials, and they drive at such-and-such a speed. And they do this and they do that and so on, and you could have this nice little dissertation… on print. Nobody’d give a damn whether they owned one or not. But if you put a picture of one that’s an aesthetic, and the higher you go and the tinier you get on the wave length, the less oppositeness of reaction you get. So aesthetic show a tendency to come out in the pure rather than in the negative, and they have much less negative response contact than positive. So if you do something very aesthetically you’re more liable to get some sort of an agreement on the thing.

So, the fellow who gets this job to put the body at a desk so the body can be paid, so that the body can eat, so that he could put it at the desk, so that it could be paid, so that he can eat – is always asked this question: „How much experience do you have? Is it good experience or bad experience? Or is it some other kind of experience? Well, experience – experience…“

If people in this field were all to dress up in white gowns with purple sandals and we had a great big monastery sitting on top of a hill someplace and olive groves and all that sort of thing everybody’d go and they’d say, „That’s… that’s where Scientology is. That’s right,“ and so on. It’d just be fine. „Well, that is one of those Scientologists now. Look at their gowns and so on.“ „Now, don’t get too close to him, he is liable to put a curse on you.’ And uh… that’s right; that’s the way it’d roll; but there’s the aesthetic.

They don’t realize that at… somewhere in the career of everybody, you get a reversing vector. You get this fellow with wonderful references, just rave notices – he leaves with the boss’s wife and all the dough in the cash drawer.

As a matter of fact, it’s well within your choice to know about that.

If this fellow has been exceptionally good, and exceptionally honest, that is the best reason in the world to believe that sooner or later this guy is going to be the foulest crook that ever lived!

As opposed to the aesthetic… as opposed to the aesthetic is another answer, and that’s to use the effort band. „Oh, uh… you uh… you don’t like Scientology, huh?“ Pow!

And it’s… it’s not monitored, then, by experience. What they’re searching for in all these factors is just this one thing, is: how much energy is this person using with which to think? Now if you can establish how much energy he uses to think, you’ll establish how important it is for him to have experience. Because if he doesn’t use any energy to think at all, it’s not even vaguely important for him to have experience, but boy, would he be valuable in an airplane plant.

But have you got any reason in this lower band here? You know, there are probably not more… there are probably not more than 30,000 people at that in the United States who could probably eat this stuff up. Are you aware of that fact? That’s very strange for me to say that. Go ahead and feel lonesome. You haven’t taken a good look in a long time… taken a look at your immediate circle of friends, something like that.

He has no experience whatsoever. He goes around to the airplane plant, and he says, „Hey uh…“ Uh… you say… why, the… that boy could draw down much more than any president of any corporation in the United States in terms of MEST, but the trouble is, nobody’d ever be able to pay him unless he was interested. The only pay would be interest.

The truth of the matter is… the truth is that the intellectuals of the entire world, by a survey which was rather competently done, by the way, are sort of plotted in a pyramid of what are the IQ’s of people on earth? This poor guy who gets out of college and decides he has to work hard to succeed, what a boob! He doesn’t have to work at all to succeed. There’s just nothing to it. He can talk, can’t he? I mean, he can say, „Please pass the butter,“ can’t he? He can… he knows how to wear a tie and a coat, doesn’t he? He’s set. He’s the upper crust. He is! That’s no kidding.

He would go around. Why? Because after the plant had manufactured the airplane and had it all beautifully manufactured and everything else, they wanted to know whether or not this plane would fly, this fellow could simply take a look at the airplane and say, „Yeah, it’ll fly.“ „No, that one won’t fly.“ „Uh, that one’s got something wrong with its motor. It’s the lower side of its motor won’t function. Uh… there were two mechanics had a fight out on the right wing tip, and there is a strut cracked out there or a strut will crack out there, and you had better replace that.“ You would practically have uncrackable airplanes. Why?

He’s… regardless of what state he’s supposed to be in, a survey of all of this demonstrated that at any one time on earth there were not more than about 10,000 people of a caliber that was sufficient to do a little steering or leading. And that wasn’t a very high IQ; and it doesn’t flatter you very much. It isn’t up there around Army Alpha 212, as you’d think it is; not at all. There is only about 10,000 of them really.

Well, he could just simply pervade through the airplane and he’d sort of feel around in the airplane, and… and… and he’d know what the future of the airplane was. And if it didn’t have a good future, if your fellow was really good, why, if it didn’t have a good future at all, he would merely say, „You will have a good future now, airplane.“ It sounds crazy. But you’re actually moving out from simply causation in the future to causing future.

And below that level you have something in the neighborhood of about 100,000 or 150,000, 200,000 people who have a competence of assimilation. That’s about all.

And you still have a ghost of this in witch’s curses and earth still remembers these things. No matter how dimly they might be, they s… they still recall ‘em. Curses and damnations and good gifts and, „You may now have three wishes,“ the fairy says. Sure, he can give away three wishes, any fairy can give away three wishes. So could you. But I’d think before you give away three wishes, I think you’d better be able to give yourself three wishes, and I think that would be a good thing, and it isn’t necessary for you to sit down and wish hard. It isn’t how hard one wishes that counts, as they teach a child. It’s how lightly one wishes, and how interested he is in having that for which he wished. So, you see what our three wishes would amount to in terms of… in terms of postulates.

You can count then on those people directing others or leading them. And if you’re very experienced on it and you really did a good job, it’s sort of like… I don’t know… like patting kids on the head. I’m not being patronizing. I mean that’s the successful attitude when it comes to those people. And we get the share of those in the United States, and we carve that down, we find out a handful, just a handful of people in the United States supported by another triple handful of people in the United States out of 150 millions.

Well, look at no-energy up there on the track and you’ll find this fellow’d be very light-hearted and very serene and he could be quite intense if he were interested – if he were interested.

And if you have a savage enough truth, or a beautiful enough truth, they can go through, but don’t ever try to get a reasonable enough truth, because you won’t ever talk to reason.

But you can be as intense with an upper band as you can a lower band wave. You can use very light energy to accomplish ENORMOUS things. It’s only with a very heavy energy that you can’t accomplish a doggone thing.

If, perhaps, you talked to people, demonstrated to them, worked with them very hard and showed them very hard over a long period of time, quite convincing and demonstrated a lot to them, you would appeal to them on a level of reason. But my God, do you know what you would have done if you did that? What you would have done is something very interesting; by education you would’ve kicked ‘em upscale. The weapon was in your own hands at the time you were talking. By that, I mean you’ve got a reasonability.

Just… just try and accomplish anything by telling somebody what to do, forcefully. You do that often enough and customarily enough, and you eventually won’t get anything done.

Now, let’s… let’s… let’s not be snide or put this into the category of „we’re all so smart and they’re all so dumb.“ I’m telling you something that’s very nakedly true; that has a workability as I have worked it out.

Be a much happier thing to be at the stage of the tone scale, where you simply knew they would do it.

We have when we get down to this business… If you’re trying to tell people on the standpoint of reason… A Critique of Pure Reason would be a critique of the minus sign down here on this chart, you’ve got a negative flow. So, when you try to tell people, „Look, we know something; it’ll make you a lot happier and better, and you can climb out of this mess.“ You’re just a handful. Most of you’ve been pitching in this league for a couple of years. Strange, isn’t it? It’s strange you re not an auditorium full. You’ll never be a auditorium full. There aren’t that many. That’s all there is to it – there just aren’t.’

Did you ever go around and say to somebody, „Well, we know that you’ll do that,“ and so on, and just leave them stuck with that? You’ve actually laid a postulate on top of ‘em.

You could go out and have vases fly off the immediate part of the stage and ‘pow’ them for people. You can also dress up Annie Oakley in a beautiful white hat with a beautiful cowboy skirt and have her stand in the saddle and ride around the arena and do the same thing with a shotgun and get the same crowd. You think I’m kidding you? Well, it’s the same line.

Well, a little bit higher than that is, you just KNOW all of a sudden. You just have a conviction in energy terms. You just know the waitress is going to walk to the other side of the dining room. She does.

So therefore you have two levels of appeal which are quite direct and quite direct indeed is you just go ahead and you work; you don’t try to tell anybody anything beyond perhaps you intimate to them once in a while that you might be able to do something for them. But you could intimate that for God sakes on a… on an aesthetic, an aesthetic or a completely false sympathy line. „Oh, you poor fellow.“ He… he won’t miss the irony. I mean, he… he won’t hit it. He doesn’t know, You just… you just assign all knowingness to everybody around you and you’ll get in trouble, because they’re not all knowing. You go down… you’re not gonna put this postulate into the line, you are not going to say uh…, „Well, you uh… here you are uh… you know all about this, and you know that sympathy could kill a man without half trying.“ Oh, no! He wouldn’t believe it!

You kind of know here and know there and you know this and you know that, and nothing happens.

„Yeah, I’ve seen these sympathetic guys,“ he’d say and so on, and uh… „Yeah,“ and so on and so on. „And, but you know, I do get awfully tired,“ he’ll say. „Gimme. Gimme. Gimme some more… gimme some more cohesiveness of matter so that I can solidify further and go down a little bit further on the tone scale.“ He will.

You can’t get down and pitch with flows very long before you come down below that level again. Energy flows are very dangerous to use. Even communication flows basically trap you in and you have to bail yourself out.

And you just sit there and you’d say, „You poor fellow. Yes, I’m… I’m sure of that.“

I’m always having to sit down and run out… and pull myself uptrack one way or the other. But, of course, I’ve never used any energy with which to think. And the only reason I’m telling you about this, I’m telling you about this is almost… it’s all extrapolated, but it’s almost a new discovery, although I’ve been kidding about it for two-and-a-half years.

And that tells you that way up there at the top of the tone scale, the first pretense is that it’s not all pretense, and that’s the first thing a fellow learns! The first pretense is to pretend that it’s not all pretense.

I just put a few attention units down in the GE to find out if the GE could think, and I found the GE thinking. He was thinking. I thought that was wonderful. I thought it was so cute.

A guy starts selling himself then and selling himself and selling himself. You cannot have a… a game unless you pretend there’s a game! And then if you say, „The game is serious,“ and „The game is all,“ and „We’re not pretending anymore, and therefore this is not a game,“ oh, boy, how grim can we get?

But if any of this stuff had to be THOUGHT about lengthily and so forth, nothing would have happened. The only place where it had to be thought about is: compare it. You compare one flow to another flow, you’d have to kind of mock up a couple of flows and hook them together, and uh… you think about this, and think about that. That’s what’s known as ‘inductive thought’. But you’re not operating, and you can’t operate in order to investigate something; you can’t operate from the basis of postulating to make it so, ‘cause then you can’t investigate it. You see how silly that would be. That… that’s just gruesome. How could you investigate anything if you were postulating all the time?

Now, you say, „We have to be absolutely truthful and sincere; and SINCERITY is the main thing, and TRUTHFULNESS is the main thing, and don’t lie to anybody, and never daa… and you’ll get ahead.“ You… brother, you sure will. You’ll get ahead right on that cycle of action right towards zero.

In other words, it’d be impossible to find out anything by carrying on investigation which is car… occasionally called ‘scientific’. See?

Did you notice one day, I think it was – where is he? Yeah, there he is. Yeah, he told me up here on the stand, he couldn’t tell me a lie! Well, that isn’t because of me; it’s just because he’s got to believe that… that the MEST universe is that way. Now, you’ll find pcs are like this. It’s a TRAP not being able to prevaricate. You don’t have to have a reason to prevaricate. It’s when people have to have a reason to prevaricate that it becomes lying. Before that time it’s just ornamentin’.

You postulate what the conclusion will be. You’ll find scientists, by the way, are hipped on this. They’ve still have got an aberration on the subject. They’re afraid to think what the conclusion will be for fear the conclusion will be that, and they will then be swayed by the conclusion. And here these fellows with one-sixteenth of one grasshopper-power brain cell left with which to postulate… t… they could make a postulate at a ping pong ball and the ping pong ball would stay right there. It wouldn’t go any place. And yet these fellows are very careful not to make a conclusion before they finish their experiment. They’re getting away from a fear which has now become impossible.

You say, „You know, I was downtown the other day, and I… there’s this yellow taxi there, and I started to step into this yellow taxi and I’ll be a son of a gun if there wasn’t a big ape sitting in the back with the smuggest grin. I closed the door and walked on down the street.“ This makes life more colorful.

There’s nothing wrong whatsoever with saying, „Well, the way this thing is going to work out is this way,“ and then mixing up the MEST universe ingredients this way and that way and finding out it works some other way.

You would be surprised what it would do for you if you suddenly threw one of those in every once in a while. The finest way in the world people can put you up tone scale is to find out that you’re lying. Yeah, you go around being afraid you’ll be found out you are lying.

You say, „Well, it didn’t work that way.“

Uh… I made a preclear one day. I just gave him one process only; every once in a while I’ll hand out a process to some other preclear that I don’t want to process very long, I just give him a couple of straightwire questions, I have only got maybe two minutes, and I say, „Now, look. You say – what’s your trouble? Oh, well, now look. I want you to go out and tell somebody a lie so they will find out that you are lying… that you were lying. And then do that several times and uh… tell it in such a way that they can discover you’re lying.“

„All right. We’ll postulate that this is going to work this way, and then we’re going to mix all these things up together and they’ll work some other way.“

And this guy says, „Oh, no.“

And you would say, „Ah, to hell with that.“

I said, Well, go ahead, do that.“

Uh… that would be sensible, because sooner or later you would come either to an apathy about the whole thing and skip it, or you’d find something which, when mixed up that way would accomplish the result which you postulated. Well, you’ve given cause to the MEST universe, that’s what would happen.

„I’ll do it if you say so.“

All right, now let’s look at the preclear in terms of energy and he has decided he is an effect of everything. And I was thinking about this Egyptian cult that… white was cause and black was effect. And if you were half black and half white, you were all right because then you were half cause and half effect and you were the effect of your own cause if you were that, and if you looked at the future and found the future black, the future would be an effect. But, if you looked at the future and found the future white, then the future would be cause. But, that was better to have the future cause than to have the future effect. So, what you tried to get was look and see a WHITE FUTURE. How do you like that one? You had to look and see a white future. And if you saw a black future that was bad, and you should abandon that course of action immediately, if you saw a black future.

Okay, now we’re all set, and he went out and he did it and it cracked his case of course. He was so afraid people would find out the truth, that is to say that he was lying, that he wouldn’t lie, and so he had to assign everything as truth and he was having a really rough time with the whole deal. All he had to do was tell someone a lie so that they’d find it out, and then of course, what did he expect would happen? He… the will… walls would sort of start to creak you see, and he could brace himself because this person was bound to do what? Criticize him. Criticizing, when they do criticism artistically, they do it with a club. So he’s afraid of being hurt! Afraid of having his space collapsed around him, and afraid of becoming matter. And therefore he’s afraid of criticism because he has it identified with force! Which it is! Criticism is the shadow of force! And it… the threat of force. „Well, I want to criticize you because I wouldn’t want you to get into a lot of trouble doing something or other. And I don’t mean to be critical of your driving, but if someday…“ They act like they’re trying to prevent you from being hurt all the time, or being upset, or losing heavily, and that’s the reason for criticism, isn’t it? Only, what they’re really doing is they don’t for a moment suppose that they are really helping you. They really don’t suppose this. They’re just indulging themselves one way or the other, a little pretense going on. The next thing you know why they’ve got you practically destroyed. If you’re afraid of being hurt physically, you’ll be afraid of being criticized.

What the devil are they monitoring? Well, the funny part of it is, it has a workability. They’ve just aligned all the facsimiles which gave the experience of badness, up, and then hooked ‘em up to a circuit which has a flashboard on it, and that flashboard says ‘Black!’ That means, „These thoughts are passing through bad experience, don’t monkey with it.“ And a white flashboard which simply says, „These thoughts are passing through good experience and so the chances of them taking place are very good.“

The fellow goes out and he tells somebody. He says, „Well, I uh… just saw your wife uh… I just saw your wife outside the door… hm…“ And the guy rushes down to find out what his wife’s doing there; he comes back and the whole project was a failure because the fellow figured it was a practical joke and they’re allowable. And this fellow had to really get down and figure quite a bit to find out finally how to tell a lie so that he would be found out. And it occupied his mind so much, he didn’t have any time to think about his neurosis or anything, and he finally made the grade – he finally made the grade. He called up and said that a bill had been paid, and of course that could be found out. And he said it very straight facedly and he kept insisting from there on the bill had been paid. And he insisted that the check was there and it had arrived, that he had the receipt, and he just went on with a complete show about the bill being paid fully expecting any moment to go mad himself and discover that he didn’t know whether it had been paid or not! And what do you know, his level of certainty on the fact he was lying got better and better and better, and he began to enjoy it and so forth, so he started calling up all sorts of people and telling them he had paid them. And his credit got much better! Anybody’d loan him money.

It’s not very reliable, because it depends on an automaticity of flashboards. But if you want to do intuitive or instantaneous thinking with flows, that’s the way they’re rigged. You see the future is black, or you see the future is white, recognize, for the love of Pete, in yourself or your preclear, if you’re not seeing the future and you still know you are affected by flows, you’re just trying to avoid that sight or perception in some fashion.

If you want to get a horrible reputation and get killed, you just go around sincerely and honestly helping people. If you want to know who’s helping people in this world go around and find out who’s just on the verge of being killed. You ought to look it over. It’s fascinating! This of course reverse vector.

All right, let’s look this over then, and we’ve… possibly this is one of the ingredients of occlusion. They made implants in people about this at one time or another, by the way. And uh… you just turn… you don’t run an implant, you just turn the future white, and you turn the future black, and you turn the future purple and then you put some red crosses on it, and then you turn Saturday green. And then you turn these other things this way, and then shift them this way and that way, and then put the future behind your head. And let’s see if you can find the present – what the sum of energy is of the deposit called the present. And that isn’t out here, that’s just right in front of your face, practically, or maybe it’s your body. Uh… anyway, you turn the present white, and then turn it green, and then turn it purple and turn it yellow. And you’d probably be able to park it some place or another by finding another present and postulating it there. Who knows?

Well, all of this adds up to the fact that if you go around asking a society for a license to survive, and you keep on telling them „Now, look, you’re so-and-so and so-and-so, and we’ve got a whole track. And you’ve really lived before and we’re really’d be amazed about the whole thing and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on yowl-yowl-yowl-yowl-yowl-yawl.“ Oh no, not under any circumstances, please, please, please for my sake don’t do that.

And uh… the… the past, as I say again, would be a very heavy deposit, because that’s all composed of facsimiles.

I… I have tried to do what I could in this subject and… and tried to square it around. I am actually working from a fairly high level on… on the operational end, I expect to see it go right but I want to see it applied. Ap… applied here to homo sapiens pretty well ‘cause I… I know he can be dug out, but you can’t dig him out on a cross flow. No sir.’ ‘Cause every time you pull him up, he’s going to go down. He’s… you are going to pull him up one inch, he’s going to go down six inches. That’s because he is su… so sure that a lie is terrible, and that pretense is the most horrible thing; he’s got to have the truth, and the only truth he’ll assume is that truth which is fed to him on his level of the tone band, which is KILL, FEAR, DIE, FADE, OBEY. Great, big code he has to run on. So that’s the truth he buys. And you will have to sell him on a reverse vector by not selling him at all.

BUT there is a little light deposit that says, „We’ve got to think about the past,“ and that’s the… the deposit accumulated of having to think hard about the past. And you turn it red, and you turn it green, and you turn it blue and you turn it purple. And you try to avoid seeing it, and you avoid seeing it, and you turn it orange and,. and you put it under the left foot.

You go around and say to him… say to him, „Now, this Scientology is really all right.“ But I tell you, I can just see some of you now sitting in a… in a… in a… a rather arty uh… in a rather arty living room, in some studio apartment or something of this sort, talking to these two people… and they’re… they’re a… an attorney and his wife or something like that, and they’re nice people and they have always looked bright to you and uh… I can see these people, and uh… they are saying, „But that’s perfectly incredible! It’s mysticism. I never thought you were a mystic or that you go in for that sort of thing.“

‘Cause what is it? It’s your own energy which you’re holding onto, by which you’re trying to estimate change of havingness in the future.

I can just see you earnestly and pleadingly say… saying, „Please give me a license to survive. Please give me a license to survive. Please.“

A person who tries to estimate change of havingness… rate of change of havingness in the future, by comparing it to the past is gonna fall flat every time.

They mention, „I hear you mixed up with that new cult.“

That is why law is such an interesting profession. Because law depends almost wholly upon precedent, rather than justice or chancery, anything. Precedent, precedent, precedent, precedent. The past is good. The past is good. The past is good. The past is good. The past is good.

You tell ‘em, „It is the biggest cult. It’s the biggest cult in the world today. And uh… it’s very funny because you see it doesn’t work.“

And, of course, it moves with incredible slowness. It has enormous heavy massive tomes and buildings and courts, and… and there’re the guys that practice it uh… in terms of police and that sort of thing, they get heavy and everything is slow, and they have to stop motion, and hold it and so forth.

And the fellow says, „What?“

Naturally, because they’re running on the principle: the precedent, the precedent, the precedent, the precedent, the precedent, the precedent. And that means the past is the measure by which we measure the future.

And you say… and you say, „It’s very funny but Scientology just doesn’t work. That’s all.“

You cannot take the laws of Holland in the year 1213 and pick them up and apply ‘em against Holland in 1952. It cannot be done! And you can’t take the laws of 1928 in the United States, and apply them to the United States in 1952. Different year.

And if you want to tell him anything… you want to s… hang it on somebody and say it’s somebody’s fault, you just tell ‘em, „If Ron heard me tell you that it would help your back, he would probably be very upset. But confidently the truth of the matter is it will.“ If you wanna blame somebody, the name’s yours. My name anyhow. But there’s… there is your… your answer.

I know this comes as a shock and surprise to many of the governmental agencies, but it’s not 1928.

Now, don’t be surprised (I probably shouldn’t put this on the tape) but don’t be surprised if you were to find… you were to find all sorts of people springing up around insisting „It’s bad! It works!“ And so, now don’t… don’t be too amazed.

Now, being down the time track is simply trying hard… down the time track is trying hard to agree with the past so that the present will go all right. If you agree with past experience then the present will go all right. And of course that’s a completely dippy one and brings about insanity, and everybody does it.

But don’t you be amazed if you get a level of ostracism on the basis of trying to plead its cause or case; it doesn’t need a case pled. Nobody is going to be able to execute it; it can’t be shot, nothing can happen to it, that is the truth. It has the thickest armour plate in the world, zero space, it’s an idea. There’s no reason in your being uh… defensive about it in any category and the truth of the matter is that if you tried hard, you could actually sell people on Scientology, just… they would just get squirrelly if you never talked any other way than „it didn’t work.“ Just look at them, „It doesn’t work.“ Not come-on… not as a come-on so they’ll say… never seize on to it so that it becomes a come-on.

Let’s agree with experience and have nothing to do with the postulate.

„I’m not supposed to tell you that this’ll fix up your back.“ „It probably wouldn’t. It very often KILLS people! Do you know, confidentially, I don’t know why I got mixed up in this because I’ve never been in quite a cold-blooded atmosphere, but do you know that the Hubbard Foundation at 237 North 16th Street there is right next door to a…“ You can tell them, „Of course, I don’t mean to infer that anybody took that address next to that mortuary on purpose.“ „And don’t get wrong the impression I was trying… I was trying not to tell you that.“ And if you just follow that up real close and so forth and then say, „Of course I’m kidding you.“ This will set their teeth on edge. Oh-ohh!

Well, I talk quite a bit about this because it’s possibly for you an analysis of what Postulate Processing is. It’s trying to get far enough uptone, which is to say use and be influenced by energy so slightly, and be in control of it so s… forcefully and so heavily, and be able to go up so high above any necessity to need it, that one simply says, „Let there be light.“ That’s your theoretical level.

Now if somebody says… somebody says to you… somebody says to you „Oh, you are a theta clear, huh? You… I understand you’re a theta clear that’s… and so on. Well, why don’t you do so-and-so and so-and-so and prove this!“

So, you have a process in this in asking the preclear to find these levels and turn them red, blue, green and wink. You’ll find out you’ll solve a lot of his troubles when you do that. ‘Cause all he’s really interested in is: „What is going to happen to me?“

You could say, „Who told you I was a theta clear? I want to know’. Was it some member of the… of the uh… Foundation, somebody like that? Was it another auditor? It wasn’t another auditor, was it? TELL ME!!“ As though you’d just been insulted beyond insult, just reverse your emotional vector on the whole deal, and they’ll have terrific reasons then to believe why they’ve got to be scared to death of you.

And you see, what was going to happen to him in 1913, as adjudicated by what happened to him in 1912, is not good experience to measure what happened to him in 1952, and even the experience what happened to him in 1832 has no bearing, really, on what happens to him in 1952. And yet we’ll find him making it so. You’ll find him adding this up.

Now, another thing in order to… in view of the fact that this information is absolutely wide-open, it obviously can’t be any good. Why, if I were you, I’d fix up a dummy, and take a book or something of the sort and write on the face of it THE BLACK BOOK OF SCIENTOLOGY or something of the sort and then band it very tightly so it’s hard to open and people… instead of… people come around, they want to have a s… a snide smile on their face, something like that because of what you’re doing… make a point of having it on the desk and suddenly kicking it into the desk drawer and slam the desk door real quick. And say, „Hello, Joe!“ Do it with a perfectly straight face. And he’ll feel sort of creepy about the whole thing. The reason he will feel creepy is a very, very good reason why he’ll feel creepy. There’s a terrific reason why; is because he basically knows that anybody that starts on this track becomes excessively dangerous. That’s true.’ It doesn’t matter how stupid he’s acting, there is some kind of an echoing memory lost back of all that automaticity that’s saying, „Oh boy, no, no, no. I was in an area once, there was a thetan in the area, and I killed this deer in this forest, and oh, lord, that was the horriblest past death I think I have.“ And he’ll be saying, „Of course, there is no such thing.“ It’s not true; thetans are bad people to have around if they’re bad people.

„Let’s see, in 1832 we had a cylinder of this size and it was used for a hay mow. Now, automobiles have cylinders. And therefore I can’t fix an automobile engine. And the reason for this was, is my father back there in the 19th century didn’t like this thing he used in the hay mow. He couldn’t handle it and once it fell on the calf. And I liked the calf, so therefore automobiles are no good.“ A=A=A=A would be a past time engram kicking in because of the geometric similarity of form, and that’s all there is to that.

Now, furthermore, you don’t take any responsibility for… for. uh… anything that you own beyond the level of just having it all anyway. I mean there’s no… no sense in going around wondering whether or not you have responsibility, don’t have responsibility or whether you took responsibility or didn’t take respons… This is pointless, this… you’re thinking about BLAME if you are doing that.

Well, I’ve actually just beat this thing to death as far as that’s concerned. I could give you an awful lot of… of examples of processing one way or the other… and I probably should.

No, you… you just… do you want to know how to take responsibility for everything? Is go out someday and go on up to… go on up to the top of one of the taller buildings or something of the sort or get out of your head and take a look at the town. And uh… just see how your town is coming out here, „Well, I guess they’re doing all right now. Okay.“ Just make a postulate like that once in a while. Very funny! You probably come down after that, walk ten feet down in line and have some man ask you if he can spit in the sidewalk.

There’s the Positive and Negative approach to processing; there’s trying not to have the engram, and trying to have the engram. There are four flows really. And there’s trying not to have the engram, and trying to have the engram. And there’s trying to restrain oneself from not having the engram, and trying to restrain oneself from having the engram. In both of which cases, one is trying to have the engram, trying not to have the engram. Four flows. A halt on trying to have clear on over to a halt on trying not to have, to trying not to have. it’s a gradient scale itself.

Now, I would like to point out really the fact of trying to tell people about Scientology; there is… there are some texts, the Professional Course Texts, and so forth; the British edition of SELF ANALYSIS will be available and that’s… and that says Dianetics, I know; SELF ANALYSIS IN DIANETICS is the title of it. Yeah, but it’s fine; it’ll do ‘em a lot of good; it won’t worry ‘em any. And I had it read by several people and, boy, were they stupid people I picked. I picked the most stupid people I could pick, and I wrote that and rewrote that text on the description of it until every one of ‘em knew what I was talking about and agreed with it, and they worked fine. And that’s right; that’s a good book. And you go around the place and you’ll say, „Well, I found out more from that book than any other book.“ And we’re trying to make that book available to auditors cheap so they don’t have to do a lot of explaining. And don’t even bother to explain this.

Now uh… let’s see here, would uh… well, let’s… let’s… let’s find out, let’s… I… I… I… let’s sit down. I am not going to give you anything very rough – nothing very rough. You… you can… you can estimate now what your havingness is in terms of the future because of this process in terms of the present.

„What is the business about energy units, and you getting out of your head and everything else?“

PC: (Chuckles).

And you say, „Who’s been telling you about that?“

LRH: Now, what… what… how is this going to alter your havingness in the future? It won’t.

And they say, „Oh, it was all over the place. It was in… it was in LOSS OF TIME magazine and…“

PC: I don’t think so.

And you say, „Well, it was in that… but you… nobody has been talking to you about it, have they?“

LRH: That’s right. That is what I figured. No change.

And they say, „N… no.“

Okay, now let’s look in front of your face there for a moment and let’s see if you can see anything even vaguely resembling energy as a deposit.

And you say, „You’re sure?“

PC: It’s blackness. Plain blackness.

„No.“

LRH: There’s a lot of blackness there, huh?

„Well, all right.“ Just close the conversation. And then don’t be so anxious to see a reaction.

PC: Um-hum.

The only reason a guy can’t pull this stuff off smoothly is because he is so anxious to see a reaction on the part of other people. And their anxiety is not to show one. You let them go home and sweat. They sweat.

LRH: Uh… it’s easy to get that?

You have… you have yourself a situation where you… you just uh… rush the game like a poker player. I mean, he’s… he’s too anxious to find out what the other fellow’s cards are he just can’t wait! Oh, no, that’s a bad way to play a game.

PC: It’s fairly easy.

That person, just uh… they toss it off and they appear to be very indifferent about it, and if you were to look inside their heads you’d see this… this festering seething mass; that’s their concern about this whole thing, and they’re sitting there saying blandly, „Would you have another cup of tea, my dear.“ And uh… they’re very calm about this whole thing. They’re not.

LRH: Uh… well, now is that blackness uh… past, present or future?

If you see somebody nailed to the top of the Empire State Building flagpost with a huge beautiful silken banner flopping down around the inert body or something like that, why, don’t be too surprised or amazed; it’ll be in a good cause; he was a member of The Better Dead Club or something of the sort, but the banner will… would say, „Scientology doesn’t work.“ And that would… that would be the byword.

PC: A combination. I think mostly past.

And that is, by the way, what I tell people. They say, „Oh, you’ve got a pitch going“ or something like that.

LRH: Uh… it… the blackness is past?

„No! No!“ I say, „I haven’t got a pitch going or anything like that.“ Don’t let them them put it in that line. „It is just the fact that you have got to have something around that doesn’t function at all.“ And I always throw this stuff up. And they start looking at rather peculiarly. You say, „Well, it doesn’t work! It really doesn’t. There’s no use getting upset about it; it doesn’t.“

PC: Uh-hum.

And the guys say, „Ahhhhhhhhhhh. Bad stuff.“

LRH: Okay. Yeah, let’s take a look there to see if we can see anything even vaguely resembling a uh… color or a darkness and so on that might be present.

So I advice to you very well that line of tactic because you’ll knock a lot of guys in the head.

PC: I don’t think I’d be able to tell the difference.

Once in a while when you feel yourself being trapped, remember that chart and just reverse the vector on somebody; it works really every time, even if you don’t see the reaction instantly.

LRH: Hum. No, don’t confirm these theories that way. That… that’s not… not good. You… you realize… you realize how much a newspaper reporter – sad to say, if we ever had him on an E-Meter, and found out all he could think of was rape or something.

Let’s take a break.

All right, just uh… take hold of the cans here. And I guess have to ask the little handy jim-dandy meter. You don’t have to have mitt on there. That’s a beautiful mitt. Volney is… thinks that this will blow out, and he’ll think it does all sorts of things, and as a of fact it won’t. I… I can’t hurt one.

Okay, let’s take a look if you don’t mind too much here, and find out what tone scale. There we go; why you’re in pretty good tone, alive, breathing.

Okay, what’s that deposit you’ve got there? Is that past? Is that present? Future? It’s not the future.

What about the future? Something wrong with the future.

PC: Too many obstacles.

LRH: Too many obstacles in the future? All right. Get your eyes there for a moment. Let’s look around and see the obstacles. Can you see them? Are they visible?

PC: On a reality basis, no.

LRH: You don’t see them?

PC: Uh-hum.

LRH: Well, okay, that is all right. If you don’t see ‘em, you don’t see ‘em. Got it?

Let’s take a look at the… at the past again. You know, that’s just plain murder, you sit there and look at a theta bop – you’re trying to do something else obviously. You realize you’ve got a theta bop.

PC: I have?

LRH: Oh, that’s a rough deal. Be careful not to make a postulate about it.

PC: All right. I won’t do that.

LRH: All right, too many obstacles in the future.

Well, let’s uh… take a look at that blackness in front of your face there, and let’s put a little ring of whiteness around it.

PC: All right.

LRH: Got a little ring of white ness around it?

PC: Yeah. Urn-hum.

LRH: Well, put a white dot in the center of it, too.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. No turn it black again.

PC: All right.

LRH Now, let’s see if you could turn it white, all of it.

PC: Gray.

LRH: Gray? Good enough.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, turn it back a little darker gray.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, a little bit lighter gray.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s get it down to… to quite black again.

PC: I can’t get it too black.

LRH: That’s all right. Just toward black. And uh… now let’s get it up the line toward a bright gray.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s get it down to a dark gray.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s roll it up the line to a… a little bit more toward white than before.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Do you have a feeling like you’re holding that off or holding it in?

PC: Holding it off.

LRH: You feel like you are holding it off?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: How about holding it in?

PC: It’s standing still.

LRH: It’s standing still.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: You’ve got it in balance? All right, let’s turn it to a, uh… by the way, is there a matching one behind your head?

PC: I don’t… I don’t know. It’s hard to tell.

LRH It seems… okay. Okay. I just want to know.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Uh… now let’s see this white one in front of your face.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Got that white still, or grayish?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Have you got it white this time?

PC: Grayish-white now. It’s fairly white.

LRH: Well, let’s turn it darker.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s turn it lighter.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s put a little tinge of red in It. Put a tinge of red in that grayness. Let’s just get a little…

PC: I must not like red or something.

LRH: It’s not like red?

PC: I must not like it.

LRH: Oh, well, I don’t blame you. How about getting a little tinge of green going through it.

PC: All right.

LRH: Hum. Okay. Got a little tinge of green going through it? Well, let’s turn it back to white, whitishness now.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s turn it back to reddishness. Any tiny little flick or impression of it being red. Let’s try not to get it red now.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Did it get red? It did?

PC: Slightly.

LRH: Oh, well, what do you know. All right. Let’s turn it green.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: All right, let’s try not to turn it red again.

PC: All right.

LRH: And let’s turn it green.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, can you increase the intensity of that greenness?

PC: A little.

LRH: All right. Now let’s decrease it.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s decrease it way down till it turns a sort of a whitish, muddy color.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: All right, let’s turn It down toward black.

PC: I got it.

LRH: Well, let’s turn it into a black curtain.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, let’s turn it into a black curtain with little spots of white in it.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s turn it uh… whitish as a curtain.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s make its t… texture silky.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s just start taking curtains off the e… edge of it or the face of it furthest away from you and throw them away. Let’s have a whole stack of curtains there In front of you all white, and whitish silky curtains and start throwing ‘em away. What happens when you do that?

PC: Uh… I’m peeling them but they have… I’m having a difficult time peeling them off.

LRH: Well, just… just loosen the corners this time.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s loosen another corner.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, let’s loosen another corner.

PC: All right.

LRH: And now, let’s install a flutter device that sort of uh… flutters them. Make them flutter a little bit. Just make them ripple a trifle.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s fill them full of glue and let’s make sure there’s glue but for… all through there – good heavy glue. And let’s perceive this glue in there. Well, just get the feeling like it’s glued.

PC: All right.

LRH: Have you got the feeling about them glued on?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: All right. Now make them glued on tighter.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And make them glued down much tighter.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: All right. Now let’s just decrease the glueyness of them a little.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let’s increase the glueyness of them a trifle.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now let’s decrease it a little more.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s make ‘em good and gluey. Oh, really make those things sticky now.

PC: I’m having a difficult time holding the uh…

LRH: Well, let’s try not to hold it now. Now, let’s hold it again. Let’s get it very sticky. Now, let’s reach out and pull the furthest white curtain away now.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And another one.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s go and get about 15 or 20 white curtains and let’s plaster ‘em on this thing – the back of it.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s stick them on there heavily. Now, let’s get about 500 more. Plaster ‘em all over your body. Lots of ‘em. Oh, but the tonnage.

PC: All over me but they’re not coming toward me.

LRH: Where are they going?

PC: Out to the left.

LRH: They’re going out to the left?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Well, pour ‘em out to the left – lots of ‘em. Enforce that line. Got ‘em going real good?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s speed it up. Now, let’s slow It down. Did you slow it down a little bit?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let’s speed it up a whole lot. Now, let’s slow it way down and stop it… Did you get that?

PC: Ummmm.

LRH: Did you get ‘em stopped? Well, just speed them up again.

PC: They’re just changing again.

LRH: Huh?

PC: It’s changing.

LRH: What’s changing?

PC: I don’t see the curtains.

LRH: The curtains are gone?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Oh, no. Now turn that… turn that deposit black in front of your face. Got it real good?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, let’s put another deposit of black on it.

PC: All right.

LRH: And another deposit of black on it.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And let’s put much more in the way of black deposits on it.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And let’s cover the whole thing with tar.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Now let’s… let’s wrap it around the head real tight in so it won’t get away. Can’t you tie those things down on the head?

PC: No, they stay away.

LRH: They stay away?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Well, how far is it away from you?

PC: About 10-20 feet.

LRH: Way out there?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Is it all black out there?

PC: Just a black spot.

LRH: Well, is that all?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Well, turn it green.

PC: All right.

LRH: Turn it purple.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Turn it yellow.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Why don’t you put it over about 10 feet.

PC: All right.

LRH: Why don’t you put it up about five feet.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Why don’t you put it down about 10 feet.

PC: All right.

LRH: Why don’t you put it on top of the door down below as you come into the lobby.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Now, why don’t you glue it down there.

PC: All right.

LRH: Okay. Let’s put another black spot out in front of you now.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let’s put that one down on top of the door.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Let’s get another one and put that down on top of the door.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And now, let’s get a white spot out there’ in front of you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: And put that down in front of the door.

PC: All right.

LRH: And uh… now let’s put all of those black spots in last… an hour ago. Got it?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Hold that Okay. Now, let’s be two feet behind your head…

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Got it. Okay. Now, let’s take a look at the front of your forehead – now the inside of your forehead… What do you see?

PC: Nothing.

LRH: Nothing there? Okay. Now let’s uh… put a little anchor ball out in front of you – an anchor point.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Hold it steady.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Did you hold it steady?

PC: Fairly steady.

LRH: Sort of steady?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: It doesn’t hold completely steady. Well, let’s put one behind your back at the same time.

PC: I don’t know that I’m doing that.

LRH: Okay, now let’s take all of the nice fellows you ever knew.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Got ‘em all? Do you see them out front?

PC: No.

LRH: All right, let’s take a house that you’ve lived in.

PC: All right.

LRH: Got that house?

PC: Pretty well.

LRH: Okay, now let’s move it over about a foot.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s move it back about a foot.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, let’s turn it upside down.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Let’s turn it right side up.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let’s put it behind your back.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let’s change it somewhat.

PC: All right.

LRH: Put it above your head.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Let’s put it out in front of you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Let’s put about four more houses out there.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, let’s take the last one you put out there and ram it into the body you have right there. Pick it up, push it into the body.

PC: Uh…

LRH: What happens when you do that?

PC: There’s a black line In front of the houses.

LRH: There’s a black line?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Okay, put one of those houses way away from you.

PC: All right.

LRH: Put another one way away from you.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Put all four away from you.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, mock up a whole big… mock up a whole big circle of those houses. Did you get a circle of ‘em around you?

PC: Yeah, but they’re floating.

LRH: They are floating? All right. Now just send them away from you.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Let’s mock up another circle of them and send those away.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Well, now let’s just mock up all around you and above you and below you houses of various descriptions, no matter how big their detail is – just mock up lots of them in a 360-degree sphere.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Let those go away from you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Got ‘em?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Keep ‘em going. Is there any area they don’t leave from easily?

PC: Uh… directly in front of me.

LRH: They don’t leave directly in front of you. Well, mock up four or five there and slam those into the body… What happens with those now?

PC: I don’t see them.

LRH: They’re gone?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: They disappeared?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Well, for heaven sakes, mock up about five more out there.

PC: All right.

LRH: Turn em red.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Turn ‘em yellow.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Turn ‘em blue.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Put ‘em behind your back.

PC: All right.

LRH: Put ‘em in front of your face.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Put ‘em behind your back.

PC: All right.

LRH: Put ‘em underneath you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Put ‘em above you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Push ‘em all together into one house.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, take that one house and start pulling off of it all kinds of houses, various assorted descriptions of houses and throw ‘em out around you. What’s happening?

PC: I don’t know, I get an awful confusion of things now.

LRH: Oh, you do?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, just keep pulling those houses out and stacking houses around you now… Can you do that?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now let’s just take all of those houses and let ‘em move away from you.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Let’s mock up every dwelling in which you’ve lived for the last Lord knows how long – any duration of time – and mock ‘em all up around you in all different directions… Make you nervous?

PC: Slightly.

LRH: Well, turn ‘em all red.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Turn ‘em all blue.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let ‘em be any color they please.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Uh… move ‘em all away from you.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Mock up another set similar to them… Mock them all up again.

PC: I can’t get houses anymore.

LRH: You can’t get houses?

PC: Uh-uh.

LRH: Mock up one house. One little tiny house and put it on your knee… One little tiny house and put it on your knee, got that?… What’s happening?

PC: It’s just this big black spiralling mass in front of me, whatever it is.

LRH: Well, don’t put the house there then. Put the house upon your shoulder… You get that?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Got that? Well, now put two houses there on your shoulder.

PC: I can see quite a number of them.

LRH: All right, let’s get a lot of houses up there on your shoulder.

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Have you got ‘em?

PC: Um-hum.

LRH: Drop ‘em into that spiralling mass…