LRH: Dead, huh? You dead?
PC: Nope.
LRH: Which one of you is alive? Which one of you is alive?
PC: Center.
LRH: Center is alive?
PC: Yep.
LRH: Good. Just realized it?
PC: No.
LRH: You knew that all the time?
PC: Apparently not.
[Booklet 17 begins here with "FIRST DEMONSTRATION", "AUD: Does any of your theta bodies have any MEST bodies anywhere else?"]
LRH: Mm-hm. You knew that.
All right. Do you - does any of your theta bodies have another MEST body anyplace else but here?
PC: Yep.
LRH: Mm-hm. Which one has a MEST body somewhere else?
PC: Left outside.
LRH: The left outside has a body someplace else, huh? Is that right? Yeah.
And what's the body like?
PC: About three inches taller.
LRH: About three inches taller? Mm-hm. What's it do normally?
PC: I don't know. Doctor?
LRH: Doctor? Used to be a doctor?
PC: No, is.
LRH: It is a doctor? Oh, you got another body on earth?
PC: No.
LRH: Got another body on earth, or you're splitting a body with somebody? Well, that's okay.
PC: Yep.
LRH: The left side splitting a body with somebody?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Yeah. Okay.
How about a body elsewhere? Does the left side have a body somewhere else?
PC: No.
LRH: No. How about the right side? Does it have a body somewhere else?
PC: Yep.
LRH: Mm-hm. The right side have a body somewhere else, huh? And where's that body?
PC: Well, that body is a long ways off.
LRH: A long way off.
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Where would you think it was?
PC: The first one was Mars.
LRH: The first flash is Mars?
PC: Yeah, that was what it was ...
LRH: What a coincidence, Mars again! My, that's coincidental. It's been a coincidence now for an awful lot of preclears, except one had to break the chain - only I think he's a traitor to the cause.
PC: When I said "long ways off" it was Mars.
LRH: Mars, huh?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, you don't mind it being Mars, do you?
PC: No.
LRH: Do you have a body there?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: What's it do?
PC: First thing I get is "run things."
LRH: It runs things, huh?
PC: Runs things, ruler, driver - not driver, no ...
LRH: Was it a ruler once?
PC: Yep.
LRH: Good old days, huh?
PC: No, now.
LRH: Now?
PC: That's what I get.
LRH: Mm-hm. The machine doesn't.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Tell me, is this body alive?
PC: No.
LRH: Oh, the body's dead?
PC: No.
LRH: Body isn't dead ...
PC: No.
LRH: ... isn't alive, yeah. Where do you imagine it could be?
PC: Between times.
LRH: Just sort of between times, huh? Mm-hm. There we are. Now we're getting the between-lives hunt. Okay.
PC: I'll be damned.
LRH: Now, let's find out some more about this body. Is it lying on a shelf?
PC: No.
LRH: Is it lying in a box?
PC: No.
LRH: Is it lying in a pit?
PC: No.
LRH: Is it sitting someplace?
PC: Standing.
LRH: It's standing.
PC: Yeah, that's what I get.
LRH: Oh, you poor devil. It's standing, huh? Where is it standing?
PC: Standing in a hall.
LRH: Standing in a hall.
PC: Waiting for a turn.
LRH: Waiting for its turn, to what?
PC: Report.
LRH: Does it think you're dead?
PC: Nope.
LRH: The heck it doesn't. (audience laughter) When did it think you were dead?
PC: Earlier.
LRH: Thought you were dead earlier. During an operation? Did you ever die in an operation? Did ...
PC: No.
LRH: ...ever think you died in an operation?
PC: No, I haven't had any major one, except tonsillectomy maybe ...
LRH: Tonsillectomy?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: How about a tonsillectomy? Did it think you died in a tonsillectomy?
PC: Could be. Getting it strong on that.
LRH: It just thinks you're dead?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Okay. Sort of missing. Well, what's it doing right now then?
PC: Waiting.
LRH: Waiting. How long has it been waiting there?
PC: A thousand years, roughly.
LRH: It's been in the area thousands of years?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: It hasn't been waiting in line thousands of years?
PC: No.
LRH: Has it been waiting in line thousands of years?
PC: No.
LRH: No. All right. Has it been up there thousands of years?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is it in good repair now?
PC: No.
LRH: Could you monitor that body from right where you are right now?
Could you make it do something?
PC: Thought I get - first thought I got on that was no, but I think I could.
LRH: Oh? Could you do something to it? Make it do something?
PC: No.
LRH: Why? Why can't you make it do something?
PC: First thought I get on this is "I don't want to."
LRH: Oh, go on. Give it a nudge. Give it a nudge.
PC: All right.
LRH: Give it a good nudge - solid nudge.
PC: Okay.
LRH: Hit it harder.
PC: All right.
LRH: Now, make it turn around and slug the next guy in line.
PC: Okay.
LRH: All right, let's slug somebody else now; let's start a riot. Anything wrong with starting a riot? See, you realize it will probably get killed, don't you? Would it be bad if it got killed?
PC: Yeah, seems to be.
LRH: Would it be bad if it got killed?
PC: No.
LRH: It's getting a little hunt here now; that's just fine. Would you be free if it got killed?
PC: Maybe, yeah.
LRH: Mm-hm. You're not too worried about it, though? They ever tell it to tell you what to do?
PC: No.
LRH: They ever tell it what to do?
PC: Yeah!
LRH: Mm-hm. That's not as bad, huh?
PC: No.
LRH: No? Pretty good, huh?
PC: No.
LRH: Hm, fine. Look, if you didn't have to report back there, could you go someplace else?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Mm-hm. Would you be free?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, is that bad?
PC: No. (yawns)
LRH: No. Well, let's take a look at this again. Where's the body now?
PC: Here.
LRH: Did it just come back? The theta body just come back here?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Yeah. Where's its body?
PC: Here and there.
LRH: Where's its NEST body?
PC: Here.
LRH: Mm-hm. Its MEST body is here. Is there a MEST body there?
PC: No.
LRH: What happened?
PC: It's gone.
LRH: Was the body gone all the time?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Hm. What's it been doing, one of these perpetual stand-in-lines?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: How long has this been going on?
PC: Thousands of years, maybe.
LRH: Thousands of years. How long ago did this NEST body die?
PC: The number I get on it is thirty thousand.
LRH: About thirty thousand years ago. Long time ago, huh?
LRH: Not a long time ago?
PC: No, thirty thousand years.
LRH: Oh, that's not a long time ago, that's right. Well, is it glad to be back here? Is he stuck in an incident?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: What incident is he stuck in?
PC: What I get is Emanator business.
LRH: Got "none of your business," huh?
PC: I said Emanator business.
LRH: Emanator. He's stuck in the Emanator business?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, you can audit him out of that, can't you?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Well, tell him to come up to present time.
PC: All right.
LRH: Can he?
PC: First thought I get on it is no, but I think it can be done.
LRH: Mm-hm. How about getting him to remember something absolutely real?
PC: (pause) All right.
LRH: Does he find something that's real to him?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Mm-hm. How about something else?
PC: (pause) No.
LRH: Can he find something else? What was the last real thing he got?
PC: Making an emanator.
LRH: Mm-hm. Overt act?
LRH: Mm-hm. Does he feel guilty about it?
PC: Yep.
LRH: Some other being now answering than him, huh?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How about letting him answer?
PC: All right.
LRH: Now, I'm going to address him very directly. You glad to be back here and off the rat race?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Do you recognize it was a rat race?
PC: I get a "yeah" on that.
LRH: Mm-hm. How do you feel? Did you know anybody else was here in this body?
PC: No.
LRH: Mm-hm. All right, let's rapidly check: How many others are here in this body?
PC: Twelve.
LRH: About twelve? Mm-hm. How many of those are supernumerary?
PC: (sigh)
LRH: How many of them could you just get rid of right this minute?
PC: About four or five.
LRH: Well, shell them out.
PC: Hm.
LRH: Don't want to?
PC: Just a sec.
LRH: Hm?
PC: It takes time.
LRH: It takes time. All right, go ahead. Kick them out.
PC: It's been a favorite one.
LRH: All right. What did you get?
PC: Seven.
LRH: Mm-hm, okay. What were the others from? Overt acts or something?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Which one was responsible for holding them in?
PC: What I got is center.
LRH: Mm-hm. Center wanted to accumulate them?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: The stomach soul wanted to accumulate them?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Right side wanted to accumulate them?
PC: No.
LRH: Left side wanted to accumulate them?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Well, there's some more of them around. Tell me is there another one here that has a body up there?
PC: No.
LRH: Don't find another one, huh? How about the right side? Does it have a body anyplace else than here?
PC: No.
LRH: No? Well, I guess we got you. Let's get somebody else.
[At this point there is a gap in the original recording. The demonstration resumes with a different preclear.]
[Booklet 17 says "SECOND DEMONSTRATION" at this point.]
LRH: Okay. You way back on the track?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How many million years?
PC: Oh, about fifteen, twenty.
LRH: Fifteen, twenty million years?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How about longer?
PC: Hm, could be.
LRH: She's way back. Which one of you is way back?
PC: Hmm ...
LRH: Center?
PC: No, about three of me.
LRH: About three of you is way back?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Notice that emanation, that wide hunt there? That's way back. It got pretty narrow by the time they got to this last show, last thirty-rhousand-year show. Well now, tell me, any one of these theta bodies - does it have a body elsewhere?
PC: Mm-hm, two.
LRH: Has two.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Which one of them?
PC: Which one of them what?
LRH: Which one of them has a body elsewhere?
PC: Two of them have.
LRH: Well, which two?
PC: Oh! The left inside and the right center, the right of center.
LRH: just to the right of center?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Okay, where is this left inside body?
PC: Sirius.
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, is it having a good time?
PC: Mm-hm. Always has a good time.
LRH: What do you know!
Anybody got a body of yours in pawn?
PC: No. (laugh)
LRH: Hm. That's the trouble with dames; they get exempt on these things a lot of times. (laugh)
All right. Well, how about Sirius, is it nice up there?
PC: Mm, could be better.
LRH: Mm-hm. Could be better. What's the planet's (snap) name?
PC: That's the only one I know about.
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, guess we're not going to get too much information here on the subject of. Are they all kind of stuck on the track someplace or other this way?
PC: Mm, those two are pretty well stuck.
LRH: just two are.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Well, can you free them up? Which is the first one that could be brought up to present time?
PC: The right of center one.
LRH: The right of center one, huh?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What's holding it back?
PC: The agreement to come here in the first place.
LRH: Oh. Can you click that?
PC: I've been trying all day.
LRH: What's the matter? Is it sorry it came here?
PC: Mm.
LRH: Not sorry enough.
PC: (laugh)
LRH: Did it come here because it's got another one here?
PC: Mm, got a couple of friends there.
LRH: Got a couple of friends there?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Mm-hm. Couple of your theta lines that are with you right now?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what if those left?
PC: Probably go too.
LRH: Well, which one of those won't go?
PC: The stomach one.
LRH: The stomach one won't go.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Why won't it go?
PC: It's happy, I guess.
LRH: Is it happy?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Mm-hm. Not unhappy. Hm, one big happy family.
PC: (laugh) Yeah.
LRH: Is that right? Evidently.
PC: I've got a nice somatic right here.
LRH: Oh, that one is putting up a protest.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Well, is that a man or a woman?
PC: Always women.
LRH: It's always women?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Mm-hm. Okay, what's the matter with that one?
PC: Doesn't want to be bothered.
LRH: Does it hurt somewhere? Hm?
PC: Doesn't want to be bothered.
LRH: Doesn't want to be bothered.
PC: Hm-mm.
LRH: And when you try to bother it, what's it do?
PC: Demonstrates it doesn't want to be bothered by acting up.
LRH: By doing what?
PC: By turning on a somatic.
LRH: Turning on a somatic? Why don't you move in on it and boot it out of that somatic? Come on, just move in on it and boot it out of that somatic.
PC: (pause) It's gone. The somatic has gone off
LRH: The somatic is gone. Bring it all the way up to present time.
PC: (pause) Something is blocking it.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Something's blocking it.
LRH: Something blocking it ...
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: ... from coming up to present time?
[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]
[Booklet 17 omits this brief demo and skips to the next one.]
PC: ... the tongue and stuff removed.
LRH: Hac vocal ... Oh, had your tongue torn out.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Hm, makes difficult communication in MEST bodies.
PC: Yeah, a little difficult.
LRH: Well, does it recognize that there is - does it have a home?
PC: No. It's sticking pretty close to the center ...
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: ... and follows it around.
LRH: Doesn't it have a home someplace else?
PC: Oh Yeah, of its own, but it hasn't been back in a long time.
LRH: Why can't it go back?
PC: Hm, kind of likes it where - being on the right of the center one.
LRH: Turned a somatic on.
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Doesn't make it very friendly.
PC: No, but if you have one that turns on the somatics, well, I'll leave it pretty much alone.
LRH: Mm-hm. Will leave it alone as long as it turns on ...
PC: Not after this: I'll get after it.
LRH: Okay. How do you feel now?
PC: Good.
LRH: Good?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Good. Okay.
[to audience] Somebody else here.
Male voice: Okay.
LRH: Okay. This gentleman has very kindly volunteered. Well, how are all "you all" tonight?
PC: Fine.
[Booklet 17 says "THIRD DEMONSTRATION" at this point.]
LRH: That's good. Let's get right down to the root of this matter. Which center are you running on? Which theta body are you running on?
PC: Right center.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Right center.
LRH: You're running on the right center? How about the center center?
PC: Sometimes.
LRH: How about the right side? Run on the right side?
PC: (mumble)
LRH: Mm-hm. Inboard right side? Outboard right side? Outboard right side?
PC: Inboard right side.
LRH: Inboard. Mm-hm. You sort of shift around, don't you?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Yeah. Any reason you have to? Can't your center be trusted? Can it be trusted?
PC: Sometimes.
LRH: Sometimes.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: When did it fail last?
PC: Which one?
LRH: Center.
PC: Which center?
LRH: Right here.
PC: Oh, the center one.
LRH: That's what I thought: sound asleep.
PC: For some time.
LRH: Yes. How about waking it up? Move over into it. Be it.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Got it? How does it feel?
PC: Pretty good.
LRH: Any somatic turn on?
PC: One that usually does when I try to shift over into it.
LRH: Oh, well, where does the somatic turn on?
PC: Through the center of the head.
LRH: Through the center of the head.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What part of the center of the head?
PC: TOP.
LRH: Through the top?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: That's the somatic that knocked it out? Is this Facsimile One - what we ve been calling Facsimile One - getting a camera turned at you, a band put around your head and bap-bap-bap?
PC: Could be it.
LRH: So how does the center like the noise whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap? Like this?
PC: Not too well.
LRH: Not too well. Well, are there three points up there on top of your skull or just one?
PC: Well, it's elongated.
LRH: Mm-hm, like the soft spot in a baby's head?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Oh. Is this a lock on Fac One?
PC: Mm.
LRH: Or is this before Fac One? Before? Earlier on the time track? Earlier.
PC: No.
LRH: Huh? Yeah. What did you do, get killed when you were a baby? Hit over the head or something? Fall out of your crib? Hit over the head?
PC: Hit over the head.
LRH: Hit over the head.
PC: Something like ...
LRH: What hit you over the head? Somebody hit you over the head?
PC: A mace.
LRH: Hm?
PC: A mace of some sort.
LRH: As a baby?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Did you hit a baby over the head with a mace? (audience laughter)
Did you?
PC: Could have.
Male voice: I doubt it.
PC: Yeah, I don't think so.
LRH: YOU better not know, had you?
PC: No. Now that doesn't ...
LRH: Mm-hm. This looks awfully between-lives to me all of a sudden.
That center got a body between lives?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: Is it alive?
PC: No.
LRH: Does it know?
PC: Can't know.
LRH: Can't know. How about the right side? Does it have a body between lives? How about the left side, does it have a body between lives?
Ahh, the left side, huh? Left side.
PC: Left side.
LRH: What is the viewpoint from that body? Take a look; step into the body and look. (pause)
PC: I have a hall of cylinders.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Seemingly, plastic cylinders.
LRH: Plastic cylinders, it sees some cylinders?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Is it standing or sitting or lying? What is it?
PC: More or less suspended.
LRH: Suspended.
PC: Mm-hm, upright.
LRH: Suspended upright?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: In a cylinder7
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Mm-hm. Are you inside the body looking, or are you outside looking at the cylinder7
PC: Well, I'm in a body looking at others.
LRH: Are you in your own body?
PC: Yeah.
LRH: You in your own body?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Looking at others. That body alive?
PC: More or less suspended animation.
LRH: See that still needle reaction? Well, that's exactly what that says, and exactly what that means: suspended operation. Go on, kick him to life. Go ahead, move. Move some more. Move enough to knock the cylinder down.
PC: Hm.
LRH: What happens?
PC: cylinder broke.
LRH: Okay. Now what happens? (pause) We'll give it a couple of minutes.
(pause) What happens now?
PC: Body died.
LRH: Hm?
PC: Body died.
LRH: Yeah. Feel bad?
PC: A little bit.
LRH: Does it feel bad?
PC: It, the body?
LRH: No, the theta body of it.
PC: Hm-trifle; it was sort of attached to it.
LRH: Mm-hm. Was it told that the body would be cared for?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: How long had that body been there?
PC: Thirty-five thousand, approximately.
LRH: About thirty-five thousand years. That's right. All right. Were you handled and controlled through that body?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: You just realize it?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Is it a good thing the body is there? Was it a good thing the body was there?
PC: No. Good thing it's in the condition it is now.
LRH: Good. What do you know? You have a little doubt on that yet? Did that side keep going back to the body all the time?
PC: No. Well, conflict there.
LRH: Conflict.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Are we talking to some other theta body now? There is another between-lives body here.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Which is the next between-lives body?
PC: Right outboard or something ...
LRH: Right outboard. Mm-hm. Right outboard. All right, this right-outboard body, where is it? Take a took at it.
All right, what's it look like?
PC: It seems like a blank cover.
LRH: Blank?
PC: Light coming in from the right.
LRH: Light coming in from the right. What is the light coming from, a window?
PC: Apparently. It seems like another tank, only this one's horizontal.
LRH: This one's a horizontal tank?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Well, is there a window there or a port that you look through or something?
PC: Right side is - of the tank apparently plastic. It's transparent.
LRH: What comes in through there? Anything? Light coming ...
PC: Light.
LRH: Anything else?
PC: Vibration.
LRH: Are you inside the body?
PC: I wasn't.
LRH: Let's slide in. How's it feel?
PC: Moist, I think.
LRH: Moist?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: What's the vibration like? Can you feel it?
PC: Mm-hm, slightly.
LRH: Mm-hm. What would happen if this body moved?
PC: Vibration would go off ...
LRH: Go ahead and move. Find out.
PC: Some clamps on it.
LRH: Some clamps on it?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Well ...
PC: Not exactly clamped down, but held.
LRH: It's held down.
PC: Little bit.
LRH: Well, can it struggle against them?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Go ahead, make a little struggle. (pause) What happens when you struggle?
PC: Vibration gets stronger at first.
LRH: Mm-hm. Struggle again. (pause) What's happening?
PC: Trying to move.
LRH: Good. Try to move it some more.
PC: I got the right foot free.
LRH: Got the right foot free. Go ahead, move it some more.
PC: (pause) Fluid seems to be going down.
LRH: Mm-hm. Move it some more. (pause) Make the grade? Can it get up?
Can't get up?
PC: Doesn't seem to be able to, no.
LRH: Mm-hm.
PC: Vibrations stop and the fluids drip out.
LRH: Mm-hm. Now what's happening?
PC: Body is rather - decomposing rather rapidly.
LRH: Hm, is it?
PC: Seems dead.
LRH: Much of a quiver to dying? Glad to die?
PC: In a way.
LRH: In a way.
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Not much emotion about it?
PC: Hm. No, it's apathetic.
LRH: Apathetic?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Is this theta-body line apathetic?
PC: Great degree.
LRH: Mm-hm. What it says here. All right, bring it back. Now ...
PC: Okay.
LRH: ... what's the sensation in that side?
PC: There was a tenseness or - all along the side of the hip.
LRH: Mm-hm. Is the tenseness still there?
PC: Slight degree.
LRH: Mm-hm. Tell it to come up to present time. It stuck someplace else than in this death?
PC: No.
LRH: Or is this a heck of an imposition, to knock it off and then have it come back here and tell it to be cheerful? Feel sad about that body being gone?
PC: It wouldn't help much.
LRH: Nope. Tell me something. Did they tell you originally that they'd really take good care of this body?
PC: Oh, yeah.
LRH: Has this side been reporting back there between lives?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Boy, this is that awful still needle, that you get on something like that. It - just been doing this for a long time, hasn't it?
PC: Mm-hm.
LRH: Would you consider this a rut?
PC: Rather deep.
LRH: Rather deep rut. Do you have to go through this rut anymore? Ask it if it has to go through this rut now.