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DEMONSTRATION OF SCS

GROUP PROCESSING: HOLD IT STILL, MAMA AND PAPA

An auditing demonstration given on 2 September 1956A lecture and Group Processing demonstration given on 2 September 1956

Thank you very much.

We put this lady and this gentleman up here *[Editor's Note: A large, lifelike dummy of a man and a woman were each placed on a table at the front of the room for the Group Processing.] because we didn't have enough pillars.

You've had some announcements and the third day of the congress draws to a close. I've been practicing that way of speaking. The third day of the congress draws to a close. The Committee on Future Programs, Scientology material will be made known to you tomorrow. They have been, I hope, very productive, and I hope they'll be more productive this evening.

Now, I'd like to introduce to you on my right, at probably 50 — 75 pounds, Mama.

But one of the things about Scientology is that its future programs are being lived through right now. One of the very interesting points is the amount of future that was mocked up in 1950 that actually materialized.

Female voice: Okay, Mama.

Well, I haven't anything to talk to you about. As a matter of fact, that's why I'm filling in with platitudes. And you just think it's a gag right now that I don't have anything to talk to you about but it's an absolute fact. I haven't got a thing. Told you all there is to know about havingness. Told you all there is to know about games. You're getting all there is to know about indoctrination — ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

And over here, on my left, the contender — Papa.

You know, when the — when the people take this ACC that's starting on October the 15th, they will have had to have been through HCA indoctrination. I hope that they will have made that a fact by that time, because in the ACC we run an Indoctrination Course right along with the course.

Now, if any of you good people are unable to see both Mama and Papa, there's lots of chairs at the back; let's start pulling them forward and squaring yourselves around so that you can see both these notable people.

We have what's known as High School Indoctrination. First thing you do in High School Indoctrination is you take the auditor all apart and throw the parts around. Leave him nothing to think with and make him reassemble them. First thing we do is ruin all of his early auditing ability. We ruin him — finish him. Done. Isn't that a terrible thing? It's a terrible thing.

These two good people by the way, were mocked up whole cloth by the HCA students. I want to thank them right now for this good job done.

The only reason we do a thing like that actually is because in the old days a fellow used to learn how to fly and he'd fly with one wing just a little bit low. He learned how to fly that way. Felt natural on the seat of his pants! And he'd eventually get an airline job and ... No, we want nothing but good auditors in that unit, but it's a fact that there is such a thing as High School Indoctrination.

This just shows you that after somebody gets through a modern HCA Course, he can really mock up.

There is also some other material that we might by that time have sufficiently well organized to part with. But I've actually given you right now all there is to know. There's hardly anything else I have to cover now. Actually, it's the truth. I mean, I haven't another thing to tell you. Let's see, who looks restimulated here? Who looks restimulated? I'm going to show you how to audit. Okay?

You realize — you realize now, some intuition must have told you that we were going to have some Group Processing.

Audience: Yes!

Audience: Really?

This is rough. I want a volunteer.

Now, is there anybody — is there anybody doesn't want any Group Processing? There's somebody at the back doesn't want any Group Processing — that's real good. There's an empty chair up here.

Audience: Oh! Oh!

Now, Group Processing is an activity participated in by the group and directed by the Group Auditor.

Male voice: Looks like you got one.

Group Processing came in several years ago and was very, very successful at the time it did. It's been very successful since. It's an oddity that group instruction — in the same way that you receive group instruction on the first night PE Course — which by the way was all I guess there was to the PE Course there, unless of course — oh, it's on again tonight. I don't lecture tonight, do I?

You're not going to volunteer?

Audience: Yes!

Good boy. Thank you Carl, I thought you would. That would be terrific. Carl, one of the reasons why I was going to give you a little session here, was because I knew it wouldn't be restimulative to you.

Well, it's a democratic world. I actually do have to give some of those lectures that are on the program. We have covered one to date.

Male voice: Thank you.

Anyway, Group Processing was very successful and it's a strange thing, however, that with the processes we were using a year ago, that group instruction actually did more for IQ and for the general state of case than processing. But that was a year ago.

Actually, only a military man can appreciate this particular process that I'm going to show you this evening. You want to really see a process, now, huh?

Now, if we can do as much for a case as we can do under group instruction today using the type of instruction more or less that you saw the first night here, what would happen if we really developed some group processes and a Group Auditor procedure? Hm? What would happen?

Audience: Yeah, sure.

Well, there actually exists today a Group Auditor procedure. There exists a sort of a regimen of what you do and what you don't do and one of the things you don't do is to keep changing commands on the preclears. You attempt to run things somewhat flat. At least take the kick off of them for the group.

You want to see a process that is as modern as 1958, huh?

Now, Group Auditing with our modern processes can be terrifically successful. Can also be terribly disastrous. I hate to have to say that but there have been a very, very great many people entirely changed by Group Processing.

Audience: Yes.

Now Group Processing, of course, cannot and never will supplant individual processing. But as individual processing moves forward in its results, Group Processing moves up — lagging a bit, of course — considerably — but Group Processing is still quite effective.

All right. This is a mild version of rougher processes, but I'm going to show you a process known as SCS — Start, Change and Stop. Okay?

Now, what process do you suppose you could possibly run with these two nice dummies in the front of the room? Hm?

Audience: Okay. Good.

Well, you could run that but you notice here you have some mass. Is that some mass? Let's look at Mama. Now, you realize anybody such as yourself that's had several hundred Mamas up and down the track one way or the other, actually — you don't need to get too specific about mothers. Mothers are simply a subject. They're very, very nice things to have around sometimes. Sometimes mothers aren't very nice to have around. I mean it's just one of those things. Sometimes a matter of an opinion.

Now, what I'm going to do — what I'm going to do here is from — in about two seconds, just ignore the audience entirely. And I'm simply going to give him a very serious little session on SCS. Okay?

However, I have had a preclear who had told me what an awful mother he had, suddenly discover that she wasn't such a bad old girl after all. And I have had a preclear that was saying, "Oh, I had the dearest mother in the world," suddenly find out that she had been made, to say the least, in a careless moment.

Audience: Okay.

Boy, you're slow!

I'm not going to audit him very long on it since it would start to be restimulative after a little while. But we will just show you how this is done. Okay?

Yeah, that's the way it is.

Audience: Okay.

Well anyhow, fathers of course — fathers of course are another subject — another subject entirely. In fact they're another object. And fathers are of course — well, fathers. And it's very, very hard to generalize on fathers because they all act so much like fathers most of the time. Except those that refuse to be fathers.

LRH: All right. How are you, Carl?

There's many a little baby has spent most of his time trying to convince Papa that Papa was a Papa. You'd be surprised how much concentration some children have put into that. But both of them, of course, have had some role in the formation of the person.

PC: Fine.

It's an odd thing, isn't it, that a broken home where father or mother is amiss or gone produces in the main the bulk of unsettled people.

LRH: Good. Carl, there's a little process hero that is a drill.

In other words, you take somebody down here in the juvenile delinquency ward, something like that; you find out normally he comes from a broken home. That's quite peculiar. Well, you go up in the sacristy and you'll find out that the priests up there, many of them, have come from a broken home. And you go and look over famous authors and so on and you'll find out a lot of those came from a broken home.

PC:Yes, Sir.

You look over judges, magistrates and police officers and you'll find out many of them came from a broken home. In other words we see that a broken home plays a very significant role and being well aware of this, why don't we just group audit a little bit here on broken homes, huh?

LRH: It's a drill. All right. Okay. And you don't mind us doing a little bit of auditing here, huh?

Not that you have one — not that you have one, but I am sure unless you sprang full armed from the brain of your auditor, you had a mother. Right?

PC: Not a bit, no. Not at all.

Audience: Right.

LRH: Good. Good. Well, I hate to ask you if you've got an auditing room.

You have some recollection of this. And some of you have had a father. Is that right? That's correct, isn't it?

PC: Boy, I've got a big one. Lots of space.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. And you've got an auditor?

All right. In view of that fact, do you suppose that you could see in this charming lady here some vestige of some mother you may or may not have had at some time or other?

PC: I do.

Audience: Yes. No.

LRH: Have I got a preclear?

You might also see in her somebody else's mother such as the preclear's. Got that?

PC: You do.

In other words this symbol we have — although it doesn't have mobility at the moment — is nevertheless a symbol. You see that the symbol must have had mobility, however, because it appeared there. I don't think it was there during the lecture.

LRH: Well, very, very good. This little practice here is supposed to work over body control. That is, to put the preclear into better control of his body. And it consists of a little drill, actually three little drills, that are very simple. But all it consists of is I am going to ask you to start the body, you see?

And over here — over here we have Papa and I think we can see in Papa some of the Papas that you might have been associated with, right? Hm? How about that?

PC: Right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: I'm going to ask you to start the body and you just start it. When I ask you to start the body, why you start it, okay?

You can do that?

PC:Got it.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: And then there we are.

Well, now let's look at Mama again. Let's look at Mama again and see in her the symbol of womanhood.

PC: Okay.

And then let's look at Papa again and see in him the symbol of man-hood.

LRH: But I'm not going to ask you, by the way, to stop it, slow it down or anything. After you've started the body, why, I will tell you, "Very well."

Now, these are very charming people. I know, I talked to them for hours and they were very obedient. They don't originate well but do you suppose Mama over here could receive a communication in any way?

PC: Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: And then we'll practice that again. All right. Is that a session?

Oh, you do think so. All right. That's good.

PC:Yes, it is.

Now, do you suppose Papa could receive a communication?

LRH: All right. Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Sounds fine.

Well now, can you get the idea more or less that that figure of Mama is there?

LRH: Fine. How about you standing right there now.

Audience: Yes.

Okay. Start the body.

All right.

Good. Good. That's fine. That's fine.

Can you get the idea that the figure of Papa is there?

PC: Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Did you start the body?

All right. That's fine.

PC: I did.

Now, we're going to run a process which is a very, very simple process and is run in exactly the same way that we ran our process yesterday on the posts. Okay?

LRH: You did?

Audience: Yes.

PC: Yes.

You don't have to acknowledge the execution of this at all. You just do it as best you can. Anything that happens is of course the responsibility of the seminar leader and neither mine nor yours, okay?

LRH: Well that's very, very good. Very good. Now, once more I'm going to ask you to start the body and when I tell you "Start the body," you start the body. All right?

Audience: Okay.

Okay. Now, start the body.

All right. Now, let's once more look at Mama — charming figure. And now, let's look at Papa. All right.

Good. Good. That's very, very good. That's very good. Did you start the body?

Now, let's look at Mama and hold her still.

PC: I've got some doubts.

All right. That's fine, that's fine.

LRH: Okay. Well, we're getting somewhere. All right. Stand right there now, and when I ask you to start the body, why, you start the body. All right?

Now, let's look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still. You hold Papa still. You making it?

Okay. Start the body.

Audience: Yeah.

All right, that's fine. That's fine. Did you start the body?

All right. All right. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You having difficulty doing this?

PC: As far as that particular set of actions isconcerned, I started the body, yes.

Audience: No.

LRH: What's the reservation on, anything in particular?

Huh?

PC: Start with connection of time of getting the body here and so forth.

Audience: No.

LRH: I see.

All right.

PC: As far as the time from your command on, I started the body into the actions that were visible and were different from those that took place before.

Now, once more look at Mama and you hold Mama still.

LRH: All right. Then you did start the body?

All right.

PC: Yes.

How are you getting along with that, huh?

LRH: All right. Did — in that degree you did?

Audience: Fine.

PC:Right. I'm .. .

Oh, you find a little more success in that this time?

LRH: All right. That's all right. That's fine. That's fine.

Audience: Yes. No.

PC: . . . fine on that. Okay.

No — yes, so on, so on?

LRH: That's fine. All right. Now. Now once more, when I ask you to start the body, why, you start the body, okay?

Well, I'll tell you, the task of holding these still of course is quite — is quite considerable because you aren't using enough force.

PC: Okay.

Now, I want you to use more force than you're using. I'm not joking now. And there's Papa and I want you to hold Papa still.

LRH: All right. Start the body.

Is he really getting quiet?

PC: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay, that's fine. Did you start the body?

Hm? All right. That's good, that's good. That's fine.

PC: I did.

Is — anybody hasn't had a win yet? All right.

LRH: You did. All right. Apparent to me that you did.

Is anybody still wondering why we're doing this because they're already still? Well, if that's the case, why, you'd have missed the point. The point is you — you see it's still because — maybe because of gravity and a whole lot of other things — but you hold it still. You be the sole agent that's holding that still. All right.

PC: Fine.

Now, let's look at Mama and you hold Mama still.

LRH: All right. Good.

All right. That's fine. That's fine.

PC:Good. I like this agreement.

If you're still getting a wobble or if you're still finding that there isn't anything to it, try a little harder.

LRH: Okay. I didn't have a thing to do with it.

And there's Papa — there's Papa there — now, that's Papa, you under-stand? That isn't our Papa, that's your Papa. Okay? Your Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

PC: No.

All right.

LRH: All right.

You getting Papa a little stiller? You kind of getting your hands on him?

Now, once more, once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to start the body, and you start the body.

Audience: Yes.

PC: Okay.

Huh?

LRH: Okay, start the body.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

Ah, you've been — you've been thinking I've been joking. You think I've been joking when I said use some force. I want you to, really. I want you to hold him still. Grrr-grrr-grr-grrr-grrrr. Got it? You know?

LRH: Good. Well, how was that?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Good, frankly.

Now, if you find out you can't reach up and put your theta paws on these relatives of yours, why you just try a little bit harder. Don't go sitting back and say, "It's all done with postulates anyhow."

LRH: Is that better?

Here's the way I want you to hold her still, see — crunch! Cruhh-ruhh!

PC: Yeah.

Now, you're going to find out how still something can get before you're through with this. Now, if you think anything else is connected with this figure, that is in motion, hold it still, too.

LRH: Well, all right, you started the body.

Now, there's Mama, your Mama, your dear Mama, your dear sweet Mama. The Mama, the pal of your cradle days. There she is. Now, you hold Mama still.

PC: Yeah.

Okay, okay. You're getting a little more successful, aren't you? Huh? Now, is somebody still thinking very foolishly this is done with postulates? Oh, you got the idea now?

LRH: Is that right?

I want you to hold, get the command, hold!

PC: I did.

All right. Now, there's Papa, the pal, the fellow that used to give you a dollar every time you asked for it. The fellow who loaned you his car any-time, gave you his little black address book — there he is, your pal, Papa. Your Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

LRH: Is that a little bit better than it was?

All right.

PC: Mm-mm.

How you doing now? Huh?

LRH: Well, okay. All right. Now, once more, I'm going to ask you to start the body and you start the body. All right?

Audience: All right.

PC: Mm-hm.

You sort of getting the idea of holding Papa still?

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Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. Start the body.

You know, not — well, there he is, he's still.

PC: Okay.

Now, you hold Papa still, you know, putting that postulate — "Well, hold still." Now, hold him still, hold him still. I don't care if you're clear at the back of the room. Get your theta paws on these characters now.

LRH: Good. Did you start the body?

Now, you hold — see Mama there? All right. Now, you hold Mama still. All right. That's good.

PC: Yeah, I did.

You getting a little more beef into it now?

LRH: All right. Well that's fine. That'll do for a demonstration a little bit. Be all right with you if we just level it off at that point?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Yeah. That's fine.

Huh? You getting a little more forte main — strength? Hm?

LRH: Huh? And you're doing all right?

The reason I want you to do that is parents [children] very seldom man-handle their mothers or fathers — very seldom beat them up — very seldom touch them. Isn't that kind of obvious? Huh?

PC: Yeah.

Well now, there's Papa there — there's Papa. Now, you hold Papa still! And I mean still.

LRH: Okay, now .. .

All right.

PC: I'm waiting to start marching, frankly.

How's that? Hm?

LRH: Yes.

Audience: All right.

PC:Oh, it's there. No problem.

Anybody getting better at this?

LRH: Yeah — yeah, all right. Okay, well, just for the record, we just wanted you to get the body started so we'd sort of have a session started. But this next one, I would like to have you stop the body in a drill.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

Getting a little better at it? Who's getting worse at it? All right.

LRH: It's a little drill that runs like this: We get the body moving over in that direction, and when I say "Stop," why, you stop the body. Is that .. .

Now, look at Mama, your Mama, the one that used to feed you skim milk — there she is; now you hold Mama still.

PC: Okay.

All right. How's that?

LRH: All right, that's the way it goes. All right, get the body moving in that direction.

Audience: Okay.

Stop.

Now, you getting so you get a little more force in it?

You get that military one? That's better.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Hup, two!

Can you hold her a little stiller?

LRH: Yeah, yeah, that's good. All right, once more, once more, we're going to practice stopping the body. Is that okay?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Yeah.

Huh? Getting so you can hold the whole thing still? You getting so you can use more force on it?

LRH: Hm?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: That's real good. Yeah, I'm with you.

How about you guys there in the back? You getting so you can get a little more force on it, huh? You can? All right. That's quite a long range there but I'm sure you can do it.

LRH: By the way, it'd be very amusing to you, perhaps to others, that I would just tell a preclear this at this point. I mean, this is not just a demonstration.

Now, you look at Papa — handsome dog — there he is, the fellow who used to get all of Mama's attention. Now, all right. You got him there?

PC: Okay, all right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: I was running a Grenadier Guard on "Stop the body" and he'd come along and he'd stop! Three paces. All right.

All right. Now, you hold Papa still!

PC: I know just how he felt too.

All right. How's that? Hm? You getting better at it? Can you put more force in it?

LRH: All right, all right. Now, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why you see — stop. All right? Get the body moving.

Audience: Yeah.

Stop.

You getting so you can really connect there better? All right.

Good. Did you stop the body? PC: I did. First time in a long time!

Now, how are you doing on pretending it is Papa or is Mama, huh?

LRH: All right. Now let's try that once more. I'm going to ask you to get the body moving over there, and at some point I will ask you to stop, and you stop. All right?

Audience: All right.

PC:All right.

Oh, you're doing all right at that, huh?

LRH: Okay. Get the body moving. Stop. Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: I'm almost at the point where I don't have to.

All right.

LRH: Almost — oh, really! All right. Now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving in that direction.

Now, look at Mama. Now, remember, get over this old kick of doing it with a postulate. Let's get some force in there and you hold Mama still. All right. All right. Okay.

PC: Yeah.

Does anybody still think there's a wind blowing her dress around?

LRH: All right, when I say "Stop," you stop. Okay. Get the body moving.

Audience: No, no.

Stop. That's good! That's good! That's real good! That's very good!

All right. Now — good.

PC:Yeah, it sure is.

Look at Papa, dear old Papa that always got the first crack at the funny page and the most comfortable chair — the best cut of meat at dinner. Look at him. Got him there?

LRH: I saw you do that.

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yup, I did it.

You got him for sure?

LRH: All right. Now once more, once more, we're going to ask you to get the body moving in that direction and when I say "Stop," stop. Okay? Very good. Very good. You feeling all right?

Audience: Yes.

PC: Fine, yeah.

All right.

LRH: All right. Good. Get the body moving.

Now, you hold Papa still.

Stop. Very good. Very good. Very good indeed.

Okay. How's that? Hm?

PC: Maybe I'll even be able to run 8-C now.

Audience: Fine. Good.

LRH: Well, I'll let you in on something. If you were to run this process on a person that hadn't had — that was having a rough time and you didn't have 8-C flat on them — this looks awful innocent what we're doing up here. But for your particular benefit, just your information .. .

Let me ask you this question as we go by this point. Now, are you able to use more force than you did before?

PC: All right.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: . . . if there's any doubt in your mind about a case, don't run this on them.

All right. Now, let's see if you can use even more force than you have been using and you hold — look at Mama now, look at Mama. All right. Now, you hold Mama still!

PC:Okay, all right.

Okay. How's that? Hm?

LRH: This process has more beef per square inch than you can shake a stick at even though it's very simple. I'm not asking you to now — to expect anything more from the process than what we're just doing. But I'm just telling you the reason I called you out of the front row is I knew you wouldn't splatter yourself all over the stage.

Audience: Fine. Mama's easier to hold.

PC: Thank you.

Mama's easier to hold now, huh? Now, there's — you finding it easier to use force on this?

LRH: All right, now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving over in that direction and when I say "Stop," you stop. Good?

Audience: Yes.

PC: Good.

All right. Now, I want you to use lots of force on it; I want you to use more than you've been using and I want you to introduce the idea of an absolute into this — an absolute stillness.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving.

Now, some of you've been arguing around and saying well, "The worth — the world is going around and we're going in various directions. There's molecules in that mass and all of that sort of thing and aside from this, why, we will hold those still." Now, that's true, isn't it? Some of you been doing that. Huh?

PC: Okay.

Well all right now, we want an absolute entered into this and I want you to hold all of those items absolutely still, too. You got it? Any molecules that you happen to think of, any turn of Earth — anything that's been bothering you about holding this thing absolutely still, you hold that still, too. You got that?

LRH: Stop. Very, very good! Very good. That's fine. That's fine. Thank you. Thank you.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Okay.

Huh? All right.

LRH: Now, did you stop the body?

We're going to introduce the idea of an absolute here.

PC: I did!

Now, look at Papa. Look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still!

LRH: Good. That's fine. That's fine. All right, now once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I ask you to stop, you stop. Okay? All right. Get the body moving.

Okay. How's that?

Stop. Very good, very good, very good. Thank you. Did you stop the body?

Audience: Good.

PC: I did.

Hm? Is that better? That better? Now, come on now, let's not dog off now, let's do this up as a good job.

LRH: Good. What's . . . How you doing?

Now, are you finding out that there's a stillness that occurs sometimes just for an instant?

PC: Feels flat frankly.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Feel flat?

Well, you've held it still haven't you?

PC: No, I mean, feels like the process is — has come to the point where I'm stopping my body.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: Well, very good. Very good. Now, you don't mind if we continue the process?

You've won, haven't you?

PC: No. No.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: This isn't an invalidation, you know.

Isn't that a little bit of a feeling of relief when you do that — ping! It's absolutely still, huh? Just an instant of stillness. Well now, if you haven't been getting too still, you work for that instant of stillness and you'll find it'll lengthen. Got it?

PC: Not a bit, no, uh-uh.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: They just haven't seen it enough.

All right. Now, look at Mama — look at Mama. Look at Mama there. Good. Now, you hold Mama still.

PC: All right — never sneak up on a preclear, he said.

Okay. How you doing?

LRH: Okay. By the way, do you notice I am touching the preclear's elbow occasionally steadying him down and so on? You'll find that it does maintain ARC after the preclear stops flinching. Don't refrain from doing it these days because it isn't a particularly bad boo-boo. All right, now once more I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop. Okay?

Audience: Good. Fine.

PC: Mm-hm.

Getting any wins?

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop! Very good. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Did you stop it?

Audience: Yes.

2 PC:Yes, I did.

All right. All right.

LRH: You just knew you stopped it.

Now, get the idea of force in this now. Get the idea of, "Hold them still with force," actually making contact with them, clamping them down right where they are.

PC: Mm-hm.

Look at Papa. Look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

LRH: Well, all right. Well, all right. You feeling all right about this?

All right. How's that?

PC: Mm-hm, I am.

Audience: Good.

LRH: How are you doing?

Are you getting better at this?

PC:Well.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Well. Good. All right. Now once more let's get the body moving in that direction and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Huh? You really getting better at this now, huh? You mean some of you are having some ridges blow or something? Aw, I didn't mean for that to happen. It's not supposed to have any effect on you. You have the effect on the dummy.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now look, look at Mama. Is she there?

LRH: You get the command now. When I say "Stop," you stop it.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Right.

Look at her. All right.

LRH: All right.

Now, you hold Mama still.

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. How are you doing?

LRH: Good. Let's get the body moving. Stop. All right. Good. Good. Let's turn it around

Audience: Fine. Okay.

PC: Okay.

Doing better?

LRH: All right, now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving; when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: You desire that I stop at any particular time span following your command?

Now, can you use more force than you did?

LRH: I desire you to stop when you know you're stopping the body.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Okay.

Huh? Are you the one that's using the force now?

LRH: Got it? When you know you're stopping the body. There isn't any drill here where I expect this to get into a perfectly rigid wham! You see? It'll do that soon enough. Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

All right, let's get the body moving.

All right.

PC: All right.

Now, look at Papa, look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

LRH: Stop! Did you stop your body?

Okay. How is that? Hm? Are you getting better at it or worse?

PC: I did.

Audience: Better.

LRH: You did. You did stop your body?

Oh, you're getting a little better at it, huh?

PC: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. All right. Now you — are you going a little bit further to make sure that you stopped it?

A lot better?

PC: I didn't, but I can.

Audience: Yes. No.

LRH: No, I'm not asking you to.

No. Just a little better?

PC: No, I stopped it.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: You stopped it. All right. Now, once more, it's all right if you continue this process a little bit?

All right. Is anything wrong? Anybody feel like he's going mad? Any feel — body feel like that? Huh? Anybody feel real restless?

PC: Yep.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Hm? Hm?

You feel real restless, huh?

PC: Yep.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Is there any — have you — have you recalled any naval marching, and so forth as we have been doing this?

Hey, listen. What did I tell you? I want you to hold this still — not your Mama back on the track but your Mama right here. Now, if you feel restless, you're holding the wrong Mama. This is the one we want to hold, okay?

PC: Which life?

Now, let's just establish this Mama again. Is this Mama here?

LRH: That's very good.

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yes, I have. Which life? Yeah, I've had all sorts of it.

Has this Mama got a little mass?

LRH: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Uh-huh.

Has this Mama got some mass?

LRH: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

PC:A lot of it in front of audiences like this.

Well all right. Is that Mama standing there?

LRH: No kidding?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Kind of afraid of those walls.

Well all right. It does exist then?

LRH: Good. All right. Now, once more. When I ask you to get the body moving, why, you get it moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop the body. Is that all right?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

You can see it?

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop! Okay.

Audience: Yes.

All right. Let's turn it around. Good. And once more when I ask you to get the body moving — when I ask, you get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

Well all right. All right.

PC: Right.

Now, you hold Mama still.

LRH: That okay with you? You're doing all right?

All right. That's a little better now, isn't it?

PC: Yep.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. I don't expect anything to happen.

Huh? Is that a little better? Easier to do it that way?

PC:Well, I don't but, I'm not sure yet.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. All right.

All right. All right.

PC: A lot already has happened.

Now, just look at Papa again. Look at Papa. Got Papa there?

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Okay.

Is Papa standing there?

LRH: Stop. Good. Good. Fine. All right, turn it around. Now, once more, let's get the body moving. When I say "Stop," stop it. Okay?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, look actually, factually, is that there?

LRH: All right, get the body moving.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

That right there?

LRH: Stop! Good. I like that one, two.

Audience: Yes.

PC: I stopped it.

That is there?

LRH: But you did stop it. You know you stopped it.

Audience: Yes.

PC: Right.

Now, this is what you're holding still — not something back on the track. I want you to use force to hold this still. Force, that's right. All right. Got it now?

LRH: All right. All right. You stopped it.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: In fact, I'm rather enjoying that part, because before tonight, I had to stop that way.

Now, you hold Papa still.

LRH: No kidding.

Okay. How's that, huh?

PC: Oh Lord, touch a wall. One, two.

Audience: Okay, fine.

LRH: Is that right?

Now, you still feel as restless as you did or more so? Be honest.

PC: They know.

Audience: No.

LRH: Yeah, all right. All right, once more, when I ask you to get the body moving, I want you to get it moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

You still feel as restless?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: No.

LRH: Good. All right, get the body moving. Stop. Did you stop it?

Huh? Feel a little better? Well now, let's establish this real good. Establish Mama real good — real — very well here. Establish her very well. What year is this?

PC: Yes.

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

LRH: Good. Good. That's all right. All right. And you don't mind if we continue this process a little bit?

That got it.

PC: No.

Well — what year is this?

LRH: Do you? Audience: No.

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

LRH: All right. Now, I'm going to ask you once more to get the body moving, and when I say "Stop," why you stop the body. All right?

All right. You know that?

PC: Right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Good. Get the body moving.

You know that.

Stop. Good. All right. That's very, very good. That's very good. Fine. You stopped it, huh?

Where are you sitting?

PC: I stopped it.

Audience: Here.

LRH: You know you stopped it that time. Didn't you?

Where am I sitting?

PC:Yes, Sir.

Audience: There.

LRH: Your — you have a good certainty.

All right. That's fine. That's fine.

PC: Yeah.

It's kind of a tough row to hoe, isn't it?

LRH: Are you still worried about something that might happen?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: No.

All right.

LRH: Did you stop worrying about it just now? You were worrying about it here just a moment ago. That's why .. .

Now, there's Mama right there. Look at Mama.

PC:We were talking about it then.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: We were talking about it then.

Got her?

PC: That was when you promised that nothing was going to happen and I've learned to doubt you.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. All right. Well, I didn't — I didn't particularly want to upset you by carrying you on too far in the process, you see.

All right. Now, you hold Mama still.

PC: No, I don't feel that I have been.

You doing it?

LRH: No, well, that's all right. Okay, well, let's turn the body around and you feel — you feel this is pretty flat?

Audience: No.

PC:I don't feel it's as flat as I thought it was about five minutes ago.

I'll give you a little tip. If you keep losing at this you're going to be in horrible shape very shortly, I assure you.

LRH: So you think we really ought to continue it a little bit?

Now, look, tell you what you do. You kind of say, "There she is," you know, and you say, "Crunch," you know, and she's still just for a split instant. You're sure she is, see. "Crunch," you know. Ghk! And then she goes wobble-wobble-wobble. We don't care about that. Just as long as she's still just pop! Got that? Huh? All right. That's all we want. That's all we want.

PC:I think we can. We can leave it. It's .. .

Now, let's look at her again and let's just try that. Let's just try for an instantaneous stillness if you're having any difficulty.

LRH: It's all right to leave it.

Now, did you make it this time?

PC:Yeah, it's all right to leave it.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: You don't think we ought to continue it a little bit?

Is anybody — hasn't made it yet? All right. Okay, okay. You did it that time, huh?

PC: Anytime I can get you to process me, we should go on and on and on.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. All right.

I don't care how much force you have to use or what you have to put up around them or how hard you have to scrunch them — let's make it. All right. Now, look at Papa, look at Papa. Is Papa there?

PC:I'll leave it up to your purposes of demonstration.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: Well, all right. Now, just for the fun of it — just for the fun of it this time, you be very doubly sure that you stopped it. Okay?

Got Papa?

PC: All right.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: Anything that you have to do to make sure that you stopped it is quite important.

All right. Now, if only for an instant or a longer time, you hold Papa still. All right. How is that?

PC: All right.

Audience: Fine.

LRH: All right. And I'm going to ask you "Get the body moving." When I say "Stop," you stop it. All right? Good. Get the body moving.

Okay.

Stop. Okay. Did you stop it?

Is anybody still losing? Is anybody winning now more consistently?

PC: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. You did do that?

You winning real consistently now?

PC: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. What's the matter?

Is it better?

PC: You're trying to sneak me out of my head, too.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: I wouldn't do a thing like that.

You really doing better now?

PC: Not the first time.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Okay, and once more. When I ask you to get the body moving, why, you get it moving; when I say "Stop," you stop it.

Huh? All right.

PC: Right.

If you can get her still with whatever force just for an instant — why, see if you can get her still for just a little bit longer and if you can finally relax down to the level of a lightning bolt to hold her still, that's okay. All right?

LRH: Good. And this time let's be real sure that you stopped it. That's good. Okay. All right. Get the body moving.

Go on, look at Mama, look at Mama now. Look at Mama. Got her?

Stop. Very good. Very good. Very good. Did you stop it?

Now, you hold Mama still.

PC: Yes.

Okay. How's that?

LRH: Good. Well, fine. That's fine. Fine. And once more, this — when I ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving, when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

Audience: Fine.

PC: Mm-hm.

You getting winnier about this, huh?

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop. Good. Did you stop it? PC: Yes.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: Well, very, very good. Very good. There'. nothing wrong with that at all, is there?

Well okay, all right. That's fine.

PC: No, uh-uh. I'm enjoying it.

Now, look at Papa, look at Papa — anybody losing badly on Papa still? Hm? All right. Look at Papa there — use force but do it more absolutely. You hold Papa still!

LRH: Good. Good. That's fine. That's fine. Of course, you guys think we ought to be doing something else up here. Preclear', still alive.

All right. How's that? Hm?

PC: Lucky!

Audience: All right.

LRH: But the actuality is — the actuality is what — how are you doing right here?

Oh, you're winning more and more and more?

PC: Very well. I'm — you want me to tell them?

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Yeah. Tell them.

You are, huh? Well, all right. All right. All right.

PC: Well, I came up here with twelve or fifteen years, that I'm real certain about in this lifetime — of military experience — eighteen, excuse me. And as I mentioned before when I made a stop, that — my own command or somebody else's — it was more on the military side than I knew about. This is gone now and I can now stop in a military fashion or not, by choice. Also, a lot of stuff has come off that's just ridges, so to speak.

Let's look at Mama again — we're going to run this about two more times and then we're going to wind it up. Is that all right with you?

LRH: Hm. Good. Good. That's very good. Now you're — you haven't got a somatic or anything like that?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: No.

All right. All right. Oh, we'll get another hour later.

LRH: All right. All right. Good. Well, you want to do this a few more times?

All right. You look at — look at Mama there. Now, you hold Mama still! All right. How is that?

PC: Sure.

Audience: Fine.

LRH: Well, all right. All right. Now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Get a win?

PC: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop.Good. Good. Did you stop it?

Has she for anybody jumped off the table and run around it a couple of times and sprung back up on it again or anything like that? Huh? Now, tell me — has she done that? Huh? Has she wiggled a little bit to some people?

PC: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Very good. Very good. Very good. Now, once more, once more — we'll do it again. Okay?

Well, you're supposed to hold her still.

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. Look at Papa. All right. Now, you hold Papa still.

LRH: All right, when I ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving and then when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Okay. How's that?

PC: Right.

Audience: All right. Great.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving.

All right. It's going to be just one more command here. Look at Mama, look at her. Establish her. What year is it?

Stop. Good. How's that?

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

PC: Good.

All right. Now, look at her real carefully. She is there.

LRH: Did you stop it?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Yes, I did.

All right. Now, you hold Mama still.

LRH: You know you stopped it.

How's that?

PC: I know I stopped it.

Audience: Very good.

LRH: You know you stopped it very absolutely.

Did you get a win?

PC: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: How do you feel about it?

We quitting on a win?

PC: Good.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Good.

Is anybody quitting on a lose? No? All right. All right. All right. All right. Just look at Mama.

PC: Very pleased.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: You don't feel upset about anything, huh? You did a moment a — about four commands ago there, didn't you, a little bit?

Good. Good. Look at Papa.

PC: Yeah, uh-huh.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: What did you feel upset about?

Good. Good. Look at Mama.

PC: I don't know, I was queasy.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: Isn't that interesting.

Good. Good. Look at Papa.

PC: Huh-ha.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: All right. All right. Well, that isn't really a thorough run on this. But, there is another one that I would like you to do. You want to do this just a couple more times and then switch to the other one?

Good. Good. All right. How are you?

PC: It's all right to leave this now or we can do it a couple more times.

Audience: Fine.

LRH: Well, is it all right to leave it now?

All right. Where's the floor?

PC: Yeah. Uh-huh.

Where am I?

LRH: It really is?

Audience: Right there.

PC: Oh, yeah.

Good. Where's the rest of you?

LRH: All right. And you're doing all right?

Audience: Right here.

PC: Yes.

All right. Good. Where are you?

LRH: All right. Well, then I'd like to run another process that has to do with the same thing. This process I'm running on you is actually the elementary SCS. There's another one called Stop-C-S which is quite distinctly different. It's not run any differently, but it is run with a bit more violence.

Audience: Here.

PC: Okay.

Good. Where's the right-hand wall?

LRH: And we're not doing that one.

Audience: There.

PC: Okay.

Good. Where's the left-hand wall?

LRH: All right.

Audience: There.

PC:Saving it.

Good. Where's the back of the room?

LRH: Yeah, no, I've not — really been saving one for you.

Audience: There.

PC: All right.

Good. Where's the ceiling?

LRH: This one this time is Change.

Audience: There.

PC: All right.

Good. Where's the floor?

LRH: Change. We're going to have three spots here. Okay? And one spot, we will call spot A. See. It'd be right in about here — area.

Good. All right.

PC: Okay.

Now, as difficult as it is, I know, to leave this fascinating pastime, I really factually believe that we ought to have a break, don't you?

LRH: And we're going to have another area over here that we're going to call spot B. Okay?

Audience: Yes.

PC: Mm-hm.

All right.

LRH: And we're going to have another one over here that we're going to call spot C. And we're going to have another one over here that we call spot D.

You've been very, very good preclears and I will see you again at five minutes past four.

PC: All right.

LRH: And it's run this way: I'm going to ask you to change the body's position on command and it will be from that spot to that spot, you see? And then we will do it again and change over to that spot. And we do it again and change over to that spot and so forth. The — to the spot which is called — we won't necessarily do it in a diamond pattern, you see.

PC:Oh, good. A, B, C, D, right?

LRH: It's A, B, C, D. Got it?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, let's take on position A here. Now, I'll show you exactly how this is done: Is I will ask you to change the body and actually I will say "When I say change the body, I want you to change the body's position from A to B." That would be it. And when I'd say that, then you would move from here over to here. Now, don't think that I'm considering you a dumb preclear by explaining this.

PC: No, all right.

LRH: That's what we know as changing the body's position from there to there.

PC: Right.

LRH: All right, well, let's take spot A again, and let's really run it this time.

PC: Okay.

LRH: And I'm going to ask you to change the body and when I do that, I want you to change the body's position from A to B. Okay?

PC: Right.

LRH: All right. You got that real flat?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Change the body's position. Good, good, good. You did that very well.

PC: Thank you.

LRH: You do that very well.

All right, now there's spot C over there. Now, when I ask you to change the — change the body, I want you to change the body's position from B to C. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. That's very clear, huh? All right. Change the body. That's good. That's good. Did you do that?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Now, you understand the command, I want you to change this, see?

PC: Yes. It's coming through to me. Yeah.

LRH: Well, I'm saying that — I'm not saying that in criticism of what you're doing. I merely want to punch up the fact that I am asking you .. .

PC: Right.

LRH: . . . to change the body's position. I'm not asking for the body's position to change, not because I would necessarily not, or be able to change the body's position myself. But unless we picked up some awareness with this, at the same time, I'm afraid we could run this all night and you wouldn't have the slightest.

PC: Yes.

LRH: See, power of choice has got to come in here.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Now, when I ask you to change the body this time, I want you to change the body's position from C to D. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Change the body. Good, good, good.

PC:I did it.

LRH: That's very good. You did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You know you did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right, now once more. Once more. Now, when I ask you to change the body I want you to change the body's position from D to A.

PC: Good.

LRH: Okay. All right. Change the body.

Okay. Did you do that?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What's the matter?

PC: Feels different when I do it!

LRH: All right. All right. Now, once more I'm going to ask you to — when I say "Change the body," why, I want you to change the body's position from A to C. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, change the body. Did you?

PC: I did.

LRH: Good, all right. All right, that's very good. Are you doing all right?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: I mean, this brings on no dizziness or anything of any character?

PC: Not a bit.

LRH: Because I will guarantee to you, folks, that this is not the most therapeutic of these three commands.

PC:No, it doesn't bother me at all.

LRH: All right. Okay.

PC:And I'll tell you if it does.

LRH: Very good, very good, very good. All right. Now, once more I want you to go through this. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: As a matter of fact we can go through it just two more commands.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: And then we've got one to return to that we were doing before.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Now when I ask you to change the body's — change the body, I want you to change the body's position from C to D. Okay? All right, change the body.

That upset you?

PC: No. Not at all.

LRH: All right. Change the body.

Got it?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

PC: I didn't do that one.

LRH: You didn't do that one?

PC:Uh-uh. I just sort of went along with it.

LRH: Well, you want to do this a couple more times?

PC: All right. Be a good idea.

LRH: All right. Now, this time I'm going to ask you to change the body and I want you to change the body's position from A to C. All right?

PC: Right.

LRH: Good. All right. Change the body. Did you?

PC: Yes, I did.

LRH: Oh, you did! All right, now this time I'm going to ask you to change the body, and I want you to change the body from C to A. Okay?

PC: Okay. Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, change the body.

Good. How's that?

PC: Fine. Feel good.

LRH: That was pretty good, huh?

PC:Yeah. I did it.

LRH: You did it. You did that real good.

PC: Yes, I did.

LRH: Well, all right now, do you suppose we could consider that flat?

PC: Sure.

LRH: Huh?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: We can knock off that particular process. Is it all right with you if I make a few remarks to the audience concerning the process?

PC: Certainly.

LRH: Okay. Now, that in essence is simple SCS. It's very simple. You would run it at the beginning of a session to get the preclear in-session.

Now the funny part of it is, if I asked Carl right now whether or not the auditing room was more real to him, I could tell you pretty sure what he'd answer.

PC: Yes!

LRH: Uh-huh. Very definitely.

PC:It's real real. I'm here.

LRH: You're here, and is your auditor a little more .. .

PC: Yeah.

LRH: . . . squared around? How about you? You're here.

PC:I feel quite a sense of elation .. .

LRH: Good!

PC:. . . from knowing that I have run the body once in a while.

LRH: All right, all right, all right! In other words, in addition to starting a session which is the basic use of Start, Change and Stop — which is run in almost any order, except Stop first. You wouldn't run SCS with Stop first. That makes it a different process entirely — we then have been able to start a session. Do you see this? We have a preclear in good shape then. And we could run him very easily on processes which he ordinarily might not get much gain on, you see? And we could just run that to start a session with, to get a session started.

Now, you understand that it's awfully good as a sort of an 8-C, but it's an introverted process. It is not an extrovert process at all. 8-C is an extrovert process. Walk over to the wall and touch it. You know, that's a wall! That isn't what he's doing at all. He's walking a body around here, and he's actually right up against the bank when he's doing this. See that? He had marching and all kinds of things mixed up in that.

Well, there are other processes to run. You could have him run processes of a very modern nature, yeah, after this. But the preclear would be sufficiently in-session so that if anything happened untoward, the auditor would have no great difficulty snapping him back into session again. Do you follow that? He wouldn't have a lot of difficulty snapping him back into session again because the preclear already knows he is running the body. He isn't under some kind of a quasi belief that the auditor is stuck in his head, too. You see this? It's kind of the way it feels.

All right, now that would be the process I would recommend to you to start your sessions with. Got that very clearly? I would recommend that process to you on any preclear to start the sessions with. And I'll show you a couple of minor points here — is it all right? And these are simply this.

We walk with the preclear. You see this. We walk along with the preclear. We don't let him get too far ahead of us. You see that? In other words, don't get that terminal too far apart, see? Another thing, we touch the preclear every now and then. Because we have to keep the preclear slightly extroverted. We make him aware of the auditor by tactile. Now a lot of preclears — go ahead and flinch. That's too good a flinch! Much too good a flinch!

Now, let me show you something. Did you notice that even though he went away from me I still kept hold of his elbow?

Now, jerk the elbow away and say that you don't like people touching you.

PC: I don't like people touching me.

LRH: Oh, well, that's all right. PC: You won't get far!

LRH: Well, I know, but — that's one of the things that happens with this process. You really get over that sort of thing, you know? Smooth, huh?

PC: Smooth as butter.

LRH: But, I'll tell you something. If your preclear continues to have a tactile difficulty with you as the auditor, he hasn't got an auditor. Follow me? If a preclear is always afraid that the auditor is going to touch him in some little fashion, what do you think he thinks about his bank and the auditor touching it? He's going as far as his mind is concerned — flinch, flinch. You see? And he finds out that he doesn't get bitten, but he also finds out that he doesn't get loose.

That's right, isn't it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: The way you handle that is although you touch him on the elbow, you will find that there is a bending joint on the elbow right there, and even though he can jerk a little bit out of it so you don't want to crush him, you're right there again, because he can't jerk his arm very fast that way. He has a tendency to have to turn his body in order to get free from you, do you see? So this is just a little interesting point.

Another thing is, is why do you walk with a preclear? To give the auditor exercise, of course. No, there's an actual fact — there's an actual fact connected with it. I'll show you something.

All right, walk there. That's good. Walk there. Good. Walk there.

You don't like that, do you?

PC: Uh-uh. No! There's been a change.

LRH: Been a change, hasn't it!

PC: Yes.

LRH: Look at that! Why? There's no mimicry! You see? No mimicry at all. And so, there really is no good communication between the auditor and the preclear.

Did I ruin you completely by doing that?

PC: No.

LRH: Actually, if you did that to somebody who was real flighty, they would get real flighty.

All right, now listen.

PC:Yes, Sir.

LRH: I want to show them another process .. .

PC:"Sir," I said it too.

LRH: Huh?

PC:I said, "Sir."

LRH: Oh, that's good, that's good. That's all

All right. This I am going to show them is Stop-C-S. You don't run "C" until Stop is flat. If you — this won't happen to you — but if you had to scrape your preclear off the ceiling or something as a result of doing this, remember Ron said, "Take Indoctrination before you run Stop-C-S," okay? I think some of the HGC auditors over there will tell you something about this since I think they've had two or three blowups here that they have handled very adequately. You understand, when the preclear blows up in this, he would blow up anywhere — sometime. But he blows up — he gets it over with and he practically blows Clear, because he comes out of the central engram he's held in.

Well, we're not trying to do that to you.

PC: Okay.

LRH: But...

PC: I know you're encouraging me — you're discouraging me.

LRH: No, no I'm not trying to encourage you to do anything. I'm just telling these characters that I've — I'm being a good guy and I'm showing them a very recent process.

PC: Okay.

LRH: And I'm also hanging a little tag on it that says "Danger, 10,000 volts."

PC: Body?

LRH: "Call the undertaker." No, I don't think it will kill anybody if you're a good auditor.

All right. This is Stop-C-S. PC: Right.

LRH: And when I ask you to get the body moving, I want you to get the body moving over there. And when I ask you to stop the body, you stop it as still as you can, as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still.

Audience: Phew!

LRH: You got it?

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: You got it.

PC:Yeah, as quick as I can, as still as I can and hold it absolutely still.

LRH: That's right!

PC: All right.

LRH: That's right.

PC: And I do it.

LRH: You do it!

PC: All right.

LRH: You do it. All right. Now, you got it? All right. Now, all I'm going to tell you is just "Stop."

All right, get the body moving.

Stop. That's right, that's right. Did you do it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Did you manage it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Is the heart still beating?

PC: I didn't go into those minor details.

LRH: Oh, well. We'll get into this in a minute. All right, all right. It's okay, it's okay. You did well, you did well. All right, now I want you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can — you doing it. And hold it absolutely still. Okay, you got that?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop. Okay, how was that?

PC: I don't know what happened to the heart that time.

LRH: You don't, huh. Were you satisfiedthough the body was still?

PC:Yeah. I have a reservation here.

LRH: What?

PC: If you stop me off balance I'm not going to freeze and fall. In other words, if you said "Stop" when I was like so, oh, Jesus!

LRH: Well, these are your own considerations. I mean I'm not — I'm just saying — just--no responsibility, no responsibility. Okay, all right. Now once more .. .

PC: Really.

LRH: Let's go through that same one. Allright, get the body moving.

Stop. Good. Well, how do you think you did that time?

PC: Pretty well.

LRH: Pretty well.

PC: I'm not ready to hang it there off balance yet.

LRH: Oh, do you understand there might be a possibility that you could?

PC:Yeah, definitely.

LRH: You all of a sudden recognized that.

PC:That was last time, this was that light I was turning on.

LRH: Oh, I see. He recognizes that you might stop a body that way without falling on its face. That's pretty good.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: That's pretty good. All right. Once more I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving, and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Good, good. All right, get the body moving.

Stop! Okay, how's that?

PC: Kind of shaky.

LRH: Oh, it was shaking.

PC:No, it's quivering slightly.

LRH: Quivering.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: All right.

PC: Apparently it was a lot of effort tied into it.

LRH: That's an interesting thing. I don't care how much effort goes into it. You don't either. I mean, so what? What do you think about it? Is your critical level on how still "still" is, is suddenly risen. Is that right? Is that what's happening?

PC: Something in here. Yeah. Ten minutes ago, I would have said that I'd stopped four times and my body was getting tired of holding itself but now I doubt it.

LRH: Yeah? All right, all right, all right.

Once more let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop — you stop the body as quick as you can and know that you stopped it of course, and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

All right. Get it moving.

Stop! Good, it's good. That's good. Did a little better that time.

PC: Mm-hm. Yeah. My eyeballs stopped twitching, too.

LRH: All right, all right. Let's try it again.

PC: All right.

LRH: Let's try it again. Okay. That's real good. Now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's the matter.

PC: I'm thinking of Elizabeth.

LRH: Yeah?

PC: New Jersey.

LRH: Yeah?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What about it?

PC: Oh, some conversations were going through my mind, frankly. I'm back now.

LRH: What was the matter? What about them?

PC: Oh, it was a whole string of stuff came off there on Dianetics.

LRH: What was it? What did it connect with?

PC: Oh, para-Scientology these days — para-Dianetics in those days.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Two pencils, a train went by, a conversation we had at breakfast the other day or lunch the other day.

LRH: Good. Swish, swish.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, all right. Well, all right. Okay. You all set now?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving. Stop! Okay. How are you making it?

PC: Good.

LRH: Was that better?

PC:Yes, it was. Uh-huh.

LRH: All right, all right. Good, good, good. All right, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can — knowing you stopped it — and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, we can actually consider that a sort of a condensed command, can't we? When you stop it as quick as you can, you also stop it as still as you can.

PC: Right.

LRH: Got the idea?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get it moving.

Stop! Okay, all right, all right. Did you do it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You did it. That's a boy, that's a boy. You got a quiver on it?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Coming up.

LRH: Yeah?

PC:A little stronger. I .. .

LRH: The quiver is stronger .. .

PC:. . . see, I feel a little quiver in the right knee there.

LRH: ... the quiver is stronger?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Oh, no.

PC:Oh, yes.

LRH: Now look, if you think I'm trying to get you to blow or do something like that just for the audience benefit, I'm not.

PC: No, I know it.

LRH: I'm not. But I will tell you confidentially, that preclears sometimes sit on a rest point surrounded by a lot of motion, and they sometimes come off of them. I don't know what happens when they come off of them but you're .. .

PC: I'm in good hands. LRH: You're in good hands.

PC: All right, okay.

LRH: All right, all right, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay? All right. Does a naval valence have anything to do with this?

PC: No, not much navy here.

LRH: Not much navy — what is here?

PC: While you were talking then, I had quitea pain coming up through here.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: Not to mention any old spear wounds. It feels a hell of a lot like it.

LRH: All right.

PC:I won't go into details.

LRH: All right. Now, once more let's go through the same one. All right? Get the body moving, and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. Actually, I might even amend the auditing command there if it'd make better sense to you. Does it make good sense to you?

PC:Yeah. It seems to be perfectly fine.

LRH: All right, good. Well, get the body moving.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Stop. All right, how was that?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Did you make it better?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

PC: Also getting more used to the command.

LRH: Mm-hrn.

PC: Uh — up till now I've been stopping and holding it waiting for a command to let go.

LRH: Oh!

PC: I wasn't recognizing your okays and that sort of thing.

LRH: Oh, an acknowledgment suddenly hit. Good.

PC: Fine.

LRH: Good.

PC: Fine.

LRH: Good.

PC: Wonderful!

LRH: All right.

PC: That's what you mean, huh!

LRH: Yeah, that's what I mean. All right nos again, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quickly as you can and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, good. Just make sure you're doing it. You know? Understood? You understand that if you have to move a little further to make sure you're doing it, that's all right with me.

PC: Yeah, okay.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop! Okay. How was that?

PC: Good, much better.

LRH: Better? How's the quiver?

PC:It's the other knee.

LRH: Oh, it's the other knee!

PC:It isn't the quivering — it's just a shock ii back.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Balance, I don't know.

LRH: All right, all right.

Okay, you understand what we're doing up here?

Audience: Yes! Yeah!

LRH: You know what we're doing?

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Do you really know what we're doing?

PC: Aren't they lucky.

Audience: No.

LRH: What do you think the common denominator of every accident that a guy has ever been in is?

Audience: Stop.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Stop.

LRH: He depends on the physical universe to stop him all the time, doesn't he?

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: So he loses control of stop, doesn't he?

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Because stop is bad, isn't it?

Audience: Uh-huh. Yeah.

LRH: Yet stop is part of start, change and stop, which is the three factors of control, isn't it?

Audience: Yeah. Yes.

LRH: How do you expect a guy to control anything if he can't stop things?

Audience: You can't.

LRH: All right — let's get to work.

Okay, now once more. Did that bother you?

PC: Mm-mm.

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quickly as you can and hold it that way. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's the matter, you got atummy diaphragm hitting you?

PC: No — it's through there.

LRH: It's still through there? You've still got the same somatic.

PC: Right.

LRH: Hey, look, are you slacking off on the amount of effort you're using on that stuff?

PC: No.

LRH: You're not, you're not at all, huh? All right, good. If it takes effort, you know, it takes effort.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. All right, get the body moving Stop! Okay, how was that?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Did you do it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You did it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Still got a somatic?

PC: Mm, barely.

LRH: Barely! Oh, you mean something's happening to the somatic? Aw, this is bad. You'll have to — have to invent some somatics.

PC: I think I have.

LRH: All right. Once more, let's get the body moving, when I say "Stop," you stop it, and having done so, why, make sure that the stop is sufficient so the body is absolutely still. You know, that's what I mean.

PC: After I make the stop, I check to make sure it's still.

LRH: That's right, that's right. Would you do that? I'm not — I'm changing the auditing command just a little bit but I'm just trying to communicate a better understanding.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right, let's get the body moving. Stop! Okay, how's that?

PC: I didn't check afterwards.

LRH: You didn't check.

PC: Uh-uh.

LRH: Well, that's all right, all right. Let's try it again.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Let's try it again, let's do the same thing only let's make sure we check.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right, get the body moving.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Stop! All right. All right, you did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You did it. Body seemed stiller than it was?

PC:Yes it did. Actually it's very difficultfor me at least, to check — use a mentalprocess immediately after making ahard stop. Ughhhhh! Why not!

LRH: Why not!

All right. Well, let's just do this a couple of more times. How's that somatic?

PC: Faint but there.

LRH: Faint but there. Well, now listen.

PC:It's standing still that gives it to me.

LRH: You really object to stopping the session after a couple of more times.

PC: No, I don't.

LRH: Standing still gives it to you?

PC: Yeah, I'm suspicious of what we've been stopping.

LRH: Oh!

PC:No, it's lack of effort I think.

LRH: Lack of effort.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: You have a curiosity about what's wrong?

PC: No, uh-uh. I'm cur — I have a curiosity about what it is but not the detail of an incident or anything.

LRH: Well, all right. All right. Now I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quickly as you can, and hold it absolutely still. Got it?

PC: You want me to check this now?

LRH: Yes, and I sure want you to check it so you're satisfied. All right, let's get the 6body moving.

Stop! All right, what you got?

PC: After you stop it you don't need effort anymore.

LRH: Interesting, isn't it?

PC:Yes, it is.

LRH: Interesting, yes! All right, well now, how's the somatic?

PC:A little heavier than it was last time.

LRH: Oh! Heavier! That's all right. We can take care of that.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right, now once more let's — we'd better run it, oh, about three, four more times, huh?

PC: All right.

LRH: All right, now once more, let's get the body moving; when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quickly as you can, and hold it absolutely still and find out if you did. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right, let's get the body moving. Stop! How'd that seem to you?

PC:I did it.

LRH: You did it. You did it all right.

PC: And actually, this period of seconds

after I stopped, the somatic is completely gone.

LRH: And now, it's back again.

PC: Very — less — at a lesser rate however.

LRH: Well, all right. Let's do that again. I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, and when I say "Stop" .. .

Do you know why I'm repeating this auditing command to him every time? Do you know why?

Audience: No. Why?

LRH: Because it's a new instant of time. We're not running a session dependent upon the first command I gave him.

PC: We couldn't run this with one command.

LRH: That's right. It'd go blooey.

All right. Now, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop, and then hold it absolutely still. All right? Good, let's get the body moving.

Stop! Okay, all right, all right. You did — you doing better on it?

PC: Oh, yeah.

LRH: You've still got a somatic, I suppose.

PC: No.

LRH: It's gone down, it's gone down appreciably. All right, let's do it a couple of more times.

PC: All right.

LRH: I think we've got three more coming on this.

PC: Okay.

LRH: We just may. All right now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving — I want you to get it moving. When I ask you to stop, why, you stop, and hold it absolutely still. Stop it as quickly as possible and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, now, let's get the body moving. Stop! All right, how's that?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Pretty good? Pretty good? All right now once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, and when you get the body moving, I will say "Stop" somewhere along the line and when I say "Stop," I want you to stop the body as quickly as possible and hold it absolutely still. And then sort of check it to make sure you did it. Okay?

All right, good. Now, let's get the body moving.

Stop!

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. How was that?

PC: All right.

LRH: How's the self-critical factor here. You're doing better?

PC:Yeah, I think so.

LRH: No quiver?

PC: No, the quiver's been gone for four or five times.

LRH: Just been gone, huh. How's the somatic?

PC: Very faint.

LRH: Too faint, huh?

PC: I don't — I don't think a few more would do it any good .. .

LRH: Oh, you think it's stuck now. Well, let's see — we did one, two; we got one more, one more.

All right. Now I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when you get the body moving, I'm going to ask you to stop and when I say "Stop," I want you to stop the body as quickly as you can and then hold it absolutely still. Then check it and find out if you did it. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop!

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You did it. All right, how are you feeling?

PC: Good.

LRH: Doing all right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Doing all right?

PC: Really am.

LRH: Okay, still got a somatic?

PC: Faint.

LRH: Faint somatic. Oh, all right. You're not having too rough a time of it.

PC: No, no — it's gone — it's gone.

LRH: Oh, no, no we're not worried about the people.

PC: All right.

LRH: Preclear, you're doing all right, though?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You still got a little somatic?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You got any tummy quiver?

PC: No.

LRH: Just a somatic goes with this.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Well, can we consider this — it isn't and it wouldn't be for another ten to fifteen hours of processing — but you can consider this momentarily flat.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Momentarily flat, and you don't think it would be of any vast disturbance if we knocked it off. Huh?

PC:Oh, not a bit, no.

LRH: You're doing all right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You mind if we run another little process which is a cute little gimmick process; it goes about five minutes. Huh?

PC: Sure.

LRH: Would you like to do that?

PC:Love to.

LRH: All right. Now, hand me his chair.

Okay, now I want you to sit down there. Would you please?

PC: Surely.

LRH: Okay. All I want you to do — this is a — this is a kind of a funny looking process and they're going to laugh like hell, but I want you to do this process anyway. You see we've got a little somatic and I want to clean it up fast.

PC: Okay.

LRH: See? And we're going to run a little process that's known as Curiosity.

PC: Okay.

LRH: And the only reason we're running Curiosity at all — don't you people do this by the way, just the preclear, you understand? The only reason we're going to do this is just to maybe knock out the somatic slightly.

PC:All right.

LRH: Or make it so horrible that you won't be able to sleep all night. No telling.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right, now I want you to — actually what happens is I'm going to wiggle my hand, and I'm going to ask you to become curious about what I'm doing.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Got it? I'm going to ask you to become curious about what I'm doing. That's all there is to it.

PC: All right.

LRH: You just manage a curiosity about what I'm doing. Is that okay?

PC: Good.

LRH: All right. Did you?

PC: Yep.

LRH: Did you really become curious about it?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right, how's that?

PC: Good!

LRH: Good. All right, now I'm going to ask you to become curious about this motion, and you do so. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

PC: Okay.

LRH: You did that?

PC:Yeah. You know, this is not flattering to the auditor. This is not flattering to you.

LRH: Why?

PC: To my curiosity — why would any so-and-so do a thing like that?

LRH: Pretty good! Pretty good.

PC:It's good for somatics too.

LRH: That's very good. Huh?

PC:It's good for somatics too.

LRH: What happened to the somatic?

PC:It's gone completely.

LRH: No kidding.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Well, all right! Why should we worry about this.

PC: I'm through, if you are.

LRH: You all right then?

PC: Yeah, thank you very much.

LRH: Okay. Well, do you consider you've hadany benefit from this session?

PC: Yes, I do, very much so.

LRH: You do. Do you think that they had any benefit from it?

PC: I don't even give a darn.

LRH: End of session. End of session.

You'll have to give the man his chair back.

Well, that's it. That's Stop-C-S you just saw. Now, some of you who are new to Scientology might think that there was very little significance in this or that it smacked of drill parades or it smacked of something. But, by golly, there's one thing it doesn't smack of — mental healing. Primarily because it's very effective.

This little gadget — you want to turn off somebody's little somatics or stomach quivers, something like that, why, just tell him, "Become curious about it," and flap your hands at him, and it'll go.

Male voice: Sure will!

Ah, yeah well, I didn't have much to talk to you about this evening so I kind of filled in.

Thank you very much.