February 5, 1954 - Earth time.

February 5, 1954 - Earth time.

Now, it may have occurred- or it might not have occurred to the cases that are well up the line-it may have occurred to these cases that I have been talking, in these theories and so forth, mainly about resistive cases and difficult cases and exteriorization cases and so forth. This is not true. It is not true.

Now, it may have occurred- or it might not have occurred to the cases that are well up the line-it may have occurred to these cases that I have been talking, in these theories and so forth, mainly about resistive cases and difficult cases and exteriorization cases and so forth. This is not true. It is not true.

The theory about which I have been speaking, consistently and continually, has been applicable all up and down the line of livingness.

The theory about which I have been speaking, consistently and continually, has been applicable all up and down the line of livingness.

Now, the case which is doing well does better and better and better by an application of these very processes.

Now, the case which is doing well does better and better and better by an application of these very processes.

You can take a preclear who is well exteriorized and is apparently in excellent condition, and can flit around and can do almost anything, and then just start in, “Now, all right. Now let’s get the most certain thing that you can get about yourself, about sex and so forth.”

You can take a preclear who is well exteriorized and is apparently in excellent condition, and can flit around and can do almost anything, and then just start in, “Now, all right. Now let’s get the most certain thing that you can get about yourself, about sex and so forth.”

And this guy-you understand, the tremendous difference between a person interiorized in a body and exteriorized, a tremendous difference comes about because all he has to do while exteriorized is to change his mind. And he can get rid of almost anything simply by changing his mind. It’s very simple.

And this guy-you understand, the tremendous difference between a person interiorized in a body and exteriorized, a tremendous difference comes about because all he has to do while exteriorized is to change his mind. And he can get rid of almost anything simply by changing his mind. It’s very simple.

So you say “What’s the most-thing you’re certain of about children?” And he says-all of a sudden, he says, “Huh?” (That’s very peculiar.) “Oh, they aren’t so bad. You can take them or leave them-eat them, not eat them,” something of the sort.

So you say “What’s the most-thing you’re certain of about children?” And he says-all of a sudden, he says, “Huh?” (That’s very peculiar.) “Oh, they aren’t so bad. You can take them or leave them-eat them, not eat them,” something of the sort.

But the reactions you’re getting off of the case are very fast reactions. The person will suddenly recognize that he has his certainty on some basis or another and he’ll simply flip it over onto another basis. This individual is able to release a lock with ease.

But the reactions you’re getting off of the case are very fast reactions. The person will suddenly recognize that he has his certainty on some basis or another and he’ll simply flip it over onto another basis. This individual is able to release a lock with ease.

Now, let’s take another process which I’m going to run on you right this moment and this process is itself, of course, one of the Time processes. But this can be run with great gain in perception and so forth, on a person exteriorized.

Now, let’s take another process which I’m going to run on you right this moment and this process is itself, of course, one of the Time processes. But this can be run with great gain in perception and so forth, on a person exteriorized.

Now anybody present who is exteriorizing easily-those present just should be exteriorized or be well outside and others just right where they are, they can do it. And let’s get this now.

Now anybody present who is exteriorizing easily-those present just should be exteriorized or be well outside and others just right where they are, they can do it. And let’s get this now.

Give me some objects which are not this moment shooting at you. Coming in at you. Or shooting at you.

Give me some objects which are not this moment shooting at you. Coming in at you. Or shooting at you.

Got some?

Got some?

All right. Now get some that you’re not trying to throw away from you.

All right. Now get some that you’re not trying to throw away from you.

Now get some that you’re not trying to keep away from other objects. Get some other object and get some objects that you’re not trying to keep away from it.

Now get some that you’re not trying to keep away from other objects. Get some other object and get some objects that you’re not trying to keep away from it.

Now get some objects you’re not trying to make leave this same thing.

Now get some objects you’re not trying to make leave this same thing.

Now some objects you’re not trying to keep away from this thing.

Now some objects you’re not trying to keep away from this thing.

Now some objects you’re not trying to make leave this thing.

Now some objects you’re not trying to make leave this thing.

Now get something you could make leave this thing if you had to.

Now get something you could make leave this thing if you had to.

Now get some that you could make come in on this thing if you had to.

Now get some that you could make come in on this thing if you had to.

Okay. Now give me some places you are not.

Okay. Now give me some places you are not.

And now some places you’re not trying to protect, [pause] Some places you’re not trying to protect.

And now some places you’re not trying to protect, [pause] Some places you’re not trying to protect.

And now some things you don’t need a deed of title to.

And now some things you don’t need a deed of title to.

And now some things you wouldn’t mind looking at if they appeared suddenly.

And now some things you wouldn’t mind looking at if they appeared suddenly.

And some things which if they appeared suddenly would not immediately drive you away from or out of something.

And some things which if they appeared suddenly would not immediately drive you away from or out of something.

And now let’s fix your attention on something.

And now let’s fix your attention on something.

Now let’s unfix it.

Now let’s unfix it.

And now let’s fix your attention on something.

And now let’s fix your attention on something.

And let’s unfix it.

And let’s unfix it.

And put your attention on something.

And put your attention on something.

And take your attention off of it.

And take your attention off of it.

And put your attention on it.

And put your attention on it.

And take your attention off of it.

And take your attention off of it.

And put your attention on something.

And put your attention on something.

And take your attention off of it.

And take your attention off of it.

Okay. Now let’s mock-up somebody and have this person’s attention fix on something.

Okay. Now let’s mock-up somebody and have this person’s attention fix on something.

And now unfix from it.

And now unfix from it.

And fix on something.

And fix on something.

And now unfix from it.

And now unfix from it.

And now fix on it.

And now fix on it.

And now off of it.

And now off of it.

And now on it.

And now on it.

Now off of it.

Now off of it.

Okay. Let’s throw that person away.

Okay. Let’s throw that person away.

Now let’s mock yourself up walking in a certain direction or moving in a certain direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now let’s mock yourself up walking in a certain direction or moving in a certain direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now walk in another direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now walk in another direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now get yourself walking in another direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now get yourself walking in another direction and erect a barrier in front of yourself.

Now have you try to back up from something and erect up a barrier behind you. Have you try to back off from something else and you put a barrier behind you. And have you try to back off from something else and put another barrier behind you.

Now have you try to back up from something and erect up a barrier behind you. Have you try to back off from something else and you put a barrier behind you. And have you try to back off from something else and put another barrier behind you.

All right. Throw all that away.

All right. Throw all that away.

Now have you walk forward and throw a whole bunch of people in front of you to stop you.

Now have you walk forward and throw a whole bunch of people in front of you to stop you.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a whole bunch of people appear in front of you and stop you again.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a whole bunch of people appear in front of you and stop you again.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a bunch of people pop up and stop you again.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a bunch of people pop up and stop you again.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a wall of sound stop you.

Now try to walk in another direction and have a wall of sound stop you.

And try to go in another direction and have another wall of sound stop you.

And try to go in another direction and have another wall of sound stop you.

And in another direction and have another wall of sound stop you.

And in another direction and have another wall of sound stop you.

Now start to walk backwards and have a wall of sound hit you from the rear and stop you.

Now start to walk backwards and have a wall of sound hit you from the rear and stop you.

Try to back up again and have another wall of sound hit you from the rear and stop you.

Try to back up again and have another wall of sound hit you from the rear and stop you.

Now try to walk forward again, have a wall of sound hit you and walk right on through it.

Now try to walk forward again, have a wall of sound hit you and walk right on through it.

Now walk forward in another direction and have a wall of sound hit you and walk right on through it.

Now walk forward in another direction and have a wall of sound hit you and walk right on through it.

Now go in another direction, hit a wall of sound and walk straight on through the wall of sound.

Now go in another direction, hit a wall of sound and walk straight on through the wall of sound.

Now another direction, go through a wall of sound.

Now another direction, go through a wall of sound.

And throw all that away.

And throw all that away.

And let’s walk forward and have a wall of people suddenly stop us.

And let’s walk forward and have a wall of people suddenly stop us.

And you go right on through the wall.

And you go right on through the wall.

And another wall of people to stop us and you go on through the wall.

And another wall of people to stop us and you go on through the wall.

And another wall of talking people stop us and you go right on through the crowd. Move them out of the road, get through it somehow.

And another wall of talking people stop us and you go right on through the crowd. Move them out of the road, get through it somehow.

And another wall of people. And this time pick up a couple of textbooks full of information and walk on through the crowd.

And another wall of people. And this time pick up a couple of textbooks full of information and walk on through the crowd.

Now let’s be stopped by another wall of people and pick up some enormous textbooks and walk on through the crowd.

Now let’s be stopped by another wall of people and pick up some enormous textbooks and walk on through the crowd.

And have another wall of people appear there. And shoot them all down with machine guns and walk through the crowd.

And have another wall of people appear there. And shoot them all down with machine guns and walk through the crowd.

Okay. Throw all that away.

Okay. Throw all that away.

Give me three places where you’re not.

Give me three places where you’re not.

Three places where you’re not unconscious.

Three places where you’re not unconscious.

Give me three beings that you are not.

Give me three beings that you are not.

Three unconscious mock-ups that you’re not.

Three unconscious mock-ups that you’re not.

Now three places where you are not being stopped by people.

Now three places where you are not being stopped by people.

Some places where you are not stopping people with noise.

Some places where you are not stopping people with noise.

Some more places where you’re not stopping people with noise.

Some more places where you’re not stopping people with noise.

Now give me three places in this universe that you could successfully inhabit.

Now give me three places in this universe that you could successfully inhabit.

Get some certainty, now, that you could inhabit.

Get some certainty, now, that you could inhabit.

And now some places in this universe that you could guard.

And now some places in this universe that you could guard.

Some certainty, now, places you could guard.

Some certainty, now, places you could guard.

Now some places where you wouldn’t be thrown in jail.

Now some places where you wouldn’t be thrown in jail.

Some places where you are not being audited.

Some places where you are not being audited.

Now give me the most certain thing that you can get on the First Dynamic. The most certain thing you can get regarding your sanity.

Now give me the most certain thing that you can get on the First Dynamic. The most certain thing you can get regarding your sanity.

The most certain thing you can get about your power or force.

The most certain thing you can get about your power or force.

Again, the most certain thing you can get about your power or force.

Again, the most certain thing you can get about your power or force.

The most certain thing you can get about sex.

The most certain thing you can get about sex.

About children.

About children.

About groups.

About groups.

About Man.

About Man.

About insects.

About insects.

About insects.

About insects.

About insects.

About insects.

About wild animals.

About wild animals.

About shellfish.

About shellfish.

About domestic pets.

About domestic pets.

About other worlds.

About other worlds.

About space.

About space.

About energy.

About energy.

About sand.

About sand.

About radioactive masses.

About radioactive masses.

About clouds of gas.

About clouds of gas.

About distance.

About distance.

About time.

About time.

The most certain thing you can get about distance.

The most certain thing you can get about distance.

About time.

About time.

About distance.

About distance.

About time.

About time.

About distance.

About distance.

About time.

About time.

About this universe.

About this universe.

About spirits.

About spirits.

About ghosts.

About ghosts.

About other thetans.

About other thetans.

About God.

About God.

About the devil.

About the devil.

About infinite space.

About infinite space.

About God.

About God.

Now get the most certain thing you can get about sex.

Now get the most certain thing you can get about sex.

About eating.

About eating.

About symbols.

About symbols.

About thinking.

About thinking.

About effort.

About effort.

About emotion.

About emotion.

Most certain thing you can get about apathy.

Most certain thing you can get about apathy.

About ownership.

About ownership.

About protection.

About protection.

About hiding.

About hiding.

About grief.

About grief.

About apathy.

About apathy.

About protection.

About protection.

Most certain thing you can get about ownership.

Most certain thing you can get about ownership.

About hiding.

About hiding.

The most certain thing, now, that you can get about fear.

The most certain thing, now, that you can get about fear.

About grief.

About grief.

About apathy.

About apathy.

About protection.

About protection.

Ownership.

Ownership.

Hiding.

Hiding.

The most certain thing you can get about anger.

The most certain thing you can get about anger.

About fear.

About fear.

Grief.

Grief.

Apathy.

Apathy.

Protection.

Protection.

Ownership.

Ownership.

Hiding.

Hiding.

Most certain thing, now, you can get about resentment.

Most certain thing, now, you can get about resentment.

About anger.

About anger.

Fear.

Fear.

Grief.

Grief.

Apathy.

Apathy.

Protection.

Protection.

Ownership.

Ownership.

Hiding.

Hiding.

The most certain thing you can now get about boredom.

The most certain thing you can now get about boredom.

Resentment.

Resentment.

Protection.

Protection.

Hiding.

Hiding.

The most certain thing you can get about enthusiasm. Conservatism.

The most certain thing you can get about enthusiasm. Conservatism.

Serenity.

Serenity.

Hiding.

Hiding.

Ownership.

Ownership.

Protection.

Protection.

Apathy.

Apathy.

Grief.

Grief.

Fear.

Fear.

Anger.

Anger.

Resentment.

Resentment.

Boredom.

Boredom.

Conservatism.

Conservatism.

Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm.

Tiredness.

Tiredness.

Barriers.

Barriers.

Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm.

Tiredness.

Tiredness.

Barriers.

Barriers.

Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm.

Most certain thing you can get about tiredness.

Most certain thing you can get about tiredness.

Barriers.

Barriers.

Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm.

Barriers.

Barriers.

Tiredness.

Tiredness.

Barriers.

Barriers.

Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm.

Degradation.

Degradation.

Mass.

Mass.

Nobility.

Nobility.

Degradation.

Degradation.

Mass.

Mass.

Nobility.

Nobility.

Degradation.

Degradation.

Mass.

Mass.

Nobility.

Nobility.

Degradation.

Degradation.

Mass.

Mass.

Nobility.

Nobility.

Cowardice.

Cowardice.

Pain.

Pain.

Courage. Cowardice.

Courage. Cowardice.

Pain.

Pain.

Courage.

Courage.

Affinity.

Affinity.

Love.

Love.

Agreement.

Agreement.

Most certain thing you can get about agreement.

Most certain thing you can get about agreement.

About disagreement.

About disagreement.

Hate.

Hate.

Affinity.

Affinity.

Cause.

Cause.

The most certain thing you can get about cause.

The most certain thing you can get about cause.

Effect.

Effect.

Cause.

Cause.

Effect.

Effect.

The most certain thing you can get about cause.

The most certain thing you can get about cause.

Effect.

Effect.

Cause.

Cause.

Effect.

Effect.

Distance.

Distance.

Distance.

Distance.

Livingness.

Livingness.

Distance.

Distance.

Communication.

Communication.

Most certain thing you can get about communication.

Most certain thing you can get about communication.

Most certain thing you can get about smelling.

Most certain thing you can get about smelling.

About hearing.

About hearing.

About speaking.

About speaking.

About others speaking.

About others speaking.

About noise.

About noise.

About music.

About music.

About Brahms.

About Brahms.

About sight. Most certain thing you can get about sight.

About sight. Most certain thing you can get about sight.

About being seen.

About being seen.

About sight.

About sight.

About being seen.

About being seen.

About existence. Most certain thing you can get about existence.

About existence. Most certain thing you can get about existence.

Most certain thing you can get about knowing.

Most certain thing you can get about knowing.

About ignorance.

About ignorance.

About data.

About data.

About knowing.

About knowing.

About being right.

About being right.

About being right.

About being right.

About being nothing.

About being nothing.

About being wrong.

About being wrong.

About knowing.

About knowing.

About acting.

About acting.

About having.

About having.

About knowing.

About knowing.

Now, all right. Get with some certainty three masses in which you are not interiorized.

Now, all right. Get with some certainty three masses in which you are not interiorized.

Three masses from which you do not have to exteriorize.

Three masses from which you do not have to exteriorize.

Three things which you’re not being called upon to abandon.

Three things which you’re not being called upon to abandon.

Which you’re not being called upon to own.

Which you’re not being called upon to own.

Some things with which you’re not playing catch.

Some things with which you’re not playing catch.

Some items or objects which you are not trying to start.

Some items or objects which you are not trying to start.

Which you’re not trying to stop.

Which you’re not trying to stop.

Which you’re not trying to change.

Which you’re not trying to change.

Which you’re not trying to start.

Which you’re not trying to start.

Some things which you’re not trying to stop.

Some things which you’re not trying to stop.

Some things which you’re not trying to change.

Some things which you’re not trying to change.

Some things which you don’t have to control.

Some things which you don’t have to control.

Some things which somebody else doesn’t have to control.

Some things which somebody else doesn’t have to control.

Some things which are not funny.

Some things which are not funny.

Some things which somebody else believes are not funny.

Some things which somebody else believes are not funny.

Which you believe are not funny.

Which you believe are not funny.

Which somebody else believes is not funny.

Which somebody else believes is not funny.

Which you believe are not funny.

Which you believe are not funny.

Which somebody else believes not funny.

Which somebody else believes not funny.

Which you don’t believe are funny.

Which you don’t believe are funny.

Now let’s find some things that are not wrong.

Now let’s find some things that are not wrong.

Let’s find some things which you consider right.

Let’s find some things which you consider right.

Some places you don’t have to go to at this moment.

Some places you don’t have to go to at this moment.

Some illnesses you do not have at this moment.

Some illnesses you do not have at this moment.

Some hard items with which you are not playing catch.

Some hard items with which you are not playing catch.

Some things that are right with your body.

Some things that are right with your body.

Some things that are right with you as a thetan.

Some things that are right with you as a thetan.

Some things you don’t have to resist.

Some things you don’t have to resist.

Now let’s recall something that is real to you.

Now let’s recall something that is real to you.

And let’s find some raw dirt someplace and paw it.

And let’s find some raw dirt someplace and paw it.

Okay. Be where you please.

Okay. Be where you please.

Find the realest thing you can find in your environment.

Find the realest thing you can find in your environment.

Reach for it and withdraw from it.

Reach for it and withdraw from it.

Okay. Brighten up your perception a little bit? Brighten up your perception?

Okay. Brighten up your perception a little bit? Brighten up your perception?

Okay. Now there’s an example of processing which can hit both strata.

Okay. Now there’s an example of processing which can hit both strata.

Now, who, that was already certainly exteriorized, got a bigger lift from the processing itself? A lift.

Now, who, that was already certainly exteriorized, got a bigger lift from the processing itself? A lift.

Good. Okay.

Good. Okay.

All too much we grind away on the exteriorized thetan, on a thetan, in terms of the MEST universe. Just as if this was all there was to know.

All too much we grind away on the exteriorized thetan, on a thetan, in terms of the MEST universe. Just as if this was all there was to know.

Now I’m going to give you some processes which those who are not certainly exteriorized can do in a vague, mild way and should try to do.

Now I’m going to give you some processes which those who are not certainly exteriorized can do in a vague, mild way and should try to do.

Okay. Now be some distance from the chair. Take a look at the foggiest part of the environment. You know, anything that looks a little unclear to you and duplicate it.

Okay. Now be some distance from the chair. Take a look at the foggiest part of the environment. You know, anything that looks a little unclear to you and duplicate it.

And continue to duplicate it, many times.

And continue to duplicate it, many times.

Duplicate its fogginess or its uncertainness.

Duplicate its fogginess or its uncertainness.

A lot more times.

A lot more times.

Okay. Throw it away.

Okay. Throw it away.

Now let’s find or make a nothingness.

Now let’s find or make a nothingness.

And duplicate it a great many times.

And duplicate it a great many times.

Throw it away.

Throw it away.

Okay. Find a MEST object and get the idea of stopping your sight on it so that you can see it.

Okay. Find a MEST object and get the idea of stopping your sight on it so that you can see it.

And just continue to put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it. Stop your sight, not the object.

And just continue to put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it and put your sight out on it and stop it. Stop your sight, not the object.

Continue to do that.

Continue to do that.

Okay. Now confront this object and just look straight through it.

Okay. Now confront this object and just look straight through it.

And look through it again.

And look through it again.

Now find another object and look straight through it and another object and look straight through it and another object and look straight through it. And just continue that as an exercise.

Now find another object and look straight through it and another object and look straight through it and another object and look straight through it. And just continue that as an exercise.

Now find a barrier. Find a barrier, a good formidable barrier. Look straight through it.

Now find a barrier. Find a barrier, a good formidable barrier. Look straight through it.

Find another barrier and look through it. It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it imperfectly at first. Relax.

Find another barrier and look through it. It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it imperfectly at first. Relax.

And another barrier and look through it.

And another barrier and look through it.

All right. Now find some MEST object that you can feel. A MEST object that you can feel.

All right. Now find some MEST object that you can feel. A MEST object that you can feel.

Now feel it.

Now feel it.

Now feel at it and pass straight through it, feeling nothing.

Now feel at it and pass straight through it, feeling nothing.

Feel it, feel through it. And continue that exercise. Feel it, feel through it. Feel it, feel through it.

Feel it, feel through it. And continue that exercise. Feel it, feel through it. Feel it, feel through it.

Okay.

Okay.

All right. Now be where you please. Be where you please.

All right. Now be where you please. Be where you please.

The formidable character of barriers sort of breaking down on you? Hm? Breaking down a little bit? Anybody have any difficulty with that last one?

The formidable character of barriers sort of breaking down on you? Hm? Breaking down a little bit? Anybody have any difficulty with that last one?

Female voice: Well, I liked the first one better, it’s easier.

Female voice: Well, I liked the first one better, it’s easier.

Um-hm.

Um-hm.

All right. Now this next one, those who are not certainly exteriorized should not do, because this is some Change of Space and Exteriorization-Interiorization. So just relax and take this as an example how you process somebody doing this. And those who can certainly exteriorize, let’s do it.

All right. Now this next one, those who are not certainly exteriorized should not do, because this is some Change of Space and Exteriorization-Interiorization. So just relax and take this as an example how you process somebody doing this. And those who can certainly exteriorize, let’s do it.

Now let’s be way back.

Now let’s be way back.

Find a barrier.

Find a barrier.

Now be on the other side of it.

Now be on the other side of it.

Be on the first side of it.

Be on the first side of it.

Second side of it.

Second side of it.

First side of it.

First side of it.

Second side of it.

Second side of it.

Now whiz, whiz, whiz, just back and forth, picking up speed, going through the barrier each time.

Now whiz, whiz, whiz, just back and forth, picking up speed, going through the barrier each time.

Okay. Be on this side of it.

Okay. Be on this side of it.

And now let’s take up space as a barrier.

And now let’s take up space as a barrier.

You measure off a big distance. Just look around you and find what you conceive to be a big distance. And get something to mark the finite end of this distance.

You measure off a big distance. Just look around you and find what you conceive to be a big distance. And get something to mark the finite end of this distance.

You know, “Gee, this is a long way off.”

You know, “Gee, this is a long way off.”

Now mark where you are and mark the other end of the distance.

Now mark where you are and mark the other end of the distance.

Now be in the place where you measured the distance.

Now be in the place where you measured the distance.

Now just be in the position at the other end of the distance.

Now just be in the position at the other end of the distance.

The first position.

The first position.

Be at the end of the distance.

Be at the end of the distance.

Now just continue to swap those two positions, one after the other, each time getting what a tremendous distance this is. Just be in one point and then be at the other point. Don’t move through the distance, just be at one point and then the other point, [pause] Okay.

Now just continue to swap those two positions, one after the other, each time getting what a tremendous distance this is. Just be in one point and then be at the other point. Don’t move through the distance, just be at one point and then the other point, [pause] Okay.

That working all right? These two points collapse on anybody or anything like that? They came together? Did they separate again?

That working all right? These two points collapse on anybody or anything like that? They came together? Did they separate again?

Well, let’s do it some more till they separate if they have come together.

Well, let’s do it some more till they separate if they have come together.

Female voice: I was at both ends at once.

Female voice: I was at both ends at once.

Okay. You’ve just gotten off into duplicating yourself easily.

Okay. You’ve just gotten off into duplicating yourself easily.

Male voice: Yeah well, that's what happened. I moved them together because - I didn't move them together - I didn't have them in the same place and be in one place and then the otherplace. Then I moved one to the other so I had them in the same place and just switched one to the other.

Male voice: Yeah well, that's what happened. I moved them together because - I didn't move them together - I didn't have them in the same place and be in one place and then the otherplace. Then I moved one to the other so I had them in the same place and just switched one to the other.

Now did you measure a MEST universe distance before you did this?

Now did you measure a MEST universe distance before you did this?

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

And then you put those two points together?

And then you put those two points together?

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

Well, you just blow that up and let’s do that all over again.

Well, you just blow that up and let’s do that all over again.

Let’s get a big distance now and mark it by a planet or a star or something. You got that?

Let’s get a big distance now and mark it by a planet or a star or something. You got that?

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

All right.

All right.

Let’s get another distance marked by a planet or a star.

Let’s get another distance marked by a planet or a star.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

All right. Be in the first position.

All right. Be in the first position.

Be in the second position.

Be in the second position.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

The first position.

The first position.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

The second position.

The second position.

The first position.

The first position.

The second position.

The second position.

Are they coming together?

Are they coming together?

Male voice: Tending to, I think.

Male voice: Tending to, I think.

Oh, they feel like they’re stretching together, huh?

Oh, they feel like they’re stretching together, huh?

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

Well, just be the whole space between them.

Well, just be the whole space between them.

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

Is that easy to do?

Is that easy to do?

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

All right. Now be the space “one” position.

All right. Now be the space “one” position.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Be the whole space.

Be the whole space.

Be the space of the other position.

Be the space of the other position.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

You got that?

You got that?

Male voice: Yeah.

Male voice: Yeah.

All right. Be in position one.

All right. Be in position one.

Position two.

Position two.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Position one.

Position one.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Position two.

Position two.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

Okay? That a little better?

Okay? That a little better?

All right. This next one now. Now let’s be above the North Pole-Earth.

All right. This next one now. Now let’s be above the North Pole-Earth.

Let’s be above the Moon.

Let’s be above the Moon.

Now be above the Sun.

Now be above the Sun.

Above Earth.

Above Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth. [rapid delivery of commands]

Earth. [rapid delivery of commands]

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth, [very rapid delivery of commands] Moon.

Earth, [very rapid delivery of commands] Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

Moon.

Moon.

Sun.

Sun.

Earth.

Earth.

What happened?

What happened?

Female voice: Felt like I was standing still and those things were just-vhoom!...

Female voice: Felt like I was standing still and those things were just-vhoom!...

Yeah?

Yeah?

Female voice: It’s fun!

Female voice: It’s fun!

Okay.

Okay.

Female voice: Everything is spinning.

Female voice: Everything is spinning.

Good, all right.

Good, all right.

Now let’s be above Earth.

Now let’s be above Earth.

And now let’s locate where the other side of Earth is.

And now let’s locate where the other side of Earth is.

And be in the first position again and this time mock yourself up as a dive bomber and dive straight through Earth and out the other side.

And be in the first position again and this time mock yourself up as a dive bomber and dive straight through Earth and out the other side.

Now let’s dive back through Earth again.

Now let’s dive back through Earth again.

Now let’s dive back through Earth again.

Now let’s dive back through Earth again.

Now let’s be in the center of Earth and have a number of objects fly off the surface of Earth into the sky.

Now let’s be in the center of Earth and have a number of objects fly off the surface of Earth into the sky.

Now right while you’re in the center of Earth there, just look all around and find no Earth at all.

Now right while you’re in the center of Earth there, just look all around and find no Earth at all.

Now find only the thinnest crust of Earth, the rest of it hollow.

Now find only the thinnest crust of Earth, the rest of it hollow.

Now find it all solid.

Now find it all solid.

Now just a crust. Be in the center now. Just a crust.

Now just a crust. Be in the center now. Just a crust.

All solid.

All solid.

Just a crust.

Just a crust.

All solid.

All solid.

Just a crust.

Just a crust.

All solid.

All solid.

Not even a crust.

Not even a crust.

All right. Be right there and look at the Sun.

All right. Be right there and look at the Sun.

Now put Earth there again.

Now put Earth there again.

Okay. Now let’s be outside of Earth.

Okay. Now let’s be outside of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Outside of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Other side of Earth.

Other side of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Center of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Opposite side of Earth.

Center of Earth and own Earth.

Center of Earth and own Earth.

Now feel some courage about Earth, in the center.

Now feel some courage about Earth, in the center.

And be outside it and feel some courage about it.

And be outside it and feel some courage about it.

And the center of it and feel some courage about it.

And the center of it and feel some courage about it.

And the outside of it and feeling some courage about it.

And the outside of it and feeling some courage about it.

And the center of it.

And the center of it.

And now be up near Mars.

And now be up near Mars.

Now be in the center of Mars.

Now be in the center of Mars.

Outside of Mars.

Outside of Mars.

Center of Mars.

Center of Mars.

Outside of Mars.

Outside of Mars.

Center of Mars.

Center of Mars.

Now make something fly off the surface of Mars into the sky.

Now make something fly off the surface of Mars into the sky.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Something else.

Now be outside of Mars.

Now be outside of Mars.

Now let’s mock ourselves up as a dive bomber and dive straight down to the surface of Mars and right on through into the center of Mars.

Now let’s mock ourselves up as a dive bomber and dive straight down to the surface of Mars and right on through into the center of Mars.

And feel the density of it.

And feel the density of it.

Now zoom right out of the center of Mars, pass the surface of Mars and way out into the sky beyond Mars.

Now zoom right out of the center of Mars, pass the surface of Mars and way out into the sky beyond Mars.

Now duplicate Mars.

Now duplicate Mars.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Be way out from the solar system.

Be way out from the solar system.

Throw away those duplicates down there. Make them disappear. Way out from the solar system and duplicate the solar system.

Throw away those duplicates down there. Make them disappear. Way out from the solar system and duplicate the solar system.

Again.

Again.

Again.

Again.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Change it.

Change it.

Change it again.

Change it again.

Change its color.

Change its color.

Throw it all away.

Throw it all away.

Okay. Be in the center of this galaxy. Any approximate center.

Okay. Be in the center of this galaxy. Any approximate center.

Look in all directions.

Look in all directions.

Now look in all directions, find no galaxy.

Now look in all directions, find no galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Look in all directions and find no galaxy.

Look in all directions and find no galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Look in all directions and find no galaxy.

Look in all directions and find no galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Look in all directions and find a galaxy.

Be at the far end of the galaxy from here.

Be at the far end of the galaxy from here.

Be here.

Be here.

The far end of the galaxy.

The far end of the galaxy.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and enjoy it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Duplicate it and feel courageous about it.

Now duplicate the nothingness in it.

Now duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it and feel courageous about it.

And duplicate the nothingness in it and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and feel courageous about it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Do it again and enjoy it.

Throw away all your duplicates.

Throw away all your duplicates.

Okay. Be in your own universe.

Okay. Be in your own universe.

Mest universe.

Mest universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Your own universe.

Your own universe.

MEST universe.

MEST universe.

Somebody else’s universe. Come on, you can find one.

Somebody else’s universe. Come on, you can find one.

Own universe.

Own universe.

Mest universe.

Mest universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Own universe.

Own universe.

MEST universe.

MEST universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Somebody else’s universe.

Okay. Mock-up some space.

Okay. Mock-up some space.

Put a dog in it.

Put a dog in it.

Change it to a cat.

Change it to a cat.

Change it to a horse.

Change it to a horse.

Change it to a thetan.

Change it to a thetan.

Change it to you.

Change it to you.

Okay. Do what you please with it.

Okay. Do what you please with it.

Find some sand.

Find some sand.

Taste it.

Taste it.

Smell it.

Smell it.

Find nothing there.

Find nothing there.

Find something there.

Find something there.

Be somewhere in the vicinity of this room, take two particles and mock them up, pull them apart.

Be somewhere in the vicinity of this room, take two particles and mock them up, pull them apart.

Push them together.

Push them together.

Pull them apart.

Pull them apart.

Push them together.

Push them together.

Pull them apart.

Pull them apart.

Push them together.

Push them together.

Pull them apart.

Pull them apart.

Push them together.

Push them together.

Pull them apart.

Pull them apart.

Throw them away.

Throw them away.

Get something to fly away from you.

Get something to fly away from you.

Something else to fly away from you.

Something else to fly away from you.

Something else to fly away from you.

Something else to fly away from you.

Something to fly to you.

Something to fly to you.

Something to fly to you.

Something to fly to you.

Something to fly to you.

Something to fly to you.

Find some sand and paw it.

Find some sand and paw it.

Get some sensation from your body.

Get some sensation from your body.

Get no sensation from your body.

Get no sensation from your body.

Get some sensation from your body.

Get some sensation from your body.

Get no sensation from your body.

Get no sensation from your body.

Have your body find the floor beneath its feet.

Have your body find the floor beneath its feet.

End of session.

End of session.