AUDITING DEMO: EXTERIORIZATION | AUDITING DEMO: EXTERIORIZATION |
LRH: I've got to give you a little bit of processing here, a little auditing demonstration. I'm going to demonstrate to you some exteriorization techniques. Come up here. We'll take a nonexteriorizable, dead-in-the-head, stuck, gone... Sit down. | LRH: I've got to give you a little bit of processing here, a little auditing demonstration. I'm going to demonstrate to you some exteriorization techniques. Come up here. We'll take a nonexteriorizable, dead-in-the-head, stuck, gone... Sit down. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: There's no sense in people worrying about exteriorization. It's too simple. I don't expect you to exteriorize during this session; I'm merely showing a technique. I want that clearly understood because I'm just going to show you how the technique works. You've already seen this technique once. You've already seen this technique operate once and just a little bit of reality start to show up on it. Now, there isn't much reason why a great deal of preliminary work has to be done with exteriorization. There isn't any reason why we should make it long and drawn out. Let me give you first here ... just relax. | LRH: There's no sense in people worrying about exteriorization. It's too simple. I don't expect you to exteriorize during this session; I'm merely showing a technique. I want that clearly understood because I'm just going to show you how the technique works. You've already seen this technique once. You've already seen this technique operate once and just a little bit of reality start to show up on it. Now, there isn't much reason why a great deal of preliminary work has to be done with exteriorization. There isn't any reason why we should make it long and drawn out. Let me give you first here ... just relax. |
PC: All right. I'm trying. | PC: All right. I'm trying. |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
PC: I'm trying. | PC: I'm trying. |
LRH: Well, don't try. Relax. | LRH: Well, don't try. Relax. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Let me point out something to you here. You ever hear about universes? | LRH: Let me point out something to you here. You ever hear about universes? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What are the three kinds of universe there are? | LRH: What are the three kinds of universe there are? |
PC: Mine, yours and everybody else's. Hm? No? MEST. All right. | PC: Mine, yours and everybody else's. Hm? No? MEST. All right. |
LRH: How come you missed that one, Smokey? | LRH: How come you missed that one, Smokey? |
PC: Gee. | PC: Gee. |
LRH: Now, let's go over this again. | LRH: Now, let's go over this again. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: How many kinds of universes are there? | LRH: How many kinds of universes are there? |
PC: My universe, the MEST universe, and other people's universe, right? | PC: My universe, the MEST universe, and other people's universe, right? |
LRH: That's right. That's right. All right. Now, now that we've gone this far - did you know that a person can be booted out of the MEST universe into another universe, like the MEST universe? | LRH: That's right. That's right. All right. Now, now that we've gone this far - did you know that a person can be booted out of the MEST universe into another universe, like the MEST universe? |
PC: I heard. | PC: I heard. |
LRH: Do you know they can be booted out? Do you ever think about robots or anything like this? | LRH: Do you know they can be booted out? Do you ever think about robots or anything like this? |
PC: Oh, when I read stories about them, I do. | PC: Oh, when I read stories about them, I do. |
LRH: You do? Oh, you do read stories about 'em? | LRH: You do? Oh, you do read stories about 'em? |
PC: Yeah, and when you lecture I sometimes do. | PC: Yeah, and when you lecture I sometimes do. |
LRH: Uh-huh. You do, huh? | LRH: Uh-huh. You do, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What kind of a robot's head is the worst kind? A robot head? | LRH: What kind of a robot's head is the worst kind? A robot head? |
PC: One that won't obey a command, perhaps. | PC: One that won't obey a command, perhaps. |
LRH: That kind of a robot head? | LRH: That kind of a robot head? |
PC: Yeah. One that's kind of screwy. | PC: Yeah. One that's kind of screwy. |
LRH: A kind of a screwy robot? | LRH: A kind of a screwy robot? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: What would the head be shaped like? | LRH: What would the head be shaped like? |
PC: I'll have to think, I'll have to think one up. | PC: I'll have to think, I'll have to think one up. |
LRH: All right, go ahead and think one up. | LRH: All right, go ahead and think one up. |
PC: Round. | PC: Round. |
LRH: Be a round head. Be the center of a round robot's head and spot spots in his environment. Now, is this a clear command? | LRH: Be a round head. Be the center of a round robot's head and spot spots in his environment. Now, is this a clear command? |
PC: It's a clear command. | PC: It's a clear command. |
LRH: Be in the center of a robot's head and spot spots in his environment and close your eyes. All right. Now, be in the center of a robot's head and spot spots in his environment. Can you get the idea of doing that? | LRH: Be in the center of a robot's head and spot spots in his environment and close your eyes. All right. Now, be in the center of a robot's head and spot spots in his environment. Can you get the idea of doing that? |
PC: I can get the idea of doing it. | PC: I can get the idea of doing it. |
LRH: Ah, that's my girl. You can get the idea of doing it. What would his environment look like? | LRH: Ah, that's my girl. You can get the idea of doing it. What would his environment look like? |
PC: Rather drab. | PC: Rather drab. |
LRH: Drab, huh? | LRH: Drab, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And what kind of environment? Is it open, spaces, barriers, walls, what? | LRH: And what kind of environment? Is it open, spaces, barriers, walls, what? |
PC: Well, probably walls. | PC: Well, probably walls. |
LRH: Probably walls? | LRH: Probably walls? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right, spot some spots on this probably walls. Why don't you look through his eyes? Has he got something like eyes there? | LRH: All right, spot some spots on this probably walls. Why don't you look through his eyes? Has he got something like eyes there? |
PC: He probably has. | PC: He probably has. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots on these walls. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots on these walls. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Come on. Let's spot some more spots on the walls. | LRH: Come on. Let's spot some more spots on the walls. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more. | LRH: Spot some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more. | LRH: Spot some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more. | LRH: Spot some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more. | LRH: Spot some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more. | LRH: Spot some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Yeah, okay. How you doing now? Is it getting easier? | LRH: Yeah, okay. How you doing now? Is it getting easier? |
PC: Why, yes. Mm-hmm. | PC: Why, yes. Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Well, you needn't say „yes“ if you don't feel like it. | LRH: Well, you needn't say „yes“ if you don't feel like it. |
PC: Well, I was doing it. Let's... | PC: Well, I was doing it. Let's... |
LRH: Was it getting easier to do? | LRH: Was it getting easier to do? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. Are the walls changing or are they remaining the same? What? | LRH: Mm-hmm. Are the walls changing or are they remaining the same? What? |
PC: Yeah, they are not very well defined. | PC: Yeah, they are not very well defined. |
LRH: Not very what? | LRH: Not very what? |
PC: Well defined. | PC: Well defined. |
LRH: They're not? | LRH: They're not? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: All right. Smokey, open your eyes. | LRH: All right. Smokey, open your eyes. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some spots in this room. | LRH: Spot some spots in this room. |
PC: All right. With my eyes? | PC: All right. With my eyes? |
LRH: Yes. | LRH: Yes. |
PC: Okay Want me to tell you about them? | PC: Okay Want me to tell you about them? |
LRH: No. You have them spotted? | LRH: No. You have them spotted? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now close your eyes. Spot some spots in this room. | LRH: Now close your eyes. Spot some spots in this room. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Fine. Be in the robot's head and spot some spots in his environment. Okay. Did you do that? | LRH: Fine. Be in the robot's head and spot some spots in his environment. Okay. Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right, let's spot some spots in his environment. | LRH: All right, let's spot some spots in his environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that easily? Getting easier to do? | LRH: Did you do that easily? Getting easier to do? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Good. Now be in this body's head and spot some spots in this room. | LRH: Good. Now be in this body's head and spot some spots in this room. |
PC: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Good. Be in the robot's head and spot some spots in his environment. | LRH: Good. Be in the robot's head and spot some spots in his environment. |
What's the matter? | What's the matter? |
PC: Well, his environment wants to have machines, now. | PC: Well, his environment wants to have machines, now. |
LRH: All right. Let's spot some spots. | LRH: All right. Let's spot some spots. |
PC: Okay. Mm-hmm. | PC: Okay. Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Getting easier to do? | LRH: Getting easier to do? |
PC: Not any easier; no. | PC: Not any easier; no. |
LRH: Not any easier. The machines changing around, or? | LRH: Not any easier. The machines changing around, or? |
PC: No, they're not changing around. | PC: No, they're not changing around. |
LRH: What is changing around? | LRH: What is changing around? |
PC: Viewpoint. | PC: Viewpoint. |
LRH: Oh, the viewpoint? You mean the robot seems to be moving? | LRH: Oh, the viewpoint? You mean the robot seems to be moving? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Oh, that's just tough. All right. Spot some spots in this room. Be in this body's head and spot some spots in this room. | LRH: Oh, that's just tough. All right. Spot some spots in this room. Be in this body's head and spot some spots in this room. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that easily? | LRH: Did you do that easily? |
PC: Pretty easy. | PC: Pretty easy. |
LRH: All right. Easier? | LRH: All right. Easier? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No? | LRH: No? |
PC: No. No easier. | PC: No. No easier. |
LRH: Look around this room, Smokey, and spot some spots in it. | LRH: Look around this room, Smokey, and spot some spots in it. |
PC: With my eyes closed? | PC: With my eyes closed? |
LRH: Yes, with your eyes closed. Stop this nonsense. | LRH: Yes, with your eyes closed. Stop this nonsense. |
PC: Yes, sir. | PC: Yes, sir. |
LRH: Spot some spots. | LRH: Spot some spots. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What you spotting? | LRH: What you spotting? |
PC: Spotting that recorder over there. | PC: Spotting that recorder over there. |
LRH: Good. What else? | LRH: Good. What else? |
PC: The stove. | PC: The stove. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: The curtain. | PC: The curtain. |
LRH: Good. What curtain? | LRH: Good. What curtain? |
PC: Behind me. | PC: Behind me. |
LRH: Where? | LRH: Where? |
PC: On the door. | PC: On the door. |
LRH: All right. Some more. | LRH: All right. Some more. |
PC: Okay Mm-hmm. | PC: Okay Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You doing this now? | LRH: You doing this now? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: Well, good. Good. You doing this a little better? | LRH: Well, good. Good. You doing this a little better? |
PC: A little. | PC: A little. |
LRH: You'd better. Now, we won't leave expectance level to chance here. All right, now, let's you be in the robot's head. | LRH: You'd better. Now, we won't leave expectance level to chance here. All right, now, let's you be in the robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Get the idea of this? | LRH: Get the idea of this? |
PC: Yeah, I get the idea. | PC: Yeah, I get the idea. |
LRH: Good. Now spot some spots in his environment. Getting that real good now? | LRH: Good. Now spot some spots in his environment. Getting that real good now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Huh? Did you spot a lot of them? | LRH: Huh? Did you spot a lot of them? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Well, here's an okay for each spot. Okay-okay-okay-okay-okay-okay-okay okay-okay. All right? | LRH: Well, here's an okay for each spot. Okay-okay-okay-okay-okay-okay-okay okay-okay. All right? |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some more spots in this robot's environment. Okay. You getting them? | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some more spots in this robot's environment. Okay. You getting them? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Getting them better? Same? | LRH: Getting them better? Same? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Better? Worse? | LRH: Better? Worse? |
PC: Environment change, okay A little. | PC: Environment change, okay A little. |
LRH: Does he - does he seem to be moving around in it still? | LRH: Does he - does he seem to be moving around in it still? |
PC: No, he's not moving. | PC: No, he's not moving. |
LRH: Oh. | LRH: Oh. |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Well what? | LRH: Well what? |
PC: Well, I was hunting for a door in his environment but I didn't find it. | PC: Well, I was hunting for a door in his environment but I didn't find it. |
LRH: Upsetting? | LRH: Upsetting? |
PC: Well, it was. | PC: Well, it was. |
LRH: Not to find a door? | LRH: Not to find a door? |
PC: But I find in one place I can see through the walls so that's all right. | PC: But I find in one place I can see through the walls so that's all right. |
LRH: Oh, I get you, Pete. All right. Now be in this body's head. | LRH: Oh, I get you, Pete. All right. Now be in this body's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And spot some spots in this body's environment. | LRH: And spot some spots in this body's environment. |
Doing that? | Doing that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. What did you spot? | LRH: All right. What did you spot? |
PC: That pole over there. | PC: That pole over there. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. | LRH: Mm-hmm. |
PC: And the light. | PC: And the light. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. | LRH: Mm-hmm. |
PC: And the top of the curtain rod. | PC: And the top of the curtain rod. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: The wall. | PC: The wall. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: The wall back there. | PC: The wall back there. |
LRH: Now spot a door just so you can make sure that there's an egress. | LRH: Now spot a door just so you can make sure that there's an egress. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: You got it? | LRH: You got it? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Fine. Now be in the robot's head. | LRH: All right. Fine. Now be in the robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's spot some spots in his environment. Spot some spots in his environment now. How are you getting along now? | LRH: Now let's spot some spots in his environment. Spot some spots in his environment now. How are you getting along now? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Getting along better? | LRH: Getting along better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Better or worse? | LRH: Better or worse? |
PC: Better. | PC: Better. |
LRH: Same? | LRH: Same? |
PC: Better. | PC: Better. |
LRH: Better? Well, good enough. Fine. Now be in this body's head here. | LRH: Better? Well, good enough. Fine. Now be in this body's head here. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And spot some objects in his environment. | LRH: And spot some objects in his environment. |
See, I'm asking her to spot walls and things like that. We haven't gone into locations. My auditing command is just a little bit offbeat, but she's doing it all right. I should be saying, „Spot some objects in this environment,“ because I don't intend to have to take time out here to remedy havingness. You get the idea? And if she's spotting walls and objects, she won't have to have her havingness remedied. If I'm asking her to spot spots in the air, I will. So the proper auditing command really would be, „Spot some objects in the environment.“ Because that's what you're doing, isn't it? | See, I'm asking her to spot walls and things like that. We haven't gone into locations. My auditing command is just a little bit offbeat, but she's doing it all right. I should be saying, „Spot some objects in this environment,“ because I don't intend to have to take time out here to remedy havingness. You get the idea? And if she's spotting walls and objects, she won't have to have her havingness remedied. If I'm asking her to spot spots in the air, I will. So the proper auditing command really would be, „Spot some objects in the environment.“ Because that's what you're doing, isn't it? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. All right. You don't feel like your havingness is being run out, do you? | LRH: All right. All right. You don't feel like your havingness is being run out, do you? |
PC: Hm-mm. | PC: Hm-mm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some more objects in this body's environment. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some more objects in this body's environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Doing that real good now? | LRH: Doing that real good now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Or are you maundering off and thinking about something? | LRH: Or are you maundering off and thinking about something? |
PC: No, I wasn't. | PC: No, I wasn't. |
LRH: All right. All right. Now let's be in the robot's head. | LRH: All right. All right. Now let's be in the robot's head. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: And spot some spots in its environment. | LRH: And spot some spots in its environment. |
PC: He hasn't got too many objects. | PC: He hasn't got too many objects. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: He doesn't have too many objects in his environment. | PC: He doesn't have too many objects in his environment. |
LRH: Or some walls, aren't there? | LRH: Or some walls, aren't there? |
PC: There sure are. | PC: There sure are. |
LRH: Well, that's an object. | LRH: Well, that's an object. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Find some places on the walls. | LRH: Find some places on the walls. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: There are some objects there, huh? | LRH: There are some objects there, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm | PC: Mm-hmm |
LRH: All right. How are you doing? | LRH: All right. How are you doing? |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: What's the matter? Are you scared of something? | LRH: What's the matter? Are you scared of something? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: What's the matter? Are you in the robot's head? Got the idea? | LRH: What's the matter? Are you in the robot's head? Got the idea? |
PC: Well, I have the idea, yes. | PC: Well, I have the idea, yes. |
LRH: You got the idea. Well, get the idea now of being stuck there and unable to exteriorize. Can you get that? | LRH: You got the idea. Well, get the idea now of being stuck there and unable to exteriorize. Can you get that? |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea of being able to exteriorize. | LRH: All right. Now get the idea of being able to exteriorize. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Can you get that? | LRH: Can you get that? |
PC: I can get the idea. | PC: I can get the idea. |
LRH: All right. That's all I ask you to do. | LRH: All right. That's all I ask you to do. |
PC: That's right. | PC: That's right. |
LRH: All right. Now be in this body. | LRH: All right. Now be in this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You got this now? | LRH: You got this now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some objects, walls, spots on the walls, in this environment. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some objects, walls, spots on the walls, in this environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You do that? | LRH: You do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now get the idea of being stuck in this body's head. | LRH: Now get the idea of being stuck in this body's head. |
PC: Yes, sir. | PC: Yes, sir. |
LRH: And not be able to get out. | LRH: And not be able to get out. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now change your idea to the fact that you can get out of this body's head. How far'd you get with changing that idea? | LRH: Now change your idea to the fact that you can get out of this body's head. How far'd you get with changing that idea? |
PC: Well, I can get the idea. Yeah... | PC: Well, I can get the idea. Yeah... |
LRH: Is it your idea? | LRH: Is it your idea? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: This is a doubtful one, huh? | LRH: This is a doubtful one, huh? |
PC: No! | PC: No! |
LRH: All right. Now let's be in the robot's head. | LRH: All right. Now let's be in the robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And let's spot some spots on the objects in his environment, on the walls and so forth. | LRH: And let's spot some spots on the objects in his environment, on the walls and so forth. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Let's spot some more. How's this getting now? This getting better? | LRH: Let's spot some more. How's this getting now? This getting better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Worse? Huh? Getting easier? All right. Now while in the robot's head get the idea that you cannot get out of it. | LRH: Worse? Huh? Getting easier? All right. Now while in the robot's head get the idea that you cannot get out of it. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now change that idea to being able to get out of it. | LRH: Now change that idea to being able to get out of it. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Good. Now be in this body's head. | LRH: Good. Now be in this body's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You got that? | LRH: You got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? All right. Now spot some spots in this environment. | LRH: Hm? All right. Now spot some spots in this environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You do that? | LRH: You do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Good. Is it getting better or worse? | LRH: Good. Is it getting better or worse? |
PC: No better, no worse either. | PC: No better, no worse either. |
LRH: It's not getting any better? | LRH: It's not getting any better? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: What are you spotting? | LRH: What are you spotting? |
PC: Things. Objects. | PC: Things. Objects. |
LRH: What? | LRH: What? |
PC: Walls. | PC: Walls. |
LRH: Point to them. | LRH: Point to them. |
PC: Okay. There. | PC: Okay. There. |
LRH: What's there? Are you looking at it? | LRH: What's there? Are you looking at it? |
PC: Yeah, no. I'm... | PC: Yeah, no. I'm... |
LRH: Come on, let's look at that curtain! | LRH: Come on, let's look at that curtain! |
PC: I'm,.. | PC: I'm,.. |
LRH: What are you doing? Sitting there figure-figuring if there's a curtain there? | LRH: What are you doing? Sitting there figure-figuring if there's a curtain there? |
PC: No. No. There is one there. | PC: No. No. There is one there. |
LRH: Well, look at that curtain. | LRH: Well, look at that curtain. |
PC: I can get the idea of it. . | PC: I can get the idea of it. . |
LRH: Yeah. Look at it. Did you do that? Did it bite? | LRH: Yeah. Look at it. Did you do that? Did it bite? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Well, all right. Look at it. | LRH: Well, all right. Look at it. |
PC: Awful vague. | PC: Awful vague. |
LRH: All right. But you looked at it didn't you? Huh? | LRH: All right. But you looked at it didn't you? Huh? |
PC: I'm not sure. | PC: I'm not sure. |
LRH: You're not sure. Let's look at another object in this environment. | LRH: You're not sure. Let's look at another object in this environment. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What? | LRH: What? |
PC: That radio down there. | PC: That radio down there. |
LRH: Is it there? | LRH: Is it there? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Are you looking at it? | LRH: Are you looking at it? |
PC: Well... | PC: Well... |
LRH: Or are you kind of pervasively knowing it is there. | LRH: Or are you kind of pervasively knowing it is there. |
PC: Well, I know it's there. | PC: Well, I know it's there. |
LRH: You know it's there? | LRH: You know it's there? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: Why don't you look at it? Something horrible happen here if you were to look-did look at it? Would it bite? | LRH: Why don't you look at it? Something horrible happen here if you were to look-did look at it? Would it bite? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: It wouldn't bite? | LRH: It wouldn't bite? |
PC: Hm-mm. | PC: Hm-mm. |
LRH: Huh? Well, just look at it. What's the matter? | LRH: Huh? Well, just look at it. What's the matter? |
PC: Nothing the matter, except... | PC: Nothing the matter, except... |
LRH: Except what? | LRH: Except what? |
PC: I can't see it. | PC: I can't see it. |
LRH: What are you looking at? What do you see? | LRH: What are you looking at? What do you see? |
PC: Well, I get the idea of looking at it. | PC: Well, I get the idea of looking at it. |
LRH: What do you see? | LRH: What do you see? |
PC: Nothing. | PC: Nothing. |
LRH: All right. What's the nothing look like? | LRH: All right. What's the nothing look like? |
PC: Nothing - just nothing. | PC: Nothing - just nothing. |
LRH: All right. Look at it. | LRH: All right. Look at it. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Are you looking at nothing? | LRH: Are you looking at nothing? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm. That right? Boy, don't tell me I'm running across this one. There's more preclears who will sit there and tell you that they're looking at nothing and this is physically impossible for them to do. There is no slightest possibility for their being able to sit there. | LRH: Hm. That right? Boy, don't tell me I'm running across this one. There's more preclears who will sit there and tell you that they're looking at nothing and this is physically impossible for them to do. There is no slightest possibility for their being able to sit there. |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: You bang them around for a little while and you say, „Well, goddamn it. There's something there. Take a look at it. What it is?“ And they finally tell you that it is a black wall or a gray mist or some comets or something of the sort. Now, Smokey, you take a look at it. | LRH: You bang them around for a little while and you say, „Well, goddamn it. There's something there. Take a look at it. What it is?“ And they finally tell you that it is a black wall or a gray mist or some comets or something of the sort. Now, Smokey, you take a look at it. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: What are you looking at? | LRH: What are you looking at? |
PC: Well, I'll say that it is a gray mist. | PC: Well, I'll say that it is a gray mist. |
LRH: You'll say it is? | LRH: You'll say it is? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Have you looked at something? | LRH: Have you looked at something? |
PC: Looks like it. | PC: Looks like it. |
LRH: Huh? You are looking at something, though, aren't you? | LRH: Huh? You are looking at something, though, aren't you? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Are you? | LRH: Are you? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Let's look around. Is there something else around there to look at? | LRH: Let's look around. Is there something else around there to look at? |
PC: I put something there. | PC: I put something there. |
LRH: You've put something there? | LRH: You've put something there? |
PC: I can put something there. | PC: I can put something there. |
LRH: Well, is there - what are you looking at before you put something there? | LRH: Well, is there - what are you looking at before you put something there? |
PC: Just some gray mist. | PC: Just some gray mist. |
LRH: Is it all around you? | LRH: Is it all around you? |
PC: Well, I don't know. I can't see all around me. | PC: Well, I don't know. I can't see all around me. |
LRH: Oh, oh. It's impossible to see. | LRH: Oh, oh. It's impossible to see. |
PC: Yes, it is. | PC: Yes, it is. |
LRH: It is all around you? Well, this is curious. Spot a spot in this room. | LRH: It is all around you? Well, this is curious. Spot a spot in this room. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: What? | LRH: What? |
PC: A spot on that wall. | PC: A spot on that wall. |
LRH: All right. Look at it. Did you do that? | LRH: All right. Look at it. Did you do that? |
PC: I get the idea of the wall. | PC: I get the idea of the wall. |
LRH: You getting the idea better? | LRH: You getting the idea better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? You getting the idea better? | LRH: Hm? You getting the idea better? |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: Are you or aren't you? | LRH: Are you or aren't you? |
PC: Well, yes. When I say I look at it, I know that I do. | PC: Well, yes. When I say I look at it, I know that I do. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot another spot in this room. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot another spot in this room. |
PC: Real vague. Okay Mm-hmm. | PC: Real vague. Okay Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Probably remote viewpoints or something. What you looking at now? | LRH: Probably remote viewpoints or something. What you looking at now? |
PC: The stove top. | PC: The stove top. |
LRH: Stove top? How do you know it's there? | LRH: Stove top? How do you know it's there? |
PC: Why, I just know it is. | PC: Why, I just know it is. |
LRH: Are you looking at it? Do you see a stove top? | LRH: Are you looking at it? Do you see a stove top? |
PC: I get the idea I can see it. | PC: I get the idea I can see it. |
LRH: Do you see a stove top? | LRH: Do you see a stove top? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Well, you look around until you can find something you can look at in this room. There's something here. | LRH: Well, you look around until you can find something you can look at in this room. There's something here. |
PC: There's a lot of things here, and I know it. | PC: There's a lot of things here, and I know it. |
LRH: You acutely conscious of them? | LRH: You acutely conscious of them? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: You're very conscious of them? | LRH: You're very conscious of them? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Let's take a look at these things. | LRH: All right. Let's take a look at these things. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: All right. Which is the least harmful of them? | LRH: All right. Which is the least harmful of them? |
PC: Oh, I don't think any of them are harmful. | PC: Oh, I don't think any of them are harmful. |
LRH: None of them? | LRH: None of them? |
PC: Hm-mm. | PC: Hm-mm. |
LRH: Which are the least pouncey of them? | LRH: Which are the least pouncey of them? |
PC: Well, that white board up there. | PC: Well, that white board up there. |
LRH: All right. That's the least pouncey, huh? | LRH: All right. That's the least pouncey, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Well, take a look at it. What's the matter? | LRH: Well, take a look at it. What's the matter? |
PC: I'd just love to. I get - I know it's there. I get the idea of looking at it. | PC: I'd just love to. I get - I know it's there. I get the idea of looking at it. |
LRH: What's looking at it, Smokey? | LRH: What's looking at it, Smokey? |
PC: Seeing it. | PC: Seeing it. |
LRH: Yeah, but what, I mean, what have you got, a point up there some place that is doing your looking for you or something? | LRH: Yeah, but what, I mean, what have you got, a point up there some place that is doing your looking for you or something? |
PC: Oh, there ain't nothing doing my looking for me. If they would, I would disown them. | PC: Oh, there ain't nothing doing my looking for me. If they would, I would disown them. |
LRH: Okay. | LRH: Okay. |
PC: ... for good. | PC: ... for good. |
LRH: All right. All right. Now, let's you be - let's be in this robot's head. | LRH: All right. All right. Now, let's you be - let's be in this robot's head. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Okay. Now let's look around his environment. | LRH: Okay. Now let's look around his environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now, got that? | LRH: Now, got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly see anything there. | LRH: Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly see anything there. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Let's get the idea you couldn't possibly see anything there. | LRH: Let's get the idea you couldn't possibly see anything there. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Let's get the idea that you could. | LRH: Let's get the idea that you could. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Get the idea you couldn't possibly see anything there. | LRH: Get the idea you couldn't possibly see anything there. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Let's get the idea that you could. | LRH: Let's get the idea that you could. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Got that? | LRH: Got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of his head. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of his head. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Let's be in this body. | LRH: Let's be in this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots in this environment. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots in this environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Whatcha doing? | LRH: Whatcha doing? |
PC: Spotting spots. | PC: Spotting spots. |
LRH: Is it better? | LRH: Is it better? |
PC: It's there. It's here. | PC: It's there. It's here. |
LRH: Oh, it's here now? | LRH: Oh, it's here now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. All around. | PC: Mm-hmm. All around. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. Is it more here than it was? | LRH: Mm-hmm. Is it more here than it was? |
PC: A shade. | PC: A shade. |
LRH: Just a shade. All right, fine. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly see anything. | LRH: Just a shade. All right, fine. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly see anything. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you could. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Would you better that idea, too? | LRH: Would you better that idea, too? |
PC: What'd you say? | PC: What'd you say? |
LRH: I told you to get the idea you could see something. What did you get? | LRH: I told you to get the idea you could see something. What did you get? |
PC: Well, I got the idea that I could. | PC: Well, I got the idea that I could. |
LRH: Oh, I see but that you aren't. What's the modifier on this „that I could“? How are you modifying this? | LRH: Oh, I see but that you aren't. What's the modifier on this „that I could“? How are you modifying this? |
PC: I don't know. | PC: I don't know. |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you couldn't see anything out of this body. | LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you couldn't see anything out of this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly. | LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Okay. Are some locks coming off there? | LRH: Okay. Are some locks coming off there? |
PC: Probably | PC: Probably |
LRH: Are they or aren't they? | LRH: Are they or aren't they? |
PC: I wasn't conscious of them. | PC: I wasn't conscious of them. |
LRH: All right. Then they weren't. All right, fine. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. | LRH: All right. Then they weren't. All right, fine. Now let's get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Getting that a little better? | LRH: All right. Getting that a little better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Is there any change in the way you are doing it or are you just changing your-. | LRH: Is there any change in the way you are doing it or are you just changing your-. |
PC: Yeah. There's a change. | PC: Yeah. There's a change. |
LRH: All right. Fine. Fine. Now let's be in the robot's head. | LRH: All right. Fine. Fine. Now let's be in the robot's head. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Got that now? | LRH: Got that now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots in his environment. | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots in his environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How is it now? Better? Worse? | LRH: How is it now? Better? Worse? |
PC: His environment's getting a little dimmer. | PC: His environment's getting a little dimmer. |
LRH: It's dimmer? | LRH: It's dimmer? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea - . | LRH: All right. Now get the idea - . |
PC: At least it's not as solid-looking. | PC: At least it's not as solid-looking. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: It's not as solid looking. | PC: It's not as solid looking. |
LRH: It's not as solid looking. | LRH: It's not as solid looking. |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Gray? | LRH: Gray? |
PC: No, not exactly, no - . | PC: No, not exactly, no - . |
LRH: What color is it? | LRH: What color is it? |
PC: It's gray, and there's some yellow. | PC: It's gray, and there's some yellow. |
LRH: Oh, I see. Well, all right. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this robot's head. | LRH: Oh, I see. Well, all right. Now get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Let's make it into a production: „Oh, I couldn't possibly get out of his head. I'm stuck there forever.“ Go on. Make a production out of it. | LRH: Let's make it into a production: „Oh, I couldn't possibly get out of his head. I'm stuck there forever.“ Go on. Make a production out of it. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Got that? „Oh, woe is me!“ | LRH: Got that? „Oh, woe is me!“ |
PC: Dismal. | PC: Dismal. |
LRH: Dedicated to robotizing forever. | LRH: Dedicated to robotizing forever. |
PC: Real dismal. | PC: Real dismal. |
LRH: „Oh, woe!“ All right, now, good. What's the matter? | LRH: „Oh, woe!“ All right, now, good. What's the matter? |
PC: It's real dismal there. It's dismal all around. | PC: It's real dismal there. It's dismal all around. |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you can get out of the robot's head. | LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you can get out of the robot's head. |
PC: Hm. Yeah. | PC: Hm. Yeah. |
LRH: Got that? | LRH: Got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Fine. Be in this body's head. | LRH: All right. Fine. Be in this body's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Did you do this? | LRH: Did you do this? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Swell. Now let's spot some spots in this environment. | LRH: All right. Swell. Now let's spot some spots in this environment. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Did you do that? | LRH: Did you do that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How are you making it? How are you making it? | LRH: How are you making it? How are you making it? |
PC: Well, I'm spotting spots there. | PC: Well, I'm spotting spots there. |
LRH: Good. Where are they? | LRH: Good. Where are they? |
PC: Here and there. There. There. | PC: Here and there. There. There. |
LRH: Are you getting more rapid at it? | LRH: Are you getting more rapid at it? |
PC: Mm, pretty rapid. | PC: Mm, pretty rapid. |
LRH: Okay. Are they there? | LRH: Okay. Are they there? |
PC: Sure, they're there. | PC: Sure, they're there. |
LRH: You know they're there? | LRH: You know they're there? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How do you know they are there? | LRH: How do you know they are there? |
PC: I know. | PC: I know. |
LRH: You just know. | LRH: You just know. |
PC: I just know. | PC: I just know. |
LRH: How about seeing them? | LRH: How about seeing them? |
PC: I can get a vague... | PC: I can get a vague... |
LRH: All right. Now let's look at this vague. | LRH: All right. Now let's look at this vague. |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: All right. Let's spot some vagues. | LRH: All right. Let's spot some vagues. |
PC: Oops. | PC: Oops. |
LRH: Let's spot some vagues in this environment. | LRH: Let's spot some vagues in this environment. |
PC: Okay. All right. | PC: Okay. All right. |
LRH: How's that? Is that more satisfactory? | LRH: How's that? Is that more satisfactory? |
PC: Oh, no! | PC: Oh, no! |
LRH: No? Oh, my. | LRH: No? Oh, my. |
PC: Well, it'd... no. | PC: Well, it'd... no. |
LRH: No. All right. Let's spot some more spots in this environment. | LRH: No. All right. Let's spot some more spots in this environment. |
PC: Still vague spots? | PC: Still vague spots? |
LRH: No - just anything you got. | LRH: No - just anything you got. |
PC: All right. Mm-hm. | PC: All right. Mm-hm. |
LRH: How are you now, hm? | LRH: How are you now, hm? |
PC: What'd you say? | PC: What'd you say? |
LRH: How are you now? | LRH: How are you now? |
PC: Oh, I am all right. | PC: Oh, I am all right. |
LRH: Why'd you say, „What'd I say?“ Where were you? | LRH: Why'd you say, „What'd I say?“ Where were you? |
PC: Well, I was almost seeing something. | PC: Well, I was almost seeing something. |
LRH: No kidding! | LRH: No kidding! |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Oh, gee. Did I spoil it? | LRH: Oh, gee. Did I spoil it? |
PC: No. Hm-mm. | PC: No. Hm-mm. |
LRH: Didn't spoil it. Can't even blame me? | LRH: Didn't spoil it. Can't even blame me? |
PC: Well, I wouldn't blame you anyway because I - I mean, it didn't bother - . | PC: Well, I wouldn't blame you anyway because I - I mean, it didn't bother - . |
LRH: All right. Okay. Let's spot some more spots in this environment. | LRH: All right. Okay. Let's spot some more spots in this environment. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Okay. What did you spot? | LRH: Okay. What did you spot? |
PC: Walls. | PC: Walls. |
LRH: Mm-hm. | LRH: Mm-hm. |
PC: Back there's some. | PC: Back there's some. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: And over there. | PC: And over there. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: And the window over the door. | PC: And the window over the door. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: Looks like a bicycle handle on that mike, | PC: Looks like a bicycle handle on that mike, |
LRH: All right. Fine. Fine. All right. What have you got? Give me that last one. | LRH: All right. Fine. Fine. All right. What have you got? Give me that last one. |
PC: The rod on the mike. | PC: The rod on the mike. |
LRH: Okay. Is this getting better? | LRH: Okay. Is this getting better? |
PC: Yeah, I think it is. | PC: Yeah, I think it is. |
LRH: Oh, that's too bad. All right. All right, now, I want you to get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. | LRH: Oh, that's too bad. All right. All right, now, I want you to get the idea that you couldn't possibly get out of this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Get - make a production out of it. It would be utterly fatal if you did. Go on. | LRH: Get - make a production out of it. It would be utterly fatal if you did. Go on. |
PC: I'd probably be dizzy and everything. | PC: I'd probably be dizzy and everything. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. Make a good production out of it. | LRH: Mm-hmm. Make a good production out of it. |
PC: In fact, I'll never be able to get out of it. | PC: In fact, I'll never be able to get out of it. |
LRH: That's right. That's good. That's fine. Have you added, „No matter what anybody does“ to that? | LRH: That's right. That's good. That's fine. Have you added, „No matter what anybody does“ to that? |
PC: It doesn't make any difference. | PC: It doesn't make any difference. |
LRH: Yeah, that's good. That's good. Now you got that real solid? | LRH: Yeah, that's good. That's good. Now you got that real solid? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now change it to the fact that you could get out of it with the greatest of ease. | LRH: All right. Now change it to the fact that you could get out of it with the greatest of ease. |
PC: I feel real easy about it. | PC: I feel real easy about it. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: I feel real easy about it. I get that idea real well. | PC: I feel real easy about it. I get that idea real well. |
LRH: Well good. Fine. Now let's be in the robot's head. | LRH: Well good. Fine. Now let's be in the robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Okay. How's he doing by the way? | LRH: Okay. How's he doing by the way? |
PC: Oh god, he's just real still. | PC: Oh god, he's just real still. |
LRH: Real still, huh? | LRH: Real still, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots - . | LRH: All right. Now let's spot some spots - . |
PC: I think he's been there forever. | PC: I think he's been there forever. |
LRH: All right. Been there forever. All right. Let's spot some spots in his environment. | LRH: All right. Been there forever. All right. Let's spot some spots in his environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What you got? | LRH: What you got? |
PC: Spots. | PC: Spots. |
LRH: Getting them real good? | LRH: Getting them real good? |
PC: Pretty good. | PC: Pretty good. |
LRH: Worse? | LRH: Worse? |
PC: No, not worse. | PC: No, not worse. |
LRH: All right. Spot some spots there. What's the matter? | LRH: All right. Spot some spots there. What's the matter? |
PC: Well, his environment is a real cell. Just a... | PC: Well, his environment is a real cell. Just a... |
LRH: Hm? Just what? | LRH: Hm? Just what? |
PC: Just walls and... | PC: Just walls and... |
LRH: Oh, boy. | LRH: Oh, boy. |
PC: Wow. | PC: Wow. |
LRH: All right. All right. Now let's get the idea that you'll never get out of there. | LRH: All right. All right. Now let's get the idea that you'll never get out of there. |
PC: That's easy to do. | PC: That's easy to do. |
LRH: All right. Now, let's change that to you'll be able to get out of there. | LRH: All right. Now, let's change that to you'll be able to get out of there. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Change that to you can get out of there any instant. | LRH: Change that to you can get out of there any instant. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Change that to you can get out of there at will. | LRH: Change that to you can get out of there at will. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Under your own steam. | LRH: Under your own steam. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Without even an auditor. | LRH: Without even an auditor. |
PC: Allright. | PC: Allright. |
LRH: Just going way up scale here. All right. And be in this body. | LRH: Just going way up scale here. All right. And be in this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now, let's spot some spots in this body's environment. | LRH: Now, let's spot some spots in this body's environment. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How are we doing here? | LRH: How are we doing here? |
PC: Pretty well. A little slow on this. | PC: Pretty well. A little slow on this. |
LRH: Oh, nobody's rushing you. A little slow on what? | LRH: Oh, nobody's rushing you. A little slow on what? |
PC: Spotting the spots. | PC: Spotting the spots. |
LRH: Spotting the spots? | LRH: Spotting the spots? |
PC: I'm getting them now. | PC: I'm getting them now. |
LRH: You're getting them now, though? | LRH: You're getting them now, though? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. | LRH: All right. |
PC: Like I'm straining to see it. | PC: Like I'm straining to see it. |
LRH: You got to strain to see them, huh? | LRH: You got to strain to see them, huh? |
PC: I'm straining to. Yeah. | PC: I'm straining to. Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Are you doing it? | LRH: All right. Are you doing it? |
PC: Well, I sure get the idea that I'm doing it anyway. | PC: Well, I sure get the idea that I'm doing it anyway. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. | LRH: Mm-hmm. |
PC: That rug there. | PC: That rug there. |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: It kind of aggravates me. | PC: It kind of aggravates me. |
LRH: Why does it aggravate you? | LRH: Why does it aggravate you? |
PC: Because I want to do it. | PC: Because I want to do it. |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
PC: Because I want to do it, but I can't. | PC: Because I want to do it, but I can't. |
LRH: All right. Now you got the idea real solidly that you can't? | LRH: All right. Now you got the idea real solidly that you can't? |
PC: In fact, I'm burning an awful lot of energy! | PC: In fact, I'm burning an awful lot of energy! |
LRH: No kidding? | LRH: No kidding? |
PC: No kidding! | PC: No kidding! |
LRH: Burning a lot of energy to what? | LRH: Burning a lot of energy to what? |
PC: Yeah! | PC: Yeah! |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
PC: I'm real warm! | PC: I'm real warm! |
LRH: No kidding? | LRH: No kidding? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm. | LRH: Hm. |
PC: Hm. Phew! | PC: Hm. Phew! |
LRH: Let's spot some more spots in this environment. | LRH: Let's spot some more spots in this environment. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Okay. How are you doing? | LRH: Okay. How are you doing? |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Well, what are you doing? | LRH: Well, what are you doing? |
PC: Spotting spots. | PC: Spotting spots. |
LRH: All right. Point out a couple of them that you've spotted. | LRH: All right. Point out a couple of them that you've spotted. |
PC: There's a ball back there. | PC: There's a ball back there. |
LRH: Is that there? | LRH: Is that there? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: You know it's there. | LRH: You know it's there. |
PC: It was there when I looked. | PC: It was there when I looked. |
LRH: Okay. Fine. | LRH: Okay. Fine. |
PC: And some spots over here on this wall. | PC: And some spots over here on this wall. |
LRH: Good. | LRH: Good. |
PC: Still some more down here, the floor, the ceiling, those lights and that curtain. | PC: Still some more down here, the floor, the ceiling, those lights and that curtain. |
LRH: Hm? Well, good. Good. Now let's get - let's get the idea that you'll never be able to get out of this body. | LRH: Hm? Well, good. Good. Now let's get - let's get the idea that you'll never be able to get out of this body. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Well, let's get the idea that you can. | LRH: Well, let's get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And let's get the idea again you'll never, never be able to get out. | LRH: And let's get the idea again you'll never, never be able to get out. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Get that easily? | LRH: Get that easily? |
PC: Not too easily; but I get it. | PC: Not too easily; but I get it. |
LRH: All right. Get the idea you can never get out. | LRH: All right. Get the idea you can never get out. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And now change that to you can get out. | LRH: And now change that to you can get out. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You get that more easily now? | LRH: You get that more easily now? |
PC: Yeah, there's a - a shifting - . | PC: Yeah, there's a - a shifting - . |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: A feeling of shifting. | PC: A feeling of shifting. |
LRH: Hm. All right, get the idea that you can't get out. | LRH: Hm. All right, get the idea that you can't get out. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Did you do that now? | LRH: All right. Did you do that now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: It's nothing, except a feeling of shifting. | PC: It's nothing, except a feeling of shifting. |
LRH: All right. You got that feeling, though, huh? | LRH: All right. You got that feeling, though, huh? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that energy can trap you. | LRH: All right. Now let's get the idea that energy can trap you. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Got that? | LRH: Got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now change that to the fact that energy can't. | LRH: Now change that to the fact that energy can't. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Got that? | LRH: Got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Again. Energy can trap you. | LRH: All right. Again. Energy can trap you. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And once more energy can't. | LRH: And once more energy can't. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Now how's that? | LRH: Now how's that? |
PC: That's - that's a good idea. | PC: That's - that's a good idea. |
LRH: All right. Get again the idea that energy can trap you. | LRH: All right. Get again the idea that energy can trap you. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And again that it can't. | LRH: And again that it can't. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Got that? | LRH: Got that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you're in the robot's head. | LRH: All right. Now get the idea that you're in the robot's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And let's spot some spots in his environment. What's the matter? | LRH: And let's spot some spots in his environment. What's the matter? |
PC: I - his - his environment - . | PC: I - his - his environment - . |
LRH: What's the matter with it? | LRH: What's the matter with it? |
PC: It's all messed up. | PC: It's all messed up. |
LRH: What's the matter with his environment? | LRH: What's the matter with his environment? |
PC: Well, it's sort of not very solid. | PC: Well, it's sort of not very solid. |
LRH: Oh? Thin, huh? | LRH: Oh? Thin, huh? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: How is it messed up? | LRH: How is it messed up? |
PC: Well, that machine over there is all - just an - it's just not solid. | PC: Well, that machine over there is all - just an - it's just not solid. |
LRH: Is it fragments? | LRH: Is it fragments? |
PC: It's sort of yeah - sort of chewed up. | PC: It's sort of yeah - sort of chewed up. |
LRH: Not only is it not solid, but it's chewed up too. | LRH: Not only is it not solid, but it's chewed up too. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Okay. | LRH: Okay. |
PC: And that ledge around the top is sort of crumbly-like. | PC: And that ledge around the top is sort of crumbly-like. |
LRH: The what around the top? | LRH: The what around the top? |
PC: Ledge. | PC: Ledge. |
LRH: No kidding? | LRH: No kidding? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now, let's get the idea that you'll never get out of here. | LRH: All right. Now, let's get the idea that you'll never get out of here. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. | LRH: Now let's get the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And again, you'll never get out of here. | LRH: And again, you'll never get out of here. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: And now the idea that you can. | LRH: And now the idea that you can. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How's that? Getting it more solidly? | LRH: How's that? Getting it more solidly? |
PC: The idea is, yeah. | PC: The idea is, yeah. |
LRH: Oh, the idea. All right, now have his whole environment start saying okay to you. | LRH: Oh, the idea. All right, now have his whole environment start saying okay to you. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Make it do it easily? | LRH: Make it do it easily? |
PC: Fairly easy. | PC: Fairly easy. |
LRH: What happens when you do that? | LRH: What happens when you do that? |
PC: Well, it gets even more unreal. | PC: Well, it gets even more unreal. |
LRH: Gets more unreal? All right. Have the environment say okay some more. What's occurring? | LRH: Gets more unreal? All right. Have the environment say okay some more. What's occurring? |
PC: Well, it gets solider. | PC: Well, it gets solider. |
LRH: Now it's getting - . | LRH: Now it's getting - . |
PC: I mean it's getting solider than it was. | PC: I mean it's getting solider than it was. |
LRH: All right. Have it say okay some more to you. Was it saying okay to you or was it just saying okay? | LRH: All right. Have it say okay some more to you. Was it saying okay to you or was it just saying okay? |
PC: Just saying okay to me. | PC: Just saying okay to me. |
LRH: All right. Have it say okay to you some more. | LRH: All right. Have it say okay to you some more. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How's that now, getting solider? | LRH: How's that now, getting solider? |
PC: Huh-uh. | PC: Huh-uh. |
LRH: Did it get thinner again? | LRH: Did it get thinner again? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right, have it say okay to you some more. | LRH: All right, have it say okay to you some more. |
Now what's it doing? | Now what's it doing? |
PC: It just - it's so thin to me that it's just not anything there. | PC: It just - it's so thin to me that it's just not anything there. |
LRH: There's hardly anything there at all now, huh? | LRH: There's hardly anything there at all now, huh? |
PC: Huh-uh. | PC: Huh-uh. |
LRH: Well, have it say okay to you some more. Yeah, okay, what's occurring? | LRH: Well, have it say okay to you some more. Yeah, okay, what's occurring? |
PC: It seems to be down there. | PC: It seems to be down there. |
LRH: Seems to be further from you? | LRH: Seems to be further from you? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Have that environment say okay to you some more. | LRH: All right. Have that environment say okay to you some more. |
Now where is it? | Now where is it? |
PC: Whew. Way down there. | PC: Whew. Way down there. |
LRH: Way down there. | LRH: Way down there. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Have it say okay to you some more. Okay, how are you doing on that now? | LRH: All right. Have it say okay to you some more. Okay, how are you doing on that now? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Practically gone? | LRH: Practically gone? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Be in this body's head. | LRH: All right. Be in this body's head. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Got this better now? | LRH: Got this better now? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Let's spot some spots in this room. | LRH: All right. Let's spot some spots in this room. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How's that, hm? | LRH: How's that, hm? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Better? | LRH: Better? |
PC: A little bit. | PC: A little bit. |
LRH: A little bit better? | LRH: A little bit better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now I want you to have various spots in this room say okay to you. | LRH: All right. Now I want you to have various spots in this room say okay to you. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: How are you doing? | LRH: How are you doing? |
PC: Oh, I get real tense about this. | PC: Oh, I get real tense about this. |
LRH: Get tense about it? | LRH: Get tense about it? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: Well, there's nothing the matter, I just get tense. | PC: Well, there's nothing the matter, I just get tense. |
LRH: Your tenseness suddenly turn on? | LRH: Your tenseness suddenly turn on? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Are you tense quite often? | LRH: Are you tense quite often? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No? All right. Now, let's have just some more spots in this room say okay to you. Okay, how are you doing now? | LRH: No? All right. Now, let's have just some more spots in this room say okay to you. Okay, how are you doing now? |
PC: Real peculiar. | PC: Real peculiar. |
LRH: What's happening? | LRH: What's happening? |
PC: I don't know. Just - . | PC: I don't know. Just - . |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: Sort of - sort of an isolated feeling that's real out of this world. | PC: Sort of - sort of an isolated feeling that's real out of this world. |
LRH: You've got an isolated feeling, huh? | LRH: You've got an isolated feeling, huh? |
PC: Wow! | PC: Wow! |
LRH: Wow, all right. Now let's have let's have some spots in this room say hello to you. Okay, what are you doing now? | LRH: Wow, all right. Now let's have let's have some spots in this room say hello to you. Okay, what are you doing now? |
PC: Having this - having spots all around say hello. | PC: Having this - having spots all around say hello. |
LRH: All right. | LRH: All right. |
PC: Whew! | PC: Whew! |
LRH: Is that - still give you that isolated feeling? | LRH: Is that - still give you that isolated feeling? |
PC: Yeah! | PC: Yeah! |
LRH: Worse? | LRH: Worse? |
PC: Well, no, I wouldn't say it was worse. | PC: Well, no, I wouldn't say it was worse. |
LRH: All right. Now have all these spots, a lot of spots in this room, objects and spots in this room, one after the other, say okay to you. | LRH: All right. Now have all these spots, a lot of spots in this room, objects and spots in this room, one after the other, say okay to you. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: How are you doing? | LRH: How are you doing? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: How's that isolated feeling seem to you? | LRH: How's that isolated feeling seem to you? |
PC: I still have it. | PC: I still have it. |
LRH: Is it worse? | LRH: Is it worse? |
PC: It doesn't seem unpleasant, but it's just - just isolated. | PC: It doesn't seem unpleasant, but it's just - just isolated. |
LRH: Does it seem worse? Is it getting stronger or weaker? | LRH: Does it seem worse? Is it getting stronger or weaker? |
PC: Stronger. | PC: Stronger. |
LRH: Stronger! Well, all right. Now let's have the spots in this room say okay to you. | LRH: Stronger! Well, all right. Now let's have the spots in this room say okay to you. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right, how is it going now? | LRH: All right, how is it going now? |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Worse? | LRH: Worse? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Isolated feeling is getting less now? | LRH: Isolated feeling is getting less now? |
PC: Well, it wasn't in evidence too much this time, but the brightness - . | PC: Well, it wasn't in evidence too much this time, but the brightness - . |
LRH: What brightness? | LRH: What brightness? |
PC: Well, there is a brightness. | PC: Well, there is a brightness. |
LRH: Where? | LRH: Where? |
PC: Well, sort of all around. | PC: Well, sort of all around. |
LRH: A brightness all around? | LRH: A brightness all around? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Well, good. Fine. Now let's have all the various objects in this room, one after the other, each one individually, say hello to you. | LRH: Well, good. Fine. Now let's have all the various objects in this room, one after the other, each one individually, say hello to you. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Okay, how is it? | LRH: Okay, how is it? |
PC: It's nice. | PC: It's nice. |
LRH: Oh, it's getting nice now? | LRH: Oh, it's getting nice now? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You feel quite as isolated? | LRH: You feel quite as isolated? |
PC: Well yes, it isn't - . Yeah. | PC: Well yes, it isn't - . Yeah. |
LRH: Is it a pleasant feeling? | LRH: Is it a pleasant feeling? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: In what sense do you feel isolated? | LRH: In what sense do you feel isolated? |
PC: Well, I don't feel - I mean, I don't know how to express that. | PC: Well, I don't feel - I mean, I don't know how to express that. |
LRH: Express what? | LRH: Express what? |
PC: In what way do I feel isolated. | PC: In what way do I feel isolated. |
LRH: You just do? | LRH: You just do? |
PC: I just do. | PC: I just do. |
LRH: You feel detached from the room? | LRH: You feel detached from the room? |
PC: Why, yes. | PC: Why, yes. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. Do you feel detached from the chair? | LRH: Mm-hmm. Do you feel detached from the chair? |
PC: Yeah, until you mentioned it. | PC: Yeah, until you mentioned it. |
LRH: Huh? | LRH: Huh? |
LRH: Yeah. | LRH: Yeah. |
LRH: Do you feel detached from the body? | LRH: Do you feel detached from the body? |
PC: In a way, yeah. | PC: In a way, yeah. |
LRH: Which way? | LRH: Which way? |
PC: Well, it just doesn't - it just doesn't seem like anything there. | PC: Well, it just doesn't - it just doesn't seem like anything there. |
LRH: Mm-hmm. Okay. Now let's have - you were having them say hello before? | LRH: Mm-hmm. Okay. Now let's have - you were having them say hello before? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: All right, now let's have them all say okay. | LRH: All right, now let's have them all say okay. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: All right, what's occurring now? | LRH: All right, what's occurring now? |
PC: I feel sort of a shifting, swirling like - . | PC: I feel sort of a shifting, swirling like - . |
LRH: Feel a what? | LRH: Feel a what? |
PC: Sort of a swirling-. | PC: Sort of a swirling-. |
LRH: You feel a whirling sensation? | LRH: You feel a whirling sensation? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Is that so? | LRH: Is that so? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Whereabouts? | LRH: Whereabouts? |
PC: All around. | PC: All around. |
LRH: All around the room? | LRH: All around the room? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: All around me. | PC: All around me. |
LRH: Is the room swirling? | LRH: Is the room swirling? |
PC: No, no. | PC: No, no. |
LRH: Are you whirling? | LRH: Are you whirling? |
PC: Might have been. Felt like it. Sort of shifting. | PC: Might have been. Felt like it. Sort of shifting. |
LRH: Were you making things say hello, or okay rather? | LRH: Were you making things say hello, or okay rather? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: You were still doing it? | LRH: You were still doing it? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: You hadn't shifted your attention off that? | LRH: You hadn't shifted your attention off that? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: All right. Now let's make some more things say hello to you, things in this room say hello. | LRH: All right. Now let's make some more things say hello to you, things in this room say hello. |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Now, how're you doing? Things still whirling? | LRH: Now, how're you doing? Things still whirling? |
PC: No, it's sort of settled down. | PC: No, it's sort of settled down. |
LRH: All right. What's the matter, you feel a little breathless? | LRH: All right. What's the matter, you feel a little breathless? |
PC: No. Just different. | PC: No. Just different. |
LRH: All right. Let's have some more things say hello to you. | LRH: All right. Let's have some more things say hello to you. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right, how's it going now? | LRH: All right, how's it going now? |
PC: Okay. There's - . | PC: Okay. There's - . |
LRH: There's what? | LRH: There's what? |
PC: Dim - dims and gets brighter. | PC: Dim - dims and gets brighter. |
LRH: What does? | LRH: What does? |
PC: Things around me. | PC: Things around me. |
LRH: Oh, really? | LRH: Oh, really? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's have some more things in the room say okay. | LRH: All right. Now let's have some more things in the room say okay. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right. Now, how's that? | LRH: All right. Now, how's that? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Looking a little better? | LRH: Looking a little better? |
PC: Yeah. Shifting. | PC: Yeah. Shifting. |
LRH: What's shifting? | LRH: What's shifting? |
PC: The dimness and brightness is shifting. | PC: The dimness and brightness is shifting. |
LRH: Is it shifting more violently? | LRH: Is it shifting more violently? |
PC: More rapidly. | PC: More rapidly. |
LRH: Oh, it is, huh? | LRH: Oh, it is, huh? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Well, have some more things say hello to you, in the room. All right, what's this change of perception doing now? | LRH: Well, have some more things say hello to you, in the room. All right, what's this change of perception doing now? |
PC: It's still doing that. | PC: It's still doing that. |
LRH: Stronger? | LRH: Stronger? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Oh, it's even stronger? | LRH: Oh, it's even stronger? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Where is it, inside your body somewhere? | LRH: Where is it, inside your body somewhere? |
PC: Oh - no. | PC: Oh - no. |
LRH: No? Around you? | LRH: No? Around you? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Where are you? | LRH: Where are you? |
PC: I'm right here. | PC: I'm right here. |
LRH: All right, you're right here. And where's the body? | LRH: All right, you're right here. And where's the body? |
PC: Right here, too. | PC: Right here, too. |
LRH: Is it here? | LRH: Is it here? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Is it a distance from you? | LRH: Is it a distance from you? |
PC: Not too far. I mean - I don't know. | PC: Not too far. I mean - I don't know. |
LRH: All right. Now let's have the room say okay to you some more. | LRH: All right. Now let's have the room say okay to you some more. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right, how's that going? | LRH: All right, how's that going? |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: This dimness and brightness getting faster? | LRH: This dimness and brightness getting faster? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Making you uncomfortable? | LRH: Making you uncomfortable? |
PC: A little. Mm-hmm. | PC: A little. Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Now let's have the room say to you, in a very friendly voice, in all directions, everything in the room, start saying to you „Hello.“ | LRH: All right. Now let's have the room say to you, in a very friendly voice, in all directions, everything in the room, start saying to you „Hello.“ |
PC: Okay | PC: Okay |
LRH: Now, how's that? That slow it down a little bit? | LRH: Now, how's that? That slow it down a little bit? |
PC: Yeah, it did, but - . | PC: Yeah, it did, but - . |
LRH: All right. Now let's have everything in the room start saying to you „Okay that you have this condition.“ | LRH: All right. Now let's have everything in the room start saying to you „Okay that you have this condition.“ |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: „It's okay for you to have this condition.“ | LRH: „It's okay for you to have this condition.“ |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: How's that? | LRH: How's that? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: What's happening to this condition? | LRH: What's happening to this condition? |
PC: It gets real detached. | PC: It gets real detached. |
LRH: Gets real what? | LRH: Gets real what? |
PC: Detached feeling. | PC: Detached feeling. |
LRH: Really? | LRH: Really? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Well good. Now just have things in the room, now, continue to say, „Okay for you to have this condition.“ | LRH: Well good. Now just have things in the room, now, continue to say, „Okay for you to have this condition.“ |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Okay, how's it going now? What's the matter? | LRH: Okay, how's it going now? What's the matter? |
PC: Whoo! | PC: Whoo! |
LRH: What's the matter? Relief? | LRH: What's the matter? Relief? |
PC: No, I mean, I don't know it's - . | PC: No, I mean, I don't know it's - . |
LRH: Worse? | LRH: Worse? |
PC: Whee! | PC: Whee! |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: I felt real detached then. | PC: I felt real detached then. |
LRH: You did, huh? | LRH: You did, huh? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Gone for good, huh? | LRH: Gone for good, huh? |
PC: Well, no, I wouldn't be gone from me! | PC: Well, no, I wouldn't be gone from me! |
LRH: All right. Now you tell the room okay for a while. | LRH: All right. Now you tell the room okay for a while. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right. How's that now? Is that leveling out? What's the matter? | LRH: All right. How's that now? Is that leveling out? What's the matter? |
PC: No! | PC: No! |
LRH: You don't know? | LRH: You don't know? |
PC: I do know; it's lopsided. | PC: I do know; it's lopsided. |
LRH: The room is? | LRH: The room is? |
PC: Or I am! | PC: Or I am! |
LRH: All right. Let's tell the room hello some more. And you say hello and the room says okay, and you say hello and the room says okay. | LRH: All right. Let's tell the room hello some more. And you say hello and the room says okay, and you say hello and the room says okay. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: How's that going now? | LRH: How's that going now? |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Getting a little better? Room a little less lopsided? | LRH: Getting a little better? Room a little less lopsided? |
PC: You mean, am I? | PC: You mean, am I? |
LRH: Are you a little less lopsided? | LRH: Are you a little less lopsided? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: All right. All right. Now, let's do that some more; you say hello and the room says okay. All right, how's that doing now, huh? | LRH: All right. All right. Now, let's do that some more; you say hello and the room says okay. All right, how's that doing now, huh? |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: You worse? | LRH: You worse? |
PC: No, I just feel real tall. | PC: No, I just feel real tall. |
LRH: Real what? | LRH: Real what? |
PC: Real - I mean, I feel stretched. | PC: Real - I mean, I feel stretched. |
LRH: You feel stretched? | LRH: You feel stretched? |
PC: Yes! | PC: Yes! |
LRH: Okay. Which way? | LRH: Okay. Which way? |
PC: Bzooogg! | PC: Bzooogg! |
LRH: Oh, really? | LRH: Oh, really? |
PC: Yes. | PC: Yes. |
LRH: You say hello and the room says okay - . | LRH: You say hello and the room says okay - . |
PC: Whew! I'll say hello to the mike too. | PC: Whew! I'll say hello to the mike too. |
LRH: All right. How's that going? | LRH: All right. How's that going? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right. Now, you have the room say hello and you say okay for awhile. | LRH: All right. Now, you have the room say hello and you say okay for awhile. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: All right. How's that going? | LRH: All right. How's that going? |
PC: Fine. | PC: Fine. |
LRH: How do you feel? | LRH: How do you feel? |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: You leveling out? You getting the proper proportions? | LRH: You leveling out? You getting the proper proportions? |
PC: Oh, I'm not sure about that! | PC: Oh, I'm not sure about that! |
LRH: What's the matter? | LRH: What's the matter? |
PC: Well, there's so many shifts. | PC: Well, there's so many shifts. |
LRH: You just keep shifting? | LRH: You just keep shifting? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Oh, really? Isn't that interesting. Puzzling isn't it? | LRH: Oh, really? Isn't that interesting. Puzzling isn't it? |
PC: Well, no, I mean, I didn't puzzle about it. I was just interested in it. | PC: Well, no, I mean, I didn't puzzle about it. I was just interested in it. |
LRH: Okay. All right. Now, let's - let's just have the room - all the objects in the room chorus at once, many times over, okay to you. | LRH: Okay. All right. Now, let's - let's just have the room - all the objects in the room chorus at once, many times over, okay to you. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Are you getting better? | LRH: Are you getting better? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: You going through all these shapes now? | LRH: You going through all these shapes now? |
PC: Not all of them. I think I left some of them out. | PC: Not all of them. I think I left some of them out. |
LRH: Okay. All right. Now you just spot some spots in the room now. | LRH: Okay. All right. Now you just spot some spots in the room now. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: How's that going? | LRH: How's that going? |
PC: Pretty good. | PC: Pretty good. |
LRH: That smooth you right on down? | LRH: That smooth you right on down? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: It smoothed me down, soothe me down. | PC: It smoothed me down, soothe me down. |
LRH: Soothe you a little bit? | LRH: Soothe you a little bit? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: All right. Let's spot some more spots, some more objects in the room. | LRH: All right. Let's spot some more spots, some more objects in the room. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Spot some more objects in the room? | LRH: Spot some more objects in the room? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: Are you doing it more easily than you did at the beginning of the session? | LRH: Are you doing it more easily than you did at the beginning of the session? |
PC: Yes, I think I am. Yes. | PC: Yes, I think I am. Yes. |
LRH: You think you are? | LRH: You think you are? |
PC: I know I am. | PC: I know I am. |
LRH: You know you are? | LRH: You know you are? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Are the objects there to be spotted? | LRH: Are the objects there to be spotted? |
PC: Yes, they're there. | PC: Yes, they're there. |
LRH: All right. Go on. What else were you going to tell me? | LRH: All right. Go on. What else were you going to tell me? |
PC: Some of them are closer. | PC: Some of them are closer. |
LRH: Oh, really? Why, is the room out of shape in some fashion? | LRH: Oh, really? Why, is the room out of shape in some fashion? |
PC: Well, not exactly. : | PC: Well, not exactly. : |
LRH: What is it? | LRH: What is it? |
PC: It - well, maybe it is out of shape. No, it's not out of shape. | PC: It - well, maybe it is out of shape. No, it's not out of shape. |
LRH: What is it? | LRH: What is it? |
PC: Well, I can see them closer, or I have the idea that they're closer. | PC: Well, I can see them closer, or I have the idea that they're closer. |
LRH: These things are closer to you? | LRH: These things are closer to you? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Things are closer to you than they were before? | LRH: Things are closer to you than they were before? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Ah. What's the matter? It's all right, what's the matter? | LRH: Ah. What's the matter? It's all right, what's the matter? |
PC: It's real odd. | PC: It's real odd. |
LRH: Real odd, huh? | LRH: Real odd, huh? |
PC: Yeah. It's just funny. | PC: Yeah. It's just funny. |
LRH: Well, open your eyes. | LRH: Well, open your eyes. |
PC: I'm afraid to. Well it is, too. | PC: I'm afraid to. Well it is, too. |
LRH: Things are closer to you? | LRH: Things are closer to you? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Reach out and touch one. | LRH: Reach out and touch one. |
PC: I'll bet I touch that one. | PC: I'll bet I touch that one. |
LRH: All right. | LRH: All right. |
PC: Okay Wow. | PC: Okay Wow. |
LRH: Is that closer to you? | LRH: Is that closer to you? |
PC: That is, too. | PC: That is, too. |
LRH: How about the floor? | LRH: How about the floor? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Is that closer to you? | LRH: Is that closer to you? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Oh, gee, this is bad, isn't it? | LRH: Oh, gee, this is bad, isn't it? |
PC: It's different. | PC: It's different. |
LRH: It's different? | LRH: It's different? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. How about that recorder there? | LRH: All right. How about that recorder there? |
PC: They're all closer The walls are closer than they were. | PC: They're all closer The walls are closer than they were. |
LRH: The walls are closer Well, are they plainer to you? | LRH: The walls are closer Well, are they plainer to you? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: They a brighter color? | LRH: They a brighter color? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Something like that? | LRH: Something like that? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Why don't you feel the floor | LRH: Why don't you feel the floor |
PC: Yeah. I feel it. I feel it. | PC: Yeah. I feel it. I feel it. |
LRH: Does it feel more than it felt before? | LRH: Does it feel more than it felt before? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: All right. Feel the chair. | LRH: All right. Feel the chair. |
PC: Thah, that's real. | PC: Thah, that's real. |
LRH: Is that real good? | LRH: Is that real good? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Is it solid? | LRH: Is it solid? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Are things solider? | LRH: Are things solider? |
PC: Well, it's a - . | PC: Well, it's a - . |
LRH: What? | LRH: What? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Are things solider than they were? All right, feel the floor. | LRH: Are things solider than they were? All right, feel the floor. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Feel the chair. | LRH: Feel the chair. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Feel the floor. | LRH: Feel the floor. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Feel the chair. | LRH: Feel the chair. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Feel the floor | LRH: Feel the floor |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Feel the chair. | LRH: Feel the chair. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Remember something that's real. | LRH: Remember something that's real. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: All right. Remember something else that's real. | LRH: All right. Remember something else that's real. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Remember something else that's real. | LRH: Remember something else that's real. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Remember something else that's real. | LRH: Remember something else that's real. |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: Remember something else that's real. | LRH: Remember something else that's real. |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: Remember something else that's real. | LRH: Remember something else that's real. |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: All right. Now, how about this room? Is this room closer to you? | LRH: All right. Now, how about this room? Is this room closer to you? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Is that better or worse? | LRH: Is that better or worse? |
PC: Seems all right. | PC: Seems all right. |
LRH: Should it be this close or should it be the same distance it was before? | LRH: Should it be this close or should it be the same distance it was before? |
PC: Oh, I don't think so. I think it's all right the way it is. | PC: Oh, I don't think so. I think it's all right the way it is. |
LRH: It's all right the way it is. Is it the proper proportions? | LRH: It's all right the way it is. Is it the proper proportions? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? Is the ceiling square? Huh? | LRH: Hm? Is the ceiling square? Huh? |
PC: No, it isn't square. | PC: No, it isn't square. |
LRH: All right, what is it? | LRH: All right, what is it? |
PC: It's long, oblong, I think that's what it's called. | PC: It's long, oblong, I think that's what it's called. |
LRH: All right, good. Is that a 90 degree angle up there? | LRH: All right, good. Is that a 90 degree angle up there? |
PC: Ninety degrees - that's - if it's straight up and down, that's right. | PC: Ninety degrees - that's - if it's straight up and down, that's right. |
LRH: That's 180, straight up and down. | LRH: That's 180, straight up and down. |
PC: Well, it's not 90. | PC: Well, it's not 90. |
LRH: All right. 90 is where it takes a right angle turn. | LRH: All right. 90 is where it takes a right angle turn. |
PC: Well it isn't, it's straight up and down. | PC: Well it isn't, it's straight up and down. |
LRH: Straight up and down. | LRH: Straight up and down. |
PC: In proper proportions. | PC: In proper proportions. |
LRH: It's in proper proportion. Take a look at Wing there, is he - . | LRH: It's in proper proportion. Take a look at Wing there, is he - . |
PC: Yeah, he's in proper proportions. | PC: Yeah, he's in proper proportions. |
LRH: Is he in proper proportions, he hasn't got green eyes or anything? | LRH: Is he in proper proportions, he hasn't got green eyes or anything? |
PC: Well, I mean, things are the way they should be right now. | PC: Well, I mean, things are the way they should be right now. |
LRH: They should be this way? | LRH: They should be this way? |
PC: Mm-hmm. Sure. | PC: Mm-hmm. Sure. |
LRH: Make you feel a little better to know that they're this way? | LRH: Make you feel a little better to know that they're this way? |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: I was surprised that they would change, I mean, well, that's all right. | PC: I was surprised that they would change, I mean, well, that's all right. |
LRH: You're surprised they would change? | LRH: You're surprised they would change? |
PC: Uh-huh. | PC: Uh-huh. |
LRH: Okay. Find the floor. | LRH: Okay. Find the floor. |
PC: I've got it. | PC: I've got it. |
LRH: Find the chair. | LRH: Find the chair. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Remember something real. | LRH: Remember something real. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Think of something real big. | LRH: Think of something real big. |
PC: Yup. | PC: Yup. |
LRH: Think of something real small. | LRH: Think of something real small. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Think of something real big. | LRH: Think of something real big. |
PC: Something else. | PC: Something else. |
LRH: Real small. | LRH: Real small. |
PC: Mm-hmm. | PC: Mm-hmm. |
LRH: Okay, how do you feel now? | LRH: Okay, how do you feel now? |
PC: I feel fine. | PC: I feel fine. |
LRH: All right. End of session. | LRH: All right. End of session. |
PC: Thank you. | PC: Thank you. |