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Chart of Havingness

Your Own Case: To You, The Student

A Lecture given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 18 December 1952A Lecture given by L. Ron Hubbard on the 18 December 1952

This is the second lecture of the afternoon of December the 18th, and we are continuing here on this chart of havingness.

This is the last lecture of the Philadelphia Lecture Series, and the name of this lecture is „Your Own Case.“ And this is addressed to you, the student. Not to your preclears.

Now you may think that I’m making too much… too much action here – a little bit too much randomity for you by giving you this material. But I’m giving you, in this lecture, an option between one and two things. I could simply process some people here, and I intend to do so but uh… this afternoon, but I want to have in circulation and in your hands enough material so that you can actually do some extrapolation – that’s a wonderful word, EXTRAPOLATION – people look in vain in dictionaries for this word EXTRAPOLATION – uh… it isn’t INTERPOLATION because that’s „find the point in between…“ Someone… and so let’s go out further and discover it.

You as a student are, we all know, a difficult case. And the reason you are difficult is we decided and agreed upon a long time ago in Dianetics that you were a difficult case because you knew all the answers yourself. Therefore no auditor could have any real altitude with you and you knew all the ways to dodge.

Uh… mathematics could be called extrapolation. it… it’s what you figure from, into. That’s just what we’re doing in present time, you see – it’s approximation. We’re predicting the havingness change and estimating the rate of change of havingness when we’re estimating the future.

Another thing, a fellow works it in this way sometimes, when he gets rather bad off and he said, „The only reason it is working upon me is because I have heard all about it. And I have agreed that it works, so it’s working on me. And then I don’t know whether it’s working on me or not and I don’t know whether I’m any better or not, and I don’t know…and I don’t know… and…“ the next thing you know he’s sitting right there on the Chart of Attitudes, „I don’t know“, what do you know! Apathy!

I want you to know about these thing’s because you can do some thinking on this basis and you will discover probably some very interesting material from this, because this is only a barely, slightly explored field. When we start to talk about time’s rate of change… time as a rate of change of havingness, or not-havingness…

Now, the way to get over this is to take the responsibility through these next periods of lecture, review when you’re hearing these tapes, having seminars, you as an individual take the responsibility for the fact that your fellow student knows what he is doing. Because not only you but the fate of what you’re interesting in, are in his hands.

Now therefore, its first and immediate value to you in therapy shouldn’t be overlooked. This is possibly the first analysis ever made of psychosis that is really a good solid mechanical analysis. Why is a psychotic always in the past? Your neurotic is, at best, in the present. And your people who are sane are doing very well in the future. They’re thinking into the future, consistently and continually, and it could be said that a man is really as sane as he can think into the future.

You perhaps can be more or less sure what you’re going to do with it, but can you be sure that he knows what he is doing with it? Let me inject that insidious question! Can you be completely competent yourself, and yet be the only competent auditor in your immediate area?

Why is this? That says, „A man is as sane as he can predict and estimate the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness.“ Hmm. As long as a man can predict the rate of change of havingness and not havingness, he is quite sane. And when individuals are unable to predict the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness, they are unable to predict. And are not sane. When they’re unable to predict it, they’re just unable to predict it, then it makes out of them what? An effect.

You might think that this is desirable from a standpoint of economics, you might think it’s desirable in numbers of ways, there is reverse vectors on this, and your best intentions sometimes might go awry. But, uh… let me ask a not insulting question. Can you be absolutely sure of his competence? Because till you can feel some confidence in his competence, you’re not a group. And you won’t have any security about being audited.

Now the rate of change of havingness and not havingness could be considered to be cause. Therefore, cause is motivated, then, in the future. Cause isn’t in the future, though, because this tells you that cause is flow and energy. Oh, nonsense! You can’t have time without, space, energy and objects. There isn’t any time without those items. And the most pertinent of those items are and the best estimation done on those items is rate of change of havingness of the… you… now you have this…

If you think there’s one person in this class who will never become a competent auditor, then you have not reached an optimum. And you have not made very sure that that auditor knows what he’s doing. That sounds like that’d introduce a lot of randomity. But that won’t introduce any randomity; what’ll introduce randomity is this: Trying to prove that you know and that he doesn’t.

Now let’s… let’s predict what’s going to happen tomorrow on the planet Xerxes. Can you… can you predict that? What’s going to happen tomorrow on the planet Xerxes? No, because you doesn’t have any havingness on Xerxes, that’s all. I mean, there isn’t any present time there, so how can you predict a rate of change there?

That’s the way homo sapiens goes about it, and look where he is! Try to prove that you know and he doesn’t. No, no. You’re not interested in proving that you know. You’re just interested in making sure that he does.

Rate of change – my God! How could you possibly predict a rate of change when you don’t even know what’s changing? So you couldn’t predict the future and as far as Xerxes is concerned, two conditions exist: You are not interested and it doesn’t immediately influence you; or, if interested, it again doesn’t influence you. So what?

You take that sort of an attitude, you won’t calmly let something go by the boards. There isn’t any reason why you should let anything go by the boards. There isn’t any reason why you or three or four of you shouldn’t take that auditor which you’re not secure in his knowledge, and back him up against the corner and make darn sure that he is. Of course you’re making the old deal that used to go on on the track a lot of the time; it’s on the basis of „Prove it! You’ve got to prove that you know. Proving that one knows is quite aberrative. Unless it applies to procedures which can be articulated with the ease that these procedures can be articulated.

Now it’s only when a person is interested in havingness of a present time that he can become non compos mentis with regard to that present time. A person must be interested in havingness to be insane. And by definition here in this universe, a person must be interested in havingness to be sane. You also must be interested in not-havingness to be sane. Hmm-hmm-hmm. Where are we going?

In order to get a block and tackle to work, one must know how to rig one. And in order to get a preclear up the scale, one must know the fundamentals of auditing so thoroughly that it becomes a completely automatic proposition, in a complete scale of knowingness with no automaticity. You either know data, or you don’t. There isn’t any half-way point about it, you either know what a cycle of action is or you don’t. Because the answers which have been dug up here are not vague answers. They… not talking about me, I’m just talking about this subject line. They are… they’re not vague answers. And if there’s a vagueness which exists, it was either a vagueness of communication, ‘cause a communication, to be a full communication, has to be received, or you’re fighting something that would make it seem non-survival to you to know that datum.

Uh… now, an unknown datum doesn’t disturb you a bit. The planet Xerxes, his state of government or what is going to be printed in a… publication there uh… tomorrow by some loose-moraled fellow doesn’t even vaguely interest you. And yet it’s an unknown datum.

In either one of these two lines, then, an auditor could fail. But he could mostly fail if he did not have confidence in his auditors. Not one man, not one girl, in this room, but has had the rather sorry experience of being part of a team of homo sapiens. College. High school. Your gang, and everything was going along fine, until all of a sudden you found out one day one… somebody was cutting your throat. Or you wore the old school tie, and you found out that the moment you were no longer in the old school, there wasn’t any team anymore.

And you’ll find your psychotic has gone mad because of an unknown datum. He doesn’t know what’s going to happen in the future. That uncertainty concerning the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness. He’s become so unsettled and so upset about it, he can’t predict it, that he’s become psychotic about it. And as long as he is…

You’ve gone through a continuous process of falling away from teams of various sorts or another, or seeing them break up. Seeing groups not reaching their goals. And it is no wonder that you would feel a disgust for groups of homo sapiens. But it would be every piece of curiosity in the world if you began to develop one as a group of auditors, who have, in your hands, all the skills to come up the tone scale and to be and to make good team mates.

You see where we’re going? Interest. Interest is the monitoring action. Where there is no interest, there isn’t any insanity. Of course, there’s also nothing.

You know it can be done all by yourself and by nobody else, by the way. You don1t need any help. And that, I know, is the best reason why you should have some team mates you can trust. Coming up all the way up the line, however, necessitates that at no time you will ever stumble or fall, in any way whatsoever. That precludes that… that you must not stumble or fall. Anywhere. You must get up the line, by your own bootstraps, and remain stable there, and then never one day blunder into a theta trap, or get into a parahelion around something or other, that has an undue field, and you can’t quite manage it and you get rattled. Something or other.

And so you get a… an interesting, but not monitoring or terribly sweeping, common denominator to past, present and future, and the state of mind with regard to them. And that… that is monitored by interest in it. „Do you care?“

No, no, there’s no great danger waiting on it. But there is this: If you weren’t perfectly confident in your own mind that you can progress and do the entire job of the reclamation of earth, or the reclamation of yourself, it doesn’t matter much which, if you’re perfectly confident that you are competent to do that, then you can. There isn’t any doubt about that. One man can do this whole job. Any one of you can do this job. I could do this job. It doesn’t have to be passed on. There’s no pressing necessity that it happens that way.

Uh… ah… the great Rabelais tells a fascinating story whereby two characters were in battle and everybody is sweating and streaming blood and… and uh… brawling, and… and these armies are crashed together and interlocked, and it’s toe to toe and slug, slug, slug. And… and… and these two characters, for some reason or other, to catch their breath, withdraw a short distance and uh… climb a little hill. And they look down in the valley and they see these little tiny figures down in the valley. And they’re just moving like little tiny dolls, and it becomes so unimportant to them that they begin to laugh. And they laugh very heartily about it and, of course, just stretch out in the sun and that’s the end of the battle as far as they’re concerned.

But there’s two factors that enter in. One, it’s more fun when one has fellow members of the group trying to accomplish a common goal. And two, there’s a lot more certainty in it. A lot more certainty.

You want to know why theta clearing can suddenly produce such a change of viewpoint in an individual, I’m afraid it’s contained in that data that I’ve just given you. Estimation of the rate of change of havingness is either interesting or very interesting or terribly interesting or, „Oh, my God! We’re lost unless…“ And that’s being… everything is serious and important.

Now, when you look over this situation, you’ll find out that s… a lot of group activities are quite limp. One of the group activities that’s most limp is trying to group audit, with mock-ups. It’s bad, because the variation from preclear to preclear is bad. And some guy there is going to become invalidated or upset. He’s… he’s invalidated by your commands because he can’t accomplish them. Group auditing is… is kinda weak. Individual auditing isn’t.

Now what is… what does ‘serious’ and ‘important’ mean? ‘Serious’ and ‘important’ are words put down to „interest is intense because of penalty.“ And you could say „importance is an interest… an intense interest because of penalty, and it is as intense as the penalty is envisioned to be intense.“ That man who can not be made to feel any pain from hunger, rain, snow, ice or the other things they have in the post office department, he, you see, wouldn’t be able to feel any penalty – unless it were the penalty of being bored and that is a penalty itself.

Uh… there are other group activities. There are group political activities. Other activities are kind of weak. Uh… and a group is as weak as the individual finds a scarcity and finds he must have. Or must not have. That’s the weakness of a group. Havingness. Spoils the time duration of the group. Because the time duration of the group cannot be made to depend upon MEST. It must depend upon the top of the scale. And that of course has no great time duration. It doesn’t have much havingness.

Boredom, however, is just not a state of inaction. It is a state of idle action, vacillating action, where penalties are yet in existence. And where they are great. But a state in which one has decided he can’t really do anything about them, it’s just a high-toned apathy. And it… it… there’s a certain insouciance that comes along with boredom; there’s a flippancy.

A group can own a great deal, so long as the individual members of that group here and there through the group do not have as their sole and only goal, pronoun-capital – I alone must have. „I want the power of the group, I want this, I want that.“ You have to feel that way, you see, if you haven’t got confidence in the rest of the group. If you can’t have confidence in the competence of your fellow auditors, then you have the necessity of taking the job on your own back.

Now what, then, is ‘sanity’? Well, let’s rate it there… It would be „unable to predict the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness with regard to one’s interest in those things which are changing, and with regard to the penalty which one believes may accrue from not being interested in those things. That’s a clumsy definition. It will come down in size and shape. But let’s look at it again: It… It’s… ‘sanity’, then, is monitored by what one can gain balanced by how much one can be punished because of have and have-not, and the unpredictableness of the changes which might take place in have or have not.

So it’s to every single, slightest good end in yourself to make sure that the members of your group are competent. That they are able. And that they are high enough up the tone scale so they do not have to have. So they cannot and do not run into that horrible cul-de-sac „I am the only one who must be,“ and they’re the only one who can control. The only place where that condition of mind exists is above the middle of the band. A group on earth is on a decrease spiral, homo sapiens. A decrease end of the spiral. They seldom increase any. You want to go up and run the spiral backwards up into the increase band, and if you want to do that, then don’t get somebody nailing down everything in sight, and cross-currents, and putting out bad information. ‘Cause if they bring you bad information, they’ll take bad information away about you. Believe me, believe me, it’s true.

The goal of a static is to be a static. The goal of an ‘all motion’ is to go in all motion. And as we see the interplay of a static against all motion, we find out that we have a theoretical point of action halfway between these bands where the penalty could exist, but would not sweep away all, where havingness is not the most important thing.

My grandma had a statement like that. She used to say if a dog will bring o… a bone, he’ll take one away. If people are easily stampeded, or people are easily upset about this and that, they aren’t just, quote, basically weak, and therefore to be abandoned at the nearest crossroads. Their case is in a hell of a condition. And that’s about all you can say about it.

Now havingness becomes more and more important to the psychotic until he will give away anything, or he will take and hold on to everything. And he thinks… objects and words and everything else. So his interest is terribly aberrated. And his belief in pain is terribly aberrated, and if you get somebody who is very psychotic, they’ve either abandoned the body to a point where anything could happen to it, or the tiniest little scratch is regarded by them as destruction beyond destruction beyond destruction.

Now, there isn’t an auditor here, there isn’t one here, that could not become sufficiently competent, aesthetically, rationally, to do the highest level of job that can be done in these United States. There isn’t one who couldn’t do that. And the only reason that couldn’t happen is if the other members of that group did not make absolutely sure about it. It could happen that people of this group could fall short of that goal. And the only way they can fall short of it is that the other members of this group didn’t make sure he could. So then that tells you that each member of the group could, if he makes sure that anybody in the group could. And makes it his concern that the rest of the group can.

So, uh… theta clearing just side-steps the whole problem by deintensification of havingness; and by almost completely eradicating the penalty of not having, or the penalty of having. It is not a retirement from the lists; it is not an abandonment of anything. But it is an ability to come into the control and ownership of things, and therefore a person’s stability as a theta clear would depend upon, yet, their interest and evaluation as pertained to their body and – what Freud called the ‘alter-ego’ – all the other possessions of the body, like the family and uh… uh… the car and all that.

It’s all very well to stand as little island universes. A single candle in the middle of a huge, huge room can be an artistic thing. But it’s also an awful lot of dark in that room too. And that room’d look pretty good, if there were a half a hundred candles in it. Would look a lot better if there were half a thousand. Up to about a certain level, it becomes too many candles, aesthetically. It does. And there isn’t any reason why this subject has to be passed on and on, and people trained and trained and trained in this subject until we have hundreds of millions of auditors.

A little light begin to break through on this.

We don’t even vaguely want hundreds of millions of auditors. How many universes do you want to control simultaneously, for heaven sakes? What kind of a thirst would this be? Probably there is a natural tolerance level for this much action in the field of knowledge, in terms of numbers of people applying same. I’m afraid that is the case. It doesn’t mean that there’s the sheep and the goats; it just means that you push a certain balance forward and it’ll hit it after a while.

But the funny part of it is, we can’t subtract anything from this universe because of this doggoned rate of change of havingness. This universe will either blow up or solidify one way or the other, if one were to subtract from it, out of any one of its equations, let’s say this: One, two, three, four, six, seven and eight – and leave five. He wouldn’t go, would he?

And what is it? A guy per planet? A guy per town? What is it? It’ll… It’ll hit, somewhere along the line. It’s got a chance of doing that, only If you become responsible for the group. Because it can’t be a group unless every member in that group is responsible for the whole group.

Or, the universe, if he did make it, would blow up, on what subject? The fifth dynamic. You’ll find, then, that inequalities of interest and an unbalanced state of interest on the part of the preclear – that is why we’re interested in „can’ts“ – resolve down to an inability to draw out in a balanced state. He’s got to take all eight dynamics out of the equation if he’s going to leave this universe – all eight – simultaneously. The universe’ll never miss him.

Somebody comes around to you, and they say, „You know, there’s an auditor that – down the street… and so forth… I understand that uh… class so-and-so, Scientology, and… and we understand… and… and… class…“ You see, you’ve got a wide open field. You’re not up against Dianeticists. There are a lot of Dianetic auditors around. You’re not being rated as Dianetic Auditors. You’re being rated as Scientologists. That’s something else. I don’t care how snide anybody gets, I don’t care how snide I get when I drape a flag to the effect that it doesn’t work.

But if he tries to take all eight except two out – nnohhh! It’s not just going to miss him, I… it’s not going to let him go because, you see, the universe seems to represent a havingness and have-not-ness. It… it… it, to some degree, owns your preclear. Every time he has a line to it, it has a line to him. So any time he says, „Well, I’m just fine except for the second dynamic. I still seem to want this sensation from these bodies, and so forth. They’re a disgusting thing, these bodies, but second dynamic – hummm!“

Uh… the point is that you’re not into that level of competition. You couldn’t be into any level of competition at all, because there is no competition. There is no end of cannon-fodder. For your auditing phrases. No end of it. Any more than there’s an end of mock-ups. But there is this, there is this: There’s somebody coming to you and saying „That Scientologist down the street, so-and-so, and such-and-such, did this and did that.“ And such a thing as you having a pretty good idea maybe that Scientologist did. Beautiful girl, quiet auditing room, nobody else there… maybe he did. I don’t advise you to go against every mores and that sort of thing, and support such a horribly terrible story as that… might have some slight grain of truth, all I ask you to do is to look at this preclear and say, „You happen to be talking about a member of my class.“ Boy, do they get propitiative in a hurry. They’ll probably give you an extra five!

It… it… it doesn’t just mean that your preclear is holding on, because it means that there’s a great big cable around his neck and it’s got him nailed down to a stake. And as long as he thinks he has to be in this universe in order to indulge that sensation, as long as he has to have something else to undo it besides himself, oh boy!

That’s right. It’s… uh… bad medicine. Because the greatest of degradation is brought about by this mechanism: You get a member of the group to degrade himself by going against the remainder of the group. And then that degrades the whole group, and therefore the group is shattered. So regardless of the irrationality, and regardless of the fact that you have ample precedent for not supporting anybody in the group, go ahead and support ‘em! That’s all there is to it, I mean it’s very simple.

Now, you see, he is four parts, as e homo sapiens. And so when it comes to subtracting the thetan from the body, he has to have a body with which to enjoy other bodies, he thinks, at the state he’s in. Now let’s draw it up a little further and demonstrate to him that he doesn’t have to have other bodies; he doesn’t have to have a body of his own in order to procure this sensation from other bodies; it isn’t necessary for him to have a body of his own. He can just take it off of any body any place. „Well,“ that fellow says, uh… „that’s great!“ Your preclear is still nailed down in this universe, because every one of those bodies will put a line on him for every line he puts on them.

You don’t have to have a precedent, an overt act-motivator combination, you don’t have to find out that there’s a fellow who… who was a part of your class, and was a friend of yours, and was that… part of that group, that is saying this and saying that and doing this and doing that, and that it’s all wrong. You… you found that out, yes, he was, he was doing that, yes, he is doing that right at this minute, and somebody comes along and says to you „…and you’re no good ‘cause you’re so on and so on and so on…“ I mean, so what they’re really saying is „You’re no good,“ uh… and it… when they say so-and-so, and you say, „Well, that’s… that’s up to him. That’s up to him. But at the same time, I think it’s perfectly all right.“

And uh… that’s how he came down tone scale in the first place.

They say, „Why you degraded being! How could you possibly think such a thing?“

So, we have to then shift it over to ‘own universe’, and he has to be able to mock up a havingness or not-havingness on any one of the dynamics, and particularly where interest is involved. He has to be able to create anything he is interested in and continue an interest in it in order to get rid of MEST universe havingness and not-havingness. And nobody’s recommending to you, really, that you get rid of this havingness and not-havingness in the MEST universe.

„I don’t know. Maybe it’s because uh… I have a right to think that too. And maybe it’s ‘cause you don’t have any right to think anything about it at all. So the fellow hung up advertising signs twenty feet high, all along the side of that building. Well, I might think it’s wrong, but you haven’t got any right to think it’s wrong.“

But I’m just telling you that the interest monitors it, and that is monitored by one’s belief that it only exists – the other thing, scarcity, in this universe – that there’s a penalty in leaving the universe, and the penalty of leaving would be the penalty of not any more having something, ugh… You see?

„Oh, gee!“ Terrible approaches.

All right, this universe is rigged this way: Every time you want something in this universe, you can’t have it. If you really want something, long enough and often enough on an outflow for it, it, of course, if you do get it, it’ll disagree with you. And so it’s a dwindling spiral operation, and by electronics this goes down… As we were talking about very interestingly the other day, this DC flow problem. There could be no DC flow; if you changed viewpoint as fast as you changed polarity, you would think you saw a DC flow. Now, that’s very good – that’s very good. A fellow in class mentioned this – very interesting. But if you insisted there was such a thing as a DC flow and never changed your viewpoint, you would have to have lower and lower and lower and lower potentials. And the… the lower the potential, why, you get another flow, and then you get a lower potential and you get another flow to it, and then you get a lower potential and you get another flow to it. And there’s, of course, no place to go but bottom, and it’s mud from there on down.

I’m not trying to ask you to do anything that you would not do of your own determinism, I’m just trying to point out to you that as you float along on an island universe basis, detached by Lord knows how many light-years, one from another, that it can be a long track and a dark room. Because there is our first consideration: The case. Your case.

Now if you got a… a viewpoint which decided that your potential was going to go up all the way, it would have to be a negative gain, and you would have to continue the negative gain. As long as you continued this, you’d go on up tone scale and out the top. But you would have to do it on all eight dynamics. This is not very… not very difficult. This is… this works out automatically. This is inherent in the techniques which have been proposed – inherent.

And you know, it’s a shockingly low number here, in terms of results, and I know you haven’t had much time. But do you know how long it takes to make a theta clear out of fifty percent of the people? Takes about twenty minutes. If you really got the horsepower on, and you know what you’re doing. About fifty percent. It doesn’t take any time. There isn’t any time to it. You de-have the guy, and of course that reduces time. Did you ever figure that out? I mean, you’ve taken away an awful lot of MEST, suddenly, so it… of course it couldn’t take any time.

Now let’s look over here at this chart again, and we find the rate of change of havingness – and of course, and uh… we’ll put this plus and minus – meaning havingness and not-havingness – the rate of change of this determines… determines randomity; and that’s what randomity is. You’ve been asking for a lot of definitions for randomity: Randomity would best be described as the rate of change of havingness and not havingness. This is randomity.

One day you’ll find yourself auditing for five hours and have been gone for fifteen minutes. I mean it… it isn’t uh… a joke I’m trying to put over on you. I… I’m just talking about that, I talk of this in a very extreme fashion. I talked in this extreme fashion for years, of reducing people’s time on them. That’s a mean trick! Of giving them too optimistic a result. That’s a mean trick. Up to the time when you accumulate sufficient overt acts to get a reverse vector, to push a whole show across when you’ve got a full package, and get it on its way.

And if you want lots of rate of change, you want lots of randomity. If you want lots of randomity, you get lots of rate of change of havingness and not-havingness. You decide, „Well, now let’s see. We’re going in… going into a lot of action. We’re going to choose out these teams to fight, and that means…“ And what are you going to get? Oh, boy! You’re going to get loss and gain on an unpredicted level – every time. Of course, you get mired down in a universe which is operating, or an area that is operating all but automatically. No-ho. Any… almost anything you do in it sets up these automatic reactions. Automaticity is really there. Automaticity is there to such a degree that you cannot regulate the interdependencies of the eight dynamics and as a result the eight dynamics and all eight dynamics are to be found in any particle of this universe, no matter what form the thing takes, you’ll find all eight. It isn’t just that you find all eight in a man.

And everybody who’s done an overt act, that is still standing down in the sticks, you see, everybody who’s done an overt act, and said a mean thing, got everything all upset, and here’s… demonstrations, and activity, and all this sort of thing going on in every hand, oh boy, do you get support! That’s a fact. Why don’t you try it out some day. For twenty-four hours make people do overt acts against you. How do you make them do it; Just be over-optimistic. Go around and say, „Well, you will be all right,“ and „Ha ha! I guess there’s nothing wrong with you! I mean… ha ha!“ „You say you got a toothache? Well, that’ll be fine, that’ll be fine.“ You just look at them, they Grrrrrind! Grrrow! Snarl.

And that ‘all eight’ is your octahedron of filling space – just as an aside comment. Putting it into space, characteristics as well as particle characteristics, because, you see, your octahedron is not a particle characteristic at all. It’s what you would, quote, ‘fill space with’, it would be the forms which fill space.

They’ll do plenty of overt acts against you. Because a criticism unspoken, to most people, is an overt act, and they don’t realize it. They just think a criticism, and they’ve done an overt act. They’re that wobbly on their pins. That’s the truth.

So you’re not going to do any grand job of pulling your preclear out if he still has, and you do not know about, something that nails him down good and hard on this tone scale. What is that tone scale? As that tone scale descends it is ARC, it’s a lot of other things. Something else more important to you – it’s time. It’s one’s belief in his ability to predict the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness. And at 1.5 one has lost his ability to not-have. See, it’s an ability. He’s lost his ability to not-have, so he has to have everything, and that gives you a terrific hold, and that gives him this enormously strange attitude toward all these various things.

Now there isn’t a tough case present. There isn’t a tough case present. I’ve looked over this series of cases here, and this is very very… we’ve all agreed that people shouldn’t know this subject to be audited by it very neatly, we’ve all agreed to that very thoroughly, but there isn’t a tough case anywhere in this room! That’s the truth!

Now, what happens at 1.1? This person has lost his ability to have and he’s doing a terrific dispersal… pardon me, at 1.0 fear, uh… he’s doing this terrific dispersal and it’s all ‘not-have, not-have, not-have, not-have, not-have’ – see? He’s lost his ability to have.

I look around here, and I spotted two or three cases as being rough. And in the course of this, of asking them a question here, and talking to them there, and listening to them some place else I’ve spotted every one of those cases. I don’t mean to eavesdrop. But I spotted every single one of them.

Now let’s go down tone scale, and we’ll find somebody in grief, and we find they’ve again recovered a little ability to have and not-have, and . then they went into grief on it, and we find somebody who has lost their ability again to not-have. Now what… in mock-ups. Well, how do you find this person? This person will be in the strange and wonderful manifestation of just… just not-having. This person can’t stand a ‘not-having’ and now can’t stand it because his interest is so intense in having, and the values he assigns and the penalties which could accrue to him as a result of not-having are so exaggerated that, of course, he can let go of nothing.

Uh… for instance we have a boy over here, you don’t mind my mentioning it, all he’s got to be given… all he needs is a little black and white control, that’s all. Spot control. I audited him too heavy one afternoon, standing over there, wondering if he could take it. Practically shut his mock-ups off. Put a tire down the manhole cover, and a few other things. You could still throw him through on standard mock-ups. He kept seeing two bands of light through a dark field – isn’t that right?

So what happens when you get somebody who is in grief on the tone scale? Why, it’s very interesting to find that all you have to do is run Step Four and there you are, he’s… he’s… you’ll cure him of it – Step Four. And that is Flow Balancing. It cures his ability to not have.

Voice: That’s right.

So all the way up the tone scale you’re just curing people of their abilities to have, alternately, and not have with mock-ups. You… you can’t upset the rate of change of this universe, but you’re not actually working with energy. Your preclear isn’t energy. He’s a capability of producing energy – a space to put it in. So as long as you work with this material on the mock-up side, he goes right on up tone scale.

All right, what do you do with those two bands of light through a dark field? Have him start mocking up communication beams someplace and tying knots in them. Just give him more bands of light. He’s worried because of two bands of light. Give him six to worry about. Real tough, isn’t it? Sounds tough. And un… unfortunately, that is exactly what toughness is, high on the scale. We. we don’t… we find ourselves unable to handle one area, and so instead of doing the natural cycle thing, and reducing the area we’re trying to handle, we just double the size of the area. That’s the way theta works. You don’t find out, „Well, how many times in your life have you decided, „Well, let’s see, I couldn’t handle so-and-so and so-and-so; I guess I’d better handle just a little bit less.“ And then the first doggone thing you know, you couldn’t handle that less! What if you’d said… what if you’d said, „All right, now let’s see, I don’t seem to be able to do this, where’s two of them?“ And yet, that’s processing in present time.

Why? You’re changing his ideas. Thinking, then, actually develops to itself – I told you a little earlier, what one devotes energy to, one has. Or what one devotes energy to, one not has. You devote energy to getting rid of something and that means you’ll have it, or devote energy to having it and that means you… it’ll… you’ll lose it.

I recommend it to you very thoroughly. You can’t crack this case, you say. Find a couple of worse ones! Go next door, and crack that morgue there, and see what you can do! Loss of Time Magazine misquotes me as saying that it revives the dead and dying. So I guess we’ll just have to revive the completely dead! Of course… course I don’t recommend… I don’t recommend going in with the… starting with the magazine, ‘cause… I… I… I have some respect for your aesthetics! Things can be dead, and things can be DEAD!

Uh… you get an object in other words, which is the reverse vector of what it’s supposed to be, and what do you get here? You get a person’s future track getting solid. That sounds funny to you, but you see, in view of the fact there is no future, he’s changed his rate of change of havingness and he looks at the future and the future itself has taken on a solidity.

But the point is that you… you go in reverse, you see? You… you’ve decided already, long time since, that it was rough handling a MEST body; you’ve got a preclear who’s fairly convinced that it’s tough, and you’ve got him out there, and he’s apparently a stable theta clear, but he. he gets kind of anxious about handling this body; he knows he can only do one thing at once. He knows this. He knows it completely. I don’t know, let him go down the street and work two bodies at once. „Oh, no,“ you say, „no, this isn’t the right road out. This couldn’t be. That’s just more quantity, that’s…“ Ok, I’m afraid that is the road out.

Now this person can’t change his postulates. Why can’t he change his postulates? They’re bogged into energy. He’s making them inside of created energy and he has… he’s actually operating in a more or less solid area when he’s thinking. He’s pushing particles around, so he can’t change his postulates, of course. And any preclear that you get ahold of is going to be unable to some degree to shift his postulates readily. And as a net result, as long as he can’t shift his postulates, he can’t, of course, change his attitude toward anything. And as long as his mind is banked in on the idea that ‘this future is solid’ over here in area ‘Z’, as long as that thing is solid, he’s tried continually to inhibit or advance the rate of change, and it didn’t shift on him. So he… he gets something solid that doesn’t change and this is a mock-up – a symbol for the future. This piece of energy, solid. It’s almost like matter after a while, and you… you’ll find this manifestation very solidly.

And you say, „That case can’t be cracked,“ sigh, because it isn’t a tougher case! You actually don’t have a representative strata of tough cases in this room. I’m not being… I’m not joking now, you just don’t have ‘em. I’ve seen some roughies! I know of one, two, mock-up instabilities here that I would call difficult, a little bit difficult, for an auditor. And they go on the basis of the black spot, the white spot, and you just work with that. That’s all. A little bit difficult. Take a little time. When I say difficult, take a little time. Standard process. But I don’t know three! And I don’t know a six. There isn’t a six here. And there wouldn’t be a seven here anyhow. But there isn’t a six present.

What do you do, then, with the future? If you can find the f… By the way, look around yourself and… and say, „When I predict something or try to predict something, which way do I look?“ All right, now let’s ‘see’ your future in that direction. Take a look and see if you see your future in that direction, or see what you’ve tried to see in the past, or what you normally run into when you try to see your future. And now turn it red, then turn it blue. Then turn it green. Then turn it white. And then make it get bigger. Then make it get smaller.

Aw, that’s a hell of a note. Reverse vector’ll make somebody say here, „Well, yes, there is, I must be.“ But the point I’m making is, you don’t have an adequate starting level here. You haven’t got enough to go around. So be careful of ‘em. Conserve ‘em!

I’m just giving you the exercise.

Now you’ve seen some example of processing, and I should have given you a lot more processing, I should have audited a lot more of these people. One of the reasons I didn’t is I kept looking at you and you’re all in good shape. You’ve had a lot of Dianetics, had a lot of this and that. Well that… there is… wasn’t any point in it! But let me count up the number of hours that it would have taken. Not an optimistic estimate.

Now put it behind you. Now put it into shape of a corkscrew – and that’s G-torsional future havingness now. And turn that purple, and then turn it black. And now put it down here at the corner of the lecture platform. Now tie it up into a bow and put it in a box with a lavender ribbon. Because that’s not your future. That’s a bunch of energy that you’ve gradually built up in an effort to predict the rate of change of havingness. You keep throwing toward rates of change of havingness a certain amount of energy and every single bit of this energy has the artificial and abstract mark on it: ‘future’. And it’s not future energy; it’s present time energy.

I’d… you know, there is a sly insouciance of malice that has run through quite a little bit of this. Sometimes I have blandly stood and told an auditor, „Look, you’ve had the guy in there a whole hour. What’s the matter with you?“ And then you know what? I knew very well he couldn’t crack the case in thirty hours. But he probably could in thirty hours If he applied himself. „… whole hour,“ I’ve said. And then find myself faced with the necessity of doing just that! Oh, no!

And as we look down this track here we find out that finally the area of ‘Z’ gets solid and is very easily mistaken for the area of ‘Y’, and then that gets very easily mistaken for – because you see these are all solid objects – the area of ‘X’. You see that?

I used to shoot circuits on cases just out of desperation. That was one of the reasons… one of the ways I started in shooting circuits. And that’s a very interesting process. You take a guy who can’t see, and he hasn’t got anything at all, and you make him feel better suddenly by simply clipping a circuit out, by realizing he must have this circuit. How do you know what circuit it is? No meter’ll tell you. There are too many circuits to classify them, how do you know? Well – go on to another subject…

So a psychotic, of course, becomes unable to differentiate on the rate of change of havingness because the future is solid; therefore the future is the present; and of course, the only real solidity there is is the past, so naturally it follows he must be in the past. And he is in the gradient scale of these particles which you – many of you… How many of you observed those particles, by the way? Quite a few of you, in other words. There… there is some direction there. Uh… there… there is a mass there somewhere. You just work it, just like you work any other item that you have around.

But I’m not being this… I’m not being malicious, when I tell you that you haven’t enough tough cases to go around, because you simply haven’t, and I haven’t got a… I’m not trying to show you what’s being done elsewhere by telling you that in England this deep into the class we had advanced tougher cases than you are, further. Maybe it’s just because you’re too easy.

Uh… you… you have this… this? A lot of your preclears have this. Well, you… you’ve got this, then, a deposit. Now remember that that could be a ‘not have’ deposit. „In the future I won’t have. In the future I won’t have. In the future I won’t have. In the future I won’t have. In the f…“ and all of a sudden, why you haven’t got it. You haven’t got those particles. They’re right there but you haven’t got them. They all got a ‘future’ tag on them, and this says „This is the future and you are about to be butchered by this“ and you know you are perfectly in control of that mass of energy? That’s yours. And by deducting that mass of energy you’re doing the same thing as a mock-up, because you added that to this universe. Therefore, you’re quite at liberty to subtract it.

I imagine it would take somewhere in the neighborhood to get a thetan exterior s… here, it’d probably take me somewhere in the neighborhood of about fifty hours of auditing, to get this whole class. Probably. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of about two hundred hours of auditing to get theta clears for this whole class. Something like that.

Now there is where, evidently, your individual goes down tone scale and those levels on the tone scale could be mathematically adjudicated to be on the… units of energy which had become a solid deposit, with the label ‘future’ on them.

I’ve been struggling and messing around, with one or two cases, but… but I’ve just been messing around with them. I do that with friends of mine. I… I’m… I’m very bad that way. Take some poor trusting individual, uh… I know exactly what the case wants, I know exactly what the case needs, but I don’t happen to be working on that at the time! I worked on that last… last month. And I say „all right, so and so and so and so,“ and it… there’s also this stress. They sometimes will dive in with enormous confidence, into doing something weird because I ask them to do it – they figure out it probably is doable. That’s not always true! But they always do it, isn’t that funny?

How many units of energy have a solid uh… that are in this solid deposit have the label of ‘future’ on them? And you get, then finally, how many… how many uh… units… how much mass is there there. You’re down to 1.5. Boy, that 1.5, „Huh’ The future’s solid.“ He can’t afford to not have in the future so all of his thinking is being devoted not to constructive action as it goes forward, but very destructive action. And he is thinking all the time „Let’s see, I’m holding on to the present here. I’m holding on to the present. Well, I can hold on to the present“ – he’s demonstrated that to himself – therefore, all these not-haves, not-haves, not-haves, not-haves, – and anybody walks in ‘not-have’ – anybody walks up to him, he doesn’t want them. Anything else walks up to him he doesn’t want them. If he decides this, you see, he immediately takes hold of them. Reverse vectors – because he’s a great… he’s a victim of flows, so he winds up by having everything bad and everything good, and he says this is all future. And it’s solid mass.

I… I run into very few can’ts. But here… here we have techniques which are essentially so easy, you haven’t found it out yet. You just haven’t found this out yet, that’s all, to the degree that you could find it out. A lot of you know that there… must be fairly simple, but you’ve got theory and you haven’t got it digested at all; a lot of the information’s lying around sort of like big lumps of dough, and uh… you haven’t shifted it from the right side to the left side and turned it red and blue yet! That’s all.

So the future is solid. In Pogo, it says, „Which way is Tuesday?“ and he’s been told very, very emphatically, „Right in front of your face!“ Now that’s… that’s uh… quite pertinent.

And you’re liable to sit down, and look at some fellow who’s… your first thought’s liable to be „I wonder why he’s trusting me!“ Or when you’re on the couch, you say, „I know very well he was sitting right there in the same room and he doesn’t know any more about this than I do!“ Well, if you don’t want to, if… if you want to… to fool around with this information, that is up to you. It’s up to you what you can do with this. Aside from auditing, I leave to your imaginations…

Here we have, then, the ‘X, Y, Z’ where ‘Y’ would be your present time. And that’s why people begin to believe in linear time, and why their facsimiles begin to haul up and park in quote ‘present time’ because obviously the future is solid, so when you start to address the future, you’re addressing a solid object, obviously. And when you’re addressing this solid object called ‘the future’… You see, he devoted all this energy to thinking about the future, and all that energy is still there in the deposit. And the solider that gets the more it gets like present time. And you’ll get these people saying, as they st… just start down the tone scale „Well, things’ll be pretty much the same in the future as they are now.“ Conservatism. „Everything’s going to be the same as it is now. Nothing’s going to change.“

But I would not mess around any auditor here with any of the cases here. I really wouldn’t. It isn’t that you’re dealing with precious cases, or these cases couldn’t be solved, one way or the other, if you did louse them up. It’s that the results you’re getting are not very satisfactory to you. Your preclear has a half-gone idea already, if he’s a student here in this class, that what’s going to happen he knows it’s going to work, kinda, more or less, he hasn’t realized it’d work like that, kinda, because an intellectual… you haven’t gone into an action yet. You’re auditing somebody who knows more or less what to expect. And which way it’s gonne to go. He’s liable to find… you’re liable to find special randomities in him, such as he realizes he must take all this seriously for him to do any good. Of course you couldn’t more patently reverse a vector if you tried!

What you’re… you’re going to have a rough time with these people unless you know what I’m telling you now. You’re going to have a rough time getting somebody to change a little bit. You’ll be puzzled as to why this preclear won’t change. Well, this preclear won’t change because this preclear can’t change because he knows he’s sitting right there looking at the future. If you were to put a meter on it you would find out that this future was uh… so many ergs of energy, and it was a deposit, and therefore it was a piece of matter. And when he becomes quite psychotic, that piece of ‘future’ has be… he becomes neurotic, the piece of future is the present, because the present is solid. And he… he has to think somewhere in that… that band there. He starts thinking with facsimiles, as I showed you on that graph, that wheel. He thinks with facsimiles; he doesn’t think with postulates.

But he can still take it all seriously, and it will still work. Don’t doubt that. What I would do, if I were you, advice on a situation, is to use Standard Operating Procedure Issue V, use One, direct exteriorization, Two, by beams, Three, spacation, Four, flow balancing, Five, black and white spot control. And I’d test around on these things and I’d test your preclear up for the automaticity of his mock-ups. And every once in a while you’ll find somebody going by who has uh… such a terrific jiggle on any consistency that they’re shocked to death to find out that they can’t get a simple black spot. When they can get a whole army marching neatly in rows up the road.

He doesn’t think „Let’s see“; he doesn’t uh… he doesn’t even say this to himself: „Let’s see, how do I want things?“ No-no. That’s way up. He says, „There will be light. Umm, that’s nice: light. Umm-hmm, enjoy this motion for a while. Well, we can enjoy this. Let’s put some darkness in there,“ and there we go.

That’s because just them has to get that black and white spot, no circuits pick it up or anything, it’s just them. That’s all that’s going to get it. There are no marines that can be called on from the year umpty-umph dash umph, that will suddenly turn up in the form of automatic buttons long since installed by this same preclear and do, by experience, this whole thing. Uh-uh. It’s just a black spot. That’s all. And buttons won’t turn it on and off. They go jiggle, zoom, zong, crash. They don’t tell it when to move at the right time. Highest level of precision there is. It’s a black spot. You might think a white spot is but a white spot isn’t anything. A white spot is known area. And a black spot may have something in it, and it may not. It is unknownness which may or may not contain something. It has no light in it. And so you can’t tell. Guy can handle a black spot, he can handle anything.

Now when he gets quite neurotic, the present time, the ti… the energy he’s devoted to present time and trying to keep everything stable in present time, he knows he can’t predict anything out here about the future because he’s got the future right here. And the more he changes these things which are right in front of his face, the more horrible things happen to him as he goes forward into – what future has he substituted for the future? He’s made a time deposit that is a havingness, right there in front of him, and then he tries to change that instead of changing his conditions. Because the conditions which he tries to predict along all eight dynamics demonstrate to him to convince him that they are unchangeable and that they’re inevitable and that the gods do it and he doesn’t do it and nobody does it, that the rate of change, the interrelationship is, of the eight dynamics, unchangeable – by him, but is inevitable and just continues anyway.

If you could handle a black spot completely, and make the thing expand, three-dimensionally, into a sphere, and spread over the whole body, and then contract to a small black billiard ball on the top of your head, and then go out in front and then stay consistently out in front, and then gradually and quietly and without any effort whatsoever expand as a whole sphere, and cover your whole body again, and then go up to the top, and out the back… – you’re all right! Nothing to that.

And that is a lot of balderdash, because a fellow can go out and change his future all over the place. It just depends on how much he wants to stay in contact with the existing eight dynamics of the MEST universe, that he will monitor and reduce his ability to change the future, or how much credence he wishes to give to other individuals that he refrains from changing future. And that’s all there is to that. The future becomes a deposit and then that deposit becomes kind of solid, and it is, of course, in present time because it is a state that’s solid and unchanging – it’s a state of unchanging havingness.

And I would just take those techniques, as I have given them to you and you find on these mimeographed sheets of paper, and you’ve got in your own notes, and there’s no randomity in ‘em at all. That’s what you do. And you might find out that you will adjust to doing a couple of the steps in reverse, or something, you happen to decide this is the case, that’s all right. But I’d go kind of soft with that in the class here.

And that goes into the past and the person has got facsimiles in restim and there he sits. And of course, he’s got a piece of energy which he… he’s got it all mixed up with energy that he says is future energy and this is past energy and it’s already happened. That’s agreement with the MEST universe.

First place, it’ll upset the guy if you’re doing it wrong, and he knows what you re supposed to do, and that’s the only liability. And the main liability is… when auditing an auditor, is that if the fellow is a complete noodlehead on his techniques, the auditor is the first one that finds it out. There is no liability in auditing an auditor if it is done by an auditor who knows his auditing. There’s no such thing, really, as altitude independent of data, to auditors and to preclears. And the reason why it seems to work so well on the people out in the street, is these people out there in the street, they’re just… just… they’re just walking around and they… they… the… you… you hit them with any of these things, it’s like shootin’ rabbits with a sixteen-inch gun. And it is on this auditor too, but the auditor’s got a ritual. He thinks you ought to follow this ritual, and he’s very critical if you don’t. He knows how he’s supposed to be brought up before the altar, and carved.

Well, there’s your… there is your dissertation on the tone scale. You can count, then, as a person goes down tone scale, that the future looks more and more unchangeable or solid to him, or inevitable, and that he can be defeated more and more and pain and penalty is more and more there, and desirability is less and less there.

And so I would be very and particularly careful to know Standard Operating Procedure Issue V in this class, and consider that as the standard of auditing which you’re going to receive, and either… though I might send you a cable, uh… in two or three days, saying I have a brand-new technique, I’ve just issued Standard Operating Procedure Issue X, you go right on using V, huh? And the reason for this is you… you know V, it’s. it’s… you know. Sometimes… sometimes a fellow could have a whole palace, gorgeous palace, all paved in gold, and everything else, and fellow gives it to him, and he walks down, and he looks at this gorgeous palace, and… and… and so on, and he himself, at the… he’s living in this little game-keeper’s cottage down there at the corner of the grounds. And he goes up, and he looks at the palace, and gee, it’s a nice palace, and then he goes back to the game-keeper’s cottage.

So up tone scale the future looks desirable because he thinks he can change the rate of havingness. And the present becomes undesirable, gradually, as he finds he isn’t doing it, and the past, then, takes on and absorbs his interest. And as he goes down tone scale you could say that the upper part of the tone scale is the next thousand years for man. The upper part of the tone scale would be the next thousand years and that would be merely the rate of change of havingness and not-havingness in the next thousand years of havingness.

Why? Well, it’s HIS cottage! It’s HIS bric-a-brac lying on the mantle, he knows how many inches to reach over to the right to pick up a pipe or a snuff box, or anything that he might care to want, he knows how… he knows that the water tap in the kitchen leaks, and uh… he knows that you have to give it an extra twist, and he’s got all of these little gimmickgahoojits of handlingness worked out in it. It’s not a new strange space to him.

And uh… there the band immediately below that would be the next dozen years. And the band below that would be this coming month. And then there’d be tomorrow. And then there’d be today. And all that’s uncertainty. What’s an uncertainty? An uncertainty is a ‘maybe’ and that’s an indecision and that’s a double flow. And what is a solid piece of matter? A matter is a solid piece of confusion and chaos, and this is double-vectored and, of course, matter itself is the biggest ‘maybe’ there is. Indecision. There is nothing travelling in one direction and there is nothing in alignment, that is chaos. An indecision is… is ‘yes’ going thataway, and ‘no’ going thataway, cancelling each other out and you don’t get any action.

That’s why people hold on to Book One, for Christ sakes. People trained in Elizabeth, in 1950, are still auditing by Book One. And they’ll get better results by Book One, up to a point where they would use this by rote, practically. There’s no substitute for knowingness. And what’s knowingness consist of? Well, in terms of use, in terms of use, it gets in… out into space and energy, and my God, uh… you’ve got… you’ve got – of course this type of knowingness can’t be beat. You… you know the space, and the energy and object content of that space, which is to say you know the auditing room, and uh… the preclear, and you know how that body is going to move and twitch if you say so and so to it. And this is what you expected. And so you get into a nice quiet calm rut about the whole thing.

If you want to see your preclear in a big ‘maybe’, get him something in which he’s very interested, first and foremost thing, and he’s convinced concerning his… his liability for punishment, and uh… you’ve got yourself a mighty confused fellow.

Well you’ve got to be in pretty good shape to change fast. But let’s take out, immediately, the question mark which is going to be in the mind of any preclear present, by not agreeing to be audited by anything but Standard Operating Procedure Issue V. Let’s establish that, and it… has a… a consent, an agreement. And I’m not going to issue anything else on that, and let’s just chew right ahead.

Well as you go down tone scale, he begins to believe that pain-pain- pain-pain-pain, pain consists of force, and the heavier bands predominate on the lower part of the tone scale. Although all bands are there, all the pain is dominant.

Now we’ve got a certain course schedule, that has been laid out, and that is all very nice, but the people present are not fair game. Let’s just knock that out as fair game. The world’s lousy with preclears! Why would we have to test any locks or engrams or anything elseses upon anybody here? Why?

Now this, then, uh… and up above that… you have to be up above a certain level, then, in order to obtain pleasure, or you have to obtain pleasure of the type that is on the band and the experience of being in the band itself or the operating of the band for its own sake, and using force in it, is, of course, pleasure too. Very odd kind of pleasure.

I submit to you. There’s practically anybody can be made better with these techniques, why should you just test on somebody that isn’t going to benefit by them? Why not spread yourself out a little bit?

In other words, there’s a lot of pleasure in… in strangling somebody – 1.5 feels. 1.1 would take enormous joy out of the idea of… of uh… he might get an enormous amount of pleasure – he’d have to be interested first and have a conviction that he could do it in order to carry forward this action – in poisoning somebody very adroitly. And if they’re… this person is high on aesthetic – a 1.1 and high on aesthetic… there could be a 1.1 low on aesthetic and a 1.1 high on aesthetic and so forth, and a 1.1 kind of null and neuter. There’s where you get your randomity in personality. It’s just which bands of perception and action will they use. Why, this 1.1 would put the poison in a rose and dip the rose into a wine glass as a touching little gesture so the lover could drink it all down. 1.1 could then say „Oh, dear! What has happened to you? Does your stomach hurt?“ Typical.

You might have information, or recommendations to the contrary. I notice a little wave of ‘Oh no!’ on that coming back at me. Nah, it isn’t important. It isn’t important, really, that you do anything but get your cases in the best most possibly wonderful condition as fast as possible, and get Step 1 completely out of the road, including all the lifting exercises. And just get it out of the road, that’s all!

All right, then maybe you understand, then, that the past is solid and the present somewhat nebulously solid, and the future doesn’t exist for the psychotic. ‘Cause for the psychotic the past is solid, and that’s the only solidity he’s got. Why, he can’t pervade any further than his immediate self environment, and that is solid energy. He has no pervasion any further than his own energy. He can’t pervade out into any greater space than that, so he’s dragged down in space, he’s very, very centralized in himself, and there he goes. There you have it.

And then if you want to know what facsimiles look like, look at some! Pick ‘em up and sort through a couple of card packages’ worth. If you want to know what locks look like, why spread a few out. Or go down the street and push somebody’s face into one to see how he acts. And then say, „What do you know? It makes him cough.“ And you can do your research completely in reverse, rather than on a couch. If you go at it in that fashion.

All right, your neurotic finds the present solid and every once in a while convinces himself it’s solid by pinching himself. This he considers his conviction. And he’s still enough under penalty… he’s terribly under penalty so that he can be punished if he doesn’t have this solidity in the present. And your person who is really sane, who is able to think, able to predict the rate of change or cause a rate of change of havingness or not-havingness, is, of course, handling the future. He can not only handle the past, he knows that; he can handle the present, and he can, of course, broadly handle the future, he thinks. And he’s interested is doing so, interested in handling that future.

That schedule is laid out against a longer course period than this. And it is laid out in the hope that you won’t use class members to finish off that experimental line. They happen to need your skill, and you as your own case happen to need the skill of your class members.

Now the volume of effort that he will put into the future depends upon his amount of interest in the future. So if you have a person on… high on the tone scale who is sitting on Mount Olympus doing absolutely nothing, and a person who is fairly high on the tone scale with terrific amounts of randomity all over the shop, still high on the tone scale, but in action with regard to the future, and you’re getting a difference of what? You’re getting a difference of rate of change for the individual.

Right away, and as soon as possible, and daylight and nighttime, and S… the MEST universe is burning. There isn’t any reason to loaf around on a case. The essence of any auditing is learning how to handle something. And if you can handle something you can handle something more. There’s a much tougher gradient scale that a guy like me follows. I don’t follow the gradient scale as closely as you might think.

Fellow on Olympus is at no different point on the tone scale. He just doesn’t have as much interest in it as the fellow who is in action. And the interest doesn’t happen to be psychotic or neurotic or anything of the sort. It doesn’t matter what you’re interested in or how much you’re interested in it; it does matter how well you’re able to handle something after you get interested in it.

If I fail at something, I set up two. You say, „Yes, you can fall flat on your face doing that.“ Yes, sir. But when you make gains, you sure knew you jumped a span. You didn’t wait for the realization to sneak up on you. You found out you couldn’t drive such and such a car, because it so happened that it had a very, very bad kingbolt. And the front wheel went kerfluppity flup every once in a while, and every time you’d skidded into a turn the doggone thing just went fluppity flup and you knew damn well that that was not going to work out that way. So you pull the other kingbolt, give it a good solid rap and a bend, and put that back in, and then drive it. And after that, you know, it doesn’t matter what a car does, when you go around a turn, and it goes fluppity floppity flue, you just go right on around the turn. With the complete conviction that you could probably pick up the front end anyway, if it fell off. Pick it up and sort of run alongside of the car with one hand.

That is the thing that parents find wrong with children. The child will be interested in chemistry and want a chemistry set. He’s very interested in chemistry and he gets a chemistry set and he’s still very interested in chemistry, but his ability to estimate the rate of change of havingness on the thing is kind of bad. And he starts to run into a not-have, the second he gets this ‘have.’ And of course reverse vectors start to hit him and he’s no longer interested in it. Hmmm!

The way to do it is not to go back to the garage and have the kingbolt repaired, because that thing is just MEST universe. The mission of the MEST universe is ‘Fail, fella.’ And then we are more MEST. ‘Unless thou failest, thy shalt not be,’ says the MEST universe, ‘so you better fail.’

Well, the parents say, well, he ought to continue and be constant in their interest. And the reason they ought to do so is because parents don’t change, do they?

The only way to fool it is, is just look… take a look at it, and say, „It’s just MEST.“ All right. Your own case isn’t serious, then. Your own group could be serious, though.

And they consider this a great virtue. Unchangingness is NOT a virtue, And you start to hit a society and change it too often in the field of objects, and it will rebel. But uh… you can change objects all over the place.

D… I… I don’t think anybody’s given any… any thought to something, merely because it’s too far out and beyond one’s thought. The incredible and the fantastic are the best safeguards that you possibly could have. The best possible safeguards, ‘cause nobody’s really going to interfere with you.

Some of the old-time pilots used to change objects from coast to coast and around the world and that sort of thing, and everybody was tremendously, vastly interested. Why? Well, the rate of change was very fast. And it was above their level of rate of change, and somebody seemed to be able to get rid of this, and away with this rate of change, so they got very interested in it. Why? Well, they… they wanted a higher rate of change themselves, but they didn’t dare have a r… higher rate of change themselves. So they got very interested in that line.

What do you think… what would you think, uh… of a precaution that caused you to write down three numerals on a piece of paper and make your preclear memorize them completely, as an identification tag, and then you threw it in the top drawer of your desk? What would you think of that? You’d think that was being too cautious, wouldn’t you? Well, you know, in the course of averages, I would say, over a course of five years, there will be at least once, if not five or ten times, if not a… five hundred times, when you’d be damned sorry you didn’t do it.

Well, your old-time pilot could do that, but let’s take somebody who starts changing very close to the static level. I… I’ve been shifting things around close to the static level like mad, by just the change of growth. Of course, an idea doesn’t grow; you just get more and more certain on a certain level and it can be associated with rate of changes of havingness and not havingness more closely. And the first thing you know, you can either exist in the static level or you can exist in the energy flow level – either way. People get upset because you change ideas; in that level they get more upset, about it. They really get upset because they’re looking at a static. They… they’ve got a ghosty idea that there must be a static there, ‘cause it’s theta, isn’t it? And it’s probably motionless. That’s right; it’s motionless.

Who guarantees this fact? The thetan is used to communicating with the body, right? And a new thetan suddenly grabbing a body, or something of the sort, which was left and abandoned, could make it emote, couldn’t he? But the guy’d look like your friend, wouldn’t he? Dramatic, isn’t it? Think about it for a minute. Fellow could say, „I’m John Jones“ ‘cause lying all over the place is the name John Jones. Why sure, sure, sure, there’s nothing to that at all. And yet he could say, „My auditor was so-and-so, and such-and-such, ‘cause it’s right there on the ridges, pictures of same. Must be on the ridges. GE knows something about it, sort of a dim recollection here, and I can plow around in this dim recollection and scatter enough stuff up. Find all sorts of things out about the whole deal.“ Identification. Who’s going to identify you as the thetan?

But when it enters into the field of energy, it demonstrates the fact that it’s not motionless and that there’s a motion connected with it. They get very confused.

Where would you go if something happened to you? What if… what if you were walking down the street, and… and you got halfway across the street, and you had your body down there in the middle of the street, and it was walking from curb to curb, and a fire engine came around and you didn’t even happen to notice it; you were a long way away. And all of a sudden, crash. You didn’t have any body anymore. And you could go to the hospital if you wanted to, and pick up this kid that was going to die anyway, and he wasn’t in bad shape, and there’s another thetan there, in a kind of a stupid state of mind, so you tell him „Oh, go on back to Mars, another implant won’t hurt you.“ End uh… and you walk around and you come around to the Foundation, and you say, uh… what are you gonna say? „Can I come in?“

The one thing you’re not supposed to do is change your mind. You can change almost anything else, but don’t change your mind, for God’s sakes! You’ll find that in more banks!

You obviously are Johnny Jones, just obviously as hell. Except you re really Mary Stevens. And you want to find somebody who’s in charge of the thing, and you say, „I’m 3-1-1-3-1-1-3-1-1. And you better arrange to get my office and gear back in a hurry, and let’s see if we can’t collect the life insurance on that body!“ You think I’m being facetious. It sounds very dramatic. Very dramatic. It’s above the level of your experience, maybe right now, to some slight degree; we’re really climbing into the realms.

Now, your tone scale, then, is also an estimation of how long it’s going to take to change the future estimates of this individual. Of course, the lower on the tone scale, the longer it’s going to take. Why? You take the same process, you’re getting more and more factors entering into it which are varying the matter involved. The energy has turned into matter, to a large extent, and there we have it.

And so you’ve got a lot of things to do besides audit. You’ve got a lot of things to be interested in. And you poke around enough, and fool around enough, and monkey around, and let your own case be pushed this way and that, and not insist on Standard Operating Procedure on it, and get tacit consent and patty-cake, not go through this line-up, you can waste all kinds of time! You can just have a wonderful time, and you can finally wind up by not having had to do anything at all. That’s a hell of a state of affairs, isn’t it?

So, here, then, is perhaps a better understanding of what you’re looking at when you look at the state of a preclear. He’s trying to hold himself up by being interested in one dynamic maybe, or another dynamic. He isn’t interested broadly in all the dynamics. You can lead him with interest into almost anything. You can! You can lead anything. You can lead nations to destruction. You can lead planets to hell and back with the loopiest subject matter imaginable so long as an interest level is maintained.

Is Standard Operating Procedure Issue V hard? No. I’ve had an awful hard time talking to you about it this many hours. You think there’s an awful lot of data here. Well there is. There’s an awful lot of communication here that’s communicated from eighty different ways. But the whole truth of the matter is when it finally becomes yours, it’ll sort of go Boing! And you’ll say, „Well, I couldn’t possibly have spent all that time wondering about this! I just couldn’t have.“ There it is. Because it’s so simple. And of course you’ll go over to somebody, and you’ll say – well, you… you crossed the abyss. That magic, mystic operation happened, at that moment, see. You went from just a shnook to ‘I know’.

Let’s take sound solid subject matter which is a very tight, close evaluation of the situation, and subtract the interest from it. Let’s not make it colorful. Then your people who are really spinny don’t pay any attention to it. Why? Well, they haven’t got any interest in it because they can’t associate that with something else, and they can only identify. And they can obey force and that’s about all.

And you’ll go around, and you say to the grocer, you say, ‘You know, there’s this stuff called Scientology, and… and all it is, is really just…“ and you’ll give what your concept of it is, and he’ll say, „Huh?“

So, you can walk straight through a society and as long as you do not introduce anything interesting in the material, you can tear it to pieces. But you introduce something like ‘74 trillion years old’, some magazine pick it up. It’s interesting – it becomes interesting. That’s truth. That’ll go around. People will begin to wonder, „Well, that’s nonsense!“ or „How’s this?“ but they wonder why Time’s printing it and so on, and get upset about this. You’ve introduced a level of interest.

And you’ll say, „Well, it’s like this: like this, you see, there’s space, there’s energy, and there’s havingness… And so on… and so on… and I want to explain to you why you don’t have any Time doing the whole thing.“

Well, from that point on it can start to get uh… a little bit hectic because your interest level starts increasing. Well, boy, when interest level starts to increase, you had better be – as I once was not – very well located on a static as far as ideas are concerned. „You do so forth-and-so-and-so.“ In other words, the non-motion thing called an idea shouldn’t be subject too much to change. And so you ought to have a good, broad, workable, precise body of knowledge which sits there and will sit there and which will endure and which is not subject to misinterpretation, because why? It has a workable, routine, easily understood application.

And the fellow’ll say, „What are you talking about, mister?“ Yeah, that’s right, „What are you talking about?“ That doesn’t fit with his frame of experience. You can go around, and explain to somebody about this, and he’ll look at you so intelligently. Boy, they’ll just look at you so intelligently, and they go on and on. And you finally find out they’ve picked up that when you said that time wasn’t as long as it is now, when you were a little boy. And they finally agreed to that, because the reason they agreed to that is that they had a sudden recollection of how long they thought a piece of ice lasted when they were young, or something like that, and now they’ve got the whole subject down, and they go around and they explain it to somebody, and they say, „You know, when you’re young, pieces of Ice don’t last as long, uh… they last longer than they lasted now.“

And the second you do this, then if you start stirring up interest in the society at large, interest, and you’ve got a static idea that society can shift. When I can say that a world can be led to hell and back with interest, you can package anything, no matter what garbage – anything – and cloak it in certain tones and it will be bought – without question!

And this girl says, „Oh, they do? That’s very interesting.“ And go on about his work.

Scholarly language is simply a method of toning up straight corn. People buy in the field of sciences, not knowledge or truth, they buy tone scale. And they feel that science should be at 3.0 on the tone scale. There is just that much estimation of the rate of change of havingness. „And whereas we don’t take any real responsibility for this, it has occasionally been stated and so on…“ They buy tone scale.

That’s the way knowledge dwindles out. But you don’t have to go at it that way, the hard way. Your own case is quite important. It’s important to this group, and it’s important to Scientology at large, and it’s also important for your own peace of mind. ‘Cause as long as you poke around and in unreality about actuality, things that come along, people can do this to you, they can do that to you, they can do something else to you.

The… is… this is, perhaps, not as… as completely hilarious to anybody as it is to a writer. A writer can look at this and it isn’t something that amazes him. He’s been doing this for a long time. „How does Professor Blink talk in the story?“ The writer knows. He establishes tone scales all over the place, up and down and back and forth and around and around. He has to, to have any randomity of characterization. He has to characterize people as people think they know people. A writer doesn’t write about how people are; he writes about how people think people ought to be when they are written about.

I learned something, really, by experience, for the first time in a long time, the other day. Something happened here. My… I just realized this. I’ve been pretty busy. Well, I’ve been pretty busy, I’ve been having a good time about a lot of things, and so I’ve been working very hard, I haven’t had as good a time as I might have had about a lot of things. But uh… I all of a sudden realized something. I… I realized that it would be too bad if I suddenly had to kick the mooring lines off, but uh… it didn’t really make any difference. And not… that is… wasn’t the decision of idleness, but it was a decision that that wouldn’t impede the action in any way whatsoever. It was too easy to go ahead and pick it up elsewise. And I… you know something? I hadn’t ever realized that before?

Dialogue is not what people say, but the things people think people should say when written about. Highly conditional. And so we could get out a book under some guise by just – on any subject under the sun, any subject – and if it were properly written on the right level of the tone scale, believe me it could become THE tome on the subject. All you’d have to do is study style.

I mean, really to know, I was in the field of action with knowledge. And that’s the place you know. And… and suddenly it was there, and I had a complete realization on that fact, and with it came this realization, it couldn’t be touched! That’s a fascinating thing, isn’t it? And you look at these great big solid trucks, and you look at these great big solid walls, and… and all that sort of thing, and you say, „Boy, it sure is prettied up, isn’t it? Looks practically real!“ But it’s not.

What the hell has an aesthetic got doing, walking in on knowledge? Beware of knowledge which is too well-dressed in an aesthetic. Knowledge is that thing from which you should be able to deduce, acquire and abandon aesthetics. If you are in a high level of truth, you can acquire or jettison aesthetics by the skillions, because to that interest may be added. But if you are in an aesthetic alone and you find there nothing but an aesthetic? ‘Cause what is a piece of writing but an aesthetic? Even… even though it appears in the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA it has, or not has, a certain aesthetic balance.

And that was action. Worked for a long time, and worked very hard. And actually entered the frame of reference that I was working sometimes – believe me, it was hard. Because I thought I was supposed to think it was hard, too. There’s a little over eighty thousand hours of work, and there’s a lot of things I would have rather done a lot of times. But I had never come up along the level of estimation… it’s something like walking into one end of a tunnel, and suddenly coming out of the other end of the tunnel. And you… you can walk in that tunnel for so long you don’t know you’ve been in a tunnel. And you say, „Well, it sure is pretty in this tunnel. Yeah, sure is pretty, in… in this uh… tunnel. It sure is pretty in this place. Sure is pretty around here… yeah, it sure is pretty in this great, big tunnel.“

Do you know that there’s enormous room in this world for a good data encyclopedia? „How do you make penicillin? You make penicillin by…“ Not… not uh… uh… „in the early days of chemical research, it was suspected that, when certain bacteria were bacteriarized, they were so bacteriarized that the bacteriological bacteriazation took place almost instantaneously. But later on they found out they could drag it out a bit. And Professor Wumph said, although this is controverted by Professor Battleboof, that the earlier suppositions regarding this subject were not supported by the ancient Greek. Of course, when we have studied more deeply into this subject…“ You poor boob! You couldn’t understand this subject. We have to interpret it for you, you boob! Uh… that’s not in there in print. That’s just there. Uh… when you get through you say, „How the hell do you make this stuff?!“

„Yeah, ‘tunnel’, that’s the name for ‘universe’. That’s what you call a tunnel. And that’s one of the vastest parts, and that’s uh… oh, I don’t know, two tunnels make an infinity. That’s right, that’s the width of a tunnel, that’s uh… well, maybe the tunnel goes up to infinity. Yeah. And there’s lights, and suns, and stars, and everything in the tunnel,“ and… and you go on about this thing. And… and what’s ‘tunnel’ mean? It’s changed its evaluation entirely and there it is, there it is.

That used to torture me because I was manufacturing the wherewithal and the havingness in this society necessary to the production of Dianetics and Scientology and the study of the mind. There wasn’t anybody else going to throw any money into this. I had to throw money into this, so I made the money to throw it into it.

Then one day you’re… you’re standing outside something and it hasn’t got anything to do with the tunnel. And you say, „Holy Cow! How did I… what is all this stuff out here? It’s space! What do you know! Why, it couldn’t po…“ Gee, you know, it… it’s something that you… you… you just all of a sudden… then remember, that there was a time when you weren’t in a tunnel. And there was a time when I was not working on Dianetics or Scientology. That’s a fact. There was a time.

Well, I ca… you can always make money. That… that’s the easiest stuff in the world to make. Sometimes you get a little bit short. For a few weeks, why, you’re chewing shoe leather or something uh… like Charlie Chaplain did when he ate his shoe, and so on. But uh… what the score is in any one of these aesthetics is that there’s either data or there’s an aesthetic.

And another symbolism of it is shoving across an abyss. Well, you better get shoved, that’s all I gotta say! There isn’t any reason fooling around with your own case to learn something. Phooey! Learn it off somebody else’s case. Standard Operating Procedure Issue V will crack your case. I know that. It’s about time you did. ‘Cause believe me, the best way I know of for you to know this subject now, is to find out that it works on you. And that’s the best way.

Now if you simply sit there – you’re not trying to teach Scientology, you’re not trying to tell anybody about Scientology – but you are merely using Scientology either to put an industry on its feet or put preclears together, your rate of change of havingness and not-havingness to a large degree depends upon your aesthetic, not the exposition of your knowledge.

And it’s a funny thing that we… we’ve boiled it down to about five techniques. Five major techniques. That’s funny, isn’t it? Uh… for the very, very bad off, we’ve got that, but we’re… we’re doing essentially the same techniques, they’re all backed against the same thing. It’s really only about five techniques there. It’s fantastic! We’ve only got one process that is key process, and that is we handle space and energy.

Your havingness and not-havingness, then, is changed by the interest level which is elicited towards you, and interest is invited by aesthetics, not by knowledge.

And how do we do this? We handle space and energy by mock-ups. And then we get actual space, and then one day we’ll be looking at actual energy. Well, we say, „You know, it’s the funniest doggone thing, but every time I make a piece of space, the mock-ups in that piece of space…“ And you say, „Well, that’s no good! Well what do you know! Look at that mock-up! You know, that’s the funniest thing, there… there it is…“ and so on. You’ll find out they appear, and disappear, just like, Bang! When you can make space. Why, There’s nothing to it.

That’s why there are so few who will ever learn this subject. Really, there are very few out of all the beings there are.

The value of MEST starts getting lower, but the value of randomity is such you continue to hang around it. Your own case is very important to you from a standpoint of knowing Scientology. Now I can tell you, and tell you, and talk to you and talk to you, and persuade you, and say, „Yes, it works on you and uh… it’s this way and it’s that way, and it’s some other way,“ and so on. That doesn’t do any good.

You can take this knowledge – if you know this knowledge well, you do not have to parade this knowledge. You can teach people the knowledge. If you do that, for God’s sakes, just teach ‘em data more or less like I do. The amount of interest that I’ve put into this is very minor – very minor really. Make a wisecrack once in a while, throw some randomity in – don’t do very… very much. Give ‘em data – tha… that’s what’s important if you’re teaching.

A sudden change in your case, a sudden difference, will do more for you than any amount of study. Now as you review these tapes you should also be doing a lot of auditing. On what? To repeat those class records? No, you go out and get… you go… go send… Western Union sends you a messenger boy, if you want to do that. You do that otherwise. The thing for you to do is get your own case in shape, as you go over, and review. You really get it in shape. Of course, that’s your responsibility. Not really your auditor’s. It’s your responsibility, that his case is in shape and it’s the responsibility of every member in this group, to make sure this group’s in shape. From there on you won’t need anybody to prop you up in any way whatsoever, or tell you anything more about it. You’ll know. And that’s the best way I know to know, is to get up the Chart of Attitudes, toward the level called ‘I know.

But if you’re practicing, don’t give anybody any data at all. They say, „I hear that you think that so-and-so.“

And I invite you to climb that ladder as rapidly as possible, not by esoterics or aesthetics or something of this sort, but by using just exactly what we’ve got here, Standard Operating Procedure Issue V. And you apply it to the preclear in liberal quantities. And get it applied to you. I don’t want to have anybody in this class really, if I had any thought about it at all, who goes around saying, „I helped everybody, and therefore l didn’t get it.“ That’s MEST universe. Phooey! No good.

And you say, „You do? Well, there’s no accounting for people, what they hear. Now people,“ then you look at them searchingly, „people who have a great thirst for beauty and love and that sort of thing, often invite into themselves information of a kind which is… they’re afraid will be true. And do you know that they will often hold to themselves data that… for fear other people will be hurt by it?“

There isn’t any point in my trying to stress the importance of this, because the best place to know is at the level of the Chart of Attitudes, ‘I know’, and the best way to get there is to use Standard Operating Procedure Issue V, and when you use Standard Operating Procedure Issue V, you’d better find out that you get there. And that’s… that’s simple.

And the patient will look at you and say, „That’s sweet!“

And there isn’t any piece of knowledge I’ve left out. The case of an auditor above a certain level does not need refurbishing continually. He’ll keep it squared away. But the case of an auditor below that level requires constant attention, so it’s better to get up above that level – that’d be the level of stability, the level of tolerance. And it’s in the tolerance that he can get into action or he doesn’t have to, at will.

You… you look into this preclear’s eyes and say, „Yes, you… you’ve had a thirst for human love, haven’t you?“ I mean, you talk about obvious data. They jus… just take this tone scale and take a look at the girl. This tone scale is lying here under the blotter and you can only see in that direction, see. And it says… it says, „Apathy: Relatively uncontrolled anxi…“ You wouldn’t be able to talk to her uh… too much. Uh… here: „Capable of destructive action, psychotic, depository.“ „Oh, no. Let’s get up higher. „Boredom: Relatively inactive but capable of action.“ She comes in, boy, is she a bored… a bored character. And uh… yet so-and-so and so-and-so. It’s right cr… across the line. Put the aesthetic band on this thing: „Boredom: Normal, neurotic, halfway between, occasionally ill, susceptible to usual diseases.“

And that doesn’t say that you’re dependent, then, upon the economics or other things of this MEST universe; you are not, not even vaguely. And the sooner you learn it, the stronger and happier you will be and this group will be. I recommend to you very strongly, liberal doses of this.

„Well, you’ve… you’ve often regarded yourself, I am sure, as average in health, haven’t you?“

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„Yes – yes I have!“

„Uh… and really your… your interest in life has vacillated to a large degree between indifference and boredom, hasn’t it?“

„Well, that’s… that’s right.“

„Yes, I know. I know it very well that… how this thing is, ‘cause life isn’t very interesting, when it really comes down to that. One can certainly agree on that – it’s terribly uninteresting. It’s a terrible bore. Awful bore, isn’t it? Dreadful.“

And they say, „Boy, you know this guy’s right in there pitching with me.“ He just looks across and you’re agreeing with him.

„Now you… you’ve felt this withdrawal from people for some time. haven’t you?“

„How’d you know I withdrew from…?“ „Well…“ „I really don’t, you know. It’s just that they bore me.“

„Well, that’s right. But people are very uninteresting. One can’t be blamed for that, can one?“

„No, no!“

Uh… now we’ll go along here… „Uh… the routine ordinary humdrum life that one leads is, of course, a good safeguard against all this.“

„Yes, I’ve found it so.“

Agreement, agreement, agreement… Let’s just go right across the boards here and we find out that uh… „Disinterest in procreation; vague tolerance of children.“ Huh! In other words, you can just make it up – „Insincere, careless of facts.“ Well, what do you know? You’re talking to a 2.5. Careless of facts.

You say, „Well, the appointment began at 2:30“ – it didn’t. The appointment began at 3:15. They’ll say, „All right, it began at 2:30,“ – doesn’t matter – „ and it continued until 5:30“ – they’re not interested in anything. And these people, of course, are very easy to take things away from so you simply say, „Well, that fee for this session now…“ patting them sympathetically on the hand a little bit, but not as sympathetically as you’d pat somebody way, way down tone scale here, see. You really pat somebody down around… pat a 1.5 on the hand sympathetically some time. They just go „Slurp“; they’re Just people who have driven away every possible thing that they really want, and you show them a little bit of sympathy „Well, It’s pretty rough, carrying the world on your back kind of, you know? And getting things along and trying to get people to do things. Overcoming these various inertias and so on. That’s pretty rough. Yeah.“

Oh, boy! That guy will just empty out his soul in great big coal buckets. Why you…

But you’re not interested in that to any great degree. But is… what is the aesthetic? The aesthetic isn’t knowledge, it’s putting it to use. And it’s the amount of interest which we’ll be given to you because you know. And that’s about all there is to it.

When doing mock-ups, you find in following this material along and in matching up the interest in aesthetics of people, and keeping them marching on up that your cases wall keep advancing.

This chart can help you and I hope this data about Time helps you an awful lot, because it’s going to help an awful lot of people if you use it. Let’s take a break.

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