HCL-SPEC ELECTROPSYCHOMETRIC SCOUTING: BATTLE OF THE UNIVERSES | HCL-SPEC ELECTROPSYCHOMETRIC SCOUTING: BATTLE OF THE UNIVERSES |
Mary Sue Hubbard audits L. Ron Hubbard. Ron is trying to locate and question entities (BTs) connected to him (see History of Man). | Mary Sue Hubbard audits L. Ron Hubbard. Ron is trying to locate and question entities (BTs) connected to him (see History of Man). |
This tape has been designated confidential and is not in R&D volume 10. The non-confidential lectures in the HCL series are in R&D 9 & 10. They are using an old style Matheson meter. References to "Drop in tone" refer to the tone arm moving downward or what would be called a long fall (LF) or long fall tone arm blowdown (LFBD) in modern terminology. In the session, Ron and Mary Sue are trying out various ideas and seeing if they drop on the meter. | This tape has been designated confidential and is not in R&D volume 10. The non-confidential lectures in the HCL series are in R&D 9 & 10. They are using an old style Matheson meter. References to "Drop in tone" refer to the tone arm moving downward or what would be called a long fall (LF) or long fall tone arm blowdown (LFBD) in modern terminology. In the session, Ron and Mary Sue are trying out various ideas and seeing if they drop on the meter. |
| LRH: Okay! Alright, set the machine. | LRH: Okay! Alright, set the machine. |
This is a psychometric session of scouting the battle of universes. Battling MEST - oh - and certain other universes which we know not much of this moment. We'll know a great deal more. Sue has got me on a machine, we're scouting out an entity which we got trapped here, several of them. | This is a psychometric session of scouting the battle of universes. Battling MEST - oh - and certain other universes which we know not much of this moment. We'll know a great deal more. Sue has got me on a machine, we're scouting out an entity which we got trapped here, several of them. |
Oh, we got them trapped alright. The only possible way they'd have would just be to run. The second they started to run out of the MEST Universe, they'd have to take every entity in this universe with them. That would make them very upset. | Oh, we got them trapped alright. The only possible way they'd have would just be to run. The second they started to run out of the MEST Universe, they'd have to take every entity in this universe with them. That would make them very upset. |
Alright! Now, what have we got so far? | Alright! Now, what have we got so far? |
LRH: Gimmie that Drop - get it dropping. | LRH: Gimmie that Drop - get it dropping. |
MSH: Okay. | MSH: Okay. |
LRH: We got this being hooked up to this machine. Okay! | LRH: We got this being hooked up to this machine. Okay! |
LRH: You say when it drops. | LRH: You say when it drops. |
MSH: It's dropping... | MSH: It's dropping... |
LRH: Okay. Alright! Now ... we're not getting a characteristic swing here, are we? | LRH: Okay. Alright! Now ... we're not getting a characteristic swing here, are we? |
MSH: That's what I was noticing. You see where it swung ... Is some entity in operation there? | MSH: That's what I was noticing. You see where it swung ... Is some entity in operation there? |
LRH: Um-hm. | LRH: Um-hm. |
MSH: Is this the way the meter reacts when an entity is in control ... | MSH: Is this the way the meter reacts when an entity is in control ... |
LRH: No entity in control of this meter. | LRH: No entity in control of this meter. |
MSH: Is this a theta reaction? | MSH: Is this a theta reaction? |
LRH: Yeah, they'd all like to say yes. Yeah, yeah, this is a theta reaction. | LRH: Yeah, they'd all like to say yes. Yeah, yeah, this is a theta reaction. |
MSH: Your needle is dropping. | MSH: Your needle is dropping. |
LRH: Mmh? | LRH: Mmh? |
MSH: I said, the needle is dropping. | MSH: I said, the needle is dropping. |
LRH: Somebody turned out to be a group. | LRH: Somebody turned out to be a group. |
MSH: That's what I know. I've been getting a typical reaction. At least, having been (?) no entity (?) oscillation (?). | MSH: That's what I know. I've been getting a typical reaction. At least, having been (?) no entity (?) oscillation (?). |
LRH: Well then, somebody hooked this thing in. Now we hook it out. Okay, what have you got? | LRH: Well then, somebody hooked this thing in. Now we hook it out. Okay, what have you got? |
MSH: The needle is rising and falling. | MSH: The needle is rising and falling. |
LRH: It's oscillating, isn't it? You know that's just a little bit too cute. The second we get ready to make a tape on this stuff, we've been discovered. Nothing but an oscillation. | LRH: It's oscillating, isn't it? You know that's just a little bit too cute. The second we get ready to make a tape on this stuff, we've been discovered. Nothing but an oscillation. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: I am, for the first time in ages, completely without a somatic. | LRH: I am, for the first time in ages, completely without a somatic. |
[Ed note: the theory here is that somatics come from entities. The implication is that the entities have gone into hiding to avoid being found out in this recorded session and therefore LRH is suddenly free from somatics]. | [Ed note: the theory here is that somatics come from entities. The implication is that the entities have gone into hiding to avoid being found out in this recorded session and therefore LRH is suddenly free from somatics]. |
MSH: Big drop in tone. Can you get the answer now to the question? | MSH: Big drop in tone. Can you get the answer now to the question? |
LRH: This thing is slopping on. But it stopped the characteristic vibrations, didn't it? | LRH: This thing is slopping on. But it stopped the characteristic vibrations, didn't it? |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: I got a notion their all standing about 20 feet from me, at least. | LRH: I got a notion their all standing about 20 feet from me, at least. |
MSH: Undoubtedly. What did you think of? | MSH: Undoubtedly. What did you think of? |
LRH: I though of a sinking ship, but that is not answering this characteristic swing. | LRH: I though of a sinking ship, but that is not answering this characteristic swing. |
MSH: (?) ... an entity just answer the question here. Has the Mest universe creation failed? | MSH: (?) ... an entity just answer the question here. Has the Mest universe creation failed? |
LRH: Yeah | LRH: Yeah |
MSH: mmhm. (?) | MSH: mmhm. (?) |
LRH: We're starting to get tone reaction in spite of everything, here, mmhm. Okay. I guess we got this entity backed off the map now. We got him. He started to turn on a somatic. The second he started to turn on a somatic, he went out of the field. | LRH: We're starting to get tone reaction in spite of everything, here, mmhm. Okay. I guess we got this entity backed off the map now. We got him. He started to turn on a somatic. The second he started to turn on a somatic, he went out of the field. |
Okay! Just ask me the questions and we'll watch the meter. | Okay! Just ask me the questions and we'll watch the meter. |
MSH: Okay. What's the purpose of the entities in the Mest universe? | MSH: Okay. What's the purpose of the entities in the Mest universe? |
LRH: Destroy it. | LRH: Destroy it. |
MSH: Big tone drop. | MSH: Big tone drop. |
LRH: I'll be darned. Big drop? | LRH: I'll be darned. Big drop? |
MSH: Big drop. Yeah. | MSH: Big drop. Yeah. |
LRH: Because the MEST universe is a creation of the theta universe. Bang! | LRH: Because the MEST universe is a creation of the theta universe. Bang! |
MSH: Their basic purpose is to destroy theta? | MSH: Their basic purpose is to destroy theta? |
LRH: Defeat it. | LRH: Defeat it. |
MSH: Defeat it? | MSH: Defeat it? |
LRH: You couldn't destroy it. It's indestructable. | LRH: You couldn't destroy it. It's indestructable. |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: That's much to their sorrow. | LRH: That's much to their sorrow. |
MSH: Mmhm. Whats their chief part of (?) | MSH: Mmhm. Whats their chief part of (?) |
LRH: (?) - Big drop. | LRH: (?) - Big drop. |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: Go on. | LRH: Go on. |
MSH: What's their main purpose in attacking the Mest universe now? | MSH: What's their main purpose in attacking the Mest universe now? |
LRH: Destroy it. | LRH: Destroy it. |
MSH: But I mean - (?) - your own universes? | MSH: But I mean - (?) - your own universes? |
LRH: Yeah | LRH: Yeah |
MSH: What happened to their universes? A drop in tone. | MSH: What happened to their universes? A drop in tone. |
LRH: Drop in tone? | LRH: Drop in tone? |
MSH: Drop. | MSH: Drop. |
LRH: What happened to them? I don't know what happened to them. I can sort of get a vision of the Mest universe spreading and spreading and going across black stratas and it starts across these black stratas and whenever it does that it's wiping out somebody else's universe. The Mest universe is an expanding universe and it's saying to the other universes to such a degree that it's just a heck of a note. And it was started out by theta ... | LRH: What happened to them? I don't know what happened to them. I can sort of get a vision of the Mest universe spreading and spreading and going across black stratas and it starts across these black stratas and whenever it does that it's wiping out somebody else's universe. The Mest universe is an expanding universe and it's saying to the other universes to such a degree that it's just a heck of a note. And it was started out by theta ... |
MSH: Drop there. | MSH: Drop there. |
LRH: But we did just fine. We made what was called a universe. Did it drop? | LRH: But we did just fine. We made what was called a universe. Did it drop? |
MSH: I couldn't see it. | MSH: I couldn't see it. |
LRH: Did it drop? | LRH: Did it drop? |
MSH: A little something. | MSH: A little something. |
LRH: All right. | LRH: All right. |
MSH: Well what are these entities? what are they made out of? | MSH: Well what are these entities? what are they made out of? |
LRH: There is a method of (?). You're not saying drop on it... | LRH: There is a method of (?). You're not saying drop on it... |
MSH: No | MSH: No |
LRH: Okay. Because we want this on the tape. The tape won't see. | LRH: Okay. Because we want this on the tape. The tape won't see. |
LRH: Well here we made this what we've been calling Home Universe. That's actually the MEST Universe, | LRH: Well here we made this what we've been calling Home Universe. That's actually the MEST Universe, |
MSH: Dropping there. | MSH: Dropping there. |
LRH: and was actually the Home Universe and we were just getting along fine and the reason we settled off and just started to make the Home universe and so on and dropped off the main body of theta is because theta started expanding. No more than that. It just started expanding. I think there was probably something wrong in its vicinity or something of the sort. | LRH: and was actually the Home Universe and we were just getting along fine and the reason we settled off and just started to make the Home universe and so on and dropped off the main body of theta is because theta started expanding. No more than that. It just started expanding. I think there was probably something wrong in its vicinity or something of the sort. |
MSH: The needles rising. | MSH: The needles rising. |
LRH: Something wrong in its vicinity. | LRH: Something wrong in its vicinity. |
MSH: Drop there. What was wrong in its vicinity? | MSH: Drop there. What was wrong in its vicinity? |
LRH: It was getting encroached on, so it's sort of a divide and rule. It's the whole modus operendi of the other universes. They started riding up the main body of theta to some degree. No, no drop. Anyway, the theta universe just suddenly got ambitious and decided to make a universe and picked up everything and... | LRH: It was getting encroached on, so it's sort of a divide and rule. It's the whole modus operendi of the other universes. They started riding up the main body of theta to some degree. No, no drop. Anyway, the theta universe just suddenly got ambitious and decided to make a universe and picked up everything and... |
MSH: Your needle dropped. | MSH: Your needle dropped. |
LRH: Yeah, just started making the universe and it made what you've been talking about, we've been talking about as the Home universe, nice aesthetic, very constructive, thought pools and that sort of thing. It started spreading. | LRH: Yeah, just started making the universe and it made what you've been talking about, we've been talking about as the Home universe, nice aesthetic, very constructive, thought pools and that sort of thing. It started spreading. |
MSH: Creation by thought. | MSH: Creation by thought. |
What did you think then? It's now dropping. | What did you think then? It's now dropping. |
LRH: We're getting an oscillation of the needle. | LRH: We're getting an oscillation of the needle. |
MSH: (?) there? | MSH: (?) there? |
LRH: There's something sub-dividing north, this current, I can sort of feel it drawing away. | LRH: There's something sub-dividing north, this current, I can sort of feel it drawing away. |
MSH: Big drop on that. | MSH: Big drop on that. |
LRH: Mmhm. They're really trying to handle this current like mad. But we know much more about the Mest universe. We know all about the Mest universe. It's just these damn things that keep us from knowing about our own universe. | LRH: Mmhm. They're really trying to handle this current like mad. But we know much more about the Mest universe. We know all about the Mest universe. It's just these damn things that keep us from knowing about our own universe. |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: Now here we are, here we are going into a what we call the Theta universe, which is the Mest universe, but all we were doing, we would just throw out some chaos and then straighten it up. That's our modus operendi. | LRH: Now here we are, here we are going into a what we call the Theta universe, which is the Mest universe, but all we were doing, we would just throw out some chaos and then straighten it up. That's our modus operendi. |
MSH: The needle dropped. | MSH: The needle dropped. |
LRH: All right. The modus operendi of throwing out something and building on it. | LRH: All right. The modus operendi of throwing out something and building on it. |
MSH: Bam. All the way down. | MSH: Bam. All the way down. |
LRH: Throwing out something and then building on it, and then throwing out something and then building on it, throwing out something and then building on it. That's the way we proceeded. And all of a sudden our universe that we were building, encroached upon, you know, lent itself as prey to, began to be preyed upon, I guess it actually encroached upon and moved into, or expanded into... | LRH: Throwing out something and then building on it, and then throwing out something and then building on it, throwing out something and then building on it. That's the way we proceeded. And all of a sudden our universe that we were building, encroached upon, you know, lent itself as prey to, began to be preyed upon, I guess it actually encroached upon and moved into, or expanded into... |
MSH: When did it begin attacking? | MSH: When did it begin attacking? |
LRH Maybe it just started attacking these other universes. Wham (laugh) | LRH Maybe it just started attacking these other universes. Wham (laugh) |
MSH: Wham! | MSH: Wham! |
LRH: All right. It started attacking these other universes and tried to mold them in line. Did it drop? | LRH: All right. It started attacking these other universes and tried to mold them in line. Did it drop? |
MSH: It dropped. Your needle dropped on that. | MSH: It dropped. Your needle dropped on that. |
LRH: And it started attacking like mad, and started going into these other universes, started moving in on them... | LRH: And it started attacking like mad, and started going into these other universes, started moving in on them... |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: because that was all the raw material there was. Ha, ha, ha... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... That was all the raw material there was. Okay! Just started using them as raw material. That's not quite it, just started using them and incorporating them into the MEST universe. Did something to 'em. | LRH: because that was all the raw material there was. Ha, ha, ha... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... That was all the raw material there was. Okay! Just started using them as raw material. That's not quite it, just started using them and incorporating them into the MEST universe. Did something to 'em. |
MSH: Did they find a useful purpose for them in the MEST universe? | MSH: Did they find a useful purpose for them in the MEST universe? |
LRH: Tried to. That's clear as crystal to them. They try to use everything. | LRH: Tried to. That's clear as crystal to them. They try to use everything. |
MSH: Is that where it made it's big mistake? | MSH: Is that where it made it's big mistake? |
LRH: They didn't make any mistake. | LRH: They didn't make any mistake. |
MSH: Well had they put them... | MSH: Well had they put them... |
LRH: Thetans win. Bang! | LRH: Thetans win. Bang! |
MSH: Bang! (laughing) | MSH: Bang! (laughing) |
LRH: But theta had to learn all of these laws and rules. But it really didn't have to learn laws and rules at all, because it made the laws and rules. | LRH: But theta had to learn all of these laws and rules. But it really didn't have to learn laws and rules at all, because it made the laws and rules. |
MSH: What happened to Theta that they started (garbled)? | MSH: What happened to Theta that they started (garbled)? |
LRH: One day, all of a sudden these other universes started throwing in shock troops. They actually did. They started throwing in troops. | LRH: One day, all of a sudden these other universes started throwing in shock troops. They actually did. They started throwing in troops. |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: Entities. | LRH: Entities. |
MSH: Another one. | MSH: Another one. |
LRH: And they started throwing in entities and these entities kept enforcing time upon theta but theta started enforcing time on them. No drop. | LRH: And they started throwing in entities and these entities kept enforcing time upon theta but theta started enforcing time on them. No drop. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: Ah ... So, the time was enforced. They just ... they did it without time and these other universes started adding time into it, for time is an invention of theta. | LRH: Ah ... So, the time was enforced. They just ... they did it without time and these other universes started adding time into it, for time is an invention of theta. |
MSH: No drop.. | MSH: No drop.. |
LRH: Well, I guess I'd be talking from the theta side right now. They don't know where time came from. These entities don't know where time came from either. Crash! | LRH: Well, I guess I'd be talking from the theta side right now. They don't know where time came from. These entities don't know where time came from either. Crash! |
MSH: Poor drop. Who created time? | MSH: Poor drop. Who created time? |
LRH: Big drop. | LRH: Big drop. |
LRH: They created time. Everything was beautifully simultaneous 'til they came along. | LRH: They created time. Everything was beautifully simultaneous 'til they came along. |
MSH: They made everything grow old? | MSH: They made everything grow old? |
LRH: Time made everything grow old. They tried to make everything antique and deteriorated. No? | LRH: Time made everything grow old. They tried to make everything antique and deteriorated. No? |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: They tried to use the universe themselves. Nope. They tried to destroy and roll up the theta universe. They used the MEST universe. The theta universe actually made the Mest universe and it became modified by the other universes. | LRH: They tried to use the universe themselves. Nope. They tried to destroy and roll up the theta universe. They used the MEST universe. The theta universe actually made the Mest universe and it became modified by the other universes. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: Oh, and then the Mest universe ...we got a drop on this.. is just a straught creation of theta. Crash! The Mest universe is just a straight creation of theta and it's working busily with the Mest universe and is putting it together and hanging up stars and space and time. I guess space was already there. Nope - time was already there. Nope. Well they hung up space and time and this was very antipathtic for these other entities so they're going to misuse warp time. Misuse it. They made Theta misuse its time. Anything which you figure Theta is doing would be anything that you consider constructive, anything, building, expanding, creative, aesthetics. Well maybe ... according to that, - there's no needle drop there? | LRH: Oh, and then the Mest universe ...we got a drop on this.. is just a straught creation of theta. Crash! The Mest universe is just a straight creation of theta and it's working busily with the Mest universe and is putting it together and hanging up stars and space and time. I guess space was already there. Nope - time was already there. Nope. Well they hung up space and time and this was very antipathtic for these other entities so they're going to misuse warp time. Misuse it. They made Theta misuse its time. Anything which you figure Theta is doing would be anything that you consider constructive, anything, building, expanding, creative, aesthetics. Well maybe ... according to that, - there's no needle drop there? |
MSH: No. | MSH: No. |
LRH: Just according to aesthetics. Aesthetics alone, Theta is interested in aesthetics alone and other entities came in and made it hard for Theta entities to survive in its own universe. - Little drop? | LRH: Just according to aesthetics. Aesthetics alone, Theta is interested in aesthetics alone and other entities came in and made it hard for Theta entities to survive in its own universe. - Little drop? |
MSH: Small drop, yes. | MSH: Small drop, yes. |
LRH: Theta is trying to survive in its own universe. | LRH: Theta is trying to survive in its own universe. |
MSH: Crash! | MSH: Crash! |
LRH: Crash, and it's under very heavy attack. Maybe the attack isn't as heavy as we like to think. | LRH: Crash, and it's under very heavy attack. Maybe the attack isn't as heavy as we like to think. |
MSH: Did the entities want to make us think it was pretty heavy? | MSH: Did the entities want to make us think it was pretty heavy? |
LRH: No, they want us to think it's very light. They don't want us to think there's any attack at all. They don't want us to believe there is any attack. | LRH: No, they want us to think it's very light. They don't want us to think there's any attack at all. They don't want us to believe there is any attack. |
MSH: - (?) - to attack the Mest universe? | MSH: - (?) - to attack the Mest universe? |
LRH: They gotta make Theta believe the Mest universe isn't worthwhile. | LRH: They gotta make Theta believe the Mest universe isn't worthwhile. |
MSH: Big needle drop. | MSH: Big needle drop. |
LRH: Apparently Theta believed that this universe isn't worthwhile, it isn't worth doing, and let it all go on and do something else. There's no purpose in it or anything else. Well, the purpose is to build a universe. Crash! | LRH: Apparently Theta believed that this universe isn't worthwhile, it isn't worth doing, and let it all go on and do something else. There's no purpose in it or anything else. Well, the purpose is to build a universe. Crash! |
MSH: mmhm. | MSH: mmhm. |
LRH: Well, the purpose is to build a universe and that's Theta's purpose and that's why we're doing what we're doing. And the only why is not, ... | LRH: Well, the purpose is to build a universe and that's Theta's purpose and that's why we're doing what we're doing. And the only why is not, ... |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: ... why are we surviving, why are we here, why this, why that. These people aren't building a universe and aren't interested in building any universe at all. They're entheta people. They are very much in control of entheta, and there might be such a thing as an entire entheta being. Bang! Small drop? | LRH: ... why are we surviving, why are we here, why this, why that. These people aren't building a universe and aren't interested in building any universe at all. They're entheta people. They are very much in control of entheta, and there might be such a thing as an entire entheta being. Bang! Small drop? |
MSH: Just a small drop. | MSH: Just a small drop. |
LRH: Well my entities wouldn't know too much about this except maybe people like Sara, but these things don't quite respond on thought, emotion, and effort. They're indestructable. | LRH: Well my entities wouldn't know too much about this except maybe people like Sara, but these things don't quite respond on thought, emotion, and effort. They're indestructable. |
MSH: Drop on that. | MSH: Drop on that. |
LRH: They don't change in tone. Their tone is below 2.0, Nope. They don't change in tone. They don't fit on the tone scale too well. They don't fit the band. What we've got is enturbulative theta. There is theta effected by these things will vary on the tone scale. Drop. | LRH: They don't change in tone. Their tone is below 2.0, Nope. They don't change in tone. They don't fit on the tone scale too well. They don't fit the band. What we've got is enturbulative theta. There is theta effected by these things will vary on the tone scale. Drop. |
MSH: A small drop. | MSH: A small drop. |
LRH: And one after the other you get effective theta so that you're actually observing theta which has been dragged down more and more and more. And it isn't the Mest universe entering into Theta - Yes, it is - Oh, I see, what they're doing is bunching up - big drop. | LRH: And one after the other you get effective theta so that you're actually observing theta which has been dragged down more and more and more. And it isn't the Mest universe entering into Theta - Yes, it is - Oh, I see, what they're doing is bunching up - big drop. |
MSH: mmhm | MSH: mmhm |
LRH: What they're doing is bunching up. Theta and the Mest universe is trying to keep Theta from telling the difference between ... put it off the pin! ... they're trying to keep Theta from telling the difference between itself and Mest. | LRH: What they're doing is bunching up. Theta and the Mest universe is trying to keep Theta from telling the difference between ... put it off the pin! ... they're trying to keep Theta from telling the difference between itself and Mest. |
MSH: Chiefly in the living being. | MSH: Chiefly in the living being. |
LRH: In the living being. They're trying to convince it that it isn't motivated. | LRH: In the living being. They're trying to convince it that it isn't motivated. |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: Mmmhm. | LRH: Mmmhm. |
MSH: There's several of them in succession. | MSH: There's several of them in succession. |
LRH: Seven. | LRH: Seven. |
MSH: Seven. | MSH: Seven. |
LRH: They've been at it from time to time. There's six, there's six entities or seven entities. There could be eighty entities, there could be hundreds of entities, there could only be one entity. I don't think there's any standard number because they come and go. | LRH: They've been at it from time to time. There's six, there's six entities or seven entities. There could be eighty entities, there could be hundreds of entities, there could only be one entity. I don't think there's any standard number because they come and go. |
The drop is, they're not answering. We know how many there are already. We've already scouted it - crash. | The drop is, they're not answering. We know how many there are already. We've already scouted it - crash. |
MSH: Crash - huhuh. | MSH: Crash - huhuh. |
LRH: Standard number of maybe three in the stomach, one of those is a theta being. One of the stomach beings is more or less theta. There's a certain amount of theta in each one of the cells. Flick? | LRH: Standard number of maybe three in the stomach, one of those is a theta being. One of the stomach beings is more or less theta. There's a certain amount of theta in each one of the cells. Flick? |
MSH: Yeah. | MSH: Yeah. |
LRH: There's a certain amount of theta in the main body, in the body itself. When you have theta trying to escape from the body, doing this sort of thing, it's actually an entheta being. That's the ambition of the entheta being, not the ambition of theta. Theta can walk in and out of its body but entheta beings are so damned fast at taking over a body that the theta has got to be very watchful about the whole thing so it doesn't leave its body. But the entheta being is trying to convince theta that it has to take care of its body. We're not getting very many drops on this sequence. | LRH: There's a certain amount of theta in the main body, in the body itself. When you have theta trying to escape from the body, doing this sort of thing, it's actually an entheta being. That's the ambition of the entheta being, not the ambition of theta. Theta can walk in and out of its body but entheta beings are so damned fast at taking over a body that the theta has got to be very watchful about the whole thing so it doesn't leave its body. But the entheta being is trying to convince theta that it has to take care of its body. We're not getting very many drops on this sequence. |
MSH: No | MSH: No |
LRH: - (?) - There's something wrong there. There's something about theta. Theta could get out of the body, as a matter of fact, theta doesn't need a body. | LRH: - (?) - There's something wrong there. There's something about theta. Theta could get out of the body, as a matter of fact, theta doesn't need a body. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: Theta needs a body? Theta's got to have a body? Well, bodies have got to take up this thing. Maybe bodies is an entity creation ... Ohhh... | LRH: Theta needs a body? Theta's got to have a body? Well, bodies have got to take up this thing. Maybe bodies is an entity creation ... Ohhh... |
MSH: You're dropping tone. | MSH: You're dropping tone. |
LRH: Ohhh ... Boy! | LRH: Ohhh ... Boy! |
MSH: You're dropping. | MSH: You're dropping. |
LRH: And as a matter of fact, it might be a big drop in tone. In other words, the body is created by entheta beings and theta is occupying it. Yet these entheta beings have forced pieces of theta into these bodies because they won't motivate otherwise. | LRH: And as a matter of fact, it might be a big drop in tone. In other words, the body is created by entheta beings and theta is occupying it. Yet these entheta beings have forced pieces of theta into these bodies because they won't motivate otherwise. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: Well, they think they're winning on that basis but I think there's a deeper significance in what theta is doing. Look what theta is doing right now. We got to untangle that point. What is that point now? | LRH: Well, they think they're winning on that basis but I think there's a deeper significance in what theta is doing. Look what theta is doing right now. We got to untangle that point. What is that point now? |
MSH: About the body. | MSH: About the body. |
LRH: Bodies are by entheta beings. | LRH: Bodies are by entheta beings. |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: Maybe the entheta being would really like you to believe the body is vital. There's a secret about bodies. You got a big drop on entheta beings creating the body ... Oh, I get it! They didn't create the body, they usurped the body. They made the body necessary. Some way an entheta being made the body necessary to theta. We've picked up theta beings trapped in bodies. | LRH: Maybe the entheta being would really like you to believe the body is vital. There's a secret about bodies. You got a big drop on entheta beings creating the body ... Oh, I get it! They didn't create the body, they usurped the body. They made the body necessary. Some way an entheta being made the body necessary to theta. We've picked up theta beings trapped in bodies. |
MSH: Mmhm... which is just a confusion between theta and the body, caused by an entity. The needle dropped there. | MSH: Mmhm... which is just a confusion between theta and the body, caused by an entity. The needle dropped there. |
LRH: Well, the confusion between entheta beings and the body. Entheta beings love bodies though, because bodies originally meant theta. | LRH: Well, the confusion between entheta beings and the body. Entheta beings love bodies though, because bodies originally meant theta. |
MSH: Well, they've caused the confusion between the body and theta. | MSH: Well, they've caused the confusion between the body and theta. |
LRH: Well, the body and the theta - there is a vast difference between a theta being and a body. A body and a theta being. | LRH: Well, the body and the theta - there is a vast difference between a theta being and a body. A body and a theta being. |
MSH: Small drop there. | MSH: Small drop there. |
LRH: There's a difference between the two of them, very definitely, and they've made theta believe that the body is theta. | LRH: There's a difference between the two of them, very definitely, and they've made theta believe that the body is theta. |
MSH: Well, what are these entities composed of? | MSH: Well, what are these entities composed of? |
LRH: What..? | LRH: What..? |
MSH: Well, what would you call this kind of stuff? | MSH: Well, what would you call this kind of stuff? |
LRH: Well, it may be first universe stuff - and stuff ... | LRH: Well, it may be first universe stuff - and stuff ... |
MSH: yeah. | MSH: yeah. |
LRH: ... maybe twenty-ninth universe stuff - fifteenth universe stuff - twenty-first universe stuff - thirty-three universe ... is there a thirty-three universe? | LRH: ... maybe twenty-ninth universe stuff - fifteenth universe stuff - twenty-first universe stuff - thirty-three universe ... is there a thirty-three universe? |
MSH: No Drop. | MSH: No Drop. |
LRH: No ... | LRH: No ... |
MSH: They come from a lot of different universes. | MSH: They come from a lot of different universes. |
LRH: Oh sure - theta has taken over a heck of a lot of petty principalities and organized them. These universes have different times and different spaces and different this ... They can get into them through the MEST universe. They can get into the Mest universe. There is a door. A hole in space by which they can get in to the theta universe. | LRH: Oh sure - theta has taken over a heck of a lot of petty principalities and organized them. These universes have different times and different spaces and different this ... They can get into them through the MEST universe. They can get into the Mest universe. There is a door. A hole in space by which they can get in to the theta universe. |
MSH: No drop on that. | MSH: No drop on that. |
LRH: No drop. - Well, theta trapped them. We got a drop - (Line charge) | LRH: No drop. - Well, theta trapped them. We got a drop - (Line charge) |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: Well, good for me. We will find out about this.. What is theta up to here? | LRH: Well, good for me. We will find out about this.. What is theta up to here? |
All right! Theta trapped them. Maybe theta used them as bodies. Bang! | All right! Theta trapped them. Maybe theta used them as bodies. Bang! |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: Maybe theta puts it in the body to do something with the body. | LRH: Maybe theta puts it in the body to do something with the body. |
MSH: You got a drop on that. What was the ... | MSH: You got a drop on that. What was the ... |
LRH: They were supposed to walk around as a body - maybe they're just sort of slaves. Maybe they were under a terrific compulse to have bodies. | LRH: They were supposed to walk around as a body - maybe they're just sort of slaves. Maybe they were under a terrific compulse to have bodies. |
MSH: Did they hold the body together? | MSH: Did they hold the body together? |
LRH: They're slaves. | LRH: They're slaves. |
MSH: Did they take the power away from theta? | MSH: Did they take the power away from theta? |
| LRH: They were trying to. Theta reached out to pick them up. Now they're trying to enturbulate this by saying the theta and the entheta is the same theta | LRH: They were trying to. Theta reached out to pick them up. Now they're trying to enturbulate this by saying the theta and the entheta is the same theta |
MSH: Did theta first of all give a lot of duties to these entities and then gradually started taking control? | MSH: Did theta first of all give a lot of duties to these entities and then gradually started taking control? |
LRH: I think that's very possible. I think it's very possible they do their job too well. | LRH: I think that's very possible. I think it's very possible they do their job too well. |
They're maybe under compulsion by theta. | They're maybe under compulsion by theta. |
MSH: You got a drop on that. | MSH: You got a drop on that. |
LRH: Each one was given his duties and theta put them into bodies, one way or the other. But what theta has to realize, and theta really has to realize this, there's too much, too much. You put these things together in a body - so, you get a body - then, this body had better be under control of the theta being. I think theta beings are waking up on schedule. | LRH: Each one was given his duties and theta put them into bodies, one way or the other. But what theta has to realize, and theta really has to realize this, there's too much, too much. You put these things together in a body - so, you get a body - then, this body had better be under control of the theta being. I think theta beings are waking up on schedule. |
MSH: Your needle keeps dropping. | MSH: Your needle keeps dropping. |
LRH: It's entities that you can shift around from one person to another. | LRH: It's entities that you can shift around from one person to another. |
MSH: Small drop on that. | MSH: Small drop on that. |
LRH: It's energies you that can shoot from being to somebody else. (MSH starting to say something and LRH interrupts) Theta beings supposed to be hypnotized and they go to sleep. | LRH: It's energies you that can shoot from being to somebody else. (MSH starting to say something and LRH interrupts) Theta beings supposed to be hypnotized and they go to sleep. |
MSH: You got a drop on that. | MSH: You got a drop on that. |
LRH: Theta beings can't be hypnotized. Enteties can be hyprnotized. - we got one drop there. | LRH: Theta beings can't be hypnotized. Enteties can be hyprnotized. - we got one drop there. |
MSH: yes. | MSH: yes. |
LRH: Theta beings could be hypnotized? These entheta beings that we're questioning just don't know. | LRH: Theta beings could be hypnotized? These entheta beings that we're questioning just don't know. |
MSH: You got a tiny flick. | MSH: You got a tiny flick. |
LRH: They hope. | LRH: They hope. |
MSH: You got a tiny drop. | MSH: You got a tiny drop. |
LRH: I didn't know know there was a drop. | LRH: I didn't know know there was a drop. |
MSH: It was reading. | MSH: It was reading. |
LRH: What was it? What was the question? | LRH: What was it? What was the question? |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: I told you ... its on the tape. Well, entheta beings could certainly be hypnotized. Maybe they can't be hypnotized. What is the big confusion going on? | LRH: I told you ... its on the tape. Well, entheta beings could certainly be hypnotized. Maybe they can't be hypnotized. What is the big confusion going on? |
MSH: Do they try to make theta think that its been hypnotized? | MSH: Do they try to make theta think that its been hypnotized? |
LRH: They could. Maybe theta makes theta think its been hypnotized so they keep on working. Maybe theta keeps itself from knowing what its doing. | LRH: They could. Maybe theta makes theta think its been hypnotized so they keep on working. Maybe theta keeps itself from knowing what its doing. |
MSH: You got a drop on that. | MSH: You got a drop on that. |
LRH: 'Cause if it didn't keep itself from knowing what it was doing, it'd get all upset with these entities. Once you got a drop on there. (?) a terrific impulse to handle these entities - manhandle them and so forth. | LRH: 'Cause if it didn't keep itself from knowing what it was doing, it'd get all upset with these entities. Once you got a drop on there. (?) a terrific impulse to handle these entities - manhandle them and so forth. |
MSH: Well why doesn't theta just get rid of them now and take them out? | MSH: Well why doesn't theta just get rid of them now and take them out? |
LRH: (?) | LRH: (?) |
MSH: What do we have to do - rehabilitate all these entities in the body? | MSH: What do we have to do - rehabilitate all these entities in the body? |
LRH: Nah. Nickel a billion. They have no value. Oh, you mean why doesn't the theta being kick 'em out of the body? | LRH: Nah. Nickel a billion. They have no value. Oh, you mean why doesn't the theta being kick 'em out of the body? |
MSH: Yeah, mhmm. | MSH: Yeah, mhmm. |
LRH: I don't know, we'll have to find out if these are his servants. - Is that it? | LRH: I don't know, we'll have to find out if these are his servants. - Is that it? |
MSH: No you didn't get a reaction. Are they theta food and do breathing and have any great value to it? | MSH: No you didn't get a reaction. Are they theta food and do breathing and have any great value to it? |
LRH: I don't think in recent times... | LRH: I don't think in recent times... |
MSH: You got a drop. | MSH: You got a drop. |
LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have pretty well won out over the people that are here. | LRH: The entheta beings ... I think in recent times entheta beings have been triumphing in certain locales over theta and I think earth is a prison planet to some degree because the entheta beings have pretty well won out over the people that are here. |
MSH: You got a big drop on that. | MSH: You got a big drop on that. |
LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here and what I got a big drop on is just the .... Well, now we can do a rehabilitation job throughout this part of the universe and we can do a rehabilitation job on straightening out these entheta beings and theta. Because all the entheta beings are running around - they're here, out of line. They may be the product of a union. The entheta beings -?- or something of the sort. They didn't do what they were told. | LRH: I did? Entheta beings have worn out all the people who are here and what I got a big drop on is just the .... Well, now we can do a rehabilitation job throughout this part of the universe and we can do a rehabilitation job on straightening out these entheta beings and theta. Because all the entheta beings are running around - they're here, out of line. They may be the product of a union. The entheta beings -?- or something of the sort. They didn't do what they were told. |
MSH: You got a drop there. | MSH: You got a drop there. |
LRH: It's all wild stuff - psychotic. Entheta beings are in charge of bodies. Entheta beings that would get into charge of bodies. | LRH: It's all wild stuff - psychotic. Entheta beings are in charge of bodies. Entheta beings that would get into charge of bodies. |
MSH: You got a tiny drop | MSH: You got a tiny drop |
LRH: Entheta beings will take over bodies and wouldn't obey theta. This is the story of King Solomon and the Genii. An entheta being has got to be able to say I hear and obey - snap and pop and click his heels and go on his way. But the entheta beings that we have down here on earth, wouldn't. We talk about King ... | LRH: Entheta beings will take over bodies and wouldn't obey theta. This is the story of King Solomon and the Genii. An entheta being has got to be able to say I hear and obey - snap and pop and click his heels and go on his way. But the entheta beings that we have down here on earth, wouldn't. We talk about King ... |
MSH: Drop in tone. You're needle's dropping. | MSH: Drop in tone. You're needle's dropping. |
LRH: Well we talk about King Solomon's ...big drop here... we talk about King Solomon's conquest of the Genii. And how he sent them all off to certain parts of the desert. They all revolted and he beat them all up and threw them off into a certain corner of the world and there they went and they finally had to surrender. Now you can go out and pick up jars and all sorts of things now, and in the Arabian Sea and so forth and look them over and you'll find out they've got entheta beings in them. Their demons, Genii, Jinns, (?), (?). | LRH: Well we talk about King Solomon's ...big drop here... we talk about King Solomon's conquest of the Genii. And how he sent them all off to certain parts of the desert. They all revolted and he beat them all up and threw them off into a certain corner of the world and there they went and they finally had to surrender. Now you can go out and pick up jars and all sorts of things now, and in the Arabian Sea and so forth and look them over and you'll find out they've got entheta beings in them. Their demons, Genii, Jinns, (?), (?). |
MSH: Big drop when you were telling me -(?)-. | MSH: Big drop when you were telling me -(?)-. |
LRH: Well that's what theta did. Now, theta sitting right out in space some place, other planets, and so forth, all of a sudden says, the hell with these bodies and beings, we've got a heck of a lot of theta beings ... | LRH: Well that's what theta did. Now, theta sitting right out in space some place, other planets, and so forth, all of a sudden says, the hell with these bodies and beings, we've got a heck of a lot of theta beings ... |
MSH: Bang! Needle is dropping. | MSH: Bang! Needle is dropping. |
LRH: ... who have been beaten by entheta beings. | LRH: ... who have been beaten by entheta beings. |
MSH: Bang! | MSH: Bang! |
LRH: And the battleground is too rough and these things have mutinied so let's put 'em all in one place and lock 'em on to earth. They gotta stay on earth til we get 'em straightened out. They'll send somebody down here sooner or later and he'll straighten them out. | LRH: And the battleground is too rough and these things have mutinied so let's put 'em all in one place and lock 'em on to earth. They gotta stay on earth til we get 'em straightened out. They'll send somebody down here sooner or later and he'll straighten them out. |
MSH: You're getting drops in needle on all this material. | MSH: You're getting drops in needle on all this material. |
LRH: They'll send somebody down here some day and he'll straighten 'em all out and that will be the end of that. All the entheta beings will wind up in good shape. But that's the whole and complete project. It's not necessary .. Oh, it's partly the rehabilitation of the theta beings that have suffered and partly the problem, how do you control an entheta being that's gone out of control. I think theta must have known this for a long while ... Crash! Theta has known this for a long while. All these theta that's down here on earth don't know this. | LRH: They'll send somebody down here some day and he'll straighten 'em all out and that will be the end of that. All the entheta beings will wind up in good shape. But that's the whole and complete project. It's not necessary .. Oh, it's partly the rehabilitation of the theta beings that have suffered and partly the problem, how do you control an entheta being that's gone out of control. I think theta must have known this for a long while ... Crash! Theta has known this for a long while. All these theta that's down here on earth don't know this. |
MSH: Big, big drop. | MSH: Big, big drop. |
LRH: One of the reasons why the people down here on earth don't know is so the entheta beings won't find out and look further, so people here on earth are not supposed to know. | LRH: One of the reasons why the people down here on earth don't know is so the entheta beings won't find out and look further, so people here on earth are not supposed to know. |
The theta beings - the destroyed theta beings, the bummed up theta beings that are down here on earth right now, ... | The theta beings - the destroyed theta beings, the bummed up theta beings that are down here on earth right now, ... |
MSH: Bang! | MSH: Bang! |
LRH: ...have promised not to know. | LRH: ...have promised not to know. |
MSH: big drop again on that. | MSH: big drop again on that. |
LRH: They promised not to know. | LRH: They promised not to know. |
MSH: When you started to say, "they promised not to know" the needle goes all the way to the end of the dial. | MSH: When you started to say, "they promised not to know" the needle goes all the way to the end of the dial. |
LRH: They're escorts - they're prisoner chasing actually. But actually, they were guys that were completely loused up by entheta beings. They were theta beings that were all loused up... drop... all loused up by entheta beings. And the entheta beings are pretty well confident. They were subsidian degraded theta beings that have been walked over the top of, you know. No. They were asleep. | LRH: They're escorts - they're prisoner chasing actually. But actually, they were guys that were completely loused up by entheta beings. They were theta beings that were all loused up... drop... all loused up by entheta beings. And the entheta beings are pretty well confident. They were subsidian degraded theta beings that have been walked over the top of, you know. No. They were asleep. |
MSH: No. | MSH: No. |
LRH: Any one of these combos, an entheta being and his six servants. Drop? Was that a drop? | LRH: Any one of these combos, an entheta being and his six servants. Drop? Was that a drop? |
MSH: That was a drop, yeah. | MSH: That was a drop, yeah. |
LRH: An entheta being and his six servants - yeah - a theta being asleep, asleep theta being and six servants. | LRH: An entheta being and his six servants - yeah - a theta being asleep, asleep theta being and six servants. |
MSH: There was a drop. | MSH: There was a drop. |
LRH: I thought maybe there were more than six. | LRH: I thought maybe there were more than six. |
MSH: Doesn't agree with it. | MSH: Doesn't agree with it. |
LRH: The theta being is served by six entheta beings. | LRH: The theta being is served by six entheta beings. |
MSH: You have a drop. | MSH: You have a drop. |
LRH: We picked them up here and there. The entheta beings here and there have gotten something on the theta being so they can blackmail him - they can pull in somatics on him - they can do all sorts of tricks - gettin no drop. | LRH: We picked them up here and there. The entheta beings here and there have gotten something on the theta being so they can blackmail him - they can pull in somatics on him - they can do all sorts of tricks - gettin no drop. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: The theta beings have gone to sleep... | LRH: The theta beings have gone to sleep... |
MSH: You got a drop. | MSH: You got a drop. |
LRH: ... so they can no longer control the entheta beings. | LRH: ... so they can no longer control the entheta beings. |
MSH: Crash! | MSH: Crash! |
LRH: That's why this is a prison planet and that's whats wrong with people on it. The problem is then, is how to wake up these theta beings. How to wake up these theta beings and put under control all these entheta beings. | LRH: That's why this is a prison planet and that's whats wrong with people on it. The problem is then, is how to wake up these theta beings. How to wake up these theta beings and put under control all these entheta beings. |
MSH: Crash. | MSH: Crash. |
LRH: Mars has been shipping things in here. Mars is actually a theta operation. | LRH: Mars has been shipping things in here. Mars is actually a theta operation. |
MSH: A little drop. | MSH: A little drop. |
LRH: -(?)- theta operation. | LRH: -(?)- theta operation. |
MSH: slight. | MSH: slight. |
LRH: The beings on Venus are not ... they're entheta beings and theta beings. A theta being with six servants - these things run errands, messages, bringing things and they're trained. - No drop. They hold together bodies. Drop. | LRH: The beings on Venus are not ... they're entheta beings and theta beings. A theta being with six servants - these things run errands, messages, bringing things and they're trained. - No drop. They hold together bodies. Drop. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: They hold together bodies. They hold together mest - -(?)- An entheta being can hold together a mountain like we use a safety pin. | LRH: They hold together bodies. They hold together mest - -(?)- An entheta being can hold together a mountain like we use a safety pin. |
MSH: (Laugh) no-o-o. | MSH: (Laugh) no-o-o. |
LRH: No drop? | LRH: No drop? |
MSH: No drop there. | MSH: No drop there. |
LRH: They hold bodies together. They take care of procreation. Entheta beings get very easily aberrated on the second dynamic. | LRH: They hold bodies together. They take care of procreation. Entheta beings get very easily aberrated on the second dynamic. |
MSH: The needle suddenly is very still. Then started rising. They don't like this to be known. | MSH: The needle suddenly is very still. Then started rising. They don't like this to be known. |
LRH: No, they're very second dynamicky and when an entheta being gets looped up on the second dynamic and had something on the theta being on the second dynamic, that theta being would leave and be sent to earth. | LRH: No, they're very second dynamicky and when an entheta being gets looped up on the second dynamic and had something on the theta being on the second dynamic, that theta being would leave and be sent to earth. |
MSH: Bang! | MSH: Bang! |
LRH: Purity - When a theta being , purity - on the second dynamic had been contaminated, he came under the control of entheta being. | LRH: Purity - When a theta being , purity - on the second dynamic had been contaminated, he came under the control of entheta being. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: He came under control of his own entheta being. His own entheta beings pass up on him and blackmail - no drop. Anyway, become contaminated, the entheta being would become loused up on the second dynamic. | LRH: He came under control of his own entheta being. His own entheta beings pass up on him and blackmail - no drop. Anyway, become contaminated, the entheta being would become loused up on the second dynamic. |
MSH: Big drop. Did the theta being punish its own self by coming down here? | MSH: Big drop. Did the theta being punish its own self by coming down here? |
LRH: I guess so. They surrendered to it. They just agree to it. They wouldn't be asked to agree to it because they wouldn't be in communication with this other theta being. | LRH: I guess so. They surrendered to it. They just agree to it. They wouldn't be asked to agree to it because they wouldn't be in communication with this other theta being. |
MSH: Yeah that's a drop. Did it take itself out of communication with the other theta beings? | MSH: Yeah that's a drop. Did it take itself out of communication with the other theta beings? |
LRH: It dropped out of communication with 'em. It wouldn't take itself out. | LRH: It dropped out of communication with 'em. It wouldn't take itself out. |
| MSH: | MSH: |
| LRH: Drop in communication entheta. | LRH: Drop in communication entheta. |
MSH: Drop there. How giving about some characteristics of an entheta being. | MSH: Drop there. How giving about some characteristics of an entheta being. |
LRH: There's a standard set of them in the body ... no drop .. Everybody has its own set - maybe these things are just .. Maybe they get orders from other bodies and they think these are orders from theta beings .. Crash - little drop? | LRH: There's a standard set of them in the body ... no drop .. Everybody has its own set - maybe these things are just .. Maybe they get orders from other bodies and they think these are orders from theta beings .. Crash - little drop? |
MSH: yes. MMHM. | MSH: yes. MMHM. |
LRH: They think these are orders from theta beings and so they obey. Where you got a mother for instance ... this is the dwindling spiral - they were trying to get out of the society in the theta universe, off earth. | LRH: They think these are orders from theta beings and so they obey. Where you got a mother for instance ... this is the dwindling spiral - they were trying to get out of the society in the theta universe, off earth. |
MSH: You got a small drop. | MSH: You got a small drop. |
LRH: And you have mothers and they start going on this entheta line. As far as bodies, they become terrifically unbalanced as far as this entheta control is concerned - entheta control. The body gets unbalanced ... | LRH: And you have mothers and they start going on this entheta line. As far as bodies, they become terrifically unbalanced as far as this entheta control is concerned - entheta control. The body gets unbalanced ... |
MSH: You got a smalldrop. | MSH: You got a smalldrop. |
LRH: All of a sudden an entheta being gets in there. It's people who louse people up that are down here. Crash! | LRH: All of a sudden an entheta being gets in there. It's people who louse people up that are down here. Crash! |
MSH: mhmm. Crash. | MSH: mhmm. Crash. |
LRH: It's people who louse people up - all people who are here. In fact there's no theta beings - there's been three or four attempted rescues down here. Each time it goes all haywire. They get to the religion. These entheta beings are controlled over by religion. I think there was an experiment one time that was a religious experiment. | LRH: It's people who louse people up - all people who are here. In fact there's no theta beings - there's been three or four attempted rescues down here. Each time it goes all haywire. They get to the religion. These entheta beings are controlled over by religion. I think there was an experiment one time that was a religious experiment. |
MSH: You dropped. Needle's dropping | MSH: You dropped. Needle's dropping |
LRH: Big experiment on religion. | LRH: Big experiment on religion. |
MSH: Is that when Christianity came into being? | MSH: Is that when Christianity came into being? |
LRH: That's an entheta operation. No drop? | LRH: That's an entheta operation. No drop? |
MSH: Slight. | MSH: Slight. |
LRH: It's got to be an entheta operation. | LRH: It's got to be an entheta operation. |
MSH: Is it? | MSH: Is it? |
LRH: Entheta - The entheta is actually, like anything that is under duress, these entheta beings - we shouldn't be calling them entheta beings - we ought to be calling them Targs... That's the proper name. | LRH: Entheta - The entheta is actually, like anything that is under duress, these entheta beings - we shouldn't be calling them entheta beings - we ought to be calling them Targs... That's the proper name. |
MSH: Crash! | MSH: Crash! |
LRH: Targs - Some of them are Targs. There are several other kinds. There are other kinds than Targs. | LRH: Targs - Some of them are Targs. There are several other kinds. There are other kinds than Targs. |
MSH: Where did you get the name - Targ? | MSH: Where did you get the name - Targ? |
LRH: That's common in a lot of theta languages. It means slave. Entheta slave. | LRH: That's common in a lot of theta languages. It means slave. Entheta slave. |
MSH: You got a drop | MSH: You got a drop |
LRH: Lower order slave. Body holders- horse holders - boot polishers. Entheta is really (?) | LRH: Lower order slave. Body holders- horse holders - boot polishers. Entheta is really (?) |
I guess there may be some other prison planets out in this galaxy. | I guess there may be some other prison planets out in this galaxy. |
MSH: Are there any other planets which are (?). | MSH: Are there any other planets which are (?). |
LRH: I think flying saucers right now that's coming to dump off more theta beings. -Ah, dump off more entheta, enthetaed beings. Targs. | LRH: I think flying saucers right now that's coming to dump off more theta beings. -Ah, dump off more entheta, enthetaed beings. Targs. |
MSH: Mmhm | MSH: Mmhm |
LRH: What they're dropping down here is Targ ridden. It's a desease - somebody gets Targ ridden - gets unbalanced. The thing to do is not so much how to know how to get rid of the Targs but how to straighten out Targs. - No drop? | LRH: What they're dropping down here is Targ ridden. It's a desease - somebody gets Targ ridden - gets unbalanced. The thing to do is not so much how to know how to get rid of the Targs but how to straighten out Targs. - No drop? |
MSH: No drop - Targ doesn't want to be straightened out. | MSH: No drop - Targ doesn't want to be straightened out. |
LRH: What? | LRH: What? |
MSH: Maybe Targ doesn't want to be straightened out. | MSH: Maybe Targ doesn't want to be straightened out. |
LRH: They want the theta being to be straightened out. No, they got to control theta beings or die. These have been so disobedient. The trouble is they're under terrific conservation. You can't kill 'em. You can banish them but they keep theta blind. In a blind theta trap. Earth is psychopathic. | LRH: They want the theta being to be straightened out. No, they got to control theta beings or die. These have been so disobedient. The trouble is they're under terrific conservation. You can't kill 'em. You can banish them but they keep theta blind. In a blind theta trap. Earth is psychopathic. |
MSH: Nice drop. | MSH: Nice drop. |
LRH: There's no problem about it. I know what makes a Targ operate. He operates just like a theta being operated. He gets aberrated. He gets down tone scale. He gets stuck in incidents. You get no drop on any of that? | LRH: There's no problem about it. I know what makes a Targ operate. He operates just like a theta being operated. He gets aberrated. He gets down tone scale. He gets stuck in incidents. You get no drop on any of that? |
MSH: No. | MSH: No. |
LRH: Theta beings get stuck in incidents. | LRH: Theta beings get stuck in incidents. |
MSH: Slight, yes. | MSH: Slight, yes. |
LRH: I guess Targs have a different method of remembering. | LRH: I guess Targs have a different method of remembering. |
MSH: There you got a drop. | MSH: There you got a drop. |
LRH: I guess it's the Targ that has a facsimile. | LRH: I guess it's the Targ that has a facsimile. |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: The theta being has the facsimile, then. | LRH: The theta being has the facsimile, then. |
MSH: MmHm. The Targ (?) | MSH: MmHm. The Targ (?) |
LRH: The Targ employes the theta beings facsimilies against the theta being. | LRH: The Targ employes the theta beings facsimilies against the theta being. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: That's how you get engrams in restimulation that won't knock out. This is one track theta didn't know. Theta hasn't gone on this track before. He's never had much trouble with Targs before. | LRH: That's how you get engrams in restimulation that won't knock out. This is one track theta didn't know. Theta hasn't gone on this track before. He's never had much trouble with Targs before. |
MSH: You dropped the needle. | MSH: You dropped the needle. |
LRH: I guess they didn't know if the Targ was trying to do. Maybe there's a secret society of Targs that suddenly decided that and messed up a lot of theta beings. But the central problem is, how do you handle and straighten out Targs. No - the central problem is how do you straighten up theta beings. How do you wake up theta beings who have been run down by Targs. | LRH: I guess they didn't know if the Targ was trying to do. Maybe there's a secret society of Targs that suddenly decided that and messed up a lot of theta beings. But the central problem is, how do you handle and straighten out Targs. No - the central problem is how do you straighten up theta beings. How do you wake up theta beings who have been run down by Targs. |
MSH: Bam! | MSH: Bam! |
LRH: That's it! Because if the theta being got awake, they'd have no trouble controlling the Targ. If a theta being got awake, why there isn't a Targ anywhere around who would dare do anything. | LRH: That's it! Because if the theta being got awake, they'd have no trouble controlling the Targ. If a theta being got awake, why there isn't a Targ anywhere around who would dare do anything. |
MSH: Bong. | MSH: Bong. |
LRH: Theta beings could do things to 'em. Crash - Theta beings could put them in agony just by looking at 'em. | LRH: Theta beings could do things to 'em. Crash - Theta beings could put them in agony just by looking at 'em. |
MSH: Bang. | MSH: Bang. |
LRH: Yeah - you just look at 'em and they go boom. The thought of being looked at by the theta being or examined or questioned by a theta being. Theta beings can see right through them. There's a trick sort of turning them around and you look at 'em and they suddenly start to spin. They go flying into a million pieces just because they're a piece of the theta universe. | LRH: Yeah - you just look at 'em and they go boom. The thought of being looked at by the theta being or examined or questioned by a theta being. Theta beings can see right through them. There's a trick sort of turning them around and you look at 'em and they suddenly start to spin. They go flying into a million pieces just because they're a piece of the theta universe. |
MSH: Drop | MSH: Drop |
LRH: I guess they're composites in the theta universe - some of them. No drop? | LRH: I guess they're composites in the theta universe - some of them. No drop? |
MSH: No. What did you think of? | MSH: No. What did you think of? |
LRH: Nothing. I just moved my fingers on the cans. But I thought of - you can't get any good management, eveybody has got targ-ridden. | LRH: Nothing. I just moved my fingers on the cans. But I thought of - you can't get any good management, eveybody has got targ-ridden. |
LRH: The one thing the Targ will not let you do, under any circumstances, is win. The Targ is against all construction. | LRH: The one thing the Targ will not let you do, under any circumstances, is win. The Targ is against all construction. |
MSH: Crash! | MSH: Crash! |
LRH: Because the Targ is a slave and construction makes a Targ sweat. It's very aesthetic to the theta being but it makes a Targ sweat. Targ is the guy who does the work - I guess not. Well these Targs won't admit they were having work. | LRH: Because the Targ is a slave and construction makes a Targ sweat. It's very aesthetic to the theta being but it makes a Targ sweat. Targ is the guy who does the work - I guess not. Well these Targs won't admit they were having work. |
MSH: Are they afraid they'll have to work? | MSH: Are they afraid they'll have to work? |
LRH: They're afraid they'll have to work. Yeah, they're afraid I'll find out that they can work. Look at that drop. They're like a bunch of labor leaders...old union guys. | LRH: They're afraid they'll have to work. Yeah, they're afraid I'll find out that they can work. Look at that drop. They're like a bunch of labor leaders...old union guys. |
MSH: Big rise in tone. | MSH: Big rise in tone. |
LRH: Big rise in tone. Oh, they're proud of the union, workers of the world unite. Hey, communism is a Targ philosophy. Theta beings never work. Big rise in tone. They're proud of communism. Says so. | LRH: Big rise in tone. Oh, they're proud of the union, workers of the world unite. Hey, communism is a Targ philosophy. Theta beings never work. Big rise in tone. They're proud of communism. Says so. |
MSH: That's right. | MSH: That's right. |
LRH: Communism is their great success. That's why anybody who thinks in this society is immediately attacked, you're surrounded by Targs. See what's liable to happen right now. | LRH: Communism is their great success. That's why anybody who thinks in this society is immediately attacked, you're surrounded by Targs. See what's liable to happen right now. |
MSH: A drop. | MSH: A drop. |
LRH: I'm about thiry percent of weight right this minute. I'm just liable to tell all these Targs where to go. I'm surprised somebody hasn't sent a theta being down here because look at all these Targs, and put them in their places. There was something wrong with it. Hah - the theta being - Crash! ... | LRH: I'm about thiry percent of weight right this minute. I'm just liable to tell all these Targs where to go. I'm surprised somebody hasn't sent a theta being down here because look at all these Targs, and put them in their places. There was something wrong with it. Hah - the theta being - Crash! ... |
MSH: uhuh | MSH: uhuh |
LRH: The theta being who has never been Targ ridden just did not understand how the Targ ever got in control. -little drop - Yeah, he did understand that the Targ got in control but he didn't know the mechanism by which he got in control so he didn't think the Targ would get out of line. | LRH: The theta being who has never been Targ ridden just did not understand how the Targ ever got in control. -little drop - Yeah, he did understand that the Targ got in control but he didn't know the mechanism by which he got in control so he didn't think the Targ would get out of line. |
MSH: Big drop! | MSH: Big drop! |
LRH: And the theta beings thought that the theta beings had gone out of line. They condemned the people here on earth, the theta beings here on earth because they didn't think the theta being ... they didn't think the Targs would ever get that good. They had philosophies about it. They have never understood this. | LRH: And the theta beings thought that the theta beings had gone out of line. They condemned the people here on earth, the theta beings here on earth because they didn't think the theta being ... they didn't think the Targs would ever get that good. They had philosophies about it. They have never understood this. |
MSH: Drop. | MSH: Drop. |
LRH: Because your theta being who has never been Targ ridden would not know what a Targ ridden theta beings was. Just incapable of understanding. That's why the only people you find on earth are people who have suffered from degredation. Amongst the Targs you will not find one theta being. | LRH: Because your theta being who has never been Targ ridden would not know what a Targ ridden theta beings was. Just incapable of understanding. That's why the only people you find on earth are people who have suffered from degredation. Amongst the Targs you will not find one theta being. |
MSH: Bang! | MSH: Bang! |
LRH: In other words, you talk about this process and that process, you talk about his personalities. Sure they have personalities. We've seen them in market places, we've seen them hauling food and crate along roads in other societies, we've seen them in armies of Targs. - There hasn't been any drop - you know why that is? I don't think any of these Targs would admit this. | LRH: In other words, you talk about this process and that process, you talk about his personalities. Sure they have personalities. We've seen them in market places, we've seen them hauling food and crate along roads in other societies, we've seen them in armies of Targs. - There hasn't been any drop - you know why that is? I don't think any of these Targs would admit this. |
MSH: They wouldn't admit it? | MSH: They wouldn't admit it? |
LRH: They wouldn't admit to ever having been slaves. They might have me think they've all been gentlemen... big drop. | LRH: They wouldn't admit to ever having been slaves. They might have me think they've all been gentlemen... big drop. |
MSH: mhmm | MSH: mhmm |
LRH: They've all been gentlemen polishing their fingers and so on. | LRH: They've all been gentlemen polishing their fingers and so on. |
MSH: That's very confusing. | MSH: That's very confusing. |
LRH: They're monkeys. | LRH: They're monkeys. |
MSH: They're columns of workers in communism and so forth and yet they lack (?) | MSH: They're columns of workers in communism and so forth and yet they lack (?) |
LRH: Oh, they'd never have their hands dirty. They wouldn't go out and wash the car for me. | LRH: Oh, they'd never have their hands dirty. They wouldn't go out and wash the car for me. |
MSH: No. | MSH: No. |
LRH: They wouldn't wash the car. They wouldn't do anything like that. They wouldn't mop the floor. Actually, you know what you could do with a Targ? A Targ can do poltergeist, if he wants to. Not if he wants to - if he's ordered to. | LRH: They wouldn't wash the car. They wouldn't do anything like that. They wouldn't mop the floor. Actually, you know what you could do with a Targ? A Targ can do poltergeist, if he wants to. Not if he wants to - if he's ordered to. |
MSH: mhmm | MSH: mhmm |
LRH: He can do poltergeist. | LRH: He can do poltergeist. |
MSH: Big drop. | MSH: Big drop. |
LRH: If you just suddenly ordered Targ to go out and sweep the front porch, you might not even see anything but the next thing you know, the front porch would be clean. You could see 'em. These Targs have blinded the theta beings they're with and they do love the blind theta being. It's where a theta being has been wrecked, that you find a person. | LRH: If you just suddenly ordered Targ to go out and sweep the front porch, you might not even see anything but the next thing you know, the front porch would be clean. You could see 'em. These Targs have blinded the theta beings they're with and they do love the blind theta being. It's where a theta being has been wrecked, that you find a person. |
MSH: Dropped the needle. | MSH: Dropped the needle. |
LRH: Earth, by the way, had a whole line of oncoming theta beings that was doing all right and all of a sudden they had to have a plan of patrol unit of Targ ridden theta beings. - no drop? - | LRH: Earth, by the way, had a whole line of oncoming theta beings that was doing all right and all of a sudden they had to have a plan of patrol unit of Targ ridden theta beings. - no drop? - |
MSH: No drop | MSH: No drop |
LRH: I can't find out why the hell this evolutionary scale on earth. Is it all Targ? | LRH: I can't find out why the hell this evolutionary scale on earth. Is it all Targ? |
MSH: No drop. | MSH: No drop. |
LRH: I guess it's theta. Maybe evolution on earth is incredibly fast. | LRH: I guess it's theta. Maybe evolution on earth is incredibly fast. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: I can do it. Here's a big point. I wonder if we weren't as an assembled group, jumped over ... How come all this stuff about being put in with the Targs? The Targs being put on you. Was that a theta ceremony? Whereby a person could have a body? | LRH: I can do it. Here's a big point. I wonder if we weren't as an assembled group, jumped over ... How come all this stuff about being put in with the Targs? The Targs being put on you. Was that a theta ceremony? Whereby a person could have a body? |
MSH: A little drop there. | MSH: A little drop there. |
LRH: I just get the sensation that these Targs would love to lie like hell about this whole deal. | LRH: I just get the sensation that these Targs would love to lie like hell about this whole deal. |
MSH: A big drop, mhmm. | MSH: A big drop, mhmm. |
LRH: Well, you do find a lie all over the place. All of a sudden this is the one thing we mustn't know. Yuk, yuk, yuk. | LRH: Well, you do find a lie all over the place. All of a sudden this is the one thing we mustn't know. Yuk, yuk, yuk. |
MSH: You got something on the theta being. When he comes into the Mest universe and just attached themselves to the theta being. | MSH: You got something on the theta being. When he comes into the Mest universe and just attached themselves to the theta being. |
LRH: I guess nothing but Targs were dumped off here. | LRH: I guess nothing but Targs were dumped off here. |
MSH: You didn't get a drop on that. | MSH: You didn't get a drop on that. |
LRH: Well the theta being and the six Targs, were dropped off, each one, in a bundle. - a little drop on that. | LRH: Well the theta being and the six Targs, were dropped off, each one, in a bundle. - a little drop on that. |
MSH: mhmm. | MSH: mhmm. |
LRH: Ice cubes - operation ice cube. - nope, nothing on that. Oh boy! This is a big secret. | LRH: Ice cubes - operation ice cube. - nope, nothing on that. Oh boy! This is a big secret. |
MSH: They were all packed together in a body, is that it? | MSH: They were all packed together in a body, is that it? |
LRH: Maybe that's the punishment of the theta being that allowed itself to become Targ ridden. No? - That's the punishment of the Targs and they threw a theta being in with him. | LRH: Maybe that's the punishment of the theta being that allowed itself to become Targ ridden. No? - That's the punishment of the Targs and they threw a theta being in with him. |
No. | No. |
MSH: no. | MSH: no. |
LRH: It's sort of crude. There's a theta being and six Targs together - we got that. There's a drop on that, isn't there? | LRH: It's sort of crude. There's a theta being and six Targs together - we got that. There's a drop on that, isn't there? |
MSH: Mhmm. | MSH: Mhmm. |
LRH: A theta being and six Targs. First we had one Targ, way back we had one Targ, then we had two Targs, then three Targs, or four Targs, and then we had six Targs. These Targs would never admit that they had ever been inferior, in fact, they are all something. You know, they're struggling for the existence of all Targs on earth if they knew it. Now why don't the theta beings come down here and straighten them out? | LRH: A theta being and six Targs. First we had one Targ, way back we had one Targ, then we had two Targs, then three Targs, or four Targs, and then we had six Targs. These Targs would never admit that they had ever been inferior, in fact, they are all something. You know, they're struggling for the existence of all Targs on earth if they knew it. Now why don't the theta beings come down here and straighten them out? |
MSH: Do all Targs have the same tone level subject to the universe and ... | MSH: Do all Targs have the same tone level subject to the universe and ... |
LRH: Here's thought. Maybe there's no theta beings on earth. | LRH: Here's thought. Maybe there's no theta beings on earth. |
MSH: No? There's a drop on it. | MSH: No? There's a drop on it. |
LRH: Well, there's a theta being in every human being, almost. | LRH: Well, there's a theta being in every human being, almost. |
MSH: Yeah. Chiefly asleep in most human beings. | MSH: Yeah. Chiefly asleep in most human beings. |
LRH: Maybe it was just a big experiment. Theta beings in suspended animation, that's what they are. | LRH: Maybe it was just a big experiment. Theta beings in suspended animation, that's what they are. |
MSH: This secret is how to put a Targ and a theta being into a body here on earth? | MSH: This secret is how to put a Targ and a theta being into a body here on earth? |
LRH: They aren't that way out there. I guess a handy way to dispose of them. | LRH: They aren't that way out there. I guess a handy way to dispose of them. |
MSH: Does a theta being electronically consider himself to be a Targ? | MSH: Does a theta being electronically consider himself to be a Targ? |
LRH: Mmm - Yes that theta being, I guess, that had considered himself a Targ, became too closely allied with his crew so he lost control of his crew and it's almost a ceremony about it. Which is "Listen here you, you're no longer a theta being - you must be ... you're a Targ ridder, or you're a Targer. You're a Targ man. You're on the same level as your own crew. You're not controlling the thing. You no longer can conquer. | LRH: Mmm - Yes that theta being, I guess, that had considered himself a Targ, became too closely allied with his crew so he lost control of his crew and it's almost a ceremony about it. Which is "Listen here you, you're no longer a theta being - you must be ... you're a Targ ridder, or you're a Targer. You're a Targ man. You're on the same level as your own crew. You're not controlling the thing. You no longer can conquer. |
MSH: You're one of us. Know that you're one of us. You got a small drop. | MSH: You're one of us. Know that you're one of us. You got a small drop. |
LRH: The Targ say so? | LRH: The Targ say so? |
MSH: The Targs. You're one of us. | MSH: The Targs. You're one of us. |
LRH: Well everybody on earth does that don't they? | LRH: Well everybody on earth does that don't they? |
MSH: Yes, Mmhm. Now I'm getting a drop. | MSH: Yes, Mmhm. Now I'm getting a drop. |
LRH: It's typical Freudian philosophy. Well, how come these theta beings had to be condemned? And if they were condemned ... | LRH: It's typical Freudian philosophy. Well, how come these theta beings had to be condemned? And if they were condemned ... |
MSH: It seems like the Targ would get something on them and convince the theta being that they were all wrong and they had done something horrible and sinful and then of its own decision come down here and they would have gone down here - no drop. | MSH: It seems like the Targ would get something on them and convince the theta being that they were all wrong and they had done something horrible and sinful and then of its own decision come down here and they would have gone down here - no drop. |
LRH: No punishment - it's just that the theta being would be about the same as the Targ and in disgust one of those would be sent down here. | LRH: No punishment - it's just that the theta being would be about the same as the Targ and in disgust one of those would be sent down here. |
MSH: Is there a ... | MSH: Is there a ... |
LRH: He brought down original Targs. Maybe a theta being would loose his Targs and become very degraded and couldn't do anything about it - | LRH: He brought down original Targs. Maybe a theta being would loose his Targs and become very degraded and couldn't do anything about it - |
(a knock on the door) | (a knock on the door) |
Come in. ... couldn't do anything about it and he'd just get punished by being single. | Come in. ... couldn't do anything about it and he'd just get punished by being single. |
MSH: You got a big drop on there. | MSH: You got a big drop on there. |
LRH: Loose his Targs and then you'd select any of these damn Targs that was lying around and you throw this guy in with these Targs and throw 'em down there and tell 'em to work themselves out. Oh yeah. That's a command we're under. Throw 'em down and you tell 'em work it out. | LRH: Loose his Targs and then you'd select any of these damn Targs that was lying around and you throw this guy in with these Targs and throw 'em down there and tell 'em to work themselves out. Oh yeah. That's a command we're under. Throw 'em down and you tell 'em work it out. |
LRH: There's six Targs. | LRH: There's six Targs. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: That's marooning. That's the piracy of marooning. You give him a bag ... a few books, a little powder, a musket, a bag of bicuits and throw him on a desert isle and that's what happened. Here's this guy, you make ... the six Targs they make a body with him, and you're out, work it out and when you got it all worked out you come back up here again because theta doesn't control theta. Theta controls Targs. And when you learn how to control Targs, you're all right. Big drop! | LRH: That's marooning. That's the piracy of marooning. You give him a bag ... a few books, a little powder, a musket, a bag of bicuits and throw him on a desert isle and that's what happened. Here's this guy, you make ... the six Targs they make a body with him, and you're out, work it out and when you got it all worked out you come back up here again because theta doesn't control theta. Theta controls Targs. And when you learn how to control Targs, you're all right. Big drop! |
MSH: All the way on this too. | MSH: All the way on this too. |
LRH: Well that's the start. Crash. Therefore these Targs have been fighting like hell because the day of their liberty is at end the day theta gets well. | LRH: Well that's the start. Crash. Therefore these Targs have been fighting like hell because the day of their liberty is at end the day theta gets well. |
MSH: Big drop on this last part. - (?) - and they'd go. | MSH: Big drop on this last part. - (?) - and they'd go. |
LRH: That's why your collectivists are nothing but scuds. | LRH: That's why your collectivists are nothing but scuds. |
MSH: Christ! | MSH: Christ! |
LRH: That's why your socialist is nothing but a crab. Well for god sakes, that's why they consider fascists so horrible. Socialists for god's sake. There couldn't be one of them who's worth a damn. There could be a level of theta beings getting together to work out the problem but nobody could find enough theta beings that are awake. | LRH: That's why your socialist is nothing but a crab. Well for god sakes, that's why they consider fascists so horrible. Socialists for god's sake. There couldn't be one of them who's worth a damn. There could be a level of theta beings getting together to work out the problem but nobody could find enough theta beings that are awake. |
MSH: Right. | MSH: Right. |
LRH: This is a battle of the Targs. Entheta is winning. Well... I could just see apathy getting to these Targs all over the place. | LRH: This is a battle of the Targs. Entheta is winning. Well... I could just see apathy getting to these Targs all over the place. |
MSH: Heh! | MSH: Heh! |
LRH: "Well, you work it out" they said ... Goodbye! That's a theta consul you hit. | LRH: "Well, you work it out" they said ... Goodbye! That's a theta consul you hit. |
Or they gave you these six Targs but they aren't necessarily the Targs that you had before. You lost them. Maybe you got your own Targs. Sometimes you did and sometimes they didn't. Yeah! This accounts for one I had one time. There's one of those things sitting there. Oh, it's just a Targ... No it's not ... one of those things or something. Don't pay any attention to it. Skirt snatched away from it. Well there you are. For a while ... yeah. | Or they gave you these six Targs but they aren't necessarily the Targs that you had before. You lost them. Maybe you got your own Targs. Sometimes you did and sometimes they didn't. Yeah! This accounts for one I had one time. There's one of those things sitting there. Oh, it's just a Targ... No it's not ... one of those things or something. Don't pay any attention to it. Skirt snatched away from it. Well there you are. For a while ... yeah. |
Now you're running Arslycus? | Now you're running Arslycus? |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: You're running Targs. That's what happened to Targs. That's also what happened to you. | LRH: You're running Targs. That's what happened to Targs. That's also what happened to you. |
MSH: (?) | MSH: (?) |
LRH: That's what happened to Targs. They're not afraid of you. | LRH: That's what happened to Targs. They're not afraid of you. |
MSH: Oh, I see. | MSH: Oh, I see. |
LRH: The theta beings lived in the joint. | LRH: The theta beings lived in the joint. |
MSH: Mmhm. | MSH: Mmhm. |
LRH: And you were a theta being. You lived in the joint. What you are, if you did. And you're running the history of one of your own Targs. | LRH: And you were a theta being. You lived in the joint. What you are, if you did. And you're running the history of one of your own Targs. |
MSH: (Laugh) | MSH: (Laugh) |
LRH: Big drop...all the way across. | LRH: Big drop...all the way across. |
MSH: Yeah | MSH: Yeah |
LRH: So, these guys that feel so bad about you... you can sneak up on these guys and say, "Remember this" and "Isn't this horrible" and so on, and the guy gets a hell of a big drop, you know damn well he's asleep. It doesn't matter what the hell you do to one of these Targ riders, one of these Targ ridden guys. It doesn't matter what you do to a Targ. Kill 'em. Just put 'em under control. Like last night. "Go on out for a walk." Bang. | LRH: So, these guys that feel so bad about you... you can sneak up on these guys and say, "Remember this" and "Isn't this horrible" and so on, and the guy gets a hell of a big drop, you know damn well he's asleep. It doesn't matter what the hell you do to one of these Targ riders, one of these Targ ridden guys. It doesn't matter what you do to a Targ. Kill 'em. Just put 'em under control. Like last night. "Go on out for a walk." Bang. |
They'll obey anything. Wow! No somatics. | They'll obey anything. Wow! No somatics. |
[To instructor] Hey you! | [To instructor] Hey you! |
Instructor: Yes sir? | Instructor: Yes sir? |
LRH: All those Targs, go on out for a walk, all of them. | LRH: All those Targs, go on out for a walk, all of them. |
[sounds of shuffling chairs] | [sounds of shuffling chairs] |
LRH: Hey, I'm jokeing! | LRH: Hey, I'm jokeing! |
Instructor: Yeah, I know. | Instructor: Yeah, I know. |
LRH: Good. All out for a walk. Walk up and down the road until you're called back, then I'll put you to work! | LRH: Good. All out for a walk. Walk up and down the road until you're called back, then I'll put you to work! |
LRH: [to MSH] We even have a great instructor. | LRH: [to MSH] We even have a great instructor. |
| (The end of the Tape.)-- | (The end of the Tape.)-- |