Now to some degree (this is the second afternoon lecture uh… December the 11th) – to some degree you may find some of the data I give you – uh… unless you take a look at the way it’s being oriented – somewhat rambling. Well, maybe it is rambling. Uh… but uh… actually, I’m demonstrating something to you – we keep picking up things and then orienting them back to a point. In other words, we’re demonstrating data, a central data and its evaluation against many other data. And we just keep picking that up and bringing it back in.

This is the lecture of December 11th, first hour afternoon. And we have here a few little things, odds and ends that we should button up about this and that.

And we start talking about running regular things. Well, we show how that swings back in again.

Got a textbook, SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008. And the actual truth of the matter is that uh… your text is a highly precise rundown – highly precise from the standpoint of very little space devoted to anything. The data is there, but has about the same adroitness as a Browning machine gun. It uh… just says, „fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact.“ And uh… it disposes of, on page 38, all past methods of processing, in the following paragraphs – 38, „Methods of running. There are many methods of running – facsimiles and handling ridges and flows. These have been covered in other publications. All of them have validity and can advance cases.

Uh… having to have and not having to have is, of course, a form of agreement. And we keep swinging back into agreement which we undo with mock-ups – simple isn’t it?

„In the present publication there are only two processes which are stressed and these processes are superior to others published prior to December 1st, 1952.

Having to have, and trying to avoid having to have – it’s a very funny thing that this works out so… so easily. This speaks of, first, a cultivated desire: The person had to have a desire in some direction or another in order to go down tone scale. The thetan was picked up way up tone scale and Desire, and uh… so forth, is way up tone scale. So we come down tone scale a little bit on Desire.

„A great many tests have established the fact that two processes, both of them simple, produce far better results than any of the others.

Then when his desire paled, somebody of course, had to enforce it to keep it going. That brought him down tone scale a little further. And when he’d enforced it to a point where it was IMPOSSIBLE to do without it, then you inhibit it so the guy can’t have it.

„The title SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 means the attainment of… of infinity by the reduction of the MEST universe as apparent infinity to zero, and the increase of the zero of one’s own universe to an infinity of one’s own universe.

And that’s any item or thought or belief.

„This road is attained by postulate processing and creative processing. To run any incident or use any process, it is necessary for the auditor to have a very sound idea of what he is doing; and to this end it is recommended that he know and be able to use the following processes.

Let’s take a thought on this line – let’s take Christianity – that’s a handy example. Lot of people know something about Christianity. There are a few still left in the society who do. And uh… the uh… we get Desire at the top. Yes, sir, sure enough, you tell somebody, „Life immortal – this is the route to life immortal. Here we go.“

„Processing. The code, the theta entity, the entities, running engrams, running secondaries, running locks, concepts and feelings, running ridges, circuits, running live flow, freeing the thetan by concept and feeling, freeing the thetan by present and future randomity, freeing by dichotomies, freeing by tone scale, freeing the thetan by orientation, freeing the thetan by positioning and exhaustion of flows.“

And of course, everybody knew that there was a route to life immortal. They knew that instinctively and many other religions before Christianity had gotten into beautiful condition by selling Immortality. I almost called it, „Pie in the sky“ but I – that’s a Communist term and I don’t want to be partisan.

End of paragraph. The next one is, „Postulate Processing,“ which is one of the things.

Uh… the war of ideas and ideologies is a fascinating war. All right?

Now uh… it’s… it’s what you call… what you call the amount of space occupied here. There’s 38 – that’s about two-thirds of the page. Uh… the amount of data that really occupies that small two-thirds of a page there has been the subject of, let us say, oh, I should say offhand, a million and a half words, two million written words – something like that. And I don’t know how many words of lectures.

Here we have, then, immortality and they rig it out aesthetically – give it good story value that’s all. Here it is a nice aesthetic. You desire to have immortality.

Now if you want to go over this and look it over step by step, it is pretty important that you have some conversance with this, because an auditor will start running some sort of a… he’ll just run postulates and all of a sudden, boom! Or he’ll all of a sudden start running mock-ups. Or he’ll suddenly start going through exercises of lifting and Boom! There’ll be phenomena lying there. And he’ll think he’s looking at something that is just – oh boy! I mean gosh!

Now, then the next step is – you go through this ritual, you get immortality. That’s good. The next step is, down the line from that, that it’s very, very good – little stronger salesmanship – and uh… by the time the guy has bought this, he then buys the next step down the scale which is, „And if you don’t buy pie in the sky“ – pardon me – „immortality uh… if you don’t buy this, we’re going to send you to hell. And hell’s a terrible place.“ And you know hell was really – really interesting at first. It was just „Hell.“

„You mean when you start to lift uh… the lifting exercises and so on, with… with… with energy, you… you mean that… and… and the preclear’s got a log across his legs?“ And he’ll say, „That’s very funny. Log across his’ legs. Now let’s see. I know some about Freudian symbolism and uh… log across his legs, this is probably uh… ear envy. And uh… uh… let’s see now. That probably associates itself in some fashion or another as… it’s a… you said it’s a log?“

By the way, do you know what the first Hell was? Everybody hoped, but thoroughly, all through the civilized world, that Rome, the corrupt prostitute of all nations, would roast in its tracks. And they hoped because of the volcanic action of Italy, that one day the ground would suddenly go „Burp!“ and a roaring sea of lava would eat up Palatine Hill and the rest of Rome. This was the slavemaster of the world, and they wanted Rome to turn into a sea of lava.

And the fellow said, „Yeah, yeah. It’s a log. The log’s. lying right here across my legs and that’s why I can’t lift one of my legs.“ „Let’s see now uh… oh, it’s a log! It’s got bark on it.“ „Yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah!“ „Oh, you don’t like dogs. Okay here we go.“

And at first when they talked about Hell, they weren’t talking about any personal Hell, they were talking about fire would occur. And they were trying to sell everybody on the basis of the disappearance of Rome. This was really – a bunch of press agents probably got – I’ve got a friend that says, „You know,“ he said, „I finally figured out how all this happened. There was a bunch of the boys got together in Rome and uh… they worked this all out – something like a bunch of hot advertising men or something – press boys – and they worked this all out and they sold it in an effort to undo and bring down in a crash the Roman Empire.“ And it sure went in that direction. Of course, he’s just joking. (It’s all true, in actual fact.)

Now that can be the subject of a long dissertation about the fact… they always start in this way. The squirrels are wonderful. They spend two seconds observing, uh… five minutes contemplating the glories of having observed, and then many months talking about the phenomena.

And uh… when uh… when uh… they got uh… Rome all burned up and in flames, they thought, then they’d all be in fine shape. Well, that was the level of salesmanship at that time. It had dropped down from a good, aesthetic, beautiful desire, down to a desire that had to do with pain directed toward a certain object (Rome) mixed up.

But uh… nowhere along this track do you find very much data. And… and I would be the subject of many letters uh… long letters describing this log across the preclear’s legs. That’s… that’s right – I mean, this has happened time after time. This falls into the band of facsimiles and it would fall into the category of probably a past-life facsimile.

Now, people still weren’t buying pie in the sky the way they ought to buy pie in the sky, so the next step down was, „You know we’ve been a little bit…“ Uh… by the way, they… in Nero’s time a bunch of criminals set fire to Rome and uh… this ambition was almost realized. And then they all blamed it on Nero. And uh… said – attributed it to the sympathic vibrations of his violin strings or something. And uh… we got uh… pie in the sky as a glut commodity.

We were trying one exercise last night, Nibs and I, just fooling around, and so forth. We were knocking facsimiles into view faster than any auditor has ever been able to locate them in the past, by doing what? By trying to lift his ankle, that’s all. He was lying down, he was just trying to lift his ankle, he was fooling around with it rather arduously by snapping anchor points around – just interesting stuff. And first he found (you don’t mind my mentioning this) uh… first he found three corpsmen holding him down in a tonsillectomy and he blew them through the roof. And uh… then he found a log across his legs and uh… blew that out. And then he found eight times when that leg had been fractured, and uh… four times when the other leg had been fractured. And uh… that’s all back along the track somewhere.

You know there hadn’t been – they first expected, you know, just heaven to suddenly open up in this lifetime and there they’d be – there they’d be, right there. Oh, no. That wasn’t what happened, so they finally were saying it was after death that this took place. Oh, bunch lot less people started buying it.

These… these facsimiles just kept flying off, flying off. Of course, he couldn’t lift his leg because of all these facsimiles.

So they said, „We’ve gotta make this commodity saleable,“ so they turned it into currency and enforced it with bayonets… – but spiritual bayonets. They said, „The hell of which we spoke is an actual hell, and you have your choice between going to that hell or going to heaven after death. And it all depends on whether or not you were a good boy before you died. And we can reach you after you’re dead – which is a temporal justice of kinds that uh… we enjoy.“

Well now, uh… the way he handles facsimiles, of course, he says, „Look, another picture“ and uh… pitches it out the nearest window, or… or uh… makes it disappear down the time track or something.

All right, next step then – people didn’t buy that worth a damn. A lot of people rushed in and uh… they had to make it a little bit better. And do you know, before they got through, they had seven hells?

But uh… preclears that you’re working uh… initially don’t have this skill. They… they… they say, „A log across the leg – okay. My agreement with the MEST universe says if I have a picture of a log across the leg, then I have a picture of a log across the leg, that isn’t a picture of a log across the leg, that’s actually a log. Therefore I pick up the weight factors in that log which is lying across the leg and I pick up all the other perceptics I had and let’s not forget the emotion on the thing. Ah, I’d better feel like I’m dying. Okay, here I go.“

Once in a while you’ll pick up this magic number „7“ on the track. It’s a prime number and therefore interesting to mathematicians. And there were seven this and seven that and seven stars and seven something or other. And there are seven hells.

And you could sit there and snap your fingers over this preclear for some time uh… insisting that he get this log across his legs by uh… get it off or on and so forth, in order to handle the facsimile.

Now very often you will find some preclear who is doing a bad spin on religion on account of religious implants, and you’ll find these confounded seven hells sitting there. And they’ve forgotten they ever heard of Dante’s Inferno and the Seven Hells – they’ve forgotten this utterly. There was a hell of ice and a hell of fire and a hell of something or other, and I don’t know what all the hells were but it’s an interesting study in sadism.

Well, of course, you’re handling the facsimile to get it into position so that it can be run. A person who cannot run a facsimile is simply unable to get the facsimile into the position where it can be run. That is, he could not move a picture before him, behind him, above him, below him and into last week. You get the idea? That’s why he can’t get the facsimile to run – it’s very simple. We’ll just short-circuit all that. You… you… you just get the person so that he can handle a facsimile, or handle a picture, handle mock-ups and pictures in this fashion – make them appear and disappear and increase and decrease and turn upside-down and the content changed. And uh… the next thing you know, why you’ve got yourself a nice smooth uh… facsimile there that uh… can be picked up and thrown out the window – it doesn’t have to be run. If… if you can orient it to this degree, well why run it? The guy’s handling it, isn’t he? And if his handling uh… is of this nature, why uh… let it go. Increase his ability to handle it.

But uh… that was enforcement. We’ve gotten down tone scale to enforcement, you see.

Now just above that level, you’ll start picking up the agreements which are sub to a postulate but are sort of a postulate. It’s… it’s… a postulate is something the fellow himself makes, and an agreement would be his co-postulating or his agreement with somebody else’s postulate. That is, acceptance of somebody else’s illusion which would be, of course, delusion for him.

And then they came down tone scale, finally got to a point where nobody was believing that but it took an awful long time for that curve to fall. And that curve finally fell at its lowest ebb of enforcement on earth – I mean, the heaviest ebb was the autodafé‚ in the hands of the Grand Inquisition of Spain under an infamous dope by the name of Torquemada whose life I have read in a book bound in human skin – how fitting.

Now uh… therefore uh… an auditor who doesn’t know the basic manifestations and what can happen uh… can have these things sort of fly into his face and get in his road and upset him and all that sort of thing. They’re liable to think all sorts of things.

Now Torquemada, Grand Inquisition – boy, they couldn’t be convinced that people weren’t convinced about these seven hells. Nobody’d ever come back and told them about ‘em. Uh… they… they couldn’t be interested too much in pie in the sky; they got much more interested in action here on earth and a lot of other things. And so the autodafé‚ really was a convincer. They’d put ‘em on a stake and they’d put the… put the stakes around them.

If they haven’t seen some of these things in operation, they don’t know they are there, and believe me, they’ll start to use an innocent little gimmickahoojit like… like mock-up processing. And all of a sudden Boom! Boom! Boom! There’ll be all sorts of phenomena. Now here’ll come… all of a sudden the preclear’s… you can practically see his hair standing straight back. And… and you say, „I wonder what’s happened? I wonder what’s happened? I mean, I’ve never seen anything like this. It must be some sort of an electrical disturbance in his vicinity someplace. And I just saw his hair standing up and – and uh… that’s very interesting because that lightning bolt that keeps flashing there uh… between his hands uh… certainly should…“

The only… the only crime was whether or not you accepted Church Doctrine. And a man could become a heretic for carrying his prayer book backwards. It was just getting to a level of idiocy on enforcement. Anything you did that was even vaguely to the disinterest of uh… the Church was greeted by an autodafé.

„Let’s write an article for the American Medical Association for this and… and say that electricity, when used on a preclear, is very bad because the electricity which goes through an E-Meter uh… seems to build up somehow and uh… gets up to the level of developing lightning bolts. And uh… this is what happens with E-meters and this is what E-meters do.“

British seamen uh… caught in a… in port or something like that, arrested, „Oh, uh… you don’t believe in God exactly the way you’re supposed to, therefore you’re an heretic“ – what do you know? They burned ‘em, just like that – that was all. Put ‘em against the stake.

You see, he could draw a completely different conclusion. He every once in a while will get ligh… get lightning bolts shooting around the place. Or he’ll just have some simple mock-up… have this girl – „Oh, you’ve got a headache? Well, have this beautiful girl stand behind your head.“ You see, you can use mock-up processing without theta clearing somebody and you can knock out chronic somatics boom! – boom!

They had hell of fire then which was personal, highly personalized hell. And there it was.

You say, „All right, mock up this beautiful girl and have her stand behind your head – you have a nice headache there – and then have her… have her patting your head. That’s fine, now have her come around to the front of you and sort of stroke your hair down on that side. That’s fine. Now have her move around to the side of you and put a green gown on her and have her pull off a small section of the skull, quietly and pleasantly, to find the headache. Oh, yes, yes. Now have her sew it up real good so that it won’t get away. And now have her turn your head back and forth.“

They had brought it down to an enforcement and their havingness of it had become so scarce that it was no longer an idea; it was an actuality which was an enforced actuality and so on.

And the fellow will say, „Say, you know, there seems to be some kind of an electrical storm going on around here.“ What you’re doing is blowing a ridge like mad, see. I mean, you’re not… you’re not just talking about this beautiful girl.

That was the grand tide of enforcement of the Christian Church.

The physical universe says, „Agree with me! Agree with me! Please! Please! Please! I’ll give you the seas, the stars, everything if you’ll just agree with me and… and uh… uh…“ That’s its latter stages. Its earlier stages, it says, „Oh, you’re disagreeing with me. Well, I’m going to ruin hell out of you.“ And it starts saying „Rowrr!“

And, what do you know? After that they got down tone scale to inhibition. They inhibited your having God unless – that was about the punishment level, that they inhibited you having God unless… you had to think a pure thought, or you had to spit pure spit or something of the sort. And uh… you… you were – there you were, and you couldn’t have God unless you were a pure soul and you wouldn’t know anything about it at all, and you had to have God at a price of, oh, I don’t know, 30 talents in some cases.

Well, any one of these things can result in lightning bolts passing from the left hand to the right hand. Any one of these things can result in… in fabulous manifestations, which are fabulous if you don’t know what they are, and they’re really very simple.

Recently some dame uh… some babe uh… pardon me. I… I keep classifying her correctly. Uh… some „lady“ uh… paid His… His… His uh… Royal – uh pardon me, uh… His uh… I don’t know. What do you call the guy? Oh, yeah. His… His uh… uh… Pope Pius? Pope Pius, that’s right. Paid him a million bucks-dollars cash to ratify her divorce properly. I mean, it had all been granted by states and bishops and everything else, but she finally had to pay him a billion bucks-dollars to knock it out.

So, when you start to do mock-up processing, don’t think you’re avoiding handling – you’re NOT avoiding handling. You’re not doing, mock-up processing in order to make these manifestations occur. You’re doing mock-up processing to make all such manifestations stop occurring for ever more until the end of time, such as ridges blowing, flows running, facsimiles jumping up and getting out of line, uh… locks being picked up, people getting upset because this and that happens to ‘em. You’re just ending this sort of thing.

But inhibition… inhibition, it’s got scarce. The mercy of God became very costly. It became more and more costly and more and more costly, more and more costly until it isn’t available at all now. You know, practically outside of one or two guys like Pope Pius, and I suppose there’s some whirling dervish up in the middle of the Stygian wastes or some place that you could go in and give ‘em a quick buck and they would say, „All right, we’ll give you a God – there you are, signed receipt.“ And it would be about the level.

Y… and the sooner you can bring it to a full halt… I’ll have to stop… stop talking about smoking brakes. Every time we were running an incident last night with Nibs, he got brake smoke because he’d stopped himself from going in some direction or another. Room got practically loaded with it. Wasn’t good lining he was using either. He’s had some kind of a scarcity complex or other – cheap lining.

Christianity has gotten to the point where it’s terrible scarce. You wouldn’t think so with all the churches you’ve got around, but I was talking about Christianity.

Anyway, uh… the… the list of phenomena should be at an auditor’s fingertips and should be easily identified by him, so that he never turns a hair. And I’ve just given you here a… really, a list of phenomena which is covered EXHAUSTIVELY in past processes. It’s just covered. There’s just ways of running this… this – Oh, my God! The last time I got uh… a small count of the number of surefire, positive, handy jim-dandy little techniques for handling black and white flows, I had over 80 techniques.

Now people have run many other things into this field. They have run practically every way you could think of to do something or be something or act some other way into this level. And you can get all sorts of things from a church now – anything but God.

And somebody wrote in the other day and said, „You know, I have a technique for handling black and white flows.“ Boy, that’s just… that… that’s… that’s like… that’s like uh… uh… taking a cubic foot of smoke to Pittsburgh – just pointless.

You can get basketball, bridge, bowling alleys, dances, bazaars – almost anything you want to. But don’t go in and ask for a hat full of God, because they haven’t got it to sell. It’s got an inhibition and then scarcity, but if they gave you any God it wouldn’t be the idea, the spiritual idea at all. It would be a piece of MEST. You can buy God – you can go down and buy a cross – and it’s MEST. It’s all solid now.

Now I have no doubt that there exist somewhere in that – in man or in beingness – types of things which have not been cataloged adequately, since this was not a cataloging job at any time; it was an action research. And it wasn’t a research. It was the first look. And it was just action – there it is, how do we handle it? „Why does he act that way?“ „Oh, here’s 8 reasons why he acts this way.“ „How many ways can we get to solve these?“ „Oh, we’ve got 52 reasons for every one of the 8.“ „Okay.“

Isn’t that interesting? Where we have Desire, Enforce and Inhibit and out through the bottom. And you have a dying, if not dead, religion. One whole nation swallowed in blood to get rid of it and bought another slavemaster much worse: Soviet Russia. Uh… other nations have a level of tolerance and fortunately never abandoned that thing which Rome abandoned.

And that was about the kind of research it was. It wasn’t saying, „Now, let’s carefully make a big, big catalog here: specimen 872 – Engrams when they are on the left-hand port quarter of the starboard side of the ruddy-rods uh… have in them, when they contain sonic perceptics, 1.682 ohms of resistance when in the proximity of…“ I mean, no scientist did this job.

Rome died the day it denied itself. The principle of self-denial is a very interesting principle. The fellow starts buckling up the day he says he didn’t say it, when he did. You know, he keeps saying… he keeps disowning, disowning his acts, disowning his acts, no responsibility, less and less responsibility and he’s gone.

See, that’s very obvious. It’s very obvious because there’s no catalog goes along with it. But there are frames of thinking which include all this phenomena. And you’re getting here, actually, when we take a rundown on this, frameworks of existence of phenomena. Something is going to fall in… well, if you find something it’ll fall into one of these baskets.

And Rome was founded on the secure foundation of religious freedom. All races could worship anything they wanted to worship. And on that basis it thrived and it absorbed any country because Roman law was superior to any other law there was. There was more fairness, better courts and better protection under the cloak of Rome than in any other governmental system on earth at that time. And people were even happy to have a Roman rule in preference to tyrants, fascists – something of the sort.

Now uh… it’ll fall into the baskets of pictures uh… in motion or in black and white or in color, which are still or motion pictures. And uh… they will fall into the catalog… that’s they contain all perceptics and there are over a hundred perceptics in each one of these pictures – it’s quite remarkable.

Romans were tough. They didn’t mince about things, but they had law and a province or a newly acquired country could, in time, become fully accredited so that they would have Roman citizenship which was right to right under law.

And that catalog or that frame expands out, then, to embrace what? Energy. Okay, I mean… and we’re right there on the common denominator. And when we start to handle energy we run into the framework of space. And so it falls into these categories.

And people actually would surrender up to Rome on this bait: justice. And she became powerful under this. She became powerful under it because she respected man, she respected the right that man should have, including the right of religious freedom.

Now the second we look at an object – „Arthritic knee“ – we know that we will find on it dammed up flows, energy not free somehow to run, we’ll find the preclear out of communication with it – we’ve got ARC – he’s out of communication with his own leg. And we could solve this in several ways. We can just hire a couple of… of gremlins uh… and uh… get the preclear to hire ‘em, and string some telegraph wire uh… down through to that knee. Or we could install pump mechanisms and uh… and all sorts of things in order to get circulation flowing through the knee again. That’s one of the most interesting mock-ups is to get somebody working on something like an arthritic knee.

By the way, that is a very, very relative term. You, for instance, today sit here with a constitution which guarantees religious freedom but, by golly, what would happen to you if you started to worship Baal? Man! How that would ring in the tabloids. If you started to worship Lucifer, if you started to worship any of the various gods…

„All right, let’s mock up… now let’s mock up a… a pneumatic drill. Okay. We’ve got that pneumatic drill? Now let’s start busting up some pavement with it. Okay. Now let’s move the pavement around back of your back and start busting it up back there. All right.“

One fellow, Allistair Crowley uh… picked up a level of religious worship which is very interesting – oh boy! The press played hocky with his head for his whole lifetime. The Great Beast – 666. He just had another level of religious worship.

„Now let’s move it up above your head and start breaking it up there, and let’s change the pneumatic drill to one of these great big widow-makers, the kind they take cliffs down with, you know? And let’s start busting up pavement with that. All right. You’re gettin’ that. And you see it’s falling down on you. Well,’ take one of those pieces – now make it fall upwards.“ We’ve finally accomplished that. Put it down below his feet and that sort of thing, and then put the whole thing into yesterday. He can’t put it into yesterday so we go to some gradient scale and we take a toothpick and we put that into yesterday. We take all kinds of things that have no real value and we put those into yesterday. We make them disappear.

Yes, sir. You’re free to worship everything under the Constitution so long as it’s Christian.

Then we find out if he’s making them disappear by dropping black curtains over them or stopping looking at them. Uh… and we solve that by letting him put lots of black curtains over them, and so forth, and still pick it up and find out it’s still there. You’ll find out after a while it’s still there unless he makes it disappear.

Don’t become Mohammedan. Nobody will come around and shoot you because you’re a Mohammedan, but don’t try to start Mohammedan churches. You’ll be discouraged very definitely.

And uh… we… we then drill him, „How do you know you had breakfast in 1932?“

As such, the freedom which man is guaranteed in the English-speaking world today is really not as wide as the freedom which he had as a Roman.

The fellow says, „Well, I’m still alive.“

‘Course, part of that freedom was if he got too badly off and too far into debt and unable to protect himself and if his friends all deserted him, he could be sold into slavery. Or soldiers taken in combat could be sold into slavery. They did not take these soldiers in combat and put them in a stockade and make them work for farmers (there’s no slavery in the modern world).

And uh… in other words, we solve time right on the spot. The first moment that we find out there is something flukey about him making things disappear, we just go on a gradient scale of havingness. We… we get him drilled until he can have or not have a picture, or have or not have an object.

Uh… there’s no slave camps in Russia. Slavery’s dead. Uh… what they do is… is… is… is they get these fellows on a want and an inhibit and – in… on an enforce and inhibit cycle and say, „You get your Saturday paycheck if you worship at the right time clock.“ That’s the God of the modern society: The time clock. He has a face the same shape as the dollar.

Now the worst gradient scale of the whole thing is to actually give him a toothpick, a MEST universe toothpick, and say, „Okay, you got this MEST universe toothpick?“ And he’ll look at it and he’ll say, „Yes.“

And uh… your society in Rome, then, suddenly denied itself. There was a race which was teaching certain doctrines – Christians, unwanted uh… unwanted gentiles, came into the Hebrew countryside and studied that religion and took it back out into the world. And uh… the people in those areas around Jerusalem and so on, didn’t have a pioneer spirit with this world… with this, they disowned these people, but these people still went out and preached this. And it had an interesting ingredient in it that no other religion up to the time had had in it. And Rome was unable to understand this. And that ingredient was hate. It’s perfectly all right, it… it… it… it’s uh… another thing to have in a religion. It’s neither bad nor good. These people were not trying to do a messianic job on the rest of the world, but gentiles used to come in there, and they’d join the church and then they’d go back to Con… well, Constantinople didn’t exist then, well, but go back to other places and start beating the drum for this new religion. That was before Christ.

And… and… and, „All right, now. Take it over and throw it out the window.“

And then this legend of Christ came along and people really started to beat the drum. Again the Hebrew didn’t keep this rolling, this people rolled in there an picked up this legend out of the rich legends of the Hebrew races and out she went – Ha-wham! And people went mad on this. They spun, they went up and down the pole like a… so many firemen at a five-alarm fire. They were… beautiful condition. They’d rush into Roman Courts and say, „Okay, here I am! Execute me!“ The Roman judge would say, „Well, really! Now after all. Can’t we just take this under advisement?“ And they kept getting justice and they didn’t want justice; they wanted blood, death and murder. They wanted to be a martyr!

Do you know how many preclears won’t do it? They’re really psycho when they won’t do that. They’ve got a toothpick and it might have some value, it might be connected to something or other, and so the best thing to do with this toothpick is sort of stick it in your pocket.

Oh, that’s a fascinating chapter and Rome finally said, „We’re so damn tired of this that hereinafter aforesaid Christianity is not going to be accepted by the Roman Empire,“ and what do you know – crash! Down came the Roman Empire – denied itself. It denied its principles and freedom and had begun to inhibit something. It had inhibited… inhibited God in one respect or another and down she went.

Some of them, real, real bad ones, won’t even give it back to the auditor. That’s just a gradient scale of things disappearing, you see. Time is just a trick method of making something disappear.

Interesting, it… You know that empire still kept going for another 800 years under various guises, but it certainly went up and down after a while. In the year five hundred and something A.D., the total population of Rome consisted of two wolves walking in the ruins of the Forum. Right back, the cycle had turned all the way.

Time is havingness, and when time i… goes along the line you get changingness in havingness – I mean you get alteration in havingness, and… or you can make something disappear. Well, you get anything to alter enough, you can get it altered small enough until he can’t see it. And then you say, „Hey, it disappeared, didn’t it?“

And we had this, then, as a descending spiral. And the reason I’m punching all this stuff up, I’m demonstrating something on a national, or Third Dynamic, level. It came back to this line-up: Here you had a philosophy injected which first entered with a desire, became an enforcement and an inhibition, and the first moment somebody had agreed, agreed on the level of ihihibition it died. And the first time there gets to be a heavy inhibition in any line, a thing dies because that inhibition level is, itself, death.

„Oh, no,“ he said, „I finally did it.“

This tells you, then, your preclear starts in this way. First dynamic, second, third, and forth – doesn’t matter where you pick him up. Here you’re looking at him.

Uh… that just… just run him onto that basis and then the next thing you know uh… what… what do you… what do you do with this arthritic knee? Well, it hasn’t got any circulation in it or something of the sort. So we take a knee uh… uh… any kind of a knee, and we put it way out there – can’t get a knee. So take an elbow. Work with this elbow until we finally take this pneumatic drill which he already knows how to use and bust… and then case the elbow in concrete and then break the concrete off the elbow. And just go through gradient steps like this until we finally have… up the line we finally have, oh, probably, great big pumps and uh… all sorts of prevention mechanisms installed, mechanical devices of all kinds and descriptions, doctors standing around in attendance, mechanics standing around in attendance on the machinery, uh… hot and cold running waitresses standing around to serve tea to the mechanics uh… all of this stuff.

You know that your preclears were a part of this whole picture? This dwindling spiral of religious freedom became part of the woof and warp of the life of most preclears, who actually followed through that period.

And we’ve got this, and the… and the person finally says, „You know, the hell with this knee.“ You know how fast that knee will go away? Just blink… just in a blink, if you do it right.

And now today they’re left with, then… there’s just the ashes. There’s… there’s nothing more sterile today than… than religion. It is dull, just dull beyond dull. It can’t be had – it’s too scarce.

Yeah, everybody knows it takes a long time for arthritis to go away. But if you’ve done a proper job on the thing, it’s gone, „blink“. And it might come back tomorrow, a little bit of it, you know? Just take him and renew all this machinery and make it much better and uh… fix it up much better and they say, „You know, I can’t get any sympathy for this knee. Of course, I’m not so sure that I need sympathy by now.“

You could go around any place you wanted to and set up a soap box or something of the sort, and start giving people God, and you’d survive. Evangelists do that on about the cheapest… cheapest guitar, git-fiddle level imaginable. They get over the radio and everything else. They’re just perfectly willing to give somebody God. And… and… by the… the communication lines that are set up are just fabulous. And yet this isn’t general at all; this is not a religious revival. This is the last flick-flack sparks of the fakir who is picking up at the pitch stand something that was once very grand.

But uh… on its recurrence, on a recurrence of a symptom, you always can expect a symptom to flash back on the preclear once in a while. Don’t worry about it (the preclear will) uh… why, get… get this knee and put it up in a… shop window on Main Street and have all kinds of people coming by and looking at it and feeling so sad because of the knee, you see? And then put it there as part of an underwear ad. And have them come by and feel so sorry for this knee. And then have all the members of the family come in very carefully. And then have the knee crowned with a crown and set on a throne so it can rule the whole world – I mean, any way you want to go this way, see.

I have no partiality with regard to religion. Anybody who wants to sell pie in the sky or hot air needs no license to survive from me.

All of a sudden they’ll say, „The hell with this thing! Why did I ever bring this up?“ Well, that’s right. They brought it up Lord knows how long ago, as a mechanism.

Uh… now, when we get down to cases, we find that this happened to the preclear. First he desired, then he finds out that he’s GOT to have what he originally desired, and then he can’t have it. And it just goes flick-flack down scale.

In other words, mock-ups directly apply to these things.

So as you run a preclear up scale, you’ve got to run him back to, to get rid of his knee, really, by mock-ups or have and have not or any other way, you’ve got to run him up scale to what? Desire to have the knee – he had a desire to have a bad knee. So let’s get him to have a desire to have a knee. And we’ll find out he made it a bad knee so that he could preserve it and so he could have a knee. He made it a bad knee so nobody else could have it. That’s your origin of chronic somatics.

What are you doing to it? You’re really doing this to it: You’re taking a part of the body which is disowned and for which the person is not responsible. A person has decided that that part of the body is harmful to him and he has actually cut communications with it and will not let it communicate in any direction.

He makes the body sick so it won’t be too desirable. In other words, he’s clear down bottom scale with this body: He’s down in inhibit.

This is very silly, because it stops its flows. It can’t flow. How the dickens can arthritis dissolve if the various glandular uh… secretions and so on in the blood stream that pick up calcium uh… if… if they don’t uh… go through the area? Or if the blood flow is slow through the area? So you get deposits, just as a river when it turns a corner leaves silt. Now uh… you’ve got a physiological condition. First, you… you just got concrete sitting in there. Well, just don’t try to solve it in terms of physical structure. True enough, a person can get sick. He can get sick from bacteria. Bacteria exist as far as he permits them to exist. If he’s down tone scale, he’ll permit bacteria to exist like mad. So he has bacteria and everybody has agreed ever since Pasteur that the… all these diseases were caused by it. Sure enough, they probably were. There were other factors involved, but there’s still bacteria.

And what do you know? We look up on our tone scale and we find out inhibition starts in at about 1.1 and goes right on down scale from 1.1 – and it’s death all the way.

The guy can still get chewed up by bubonic plague or yellow fever or cholera. Let him drink some water which has carefully had placed in it, as they do in China – I think they have little Chinese coolies around on all the streams to drop in uh… Asiatic cholera into the stream at so many… so many cholera cysts per cubic inch of water. I think it’s an awful lot of trouble, but I’m sure they do that, because I’ve never seen a sample of water in China that didn’t look like a menagerie, You look at it through a microscope.

So look up neurological illnesses and that sort of thing, on the SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL tone scale, and that’s what you find there. He’s got to inhibit the havingness of somebody else so he won’t get it.

And by the way, the Asiatic cholera cyst is a fascinating thing. It won’t dissolve in chlorine. Oh, I mean you can drop it into a heavy chlorine solution and leave it for hours and hours and hours – a heavier chlorine solution than you’d dare drink – and just leave it there for hours and hours and hours. And take it out and it’s just as alive – fascinating. That thing has really had things fight it! And is it armor-plated and protected! The way you do it, you boil water for about 10 minutes. Don’t eat vegetables, though, because, my Lord! If you ate vegetables that had Asiatic cholera spore on them… why, you could spray them with potassium permanganate. That ruins the flavor of the vegetable but you feel you have to have green stuff. As a matter of fact, you can get so craving, the phys… GE can crave greenery to such a degree that he’ll even do that – he’ll s… dip things in things like potassium permanganate and hope that it’ll do something to the bacteria. It won’t – not the Asiatic cholera.

He’s saying in another way, „Don’t eat me.“ He can’t say, „Don’t eat me“ with a club or a lightning bolt. He can’t say that. And up higher up tone scale he can’t – he’s very far from being able to say, „You don’t want to eat me, do you? You have no desire on the subject.“ And of course whatever it is that was trying to eat him would say, „Well, no, come to think about it, I don’t.“

And uh… the preclear can get sick from this cause, yes sir. The GE has agreed for a long time that he suddenly and inexplicably became sick. Well he went into apathy and didn’t observe bacteria any more. There’s no reason why he can’t look at bacteria. They can shoot a guy up with penicillin or something like that, or make him well from bacteria and fever.

That’s all – no force involved.

Of course, it is true that the bacteria can’t fasten upon him unless he’s weak in some fashion or another. But outside of that and the fact that you have to treat… treat a broken leg, and if a fellow has a tourni… is… if the fellow is bleeding to death, and pumping blood all over the place, this is no time to sit down and audit. Put a tourniquet on him. Uh… because uh… the thetan becomes inaccessable when his standard communication line, the body, goes out. Uh… he doesn’t if he’s up tone scale, but uh… this is not the preclear I’m talking about.

Now we go down tone scale a little bit and the fellow had to be able to say, „Oh-ho, you’re going to eat me, huh? Well, there’s your head“ – handed to him on a silver platter. „Oh, you’re going to eat me, are you? Ny, you taste good!“

All right, this means then that as far as a permanent structural goal is concerned, the devil with it! Don’t… your… your fella… don’t let him get operated on to have his tonsils removed or something of the sort, or teeth pulled on the theory that this is going to alter his condition permanently. That won’t. You see, this is a chronic condition – it’s something that extends over a long period of time, and so on. If it extends over a period of time, his havingness on it is, of course, very great. Right? So it isn’t going to be solved by tinkering around with surgery or something of the sort.

And we get down tone scale from that and the fellow can no longer say this, so he says, „Look, the reason you don’t want to eat me is because I’m really poison – boy! Am I poison. Look at the arthritis in that knee. Boy, would I disagree with you.“ He gets all sorts of reasons why he has to protect something.

If it’s an acute condition, just had an automobile accident, yes, you can solve the reason he has automobile accidents. If he’s just had one and his throat’s half cut – sew him up. Uh… emergency surgery or surgery which is directly addressed to an acute illness – he’s sick – is superior to auditing. The moment he’s had the surgery, however, run out the whole incident and the engram. He’ll get well. He’ll get well much faster if you do it that way. So here’s an acute state of disease, and here’s a long chronic state of disease. Well, it doesn’t do any good, really, broadly, to address surgery and drugs and monkey business and all sorts of cures and vitamins.

So you get somebody who starts out with great beauty. What do they do? They have to start protecting this beauty to maintain it. Now that’s a beautiful one, isn’t it? They can’t recreate the beauty; they can’t create it again. They know that another specious fact they can’t create anything. They can’t create the beauty, they think, so they sort of have to enforce the beauty of it. And you’ll get somebody going down tone scale on the subject of beauty. First they desired beauty, they were beauty – there was nothing to it. Uh… other people desired beauty, and then the other people – they still might have had the idea, but other people had decided they weren’t beautiful anymore.

The Japanese are wonderful. They’re one of the most unhealthy people uh… well. And, boy, do they take vitamins. They… Japanese Army, every time you took over a Japanese Army base you… you never found very much in the way of cameras or anything else. Some of the marine sergeants used to go around and kick the gold teeth out of the wounded and so on. But uh… uh… they… they used to consider that somewhat valuable because the Japanese love gold teeth. But uh… ooh! And uh… but the only stores you would find around… you might find a paucity of food, but you wouldn’t find any paucity of vitamins – great warehouses full of vitamins. Boy, did the Nipo believe in vitamins! I swear he fed his troops vitamins when he couldn’t feed ‘em anything else. They would… they would skip the rice ration if they had vitamins, and boy, were they unhealthy.

So what do they to do? They have to enforce this beauty. First they do it with powder and paint. Then they do it with exhibitionism. You’ll find in the cycle of somebody’s life, a period when he’s actually tried to go around and practically flout himself under the noses of other people. It might have happened quite early in his life, but that period’s always there – in a dwindling spiral. He’s just flouted himself. And he’s saying, „Look, you better think that I’m good-looking or else!“ Big row about it – „You don’t think I’m pretty anymore, that’s the trouble. That’s the whole thing. I’m going to cry unless…“ Enforced – enforced beauty.

You can actually feed a… an unbalanced vitamin ration where the vitamins and minerals are all unbalanced – and do what? And knock a preclear’s teeth out, knock his sight out, give him ulcers, do anything you want to to him by simply removing from the system the minerals and other things which are vital to a certain area. You give him an overbalanced ration – uh… let’s say it takes an awful lot of calcium to make teeth. And let’s give him a ration of vitamins, let’s pump him all up on proteins and minerals and vitamins – and omit the calcium. Huhh! The rest of the body is going to say, „Look, we’re rich and therefore we must have lots of calcium. Therefore if there’s lots of calcium around here, we naturally can build up everything and we can use the…“ Oh, boy! It doesn’t have any calcium, so it runs around – let’s see. It takes it out of the bones, it takes it out of the teeth, and so on. The first thing you know, the guy hasn’t got any teeth or something of the sort.

Now what do we get down at the bottom of the tone scale? – They finally wind up by making themselves uglier than they need be. They inhibit the existing beauty. „Oh! You don’t think I’m beautiful anymore? Well, you can’t see me beautiful?“ That’s all there is on this dwindling spiral.

You could actually vitamize an unbalanced vitamin ration. I picked up quite a process by that, by the way. I figured out the mineral content of many parts of the body, simply by overdoses of proteins and minerals and vitamins, and omitted, carefully, each vitamin in turn and each mineral in turn. And would overdose the guy to such a degree that he was developing such a thing as scurvy. You can induce scurvy this way.

Now we keep looking at these spirals, looking at these cycles of action. What are we doing? We just keep comparing data with the same data – agreement. In order to have any of the desire communicated, you have to have an agreement that it communicates. In order to enforce something, you have to have an agreement that it can be enforced. In order to inhibit something you have to have an agreement that it can be inhibited. And above that level of agreement, there has to have been postulates that this sort of a thing can take place – postulate, and then you agree with a postulate.

You can take vitamin C, omit it from the ration, and then give him a TERRIFIC dosage of proteins and vitamins and minerals – with no vitamin C, no ascorbic acid, and in eight or ten hours of such dosage you can give him a case of scurvy, the like of which you’ve never observed. You can have his teeth just rattling in his gums. Gums all swelling up – oh, fascinating!

Now you get agreement… agreement itself then, because it turns into flows, becomes eventually Agree and Disagree. And that is reality itself. You agree with it or you don’t agree with it. If you don’t agree with it, it doesn’t have reality. If you do agree with it, it does.

And uh… now – now do we know that that’s vitamin C causing it? Well, it’s the imbalance and the inability of the genetic entity to handle anything above MEST. Do you think he’s a superior illusion because he’s so solid? He’s a superior illusion because he’s used a solidity that uh… he took out of a more superior illusion, the MEST universe.

You can agree with it too much and you’re it. And you’re not you anymore.

And uh… he’s got this all stacked together. And you think he’s in wonderful… wonderful shape? Well, he can’t handle an imbalance like that. What do you do? How do you know it was vitamin C? How do you know it really went to the teeth? Why, sure. He’s got a bad… bad teeth now, hasn’t he? He temporarily… you haven’t ruined him. any, particularly. Now let’s just omit everything and let’s pump him full of vitamin C. Now the vitamin C is a sort of vacuum. And it goes instantaneously into the teeth and the gums and he will develop a toothache the like of which no dentist… dentists really ought to know about this. They’re pikers, I mean, with their drills and all of that sort of thing. They try, I know they try, and they’re good boys, and I know that some of those dentists that… that got down to the point of putting… putting spiked pads on their knees to put those on the patient’s chest. And these little refinements uh… that they’ve used – they’re still pikers. I’m sorry to have… they’d have to find this out eventually. But uh… you feed that guy, after he’s been overdosed in everything else – don’t feed him proteins or vitamins or minerals, just feed him vitamin C. And feed it to him fast, and feed it to him in great big doses like a thousand units, you know, a thousand milligrams at a crack.

So we get all these fascinating, fascinating uh… complexities arising out of what? The principle of the cycle of action, resulting from Q-1.

And he will develop a toothache that he would rather be SHOT than suffer. He can just feel those teeth as cracking and creaking and trying to go back together again too fast. Too much havingness, you see.

Now how does Q-1 exactly tie into Desire and Enforce and Inhibit? Very simply. Here we have theta, create, space, energy, objects, locate energy and objects in space. That’s what it really amounts to. And we get, under desire, we get an expansive thing. Desire is a created space – funny isn’t it? – at the first level that you get it in this universe.

And… and the scurvy will cure up. Of course, what you do after you’ve noticed this is just feed him some more proteins and vitamins and minerals, and they’ll take the vitamin C back out and they’ll tend to balance the ration.

Of course, above that level it’s a postulate. Just below that level it starts to be a flicker of agreement. And then we get this expansiveness. First moment we enter the MEST universe. Desire can be a very wide thing, high on the tone scale – high on the tone scale – very wide, expansive, so forth. The harmony and beauty of beauty nowhere shows up like it does in a BIG space.

You can balance him up and get him back to, quote, normal, unquote, again. But uh… now let’s take that… let’s take this whole formula with vitamin C in it this time – everything in it. And now let’s carefully remove B1. Oh, let’s remove B1. Yeah, that’s what we’ll do. This time we’ll give him an overdose of B1 afterwards. See, we’ll feed him up for about 10, 12 hours on all… a pluperfect ration of protein hydrolysate and all the fancy minerals in their most digestible form, no food, you see. I mean the protein is a food. Protein, and minerals and… and uh… vitamins. And we’ll just omit vitamin uh… vitamin B1 – thiamine chloride. Just overdose, overdose, overdose and this guy will all of a sudden be saying, „You know. There’s things crawling on the walls, there’s spiders, there’s…“ Oh, God! Has he got a wonderful case of DTs! You can fix him up quickly.

If you want to really knock somebody’s eyes out if you were a painter and you really wanted to ruin somebody’s… make them just so interested, you’d take a great big hall, and you take enormous curtains. And you take one picture that you painted, just that. And you put it down at one end of this hall – fix those curtains so they’re ready to drape across the thing. And then just a little brac-a-brac. Let’s put a little carpet on the floor and some curtains on the window. But by golly, let’s not have anything in there that even vaguely shows up, like the curtains around the picture.

Now… now cut him off all that other ration and right quick start shooting him full of B1. Well, he’ll snap back, but there are pyrotechnics to be observed there on a mental strata that you would be quite interested in. Because the way the pictures try to flash back into line – wonderful to behold. It tells you that B1 as a particle flow… as a particle is… somehow or other fits into the pictures of pictures, you understand? It says it has something to do with holding pictures in suspension. Or it ‘has something to do with goofballing up the thetan or the GE so that he thinks he has a big flow of something when he doesn’t have it. It’s upsetting. You could study it for a while, you’d probably understand what it was. The study has yet to be made. I just studied this other.

And then let people come in at the far end of the room and see this great space. And sitting at one end of it, this small picture. They can’t help it, they just sort of cave in. They say, „Look! My God, that thing must be valuable.“

All right, let’s take that full dosage again and let’s omit another vitamin and we’ll find out suddenly that the liver on this super overdosage with one thing missing, the liver just goes to pieces – ha-wham! Oh, does he get in terrible condition quick. Now take that one and overfeed him on it and the liver just goes into straight agony in reverse as it tries to right itself. And then of course, balance it out, and the guy gets all right again.

Value is in terms of space, you see.

It’s fascinating that the GE is so fixated on having to have certain kinds of MEST. He has… he’s agreed so thoroughly with the MEST universe that he couldn’t substitute B1 for C. Oh, no! No, he knows he’s got to have that crystal form B1 or he knows he’s got to have that C. And he does this purely by association: „What’s there? What’s been there? Well, we… then we’ve got to have that. We can’t have any substitute on the line.“ He’s still differentiating but how’s he differentiating? He’s differentiating along about this level. Is it a chair or is it a table? And he is able to tell which is the chair in terms of crystals and virus structure in general.

You know that a fellow who is big and expansive and can reach around a lot of things, and so forth, has, initially, space – he’s operating in lots of space. If he tries to operate in smaller space, why uh… he gets to snapping around it quite a bit. He operates in smaller space, he’s much worse off.

He’s… he’s smart, see. He’s utterly dependent upon this stuff, but he couldn’t turn B1 to C. He couldn’t do that. And if you as a thetan are unable to do that after you’ve been in process for four or five months, you ought to go out and shoot yourself.

Now let’s take… let’s take space, very little contact, big anchor points, so forth. Boy, ha… have you ever seen a… a… have you ever seen a waterfall, for instance, that fell a hundred and fifty feet? Anything like that. Just that big space. Now have you ever seen a waterfall that fell 150 feet and had just one plume fall all the way. There’s some such falls on the banks of the Columbia River – I don’t… And there’s some Yosemite that do this. They fall through all that space – just one plume of water comes all the way down.

As far as matter and its basic structure is concerned, it is terribly alterable. But the GE can’t alter it. He’s not a superior illusion at all.

Gee, people stand there and they wonder why they’re so enthralled. All of a sudden they’ve got anchor points and they’ve got bigness and they’ve got simplicity. And out of this they get harmony. You can practically feel their souls just sort of smooth down and go „Purrr.“

You can goofball up the GE and the body in the most fascinating ways. But it’s much easier just to convince him that he’s been goofballed. All you have to do is convince him he has been.

That’s one of the big traps of this universe, is it apparently has all this space, see. And having all this space why uh… anything like a sun, you know? Little suns, that’s all. Must have… you say, „It’s too tiny.“ No – you take a…

Uh… some time or other… some time or other get him into a very somnolent state and… and then drink some whitish powder and put some flour in it or something of the sort and don’t let him know anything about it… this, see – don’t let the preclear know. And he drinks this whitish powder, „Drink it down. That’s fine. You’ve just taken arsenic.“ If he’s in a very susceptible frame of mind he will lie down on the floor, writhe, and he will give you all the symptoms of dying by arsenic. It will be very puzzling to him why he doesn’t go all the way through with it, but by examining the structure of the thing at length, he will be able to take it and – „This is not arsenic.“

Let’s take a bucket full of 25 carat diamonds – the purest, most unflawed diamonds possible. Let’s take a bucket full of them – put them right there. No, no. Let’s take one – knock that away and take one great big velvet, black velvet cloth and set it on a table and put one light on it. And then take one one-carat diamond and put it on there. If Tiffany’s ever changed their policy they’d wreck their business. But they quite customarily put nothing in the window but one simple stone. And there it sits – one stone. People go by and they say, „Screeeee!“

Well, now that tells you then that your GE can be hit on two levels – we’re not too interested about the GE. But he can’t be hit on a structural level… he can’t be hit on a structural level if the functional level is shot. You can do anything you want to an alcoholic. You can take enzymes, benzenes, methylzenes, magazines, anything you want, and fool around with an alcoholic. You can feed him sugar uh… you can feed him spice uh… you can s… make him stand on his head, you can train him how to… how to… that he has to live for two seconds at a time and no longer – you can do all these wonderful things – and you’ll still have alcoholics.

And the boys who run these other… these… these uh… two-bits-for-a-collar-of-diamonds jewelry stores with those racks and racks and racks and racks and racks of things, have to actually, really to attract any real attention and get the passers-by to stop, they have to put in value, value, value, value, value in terms of lots of money so that people get to looking at a mass and it’s a curiosa. It’s not an appreciation at all. They get the appreciation, „Junk.“

The test of an alcoholic is can an alcoholic sit down and take a drink and just stop with that one drink and feel all right. Uh-uh. He can’t do it. The GE has a scarcity obsession on some type of crystalline structure. All you have to do is deny him this structure and deny him this structure and deny him this structure, and he’ll decide he can’t have it any more. And he will take a substitute for it. And then if you make THAT scarce, he will become psychotic on it. This is strictly your MEST universe at work.

And… and you get this – in the front of one of those windows you can have big diamonds rigged up, five-carats diamonds, ten-carat diamonds in rings and everything else like you see on New York, Broadway. You see those right straight up close to the window glass. And uh… there’ll be a rack of them sitting there and people’ll go along and say, „What do you know? Five thousand dollars! What do you know? Ten thousand dollars! What do you know? Twenty-five thousand dollars! Isn’t that interesting? You know, it’s funny how much that thing costs. I wish I had something like that. Well, let’s go over to the show.“ No interest level. No space, so of course it can’t be of any value.

You could take a little kid – now get this – you could take a little kid and deny the little kid candy. And deny the little kid candy and deny him candy and not let him have candy and tell him how bad candy is for him – until at last you have created an utter apathy on the subject of carbohydrates.

Now uh… you could get something very tiny and enclose it in a very tiny place of very exquisite workmanship. You get sort of the idea of a theft when you do that, when you… when you see this little, tiny ivory worked castle, you see. Little tiny castle, and it’s got a little, tiny thing in that offsets. You sorta get the idea that somebody stole something, when you look at this thing. It… it… it’s… it’s… it gives you kind of that feeling. You d… you don’t get really the feeling – you get the feeling of beauty and exquisiteness a little bit, but – somebody swiped it.

Having created this complete apathy upon this, you now make it possible for him to have the altered form of candy without digesting it – namely alcohol. And the second you do this, he of course knows that he cannot have, and therefore he can’t tolerate and therefore it is dangerous, candy. He KNOWS he can’t have candy – but he can have alcohol. And he’s so greedy for it that he’ll goofball. It starts in with a functional scarcity or a functional enforcement.

Why? It’s very simple. I mean, somebody has taken and out of a space that he shouldn’t have, he’s worked in some beauty into it. You see, that’s too small a space to have that much in.

Now let’s… let’s just go the other way around. Let’s take the little kid and force him to have candy and we force him to have candy, and we force him to have candy. We make it possible for him to get alcohol. He’ll… he’ll eventually go into apathy on the subject of candy and you get practically the same manifestation. That’s because your… your vectors go both ways. It really doesn’t matter much whether you inhibit or enforce something. The end result is the same. Blank, and uh… apathy. It’s just an upset of self-determinism.

Now uh… let’s go in some other fields: What… what’s your great singer? The first criticism of a singer: „Oh, he has a parlor voice.“ How much space can he fill with sound? That’s the first requisite.

All right? The guy has a good chance of becoming an alcoholic. Sure, it evidently is physiological. What do you have to do to… to fix that up? You just have to fix him up so that you… he doesn’t feel quite so degraded. Uh… you return his self-respect a little bit and tell him he can handle matter. If he can handle matter a little bit and so on, he’ll come up the line awfully fast. It’s a terribly artificial condition.

Caruso was the greatest singer of all time because he could knock out the back of any auditorium practically. Also he had force in his voice – he could crack wine glasses, hold a true note. And you say, „This is truth of note.“ No, that… the upset of that was there was – must have been enough force in that voice to crack wine glasses. He had perhaps great beauty of voice, perhaps not. But boy he was sure loud.

But in particular, let’s cover the subject of candy. You’d better not try to cover it by giving him a piece of candy, the first time you ever give him a piece, if you ever treat him… if you were to force him to have a piece of candy, you would just drive him nuts. You would make him quite ill. That’s right. You… he… he becomes sick. He doesn’t want anything to do with carbohydrate in that form.

Want to become a great singer? The hell with shifting notes. Don’t even bother to carry a tune. If you were just to go out and practice so that you could take the biggest auditorium in the United States or the Hollywood Bowl and get to a point where you could fill that Bowl with sound without any electronic equipment, boy, they’d elect you. You’d get elected right then.

All right, I’m not recommending that the cure of alcoholics be accomplished through the rehabilitation of the ability to eat candy, but that is a direction it can go.

Now, it’s a funny thing: What’s the difference then between the great singer and the hog caller? Both of ‘em can fill a lot of space with sound. Well, look… look them over – look them over. There’s a different intention behind the sound. The intention is to call a hog in one case, and to be loud; and the intention in the other place is to interest people and create a desire.

It doesn’t lie basically, as basic causation, enzymes or snenzymes or benzymes, in other words it has… it’s not basic causation. And you could stuff him full of all the enzymes and benzymes and magazines you wanted to stuff him full of, and he would not recover from his alcoholism. They go to the Keely Institute and then they come out, and then they go back to the Keely Institute, and then they come out and they go back, just for variety. There’s some crackpot out in… out in Kansas, I don’t know, he sells a patent medicine or something of the sort. Uh… I think it’s Menninger’s Cough Syrup or something like that – oh, Menninger’s Psycho Syrup, that’s right! And it’s made of some… some jerkwater. There’s…

Big difference. Where do you find your biggest difference then? Your biggest difference is up in the postulate intentional level. That’s… that’s the difference – up there. And then a little bit lower than that there’s an agreement that the singer is… is a singer, and an agreement that a hog caller is a hog caller. And we’ve agreed to laugh at hog collars and we’ve agreed to be very serious about singers – very simple.

Have you ever been across the continent? Well, there’s one… one place there… there’s – oh, you wouldn’t remember this, but there’s a place there where the train whistles twice, and – uh… yeah. And… that… that… that’s different from all the other places – it whistles five times at all the other watering stations. And as it goes past this place there, you might look around and there’s a little adobe shack or something over there. Anyway, they get… they get alcoholics there. And they… they take ‘em in and then they take their money and they let ‘em out after a while. And then they take them back in again, if they find out the family’s got some more money, and they let them out after a while. And then they take them in again, just for variety’s sake, and then they let them out after a while. And when they haven’t got any more money, this character Menninger then ships ‘em across the river where they go to the State Institution permanently.

That’s right. That’s about all there is to it. You go out to be a great singer, you make sure that everybody knows that you’re a great singer. You wear the trappings of a great singer, that’s all. I’ve seen some pianists sitting in dives that could tear the keys off the piano with any classical music – beautiful, just beautiful playing. But they didn’t have on a tail coat, they did not have an air, they didn’t have the style, they didn’t have all the symbols and trademarks of the great pianist.

You know, that’s not a libelous statement? You know that’s fact?

How do you act as a great pianist? Hah-hah! We know how you act as a great pianist – you’re very impressive in the first place. You come in, you ignore the whole audience. You sit down, you sweep your coat tails out of the way in order to sit down at the seat of just one piano sitting on this huge stage, see? And you sit down, and then you wait very patiently until everybody deigns to be damn quiet. And you start in. And make sure that you have the grandness of gesture. That’s all it is.

Student: Fact?

The poor guy sitting down in the jukebox playing with his derby hat over one eye, maybe can play rings around that guy on the concert stage, but he doesn’t know one fact – one fact he doesn’t know: that he has to act big and great in order to be big and great. And if he acts big and great and with the proper mannerisms to be big and great, he’ll be big and great. Because he’s what? He’s not putting on anything but the agreement.

That’s fact. Uh… they… uh… he used to be director of the state institution. He can put any of these patients that have run out of dough over there. He killed a fellow recently… he didn’t kill a fellow. A fellow by the name of Hacker. This guy Hacker used to jump around all over Los Angeles and say, „Dianetics – down with Dianetics! Down with Dianetics! We know all there is to know! And we’re sane. We’re sane! I’m sane! I’m sane!“ You know. Typical uh… quiet, calm, reserved, orderly fellow. And uh… and there was a motion picture actor by the name of Walker, you know? He played Private Hargroves and so forth?

If he refuses to act within the frame of agreement which is assigned to bigness and greatness, or if he has some purpose in not acting in that frame of reference, he won’t be.

Well, Menninger had him first. Menninger let him in and let him out and let him in and let him out, and let him in and let him out. And finally after about six months of this sort of thing, they sent him back to Hollywood and then Hacker, of course kept shootin’ him all the stuff and shootin’ him the stuff and shootin’ him the stuff – kept him under heavy drugs. Of course, a man kept under heavy sedation, everything that’s happened to him gets worse and worse and worse. And then one day he shoots him too full of drugs and kills him, murders him. And uh… and under any code of laws – if there was any law in California – it would be murder.

You can really pitch it any way you want to. You can just throw it in any direction. But if you’re going to throw it in any direction you want to, you’ll have to be able to initially feel that you can command space and energy. It’s all well and good to just fake in and know you’re faking in. It isn’t that people read your mind, it just shows up in the manner; the manner isn’t there.

And uh… everybody said, „Poor… poor Walker. Well, Hacker did the best for him. Hacker did the best he could.“ That’s right. Hacker did the best he could – kill people.

Calli-Curcy never came out and looked at the audience apologetically – never. Neither did Caruso. Caruso came out and he’d look them over. „All right, you people are privileged now to hear me sing.“ He’d say, „Now you’re going to hear me sing.“ There… it wouldn’t – nobody would have stood a chance if they had decided not to hear him sing. Nobody would’ve stood a chance.

Now they’re making a basic, horrible basic error. They keep trying to treat structure without remedying function. Yeah. You’ll run into the damnedest books on the subject of this – oh, just wonderful – about how… how… how this kind of drug and that kind of something or other all effect this wonderful digitalic uh… uh… acafluence uh… upon people and so on. But don’t put it to use, or don’t test it out. It’s been run just like any other squirrel investigation. It’s been tried on two cases, failed on both of them; the notes were written up favorably and it was released.

Now there’s… there’s you… there’s your difference. What is greatness? It’s simply that: What a beautiful language – „Great-ness.“ Big-space.

Now that’s… that’s historical fact.

If a fellow fills up all the space he has, he’d better find bigger space.

Now what do… what do you do then on this? What do you have to do to clear it up? You have to clear up agreement with the MEST universe in terms of scarities and enforcements which comes down at last to a craving, a shortage, terrible shortage. And it solves on this. You have to have it, you can’t have it. If you just ran that on any injury or obsession or compulsion: „Now you have to have it. You have to avoid having it. All right, you have to have it. You have to avoid having it. You have to have it. You have to avoid having it.“ And you just go on like that – it’s a process all by itself.

Now there’s the quality of action, and that mostly has to do with consistent quality of action. He has a consistency and a control – increase and decrease – at will. It isn’t enough to sing loud. One must sing loud and fall off to a softness, and sing loud again at will. He must also be able to stop and start singing at will. He follows this… this whole cycle of action.

Just sits there. If that’s all we knew, we could probably stand around and talk and have our… have our post in glory for a long time. If we just knew that one… one dichotomy. And an awful lot of this stuff like that. If you just had that one, you could work. If you just had… if you knew about what responsibility was and you just work responsibility and no responsibility as a dichotomy, why you could get to solve cases.

And at that level of big space, there is desire, and people see that as the space and they also will see it instantly as desire. There we have desire at work: Big space, certainty and if any force is there at all, the force is subordinate to the agreement that there should be force there.

If you get terribly desperate with a preclear some time or another, and they’ve got some kind of a chronic somatic, just sit down and grind the damn thing out. If you can’t do anything else, just say, „Have to have it. Have to avoid having it. Have to have it. Have to avoid having it.“

You get the complete feeling at that level that a person would not need any force in order to carry out his mission.

Somebody was asking me the other day, „How do you solve being degraded?“ Well, you have lots of ways to solve being degraded. Mainly force – rehabilitation of force.

Now what do you know? Do you know you could walk down here and take the star of a cup you could just walk down and take his badge away from him… and have him agree perfectly to do it, that you should do it. You just assume that you have the right to, not the right you have to defend. This is sort of a God-given right. You walk down and talk to him about his badge, and you’ll have it in your hand in a couple of seconds. You don’t have to use subterfuge to get it. That’s the way not to get it.

So, how… how… how… how could you solve it? If we didn’t have any other process. Well look: If you ever get down a blind alley and you say, „Now let’s see. Now we’ve got a terrible case of ruddy-rodism. And no research has ever been done in Scientology on ruddy-rodism. And it’s a horrible, malignant phobia which causes traffic cops to arrest speeders“ or something of the sort. „It’s terrible, and I have this preclear and God knows, nobody knows anything about this. And I’m sure Hubbard never… never processed anything like this. And this is worse than anything I ever saw. The time the guy comes into the office, why he… he just sits there and I just mention ruddy-rodism and so forth, and he just sits there and he vomits and he vomits and he vomits. Now what am I supposed to do?

Now there are much easier ones. Do you know that… how they tell a shoplifter in a store? How they tell a criminal on the street? They don’t have his description. He looks suspicious. You know that people… people… cops arrest a criminal on… away from the scene of the crime a few minutes afterwards ordinarily because they look so suspicious. They just weren’t big enough to do what they did, because they knew they didn’t have the right to do it and that was the first requisite of criminality, is knowing one doesn’t have the right to do it. The second one knows one has the right to do it, it ceases to be a criminality and becomes a right.

And I say, „Mock up something,“ and he vomits. And I tell him to mock up vomiting and he vomits.“

And the difference between a right and the difference between a criminal act, is simply knowing one has a right to and knowing one doesn’t have a right to. In other words, knowing one has a right to, one would have to command enormous space and enormous power to know so completely that he would have the right to any item or object in an entire city.

Well, if you ever get in that kind of a pinch, or if your wits just congeal on you when confronted with some horrendous problem, there is a common denominator of all these things, since time is the single arbitrary of aberration. This was discovered empirically, this datum. And then it was found out how it fitted. And now, boy does it fit. And that is Having to have it, and Avoiding having it. Trying to escape from having it – anyway you want to phrase this. The… the point is, it’s having… trying to escape from having it; now trying to force yourself to have it; now trying to keep yourself from having it. Just go up and down the line of Desire, Enforce and Inhibit.

Boy, would he have to be big. He’d have to be a hell of a lot bigger than that city – big. To the petty thief who knows he doesn’t have the right to pay a nickel to ride on the subway, and the second after he’s paid his nickel he still looks like he doesn’t have a right to ride on the subway. And, what do you know? He paid his nickel! Now that’s an interesting point, isn’t it. Fascinating.

All right, wanting to have it, trying not to want to have it; wanting to have it, somebody else wanting you to have it. Any time you want to run brackets, you could get fancy on this, you see. You could run a complete bracket, that is, to… the preclear needing it, somebody else wanting the preclear to need it, the preclear wanting somebody else to need it, other people needing it, and other people wanting other people to need it, and everybody restraining everybody from doing all those things, and then everybody re… forcing everybody from doing… to do all those things.

He knows he doesn’t have the right to. He knows he doesn’t have the right to do anything. He has no space and no time, no havingness. And as such, he comes right on down scale.

You could just play this organ in any one of those stops. That’s a bracket: to the preclear, to another, to others. Preclear doing it to somebody else, somebody else doing it to the preclear, others doing it to others. Another way of running a bracket: Overt act, Motivators, DEDEX – you get ‘em all. They’ll all come out in that fashion.

Now there are some people who have the right natively to have a… a space bigger than a galaxy, easily. And who have come down in their own eyes to a point where they know they can’t have a space bigger than a planet, and they don’t have a right to any space bigger than a planet. And they go on acting apologetic about the whole deal. And you’d… you’d swear – they aren’t on… out like a petty thief, but they’re down in their own estimation to that degree. The very great on earth have had that feeling.

But if… if that all deserted you and… and you found yourself creative processing, postulate processing uh… I… I don’t know where I’m going next. I… I seem to be in the Texas of a pilot house, and so on. And that’s all very well, but I thought we were on the Mississippi, and here we are in the North Arctic Ocean. And it turns out not to be the Texas uh… on a steamer at all but uh… hy golly! The thing looks like an electronics lab or… or something. And I’m getting awfully squirrelly too.“

They’re scaled way down and they still have enough of this to spare. Well, there’s a… what’s the difference then between a petty thief and a person the size of the MEST universe? Well, your petty thief possibly could be, some day, the size of the MEST universe. But it would mainly depend upon his knowing he had the right to be.

Just look at the preclear desperately and you say, „Now you notice the obsession you’ve got there, you know. Now you got that now? Now get having to have it. Now, not having to have it. Now, having to have it. Now, trying to avoid having it. Now having to have it.“

And when you get a postulate-changing session going on with some preclear, you will be astonished. They’ll realize they don’t have the right to do this, or to do that or to do something else – because they agreed not to have the right.

If you… that… that’s the only thing you could think of, it’d work. It’ll work. You can grind it right straight on out, because you’re working with time and you’re knocking the thing back down the time track, that’s all.

And one could call the whole dwindling scale of stuff, „Agreeing not to be able to.“ That’s the saddest story ever sung: „I agree that I do not have the right to…“ And there are a lot of understoods back of that, a lot of postulates that have gone before. „I agree that I do not have the right to…“

Now if you get… if your… if you… your wits are just a little more fluid, why having to have it, having to avoid having it, or avoiding having it. Now trying to make somebody else have it, now trying to keep somebody else from having it, now others trying to keep others from having it. Okay, and back we come again to uh… trying to keep from having it, trying to have it.

The first day you ever said, „Well, all right. I see that other people are using these things and so forth.“ Just nonsensically you said one day, „Well, I agree. I uh… well, I agree that other people have the right to…“ Oh-oh! That’s the same thing, isn’t it? „I agree other people have the right to…“ is the „I agree I don’t have the right to have a right more than other people have a right.“ Oh boy!

It’s just a positive-negative, see. Any way you want to phrase it, as long as you run the positive and negative on the thing.

„I agree that other people have a right to manage this or do that or square around something or other, and that I have no business monkeying with it.“ Oh-oh!

So this… this kid’s got a club foot, terrible shape club foot. Okay. „Get having to have the club foot… trying to avoid having the club foot… having to have it…“ I don’t care how many hours you run it. He’ll start to develop pain very shortly in his foot.

Everywhere you look in this confounded, upset, cock-eyed society everybody is saying, „I don’t take any responsibility for this. And that’s not my fault. And that’s not my responsibility, and I’m not responsible for that, and I’m responsible for something or other“ and they get down to a level, they don’t even vote. That he don’t… he can’t even take that responsibility for having elected the government of the United States because they recognize it’s kind of specious. They realize they have the perfect innate ability to own an area the size of the United States and to be an area the size of the Unites States, and yet here they are, they won’t even participate and vote one vote. They couldn’t take the responsibility to that degree.

If you want to get real fancy, turn it white and then run this. Or turn it white and black and run this. Or any w… thing… th… anything you want to do to it, as long as you’ve got that basic fundamental – having to have it, not having it. And you could run that on a stomach ache. Oh, some preclear, you’ve done mock-ups and you know there’s everything this preclear can create and destroy and this preclear is terribly competent – well, of course preclear probably isn’t mocking up anything. Preclear probably sitting there, being very obliging, saying, „Yes, yes.“ All right.

Now there are two ways that they do that. The fellow who was as big as the size of the United States would never go near a polling vault or a box – never. He wouldn’t vote, he… because he’d be into an agreement with all these other people who were voting and he wouldn’t see that. But on a lower level a person won’t vote simply because they won’t take the responsibility for who is president. And that’s way down.

And you run him on the E-Meter and you say, „Well, all right. Could you create a cat?“ E-Meter doesn’t register. „Could you destroy a cat?“ E-Meter doesn’t register. You say, „Well, he’s all right on the Fifth Dynamic, evidently.“

And everywhere you look, „I don’t have the right to do this, I don’t have the right to do that.“ There’s a screwball attorney uh… who is uh… fouling up like a fire drill – some little hick town someplace. Uh… and… and he’s busy trying to figure every way he can figure to lose some little two-bit court case – in Scientology. He’s doing this. Why, it’s the most fascinating thing you ever saw. These… these guys… these guys are so low they haven’t… they haven’t got any responsibility for any fellow human being, and they have no responsibility for themselves at all. Why? Because such a person has had it demonstrated to him very adequately by having his wife who was a cripple for many, many years made again to walk and play the piano.

And, „Destroy your parents?“ – E-Meter doesn’t register. You say, „Yes. Create your parents?“ – E-Meter doesn’t register.

Hah! He didn’t have any responsibility for her, did he? Didn’t have any responsibility for himself – couldn’t possible have done so. Why? Because it isn’t any responsibility of his that everything’s going wrong, and so forth. And this trial – he’s the only one that’s there. It’s up to him to say anything at all.

It’s stuck. I mean, they’re stuck in something. They’re… they’re so monomanic, in one direction and one compartment and one department, they aren’t even in communication. And yet they’re apparently sitting there saying „Yes“ and „No“ – all sorts of thing. Boy, are they really out.

It’s very interesting, isn’t it? The guy could actually fail to recognize his beingness to the extent where he can’t even be the size of his own family on responsibility.

You’ll run into this case every once in a while. If a case is in terrible shape and looks awfully perplexing to you, you just haven’t… and you can’t find out what’s wrong with the case, just put it down to this: The case just isn’t registering. The case may look like a Three, or may look like a Two. They’re not. They’re a Seven. They’re just not registering. You can’t get them to do… you… they… they say, „Yes – they’re doing these various things,“ and they’re not doing them. And here they go, and they’re being very obedient. You’re working a Seven. Have him locate the room.

In other words, he couldn’t continue his support of something which has relieved him of the terrible burden of having a cripple in his family for the rest of her life. You understand, that would cost him just days and months and so on of misery on his own part.

It’s liable to be with a great shock that the fellow will look at you and say, „I… God… gee I… but the iron bars do look kind of unfamiliar.“ They’ve never looked at this room. They’re trying to avoid having it. They’re trying to avoid having a body. They’re having to have a body, having not to have… not have a body and all sorts of this.

And yet – yet that’s happened for him. And yet his level of responsibility is so low that he’s just figuring out any way he could possibly figure where Scientology could possibly go by the boards right in his own home town. Isn’t that fascinating?

So, if you ever get down… now every once in a while one of you come up and ask me, you say, „Well uh… how do you solve this?“ or, „How do you solve that?“ or, „What’s the specific solution?“ Now, if you couldn’t think of just running mock-ups, if you couldn’t think of what mock-up would fit into this thing, if… if… if that was too much of a strain on it, or appears too terrible to handle or something of the sort, remember that this other one always will handle it. Having to have it… hav… you don’t have to worry about flows. Just having to have it, not having to have it. maybe it’ll take you 24 hours or 60 hours to grind the thing out finally on brackets and various things on havingness, but it’ll grind out. It will grind out eventually.

His level of responsibility can’t be any size at all, then. ‘Cause he knows it works, it works for him, it works in his hands, he’s fully trained and yet he’s got to lose. Never had enough processing to put in your eye. But there… there’s… there’s a level of responsibility.

And somebody is asking me up here, „How do you solve degradation?“ Well, if you can’t solve degradation any other way – degradation is being big and getting small – uh… if uh… you’re uh… and that is by big… getting big and being small, and not at your own uh… request.

What is the essential difference between what I’m doing in res… in Scientology and other people? Is it because I’m brighter? No, no. Uh-uh. Is it because I… I… I know more? Naw. No there’s really only one thing, is I recognize that it’s… that it’s my job, I recognize anybody has this job. You see, anybody has this job. And there was this great big pair of boots and they were sitting right in the middle of this universe, and they were awfully big boots, and you could get down amongst them with… with telescopes. You could look the length and breadth of them and find absolutely nothing inhabiting ‘em.

Another way, people get degraded on the subject of sex because it’s – like the alcoholics – there’s suddenly a great scarcity of sex – terrific scarcity. So sex gets more and more precious and more more precious and they feel more and more degraded by having to have it. And at last they’re practically out through the bottom – crash! Scarcity. It’s scarce and they can’t have it, but they have to have it. And if they have to have something, they can’t have, it demonstrates to them that their ability to create is terrible and this demonstrates to them that they must agree with the MEST universe if they have to have it.

And it says in these boots, it just simply said, „These are the boots which go down a road which leads out of this joint.“ And other people had been diving spaceships through them and playing hopscotch in them and… and so on, when they ever did see them, and so on. They were sitting right there.

That’s why some guys spin in. You de… you just show them… show them a ring or a marriage licence, some guy or some girl or something like that and they just go, „Bzzzzzzzzrrrllmmmm!“

They sat on the doorstep of every door that has ever been covered with crepe. They sat on the doorstep of every bank that ever reneged on a pledged agreement or refused a loan to somebody who was desperate. They sat on the doorstep of every church which itself was pretending to take vast responsibility. They fell across every single boulevard and progress that Man ever thought he could make. He could go ahead and take responsibility for destroying culture, but not for helping a single individual in it. Ho!

Did you see WINGS – uh… back… the old… the old production, World War 1 planes and everything else? They had some of the beautiful shot-downs there. I mean, the… the Fokker or the Spad or something or other would be shot down and they’d go down in beautiful falling leaves and trailing smoke and terrific sound effects and so forth. And finally, way below on the… on the grass, crash.

Fascinating! Why, those boots – well, you look at these boots, and they… they weren’t even big boots. They were little boots – little kids’ boots. Wasn’t anything to them. And what’d you do? You just threw some space out that big, that’s all. I mean, you narrowed the space down to the universe of one man and you found out he was a highly representative man, and then you took a look. The boots were very wearable.

Well, there are various buttons in people’s lives that are like a… a whole hatful of machine-gun bullets into the gas tank of a Spad, which wouldn’t fly anyway. The only reason they flew – nobody ev… really knew this – but you know that World War I’s planes didn’t fly. They just found fellows who were strong enough to lift ‘em up into the air and carry them.

And they’re very, very simply boots. But what do you know? These boots have a catch to them. They aren’t just one man’s boots. They were every man’s boots. And because I assayed to take a few steps in them and square them around and find out where the road was and what leather they were made out of, didn’t absolve a single individual who cared to benefit from those boots from wearing them. And that is the grimmest joke of all.

Ever since… ever since… since that race sort of died out, why ever since they’ve been… they’ve been trying to get an airplane to fly.

A person has to come up the scale so that he can take responsibility for himself and all of his fellows and the whole cock-eyed condemned universe before he can walk down that road out. Isn’t that fascinating?

Well, when you ask about degradation or when you ask about, „What is this thing about money? Yeah, money, let’s see. Money-money.“ Well, of course, there’s a lot to know about money.

He can’t even run his engram bank unless he says, „It’s my business and I mean to make it so.“ Isn’t that interesting? Because he’s down tone scale on inhibited, he knows all knowledge is inhibited, he knows all things are inhibited, he knows every thing he is scare, he knows death is inevitable, he knows all these things. He knows he has no space. He knows that life is an object, not an animate, glorious thing. And as long as he knows that, then he will know no more. And at that level one knows practically nothing.

Money… Howard Scott… there’ve been some guys beating their brain cells together in this cen… century. Howard Scott uh… had some very interesting theories on the subject of money. It’s the circulatory system of this society.

The bank will sit there and some of the little incidents in it might be quite bright and it might be interesting. But boy! is it of narrow scope! It’ll be a little tiny bank.

Let’s uh… put it into our frame here and call it, „Money is the attention units of a society“. And they circulate one to another, and back and forth again. And that’s proven out by the fact they operate like attention units. Let’s say a dollar’s an attention unit. And actually where you find the greatest interest centered, you’ll find the greatest number of attention units.

Those great big ridges standing out there have to be handled by a big guy, if you’re going to handle them all the way. Now we have the modus operandi of how you get to be a big guy. There isn’t any gimmick factor whereby you all of a sudden discover you have to make up your mind to be self-determined.

Now that person who can force the greatest interest, gets even more attention units because attention units are force units – dollars are force units. They’re enforced by bayonets, and they’re enforced by scarcity and they’re enforced by what they laughingly call the law of… of „Demand the supply“.

You could take a preclear by the nape of his neck and hold him up there and bang his head against the wall with these techniques until he is cleared – if you start him on the line, you never have to explain a thing to him. He’ll finally wind up, but he’ll never walk out of this universe with your help. He never will.

Uh… and uh… so you want to… you want to have a lot of dollars coming your way? Be interesting. That… that’s if you want to be… just be interesting. They’ll flow your way. Wear a… wear an eight-foot hat down the street. One way or another, dollars will come your way if you do that.

He’ll only walk out of this universe if you permit him to recover enough force so that he can have responsibility for what’s going on.

Of course, there is interest with repugnance, and then that means attention, although it flicks in your direction, flick off. Dollars won’t flow in on that one. They just flick in, flick off.

There isn’t any hidden gimmick; there isn’t anything else he has to think; there isn’t anything he has to believe in, really, to amount to anything to go this way. And you can boot him up this line quite artificially, but what you’re really doing is taking him and putting these boots on him. He has to be fitted with these boots and these boots are called Responsibility.

Well, you can’t figure out how to solve money? Having to have money, not having to have money. Just run it.

The ability to handle force and take the responsibility for the use of it, the ability to create and handle space of any dimension and take the responsibility for handling it.

Now this fellow keeps telling you… keeps telling you, „But how do I solve this body? I haven’t got a body – I mean, I’ve got a body and I… I’m uh… not in it, but I am in it. And I… I know this and I… I’d like to be free and I don’t feel free and so on.“ And you’ve just tried everything. You’ve burned up his body, and you’ve thrown it out the window, you’ve made it appear and disappear and he still can’t get out of his body. And mock-ups don’t seem to work too well and they’re upsetting to him that… there could be a bug there, you see. There’s the way he’s handling them. And he isn’t handling them the way he says he is. And uh… you’re not feeding ‘em to him very fast the way it is. And there’s an upset there some place – bad upset.

He’ll find himself going up the line automatically. There isn’t any funny little gimmick on the thing. It’s just a grim joke you’re playing on him. He thinks he’s been diving and ducking and jumping into the weeds and hiding under the house and so on. And he says, „Well, this is just another way to hide under the house“ – you’ve got him by one ankle; you start pulling him out.

It would be an application upset – a technique? No. You just have failed to sight whether or not he was really doing what he was doing. Or failed to start in simply enough so that he’s just kind of swamped and he’s going along and not telling you what he really is doing. You’ll find those preclears, by the way, in abundance.

And what do you know? He has to stand eventually. Not by any determinism of his own, really, if you really wanna make it that way. He’ll be standing out in the bright sunlight fully visible before he goes anyplace. He’s gotta be able to take responsibility for all enforcement, and all desire way up the line, and all space before he’ll walk any place.

Well, all right. If you’ve got a problem of that nature, it will always solve on this one – Having to have a body, needing to have a body, having to be able to control a body, having to be able to own a body, having to be able to protect a body, having to protect people. And NOT doing so, all the way down the line.

So we’ve got that scale going back and forth, and up and down and we find out that there is a bigness which has to grow in the person. And if you don’t see that bigness growing, he’s not on his way out.

Just the sub-zero tone scale, positive-negative. Dichotomies will cover that more thoroughly. So you could run these dichotomies back and forth. But what’s it boil down to? Having to have a body, and trying to avoid having a body.

And the difference between the preclear that has to be chained down to have the boots put on him and me is, is I never wanted to be a slave and I never had to be. That’s all. I never agreed.

And the guy running this dichotomy, having to have a body and trying to avoid having a body and so on – he’ll get unsquirrelled eventually on the subject of bodies. It’s a funny thing that that technique sits there kind of isolated. You won’t appreciate this unless you’ve really, really taken a look at it. But having this technique sitting there uh… isolated – having to have it, possession, or control.

It was very interesting – somebody was talking about science fiction the other day, I wondered how much of all this was science fiction.

Control is slightly different as a technique. Being able to control a body, not being able to control a body. Wanting to control a body, not wanting to control a body, brings in Have and Control at the same time. To own is to operate. You’re going up scale a bit, you see, when you talk about control.

Well, there’s science fiction and science fiction. Some science fiction’s bad, some science fiction’s good. Unfortunately, for your sakes, this isn’t fiction. I wish it were. If it were just a pleasant afternoon, we could all go on being slaves.

But it’s a very funny thing, that Control is better than Have, really. But uh… you’ll find Have is so intimately Time, that here… here are just thousands of things that you could apparently run quite logically – being guilty and not being guilty, being guilty and not being guilty. You’d think that would produce a result. Obviously, it should produce a result of some sort. Uh… being worried – you being worried, you worrying others, others worrying you. Let’s run that back and forth a bit.

But unfortunately – unfortunately it doesn’t happen to be fiction. Like the professor – I mean, the chair of physics up there said, „The diabolical accuracy of these predictions will be borne out by the most exacting research and investigation.“ Well, they’re diabolical because they take slaves away from those who would have slaves. And they set man free. And they’ll even set men free who don’t want to be free at all. And I think that is the most… grimmest jest.

You think that produce terrific results? No, that won’t. It just won’t do it. It will produce some results, yes. More spectacular than a lot of other results. But having to have and not having to have hits it right on the button. And trying to control and not trying to control hits it on a little higher button.

And when it comes to… when it comes to any of these techniques, any of these techniques, they… they add up all the way up – something I talked to you about before, time and time again – uh… freedom. Freedom.

Those are two buttons. They’re standing out there very isolated and no other flows work like those.

And that freedom is lots of space and ability to use it. That’s freedom – that’s all. That’s all freedom is. It’s… it’s exactly what it says it is. It is the most idiotically literal thing imaginable – freedom. Lots of space and the ability to use it.

So, when you get all these techniques all boiled down there, there’s anything that’s worrying the guy and you have to run actual facsimiles – having to have, not having to have, if you’re so rattled you can’t think of anything else, well, go right across the boards on it.

And then complete freedom is above the level of not needing space. And not even having to agree. That’s… that is above the level of freedom. That is cause itself. And you never saw cause itself ever being worried.

And having to control, or trying to control and not being able to control is a little higher echelon than that. Okay? Let’s take a break.

It… Prime Cause has nothing which could enslave it, except itself. Just like there’s really nobody ever going to really pick up this preclear and carry him out of this universe. Nobody’s ever going to do that. He can put boots on; he’ll still have that last mile he has to walk himself.

And that means that he’ll have to take responsibility for what he does and his force. And not only that, for everything that goes on around him.

And we look at the thing that does happen, we look at these people, we look at somebody – gee. He… all he’s got to do is walk into a court and put on the proper defense which has been outlined for him. But he says, „No“ – he can’t do that. He can’t do that. „That’s not possible because all is lost. We all know all is lost.“ He hasn’t taken responsibility for his own profession or his own pride in himself or anything.

What are we looking at? Carrion? That’s how low one can get and that is actually a degradation of sorts which goes below the level of being degraded; because a person who knows he is degraded isn’t very badly. It’s a person who’s terribly degraded and isn’t even vaguely aware of it that’s dead. And you can look around and see these people on every side. And they’re going through and they say, „Nobody has any right to give me any responsibility. I have no responsibility for anything. I… I take responsibility – I’m to blame.“ – something like that. „I’m responsible. This isn’t any job of mine.“

They’re going around like that. If you said to him, „Do you feel degraded?“ They’d say, „No no-no. Just now married to Marxism.“ The hell they are. They’re lower than the dogs, because they’re gone and they don’t even know they’re gone. And that’s the horrible part of being gone.

When one is all the way gone, he ceases to know anything at all. And he doesn’t even know he’s dead.

Now on this level, there you see that dwindling spiral adding up, adding up. And it’s the track of agreement all the way down the line. And the agreement leads from Desire to Enforcement to Inhibition in each case. And that requires force and space and as you go down that spiral, you’ll find out there’s less and less space, and less and less space and finally a solid object.

Let’s not have that solid object you.

Let’s take a break.