EXTERIORIZATION - LECTURE AND DEMONSTRATION | EXTERIORIZATION AND STUCK CASES | |
A Lecture and Demonstration Given on 12 January 1954 128 Minutes | A Lecture Given on 12 January 1954 36 Minutes | |
And this is the second hour this morning of the 12th of January, 1954. And I hope you’ve digested-this is a much less formal hour-I hope you’ve digested now, psychotherapy. Now, that isn’t too much to ask of you, actually. I hope you’ve digested it, because it should be pretty easy to do. And I hope you could now mock yourself up as a psychotherapist quite convincingly. | All right. Now, let’s take up something, this afternoon lecture of January the 12th, 1954, let’s take up something which is very short, quick, sweet and to the point. Let’s take up that type of processing which frees up these stuck cases that can’t get out of their heads and get them on the road. | |
Now, what would you be trying to do? Now, just say this over to yourself, “Now, what would you be trying to do with this patient?” And sort of “How would you go about getting him to do this to a point where he could?” | All right. Several processes can be used. Undoubtedly new, modern, better ones will be invented, but I’m going to give you the one which has been prying people out of their heads, not with great speed but with great certainty. And that is, putting postulates—and I better make a full statement of it: putting knowingness, beingness, lookingness, emotingness, effortingness, thinkingness, symbolizingness, eatingness and sexingness into real and mocked-up walls, spaces, times, people-repetitively, so as to get the full effect of duplication. And to make them put these things in as a self-determined action and pull them back as a self-determined action and to utilize brackets wherever possible. And that’s a full statement of the whole thing. | |
You might get very specific, you know, and actually find some sort of an idea that he was trying to reject and couldn’t. You know, I mean, do some actual analysis. You know, find out “Well, let’s see, he’s trying to reject ideas about his job or he’s trying to reject ideas about this and that-he can’t. All right, let’s see how we can go about doing this.” We could even write the ideas down on pieces of paper and push them across the desk, away, and write them down on a piece of paper again and push them across the desk again. You’d understand that we’d have an enormous number of ways that we could get him to reject and hold away from him ideas. You see that clearly? All right. Let’s mock ourselves up as auditors and do some Theta Clearing, by the same process. | Now that process, in essence, is a very, very simple process. And you, as an auditor, may often find this process a boring process, but this has nothing to do with its effectiveness. | |
A person is going to exteriorize as well as he can get something to move away from him, that’s a cinch. It’s antipathetic to the thetan to move away from the body-slightly antipathetic to him. He’s just as happy to have the body move away from him. As a matter of fact, he’d rather have the body move away from him or disappear. | 257 | |
And the method which is most favored by a Resistive V is just have the body disappear. He actually tries this, he sort of tries to eat it up from inside or something of the sort. He stays inside there and starts to eat the body up. He chews up its ridges and he chews away at the body and so on. He wants it to disappear. He’s being terribly insistent upon the disappearance of a body, in other words. See that? He wants this thing to vanish. | Now, I hate to condemn people who are nailed in their heads by saying that they’re this way or they’re that way or that they depend some other way. The point of the matter is, they can’t hold themselves stationary and push an object off of them. Obviously they can’t, because they don’t exteriorize. | |
Well, you can assist him. All of a person’s unmocking machinery is sooner or later-that is to say, his unmocking automaticities-sooner or later turns against him. And there are just two kinds of automatic machines. | Well now then, if you figure, on this crude basis, that a thetan is doing exactly what he wants to do or he is doing what he wanted to do, at least, one time or another, you have this case in your hands. He’s doing what he wants to do. In other words, he wants to stay in a head and whatever he’s doing, he’s probably getting paid for. So, if you figure out that somebody is stuck in his head, then he must want to be there (no matter how unreasonable this may seem), it must be that there are penalties if he gets out, according to him, and it also must be that he’s getting paid for staying in his head. Because the stuckest of these boys can be made sick and will, at that moment, move out. They shove off very sadly, [sniff] They don’t want to go. | |
Now, when I say an automatic machine, by the way, I mean a machine, I don’t mean anything else. It is something that runs on energy and it generally has mechanical parts. See? This is very fascinating, what the thetan does with these. But it runs on energy, it has to have fuel and it accomplishes a certain result. | Sometimes you move one out by being very tricky-you know, real clever-tin-cup them out, get them out with effort. Make them feel four effort points inside their body and then four points of their body where there is no effort and then four points of their body where there is some effort and then four points where there is no effort and then make them feel the effort at the back of their head. And then make them put (quote) “hands” (unquote) on their shoulders and stand there and look at themselves-you don’t tell them to look at themselves, you tell them to feel themselves-and they’ll get out. You can tin-cup them out very easily. | |
Now, where does it get its fuel? Well, it gets its fuel from the individual himself, doesn’t get fuel anyplace else. | But you haven’t solved the basic problem. The basic problem is they have stuck in their heads and they want to be in their heads and there’s a penalty if they get out and they’re being paid to stay in. All right? All right. | |
Now, it can start to eat up ridges and mock-ups for its fuel, and will, just to the degree | This very clever auditing will find them back in again the next day. All right. So there’s tremendously clever methods which we can use to exteriorize people. I can exteriorize anybody without any trouble-anybody that’s stuck here-without any great trouble. But if I didn’t pursue it for a few days and use the process which I’m telling you about, they wouldn’t stay out, they’d go back in. | |
Now, you wouldn’t suspect a lot of the cases that are trying to (quote) “erase engrams” (unquote) as eating them. But that’s what they’re doing, they’re eating engrams. They complain a lot about the fodder, but they eat them. | Now, as I say, you can take the stuckest fellow you ever saw and you can make his body sick so that he’s halfway convinced it’s just impossible and he’s going to kick the bucket, as a body anyway, so he might as well leave. And he will withdraw and go off and sit on a mountaintop someplace and feel sorry for himself. He may even withdraw in another body-you know, some kind of an energy mock-up automaticity-and he’ll go sit on a mountain someplace or sit on a bell buoy (as one of them did) and grieve quietly to himself about this. Then he’ll go out there and he’ll get interested and then come back and decide the body isn’t that sick and get back in it. | |
Now, in view of the fact that they’re putting the engram there with their own energy, we get a very odd view. We could draw a graph of this, a picture of how this is, and we could put the thetan there as a bright spot of light and then we would have a facsimile there as a vertical line, somewhat near the thetan. And then we would put a wire, you might say, from this bright spot of light, around to the back of the facsimile to a little square box. And this little square box would be the machine making facsimiles. And now we would see that this facsimile, this vertical line, had come out of this little box on the power furnished it by the thetan himself. See that? | Or he’ll go outside and he’ll get stuck on some MEST and get frightened and go back in it. Sometimes when they automatically-1 mean, when they exteriorize themselves, they occasionally get stuck on MEST because they try to pull themselves off of it, like I was telling you this morning. It never occurs to them to say, “The MEST will now release,” with which, of course, it releases and they’re off of it. | |
In other words, this bright spot of light empowers this little box with enough energy in order to come back and put out a facsimile, which facsimile moves in on the bright spot of light and the thetan (quote) “eats it up” (unquote) because he needs energy. | This doesn’t occur to them. They keep pulling and they get panicky and they go back into the body again and they’re hard to get out afterwards. A person who’s exteriorized once, generally, has to have it-and goes back in-has to have it run as an automaticity because you’re just hitting the automaticity that moves him back in and it’ll run out. All right | |
Well, where did the facsimile get the energy in the first place? The facsimile is entirely parasitic. Now, this parasitic quality, you will find mirrored in human behavior all over the place. | But let’s get on to this other and we find out that the individual, if he got sick and thought he was going to die, would shove off. I know, because I artificially made a couple of these people very ill so that they would do just this, to find out whether or not this would take place. So they aren’t really stuck in their bodies. See, they aren’t really glued down, pinned down, nailed down, so forth, they can leave. But they must be paid to stay in, there must be penalties if they get out. | |
For instance, a military regime, such as a fascism, and the communist regime are, alike, parasitic upon the workers. And the reason these people “dote” so hard upon workers is because they want to be furnished provender. They have not varied even faintly from a crew of robber barons suddenly swinging in on a peasant countryside and setting up a castle on the hill and saying, “We’re now going to protect you in some fashion or another against your enemies and you’re going to pay us a certain amount of your provisions. And for that, you are supposed to be thankful to us.” | All right. Let’s take up the penalties if they get out. Somebody is liable to grab the mock-up. Other penalties: mock-ups are rather hard to get hold of. So this fellow has to be sold on the idea that he can’t create very well. He also is sold on the idea he’s liable to have things stolen from him. See that? And he’s lost a lot in his life. And just looking at it, it’s totally reasonable, like “Why did you go down to the store and get an ice-cream cone?” “Well, I went down to the store and got an ice-cream cone because I wanted an ice-cream cone.” Let’s just don’t sink any deeper into this exteriorization problem than that, because there are great liabilities in doing so. This fellow isn’t getting out of his body, because he doesn’t want to. But he feels that it would be much better for his body if he did get out of it and could patch it up, but he doesn’t want to leave the body anyhow. He has a much harder problem, by the way, in staying in than staying out. He’ll admit this, after a while, if he thinks it over. Because he isn’t touching the body anyplace, so it’s kind of difficult to stay in that exact piece of space the body is occupying. | |
It has not been beyond or above robber barons to split up their forces and build a castle on one hill and a castle on the other hill and put those two castles at war simply to get sufficient support from the peasantry-themselves remaining in a high state of war for public consumption only, just so there’s enough danger in the environment to protect the peasant from, so the peasant will furnish provender. | Well, let’s not look, then, for deep significance about this guy who’s stuck in his head. He must have penalties if he gets out and he must have pay if he stays in. Well, let’s then solve penalties and pay, huh? And we find out that this pays off very heavily. | |
Now, there’s not too much difference in this than the very straightforward method of simply riding in with lances and armor plate into a farming community and gutting the granaries. But after you’ve gutted just so many granaries and after you have trampled underfoot just so many fields of wheat, you run out of countryside to gut and you become less well provided for. So this is an impractical solution and the practical solution is to set up a castle on the mount and extract it a little at a time-instead of wrecking next year’s crop, why, get it in advance. You know, I mean, tell people that they owe it already and now raise it. Well that’s, in its essence, “government.” And government is parasitic upon workers. | Now, the process which has been doing this is the formula which I just gave you. And it would run something like this: | |
Now, this is not beating the tom-tom for workers, but it rather, as you look at it, it seems a little bit more reasonable, some of the things that happen across the world. | “All right, put some fear into the forward wall of the room.” | |
Why-why do these governments fight? Why are they so combative? Everybody more or less realizes that the country which is internally threatened will find some reason or another to get an external enemy. | I don’t ask you to do this process, I’ll just give it to you. | |
Hitler’s regime was chipping around the edges and actually forced him to go into a rather wild attack on Europe. Whereas, as- a matter of fact, politically he had Europe within his grasp. But he needed a war and he got a war. | “Put some fear into the forward wall of the room.” | |
Now, it wasn’t true that Franklin Delano needed a war. He didn’t need a war for the support of the American people. But operating in the operating climate he operated in, it probably seemed to him that a war was not too undesirable. So we have US destroyers out-long before Congress or the people have said anything about it-we have US destroyers out, actively engaged in combat and being sunk and sinking the enemy a year before any slightest move, as war, was made on the part of the American people or the Senate. | “Okay. Now put enough in there so that you can feel it back.” “And move it back at you. Not only put it in but move it back at you.” | |
Exteriorization: Lecture and Demonstration | You make them both do it, self-determined, you see-don’t just put it in and feel it, that’s wrong. | |
We had a very anxious government there, it was precipitating a war by a series of overt acts, without the consent of the people. This is not a criticism of the Democratic regime of 1932 to 1945, but it is just an outright condemnation of it. [laughter] I wouldn’t be that covert on the subject. | “Now, put it in and now move it-а wave of it back so that you can feel it.” | |
These boys were not doing anything different than any politician does. A politician has very little to offer, he feels very insecure because he recognizes in himself a parasite. His activities are not constructive really, but they are regulative in some fashion. He recognizes this mainly by being inefficient and you see in inefficient governments that parasitic quality very paramount. | He has to do both of them. | |
You take a European Government-there’s a little more realism there on the part of the people. They know they are simply being looted and they expect to have to pay out so much to these people who are around looting them. And if they get some small proportion of the law and order which they wish they had, why, they are perfectly happy about it, but they don’t take governments very seriously. They don’t take soldiers or politicians very seriously. It’s a surprising statement. In this country, they’re taken much more seriously. | And now, of course, “Put some fear in the forward wall of the room.” “And now decide when it’s going to come back and you’re going to feel it.” “Okay. Now feel it coming back at you.” | |
For instance, in England dear old Queen Elizabeth, right now, is living in an interesting climate. The British people look toward her for color and they are very pleased to have a colorful, well-mannered figure there, because it represents the government and it is itself a symbol. And they, oddly enough, are actually buying something for their tax money. There wasn’t anything colorful about FDR. And as far as Ike is concerned, his after-dinner jokes were much better before he was president. | In other words, just as you do in Opening Procedure, you make him make up his mind. This little formula interweaves through all of these things because it solves postulates. All right. | |
But we have a realism any time we get closer to an actual truth and if a people is perfectly willing to support a government merely because it’s colorful-you know, support a household like that just because it’s colorful-why, that’s quite real, you know? You say, “Well, that’s a good fact.” | Front wall of the room, the ceiling, back of the room, right side of the room, left side of the room and floor. And we just keep making him do this. | |
But when we get into the deep significances of why we have to have a central figurehead and why we have to do this and why we have to do that, that’s really plowing in, that’s getting into the effort band very badly. | “Now let’s take the upper space of the room and let’s put fear in that.” “And the lower space of the room and put fear in that.” “Let’s take the space underneath the chair and put some fear in that.” “Now let’s make it come back at you.” “Now let’s take a small cube of space in the front of the building and put some fear in that.” “Now move the feeling of the fear back at you” and so on. | |
In Spain today-we, in this country, have a feeling that the Spanish people have been disenfranchised in some fashion or another-they’re actually quite happy, they’re much better off than they’ve been for about forty years. You see, they know what it is to be looted and Franco is actually quite light-fingered. And they speak of him in a relatively disrespectful sort of way, “Oh, Franco-you know, we’ve got somebody up in Madrid named Franco. We see him in the pictures all the time because he subsidizes the newsreels.” And that’s about all there is to it. | And we just keep this up, continually, because we’re trying to knock out his automatic emoting and sensation and working and thinking and symbolizing and eating and sexing machinery. | |
And you say, “Well, rah, rah, rah, revolution” and this and that. | We’re just trying to knock this out enough so that he can gain back the power which he is now handing covertly to his automaticities-because he’ll get all that back, you see. See, he can do all these things. The fellow is tremendously able, actually. You keep looking at the preclear as somebody who’s disabled, he’s actually tremendously able. But he’s gotten into a state of unknowingness where he doesn’t know what he’s doing to him. And he hides all this from himself and he gets scrambled this way-but remember, he’s still doing these things! | |
And they say, “Well, yes ...” The only thing that got under their skin was the Junkers 52 bombed some of their major cities and there’s big holes where buildings were. And that they didn’t like. That was not according to the rule book-а foreign power coming in and bombing their cities-because they are very fond of their cities. Their cities are very old and have a lot of art in them and they’re very-they like Spain, the Spaniards do, and this they didn’t like at all. But they really don’t hold this as much of an overt act against Franco. “Well, this is Franco, it’s a government.” It’s at least stable. | All these preclears that look at you sadly and say, “I can’t do that,” posh-tosh. The fellow can eat an ice-cream soda, can’t he? And taste an ice-cream soda? Well, if he can eat and taste an ice-cream soda, damn it, he can mock-up an ice-cream soda. He could put the flavor into an ice-cream soda and he can feel it back and he can have the mass in his stomach. Well, this is a gorgeous piece of ability, believe me. Well, if he can go do that, he can do that. I mean, that’s all there is to it. | |
And under the type of government where we couldn’t make up our mind who was getting the loot-you know, the communist-type government they had before that and the socialist-type governments-they were very unhappy. You know, you couldn’t quite tell who to pay off! Well, now there’s no doubt about it, so you pay off the Guardia CM, of course, and everybody is cheerful about it. But they’re not taking that government seriously. | Now, you just start him putting the flavor of ice-cream sodas in the six walls of the room and, after a while, he can get better ice-cream soda than he could just get out of an ice-cream soda. But we’re not trying to establish a new automaticity, are we? | |
Now, I think Russia probably is taking its government terribly seriously because the Russian never was able to do anything else. The government doesn’t operate in the effort band, he operates in the apathy band. For instance, we hear stories in Russia rather consistently-а bunch of peasants go into a barn and burn the barn down on themselves. Yeah, they do, I mean they have, they still do. | Now, we could do this in two ways. We could make him put things into walls and so forth and then forget he was doing it and bury it and get it all automatic and so forth so that he’ll always have it. Or we could just get him to do it till he demonstrated to himself he could do it and that he was doing it. That’s what we’re trying to do: he just can do it and is doing it himself. That’s as far as we want to go with that, because he’ll always be able to do it. | |
We get over into Germany, we find this same level of superseriousness about things. We find German youth today very perturbed, but it’s the same German youth that Hitler had and the same German youth that Kaiser Bill had and the same German youth that early days of Bismarck had. The youth hasn’t changed any. Here we have an attitude toward ruling powers based upon “How much is it going to cost, in terms of produce and effort on our part?” See, I mean, there is the real computation of it. | Now, the penalties for getting out, of course, are fear, loss, anxiety, ridicule, nothingness-there’s a lot of them-you know what they are. | |
In this country, you have a different viewpoint. We feel that we own the government and so forth. Well, I don’t know which is the more dangerous postulate, because they’re both based upon this: any organization which can put itself up as parasitic upon workers or parasitic upon the production unit and then exist, apparently in authority, is simply following the pattern of automatic machinery. The worker actually creates the government and keeps it there. And he loses sight of this fact. He, in his own enmities and differences and upsets and quarrels, himself, breeds the necessity for government. And then he sets the government up and he pays it tribute and then the government has an excuse for being. | And the reward for staying in is sexingness, eatingness, thinkingness (he thinks the body thinks for him, he sets it up so it’ll think for him) emotingness and, in symbols, identity-with an emphasis on the "I”. So he gets paid for staying in and he gets penalties for staying out. | |
And so there is, in an engram bank, some excuse for being. The excuse is that “one has to remember and one has to be jolted into a recognition of dangers to be averted.” One is actually paying tribute, via his energy output, to automatic machinery which takes care of him by not getting him into trouble and by getting him out of trouble and by banishing or unmocking trouble before it occurs. You see how this would be? | Now you say, “Be three feet behind your head” and he just can’t quite-you see this on a paying basis. He just looks over this and he decides that this won’t pay him very well, he’s all right the way he is. | |
The fellow hands over the right to decide whether he’s in trouble or not on the basis that he might not be able to decide fast enough. And he makes the mistake of deciding that an automatic machine will decide faster than himself. It keeps up a continuous scanning awareness of the environment, for instance. It polices and patrols the environment against sudden dangers and has the power to dictate action in an emergency. | He sort of reminds you, to some degree, of the fellow who’s got ten cents and somebody puts down a million dollars in perfectly good silver coin a hundred feet from him and he has to leave that ten cents to go over and pick up at least one or a hundred or the whole million dollars and he just won’t drop that dime! Because he’s not sure that that million dollars is going to be there at the time he arrives and have him walk that hundred feet, do you see? So he doesn’t want to cross the bridge. | |
We have no difference in this than a government with the worker and the produce and the army and the police force and the courts and so forth. And we even have the colorful engram, the aesthetic type-in other words, the English queen, see, the colorful engram, the colorful picture. These machines will furnish, then, amusement. They will furnish interest and they will furnish a symbol for beingness. | So you would, actually, have to pick up these million dollars and kind of start scattering them down the path toward him a little bit so that he could pick up a dollar instantaneously with his dropping the dime-and that’s the bridge. | |
And when we look at a preclear as a complete government and worker society-as we look at the preclear as an entire social unit within himself-just look at him on the Third Dynamic, as a Third Dynamic, we find just about what he is doing. He has set up willfully, and perfectly willingly, a number of parasitic items which he thereafter does not himself control, with which he charges the responsibility of amusing him and rescuing him from danger. And he charges these things with that responsibility and gives them no further direct attention. But he feeds them continuous energy. Any energy output he has, immediately and automatically goes onto various lines which goes into automatic machinery. | Now, when he could do that, he’d say, “Well yeah, yeah, I can drop that dime.” But in view of his tremendous agreement and so forth, you’re actually going to get this guy noplace until you get him exteriorized. I swear you can audit him with steam shovels and you could pull him apart with wild horses and you could do all sorts of things to him and you actually wouldn’t change his survival rate very much, because the mock-up called the body is what is establishing his survival rate. And he’s perfectly willing to sit there and audit it out of existence, but he isn’t willing to leave it. See, he’ll audit it out of existence-he will, he’ll practically consume it. And yet, here we have the problem. | |
And just as we get a monk-ridden Russia of 1912, so we get an automaticity-ridden preclear. Any energy, any thought, any idea, any attention he might give the environment, goes automatically and primarily into his automatic bank so that he himself becomes his own other-determinism. And all of this production becomes other-determinism, so that everything around him actually becomes other-determinism. And just as a government will find more and more things to police so that it can hire more and more police, so automatic machinery will find more and more danger so that it can have more and more energy. | Now, what do we do with this fellow, then? We just run this formula which I gave you on him and we emphasize the penalty and the rewards. Well, what are some of the key ones? We’ve got that whole band there and you notice I put Beingness just below Knowingness on that band-it properly belongs there. (I’ve been omitting it mostly to stay consistent with earlier releases.) And so you can put anything of any one of these. But you know what an auditor does when he starts in to audit this? He skips the ones that ought to be audited on him. So I’m going to have to tell you one of them that you’d sure as hell better put in and that’s ridicule. Most auditors, if they didn’t have that driven home hard, would sit there and audit and omit it for months on end. It kind of doesn’t exist | |
You understand that he has granted beingness, then, to a thing which is now senior to himself and which can tell him what is dangerous. And so he gets the most peculiar ideas about what’s dangerous. | People run around talking about having been betrayed-there’s a certain nobility in having been betrayed. It at least admits that you have an identity, but this is not true of ridicule. People pull all this stuff in on themselves because they want to be betrayed rather than ridiculed. | |
Now, let’s take what happens to automatic machinery. It gets set up, it gets depended 7 upon and, at the moment it’s entirely depended upon, it goes into disuse and decay. But the lines stay there and the entire makeup and pattern is stagnant. But if any sudden energy gets fed to it, the machinery, in a sort of a crumpled-up, chewed-up fashion will try to go back into operation again. So we get weird things happening in a bank. | Now, what is the mechanical action of ridicule? It is having something pulled away from you and held away from you, that’s all. And that, actually, will engender the emotion “ridicule”-have something pulled away from you without your consent and held away from you. | |
Explained on this basis and understood on this basis, the preclear-as a social unit-a preclear will make a lot more sense to an auditor. He has set up enormous numbers of police and governing units to which he is furnishing energy continuously, all of which are senior to himself, all of which have the postulate in them that “they must resist all effects,” all of which have the postulate in them that “they must either mock-up or unmock real or imagined dangers.” | Now, when this has been done to people quite a bit, they have a lot of trouble exteriorizing. Why? Because the auditor is trying to separate them and the body, in other words, pull something away from them and impose a little space. So otherwise-determined space or the imposition of space otherwise determined than by themselves becomes highly antipathetic to them. So ridicule is the most fearful of these and fear ranks next. When I say “ridicule,” I’m also saying you put “contempt” and any of the other synonyms for ridicule. But fear is next in line in importance. And you just plain better beat that one to death, that fear. | |
Now, he gets confused between all of this automatic machinery and the macrocosm-the greater machine, you might say. So he begins to fight shadows and just as politicians and peasants will go running around saying, “Down with glob-globism! And up with puff-wuffism! And today we’re all Spoodledorfs! And tomorrow we’ll be something else,” so your preclear is on a continuous crusade against his own automatic machine-continuous crusade-and there is his internal world. | Now, those are the two most important penalties. The whole rank, you know, has some value, but those are quite important-important enough for the auditor ordinarily to miss them. So just set them up there as unmissable and you got it. | |
Crusade following crusade, each one leaving in its path the debris of old broken up automatic machinery and newly set up automatic machinery, which again may fix it so it never happens again. So we get his survival pace being more and more hectic and changing more and more. | Now, let’s go into the next bracket, which is the reward. What do you suppose the reward is? The reward is taste (they think), smell and sex and respect. | |
For instance, he can’t stay in one spot anymore. He has to move from one spot to another spot, he cannot be content wherever he sits, because there’s a machine that tells him it’s dangerous to sit there. He eventually becomes so thoroughly equipped with machines that tell him it’s dangerous to sit there, all of which being contrary and otherwise, to which he has delivered any power which he himself has, that he’s doing his remembering, his prediction, his action, his postulates and everything else automatically. And all of these things are his randomity. In other words, he’s set them all out as his enemy. Of course, he can’t predict what they’re going to do next, so he’s in a state of anxiety and continual nervous tension and fear and so on. | There is an emotion called “offended deity” that almost anybody will fall for as you process them. Oh, that’s a gorgeous one. Offended deity and “offended deity as a thetan,” you see? People didn’t recognize that they were it. And next thing you know, why, they had to zap somebody to prove it. And the next thing you know, why, there they were in a body and the next thing you know, there they were guarding something. | |
Now, the best person in this society is in horrible shape. It’s fantastic to find somebody-the thought, for instance today, of finding somebody who is perfectly happy, who is content with what he’s doing, is perfectly calm, who knows really what’s going to happen tomorrow, who gets a lot of fun out of doing the things which he’s doing and doesn’t have a worry in the world-this character has gradually drifted back into mythology. You can look for him in vain. | “That’s mine,” they start out saying, you know. “That temple is mine.” Or “That wood is mine. Now, you come around here and you’re playing around with a deity. Oh, you don’t recognize that this wood has a god, huh? Oh? Rurrrh.” | |
This fellow by the name of Diogenes-a slave that went around trying to find an honest man, I understand. Actually, he was merely going around trying to find the answer. And your preclear will practically never lie in the category of this lost and mythical figure who was perfectly happy merely to be a pretense of being. | And you know that almost anybody walking up and down the street suffers from that at the tiniest provocations. You know, an automobile passes too fast and roars loudly or something like that-offended deity. And of course, the fellow has it suppressed. He knows he’s not a god, he knows he hasn’t anything to protect, he knows he’s nobody. He has to know all this, otherwise he’s sure that he’ll get his ears knocked in. So we get offended deity, respect-that’s more or less in the same bracket-and sex and taste and smell. Also sound and also the ability to put out sound and pull in sound. And also love and “youse got it.” | |
You know, to be happily pretending to be is very senior to arduously trying to be. Because of course, you’re never going to be anyway. You can be by postulate. You can say, “I am so-and-so” and just let it go at that. And an hour or so later, why, you say, “Well, I change my mind now, I am somebody else.” And a lot of people get a sort of a sneaky, horrible feeling that they aren’t being sincere, you know, and that it’s all kind of a wicked pretense the way they’re going about this and this is very bad. Well, if they’ll just increase that symptom up to a point of where they just know they’re pretending, they’re real happy. | Now, the others are important, of course, and you rank them up and down, you’ll find one preclear is more set on one thing than on another. But those are the important penalties and rewards for being inside a body. | |
Now, a little kid is beaten into agreeing with the past. You know, he doesn’t tell the truth-pardon me, he doesn’t tell something unless it really happened. Well, that in essence, is the damnedest thing that ever happened to anybody, that’s really getting crowded in, so that you start running your preclear and he comes up with true incidents rather than imaginary ones. Well, that’s about as unhealthy as you can get. | The truth of the matter is, a fellow can manufacture all this stuff, he can manufacture it with considerable ease. So let’s not play too much pat-a-cake with our preclear when the preclear says-you say, “All right. Now put some fear in that wall.” | |
You mean, the only past you’ve got is the one which happened? Incredible! But you mean, if you say, “I went to Europe yesterday,” you’ve got to have steamer tickets? Why, it’s very nice to have a past which took you on a tour of Warner Brothers yesterday. | “Well, I’m not sure I’m doing it. And I don’t think I can do that anyway” and so forth. | |
A fellow who is in good shape can sit down and contemplate the wonderful time he had yesterday out on Gary Cooper’s ranch. He was in New York yesterday, see, he was not in California. But he can simply sit down and contemplate this and what a wonderful time he had. Now, he doesn’t believe that he was there, beyond postulating that he was there so that he can enjoy it. See, he doesn’t believe he was there-he can change his mind any moment and be in someplace else yesterday, it’s a perfectly healthy frame of mind. But this, when set up automatically, becomes psychosis. | Well, let’s just keep at it, keep at it, keep at it. Sometimes you’ll find out it’s possible for him to put fear in something he’s holding in his hands. Sometimes you can put fear of him or his fear of something else or the fear of a notebook for his knees or something close in-you know, like that, and it works better. | |
See, it’s all set up automatically and then chosen out as randomity, “Where was I yesterday?” And the fellow has an automatic machine that tells him where he was yesterday. It’s never going to tell him the truth any more than a politico is ever going to tell a peasant the truth-simply because it doesn’t know. That’s its first limitation. And so the fellow gets delusion. | Okay. That’s the way you do-just round and round and round. But, by golly, don’t you forget spaces and times. “Now put fear in 1812.” | |
Well, it goes down from only uttering the truth, down below that, to only knowing the truth as a delusion. In other words, the only truth is a delusion. A big delusion shows up, you see, and then that’s true. But what actually happened, that isn’t true anymore. | If that makes you feel blank, don’t wonder about it too much, huh? Time and havingness. So you’re actually stretching some havingness into the subject of time. And when you start putting some havingness in terms of Einotingness and Effortingness and so forth into times . .. “Now let’s get an arduous 1732. Now let’s get a thinkingness in 2008.” | |
So it goes down from a totally postulated reality. And that’s good enough to have a complete reality-you just postulate a reality exists and that’s good enough. It goes down from then, as it enters into an agreement with the MEST universe, agreement with everybody else, that we will only say that what happened, happened. Only things we say happened really did happen, you know? The truth. That’s what people define the truth as, God help us all. They define the truth as that, they give it that limitation. You know, that’s fantastic, you come to think about it, that that is truth-whether or not you did what you said you did. That’s usually the public definition of truth. That is not the definition of truth—that’s very warped. | The preclear is going to ask you, “How do you do this?” You say, “I don’t know. How are you doing it?” He’ll tell you. | |
It goes down from there into-that is to say, MEST universe happening-the motion of the particles wwthe motion of the particles and that’s the only motion the particles had. It goes from there into “the motion of the particles, yesterday, might have been otherwise, so we begin to doubt what happened yesterday.” Because, what? We’ve set up the whole past as an automatic machine. Something mysteriously out there is going to remember for us and feed us the datum as to what happened yesterday. Why? Because we’re no longer willing to cause what happened yesterday. | Every once in a while, he’ll find out that the past is just to the left of him and the future is just slightly to the right of him. The future, of course, is to the right of people because they read in that direction. The future of any book is to the right and below. And they get the idea the future is over in that direction. | |
There’s no reason why you shouldn’t cause today what happened yesterday. There was a part of the track before-а very early track before time got all set into an exact motion, before everybody got very tightly agreed on everything. There was a part of the track where yesterday could just as easily be tomorrow and really happen, because that’s just a matter of postulate. Time basically, of course, is just a matter of postulate and then becomes a matter of agreement. | You ask somebody who’s exteriorized, by the way, to “be the past, present and future,” he’ll be locales around his body for a litde while and then all of a sudden say, “Hey, wait a minute-wait-wait-wait-wait-that’s not right.” He’ll say, “Let’s see, now, where is 1832?” “Well,” he’ll say, "I know where 1832 was, it was just over Pennsylvania. You know. You know. Well, that’s a direction from here, but it isn’t there now.” | |
So your preclear starts sliding down the rope on this same level. And in the early track, it was all right for somebody to say, “Well, I am now mocking-up this bear and this bear is going to eat all of your mock-ups and you and so forth.” | “Well,” you say, “what are you going to do about it?” | |
And the guy says, “All right. You’re dead yesterday, your bear is dead yesterday.” And sure enough, there was no bear there to eat up the mock-ups, because he was dead yesterday, you see? | And he says, "Well, I’ll mock it up or something.” | |
And you could tell somebody to die yesterday or “You are now in next week.” And we get this science fiction-that’s the impulse that’s back of these science-fiction things-to postulate time. They try to time travel and so forth in order to get around and try to escape the ardures of an agreed-upon motion of particles. | You say, “Well, put some fear in it.” | |
Well now, every time you’ve set up the past to be an agreed-upon thing, that means it’s Ю no longer under your control, the past is no longer under your control. This is unthinkably obtuse, by the way, to have a past that isn’t under your control. Now you have a past only if somebody else agrees you have a past. So we’d have people going around saying, “Let’s see, what did I do last Tuesday? Do you remember where I was last Tuesday?” “Oh yes. Yeah. Oh, we were down around at the restaurant, weren’t we?” “Oh yes, we really were at the restaurant yesterday” and so on. | Well, he’ll put some fear in something. And more doggone data and knowingness will turn out into his lap on the subject of time without you explaining anything, which is why I’m not explaining it to you. But don’t neglect it. It’s very educational, I assure you. It will turn up your knowingness no end. | |
Well, when you start Straightwiring somebody on actual incidents, you really do start breaking up this agreement with the past particles, because you start springing them with locks simply by locating the past. You locate it and find it nowhere positioned and so therefore, you become happy about it. But that has a limitation and it can be run too long like any other such technique to a point where it actually manufactures more agreement than before and you’re agreeing much more thoroughly with the past. | All right. Now what preclear do you use this on? Oh, you think it’s just an interiorized preclear, huh? Well, this is one of the best exercises that you can possibly do to stabilize a guy as a Theta Clear and is the stabilizing exercise of a Theta Clear. And until you’ve beaten that one into a fine-feathered froth, why, you haven’t done much with your preclear. So inside or outside, you’ve got to do this before you consider this case a Theta Clear and before you consider that the case will be stably exteriorized. Otherwise, he’s liable to be out and in and out and in and out and in, because there’s penalties for being out and there’s rewards for being in. | |
Well, the prime trick that everybody pulls is to get everybody to agree to have only a past that they had. Why this is important escapes-it rather evades consideration-why it’s important to have only a past. | And the only penalties, actually, for being out are the penalties of loss. And the only penalties of being in, of course, are the penalties of not having something that’s out. But if a fellow doesn’t like space, why, he’s very happy, you see, to be away from space which is in. No space in a head-he knows that-solid ivory or something. Actually, that’s all there is in a head, is space. | |
Now, I guess you could work this out in a military line on this basis: well, this captain comes back and he said, “Well, we took the company over the hill and we met a whole lot of enemy over there and we had a big battle and so we killed them all dead and that section of the enemy troops is now gone.” And he reports all of this, you see, without having decimated any of the enemy. And they consider, then, that other activities which are immediately taking place depend upon part of the enemy now being missing. And that part of the enemy is not missing and so there’s a miscalculation. | Okay. What is our drill, then, in terms of agreement with the MEST universe? And how do we get over this factor? And every time you’re having trouble with a case, you better sure ask yourself, “Now, how do we get over this factor of agreement with the MEST universe on this technique we’re using?” See that? How do we get over this factor? You must recognize any technique’s possession of and agreement with the MEST universe. | |
Well, what band are you talking about, huh? You’re talking about the effort band, aren’t you. See? As soon as you get into the effort band, you got to have truth. How do you get a preclear into the effort band? You get him to agree with past particles-past particle motions. Because it’s important! Because future calculations are going to be based upon past calculations and therefore a person has to “learn by experience.” And therefore a person gets frozen into certain patterns which must never happen again. | Well, that’s no reason to choose the MEST universe out as your randomity. You just want to get up to a point where you can make a better universe or more MEST universe or something of the sort. But the MEST universe isn’t your randomity just because you don’t want agreement with it. You don’t want agreement or disagreement-you want to have it or not have it at will. Well, that certainly means that it better not worry you too much. | |
And so he winds up by trying to prevent life. And a fellow by the name of Schopenhauer can write a book called The Will and the Idea where he proves conclusively that death is the only possible goal and it should be died as quickly as possible and all life should be blocked from going on further down the track. He proves this very convincingly. | But let’s look over this problem of agreement with the MEST universe. Now, if we just put these into the exact walls and barriers and floors and ceilings and spaces which actually existed, why, this would be an agreement with the MEST universe of stopping perception, wouldn’t it? So his perception is not likely to increase on the drill if we keep agreeing with the exactly arranged, laid out plan which he’s operating on automatically. | |
I am sure there’s many an individual, many a scholar, has read The Will and the Idea and promptly blown his brains out. And by the way, I’m very, very shaky on the title of Schopenhauer’s books and the Germanic philosophy of that time. It’s all a big blur of heavy effort. And every time I try to sort through it, it sort of feels like moving blocks of stone to one side and the other. | So let’s do this: Let’s have walls out further and in closer. And let’s have spaces where the walls are and buildings where other buildings are and streets going where other streets don’t go and let’s put it in other people’s universes. | |
Now, in other words, the only solution becomes a solution of unmock everything. After a fellow has gotten into the effort band, into the truth band and a few delusions start to show up, why, his last resort is unmock everything. Well, of course, if he makes the decision to unmock everything like Schopenhauer did, the inevitable conclusion is he chooses it all out as his randomity and here he goes, here he goes. Everything becomes his randomity. And it becomes him against his bank, as well as him against the world. And we have everything his enemy. | He says, “How do you do that?” | |
Now, it isn’t that everything and all things drift into paranoia. They sometimes drift into multiple paranoia. But this universe is an ace at making this. How there could be any other process of collapse, very hard to figure out. Because one is being pounded continually from 360 degrees if he believes in photons and depends upon photons and is in agreement upon photons and agreement upon reality and the mock-unmock actuality of existence. If he just agreed thoroughly upon this motion-the particles did move in that pattern, they are moving in that pattern, they will move in that pattern-if he’s agreed on this thoroughly, why, he has completely limited his ability to change any of it. | And you say, “I don’t know. Pick out a few. Now put it in the walls in somebody else’s universe.” | |
So you’ve got your preclear sitting there trying to change. How are you going to change him? He won’t change, that’s the one thing he knows he can’t do. Why, he’s in agreement upon all these particles and how these particles exist or they don’t exist. And he knows they’re hitting him 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year, from every quarter of the rainbow. | “How do I do that?” he says. | |
He knows that he is being pounded down smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and that anything he has is Double Terminaled against anything else in the universe, that his mock-ups are discharging against Arcturus, and Arcturus is discharging against his mock-ups because it’s all consecutive space after all. Flows-flows-flows-agreernent-agreement-agreement-agreement-agreement. Well, this fellow has already made the decision that you’ve got to unmock everything and start all over again, somehow. And so he sets all of his unmockers into action. | He’ll try to scout this too, he’ll try to get away from it and get rid of it quickly, like “Well, we’ll only run other people’s universes here for a minute or so. Yeah, I’ve now put it in the walls in somebody else’s universe.” He has not. | |
Now, he’d get away with it except for this one thing-this is why you can’t suddenly postulate you’re Clear and be Clear-is you’ve already postulated that there are a lot of things aren’t going to let you change and these are automatic machines, which to a large degree, are your government. | You say, “How many walls were there? You put it in all those walls, huh? You just filled all the walls of that other person’s universe with fear now? Okay. Take it all out of them and put it in one wall at a time now.” Because this is a dodge and guys will dodge harder on this than anything else. | |
Now, you have the same problem of a preclear deciding to be Clear as you have of a worker out here suddenly deciding not to pay any income tax. The government is going to have something to say about that. And an individual to be Clear would just stop-try to stop feeding energy. | Now, I hate to have to tell you this, but at the moment this is your background music on processing. And I’ve waited this long to give it to you for one excellent reason, is I’ve given it to a couple of other groups. I gave one group very late and they didn’t take too much advantage of it and I gave the other group very, very early and they found this was so hot that they kind of didn’t bother to get very hot on anything else until they really had a brace put on them. So we’ve got this at the end of a lot of theory, rather than at the beginning, because this is the easiest thing in the world. | |
Naturally, a guy stays in for sexual sensation, for good tastes, for mass, for food, sensation of various kinds and he isn’t going to get out if he thinks that means abandoning all sensations. He’ll only get out when he realizes that he can make them, he can make them wherever he is. And if he can make them wherever he is, why, why worry? So he stops worrying. You give him an abundance of sensation, an abundance of thinkingness and that sort of thing. | ||
After you have been processing him for a short time and he isn’t getting any better any faster, you find out that he has been paying the wages of the police quite regularly. | By the time you have finished this, he should be able to take a mock-up of, or an actual ashtray, and have it think out a weighty problem, step by step, and have it actually give him an answer a couple of minutes later without his paying much further attention to it. You should have him, in other words, set up anything as a thinking machine. And this will get him over thinking he has to have his brains in order to figure things out for him, because that’s his main trouble. | |
And you say, “Why are you doing this?” | But in essence, the body is a communication machine. And communication, in essence, Ю is all these things I have named, they’re its component parts. Knowingness, beingness, lookingness, emotingness, effortingness, thinkingness, symbolizingness, eatingness, sexingness. These things are sensation if you put all particles in the effortingness band. So, we have a picture of communication so that you’re remedying communication all the time you’re remedying this. | |
And he says, “Well, you have to do this until you can change.” | Now, you’ll find out very often that you start out a case and you tell him to put some fear in the wall and he’ll put some fear in the opposite wall or something like that. I mean, he just ducks back from any contact with MEST to a remarkable degree. And he puts some fear in something, he gets it full in the face himself. | |
Of course, you can’t change unless you do away with all those police. | All right, how do we put one of these things in brackets? Well, that’s easy. You just have somebody else putting fear in the wall and you feeling it. Putting fear in the wall and them feeling it back. And then have them putting fear in the wall for somebody else than you. And you putting fear in the wall for somebody else. And you work that quite a little bit, by the way, more than you would think. | |
Well, he says that the police are too necessary. | And they say, “Well, where is this other person and where do we put the other person to have him put fear in the wall?” (I’ve had that asked me two or three times by strange preclears.) | |
So you get a circular aspect to processing which, if you don’t know that it exists, the human being appears to be a very mysterious thing to you. He isn’t doing it, that’s the truth. Long ago or right now-you see, long ago and right now are the same period of time to a thetan. He isn’t jammed on the time track, you understand, he’s just observing particles flow and he doesn’t move or age, but the particles do. And yet he gets himself so confused with particles that he believes he moves and ages, but he can move particles and he can move his viewpoint of particles. | And you say, “Well, where do you think he belongs?” | |
All right. Then, as you start to take this fellow apart, why, you’ll just start kicking in automatic machinery, which is inhibiting his being taken apart. Every time you start to unmock some of the machinery, why, he will help you out-he will set some of his unmocking machinery into action. | “Oh, he’s brave, the son of a bitch.” | |
Every time he sets some unmocking machinery into action, of course, you get this, the fact that the bank starts running, madly. | “Well, who do you mean?” | |
Well now, what you validate comes true. That which you fear you become, that which you validate comes true. | “Oh, my grandfather, of course, he’s over there. He’s sitting in the chair just now.”You’ll find out some of the most remarkable things will suddenly start popping up when you start running this in brackets. | |
Now, I told you about stopping sight. Now, some of the simplest exercises are the most effective. | Now, there is background music and this, of course, has a position in your 8-C. But let’s not consider it just as a position in 8-C. This is what you do to get out of trouble. | |
If you’ll look at the front wall now and postulate you’re going to stop your sight on it | Now, when you put Symbolizingness in the walls, you do it in this fashion: have the walls identify him. Because you see that’s the big reward of being in-he has an identity. Well, he’s been naming things for years and years and years-he’s gone on naming things, naming things, indicating things, recognizing things, identifying things and nothing, nothing in terms of MEST has ever identified him, so you have a tendency there to get a stuck flow and a scarcity of identification. | |
Now look at it again and stop your sight on it. | Well now, that’s the technique and this technique is so basic it doesn’t even have a name-this is Scientology, you might say. You make the able more able. Okay, the guy can taste an ice-cream soda. Okay, let’s make him create one and taste it. That’s how far you’re going up. | |
Now stop your sight on it and make it bounce back to you. | But right now, when we’re talking about Theta Clearing, a person had better adequately be able to put sexual sensation in the walls. | |
Now, look at the front wall again and stop your sight on it and make it bounce back to you-your sight. | Now, there’s some interesting little bric-a-brac turns up on this and one of them is - let’s see, what is it? There are several combinations of emotions which produce other emotions-it’s like mixing paint. Well, I tell you, a few of them to try out: put triumph and apathy together in something. And of course, that’s both ends of the wrong kind of a communication line, which is your overt act-motivator sequence. And you put in pain and love and you’ll get sexual sensation. | |
Make a picture of the front wall come back to you, see? Just move it back to you. Now put your vision on the front wall and make the front-stop your sight on it. Now put your vision on the front wall and make the front wall come back to you. [to student] Oh, you don’t like this? | Now, somebody says, “I can’t get sexual sensation,” now, here’s how you approach a gradient scale: put frigidity in the walls. You know, he can’t get sexual sensation right off the bat. All right, let’s put frigidity and other light forms of sexual sensation and you’ll have that nailed down. Okay. | |
Female voice: No. | When a fellow first starts to do it, he thinks he’s draining his own bank in order to do it and he gets rather upset about it and so on. You just keep him doing it and he’ll all of a sudden recognize, “Heck, nobody had this much in storage!” So you do it by volume. | |
Splash. Smash! | Now, don’t forget the “no-nesses” of all these things. Put “no ridicule” in that space. When you first get an inverted case, you start putting no ridicule in that space and he gets ridicule. Just the thought of ridicule gives him ridicule, in other words, his machine is out of control. So you have him put no ridicule and get ridicule and no ridicule and get ridicule and no ridicule and get ridicule. Now put some no ridicule in and he will be able, by then, to get no ridicule in the wall. | |
Female voice: You can feel it! | You see, this fellow is associating so closely that every time he thinks of something he gets it. That’s why I was showing you the facsimile machine, is so you’d understand the automaticity of somatics and you’d understand the automaticity of a lot of these things. And here the mere suggestion of something will set one of these machines off in many cases. So the fellow says “no ridicule” and he gets his ridicule machine. | |
All right. | Once in a while, you’ll run this sort of thing out of a case: Well, he got to this new area and, there, all they were using was facsimiles, so he had to pick up some facsimiles there and use them (that’s what they used to remember with) and that’s what they did there. But he got to this other area and they weren’t doing that, they were doing something else and so on. Customs change from place to place about how one goes about the business of living and procuring and all that sort of thing. | |
Now let’s stop your sight on the front wall. | You’ll get some interesting reactions on this. What did he have to do? He meant what he had to do was set up some new automaticity in order to agree with that culture and agree with the other culture. Now, these sit there as sleepers, these automaticities-they’re abandoned, you see. He no longer feeds them power particularly, till all of a sudden he feeds one power and then you get some interesting result. | |
Now let’s put the front wall back of the front wall—let’s leave this front wall right here, but let’s put a front wall on the other side of it, you know. Well, let’s stop your sight on that other one. | You get into eatingness. And I’ll be a son of a gun if this character-all he can think about is eating people. Well, this isnt anything peculiar, it’s just that while he was in space opera, he used to go down to the market after he’d get in from a long run, borrow some dough from one of his shipmates and go over to the slave market and buy four or five girls and take them up to a hotel room and eat them. Women are very leery about this, this one gets kicked in every once in a while. If you guys don’t believe this, start snarling at a girl sometime like a lion or something, as though you were about to eat her. | |
All right. Now, let’s stop your sight on the other one now. | Now, of course the most savory parts of a guy or a girl, of course, is the thyroid and the glands which are in either side of the abdomen and those are generally picked out first while the person is alive. In other words, [laughter] there’s a lot of-there’s, what you might call a considerable amount of sensation on the track. This society ought to be ashamed of itself, other societies live rather high. | |
Well, let’s stop your sight on the other one and bring a picture of it back to you. | But you’ll kick in these weird automaticities, so expect anything, really, from the preclear. | |
Now let’s stop your sight on that other one. | All right. | |
And, let’s be very critical and precise about where you stop your sight now. You’ve got that other wall on the other side of this front wall here and let’s be very critical about stopping your sight on it exactly. | ||
All right. Bring a picture of it back to you. | ||
All right. Now let’s put another wall-let’s just forget about this wall and the other wall we set up and let’s put another wall at the front wall of this room-let’s put it up there about ten yards further away than this wall. Put another front wall to this room up there and stop your sight on it. | ||
Now stop your sight on it. | ||
And now stop your sight on it. | ||
Now stop your vision so it doesn’t see through that wall. Stop your vision so it doesn’t see through that new wall there. | ||
Now stop your vision again so it doesn’t see through that new wall. Is it getting more solid? | ||
Stop your vision so it doesn’t go through that wall. | ||
Now get how actual that wall is there because it stops your vision. | ||
Get the fact that it must be there because it’s stopping your vision.Get how certain this is. I mean, it just must happen, because you are stopping your vision on it, you see? Anything that’s stopping your vision, then, must be there. | ||
All right. Now just neglect those walls and let’s put a wall out there about a hundred yards and stop your vision on it. | ||
And stop your vision on it again. | ||
And stop your vision on that wall about a hundred yards-just with your MEST eyes. You don’t think they’re otherwise than operating automatically, do you? | ||
Now stop your vision on that hundred-yard wall. | ||
Is it getting some more solid? Should be. | ||
All right. Stop your vision on that wall out there. | ||
And stop your vision on it again. | ||
Now get the fact that it must be there because it’s stopping your vision. | ||
There, it’s proven. | ||
That’s true now! | ||
Male voice: Mm-hm. | ||
All right. Now just look through all of those walls and look through everything there is and see nothing but black space out in front of you with your MEST eyes.2о812 January 1954 | ||
I said “black space” but if you’ll just look through everything, you’ll see blackness. | ||
I don’t have to tell you, you’ll see blackness. | ||
Now stop your vision on that blackness. | ||
Now stop your vision on it again-way out there-а thousand miles or so. | ||
And stop your vision on it again. | ||
And again, stop your vision on it. | ||
Now, get how true it is that you are seeing blackness. Stop your vision on it again. Must be seeing blackness, it’s blackness and it’s stopping your vision, isn’t it? | ||
All right. Let’s look all the way out there and get your vision stopped on the blackness. | ||
Now get your vision stopped by that blackness again. | ||
Now get how true that blackness must be, because it’s stopping your vision, it must be there. | ||
All right. Now look right on through it. | ||
Look right on through it. | ||
Those of you having difficulty, then bore a hole-get an earth borer or a vision borer or something and send it out there and have it bore a hole straight on through so you can look through the hole and don’t see blackness. | ||
All right. Now stop your vision on the front wall again. | ||
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You feel a little constricted all of a sudden? | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Well... | ||
Female voice: Push it back. | ||
Maybe you don’t feel quite so big or tough. | ||
All right. Now let’s put a wall one foot from in front of your face. | ||
Now stop your vision on it. | ||
Stop your vision on this wall a foot from your face. | ||
Now stop your vision on it with a characteristic. | ||
Now stop your vision on it very solidly. | ||
Now stop your vision on this wall a foot from your face and flinch from it. | ||
Now stop your vision on it and flinch from it. | ||
Now get how surprising it is that that wall is appearing there. | ||
Get “This is a very surprising wall, how did it get there?” Well, get how phenomenal this is. | ||
And there it is. | ||
Female voice: Exactly. | ||
Okay. Let’s stop your vision on that wall a foot from your face again. | ||
And let’s stop your vision on it solidly. | ||
And now let’s push it away with your vision. | ||
Push hard on it with your vision-that wall a foot in front of your face-just push hard on it with your vision. | ||
Now determine that you’re going to move it away. | ||
All right. Now determine that it’s come back again and you’re going to move it away. | ||
Now just look through it and see the front wall of the room. | ||
Look through it and see the front wall of the room. | ||
[pounding] Get how nice that front wall is. | ||
Now get how nice it is of the front wall to tell you where you are. | ||
Now have it identify you and call you by name. | ||
Okay. Did you learn anything about perception? Hmm? You get a little something about perception? | ||
Well, now if you want to keep up that exercise a lot longer than I’m willing to sit here and run it, I mean, it’s just for a demonstration—you could move a preclear straight into the effort band. And I dare say a few of you felt like you were being moved into the effort band. | ||
Did you get that feeling? | ||
Audience: Mm-hm. | ||
Well, you see the idiocy of moving the wall that’s in front of your face? You get that as actually an idiotic thing to try to do? To move that wall in front of your face? Well, it’s gone right now-should be. It’s gone if you looked through it. | ||
Well, how do you look through it? You simply look through it by saying, “I’m now looking through it.” That’s awfully simple, isn’t it? | ||
Similarly, grabbing on to things and letting go of them, when done by effort (you know, you grab on to something and then you let go of the something, with effort), is equally idiotic. And you will find a great many preclears theta-wise will exteriorize, grab ahold of something and then try to let go of it. | ||
How do they try to let go of it? They try to let go of it by unfastening the beam from it that they have attached to it. You see that? They try to unfasten it, as though it had fasteners or so on. They mock-up a hand or something and they close this over something and then they try, with motion, to free it off of the object which they have grasped. Well, this is fantastic and fabulous. Because the only way they’ll get it off is just saying, “I am now letting go of it” or to feel straight through it. | ||
One of the best ways to let go of anything is just to push right on through it, with a beam, as a thetan. You say, “Now, I’m going to let go of it.” If you have an inclination to stick to it, why, just push through it and feel another somethingness just beyond it It won’t be there anymore. Because stopping effort is actually condensed stopping perception. You see, perception is just fewer particles than effort. Effort is a heavier mass of particles, that’s all. | ||
And so, you try to handle particles by pushing particles, you get the automaticity agreement on which the MEST universe is based: that particles move by pushing particles or by pulling particles or by particles influencing particles. And that’s the only way you could set up the machine so it would keep on running, by the way. You could rack your brains in vain to find out how you would get something to run totally automatic and it would certainly have to move by its own volition, wouldn’t it? | ||
So if something were to move by its own volition, it could only move by its own substance and will and if its will merely consisted of particles and the laws of particles themselves, then it could only move or change by the laws of particles themselves. And so you get conservation of energy. | ||
Conservation of energy would be, in itself, the end product of anything that was set up of particles, unless you came along and looked through it, having set it up. | ||
Now, there’s the fellow who can walk through a wall. You know, he just gets up with his body and walks through a wall. There’s a fellow who can levitate, you know, he just goes off the deck. Well, he certainly had better get a good idea of how he’s perceiving a body and a good idea of his perception agreements with others before he does this. | ||
Now, people who aren’t dug down into it or mired into perception agreements don’t have any difficulty doing this. But those who have agreed and agreed and agreed and agreed and agreed that particles are particles, and only particles can move particles, thereafter themselves begin to act like a particle, which is to say, they don’t walk through a wall. Particles don’t go through walls, so therefore they can’t go through a wall. Well, they’ve agreed they’re a particle. | ||
Another symptom of this is they have agreed that they are a symbol. Now, when you defined a symbol some time ago, you remember now, that a symbol was an idea which was enwrapped in a mass of energy which had mobility. Remember that? | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Well, that defines a particle, too, doesn’t it? | ||
Male voice:Quite amazing. | ||
You say, “This is a particle of sodium.” Well, sodium carries with it a certain idea, it has a chemical idea. It will do various things chemically. And then you can be very learned and come along and examine it and discover what idea is concealed within it. Now, this is very, very fine, I mean, it’s sort of a cone inverting in order to study the fact that it is a cone. After you’ve set this particle of sodium up and you’ve agreed that it is sodium and you have agreed then, immediately, out of your own automaticity, that it has certain properties, then you go back and discover what properties the sodium has in order to separate the sodium. | ||
Well, you get so arduously involved in particles acting on particles that you forget, very easily, that all you had to say was “There is some sodium, now it will explode.” AU you had to do was fix the idea of an explosion inside a particle and you would have had a chemical that would explode. | ||
Or we fix a particle there which has the idea of-it has in it the postulate that it can absorb or put into solution other particles. You have a solvent in other words, this is a solvent particle. It doesn’t have to have a position on the valence chart but, to put it in there thoroughly, it has to be in agreement with those things on which it’s going to operate and act, at least temporarily, but it doesn’t have to knot» more than that. | ||
Now, what I’m trying to do with “y’all” is to give you a clear enough view, on a simple enough plane so that you’ll actually unknow data and perform on basic law. You see that? And your letting-go process is letting go of data. I’m not, contrary to what you think, trying to fill your minds with data. I’m trying to demonstrate to you that a lot of the data which you have has a common denominator. By giving you various patterns and comparisons and so forth, you see here that a lot of data has a common denominator and therefore is kind of useless as a big class of stuff which has enormous importance and authority over you. I’m trying to give you authority over data, authority over symbols, rather than simply knock apart all symbols. | ||
When you figure out the amount of bank you’re feeding, automatically, in order to have the amount of stuff around you that you have and with the amount of things that you can agree with and so on, why, don’t then ask yourself why you don’t appear to be very powerful. Because if you’ve granted power to everything under the sun and it has never turned around and granted any power to you, at least you have a stuck flow. | ||
So, let’s show you another very basic process. | ||
Let’s get the upper right-hand corner of the room up here, let’s have it grant you power-you, a thetan. | ||
Now have the upper left-hand corner grant you power. | ||
Now let’s have the floor grant you strength. | ||
Now let’s you grant the Sun power. | ||
Now let’s you grant these walls the ability to remain in the shape of a parallelepiped, which is what the shape is here. | ||
Now let’s grant the floor the right to be flat. | ||
Let’s grant the ceiling the right to be a ceiling. | ||
Let’s get the lamps-you grant the lamps the right to shine and light up the room. | ||
Now let’s do that one again. Let’s grant those lamps the right to light up the room. | ||
And let’s do that again, let’s grant the lamps the right to light up the room. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
And let’s do it again. | ||
Now let’s grant those lamps the right to light up the room. | ||
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Now let’s forget that we have. | ||
Now let’s grant the lamps the right to light up the room. | ||
And forget that we have. | ||
Now let’s grant each one of those lights the right to light up the room-all four of them separately, one at a time-and then forget that we have, each one. | ||
Do it again, in rotation. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
Let’s do it again. | ||
And let’s do it again. | ||
Now let’s grant them, one after the other, the right to light up the room for other people. | ||
And continue it. | ||
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Now let’s grant each one in rotation the right to light up the room for other people and then each time we grant it, then postulate that we’ve now forgotten it. | ||
Just go around the four and start back at the first one again, go around. | ||
Now let’s grant other people the right to grant the right for the lamps to shine. | ||
Pick out specific other people present. | ||
All right. Now, let’s pick out specific people present to grant you the right to grant those lamps the right to shine. | ||
voice: Uh-uh. | ||
Somebody says he wouldn’t do it. | ||
Person after person. | ||
All right. Now, let’s you grant those lamps the right to shine and then forget you’ve done it. | ||
Now grant the power company the right to put juice in to get the lamps to shine. | ||
Now grant the mining company the right to dig up fuel for the power company to use to grant the lights to shine. | ||
Now grant the Sun the right to deposit fuel in the earth for the mining company to dig up, to sell to the power company to burn, to grant the right for the lamps to shine. | ||
Now grant the Sun the right to shine. | ||
And grant Earth and the Sun the right to have space between them. | ||
Now grant to somebody else the right to grant to the Sun and Earth the right to have space between them. | ||
And just pick various other people, each one. | ||
All right. Now pick out other specific people present to grant you the right to grant the Sun and Earth the right to have space between them. | ||
You okay? Okay. | ||
EXTERIORIZATION- LECTURE ANDDEMONSTRATION | ||
--Lecture 16 (continued) - Disc 19 How’s your perception? Have you had any perception change? | ||
Audience: [various responses] Yeah! | ||
Male voice: The Sun came out. | ||
The Sun came out, huh? | ||
Audience: Yeah. | ||
Have you had any perception change? | ||
Audience: [various responses] | ||
Uh-huh. Anybody been left blind or anything? | ||
Audience: [various responses] | ||
All right. Anybody’s perception better than it was? | ||
Audience: Oh, yes. | ||
Okay. | ||
Why don’t you be a thousand miles back of your chair. | ||
Now grant your right to your body to be a thousand miles in front of you. | ||
Now have your body grant the right to you to be a thousand miles in back of it. | ||
Now pick out somebody else to grant you the right to be a thousand miles in back of your body. | ||
And just pick out other people. Same thing. | ||
Now pick out other people in this group to grant you the right to be absolved from all responsibility in case something happens to your body while you’re a thousand miles behind it. | ||
All right. Now grant this right to certain other people in the group. | ||
Now grant the right to certain members of the group to be free. | ||
Now get certain members of the group granting you the right to be free. | ||
Now get certain people in the group granting the right to certain other specific people in the group, to be free. | ||
Now have certain people in the group grant you personally, as a thetan, the right to survive. | ||
Now you grant certain people in the group the right to survive, as thetans. Now have certain thetans in the group specifically granting certain other thetans in the group the right to survive. | ||
Okay. Be a thousand miles behind your body. Grant your body the right to be a thousand miles in front of you. | ||
Now grant other people present the right to be a thousand miles in front of you. | ||
Okay. Now, be where you please. | ||
Contact the two back corners of the room and find no corners. | ||
Now put a couple of corners about a thousand miles out and find those. | ||
Okay. Be where you please. | ||
End of session. | ||
Okay, now what’s the score here? Anybody exteriorize with a little more certainty? A tiny bit more certainty? Good. | ||
Yeah? | ||
Female voice: Aren’t they exteriorizing when they get the feeling of being out and then all of a sudden, boom, their body is there? What’s that? Does that mean they snap back into the body? | ||
Well, you’ve hit a line of some sort. | ||
Femalevoice: Well,lsnappedinandlfeltlikelwasoutand, boom, my whole body was there, boom! Backin. | ||
That’s what we call the “yo-yo effect.” | ||
Female voice: Yeah. I get what it means. | ||
You get out to a certain distance, then energize some lines and they collapse. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Body must have a somatic you’re triggering. | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
What’s the somatic you’re triggering? | ||
Female voice: Well, it runs from here right down to the bottom of the spine. | ||
Well, that’s fine. Put a gold ribbon from a hundred feet behind you to your body. | ||
Female voice: Okay. | ||
Put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Put another gold ribbon from a hundred feet behind you to your body. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Another one. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Another one. | ||
Female voice: All right. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Be five feet behind your chair. | ||
Female voice: Well, I have gold ribbons. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Now be five feet behind your chair. | ||
Female voice: I have a feeling of breeziness in back. | ||
You still yo-yoing? | ||
Female voice: No, I didn't snap. | ||
Didn’t snap. All right. Let’s put another gold ribbon from five feet back of your body to the back of your body and connect it this time. Wrap it around your neck or something. | ||
Female voice: Ifeel like the body is submerged in a burningfluid of some kind. | ||
Okay. | ||
Now let’s wrap another gold ribbon-a very thick one this time, from five feet back of your body to around your neck. | ||
Female voice: Okay. | ||
Now let’s put a dot of light at the far end of it. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Now let’s grant beingness to the dot of light at the far end. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Now let’s be at the far end. | ||
Female voice: Hm. | ||
Did you make it? | ||
Female voice: I hear a bone cracking there in the head. | ||
Yeah, all right. Let’s be five feet back there. | ||
Female voice: Okay. | ||
Now let’s put a burning body, flames and all, out in front of you. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Exteriorization: Lecture and Demonstration Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Throw it away and put another one there. | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Get it burned to a crisp now. | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Okay, now let’s be five feet back there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Now pat the body on the head and say, “Poor body.” | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Okay. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Be where you please. | ||
Female voice: Thank you. | ||
4 You bet. | ||
This yo-yo effect is just-there’s a constant somatic on the body, you see? And every time somebody goes outside, it requires a little different line setup, he’s using lines on the body, you see? And so it energizes the lines and in he comes. | ||
I should say something about that right now. There are two types of lines that are used, one is a pressor line and the other’s a tractor line. | ||
Now, a tractor is a condensing or collapsing line. See, a tractor, if energized, would bring two points together. A and В would get closer together if a tractor line were between A and B. | ||
A pressor line, if energized, would put A and В further apart. And a thetan, at this stage of the game, has gotten sloppy about what kind of lines he uses. He just puts on a line and he leaves it up to automaticity to whether it’s a tractor beam or a pressor beam. | ||
Now, the dispersal case that does a bunk for Arcturus is energizing a pressor beam which is extending, the moment it’s energized. | ||
And a tractor-a fellow who is just sort of automatically putting a tractor beam on the body as he goes out of it or hits a tractor beam, of course, the moment that is energized, he slaps back into the body again. So he’s on a collapsed terminal basis. And snap, back he comes. All right. | ||
Now, that’s the way you got into the body in the first place-you put a tractor beam on a body and the body felt pain and it energized and in you went. It moved you, you didn’t move it. All right. | ||
This becomes an elementary problem, then, in whether A and В are being pushed apart or pulled together. Now, the yo-yo effect is the fellow who goes out and snaps in and goes out and snaps in and goes out and snaps in and goes out and snaps in and after a while, he gets discouraged and just stays in, unless he resolves it or it’s resolved for him. | ||
Then the other fellow is the “do a bunk” case. The case that does a bunk simply keeps going, you see. You say, “Be three feet back of your head” and a couple of seconds later, as I say, he’s passing Arcturus-he’s on his way. Well, he’s hit a pressor beam setup rather than a tractor beam setup. And so, instead of slapping back into the body, he just continues on out of it, zoom! | ||
Both of these are the inability of the thetan to position things in space from a stationary point. He can’t maintain his own stationariness-other things remain stationary, he doesn’t That’s the first problem wrong with it and the other is the simple mechanical problem that either one-whether he does a bunk for Arcturus or slaps back in-betokens a current and chronic somatic which the thetan is holding in abeyance. He’s holding both sides of every somatic, by the way. | ||
But he’s holding this one off, he’s preventing something from happening, you see? And the second he’s five feet back of his head or three feet back of his chair or a thousand miles behind himself or something, he’s no longer actively engaged in keeping a somatic from occurring. So the somatic occurs at that moment, energizes the beam-you know, a round circuit back to-he energizes the beam and in he goes or out he rushes, whichever way it is. And both of those are the problem of a chronic somatic on the body, the body must at that moment be in pain. Got that? | ||
You just simply solve the chronic somatic to some degree and your boy or your girl is immediately a little more stable. And you go on solving it on that basis and, pretty soon, all gets very smooth indeed. The mechanics of Theta Clearing are quite simple. | ||
All right. As I was talking about before, who got a better exteriorization certainty? | ||
Audience: [various responses] | ||
Good. | ||
And you notice, any one of these exercises is all pounding away at the same thing: we’re undoing the automaticity which keeps him nailed down in his head and holds him powerless. | ||
Now, a lot of people have unmocking machinery which unmock them. “I’m not going to be here. I’m not going to be visible.” And you don’t have to really take much of this into account, but you can spot any of this machinery on an E-Meter. It’s fascinating what an E-Meter will do when it is fed, by the preclear himself, automatic machinery which he guesses might be around. But he won’t look at automatic machinery which is completely collapsed upon him. | ||
Now, the individual that’s tried to avoid terminal В or terminal E on the communication line-the individual who has tried to avoid this, prevented it from happening, has of course had it collapse upon him, because the only thing that’s ever going to keep it away from him is him. So the fellow who is trying to keep it from collapsing upon him is trying to move it away or hold it away. | ||
Well, he can postulate it away, but he can’t hold it away. Because energy-the second that you use energy to handle energy, you’re into the mass agreement of the MEST universe. Well, you can get into it and get out of it with great ease when you know what you’re doing. But the initial stages of the game when the fellow is in the body, dependent upon the body, you ask him to separate the two terminals-one, himself, a thetan with mass, and a body with mass—and he can’t impose space upon two terminals, boww! | ||
Well now, it’s a funny thing, but one of the postulates solved when run in a bracket, that does a lot for this, is quite simple-it’s, “It’s impossible to communicate.” Or “All communications are on the same point” Now, both of those assist exteriorization, both of them. | ||
Let’s have a guy just mock-up or get the idea of a flock of Western Union messages all on the same spindle and keep adding messages to the spindle. Then have him add a message from New York which is received in San Francisco. And have him compound this by putting New York on the spindle and San Francisco on the spindle. Make him scramble the geographical locations of Earth. Make him put the Washington Monument on the Empire State Building. | ||
Now, there are many techniques which do this covertly. The best of them are those which don’t do it covertly, they simply do it. | ||
I’ll give you an example of that now. | ||
Pick up San Francisco and stack it on New York. | ||
Now pick up Washington, DC and stack it on New York. | ||
Now stack Chicago on New York. | ||
Now Los Angeles on New York. | ||
Now let’s take the whole pile and put them on Reno. | ||
Now let’s put that whole pile on Seattle. | ||
Now let’s take Alaska and put it on top of the pile. | ||
Now let’s take Florida and put it on top of the pile. | ||
Now let’s let go of the pile. | ||
Now let’s be very orderly and put them all back in their proper positions. | ||
Male voice: They snap back in theirproper positions. | ||
Well, that’s good. Put them all in the pile again and make them snap back into their proper positions, see. | ||
Now put them all in a pile again and put them back in their proper positions. | ||
A beautiful example of the automaticity of terminals he just brought up: they all snap back to their proper positions. Well, what snapped them? Well, the only guy there is-that’s a beautiful motto for you, by the way: the only person sitting there is the preclear. All else is dross and delusion. After he gets to be an Operating Thetan, it becomes rather questionable ■who is sitting there, but that’s all right. Okay? | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Okay. The collapsing terminal effect: “I cannot communicate” is both terminals are on the same unit. Or they are so infinitely wide apart that we couldn’t possibly bring them together or stretch a line between them. See, the tractor beam and the pressor beam. | ||
Now, do you know that there are some thetans so far from a body that are running it-I know somebody present is going to categorize himself incorrectly in this category-they are so far from the body, they are so infinitely far from the body, so many billions of light-years from the body that it’s almost an incalculable distance, running it. They can’t get any closer. They have a funny feeling about it, they don’t particularly like it. | ||
They are in the exact reverse condition of the fellow nailed in a body. Now, just as a fellow can be nailed in a body and doesn’t know it, so can a fellow be nailed a thousand light-years out there and not know it. But sooner or later, you’ll run in to an incident-the fellow will suddenly remember it or something-where he was a long way from the body and he went down to rescue it, something on this order. | ||
In other words, it’s just as peculiar to be pried and debarred out of a body as it is to be nailed down in one, and both conditions can exist. Between the two, however, the most frequent one is the fellow who is nailed down in one and that is so much more often the case that you can almost neglect the other condition. | ||
All right. Exteriorization, as a problem, is an interesting problem in automaticities. And the automaticities most intimately concern communication terminals and masses, that’s the most fascinating of them. | ||
Now, if you could get somebody to disabuse himself of the need of mass, that alone will solve a lot of exteriorizations. But if you get over the balderdash and the mumbo-jumbo about it, you’ll find out the body is a mass. It’s a very heavy symbol. And it’s just a mass and it’s only a problem in masses and it, unfortunately, is both ends of a communication line, it outputs and inputs. | ||
Now, I want to say something about exteriorization. Sometimes you’ll have to exteriorize 7 the guy from several actual bodies. He’s holding on to old energy masses, he’s making these masses all the time, he has automaticities that do this. | ||
And as a matter of fact, you can put a thetan in intimate contact with the masses which are making the other things in the universe, so that he can perceive them too. | ||
For instance, you could put him in contact with the ridge, the floating ridge, which makes fish. This has a practical use, by the way. The fellow eats some bad fish-well, let’s unmock the communication lines to that ridge. And if you strike those communication lines off, the bad fish will no longer make him sick. This sounds very peculiar, maybe, but it has its uses. | ||
Well, it goes even further, but I won’t stretch your credulity there, you can hit the masses that make mountains. And that’s what old Mohammed was trying to stumble around and do. And he’d lost the knack. He was right on the groove, he was in there on the right beat, but it was-the song was just a little old for him and he didn’t quite get the notes. | ||
Instead of standing there looking at the mountain saying, “It will now move,” he should have gone and found the ridge that perpetually recreates mountains (to which he had agreed and which he had a separate mock-up running for) and simply altered that agreement and mock-up. | ||
But he’d have had to have altered the ridge, in terms of agreement with some other people, in order to have gotten the mountain to move perceptically so that the troops could have seen it too. | ||
But this is a simple and elementary problem in Theta Clearing-getting masses to move. | ||
Now, it’s a horrible thought to a thetan, sometime, who is intimately pushing on walls and beating on tables and pounding on his own head and doing other things, that he actually isn’t in contact with a body at all. It’s really much harder to stay in one than get out of one. I’ve exteriorized somebody very rarely (this is not a recommended procedure), merely by making him go outside and then have him stay still-set the body walking and have him stay still. And the body will walk away from him. You can do this with a person who has already been Theta Cleared and he gets a heck of a kick out of it. It’s an SOP 8-0 exercise. But you can-in just exteriorizing people-you can sometimes exteriorize them, just by doing this. You can also make them step back while still in the body and have the body still in front of them-you know, sort of a Mock-up Process. | ||
The most horrible thing you can do to some of the cases that are having trouble-it won’t be very efficacious but-is to have them mock-up the body in front of them and then have the mock-up go through certain motions and have them repeat the motions with the body they’re in. And have them walk the mock-up in front of them forward and walk the mock-up in front of them backwards, all the time aping its motions with their own body. Oh, they get sick and dizzy and so forth because you’ve arbitrarily made them set up a perfect communication system, you see? Here are two bodies and one is doing one thing and the other is doing something. | ||
Automaticity and communication, as you can well guess now-now, you tell me, do those things have an intimate connection? Do they? You damn well couldn’t have an automatic machine unless you had a communication line to it, could you? So the fellow who’s having communication trouble is also having automaticity trouble, isn’t he? And where does the trouble lie? Well, Mr. Anthony, it lies right straight on the communication line. The terminals of that line are too close together. The fellow has become his own automatic machine or some damn foolishness, see? You don’t have to take this apart very much in terms of anatomy, but you’d better know its basic anatomy, which is to say, he’s collapsed terminals with his automatic machinery. | ||
Now, the other fellow who is in horrible condition, who suddenly loses his memory and so forth, has a pressor communication system to his automatic memory machine. Get that pressor beam again. Instead of it throwing him off to Arcturus, it throws the machine off to Arcturus. All of a sudden, his memory is in Arcturus and he has amnesia, but he can’t get a communication on that line anymore. | ||
When a person sets up his memory to be automatic, he’s in a wonderful condition. | ||
Now, the person who is depending upon the facsimile to tell him what happened-Book One aside-I don’t mind being wrong, unlike some people I know. The automaticity of the facsimile appearing when you think the thought is the most chronic eidetic automaticity, that is the eidetic automaticity. And the way you do this-though you can solve this, by the way, you can just sit down and arduously solve it. Like this-there may be faster ways to do it, but this one is very certain, it does solve it. You have the fellow think, for instance, of a letter and then have him put the letter in front of his face. A person who is depending upon eidetic recall: you have him think of a letter and put a letter in front of his face. Then you have him think of an autobus and put an autobus in front of his face. Think of a cat and put a cat in front of his face. Think of a dog and put a dog in front of his face. Think of an orange and put an apple in front of his face. Then get how wrong he is. And then think of the big hotel over here and put a small hotel in front of his face. Get him over having to be so right about the machine. It will make him laugh, it will make him spring it, make him release it. | ||
Anybody doing that, by the way? You just think of something and get the picture. Think of something and get the picture. Think of something and get the picture. | ||
Well, just try this right now: | ||
Think of a cat and get a cat. | ||
Now let go of that. | ||
And think of a dog and get a dog. | ||
Now say, “I am going to get a horse” and get a horse. | ||
Now, did you get a horse by the automatic machine before you could get one there? | ||
Female voice: No, that works. | ||
Second female voice: It seemed a little different when I’m going like that. | ||
Well, the point of it is here, is the preclear is always running slower than his automatic machinery, just as the worker in a society is always running slower than the military or the police. | ||
You see, a person who sets up automatic machinery, inevitably, afterwards, has less power under his own grasp, so of course he’s slower. | ||
So you take the young piano player who sets it up at the age of ten-the scales and so forth-by the time he’s forty, why, he’s got a set-up automaticity on scales, there, which is quite fast But don’t ask him all of a sudden, “How do you run those scales so fast?” Because he’ll fly into a rage or go to pieces or won’t really be able to run scales or something of the sort. | ||
Actually, at ten or at forty, he should simply have been able to run scales. The fastest you’ll ever get is when you're doing it. All right. | ||
Now naturally, that machine is quicker than you are. So let’s be quicker than the machine now. | ||
All right, let’s think of a cow and get a cow. | ||
Now let go of that and say, “I want to remember a car” and get a cat. | ||
Let go of that and say, “I want to remember the sky” and get the Earth. | ||
Female voice: The sky clicked in before I could get the Earth. | ||
Well, just get the Earth there, anyhow. Just ignore the machine. And get how valid you are. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
All right. Now think of an orange and get an orange and get how cute it is of you to do this. | ||
Audience: [various responses] | ||
Now think of a cat and get a cat and think how cute it is of you not to have let go of the orange. | ||
Audience: [laughter]''''Now think of a cow and get a cow and think how cute it is of you to have a cat and the orange. | ||
Now look at all you’ve got there. | ||
Now look straight through it and see the floor. | ||
Remember when I told you to look at the wall up here and see the wall on the other side of it? | ||
Audience: Mm-hm. | ||
Same way with these machines. If you stop your vision on the machine facsimile, of course it’s a very valid facsimile. But if you don’t stop your vision on it, it isn’t. So this time I’m going to ask you to look a foot beyond the picture. | ||
Think of a cat and just look a foot beyond the picture-not at a cat or anything, just look beyond the picture. | ||
All right. Think of a cow. | ||
Think of a horse. | ||
Think of a restaurant. | ||
Think of a hat. | ||
Now, are your pictures as clear as they were? | ||
Audience: Not bad. | ||
They’re getting more clear. | ||
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Well, that s fine. Some people go through that hump. | ||
All right. Now get a chair and then think of a chair. | ||
Now let go of that. And get a bulletin board and think of a bulletin board. | ||
Now let go of that. And get a table and then think of a table. (This is memory running you.) | ||
All right. Let go of that. And get a car and then think of a car. | ||
Let go of that. And get a house and then think of a house. | ||
Let go of that. And get a person and think of this person. | ||
Let go of that. And get another person and then think of this person. | ||
Let go of that. And get another person and think of this person. | ||
Now think of a person and look straight through the person. | ||
Get another person and look through any picture you get. | ||
Now you get a picture of a person that you think of, much further away from you than your automatic picture is. | ||
Now think of a person. | ||
Let go of that. And think of another person. | ||
Get these pictures further away than the automatic picture. | ||
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And you look at your picture-the new picture you just put there, see. Just ignore that other picture. | ||
All right. Let go of that. And get a cat. | ||
And let go of that. And get a car. | ||
Okay. What’s happening with these pictures? Well, let’s make a test of it. | ||
Think of a bulletin board. | ||
Do you get and then not get a bulletin board? | ||
Audience: Yes. [various responses] | ||
Automatically? | ||
Male voice: I have to put it out there first. | ||
You had to put it there? You didn’t get an automatic bulletin board? | ||
Male voice: At first I did and it went out. | ||
Oh, and you put one there? | ||
Male voice: Yeah, Iput it where I wanted it and looked through it. | ||
Okay. Now, we just want to find out what’s happening to eidetic recall here, see. | ||
All right. Now let’s get a bulletin board. | ||
Think of a bulletin board, get a bulletin board. | ||
Think of another bulletin board and get a bulletin board. | ||
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Just said “another”-think of the “same” bulletin board. | ||
Female voice: All right. | ||
Think of the same bulletin board and put it up there again. | ||
Throw it away. Think of a bulletin board and get a bulletin board and throw it away. | ||
Think of a bulletin board, get a bulletin board and throw it away. | ||
Think of a cat, get a cat, throw it away. | ||
Think of a cat, get the same cat and throw it away. | ||
Think of a cat, get the same cat and throw it away. | ||
Think of a cat, get the same cat and throw it away. | ||
All right. Think of a horse. | ||
Put a picture of a horse there. | ||
Okay, throw that away. | ||
Now think of a stove. What happened? | ||
Female voice: It just doesn ’t make any sense. . . | ||
You getting pictures now? | ||
Female voice: I can’t see them . .. | ||
Audience: Yes. | ||
Female voice:. .. I can’t even think of any without seeing it instantaneously. | ||
Are you seeing it very well instantaneously? | ||
Female voice: Yes. | ||
Oh, eidetic recall is working better now? | ||
Audience: Yes. | ||
Well, what do you know! What do you know. It’s working better? | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Otherwise, we’re not influencing the machine any. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. It is getting better. | ||
It’s getting good and fast, huh? | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. Good andfast and good and clear- 3-D. | ||
Getting better, huh? | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
All right. Think of a textbook and get a textbook. | ||
Now put another textbook there, shoving the first one out. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
And another textbook there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
And another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
And another one there, just letting the pieces fall where they may. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
And another one there. | ||
Female voice: Uh-huh. | ||
Now think of a textbook and get another textbook there. | ||
Now think of a textbook and get two textbooks. | ||
Throw it away. Think of a textbook, get two textbooks and throw them away. | ||
Think of a textbook and get two textbooks and throw them away. | ||
Think of a textbook, get two textbooks and throw them away. | ||
Okay. Throw anything away you’ve got there. | ||
Now think of a hat. | ||
Picture of a hat bounce up at you? | ||
Audience: Uh-huh. | ||
Did you get immediately this picture of this hat? | ||
Audience: [various responses] | ||
Good. What are we doing-building some eidetic recall here in the rest of the people? What’s you doing, wakening up the old machine? | ||
Male voice: Yeah. | ||
You very often wake it up and, boy, they kick into a roaring activity before they go on out. | ||
So let’s just think of a hat and get a hat. | ||
Female voice: It’s slowing down now. | ||
Oh, all right. Just throw that away and think of a hat and get a hat. | ||
Throw that away. Now think of a picture and get a picture. | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Throw that away. | ||
Think of a picture and get a picture. | ||
Audience: Mmm. | ||
Throw it away. Think of a picture and | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Okay. Think of a somatic and get a somatic. | ||
Throw it away-let go of it. | ||
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Now think of a somatic and get a somatic. | ||
Let go of it. Think of a somatic and get a somatic. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Let go of it. Think of a somatic and let go of a somatic. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
All right. Think of a somatic and get a somatic. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Throw it away. Now, think of an aberration and get an aberration. | ||
Audience: [coughing yawning] | ||
Let go of it. Think of another aberration and get an aberration. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Let go of it. Think of an aberration and get an aberration. | ||
Audience: [coughing yawning] | ||
Throw it away. Think of an aberration and get an aberration. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
And you back there, you think of a cough and get a cough. | ||
Throw it away. All right. | ||
Now think of an aberration and get an aberration. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Throw it away. Now, think of a nice gruesome aberration and get it | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Throw it away. Think of an illness and get an illness. | ||
Audience: [coughing yawning] | ||
Throw it away. Think of another illness and get it. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Throw it away. Think of another one and get it. | ||
Throw it away. Think of another illness and get an illness. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Think of an illness and get an illness. Throw it away. | ||
Audience: [coughing] | ||
Think of an illness and get an illness. Throw it away. | ||
Any aftereffects occur from that, this is the process that gets rid of • Think of a somatic and get a somatic. | ||
Audience: [yawning] | ||
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Throw it away. Think of another person having a somatic and you get it. | ||
Throw it away. Think of another person having a somatic and you get it | ||
Audience: [yawning] | ||
Throw it away. Think of another person having a somatic, you get it. | ||
Audience: [yawning] | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Think of a somatic and get a somatic. Throw it away. | ||
Okay, think of a picture and get a picture. | ||
Throw it away. Think of a picture, get a picture. | ||
Throw it away. | ||
Okay, think of a hat and get a hat. | ||
Throw it away. Now think of a hat and get a hat and look through it. | ||
All right. Think of a hat and get a trai л | ||
Look through it. | ||
Think of hair and get shoes. | ||
Look through them. | ||
Think of being wrong and be right. Let go of that. | ||
Think of being right and be wrong. Let go of it. | ||
Think of everything disappearing. Have it disappear. | ||
Get it back again and think of everything disappearing and have it disappear. | ||
And get it back again. | ||
Think of you being gone. | ||
And be gone. | ||
Get it back again. | ||
Think of you being present and be present. | ||
Think of you being present and be present. | ||
Think of you being in present time and be in present time. | ||
Think of you being in present time and be in present time. | ||
Think of somebody else being in present time and have them be in present time. | ||
Okay. Now, how did you make out? | ||
Now, let’s make a test on this eidetic recall again. Just test out your eidetic recall now in the next couple of seconds. | ||
How is it? Worse? Better? Same? | ||
Female voice: I thought of a cat and 1 got a horse. [laughter] | ||
It’s fouled up? | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Oh, that’s too bad. | ||
Female voice: I’ve been wrong. | ||
You mean it isn’t being accurate anymore? | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
Hmm. | ||
Now think of a disaster and get a disaster. | ||
Think of being wrong and be wrong. | ||
Now think of being right and be right. Now, think of being right again and be right Okay. Now, check your eidetic recall again. | ||
Did it work? | ||
Female voice: I had to put the cat there myself! | ||
Aw, tough! [laughter] | ||
How is yours handling? | ||
Female voice: It shifted. Sometimes it’s all right and then it ran away a bit. You know ... | ||
All right. | ||
Think of a horse and then jump up in front of you as a horse. | ||
Female voice: The horse jump up in front of you? | ||
You be the picture of the horse that jumps up in front of you now. | ||
Got that? | ||
Female voice: Yeah. | ||
All right. Throw that away. You can be yourself again. | ||
All right. Now think of a cat and then be a cat-picture of a cat in front of you. Now let’s be a machine that just deals out pictures and just anxiously sit there and wait for somebody to think of something so you can deal them a picture. Now just be that machine there, dealing pictures of horses and cats and so forth and get very serious about it. Just deal them up pictures in all directions there-hand out pictures, pictures. | ||
And get how proud this makes you. | ||
And get how mischievous this is of you. | ||
And get how serious all this is. | ||
And hand out some more pictures. | ||
Okay. Be yourself. | ||
Those are various methods used to untrigger automaticity. | ||
Now, let’s test out eidetic recall again. Test it out. | ||
You have to give yourselves a picture now? Or ... | ||
Female voice: Mm-hm. It’s not automatic anymore. | ||
That’s right and that is as it should be. | ||
Female voice: Oh. | ||
Second Female voice: 1 almost got it. | ||
Third Female voice: I had to build a cat that time. | ||
Good! Good! Sooner or later, just to be colloquial, some of you “cookies” are going to find out that you put mock-ups together sort of with your bare hands. | ||
You don’t say “cat” and then get a duplicate of the MEST universe. | ||
You say, “Cat. Let’s see now, a cat has ears, ears, uh, whiskers, eyes-forgot his front feet. Yeah, front feet, tz | -mm-hm-mm-hm-mm-hm-NCty nice cat! That’s right, that’s a nice cat-beat it!” [laughter] That’s the way you make a mock-up. | |
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You remember in the Doctorate tapes, I kept asking, “But where do the pearl buttons come from?” Hm? Remember? Well, that’s the question. And the question is answered-automaticity. But it’s answered when you can be the machine. | ||
You can go, yourself, through the operations of the machine and so invalidate it out of existence by paralleling it-duplicate it and run it out. Or you can simply be the machine and perform its actions. See? You just be the machine and do whatever the machine is doing. | ||
Now, I’ll show you how to handle these-you people, all too prone to test whether or not a process works by whether or not it kicks in your pain machine. You see that that’s a little bit idiotic? You shouldn’t have-you know, “It gave me a somatic so therefore I am getting along and my case is improving.” Well, sure enough it’s a communication change, but it’s rather unreasonable. | ||
We’re running a process which puts terminals apart and the preclear gets a somatic. Well, this is whether or not his automatic machine for somatics is kicking on and off. See? I mean it’s an unreasonable assumption. | ||
Gee, there’s an awfully dead silence follows that. What’s the matter? | ||
Female voice: We’ve all got a pain-Гт sick. | ||
All of you have been doing that, haven’t you? | ||
Audience: Yes. | ||
Well, that’s why I ran this last hour or so that I’ve been working on-is just to bring up to a large degree this point of you’ve got to postulate an effect to have an effect. Postulate any time an effect turns up automatically and if some effect is occurring automatically and continually and so forth, why, it started out originally because the preclear got into some kind of trouble or he couldn’t, so on, trust himself. You’ll find most preclears aren’t operating well because they can’t trust themselves. | ||
Well, it’s rather interesting that they instinctively single this one out. They say they can’t trust other people and so forth, but if you barrel down the line and ask them real close, they’ll tell you, well, they can’t trust themselves. Well, if they can’t trust themselves, they are recognizing the fact that they are setting up their own automatic machinery. | ||
Now, I’ve tried to show you that. Now, here’s a remedy for this automatic pain machine, is, “Now be a machine.” And when I say, “Be a machine,” I mean be a box of wheels and cogs and, you know, anything that’s a machine, you know? | ||
Now be a machine and start dealing out somatics to a body. | ||
Just go about it in a workmanlike, emotionless basis-just deal somatics out to the body at random. | ||
All right. Now be yourself receiving somatics from a machine. | ||
Now be the machine dealing out somatics to the body. (I don’t care whether these somatics are actual or just conceptual. I just want to get the point across.) | ||
Now be yourself receiving somatics from the machine. | ||
Now have the machine let go and you let go. | ||
Okay, did you do that? | ||
Well, you realize you depend on pain or somatics to tell you when to let go? And a preclear who can’t let go of things, like let go of bodies, is simply depending on his own automaticity to let go and it’s pain that tells him to let go and that’s his automatic warning signal, that’s called an automatic alarm system. So he knows something is happening because he gets an automatic alarm. So you know something is happening in your case because you get an automatic alarm. But what your auditor should know right at that juncture, and he should know very clearly indeed, is a very simple thing: that this preclear is depending upon an automatic alarm system rather than looking at his environment to find out if he’s going to get shot. | ||
Now, you say it’s unreasonable to suppose that you should be able to see a four thousand, four hundred foot-per-second bullet coming in towards you, in time to move the body. That is unreasonable to suppose that, isn’t it? It’s even unreasonable to suppose that you will know that when you went around the corner, you would be hit by another car. That’s unreasonable to suppose that, isn’t it? Well, that’s the trouble with it, it’s “unreasonable.” And the individual who is depending upon reason isn’t depending on knowingness. Reason is a covert method of knowing. | ||
All right. Let’s get prediction and we find out the individual can predict. But let’s just take lookingness and we find out that the individual who can’t see a bullet coming in at forty-four hundred feet-per-second, dragging its heels, loafing on the way, hitting air friction the whole time and it’s only traveling ten feet and you mean to tell me that this character’s reaction time is going to be so slow that he cannot move his body aside a foot or two from the time that bullet leaves the muzzle of the rifle and arrives in the body. | ||
And you’re going to tell me that this person is going to be in good shape, huh? Well, he’s in horrible condition. | ||
How fast should your reaction time be? Your reaction time should be fast enough to unmaterialize and rematerialize a thousand miles away, instantaneously. You shoot at that, huh, instead of trying to get three feet back of your head and we’ll be making some progress around here. | ||
Audience: Oh! | ||
Let’s don’t move this body aside, let’s unmaterialize it and rematerialize it. | ||
For instance, my maid can park a car in a parking lot-a car which never had a scratch on it-and can park it in the parking lot at the theater. (Never had any processing, she wouldn’t know what it was all about.) And she can actually park it there, see, and not-know that the car next to her was going to back out and smash in its left-hand rear spat. She would consider it unreasonable of you to assume that she wouldn’t know this. Well, it’s unreasonable of me not to know that she would take it down there and do that too. But the funny part of it is, I knew she would do that. And the funny part of it is, it doesn’t happen to be important if the left-hand rear spat of a car is pushed in, particularly if you’ve localized it to the spat. And if you’ll go out and look at that, you’ll find out that the spat is very carefully crushed, but nothing else is crushed. So she’s had her accident because she always knew she was going to have an accident, so we had to be right. | ||
Well, out of such intricacies, we only get trouble if we consider that these things are terribly bad that happen. And do you know that if you prevented everything bad from happening across the length and breadth of the United States, you would get absolutely no change. You’d get nothing to prevent, nothing to crusade against, nothing to get mad about, nothing to get upset about and nothing to get interested in. | ||
So the thing has two virtues. But when the virtue slumps over to a point where you depend entirely upon reason and it becomes “an Age of Reason”-which is an entirely covert age-and when it gets over to the point where nobody has enough freedom to have any fun, why then, we’d better balance the books the other way. And that’s precisely, really, what we’re doing. We’ll shove them over to a point where there’s a little more action envisioned. | ||
Now, you can actually have a war with individuals who can dematerialize and rematerialize themselves a thousand miles away. Only I’m afraid the general staff would have to be a lot brainier than most general staffs. Eh? You can think of how you would campaign against such a set of troops. I myself would do it with women, [laughter] But boy, it’d be an interesting war. | ||
Well, did you learn anything this morning? | ||
Audience; [various responses] | ||
Female voice: I learned I have a hell of an automatic machinery. | ||
What is it? | ||
Female voice: I’ve got to start to think that I’m going to think before I think and then I have to think that I have to repair the machine before I can recall what I just “thunk. ” [laughter] | ||
Well, we have a little motto-we have a motto and it reads as follows: An automatic machinery is better suspected than not known, [laughter] | ||
Okay. Is your case in any better condition? | ||
Audience: Mm-hm. | ||
Good. | ||
Female voice: Definitely. | ||
Good. | ||
Now, when you are processing, you watch for these automaticities, huh? And you know now-I’ve been giving you the number of ways you undo them. | ||
Now, for instance, Conway over here is fogging around about what she ought to do about this machine. | ||
[to student] Now, what you do about this machine? | ||
Female voice: I would recognize it’s a machine and have it to make her do things and her reverse machine do things and build a machine that would do things for her machine again. | ||
Mm-hm, very good. | ||
Female voice: Okay, and know the technique to make me do it. | ||
Okay. | ||
[to student] What would you do about it? | ||
Male voice: Well, make the machine obey my orders, make it make me obey its orders. Then straightaway make it invisible, hide it, keep it there. Play around. . . | ||
Okay. | ||
Now, that which you can control you do not have to be afraid of. Isn’t that right? Female voice: Mm-hm. | ||
Control is to start, stop and change. So you have another method of handling automatic machinery besides beingness. You can start one, slow it down, speed it up. For instance, if a person on eidetic recall was having an awful time-you know the things just kept popping up anyhow-and you’d been auditing them for this long time of about ten, fifteen minutes and you weren’t getting much change and so forth, why, just have him make them pop up faster, you know? And then make them pop up slower and then, like we did to these machines, you say, “Get an orange.” “Now think of an orange and get a picture of an apple.” Dzzzt! You changed the machine, you see? | ||
Now, the change itself is start, stop and change. You can duplicate the machine, that’s one. Whole field there-duplicate it and be it; start it, stop it, change it; make it operate, make it operate doubly, make three machines operate when only one is supposed to be operating. | ||
You can get an Operating Thetan, by the way, to create three consecutive buildings and be in them, three consecutive places, with three consecutive sets of furniture all, by the way, in the same space-which is quite a trick, you know? Simply because he just knows that they’re all in the same space and the conditions with which he’s setting up the situation is that all these three buildings are different buildings in different spaces which occupy the same space and that’s why he can differentiate between them so well, because they’re all occupying the same space. And they’re perfectly reasonable to him, because you see there’s nothing quite as reasonable as unreason. | ||
Probably the wisest philosopher that ever wrote was Lewis Carroll, [laughter] Okay, let’s have lunch. | ||