Thank you. I think it's highly probable at this time that we could do with a little less data and a little more processing. How about that?

And when an organization is sitting where a living being should sit, it's time to call a halt.

Audience: (applause)

Now, I'm not talking now about anarchy. Anarchy is not even vaguely possible amongst aberrated peoples. An anarchy is predicated on the basis that it is possible amongst aberrated people. What I am talking about, however, is we need better men, not better signs.

Now, I've already given you some example of the highest echelon in significance processing, which is Meaningness Processing. Meaningness Processing. We ran that day before yesterday, remember?

We need a better social order, and not one or two better individuals, and a better organization. And when an organization gets into the fantastic levels of being above reproach, or when an individual sets himself up as so infinitely superior to his fellow man that he cannot be touched, chaos no matter at what distant date is bound to ensue. Do you see that?

Now, in running this process it is quite necessary to understand that the meaning one is to assign is preferably new, different and strange — preferably.

The control and direction of man depends upon the goodwill and the good state of man, it does not depend upon iron bars and handcuffs. It doesn't depend upon cells or electric-shock machines.

In other words, ask you to have the wall up there assign some meaning and you just sit there and say — have it say, "Well, I'm a wall" or "I mean I'm a wall" or something like this, and then say okay to that, you're not going to get anyplace — no place at all.

A society is sick as it has sick people within it. The way to make it well, however, is not necessarily to work only upon the sick and make them well.

Why? Because we have a scarcity of meaning. Just no more important than that. And when you were a little kid running around, the world looked real bright, and that stick you had was a horse, and that doll you had was a live baby, and that house you had was a castle. Years later, you take a look at these objects and what do you see? You see a stick, a doll, and a very small house.

If the members of that society were sufficiently well and able themselves, they would never apprehend the slightest difficulty in pulling out of the mud any fallen fellow. Pulling people up and back into the ranks is not a function of an organization; it is a function and responsibility of man himself. Pulling people back up into health and good fellowship and the game is not dependent upon a group of specialists. It's dependent on man.

What's happened? Why does the world look bright to a child? No more and no less than this: A child assigns meaning, and an adult has gone on a one-way flow so long that he lets everything assign meaning to him. He looks over there, he sees a wall, so that's a wall. And he looks at another person and he says, "Just a person — body, certain amount of education, certain amount of liability." He's saying to himself, "Now I know," you know? "Now I know all about everything." In other words, "I've stripped the meaning out of everything. I have the exact, proper assignment to everything." And then we get what? We get a person who has a very dull world around him.

And when helping one's fellows becomes a specialized action to be performed only by the anointed, to be performed only by somebody who wears the right star, badge, or sign — man's dead! Because the best of man comes into being when he is willing to aid and assist any of his fellows and is permitted to do so.

Now, the oddity is, is the fastest cognition change you will get on the preclear is with Meaningness Processing. He changes cognitions faster, realizes things faster — and that's merely because it is the upper echelon of significance processes.

We allow any dog to come around and sympathize with us when we're hurt, and even in a cave society they let a dog lick the wound to help it heal. But not in this society! And when men are made to feel that they do not have the right to aid and assist their fellows, but that Joe or Bill or somebody down the street is the only one who should be permitted to wave a magic wand or rattle a magic healing crystal, somebody had better look at the society real good because it's not a well society. Do you see that clearly?

Significance processes start right down there with "hide," or — and the boys, you know, have been very, very inventive here, very inventive here at this congress. Already had a suggestion, a possibly true one, that "wait" lies just below "hide," and that "decay" lies just below "wait," and that "trance" lies just below there somewhere. How far south can you go? It's quite interesting.Well now, there are meanings. There definitely are meanings, the woof and the warp of the meanings of the world. And as long as you are anxious about what things really mean and as long as things are upsetting to you — that is to say, you know, they might mean this and they might mean that — as long as you have these feelings about your surroundings, why, you have a tendency to be rather unhappy about meaning. You just keep — "What is the actual meaning of that wall?" — you've got a nuclear physicist.

Now, it does not immediately presuppose that because a person has a right to heal that he is able to heal. That doesn't immediately follow, does it?

He takes a look at a nonexistent atom which exists by agreed-upon postulate and so forth, and he says, "Now this means ..." and he has a total agreement of its meaning. See, it's just as nice — got it all settled, it's all buttoned up, he knows exactly what it is. But it's a damn lie and all he can do with it is blow things up. Do you see this? He then has invented, unknowingly, along with all other inventions, some new meaning and then has agreed upon it and then has said that this thing is the truth and thereafter refuses to let himself put any other meaning into it.

But today we are at a level of understanding in Scientology sufficiently good that almost any human being alive could be put into possession of enough of that data to make anyone around him better and happier, including himself. And that is the goal toward which we are trying to win. And we are winning, using some of the artificial supports of the society which already exist. And one of those supports is organization.

Now he has learned his textbook. He's all set, you see. Well, the funny part of it is, is there is an exact way in which that wall got there, in which that man got there, and so on. There is this exactness. But listen, just because there is an exact way it all got there is no reason for you to lay aside your power of imagination and invention, because that's all the fun you'll ever have.

But I would be a very sad man to realize, after years of work, that we had created not a greater freedom in the society but a stronger and more powerful organization in place of existing organizations. And as Hendrik Van Loon once said, "The more things seem to change, the more they remain the same." He says that in a book called Tolerance, which I recommend to you — Tolerance, by Willem Hendrik Van Loon, a very great writer, recently dead. Very fine man. But he says this in regard to revolution.

If a nuclear physicist could look at an atom and say, "What nice baking soda! That definitely means that if I mix it up with a professor, I will get an agency," if he had the freedom to do this, he could come home at night and pat the little kids on the head and be nice to the wife and eat a dinner without following it with bicarbonate of soda. But he doesn't do that. He stays in the laboratory all the time and the fact that the gamma goes by the square root of the beta which goes under the lambda and this is all agreed upon and is all nice — only it's kind of a desperate mystery, only he's got to find out more about these extant lies. And he says, "It means just so-and-so. And it's all mathematical, and I've got it all down in my notebook." And he comes home and he slaps a kid and he sits down and he — "What you got for dinner? Rrrf!" and takes the baking soda. Says, "To hell with the world, let's blow it all up."

We have this enormous mass of people swelling up out of the ditches and byroads and gutters and alleys and overwhelming a despotic government on the motto that "Everybody is going to be free. We're going to have liberty, fraternity and equality" and we get despotity! Instead of setting up a new free regime, all they do is use the extant communication lines of despotism in order to rule and govern. Anyone who would recommend the overthrow of a nation by force is a fool. He doesn't understand the least semblance of politics or of people. Because no nation is ever overthrown, they are just substituted for.

Why's he do that? He's lost his power to put any meaning into it. He doesn't know where it came from, he's agreed with a lot of lies, and he's stuck with it.

If you want to know what kind of a government you'd get after you revolted against a government, look at the government you revolted against. Things will be a little bit bullet-nicked, but that'll be about the only difference.

By the way, you take most engineers who are thoroughly trained on exactly what matter is — you blow them out of their head, if they happen to touch a wall, they'll stick to it. Boy, will they stick to it — thunk! Only you won't blow them out of their head. Now, why is that? That's because of the assigned meaning, and the assigned meaning is the agreed-upon meaning and that is the meaning and there is no other meaning and "I am now being told," he is saying to himself.

We could, at this time, put together an organization or a group in Scientology sufficiently strong, sufficiently powerful to run over everything it came to. This would be a fascinating thing to do. Be a game in itself. And then someday — me gone, other guys gone — all of a sudden there sits this thing, this organization. And somebody has to rise up and say, "Auditors of the world, unite; overthrow this monster!" And everybody would see it go down very plainly, you see. Down it'd go. Then they'd say, "Fine! Now we are free." And they would get another handful of letters cancelling their certificates. (audience laughter)

Now, just look at it as a stuck flow. Old mechanism — flow too long in one direction and you get a stuck flow. All right. All he's saying is, "It is telling me, everything is telling me." Now look at your Auditor's Code and you'll find, "Do not evaluate for the preclear." He's had the whole world evaluating for him. Everything's evaluating for him: the wall says it's a wall, the car says it's a car, the sky says it's a sky, the atom says it's an atom. You see? And that's all it says. And that is constant and continual evaluation.

I try to look far enough in the future to forecast and predict what might be, so as to not do too many things wrong. You must allow me some percentage. And as I look into the future, I see that we are handling here, material of a potential control and command over mankind which must not be permitted at any time to become the monopoly or the tool of the few to the danger and disaster of the many. And maybe in this I am simply being overly proud, conceited or optimistic. But I would never for a moment step back from the role of being conceited just to be approved of, or just to be wrong in a prediction. And I believe that prediction is right.

What the preclear is doing obsessively, have him do it knowingly and you get Meaningness Processing, which overcomes evaluation. And so one can change one's cognitions. One can be free. And that is the heart and soul of Meaningness Processing.

And I believe that the freedom of the material which we know and understand is guaranteed only by a lightness of organization, a maximum of people, good training and good, reliable, sound relay of information. And if we can do these things, we will win. But if we can't do these things, sooner or later the information which we hold will become the property of an untrustworthy few. This I am sure, because it has always happened this way. But that's no reason it has to keep on happening this way. I am not of an inevitable frame of mind.

Now, I didn't mean to give you a lecture on it. I wanted to show you very clearly where this process was going and not have you sit there and take a look at the wall and have it say, "I'm a wall; this means a wall is here," and then you say okay. Because the funny part of it is, you're doing that all the time and you're never going to run out that much track.

I have no illusions about either the unimportance of Scientology or its importance. You see, it'd be very, very easy to get a swollen idea either way.

What I want you to do is take a look at the wall and say, "This means thundershowers are imminent. Okay." Simple as that.

It'd be a very simple thing, you know, to take a look at it and then take an opinion of it, independent of its actuality. Scientology, well understood, is a very powerful thing. Well used, it can do a great deal for the social order and for the individual. Poorly relayed, poorly communicated, monopolized or used exclusively for gain, it could be a very destructive thing.

Rehabilitate the ability to reconsider or consider, and you've rehabilitated a thetan. So let's do it.

I have already had three offers by persons in places of power to hand over a great deal of information and stop talking. I'd be very happy to stop talking; doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I talk, I like that. I sit back silently, I like that — doesn't matter. Get a kick out of both of them. But I wonder why anybody would be interested in suddenly having a large mass of information they couldn't digest — my notebooks and things like this — and have me stop talking about it? Why would anybody be interested in this at all?

Let's look at the front wall and have it tell you it means something. (pause) Give it an okay.

Also received an offer once to work in a certain place in the world, to make men "more suggestible." It was at a dinner party. That was no less an official offer, because that's why I was at the dinner party — I didn't find out till I got there — to make men more suggestible! And I sat there, and the fellow evidently thought I was in a stunned silence. And I sat there with my dessert spoon halfway suspended, hoping against hope that I wouldn't break out in the hysterical laughter which I felt. I held it back, but I have never heard a better joke. That's carrying coals to Newcastle. Make him more suggestible! All you'd have to do is lean on him slightly and he'd go sound asleep!

Audience: Okay.

Now, many people have a feeling that I often talk rather wildly about the healing profession and so forth. Well, once in a while I get mad. I'm entitled to get mad. I reserve that as one of my human rights. When somebody comes in — they wheel in some kid, something of the sort, and they just got through cutting him all up, you know, and they say, "Well, that didn't do him any good, now you audit him." And I say out loud, "Why didn't you bring him around here first when he wasn't sick? He's sick now! He was just unhappy before. Now what do you expect me to do?" Well, I almost never turn anybody away, but I can get mad about it!

Fine. Now let's look at the back wall and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, there should not be any animosity particularly between a Scientologist and a member of a healing profession unless it's the animosity which one feels when he is certain that he's confronting stupidity of some kind or another. The only animosity I ever feel, really, is why in 1947 — why didn't they listen? Why in 1955 don't they read a book?

Audience: Okay.

But I can tell you that we are worrying or thinking about such a small section of society that, as one of you said to me the other day, "Why can't we just overlook this entirely? Why do we have to mention it at all?" We don't! It's the most sensible thing I've heard in the whole congress — "Why mention it?" Why mention the healing professions or doctors or psychologists or anything else? Why not just forget it? All right. I said, "Gee, that's a good idea. Best idea I've heard in a long time." So I decided I would, so I thought I'd better tell you tonight that I've forgotten all about it.

Give it an okay, attaboy. Now let's take a look at that right-hand wall and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Of course, it's very easy for a victor to be charitable. When you've won enough knowledge to do a great many things, the chief of which is to permit your fellow man to know and do a great many things, you'd better stop thinking these small thoughts, you know. You better go off and sleep on cloud nine after this. And one of these days I'm going to fix it up so I can actually feel like that!

Audience: Okay.

Now, we have had five years — five years of consistent, continual research, theory, technique, advance. Five consistent, continual years. The progress of this work has not been interrupted by anything for five years. And we have had five years of organizational chaos. That's interesting, isn't it? Now, when I say chaos, I mean a human organization — where everybody passes slips of paper back and forth.

Good. Now let's take the left-hand wall over here and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

No, I am afraid that freedom does not depend upon or thrive well within the iron channels of organizations. Let me tell you something very amusing that occurs — that did occur in Dianetic organizations and that does occur in Scientology organizations — and why executive personnel and clerical and office personnel gets terribly overworked. They do.

Audience: Okay.

This happens whether you're in London or South Africa. It doesn't matter where you are, you can count on this happening. You hire this girl, you know, and she's supposed to sit there and she's supposed to type out some letters. She's supposed to get answers to all these people, you know. And she sits there and she types out letters and she's very happy about the whole thing, chewing gum, you know, and she — "Gee, you know, that's interesting." And the next thing you know she's in the HCA Course! She'll drop her work at the drop of a typewriter simply to talk to somebody about Scientology. The kids in the organization work hard, but it's the darnedest thing you ever saw. It's utterly impossible to put together a business organization and keep it as such. So I just gave up.

Well, fine. Now let's take a look at that ceiling and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, this means we really, in Scientology organizations — that people do their very best to answer your mail, ship out your orders, give you tapes, copy them, do things — they do do their best this way. They're usually short-handed, they're usually working about fifteen hours a day and usually auditing somebody else another five. Everybody in the organization's an auditor. I mean, that's the way it goes. Sooner or later, why, they turn up there, and they're sitting there back there pounding the typewriter again. They don't leave, you know — pounding the typewriter again and all of a sudden they call in the young executive who wrote this letter and say, "Well now, you've made a mistake. I think there's a much better process for this case than the one you've just recommended." They got their certificate up right there, you know? They could actually leave the organization and probably go out someplace and make themselves a considerable amount of money but they don't; they stay in close to the organization and where things are going on.

Audience: Okay.

Another odd thing occurs, is a Scientology organization becomes home for an awful lot of people. That's the darnedest thing. That's been going on for five years — that's home. You see somebody every day, he's sitting on the back porch and he's talking to somebody else and you wonder, "Where'd this guy come from?"

All right. Don't let me rush you on this. Now take a look at that floor and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, if you were running a laundry, or if you were running an industry that manufactured cars, you wouldn't find the place full of guys all the time that simply were just interested in the cars or interested in the wash coming out. You just wouldn't find this. Another thing, you wouldn't fire the fellow who was in charge of all of the inch-long parts or something like that and then find out he never leaves the premises. You fired him, but he's not gone anyplace. (audience laughter) It's horrible!

Audience: Okay.

So Dianetics and Scientology organizations, I know after five years' experience, will never be a business — never be.

Well, good. Now take a look at the center of Earth — and let's get right down and knock gravity just to pieces here. Take a look at the center of Earth — go on — and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, the efficient parts of the organization — the efficient parts today — are the processing center, auditor units, and training units. Now that we aren't changing techniques every twenty-five or thirty seconds (audience laughter) and now that an auditor today can talk to an auditor who graduated eight months ago, an odd thing is occurring: The auditor who's doing the processing is very certain of his tools and he converses very, very easily with the other auditors who are also processing; and the auditor who's training has the strangest frame of mind — I never heard of anybody teaching biology could possibly be as much a purist, as much a hound, as picayune and as ornery as some auditor teaching somebody Six Basic Steps. And then this person says, "Well, all right. Now, the way I do this is to — I say — I say ... What — what do I say now? Well, I — I say, I say, 'Remember something real' and then he remembers something real and then I say, 'Okay.' Is that right? All right, fine, now here we go. All right, now. 'Remember something real.' "

Audience: Okay.

And the person says, "Mm-mmm-mmm, yes."

All right, good. Now take a look at the center of Earth again and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

And the auditor says, "Okay."

Audience: Okay.

Well, his Instructor's standing right there, you know. Instructor says, "(sigh) Show some interest!"

All right, fine. Now take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

But training, processing units today are coming up into a state of efficiency and interest which is quite interesting. The HASI auditor, for instance, used to start his staff auditor conference at five o'clock. See, he had nothing to eat since lunch, and he starts staff auditor conference at five o'clock and still be there and the conference still going on at eight with no dinner. So that noticing this and taking pity on this, I pushed it back to four. And have still had one going on at nine! Everybody real interested, comparing notes, squaring it all around and so forth.

Audience: Okay.

Another thing is, of recent months, become increasingly apparent: that the people in Scientology were increasingly — in the West there — getting MEST-conscious, you know, a little bit. They are starting to dress up and wear ties and so forth. Darnedest thing — darnedest thing I ever saw was a Director of Processing who, up to that time, auditor comes in in shirt sleeves, you know, and so forth — Director of Processing all of a sudden went on a complete military martinet binge! She'd just got some auditing squared around and her tolerance level or her unwillingness to run other people's machinery had been run out. And she takes a look at this auditor — he walks into the auditor's conference, he's in a very neatly pressed, clean shirt and tie. And she says, "Well, I hope you didn't audit your preclear looking like a wreck like that!" She had everybody in coats. Fantastic. Yes, times change. I suppose some time in the future I'll probably develop a process that will make a business executive.

All right. Now let's take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Audience: No!

Audience: Okay.

And will make one devoted to a business executing. Well, I've studied this and I don't know whether you have to push them down scale or bring them up. (audience laughter) We've gotten people much more alert and much more competent on an executive line, but we haven't gotten them to a point where they lost all interest in their fellow human being and would just sit there and stare at that paper chain and shuffle it. You know, that's what an executive's supposed to do. You know, shuffle the pieces of paper. People put a piece of paper here and he's supposed to put it in that basket. That's an executive job.

All right. Let's take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

It's the number of pieces of paper which you can handle in any given hour which determines your importance as an executive.

Audience: Okay. Everybody get it? Audience: Yes.

Well, an unfortunate thing, however, with all this is that doesn't determine a successful businessman. That's another thing. That's something else. And the way you do that is you get a fellow that can look at the situation, estimate it, get the answers necessary to resolve it and put them into effect and carry them forward to a successful conclusion. Well, we can make people like that, but they won't sit at desks.

All right. Now let's have a nice look at the sky. You know, skies have been very significant. Let's take a nice look at the sky up there. Not that ceiling, the dickens with the ceiling — take a look at the sky. Now have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Well, we have many quandaries, many difficulties. Now, Ability magazine is scheduled in the next many, many months to become a national newsstand publication. As you can realize, that takes a great deal of time, effort and expenditure — great many contacts. You couldn't possibly print a national newsstand publication from the Southwest; they don't have that much paper. That's the truth.

Audience: Okay.

It just doesn't seem that paper grows on the desert. Until they learn to make it out of cactus, they'll continue to have a shortage. Furthermore, it costs more to print in the West, Ability magazine — by a factor of two — and do all the work ourselves, than it would cost to have it printed professionally with no strain or pain to us in the East.

All right, fine. Now take a look at the sky, and again have it tell you it means something. (pause)

And the second it started to climb up on the circulation lists, I reversed the motto of Horace Greeley, and I said, "Ronnie, go East."

Audience: Okay.

Now, rumor is an effort to supply an existing scarcity of information. A rumor is an effort to remedy lack of data. That's all rumor is. And an effort to get out enough data that people know about — or would like to know about — about what's going on is rather difficult. It's a little bit difficult because often they're not interested in what you're saying.

All right, fine. Now take a look at the sky and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

But we have these days solved this to some degree. I believe you'll like Ability magazine, the way it's going — more or less its tone and so on. And the number of pages it can have must not be limited and restricted simply because the Southwest doesn't know that you use paper to publish magazines.

Audience: Okay.

So we'll try to make it bigger and try to make it go further. Naturally, when Ability goes national it will, to a large degree, lose some of its personality or tone — less intimate detail — so it will have to be supplemented by an additional bulletin to the membership.

All right. Now remember, we're inventing a meaning. You know? "This means that electric signs are at a premium." Take a look at the sky and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, as far as the HASI is concerned — I was just talking to Phoenix a little while ago — everything's going along very smoothly, HCA, BScn Course running well, the processing unit running very well. They're trying to get things squared away, because what we did was take some of the business facilities in an effort to print Ability and so forth, and move them East. Now, that is what has moved East — some of the business facilities of the organization and its equipment and machinery.

Audience: Okay.

Now, actually it's a good thing to have the business office at a distance from the school and the processing center. And I hope now we'll be able to hire a stenographer and she'll sit there and she'll go all the way through and write dozens of letters before all of a sudden she goes out to Phoenix. (audience laughter)

All right. Take a look at the sky and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

The plans for the future of Scientology are actually in the run right now. They are materializing. They are going forward at this time. The die, in other words, is cast. The modus operandi behind this planning is a very simple thing to understand if you'd only care to look at it. That is, with a minimum of organization, a maximum of dissemination, and still at the same time guarantee the training excellence of an auditor and guarantee the skill and knowledge of those auditors he trains. That's what we're trying to do.

Audience: All right. Okay.

Now, lack of communication brings about rumor. There have been more rumors about less in Dianetics and Scientology than can easily be printed by Time magazine. I'm not saying that Time magazine prints only rumors. I saw a news notice in there, in I think 1947, which was a fact. Yeah, see — it was a fact. I checked up on it. Everybody was quite surprised.

All right. Fine. Now take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

But this flood of rumor, you should understand, that you hear about this and that, is normally simply an effort to be wise or smart, but principally an effort to fill in a lack of news. An effort to fill in a lack of actual news. Well, I very often wish sometimes that some spectacular occurrence had happened in order to put some real news on the line so as to knock a few rumors out. Man is very scarce on drama and sometimes dreams up drama with a most alarming result. So that we occasionally hear all sorts of things, see. Hear everybody — "all the auditors in the East have just decided to jump into the Atlantic" or something. And we hear that "the HASI has just burned down the courthouse in Phoenix," or .. .

Audience: Okay.

But some of these rumors are quite interesting in that they are consistent and continual, and one of those was thrown at me the other day: that I was in an institution. And I looked at the fellow, who was a newspaper reporter heh! — a real bad one. I looked at this character, and I said, "Where the hell did you learn that? Now, where did you pick that up?" Well, he couldn't say. But I was very intrigued because this rumor has about five times been traced back to the Menninger Institute as having emanated from there.

Well, all right. Now, good. Now take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

At one time we did publish this fact, however: that Menninger was not, at this time, in an institution in Wichita. But in view of the fact that there's no fight going on in this direction, I don't think there'd be much slapping back along this line. We are not trying to monopolize healing in the United States. We are not trying to monopolize insanity.

Audience: Okay.

And I'm going to say something here now about insanity that I wish to say as just a public statement: that a great deal of experience, observation, on the subject of insanity and insane people has finally forced me to the conclusion that helping the insane is usually an effort to reverse what self-determinism they have left.

Get it now? Everybody got it? Audience: Yeah.

A person who is psychotic has, at one time or another, decided to die. He has not now, or subsequently, decided to live.

All right. Take a look at the sky and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, almost any of us have at some time or another felt bad enough or been sick enough to say, "I wish I were dead," and really mean it at the time. But then we say afterwards, "Well, this life isn't so bad — go on living," you know? Psychosis doesn't do this — what makes it psychosis. They say this so hard or they come so close to death, that they abandon the body and then hang in the middle, unable to completely let go because it's still alive, and unwilling to take over any control of it again. And there they sit, trying to die.

Audience: Okay.

And this society says that we must keep everyone alive, because we're all machines, you see? And there is no other life and this is all there is to it, so everyone has to live. And the society says this urgently and continually — they have to live. As a matter of fact, it would be a very, very, very dangerous thing if anybody were to legalize what they call euthanasia, which is murder. See, it would be a very dangerous thing because somebody could always figure-figure his way around this law. And you'd be walking down the street feeling perfectly happy about life, and they'd say, "You know, that person's liable to have pups," or something of the sort. Bang! Very dangerous to legalize this thing.

All right. Now you're giving it the okay now? Audience: Yes.

But maybe we shouldn't put all the stress in the world on the idea that just because something is breathing, it wants to keep on living! How about a plant with all of its leaves hacked off and so forth? It's trying to die. Why? So it can go be another plant. And the longer you stop it from going and being another plant, the harder off it is, the more difficulties you've put in its path!

All right. Good. Now take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now it's an unfortunate thing that psychosis would fall into this category. But the person who is insane is, according to my observation, trying to die to the degree that he has practically moved out and gone into the between-lives state. See, he just — "No more. Don't want to come near it again." And then you're going to come along and make him well, when every single vector, stress and concentration in that being is to die.

Audience: Okay.

And it is not that insanity is an unsolvable problem. But it is an unsolvable problem in this society, bent as it is upon survival at this time.

All right. Fine. Now take a look at the sky and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

Now, that doesn't mean now that you cannot take a person who is disturbed and make him undisturbed. You can reverse this vector. But the seriously insane are trying to die. And unless one had complete and utter, uninterfered-with freedom to give these people space, to give them sunlight, to give them some associations and company of one kind or another, to minimize these restraints of one kind or another, difficulties in the cure of insanity are imposed to such a degree that no auditor or no minister, unless he believes that there is some small chance, should concern himself with insanity. Why? Because we haven't got enough auditors.

Audience: Okay.

Now, it is perfectly true that a case could recover. The hope of insanity lies less, then, in auditing than in providing enough space, enough lack of restimulation, enough quietness and rest — since exhaustion and insanity are almost synonymous — to provide enough quiet and rest, space and food so that the person might have a chance to change his mind and decide to live again. Until he does so, there's very little you can do.

Good. Now take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means something. (pause)

In Dianetics, there was therein proposed a solution to the problem of insanity: to provide space, to provide quietness, let somebody get a rest and let them change their minds. There is that solution. Perhaps someday some part of this society will see such a solution put into effect or will try to put such a solution into effect.

Audience: Okay.

To take a person who is insane in a very closed, confined area and audit them may or may not succeed, simply because of the existence of the barriers and restraints — everything cooped up in their vicinity. This doesn't mean that an auditor has not, and that an auditor in Dianetics particularly could not, bring about a considerable change in the insane. It does not mean that this could not happen. It does not mean that because a person is insane, it is all hopeless. I'm telling you what I am satisfied insanity is, which I think you might find an interesting observation.

All right, fine. Now look at your next-door neighbor and put into that person, saying, "I mean." You supply it. (pause) Give them an okay. (audience laughter) Got that now?

Insanity appears to be that thing of a death wish of such strength and magnitude that the person will see almost everything die around him in an effort to carry it out. And sanity returns when the person decides again to live.

All right. Let's do that again. (pause)

And out of all these years of study and observation, that's really all I know about insanity. Because I have seen preclears in much more serious condition than an insane person seemed to be in. I have seen them with all the manifestations that an insane person had and yet they were not insane. I have seen them with engrams in restimulation that would have killed an elephant, and they were still sane. I have seen them so nervous and shaking that they were practically shaking the threads out of their sleeves and they were still sane. But they wanted to live. And so, by themselves or with the help of an auditor, they overcame the ghosts and things that go boomp in the night. But that person wanted to live. And so that person was sane. That person was willing to take responsibility for some part of his difficulties. And so that person was sane and so that person could recover.

Audience: (various responses)

What we call the insane — desire to die. And they might have some very minor thing wrong with them, but they desire to die. And that is the vector that they go.

All right. You got that pretty good, huh?

As far as psychosomatic illness is concerned, I have felt that psychosomatic illness was overrated. And I would continue to feel that it was overrated until I found a man who did not have one. And I have begun to believe that psychosomatic illness is a misnomer and it should simply be called "unwanted sensation" or "unwanted absence of sensation." And to classify it as illness was to make it unsolvable. Because illness infers that some bugs or some malfunction of organs or something else is basic causation.

All right. Now let's put into this person once more, "I mean (something)." (pause)

And we find that psychosomatic illness is apparently simply unwanted sensation or lack of sensation. And that psychosomatic illness comes about when an individual is called upon to prove something and fails. So much so that if you were going to process a chronic somatic you could do this fascinating thing: you could say to an individual, "What have you got that would prove it?" See, you're not talking about a thing. You just ask him, "All right, what have you got that'd prove it?" And he'll have an answer. And he'd look himself over and he — "My head, that proves it. I've got a body, that's the reason. Because people were mean to me; that's why I have a body."

Audience: Okay. All right. Fine.

You can ask a person and solve the entire service facsimile that was described in 1952 simply by asking that person, "What would it get you out of? What would it get you into?" You ask him these questions alternately.

Now put into this person again, "I mean (something)." (pause)

"Oh yes, you have a bad arm. All right. Now, what'll that get you out of? Now what'll it get you into? Okay, fine. What'll it get you out of? All right. Fine. What'll it get you into? Fine, that's fine." And then you could finish it up, if you had that flat, with "All right, what can you prove with it?" and you'd find out he had a whole category of things he could prove with this psychosomatic illness.

Audience: Okay.

So I think that in treating psychosomatic illness, we are running straight up against the computation of a thetan that he ought to have some sensation, and that any sensation is better than no sensation. And that he should have something with which to gain a little sympathy and to prove his lack of guilt, because when we touch these buttons, all of these fancy psychosomatic illnesses that are so beautifully described and cataloged endlessly, fade away. "What'll it get you out of? What'll it get you into? What'll it get you out of? What'll it get you into? What'll it prove? What have you got that'll prove something?"

Good. Now you're getting the idea that this person is saying, "I mean." Gotten that, huh? Good. All right.

So we couldn't possibly be looking at an illness if we're looking at the human race, unless being human is an illness. So we have to immediately come out of the category of illness in order to treat a chronic somatic. And a chronic somatic is not a psychosomatic illness! I suppose some chronic somatics could be bad enough so that they would then be classified by one of the healing sciences as a psychosomatic illness. I'm just not throwing words around; I'm trying to give you a bigger breadth — a look at this.

Now let's note carefully the location of this person and do it again. (pause)

One person is on crutches with his legs and another one's on crutches with his mind. Doing what? Trying to get out of things and get into things and prove it.

Audience: Okay.

And you take somebody whose parents never listened to him. He'd go in and he'd say, "Sniff, sniff!"

Give him an okay. I notice you seem rather fainthearted about these okays. (audience laughter) Now let's do this again, and give it a real okay. (pause)

Mom would say, "Go away now, I'm busy."

Audience: Okay.

Next time ... (pause; audience laughter)

Now, did you say okay to that person?

Mom would say, "Go away, I'm busy."

Audience: Yes.

Next time — whole arm, you know, "Look!"

All right. Does anybody feel like somebody's doing something to them? Male voice: Yes.

"Go away, I'm busy."

You do, huh? Male voice: Yes.

Finally he takes the whole body, see, and he says .. .

Oh, that's tough. All right. Now let's do it again. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Mama says, "Go away, I'm busy."

Audience: Okay. You got it?

The fellow says, "I haven't got anything that'll prove anything. I give up. I'm dead."

Audience: Yes.

And he sees an auditor years and years later — he sees his co-auditor, he sees his wife, friend, somebody auditing him. "I feel pretty apathetic. I ..."

All right. Now — now let's look at somebody else. Somebody else in the room. (pause) Now do it again. (pause)

Here he is, still trying to prove it to Mama. Only he's got a lot of substitutes for Mama by this time: gateposts and wives and all kinds of things, you know. He's trying to prove it to somebody.

Audience: Okay.

But if you look into the computation behind it — what'll it get him out of? what'll it get him into? what'll it prove? — thing's rather simple.

All right, that's fine. Now let's do that again. (pause)

But there's another factor involved which makes psychosomatic illness a very suspicious thing. And that is you have to make the thetan capable of inventing a whole new category of ills before he'll give up any he's got.

Audience: Okay.

So, as far as illness is concerned, I do not for a moment believe that any auditor, treating any thetan, is going to heal anything. He'll change him, he'll give him another pattern, but to put him into a category where he'll never have any feeling anymore of any kind? Where he could never get ill again? Where he could never go into Selective Service headquarters and say, "Huh? You want me? Ha-ha!" (audience laughter) What kind of a dirty trick we trying to play on people?

All right. Good. Good. Now let's do it again. (pause)

We should put it into his command to be able to do these things knowingly and not have to hide the fact that he's doing it and do it obsessively. That's about the only thing we could change about this characteristic.

Audience: Okay.

Therefore, any great fixation on our part on the subject of illness, as such, will not be rewarded — ever! But a great deal of attention on our part on increasing abilities to the point where he's even able to be ill would pay off heavy dividends. Therefore, in Scientology you couldn't possibly be dealing with a healing science, because one of its functions is to make the fellow capable of getting sick!

All right. Now let's pick out a member of the opposite sex. (pause)

Now, these are the things which I have had to think about and talk about for a long time with auditors, with preclears, and these two conclusions I have reached very positively. That our own health, the health of the organization, and the trueness of processing itself, dictates that we do not consider ourselves to be healers of the insane or the sick.

Audience: (various responses)

If a person wants to die, if he finds life completely unsupportable, who are we to come along and say, "You have to live," particularly when this overset of his self-determinism would not be possible. The insane only stay insane — they only stay insane — because they don't want to live. It's a level of death deeper than death itself. And as a matter of fact, death is the substitute for insanity. You can examine that on the whole track. You'll find out that death was the substitute — that's the quickie — that's a good, fast method. And the only one that was before that was "Look, you have made me so crazy — you'll have to stop punishing me because you've made me so crazy that now I can't do anything and I have no control of anything and I have no responsibility and my postulates won't work. So you can go ahead and punish me if you want to, but it won't do you any good, because I'm not even responding now. I don't even know who's punishing me." And this insanity was sufficiently insupportable that after a while somebody invented death.

People are fond of saying, "I don't understand women" or "I don't understand men" — let's get busy on it right now. (audience laughter) You got one?

They went around and got a couple of guys and they said, "Hey, you know? What do you know? Huh! Look at this, I'm dead! Now watch!" Boom! Big invention. The wheel and the arch have nothing in it at all!

Audience: Yes.

So, as far as I can see, life can be a pleasant game for almost anybody unless he has decided entirely and completely that this is impossible and he isn't going to change his mind about it. If you can communicate with him, you can always change his mind about it, if you are talking to him as a thetan — as a spirit. If you're talking to him as a body . . . Did anybody ever find that part of the body you addressed in order to get it to change its mind? Be almost impossible if we waited for the body to change its mind like some black Vs do. They sit there getting audited, waiting for the body to change its mind, you know. "Well, it hasn't changed its mind yet. Hasn't changed its mind yet. No, I ran that process — hasn't changed its mind yet. Well, guess there's nothing to Scientology — can't make my body change its mind."

All right. Now put into this person, "I mean," and say okay.

An individual who is given a security of his immortality, who recognizes his own immortal character as he very easily does on exteriorization, has achieved the greatest gift he could be given by a fellow being — is a very great gift, believe me. Do you know that man has fought and bled and vituperated for thousands of years on the off chance that somebody was right when he said we could go to heaven? And you as an auditor or as a student of Scientology have it in your hands to hand out immortality, not at death, but right now.

Audience: Okay.

And therefore I do not think you have to go into the healing sciences or consider yourself a treater of the insane or a healer of the sick when you have at your disposal a gift of such infinitely greater magnitude that there is no possible comparison. And therefore, I do not want you to hold yourself, or what you know, too cheap. I want you to come into possession of all that you know and I want you to be able to use that knowledge with security.

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

And any mission I have here on this planet at this time will be successful at that time when what I have just said has been accomplished.

Audience: Okay.

Thank you.

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, all right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. How's that feel?

Audience: Fine.

Oh, it feels pretty good, huh? All right, who's putting the meaning into them?

Audience: I am.

Good. Good. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Fine. Now let's not be so bashful. Let's see those okays a little louder, and the meanings a little wilder. All right. Do it again.

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Let's do it again.

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's do it again.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now let's do it again.

Audience: Okay.

Fine. Fine. You understand a little bit more about men and women? (audience laughter) Come on, let's do it again.

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, that's fine, that's fine. Now let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now let's pick out another member of the opposite sex, somewhere else. (pause) All right. Got it?

Audience: (various responses)

All right. Let's do it again. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Did you do that?

Audience: Yes.

Got it now? Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now you doing this easier?

Audience: Yes.

Getting easier? All right. This is terrific invasion of privacy, isn't it? Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And once more put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Do you feel brighter about it?

Audience: (various responses)

Do you feel any brighter? All right. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right, good. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Boy, some of the meanings some of the people are putting into me right now are pretty wild! (audience laughter)

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well fine, fine, fine. You really got it now, huh?

Audience: (various responses)

Got it down pretty good? Now pick out a member of your own sex. (pause) And let's do it. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Fine. All right. Member of your own sex — do it again. ''(pause)'

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Fine. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

You know, there's nowhere near the enthusiasm in putting them into members of your own sex. (audience laughter)

Come on, let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Fine. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Getting a little better now?

Audience: (various responses)

Huh? All right. Let's do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Okay. All right. Now let's take a look at the center of Earth and have it tell you it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's take a look at the sky and have it say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right, good. Let's take another look at the sky and have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. Everybody getting that now?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Let's take another look at the sky and have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

That real good, huh?

Audience: (various responses)

Have — take a look at the center of Earth now and have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, all right. Now another look at the center of Earth and have it say it means,. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. You getting better at making it say different things?

Audience: (various responses)

Huh? Nobody's looking at it and say — "I mean I'm the center of the Earth," are they?

Audience: No.

All right. Let's take another look at the center of Earth and have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

By the way, you seeing it a little bit better?

Audience: (various responses)

Oh, you hadn't thought of that. Now let's take a look at it. (pause) Have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now that's better. Now let's take a look at it and have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now have your okay go down and be received by the center of the Earth after this.

All right. Now have the center of the Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Did your okay get there?

Audience: Yes. Okay.

All right. Good. Let's have it do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Did your okays get there?

Audience: Yes.

Well, good. Let's have it do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now, heaven. Have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And once more heaven, have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. And once more, say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Oh, you can get better than that with these meanings you're putting into heaven.

All right. Once more, heaven. Have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Once more, have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. And once more, have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Once more have heaven say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Where is it, by the way?

Audience: (various responses)

Well, all right. You sure of that?

Audience: (various responses)

All right. Good. Now let's have hell say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now once more, have hell say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now you make sure this is your meaning you're putting into it now, not something you got someplace. Let's invent one now: meaning into hell. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Once more, have hell say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. And once more have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well fine, fine. Is your okay getting to hell?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Now once more have hell say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Did that okay get there now?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Good. Now once more have hell say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine, that's fine. Now have heaven say it means

(pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, fine. Fine. Good. Now have heaven say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine. Now have New York say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Did New York receive that okay?

Audience: Yes.

All right, good. Now have New York say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, good. Have New York say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

And once more have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Once more have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

And once more have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. And again have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And once more have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And once more have Washington say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Fine. Now have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have London say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now have Australia say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Australia say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Australia say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Oh, you got it located now, huh? All right. Have New Zealand say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have New Zealand say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have New Zealand say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now have Phoenix say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Phoenix say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have Phoenix say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have Phoenix say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Phoenix say it means,. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right, fine. Fine. Now have the right-hand wall say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Fine. Left-hand wall, have it say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. The back wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. The front wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Let's add new meanings every time here. Have the ceiling say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the floor say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, fine. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good, that's fine. Now have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

We sell sunburn ointment very cheaply! (audience laughter)

Have the sun say it means, and give it an okay. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Fine. Now have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Fine. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

If you're having trouble locating it, just say it's there. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the sun say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the moon say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Fine. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now you know your body is saying this now, and you're putting it there. Is that right?

Audience: Yes.

Do you know you're putting that meaning into the body and getting it back? Do you know that? Huh?

Audience: (various responses)

All right. Let's do it again. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the front of the room say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the back of the room say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the right-hand wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Okay. Have the left-hand wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the ceiling say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the floor say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Pick out a member of the opposite sex and have them say they mean. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine. Now pick out a member of your own sex and put it in them, they mean. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Member of your own sex, do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Member of your own sex, do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Member of your own sex, do it again. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the center of Earth say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have the sky say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now make sure it's saying it to you .. .

Male voices: Yeah.

... and have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Now you be the one that puts the meaning in, you understand? Make sure it's your meaning that is put in, and have your body say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have you found out yet? Have your body say it means (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right, fine. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. You getting better at it?

Audience: Yes. Yeah.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Come on now, let's vary those meanings, let's make sure they're yours.

Now have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Well, okay. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

What's happening as you do this? You all sound like you're running down. What's the matter? (audience laughter) All right. Let's have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have your body say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now have the front of the room say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. The back of the room say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. The right-hand wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the left-hand wall say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Have the ceiling say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Okay. Have the floor say it means. (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now let's pick out a member of your own sex and put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Then put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. And put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Now let's originate it. Let's originate it. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Good. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. Put into this person, "I mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And put into the audience, "We mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And put into the audience, "We mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And put into the audience, "We mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

Now you originate it, now. You know you're putting it there, and put into the audience, "We mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. And put into the audience, "We mean." (pause)

Audience: Okay.

All right. How you doing?

Audience: Fine.

Doing pretty good now?

Audience: Yes.

Is that a fact? Knock you cold? Ruin you? Anybody ruined?

Audience: (various responses; laughter)

Somebody's ruined back there, huh? Well, come on — put up your hand if you're ruined. Emergency Auditor can do something for you.

All right. You don't look badly enough ruined, so we'll find your head. (pause) Good. You got that?

Audience: Yes.

Good. You got your head?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Touch somebody else's head and say, "That's my head." (audience talking and laughing)

Good. Now let's touch somebody else's head and say, "That's my head." (audience talking and laughing)

All right. Let's touch somebody else's head and say, "That's my head." (audience talking and laughing)

All right. And touch somebody else's head and say, "That's my head." (audience talking and laughing)

All right. And touch your own head and say, "That's my head."

Audience: That's my head.

All right. Is there any difference?

Audience: (various responses and laughter)

All right. Let's find the floor. (stamping noises)

Good. Let's find the chair.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Let's find the auditor.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Let's find the room.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Let's find the preclear.

Audience: Okay. All right. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Hello.

Audience: Hello. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.