This is December 2nd, first hour night class and we have tonight this first lecture on the axioms.

The second part of this December the second night lecture, going into Q-2. Q-2 is simply uh… an extension of Q-1 and it’s to the effect that theta or a thetan creates space, energy, objects by postulates. That immediately tells you that there must be a Q above Q-l, but what it is I can’t tell you. I don’t know, not in any term that can communicate. I… I sit down, I take a look at that every once in a while. I say thrrr. That’d be very interesting. I’m sure it’s very interesting. Make another postulate.

We have the axioms more or less accumulated in ADVANCED PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS, and in the HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS. ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS is the later issue. There’s a whole rundown of axioms. There’s about two hundred and ten axioms.

It’s a very strange thing about postulates is that in homo sapiens a postulate is accompanied by evaluations and conclusions of data and from a theta level it’s just a postulate. In homo sapiens postulates are made on a time stream. He makes a postulate today and then tomorrow he is the effect of it. Actually a postulate runs this way. Fellow says, „I am… uh… now an elephant. I feel like an elephant.“ That is, he says that in one moment and then boom and the next second he’s an elephant. He feels like an elephant. He could actually say that to himself. Now that’s… that’s a little ridiculous.

These axioms are divided into the Logics and in axioms, now Logics and axioms. All right, why do we have this division? It’s because the Logics apply and seem to apply at the time to a behavior level of thought which was persistent and consistent and didn’t necessarily apply to Homo sap… sapie… sapiens. Excuse me, Homo sap uh… it didn’t necessarily apply to him. But the axioms themselves as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS and HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS apply to Homo sapiens. That’s why they’re in that group. For Homo sapiens every thought is preceded by a counter-effort. Now that’s one level of thinking. That’s to some degree stimulus response thinking.

Now let’s make something a little more, a little more down-to-earth about this. The fellow’s down at the garage and he says to the garage attendant, „Well, that jack looks pretty dangerous. I’ll probably go home and jack up that car and that jack will fall out from under and smash my hand just as sure as shooting.“ He does so, and two hours later he smashes his hand in just that fashion. Probably took a lot of arranging.

That’s not true of a thetan. And so the Logics as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS apply generally to thought, thought and its behavior in any activity. And the axioms, I say, apply peculiarly to Homo sapiens. So let’s pay then attention on these Logics and axioms, particularly to the Logics and then let me tell you that there is a thing above the Logics. And that’s what I’m going to talk to you first about.

I know one fellow that uh… they had the phrase. You get a phrase, a phrase can be an enforced command thing, which an individual then takes as a superior command or even can take as his own postulate. Any decision or statement on a condition of being can be effective on an individual, any statement. Now in homo sapiens, he… he makes a statement or he obeys something which he considers to have a higher level of command than he has, and he has at that moment had this command phrase. And this command phrase could be a statement of condition of being. That’s all it is. So a postulate is a statement of condition of being. It could be more than that. It could be a postulate uh… as a statement of condition of being up to and including the materialization of objects.

There is a series, a whole series, numbering about five, something like that, above the level of logic and above the level of axiom. Now just for pure cussedness, I’ve been calling these things the Qs. Just… just for orneriness… uh… just the letter Q, a mathematical symbol which maybe stands for quotient and maybe it stands for quatrain and maybe it stands for quarantine. We’re not interested in that. We’ll just call them the Qs, just a mathematical designation to differentiate them from other things.

Now, in homo sapiens as I say, he makes the postulate and immediately afterwards he becomes the effect of the postulate. This is then cause and effect strung out on a time stream. I was just talking to you about the reason why. The reason why goes backwards on the time stream, cause to effect goes forward.

Actually, Q can be defined this way: it is the level from which we are now viewing, which is a common denominator to all experience which we can now view. This is the level from which we’re viewing all experience, and which does, by the way, act as a common denominator to all this experience, and the Q is the highest level from which we’re operating. This data then, these Qs, would stand behind everything else that we do.

It is very evident, oh, very evident to people that cause is always in the past and that effect is the present. Now for instance, it’s very obvious in order to make a noise I drop this… this uh… book here. Now you see that, I’ve been cause. Now a little time elapses and the book drops. That becomes very evident, doesn’t it, that uh… that cause is in the past and uh… we’re an effect from a past cause. Well, in view of the fact time doesn’t operate quite that way, uh… man can still be agreed upon and aberrated along this line. The truth of the matter is, the cause was in the future. Why? We’re talking about the drop of this magazine so the desire to have the magazine drop in the future and we’ve got a future drop there which is making a present cause.

And… the first one of these and its corollaries would stand as something… you know LIBERTY MAGAZINE puts a good picture they used to put four stars, give it importance… and ah… in books they very often underscore and put things in italics. Well, you want to put this first Q in italics about… in your auditing, is in your auditing. You want to put it in italics about 125 feet tall and then put 10 to the 21st power binary digits of asterisks after it. It’s took a long time to get this one… but what you can do with it is phenomenal. It’s nothing short of phenomenal. What you can do with this Q, and that of course would be the definition… the noble level of definition now of theta. And we can say then that the highest activity which we now reach is self-determinism in these terms. Self-determinism of theta is the ability to locate in space and time, energy and matter, and to create space and time with which to create and locate energy and matter. That’s number one.

Now, that’s very interesting isn’t it? Now if I, if I, uh… the reason I have to… I have to be an effect to some degree in order to have a cause in the future. The cause, cause you might say is motivated by the future. That’s obvious. You want something in the future. All of your work for instance is motivated by the future. Not motivated by the past. You want to eat tomorrow, why you work today. So the cause is eat tomorrow and the effect is work today.

We ought to have a very good idea what this means. Let’s state it another way. Let’s take… let’s take self-determinism. We know that… the more self-determined we make a preclear why that’s… that’s fine. Uh… he… he gets better. His self-determinism keeps rising; he gets better and better and better. All right, that’s fine. Then what is the limit which we can now attain on something which probably has no limit? And what limit can we attain and define with accuracy? And then having attained it and defined it, how can we apply it and will it apply?

So it… it gets kind of squirreled up, doesn’t it? I mean we don’t have this kind of a silly thing running on the time stream whereby we have cause and then effect and yet… yet the reactive mind operates that way most beautifully. You go back down the genetic line, we look at that GE, he’s taken every counter-effort and he’s figured it out in some way or another to add up the machinery so that he’s made some use of this counter-effort. Wonderful!

All right. Now that means then that here you have something which has… that’s… that’s theta. See it… it has no wave length, it has no position in space, any space, it has no position in time. It hasn’t any form, it hasn’t any shape, but it has an individuality for the individual and it has it’s own ability to be its own beingness and it can locate things in space and time. And when I say things, I mean energy and matter. It could not only do that, but it can create space, in time, in order to create… energy and matter. Now it can do all of those things, that’s… that’s… then therefore our Q is a potential. You could call it a capability.

A beautiful job has been done there because… and then he builds a structure. There’s a reason to build a structure, then we get the structure in. There’s a reason to build a structure: cause and effect, obviously laid out on a time stream, isn’t it? You want… you want to view with considerable suspicion anything that can be explained equally well in two different ways.

Now I won’t say how many other capabilities theta has, but in this universe or in the universe which you create we KNOW it has those capabilities. We’re… we’re sure of this. This is a good anchor to windward; this is a brick wall; this is a fortress. This is stuff. This is really good.

If you can explain that a cause is in the future and is an effect in the present; that a cause is in the past and is an effect in the present and is the same order of cause which is causing the same order of - hmm, what the hell is this all about? You mean… you mean we’re just standing in the middle of all of this getting machine-gunned, huh? We find effect is pretty well in the present. Well but then, cause is in the future, cause is in the past, well, cause is in present time. Um… let’s see, effect’s in the past.

Now a datum is really just as good to an individual as it’s workable, it’s no better than that. Even though it were going to be addressed to the aesthetic world, even though it were going to be addressed to aesthetics. Does it produce an aesthetic effect? That means it’s workable. So don’t get WORKABLE down there with digging ditches.

This universe has a law, it has an interesting law. It says: If you make a cause in the present you cannot effect or make an effect out of the Roman Empire because that was 2000 years ago and the day you can change the Roman Empire in the past by making a cause in the future, why you’re doing all right. That… that would be a reversal of the whole proceedings. Hmmm. We’ll know much more about this when we get onto time. Hut just let me say this at the moment: There isn’t any past, there isn’t any future. And at present time, this instance of awareness in present time might as well be across a period, present time might be 800 billion years long and it might be a sixth of an inch long, and it might be a lot of things which it isn’t.

Will it do what we’re supposed to be able to do with it? Now, will it do these things or won’t it do these things? When we make that statement about theta, we follow that thing out, we say all right this is the theory, let’s now see if with it we can predict the existence of new phenomena which when looked for will be found to exist. And sure enough… sure enough. This predicts data. It predicts phenomena and if you use it in auditing, it keeps increasing the individual capability up, up, up, up, up with a very sure, good, solid gain. So far, there’ve been no exceptions to this. It’s not a variable then, it’s a constant.

But so, I’m making this quite clear. We process postulates out of people. In homo sapiens a postulate is made because of evaluations and conclusions so that he gets associative logic. He gets a fascinating parade there of a little gradient scale. There’s this, leads into this, leads into this, leads into this. Let’s see: For want of a message the battle was lost - no, that’s the wrong way to. It’s: For want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of a shoe the horse was lost, for want of a horse the rider was lost, for want of a rider the message was lost, for want of a message the battle was lost, and all for the loss of a horseshoe nail. That’s a time stream cause and effect and that’s also a piece of logic.

Now this isn’t everything that theta can do. This only says… this only says that we know for sure from the plane we’re operating on that theta could have or does create the space, and energy and matter which is the MEST universe and can move the energy and matter around in the MEST universe. And that, at the same time, it can create space and energy to make another universe. We know these two conditions exist. We can see those existing, and… uh… we can experience them. And actually, for man, a datum is just as good as he can experience it. And if he can experience a datum very broadly, it could be said to be a good usable workable datum. And if he… it… it’s just as… we… we might have some thundering fundamental capital Truth here.

That’s a growing effect from a cause and you can follow that logically. All right, that’s… that’s just… just great; if all of this held true all the way along the line, it’d be very nice, but as I said, you eat tomorrow and the cause is the necessity to eat tomorrow and you work today. So it’s the other way too. Well, there could be two levels of thinking then. You could have a postulate without regard to evaluations, conclusions or time. And that would be a theta postulate. And a postulate then on the theta, high theta level postulate would be a postulate made without regard to evaluations. This is out… without regard necessarily, to evaluations, conclusions, or time. So there’s a whole… whole uh… whole bunch of thinking there all of a sudden, isn’t there. There’s a whole horizon of thinking that has nothing whatsoever to do with logic. It has nothing to do with anything that has anything to do with anything. I mean, it’s just a uh… you could just arbitrarily think…

We… we might have some terrific truth and it could be stated, it could be stated, by K + Y over the square root of the minus Zed equals cats tails.

If you really look at it, you can see that a postulate is the introduction of an arbitrary toward some goal or not toward any goal. That tells you that you can undo a postulate on the theta level in present time. Now a theta level postulate is always senior to an associative stimulus- response postulate. These associative stimulus-response postulates – you see the fellow make the postulate, he says, „I’m gonna go home.“ He might as well have said, „I’m going home and smash my hand with this jack.“ He goes home and he smashes his hand with a jack. That’s homo sapiens, that is… has actually back of it way back somewhere on the track, you’ll find some kind of a postulate sitting there and this postulate has an evaluation and has a conclusion. The way to survive is to die. That is the most normal evaluation conclusion sequence on a postulate.

And you say, „Cats tails? I don’t have much to do with cats tails.“ And you would say, „Well, that’s the truth behind cat tails. K + Y over the square root of minus Zed.“ „Humph.“

Uh… any evaluation or conclusion can be worked around to this. Now the way to die is to survive, now the way to survive is to die. It’ll be something almost as idiotic as that. Evaluation conclusion; it means this datum plus this datum plus this datum plus this datum leads to the conclusion that this datum and this datum and this datum and this datum are true, therefore the way to solve this IS to…

You say, „Well, so what?“

Then we make a postulate, and travel along the time track with everything monitored by this postulate. The fellow says, „I will never get rich.“ He never does. He says, „I… I’m… my health is sort of poor.“ So it is. He’s tailor-made himself a frame of existence with the stimulus-response postulates born out of actually MEST universe impressions against him.

But you say, „Look, man’s search for this answer as far as cats tails were concerned; this applies not only to Persian cats but to Siamese and not only to Siamese but to alley cats.“ No workability.

Now you’d think as an auditor – it’s quite important in auditing to know this – you’d think that you have to go back on the time track to change postulates. You drill a person for a very short time with mock-up processing, one of the most important lessons he learns - and he learns this instinctively; you don’t have to instruct your preclear on this at all. You do have to instruct him about time. But you don’t have to instruct him even vaguely on the subject of remaking postulates.

It doesn’t matter how true the datum is then. It… It’s how well can you make it work and how such work will it do for you. Well, this datum… this datum is really a nice big draft horse. It’s a big super… ah… ah… super engine sitting in the local power station. It’s atomic power. This thing… this thing, you can make things like… you can make things like, oh I don’t know. You can even make little things… you can even make small unimportant and nonpowerful things like H-bombs with it. Because compared to it, they’re not the same order of magnitude.

He says, „It’s there and then it’s there and then it’s there and it’s hot and it’s cold,“ and he says, „It’s going to be there for a while.“ And right away he says, „It’s not there.“ He’ll make a liar out of himself a million times a minute if he wants to. He… he can just make a postulate and he doesn’t have to say that postulate’s no longer in existence. He just makes another postulate.

What are you talking about? You’re talking about this phenomenal thing this… this… this phenomenal thing which actually has an existence.

And he’ll learn this very rapidly. He just makes a postulate and then makes another postulate and he can make a postulate and he can make another postulate. These postulates merely apply then, to a present state or a desired future or anything he wants to say they apply to. But, on a theta level, there’s a little bit of trouble, way up on a theta level, is you get tired of, uh… you get tired of duration getting upset. You want something to endure.

How do we know it has an existence? Because you get a preclear up the line and all of a sudden he says, „Hey!“ He’s been telling you all the time he’s retreated into space to such a degree that he’s dispersed so he keeps telling you, „I’m not in space anyplace.“ Well, you know where he is, he’s… he’s gotta be collected before he can find the space he’s in in order to get out of that and get into his own space so he can get out of that and not be in any space.

So you start into the curve of automaticity. Automaticity is simply making things stick, and making things automatic and making things so you don’t have to watch ‘em all the time. That’s the lazy man’s way of doing it. You can make a continuing postulate! It… it requires your attention all the time, you… you have in this universe - you’ve made up twelve dogs and you have to do the thinking for all twelve of those dogs. So you do the thinking for 12 dogs. Plus one hundred and eighty deer plus sixteen vestal virgins plus anything else you might have, or nymphs, or satyrs, or anything else you might have in this universe. You can do independent thinking for a number of objects at the same time as long as you have yourself free of a time stream.

Well, here he is… here he is, then thoroughly collected and then he controls space and then he all of a sudden he’ll say, „Hey, isn’t this wonderful, there’s no space around here.“ Otherwise he’ll say, „Well, I don’t think I’m there at all. Really I’m probably… probably out, I’m probably outside this universe.“ No, you don’t want that. The guy discovers this as a wonderful datum - there’s no motion, there’s no space where he is. It’s very comfortably so. No motion, no space. You say, „Make some space.“

You give them a time stream and you move in and out of it at will so it can become very, very loose. And the point you have to know, two things, points you have to know is: one, space and energy and objects are created by postulates, and they are changed by postulates and they are destroyed by postulates, and that postulates from a theta level do not have any order of precedence because of a time stream.

He’ll say, „Okay,“ zing, zing, „there’s a space.“

It’s your homo sapiens as you process him – and that’s one of the beauties of creative processing – Your homo sapiens, he’s gone through this agonizing death, he’s been killed dead. Uh… he is lying there and he… he – as he was dying, he said, „I’ll never go through anything like that again so long as I live. And, uh… I would rather be killed than to be faced with such a decision again and it’s a good thing I’m dying and I’m good for nothing but this.“ And all of a sudden one day this is a facsimile that lies obviously on the time stream and it sits there and one day somebody else comes in on the other side of it and starts jabbing him about his being good for nothing. Throwing energy at it this way or he starts throwing energy at it; it’s sitting out here. It’s an actual geographical point and area and he…

„Now unmake it.“

One day, it says… he says, „I’m good for nothing and I just have that feeling all the time.“ And you… you as an auditor of past techniques have had to go back, go back on the time track and try and figure and figure and so on and finally run out this thing and grind and grind and grind and grind and it gets so it’s all ground down finally and all of a sudden BOOM there’s the postulate, springs into view. He reevaluates the postulate, BANG it’s out and he feels pretty good about it, after you’ve worked for many many hours. That’s… that’s senseless. Just because that thing is sitting on a ridge with a time tab on it is no reason you have to find it and grind it to pieces. Because it’s not sitting on any lineal time track in space. It’s just sitting on a geographically located ridge with regard to your preclear, and it’s in action out there when it’s hit. Now there could be a dozen ways.

„Why?“

You just teach him that he could make postulates at will and it doesn’t matter how many postulates are in that thing. It won’t have any effect on him, because he can handle postulates. He can take responsibility for making up his mind and the first moment that he can take responsibility for making up his mind, he could make up his mind and unmake his mind and make his mind and unmake his mind a dozen times in a minute on the same subject and emerge with… without uh… for no reason at all.

„Well, go ahead, unmake it.“ „Why?“ The guy says, „Why should I? I just put something in it!“

He says, „The dog’s going to run that way, he’s going to run this way, he’s going to run that way, he’s going to run that way. I want this dog to continue for the rest of his normal existence, for years, I want him to keep on running in that direction. Oh, I think I’ll have him run this way.“ It is just very easy and he all of a sudden finds the facility with which he can make a postulate and one of the things in creative processing he’s particularly amazed at, is to suddenly locate the fact that he has a godly quality of making it stick.

Hey you know that’s very interesting, you know. Skip it. I mean, you… you’re not going to be able to audit this boy.

In his universe, when he says, „There will be light.“ - There’s light! „There won’t be light.“ – There is no light. „I think I’ll have pink light. New, that’s no good; green light. Now let’s light this whole thing… let’s put four orange-colored suns which have square orbits. Now tha… that’s what we need in this universe.“ And he’ll just let them sit there.

That’s no kidding. Of course, of course that is so high above any preclear you ever find and don’t ever let one get away with it, because he’s w-a-a-y up there. He’s way up there. He’d be so able that he could actually mock something up that was brighter and shinier and had greater workability than this stuff which is kinda old and messed around with and kinda stale and mildewed and it’s… it’s sad too. This stuff is sad. It says, „Here I have been serving you and we were built for you and you can use this universe and we have given our all to help you out, and eh so on. And we built all this for you and you must be careful how you use it,“ and so on. That’s a fact. Ah… that’s… ah… you’ll find preclears way down tone scale dramatizing this as auditors. You just get them to have the beautiful sadness of being the last auditor on Earth. They’re way down tone scale, can’t get out of their bodies, they… nothing is… but they’re auditing like mad, and you… you… you, „Now get the beautiful sadness of being the last person on Earth, nobody else here, you freed everybody. Now get the beautiful sadness of everybody going away and the last couple of preclears looking at you and saying, „Well, goodbye, I’m sorry we couldn’t take you with us. Now get the beautiful sadness of that and get that little statue, the small statue there that they made of you and so on and you can sit there and look at that statue while the others are all gone, see.“

And uh… that’s fine. One day he’s tired of those things, but the strange part of it is when he says so, it’s so. Now somebody has coaxed him that – all you had to do to really deteriorate somebody is to demonstrate conclusively to him that just because he says so it isn’t so. That’s a big point of aberration. Just because HE says so, that doesn’t make it so.

He’ll say, „Yes. Hey, wait a minute!“ He says, „This is the way I feel.“

There’s lots of ways this mechanism is spread out through this society. One of the longer and further reaches of it is this one: „You think you’re so important, go down to the graveyard and look at the graves down there. There’s a lot of guys down there that thought they were important too.“

Well, that’s the way MEST feels… if… if you really start penetrating and plopping around in it. It’s interesting stuff. Well anyway… of course you can make it feel any way you want to. But… uh… it does have a native feel.

So what do we have then? We have the fellow making a postulate unknowingly being under the pressure of the MEST universe. He still kind of has this weird idea of undifferentiation. He got the identification of his own universe and the MEST universe and he makes this postulate here in the MEST universe and the next thing you know he said… he said, uh… you need some kind of a command phrase. He said uh… „Take that train down the track and uh… I don’t care if the train oughta go fast and you shouldn’t be hanging around like that. You make up that time between,“ and the train jumps the track and eighty-four people killed and rrrrr, he didn’t want to make that postulate.

All right, your Q, produces your universes along very definite lines, such as the MEST universe. Or it produces universes of completely ephemeral lines, or it doesn’t produce a universe at all. Self- determinism. But in order to produce a universe you first would have to be able to pretty will handle a universe. And a universe can be patterned to have eight dynamics. This one is. But you could have a universe with eighty-two dynamics, sixteen dynamics, and square root space. What’s square root space? I don’t know. I never made any square root space. I’ve made cube root space, and logarithmic space, but logarithmic space is a lot of fun. Let me tell you about logarithmic sp…

And that’s a part of „I don’t want to make any decision about it.“ And that is in essence no responsibility. Unwillingness to make a decision or unwillingness to make a condition of being is the highest essence of no responsibility. The next echelon immediately down is: Responsibility is force.

Gee, does a guy get fouled up traveling in logarithmic space. It’s wonderful. There’s twisted space too. You can make twisted space. You can make all these, anything you can draw a mathematical symbol for, you can make that kind of space. Furthermore, you can experience that kind of space, which is better than you can do with a mathematical formula. And it’s quite interesting to make some space and experience it and so forth.

All right, now, condition of being, I don’t want to make the condition of being. One of the things that you can knock an E-Meter practically off of its pin on, is to say to this preclear, „Okay, now what if everything you said came true?“

Yeah, well, anyway, getting back to Earth again. We have… we have, then, this as our highest level of attack. This is above the level of survival; it is above the level of beingness. It is way above the level of action. Oddly enough, it’s above the level of identity, as such. But it is way up at the top level of individuality. People have had the idea that when you got up there along top… of course, you know you have to kind of get up there a little bit and take a look to see if there’s anything much higher, and… uh… people have had the idea that this… this… ah… there was just a main body of theta and everybody became one when you got to the top of the tone scale. Fortunately, that isn’t true.

„Oh no.“

Yeah. But you go down tone scale and everybody becomes one and the oneness is MEST. And there’s no individuality whatsoever in MEST. This chair does not care who lifts it around. Doesn’t matter who lifts it around, could be a member of the Fifth Invader Force or you or me or anybody. It doesn’t matter. Somebody could jump in here from anyplace under the sun and move the chair around. It doesn’t say, „Excuse me,“ it doesn’t say, „I hurt.“ It is the true brotherhood of the MEST universe. It’s a brotherhood. It’s… it’s gone to a point, though, where it doesn’t even wear a badge.

„Yeah I wonder,“ you’ll have… the guy’s going around sometimes, „I wonder if I thought that that… I wonder if I was… any intention on my part to have that dog run under the wheels of my car. I wonder if I… I kind of accidentally thought this. And if I thought this, that’s what made the dog run under the wheels of the car. And that’s why. Oh, gee, and I didn’t want to kill that dog. That’s horrible.“

But it has an identity. This is a chair. And not only that, this is the chair that stands on this lecture platform and it is a black chair, and… I don’t even think it would know if we named it… if we named it… uh… Mahidable. But we could call this the chair named Mahidable. There it is.

So there you go. Now what… what’s the… what’s the - of course, in his own universe, he wouldn’t have gotten into the silly situation because he… nothing would have been crossing him up all the time. He wouldn’t have gotten into the silly situation of where he would make a postulate without knowing it. He’s already removed himself, he’s made a postulate - he doesn’t know if he makes these postulates and if these things come true or if they don’t come true. There’s a type of insanity, by the way.

I notice after I let it sit there that it… it just sits there. It didn’t get up. It didn’t, say, it didn’t adjust itself back to where it was before. It didn’t do anything at all. I could came over here and kick this chair a little bit. Did it say, „Ouch?“ Maybe it felt ouch. I don’t know… that but it didn’t say, „Ouch.“ It’s just an identity, with no individuality.

This thing can become exaggerated; any function of the mind, by the way, can become exaggerated to be an insanity. Any insanity is an exaggerated function which already exists in the mind. Any neurosis is simply that. It’s some thing that the mind can do which has become, well, actually exaggerated or inhibited. And you’ll get both of those working together.

Individuality depends upon being able to make identities. And what do you know about a little kid? He runs around. He’s Buck Rogers, he’s in… in the old days, he was Jesse James. In the days before that, he was Dick Turpin or somebody else. I imagine once upon a time they were… all little kids were running around being Richard the Lionhearted, then earlier than that they were all rushing around being Merlin or earlier than that, why, God knows. I imagine in Rome the little Kids ran up and down with… with, uh… without even wooden swords in their hands being Julius Caesar. But they’d be Julius Caesar this afternoon and Tiberius tomorrow and Caligula the next day. They didn’t care how many identities. But if you asked this little kid, „Are you an individual?“ Oh boy. He sure was.

All right. Now let’s look at this thing about postulating. He’s afraid that what he says will come true. After a while he doesn’t want his orders to stick. The… the dispatcher, if you can… if you ever find on your hands a dispatcher of World War II for a fighter squadron, well you remember what I’m telling you now. Uh… he said, „Well, you boys, now.“ he said, so on, uh… „And go on over there and that’s your patrol area. Bill, uh… you’ll have to take Ed’s place.“

The mostest individuality he ever has in Homo sapiens’s lifespan is when he’s a little kid. His concept of dignity when he is a small child is something that would completely ruin some of the elderly matrons who chuck it under the chin and say, „Itsy bitsy goochie woo.“ This kid looks at them, looks could kill.

And Bill goes out and gets himself bumped off deader than a mackerel.

Now, here then… here then we’re talking about an ultimate individuality that is attainable. And when I say ultimate I don’t mean absolute. There’s probably a lot of individuality left as we go up from there, probably a LOT of it. There’s probably a lot of other things that can be done.

Rrrrr. Now this fellow doesn’t want to make these decisions anymore. He doesn’t want to be the boy who says so. And when the day he says and becomes the fellow doesn’t want to say so, he might as well be dead and buried, because he’s going to be unhappy and miserable from there on, because he’s abdicated from the last shadow of his own universe.

I know of three frames positively outside this universe. There’s a universe outside this universe and there’s a universe outside that and its set of universes, and there’s a universe outside that universe. And I know the one beyond that. And it’s not necess… they’re not necessarily getting thinner or more unsubstantial but they don’t run according to the same laws. E equals MC squared won’t work in ‘em. That is not a native characteristic of energy. It just happens to be.

He’s off the throne now; he’s just a bum. So your preclear will find one of the toughest things to handle is postulates and you, of course, sneak up on him on this. You’re making a whole bunch of postulates for him to which he’s agreeing. But those postulates are not in the direction of his deterioration; the direction of those postulates are up toward Q-l.

Now this universe might be called… it could be that this MEST universe is the inevitable average of agreement, the inevitable average of illusion. If you… if you had a bunch of people and… and they kept mocking up illusions and mocking up illusions, and agreeing and agreeing, you might say that it would become the inevitable average of this agreement amongst illusions. Now I wouldn’t know that that holds good but it happens that it might happen over such a long… long phase of time. That’s horrible. Ah… it might happen over such a large mass as the MEST universe. The MEST universe is a large mass, not a long time.

And, you’re… you’re going up higher and higher and higher. Now if you wanted to drive him the other way to - I might as well tell you that you can take Q-1 and go the other way to. You… you could tell this preclear, „Now all right, now you get that thing out in front of you there, and you get that mock-up, yeah all right. You mock that up? Oh, you did? Oh. You mean YOU SAW IT? Well, let’s take the second test on this thing. Let’s see if by any chance you… you can move it. Oh, you can move it. Ohhhhh. Well, I’ll tell you, we’ll have to send you to the hospital for a week or so because we’ll have to have this condition corrected. You mean you see things and then you think you move them around. And you see things and… and so forth and you think… Well, that’s very strange.“ Why, actually that would be about the fastest road out.

Now there being a large mass this might have come into being because of that. I don’t know that. But I do know… I do know that I have already seen enough of universes to know that they don’t run on the same laws. That’s very very astonishing. And I do know that every individual is perfectly capable of making one. Well, don’t say that it has to be just a little tiny one that you’d keep in a jewel box or anything of the sort. It could be probably pretty big.

The other one is… is, „That isn’t what happened. You didn’t perceive that and that is not what happened.“ Now if you could work it out anyway to demonstrate that locationally.

How many universes could you have in the available… universes? Of course the number is infinity. This MEST universe, being a postulated dimension which you agree upon, could very easily… if we’re speaking of dimension, you have a postulated dimension, all you’ve got to do is… is change its space coordinates just a little bit and it can sit right there. You… if you see… space can’t even be coincident. You get… the truth of the matter is you can’t even talk about one piece of space crossing another piece of space in view of the fact that space is a postulated agreement and if… if space is a postulated agreement, the only way you could get one piece of space sitting across another piece of space would be a very simple thing. You could have a fellow say, let’s see, „Up IS, front IS and width IS, but width is also up here 45 degrees and up is slightly down to the left and this is width.“ And he’s got those two sections of space simultaneously.

The fellow says, the fellow says, „Well, I was down there and the car went and turned the corner.“ You say, „It didn’t turn that corner, it was a block earlier.“ Fellow says, „No, it did turn that other corner.“ And you say, „No, no, no, it was this corner.“ Ohhh, he can just feel his brains creak after a while.

Now wouldn’t he be in horrible shape. He’s got two sections of space simultaneously and he’s trying all the time he’s got these two sections, these two pieces of dimension… You see, the only reason they’re scrambled is because he’s on a… on a maybe. And then maybe he has a space that he calls time and he keeps shoving this space he calls time around. ‘Course, if doesn’t go anyplace. But… and he’s all fouled up on the subject of time but he’s got another space that kind of introduces itself on him all the time.

You know there are certain women, there are certain women who live with men who do this to them all the time. And there are certain men who live with women who do this to them all the time, and that is about the grimmest kind of existence. „No dear, it went that way.“ „Yes dear, no I know, you just didn’t remember that,“ and so on and, „Where did you put it? You never know where you put anything.“ You get all those kicks?

What do you know, that’s your preclear. He doesn’t know… he doesn’t know any difference really between MEST universe space and his own universe space. He’s never differentiated between the two. He’s still holding on to the one and trying to view the other. People who have directional reversals, people who do the darndest things with regard to space, it’s fascinating.

„Now don’t say things like that.“ And as a little kid, as a little kid, „Don’t hold your face like that, it might get frozen that way.“ ‘Cause those things are working dead-center, you see, on Q-l, Q-2, there just working dead-center and they’ll flip a fellow faster than anything you’ll want to flip him with.

You… you… some person will go out and he’ll look at the stars and he sees the heavens in three dimensions, just as nice as you please. Well, he’s got a pretty good idea of space. And the thing about it is, is he will tell you which is the furthest star, which is the further star. You’d check it up on your maps. It isn’t the brightness of the star that measures its distance because some of the very bright stars are quite far away and some of the dim stars are quite close. And he’ll say that, „Well, that star is quite a distance and then all those other stars are way behind that. I… I can see that from where I am.“ You can say he couldn’t possibly have that small a parallax and still be able to measure it. Couldn’t possibly. And yet you look it up on an astronomy chart what he’s just told you and you get the same dimensions.

You just destroy his ability to put things in space and time, or reduce that ability and make him have the feeling that what he says won’t come true. Or if it did, it would be a bad thing.

Now… this… you get an approximation of what he was trying to tell you. Yeah, now that’s… those… that bright star IS further than those two dim stars. They see depth in space. Well, they’d… they’d have a pretty good concept of the dimensions of this universe if they were doing something like that.

„Well, it’s a good thing that didn’t… it’s a good thing you weren’t right about that.“

The other fellow goes out and gee, some of those stars appear to be floating about a foot above his head. He just doesn’t have any distance to those stars at all and they’re all flat. And somebody else goes out and they’re all tipped some other way. He can see plainly that the heavens run off that way and he goes… as you get further to the south, why they’re just going up. Maybe you’d observe this closer if you’d just ask a few people how stars look to then. And if you ask them searchingly they will tell you that there is a difference in observation of space, which is the only point I’m making here. There’s differences.

„Yeah,“ the fellow says, the poor guy, he agrees with that one. „Yeah, it’s a good thing I wasn’t right; I’m sure glad I wasn’t right about that.“

What’s this got to do with auditing? Well, it has really everything to do with auditing. You will notice… give you a practical example of this. I’ve consistently with mock-ups told people to move it to the right, to move it to the left, to put it above their heads, behind their backs and under their feet. I’ve told them to put it a distance from them, bring it close to them. Told them to put it out in the street, up on the wall, here, there. What am I doing? I’m changing the position of an object… in space. And it is more important to change the position of the mock-up in space than it is to change its color or anything else. Location in space. And that starts up and becomes about the high… the high-level function in processing then because, why? The effort… the effort and thought of your preclear is to attain self-determinism and self-determinism could be said to be an effort to attain the goals of theta.

That’s the fast road to the spinbin. Now, therefore all I’m trying to say this with Q-2 is that a postulate is timeless, and it does not necessarily have to unmade by unmaking it, it’s only unmade by making another postulate. And it doesn’t even necessarily have to continue in existence or have any duration to be a postulate in any way.

And the goals of theta which we can observe - and it maybe has many more goals - is to locate energy and matter in space and time; and to locate, additionally - quite an addition - and create space that you can locate energy and matter in. So when we start in with processing, why, we be very sure that we’re relocating all the time. What’s the biggest trouble he has? That first little trouble you run into with a pc? He can’t move it around. This surprises him a great deal. He knows you need 10 ton trucks, winches, chains, everything else to move something.

It doesn’t have to have a cause for existence. It doesn’t have to have, oh pardon me, a reason for existence. A person making a postulate is being cause in what we find now to be the highest level. So we’re studying cause and effect. What is the highest level cause. The highest level cause is a postulate.

Well, now we’ll have to take up time later on but time is a quite finite and very, very easily understandable thing so let’s not stress time right at here, at this point.

Does a higher level cause have to have a reason? No. No reason whatsoever. You say, „All the moons are now going to be made out of green cheese as far as I’m concerned,“ that’s that. There isn’t any reason for that except maybe randomity. He just wants a different kind of a moon or he’s just saying it or he’s bored that day or it’s raining. Or… or maybe he even explains itself to him this way, well the number of loaves of bread in Twodawhella uh… were divided by the square root of six, so therefore the moon, in this universe, will be at one quarter perpetually.

Let’s take that as a goal level of theta. This means then in processing to restore self-determinism you make your strongest effort, and actually your only effort, the attainment of the goals of theta, and the goals of theta are its capabilities. Capability is theta. Q one: Theta is… no wave length in it, no position in time and space, has no mass, has no duration, hasn’t any one of these things, but it has the potential or capability of locating in space and time, energy and matter and creating… creating space in which to create energy and matter. And that’s… it’s all there are to it.

Somebody might come along and say to him - you see, if he were in this universe and he had a lot of people around him and he… he just had a small group of thetans in his own universe with him or… or he’s part of a group that’s making a universe, something of this sort, that… that will only go to pieces at the time when they come along and say, „Why did you make the moon out of that quarter. I mean why… why is the moon always at a quarter? Now the moon oughta be not at a quarter. We ought to have the moon at a half and you didn’t have any reason for it, did you? Now you have to confess, you didn’t have a reason for it.“

Now, that… that… that’s… that’s… how’d… how anyone get to any such a… any… any such a conclusion? Then you’ll… you’ll watch this work… you’ll watch this work with a deadliness that you will begin to wonder, for God’s sakes what have I got my hands on here, every now and then. Because actually it… you’re… you’re working all out.

Now what do you get in this society continually? Well, there must have been some reason for it. Well, you had to have a reason or you wouldn’t have done such a thing. Oh boy, that’s really taking away power out of a person’s hand. You don’t have to have a reason to do anything.

Now, someday I’ll find a higher Q or you will or somebody else will. They can do something out and beyond and broader than that. And when that is attained, why, we’ll have another big surge forward in capabilities.

But when you look at this universe, you’re examining cause and effect upon a time stream. And so you have cause being succeeded by an effect - apparently. And as a result you have an aberrated condition developing because the person can never go otherwise than downhill.

But this Q about which I am telling you now was a goal, I said that there were several echelons and that we were going through the second echelon of knowledge with effort processing. And we’re slightly into the fringes of a third echelon. Well, we just busted through the roof of the third echelon.

If every postulate he has ever made is still in effect and all he can do is slightly modify the limits, you’ll find him getting into a narrower and narrower sphere of action; he can’t help but get into a small sphere of action. He’s getting into less and less action and what does MEST do - it doesn’t make a single postulate. That chair there hasn’t made a postulate all evening.

Now, what lies in the fourth echelon? I don’t know. But I know that visible and usable and for the first time really satisfactorily usable, on a broad level, is this Q-1 because with this, the second you start using this your preclear stops asking that inane question.

It hasn’t decided that the platform would now be carpeted in green. It hasn’t decided anything. It has no opinion and the fellow gets beaten down on this dwindling spiral of postulates, because he’s got an unending stream. That’s one of the reasons why most people are very, very happy not to have any connection with the last life. That’s gone.

Uh… this question is something. It becomes very hard to understand this question, that anybody would ask this question, but they say, „Why are we here? What is the reason for all this?“

The heck it is; you start processing engrams and you’ll find out they’re strewn all up and down the track there.

You say, reason, that’s point zero, about, fi… point about fifteen zeros one five or something like that, wave length, capability, perception, reason… „What are you talking about?“

He has said, „I have no responsibility for the postulates I made during that lifetime. The decisions which I made must have no influence upon me now and I’m free and clear. I’ve got a new body; I’m all set. I’m now a homo sapiens. I’m on my way. I’m going to get educated again.“ What a deceit!

And he’ll say, „What is the reason? What do… What do I… What’s the reason? I mean, why are we here?“

The guy is sitting there with an Oxford education and Rhodes scholar and he was also an honor graduate at one time at Princeton and here he is in kindergarten learning how to spell.

„Well, you mean,“ you say, „prior cause.“ „Oh, you mean there must be a prior cause in this universe?“

You spring him out of his body, you ask him very quickly, you say, „Hey, by the way, you got any bank there that has to do with any university?“ And he says, „Okay, yeah, I’ve got one here.“ And you say, „Well, pull any bad stuff out of it, strip any bad characteristics you don’t want out.“ And he says, „There’s a couple I don’t like. Looks pretty good.“

„No, no, no, why are we here?“

„What’s it contain?“ „Well, there’s French and there’s German, and I studied Greek. And there’s a lot of seminaries… oh, no, we don’t want any of that!“

And you say, „What do you mean by ‘Why are we here’?“

And you say… you say, „You got that bank all okay now?“

„Well just that. Why are we here?“

„That’s right.“ You say, „Plug it into the motor controls. Plug it in.“ BANG! Sounds incredible, doesn’t it? Well, it’s true. There’s this kind of I an experience, uh… fellow says, „I always wished I could play the piano.“

You say, „What do you mean by that?“ „Well I want the REASON why we’re here.“

You say, „Well, were you ever able to play the piano?“ And the E-Meter says yeah, he was able to play the piano. So you say, „Well, step a couple of feet back of your head and let’s find all those facsimiles playing the piano. You got all those facsimiles playing the piano? Let’s take out a couple, three, four here. Now let’s plug it into the motor controls. All right, can you play the piano?“ „Yes, I can play the piano.“

„Well, look, look,“ you say, „Reason has to do with associative processes.“ Now if you could associate anything you would eventually find the association coming back to the same point you left. You could keep going around in this circle, or you could make a spiral out of it, anyway you want to. But when you say the REASON for something, you’re asking for a gradient scale of data. So if you’ve got a gradient scale of data, it takes the space and the time in which to have a gradient scale of data. And this can go round and round this way. Don’t ask about the gradient scale of data in a space and a time because it will wind up with itself always. It can never do otherwise.

He goes in and plays the piano, bang.

Your reason applies to one universe at one time. You would apply reason. Now you have to… before you can have a reason you have to have a rationale. You have to have… have to have a cause.

Hmm, incredible, isn’t it? Uh… your preclear has to be in pretty good condition. He has to be a good theta clear, pretty well clear, when he really starts to do this. Very good. Actually, that’s as silly as hell. That’s very silly.

And when they say, „What is the reason I’m here?“ They’re talking about… Now look. There’s… you well know there is a cause prior to cause. Oh, the Greeks got around this. They did a beautiful job, did a beautiful job of this whole thing. They said, „Hell, now…“

There isn’t any reason under the sun why you should learn how to manipulate a piano keys and handle that great big ornery mean piece of MEST and handle these things. There isn’t any reason why you have to go through all that agony, if all you’re got to do is mock up not only a piano but a beautiful symphony orchestra playing behind it and make it audible. Now you admit that would be a superior skill, don’t you?

Well, I could probably tell you about a much better one than the Greeks. This Hindu, I’ve mentioned this occasionally in a lecture, the Hindus had an awful time. The priests were asked and asked and asked, „What’s the world like?“

That’s an easy one though. That’s… that… that… that’s very easy. Why do you have to go back on the time track and pick up MEST universe training? It’s MEST universe energy, it’s old, it’s second-hand, you made it, but it’s second-hand. It’s… it’s all bunged up. It’s… it’s got slivers in it and… and so forth. And it’s all so sad anyway, and it was built on broken hopes and lost dreams and „I can’t control anything, and I don’t dare make any postulates and here I am.“ And gee, so why worry about that?

They finally said… they finally said, „Well, the world is a… is a hemisphere,“ and… and people were satisfied with that.

That’s one of the things your boy starts to come to a conclusion to on creative processing. He finds out he can make a postulate and bring anything he wants to into existence in his own universe. Now it’s not very many steps from that if he wants to do the idiotic stunt of coming back and making it effective on this universe.

And they finally said, „What’s the hemisphere sitting on?“

It’s not very many steps back to being able to do that to this universe. Horrible. That’s what we’ve gotten so far from Q-1 and Q-2. What’s a postulate? A postulate is simply a command statement of being. Nothing more, nothing less. Now let’s get a couple other small conditions there and that has to do with, does theta, to answer the question: Does theta necessarily have no wave length? Well, uh… theta from the level your preclear is operating - he is always operating above the level where he is in action.

And they said, „Well, this hemisphere’s sitting on… humm…“ And they went and did a big study and they came hack and they said, „The hemisphere is sitting on seven pillars.“

He has to operate from above the level where he is in action. You see why this is? Because he has to have a command altitude over the action which he is undertaking. So he’s always just a little bit above, you might say, or a little bit less so.

That held them for a while and then some wiseacre, some revolutionary went in and busted the whole thing up and he says, „What are the pillars sitting on?“

So you’ll find your first thetans, they conceive themselves to be energy units. Well, they think they’re real hot as energy units. And then they’ll go on and they - without discovering or freeing up their postulates by creative processing, without trying to build any universe of their own, without trying to do all of these things toward creation, increase, decrease, destruction of matter, energy, space and time in their own universe, without trying to do any of these things - the fellow just starts trying to build up that energy. „Let’s see, now why can’t I build up this energy. Let’s see, if I agree a little more closely with the MEST universe, I will be able to build up a lot, blah blah blah.“ That’s what’s the matter with the MEST universe.

And… uh… well, the fellow said, the priest said, „Sitting on elephants, sitting on the backs of seven elephants.“

You land here and you find these tremendous quantities evidently of… of already created agreements and you just fall very easily into these created agreements, and so on. And what do you know, you have all the energy you want. This is the… the universe of plenty with the main trick of creating scarcities with that plenty. Oh, this is… this is a honey! This… this… this really gets to be a grim joke when you start along the line a little further in this material because you create plenty. You create plenty, and then… then teach everybody that he hasn’t got any. And this keeps him in there and agreeing. You… you make people… make people agree with the MEST universe by telling them that he can’t have any and then… then, as soon as you… you start wanting him really to agree and he’s… he’s decided he can’t have any, he starts to go into apathy or something, you shovel him a lot of it. Give him a lot of MEST. That fixes him. That’s what he asked for in the first place, and he winds up clear down at the bottom of the scale on this process. There’s plenty of it - there’s plenty of agreement in this universe.

Well… well that stalled off the… the mental, intellectual revolution probably for many centuries until some wiseacre finally says, „Hey, you know, I wonder what those elephants are standing on?“ And he came back and he says to the priests, „What are the elephants standing on?“

There’s always… already patterns of agreement. There’s all these things; you got all this material here in other words, and, oh, it’s terrific quantities of material. And with those terrific quantities of material a person’s expected to work. You start agreeing again and this universe evidently doesn’t want anything to do with the energy you’d add to it. It sort of secretly takes that.

And the priests had it all ready and they were already figured this out, see, and they’re just waiting for this, and they… they had it all answered. And they said, „The elephants are standing on a mud turtle and it’s… and the mud turtle is sitting on mud and it’s mud from there on down.

But it doesn’t want anything to do with it. It says: MEST universe, much more powerful than any universe you ever had or constructed or could construct of anything like that. MEST universe says… says and so on. The MEST universe has a horrible motto I’ll talk about later.

That… that finished off that one.

But here… here is all of this energy and you don’t create any energy so the second you start into going into agreement with the MEST universe, energy comes down down down down down as far as ones are concerned.

The early Greek tried to get around it: he kept talking about the prime movers unmoved, prime mover unmoved. He had a very MESTy concept of all this. He said, „If you have a universe, then you’ve got somebody who made the universe.“ Well, who made the fellow that made the universe? Never occurred to him that it might be that the fellow who made the universe didn’t have to be made. That… that would be just as reasonable as the other, you see.

An individual for whom everything is done has no energy left to do anything. Just look around in the society and find individuals for whom everything is done and you’ll find the most languid individuals. You’ll find people all around you who say, „If I just had a little more, if I just had a… had a couple of maids, and six or eight this and if I just had twelve more girls working in the office, and if I just had all of these things and so on, I’d have all of this leisure time. And I’d get all kinds of things done.“

But, when people are asking for the reason and prior cause, they’re asking for something earlier on the time track. And of course, a time track would always be a finite length so someplace this time track started. And if you’re going to explain to them the reason why, you’ve always got to have a prior cause. And it doesn’t matter how far back you go, you’re going to go around this way on prior causes and the only inevitable place you will wind up is just where you started. And you can take any rationale, you can take any subject and you can explain it circularly. You can always explain it circularly and even though you are apparently taking off a big chunk of knowledge and you are moving it forward for people to look at very nicely, you’ve got a circle. Only you just haven’t carried it all the way out here and all the way out here and brought it all the way around here and locked it up here again.

Now what do you know, the more help he gets, the more things are done for him, the less he does, and he gets finally down, and you… you just look at this boy, he just sinks down in a chair. That’s down.

So we could do for our purposes here, for this universe you have a circle and this circle is a very interesting circle of reason. And this applies only to this universe. And that starts out here.

Now, there is an out. He can enter over into the field of sports. But you can imagine the field of sports. Imagine playing polo - the horse does all the running, you put somebody in the saddle, to have him hold the stick for you. Uh… and then… then you have somebody else there to fire the stick off so that it hits the ball properly.

And let’s say that we’re going this way, and down this way you have inductive thinking. That goes that away. Now let’s look around the other way and let’s say we have deductive thinking.

And uh… than you decide, well it’s a good place to sit over here on the side of the grandstand. And I’ll be part of this game and uh… watch that boy. Me and my boy running up and down there and playing polo, and all the other players also sitting there in the grandstand by this time.

Now you know what those are. One is… one is you get a file of data together. Deductive thinking is you get this big mass of data and you go out and you hire a lot of pack rats and… and you hire all kinds of people and you just have them haul in data. And they haul in data the way we were having heads hauled in there today. And they keep hauling in data and hauling in data and they keep mounding it up in big piles and there’s somebody sitting there coordinating the data, coordinating the data, coordinating the data. And trying to learn something from coordinating all this data. That is deductive thought.

And then several servants come in and they give you some empty big… big chairs, deep chairs, and you sit there and… and uh… the polo game goes on. Well, no real interest in the polo game by this time. And the fellow puts out his hand like this and a drink is put into it again. He opens his mouth slightly and somebody bends the straw over so that he can get the drink.

And they finally get enough of these data related, and so they’ve got the data related and they come to an inevitable conclusion through having observed all collected data. That’s one way of doing it.

Gee, he… he’d be in bad shape very soon, wouldn’t he? And so they do. So any time your thetan starts up as an energy unit and starts to convince himself that he’s only an energy unit and he can only operate in that bracket, he’s comparing his energy to lightning bolts and all kinds of things, trolley lines out here and electric lights. And he’s not up to a point yet where he can do these things.

Here’s the other way of doing it. These are both extremes. This is the philosophic method. The philosophic method goes along this line. It says, „You know, I guess… so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so.“ And the fellow looks around to see if there’s any data to support this and finds there one or two, says, „Well, that’s all right.“ Otherwise no.

What’s he do? He builds up a little bit and he goes on a big slump, he builds up a little bit and goes on a big slump. And he builds up a little bit and after a little while he won’t even want to move out of his body. He says, „What’s the use?“

Inductive reasoning comes a cropper very easily because most of your ancients… You take somebody like oh… uh… lu… let’s take… let’s take modern ones, let’s take… uh… the repeal of Ohm’s Law. Uh yeah… Hegel was a very interesting boy. Uh… you… you could… The… the Piazzi went out and discovered by the way an eighth planet and the same day practically that he announced the discovery of the eighth planet… ah… Hegel had written a book proving that because seven was a perfect number, there could only be seven planets. And so Piazzi’s discovery of the eighth planet was like to get lost in the intellectual world because they accepted Hegel. Seven was a perfect number, they thought in that bracket. I mean that’s uh-na-na-na, this is all, uh-hum. And… and you come along and you say to ‘em, „Hey, why don’t go out and take a look at least at this universe.“ And… and they wouldn’t have understood that. Science came into being on this other route: deductive.

Because he’s putting himself in direct contest with the MEST universe. So is the thetan an energy unit? No, he’s not, but a thetan sort of conceives himself to be an energy unit and when he first starts moving out, you’ll find out that he’s quite convinced that he’s an energy unit. And then he will spend a lot of his time trying to become a better energy unit.

They got so fed up with the repeal of Ohm’s Law and the lack of cooperation here. Practically every one of Newton’s laws has been thrown into the ash can by so-called philosophers in the past. I mean, and people were more likely to accept it. They’d sit around and they’d say, „Well, now, let’s see… let’s see, on the banks of the Nile there are crocodiles. Ah yes, there are crocodiles on the banks of the Nile. That’s a lovely word, crocodile. Here are all these jars on the banks of the Nile. The crocodile is therefore. is inanimate.“

Well, that’s… the way he makes energy is by postulates and so you have to rehabilitate his ability to create a universe and you automatically increase his energy unit capacity by not trying to create it at all. And you can create it up to a point over here in this untrammeled universe of his own until you get him to a point where he all of a sudden turns around and says, „Well, the MEST universe, you know, I never did like Mars.“ Buzzzrrrumgh! That’s theoretical, theoretical.

You say that’s completely nonsequitur. Well, so it is. But they’d take crocodile and they’d say a crocodile must have been named because of crocks, so that proves that a crocodile is inanimate and therefore crocodiles don’t move.

But uh… auditors very often tend to measure this production of energy as the ability of a preclear. Sure enough, it measures him quite a bit on the tone scale. But they judge whether or not they’ve got a good preclear solely and continually by how much energy he can produce. And they try to get him to produce more energy and he’s producing it in competition.

An explorer comes back in and he says, „I was down on the banks of the Nile and there’s… there’s this little child down on the banks of the Nile and this great big crocodile jumped off the hank and was about to…“

You got the Edison Company down here and they’re mighty hard people to get around. They… they… they wouldn’t buy your ohms and kilowatts, not for a nickel. They can make too many of ‘em. So, it’s sort of wasted effort.

„Wait minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. We know you’re lying because crocodiles can’t move.“

All right, uh… putting this into a… any kind of a reality, then, we find out that in processing the thetan conceives himself to be an energy unit and we find out that on this definition of along the line, he’s not an energy unit.

„Well, why can’t they move?“

He’s a thetan, he has the goal of theta and he… one of the things theta can do, well, what do you know? If a man can create space, he’ll never do very much in the way of creating energy. Had… had an auditor over in England that… that auditors measure this so… so… so well, that’s why I’m stressing it. They… they keep coming back in there to get agreement from this MEST universe. They come around… they… they do this with the preclear and then they come back and they say to the MEST universe, „Will you agree? Do you agree? Am I agreed with? Where’s my license to survive?“

„Well, it’s out there in that latest philosophic test and so forth that crocodiles sit on the banks of the Nile motionlessly.“ And he proves it conclusively.

„Okay. Oh, you didn’t give me one. Or this one that you did give me was written in disappearing ink.“ Uh… had an auditor, he said, „I worked for six hours, worked hard with this preclear and got her out of her body, feeling much better, cured these chronic somatics - she’s never been able to walk - but, uh… walking all right and so forth, but you know, at the end of six hours all she could do was lift a cigarette paper.“

So inductive logic came into disgrace and science made a terrific leap forward by insisting that it be real and when they said real they meant does it compare with this universe. And they went out and they compared all their data to this universe and then they come a cropper too. They come to an extreme. They gather data, and gather data, and gather data and they take 50 million monkeys and set them down to 50 million typewriters or something of the sort and they… they think if you wrote for 50 million years you would eventually come out with all this stuff.

You stop and think about it for a moment. This guy’s frame of reference is the frame of reference of Scientology, which is what he’s lived and slept with for quite a while. This didn’t seem very good to him. Just think what would happen if you were giving some kind of a demonstration some place or another and your preclear jumps out of the body and there’s a whole stack of cigarette papers over there and you say, „All right, will you move something around in the room?,“ the fellow goes to the cigarette papers, „Move those,“ and the person picks up the cigarette paper and brings it out here and lets it flutter to the floor - with no hand touching it.

No, I’m afraid that thinking takes about half of each. You… you… you get an inductive idea. You… you say, „You know that sort of looks like it’s so“ and you push that around a little bit and you find some data there. And you say, „You know, that oughta predict a whole lot of data.“ All right, it looks like data in this field, therefore let’s sort through all the data in this field and see if it comes back to that same conclusion. Does it? Okay, it does. That’s all we want to know.

Well, though one of the best reasons why I… this would happen probably was because he had gone out and then he dived back in. The fact that he was doing this six hours - at the end of six hours of processing - demonstrated that he was again going around like a panhandler or a begging bowl or something of the sort and saying to the MEST universe, „Please give us a license to survive. We will agree with you some more.“

That’s plenty. So here you could say that we’re working from all data and over here one datum. You have a map of logic. You’re… you’re working over here from all data in this universe and you got yourself a whole… ah… circle, so it goes from one datum and it keeps on winding right straight back to this datum here.

„And if we agree with you enough, we won’t be at all, but please agree some more and we’ll agree with you and everything is going to be fine.“

Now, the useability of one of these circles is as good as it encompasses. And you’ve actually got to step out of this time circle, because that’s… that’s a time circle, in order to get anyplace and look at anything very broadly.

Why, he’s just doing the same thing when he says to this preclear, „Can you pick up that piece of paper?“ You’re asking this individual to immediately go into contest with MEST universe. MEST universe does it with hands, and cranes, and that sort of thing, and you’re asking a thetan who hasn’t yet rehabilitated his own universe to pick up some piece of paper - a piece of paper. That’s an illusion called a piece of paper. You’re asking him to pick it up, disobey the laws of gravity with it and bring it out here and drop it where everybody can see it. Well, if you keep that up very much with a preclear, you get him out of his body - this is the test of this pudding, how well it works - you get him out of his body, you send him around, he knocks off an ashtray, he does something like that.

You’ve., you’ve got to get off of this WHY. Why means, what is the cause of it. And you say, „What is the cause of it? Well, the cause of it is“ oh, you mean what made it? Hell, all right.“

By the way, it scares him to death. Half the time they get out of their body and they say, „I… I couldn’t do anything like this.“ And they say, „I… I couldn’t do anything like this,“ and they come over here and they see this box of matches here or something of this sort. They’re out of their body. And they say, „I… I wonder if I could… WAAUUGGHH!“ That’s… that’s just… just that kind of reaction. And the guy will dive right back inside there.

And this guy says, „Well, what made get made it? And then what made what… what made what made it?“ And you just back up and you get all the whole world, everything in the universe, all this pile of data, everything that’s in the universe, is right next door to one datum.

He has agreed so thoroughly; he disagreed too fast, too quick, and he’s done for a while. You look at him afterwards, he’ll just be hangdog. Gets real upset, and so, when we look over then our… the upper Q’s, we… we find out that we so far haven’t anything to do really with the creation of energy as a level of process that we would care much about. That would be a rather low level of process.

Now, if you get that one datum, and if that one datum would evaluate everything over here, you have an expanded circle about as big as one universe can take. And now supposing we’re embracing a lot of universes. They’re disrelated in times, they’re disrelated in location, characteristics, and everything else. How in the name of common sense would you relate them? Well, here you would get something that would look… look like this. There… there’s… there’s circles, there’s… there’s circles. And each one of those is one of these circles. See, that one and that one.

First is location in time and space of energy and matter. And it says creation of space and… and energy and matter located in time and space. Well, that doesn’t stress for one moment, that doesn’t even vaguely stress this one point of creation of energy. You first have to be able to locate things in space, locate things in time and that means move them. Not identify or spot them - move them, shift them around and then actually create space.

Well, you want to get these things adjusted around until they all coincide here. What’s there? Now, you have three or four, three or four disrelated piles of data with which to evaluate a datum. Now you say this one datum explains all of these, and here from this one datum you’ve got to be able to make all this data, and for each one of these circles of logic there’s got to be an all-data circle.

Create space in which to make energy. When you’ve done all those things, oh, you can move up everything around you that you want to move around. But a preclear has to be in awfully good shape before you start putting him in contest with this.

And then you can evaluate this one by this one by this one by this one. Your minimum number of this is two. You have two. That’d be the minimum number. But it’s just like you can’t take a navigational position on which you can count even vaguely unless you have three lines. It takes a third line to check two lines, so let’s put this in terms of navigation and we’ll take three and we’ll have… there’s its wheel and its wheel and its wheel. What’s there? Is that still there? Yeah, that’s Q-l.

Your first level of processing up the things is locating things. Your next level is changing postulates. It comes immediately from that as the highest levels that you can hit.

Q-1 evaluates the data of any universe. You don’t have to have specialized data. And you see we fortunately have a large number of universes available. Have a very large number of universes available.

Now, we get another Q which I’ve already talked about quite a bit and that is simply the action cycle… is the… is one of the manifestations of ability of a thetan. Has to be up at that level and the only reason’s really there, is because it’s one of the abilities of, one of them.

Available to you right now, you have the MEST universe and your own universe. You also have somebody else’s universe available. Some… somebody’s universe as far as logic is concerned and so forth. So you’ve got three universes. You’ve got the data I’m giving you. That’s a universe. You’ve got the MEST universe. Not in that order of magnitude; what I’m giving you is far more important. Uh… and you’ve got your own universe. And of these three the most important one is your own, because you can be certain of it. Mostly because you can he a hundred percent in control of it. And if you just start working up to a hundred percent in control of this universe, these two other universes fall into line as a category.

Action cycles, that is the cycle which goes from 40.0 on the tone scale to 0.0 on the tone scale and a thetan can run this gamut. And he can run it with an individual, run it with a universe, run it with an illusion, run it with anything, and so on. It has to do with space, energy, time - all these things are interrelated.

And what’s standing there at the center of the three universes is that datum, the capability of theta.

Now, an action cycle, technically, is the creation, growth, conservation, decay and death or destruction of energy and matter in a space, that is an action cycle. And it is the action cycle which produces the illusion of time. You’ll see that much more clearly as we go into this. That’s your last one.

That’s a theoretical capability, it’s not something on which you can chew. It’s not something on which you can feed the dog or advertise, or anything of this sort. It isn’t something which traditionally they say, „Sense, measure, or experience.’ That’s very great - sense, measure, or experience. It’s a good thing that experience is sitting there, because you can experience it. You can experience it with your own universe and as you go on up the line… as you go well on up the line, you start to experience it very broadly. You would experience it more and more broadly and all of a sudden you’d say, „Well, I don’t know what capability I eight be able to obtain but I certainly have this low level capability of being able, this kindergarten stuff, of… of being able to manufacture in any space… uh… energy, matter, objects… uh… and… uh… manufacture space in which to have energy and objects. I… I can do that, that’s very simple, nothing much to that. I wonder what’s above that level?“

And that by the way is… is just that this illusion of time is created by the thetan. And it’s created by the thetan; it is not suddenly shot off to some other sphere. Now that which a person can create cannot have any great effect upon him. Anything that a person can create, change or destroy doesn’t have any large value to him.

Well, as long as a fellow is sitting using energy in a MEST object in the MEST universe, where everything is very nicely interdependent, in such a degree that he has to talk in terms and can only talk in terms of action and symbols for objects, now to try and go up and explain a nothingness… You see? Because it isn’t a nothingness.

You wouldn’t think a dollar bill was worth anything if you could make all of them that you possibly could want. You wouldn’t think they were worth a thing; as a matter of fact they wouldn’t be worth a thing. Uh… but uh… you wouldn’t put… place any value on them. But those things which an individual cannot create, or believes he cannot create rather - he believes he can’t create something. Oh-oh, that means that he can procure it only through an exchange and a communication of some sort or a line of some sort, and we have then only those things which a person cannot create, change or destroy can be aberrative to the person, and that’s the final run of it. When you get into the upper level of a thetan, you find out that anything there is, he is capable of creating, changing and destroying. He doesn’t have a limit, and I don’t know of any limit at this time.

Theta is not a nothingness. It just happens to be an exterior thing to this universe so you couldn’t talk about it in this universe’s terms, that’s all. But as far as this universe’s terms are concerned, we can define it. And that is just a little bit of a triumph, to tell you the truth.

I’ve been around, snooping around, trying to find some limits someplace or another, and although absolutes are unobtainable, obviously… obviously we haven’t stated an absolute. We… we just obviously haven’t stated an absolute when we say that that is what a thetan can do and that he can create anything.

How did this thing get located? Well, once upon a time, sitting down in Phoenix and I was monkeying around and I… I… I knew there was something there, I kept bumping into it.

We can say he can create anything we know anything about. He can create anything you find in one of these universes. That’s a rather limited scope. That’s very easy. This MEST universe, kind of an idiotic affair, has three dimensions, uh… depends on a change in space and you get a vibration called time and it’s all very interesting.

You know the two-dimensional… story of the two-dimensional worms? There’s a two-dimensional plane and these two-dimensional worms go running around and living on this two-dimensional plane and having a perfectly wonderful time and they’re running around, and one day one of them runs into a pole. Crunch. And he says, „No pole there.“

But anything we know about can be created by a thetan and as a consequence there is no shortage or scarcity to a thetan, even vaguely.

So I went off and sat down for a while and I said, „You know, there isn’t any pole there, couldn’t be any pole there, no.“ But of course, I’m a professional pole-looker-forer. I have a… uh… a mania. When I get bruised or something or other on some pole it’s a personal affront - it isn’t just a matter of calm orderly discovery - that a pole could be there without getting my permission for it. That’s the way most anybody feels, by the way. That a pole could be there without getting your permission - that’s an insult. There’s only one thing you can do about it and that’s go back over and look at the thing. And I passed right over the ground again. And there was no pole there.

So I hope with these upper brackets here, these upper brackets above the level of logics, we have described the thing or the beingness or whatever you want to call it that we’re processing… Well, that’s what we’re processing and that’s what we’re trying to process toward and that actually is the common denominator of all of our processes at this time.

Well, I turned around and I came back and I ran square on into it and took a good look at it.

And as long as we work within those realms toward those goals, we can achieve very remarkable results. And as soon as we start to depart from these goals everything starts to go off wrong in the process. So we have a higher level of evaluation for a process.

Now, here was the funny thing, here was the funny thing. I started to examine, I started to examine facsimiles and I found out that electronic flows were generated by facsimiles. Now, I was waving a few meters and cathode-ray-tubes around in the air and I was doing a very Einsteinesque, who has… only… the observer has the right to look at a meter and no other right. He can observe, he preferably would stand with a blank everything in front of him except a hole, and that hole would be on the needle of the meter. And the only thing he’s got a… any… any right… right to say or see or do anything else is just that meter, and the number of it that… that he reads. Now that’s the way you have to do this stuff. You have to limit it down with terrific severity.

The test of this is an awful lot of processing. There are theta clears around now till… I mean, this is getting - you… you meet an auditor and he says, „I… I… I… „What kind of a week did you have?“ He says, „I’m doing all right, I mean I haven’t got any practice now, but I mean I’m doing all right.“ And uh… you say, „What do you mean, you haven’t had any practice?“

Well, I was a very good boy, I sat there, I read ohmmeters and cathode-ray tubes, and E-meters and so on and it was just becoming more and more obvious. So I… one day I said, „I wonder if… h… hey, that’s a funny thing, I wonder if… ah… you know you should be able to get a DC flow. Ah. All right, let’s get a DC flow. Hmm. What do you know.“ And I said, „Well you can take an old facsimile here, an old facsimile there and you can put these two things in proximity and if you put them in close enough proximities you can get a trickle of electricity going across the terminals, that’s nice, real nice and it measures on a cathode-ray tube, now isn’t that fascinating? Hah!“

„Well, I used to have about 20 preclears I used to see at one time or another. Uh… I worked all week long - and I don’t have them any more.“

Well, that’s fine. That’s what facsimiles are for and that’s one of the reasons why we have experience. All right, now let’s go on a little bit further than that. Now, can you take this current and start reversing it? Zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, yup, yup. And all of a sudden it starts to speed up and what do you know. It reads on an AC meter. And you say, „That’s wonderful! Look, man is basically an AC generator.“

But uh… you say, „Hhmm, well, you made… made a lot of theta clears?“

Well, now let’s just go just a little bit further than this and let’s look this over real good and let’s see if we can’t get a condenser action. Now if we can get a condenser action, we’re smack, Mac. And so I set it up to get a condenser action by holding and getting the preclear to hold one facsimile there and to hold another facsimile there and not let them discharge in any way or shape or form. Just hold them there, I don’t care if it requires two hours, I don’t care if it requires six hours, if it requires twelve hours, let’s hold those two in place and not let them vary even vaguely.

„Oh, yes, yes, well I made a lot of theta clears. Most of these were theta clears before but I’ve got these up… pretty well cleared as thetans, and squared around and so forth.“

And of course, you do it for a very short time and those facsimiles go BOOM! It’s… it’s just inevitable. You could set those things up just as nice as you please.

And you say, „What are they doing?“

What you’re getting there, you’re getting… you’ve got one facsimile here and one facsimile here and you insist on them not going together and of course there’s a flow already established which is trying to drive then together, so you just insist on that staying there. And sometimes you have to hold it there for a couple of hours, but if you… you hold it there long enough, you will eventually get it going FLASH! right in your face. It’s a very fascinating experiment. Leave it to somebody else to make future experiments. It gives you a cold. It blows your nose up and explodes a ridge or two into your face.

„Well, I don’t know. Uh… a couple of them I haven’t seen for two or three days and the last time I saw anything about them at all they were… they were talking about taking some kind of a scout out to someplace or another and looking over something. And uh… another one, one of them got himself fired, and two others got… got themselves promoted and… uh… things are changing; things are changing.“

Well, I already knew from running incidents on the track that facsimiles could explode. This was fairly simple. Now another datum wandered in. You could put a mock-up up there, you could put a… imagine an aesthetic scene of some sort and it would get dark. And you could put another aesthetic scene up and it’d get dark and you could put another aesthetic scene up and it would get…

It’s… it’s quite, quite remarkable. And it’s… it’s after two and a half years of watching, boy, results in the hands of auditors. What is a technique? What’s a good technique? Well, a good technique is a technique an auditor can use that will produce fast and rapid results. Furthermore, it’s got to produce rapid results faster than the environment can undo the results.

You say, „Hey, wait a minute. You mean the guy’s discharging himself onto these aesthetic scenes.“ It’s just as nice as you please. Isn’t that fascinating?

You’re sort of racing along with the environment there. And it’s got to be able to be doable, after a course of training, right at a rather uniform level by auditors. Now, those are all important parts of a good technique. Uh… does it work uniformly on preclears and so forth, sure, all right, that’d… that’d be a good technique. But can it be taught to an auditor? He said no. Gee. That technique isn’t worth a darn.

Discharge, discharge, and… and he keeps wiping the scenes off and he puts another scene there and he wipes that off and he puts… Well, what do you know. Now wait a minute. If you took that scene? All right. Let’s… is that scene really an electronic scene, let’s find out if it really is.

Well, we have a technique here by… because of the existence of these things above the level of the logics. We have a technique here now which leads us out into a good uniform workability, on the part of auditors producing good effects there on the preclear and boosting him up the line, returning his self-determinism to him rather rapidly.

Uh… we’re looking at a meter, you understand.

You’ll get different looking people and you’ll get happier people processing them this way and the name of this technique we’re stressing, I’m stressing right now, is Scientology 8-8008. And the reason this is 8-8008 is a very simple reason. Show it to you here. It’s the attainment of an infinity by the reduction of the infinity of the MEST universe - that’s Phi, a Greek letter - to a zero of Phi, MEST universe, by the increase of’ the zero of one’s own universe, to an infinity of one’s own universe. And this infinity stands for just what it says. It’s a theoretical attempt to reach any infinity. And that would be an infinity in any direction as far as universes are concerned.

When we get an explosion, it isn’t what the preclear feels with his intuition. It… it knocks the E-Meter pins off, or it burns the coils out or it does something like that. I mean there’s noth… nothing mild or hard to read… uh… if there’s any meter left after one of these explosions

I don’t know what else exists beyond universes, but uh… there might… must be a lot of things, because I can see the infinity of universes. And if you can see an infinity, it’s obviously not an infinity, I mean, obviously. So this is just a theoretical infinity and that would be uh… any universe.

One of the boys out in California, by the way knocked the hole, not only knocked a hole through the electrode of an E-Meter - that is, knocked the hole right straight through the tin of the can – but also through the hand of the preclear.

Uh… and mind you this is just an attempt. Now, therefore, this is very interesting. It… it… it runs uh… we just turn that up this way. Now we have Scientology 8-8008. And it’s named that way with a purpose and a reason. Student: Could you just go through that formula again? LRH: You betcha.

Well, anyway, we took this thing, aesthetic facsimile, and took another mean ornery no-good facsimile, see, and took the two things and said, „Allright, now one, two, three BOOM!“

Here is an infinity, of any universe. This process attempts to reach the theoretical infinity of any universe, the creation, change or destruction of any universe, that would be its infinity, by the reduction of the infinity of the MEST universe, this universe we’re sitting in, and that could only be in terms of importance to the individual or his dependency on it. It appears to be an infinity of dependence to him now.

Sure enough, you move the aesthetic facsimile onto any old kind of a facsimile you’ve got from yesterday or something of the sort and you put the two things together with relative suddenness and you get an explosion and it registers on a meter. Good, good. Man creates energy, obvious.

Well, you reduce that infinity of dependence to zero for the individual. Of course, that’s very nice. I wouldn’t want the FBI to get ahold of this other thing. The actual thing is just between ourselves. What it means is the… the destruction of the MEST universe - the zero. And the increase of one’s own universe which is approximately at zero now, actually.

Now let’s try and take and move a couple of other old facsimiles together, we can get energy there. But… „Now wait a minute,“ I said. „He, look… look he created that aesthetic facsimile. That wasn’t MEST universe experience. The old MEST universe had left the latchstring out on that one.“ And there it was right there.

He… he goes around dressing up the buildings and saying, „Aren’t the pigeons pretty?“ and all that sort of thing. But there he knows they’re not his pigeons. Uh… and all he’s got is this shadow which he puts on everything or a little bright light he puts on something.

There’s a… there’s a… there’s a factor that quite… wouldn’t quite figure. You’ve done a mock-up and here’s this mock-up and obviously it’s just your imagination. Now that obviously doesn’t have any energy in it, and if it did have any energy in it… it must have gotten it someplace else. But here’s an instantaneous mock-up appearing. You… you look up there, there’s no ridges, there’s nothing. You just make this mock-up. And you take that mock-up and you slap it into another facsimile and it goes pam! and zing! goes the meter on the machine.

There’s nothing but darkness there. He comes along and puts this little ‘light on it; he says, „That’s pretty.“ Yeah, that’s good and pretty - of course, he’d put it there so it’d be pretty. But he considers his own universe to consist of exactly zero, really; he doesn’t have a big universe. He… he… and so on… it’s a zero, compared to what it could be - you can believe that - to an infinity as far as he’s concerned. That is an unlimited scope for his own universe.

Hey, hey, hey. Is it possible that man is actually creating electricity? If so, then what would take place?

An unlimited scope for his own universe, we consider that at… at an… you… you get a person’s universe is not really at zero, that’s an absolute. Well, so that really isn’t infinity and that isn’t infinity and that isn’t infinity and neither is that infinity. Those are all absolute terms; absolutes are unobtainable, but they can come awful close.

So I started figuring… already knew a lot of wavelengths come down this way and that way and it would be from zero to an aesthetic band. Aesthetic band’s evidently along in that band someplace and then that comes right on down the line and gets into heavier and heavier material and links and forms and energy contents and masses and efforts, and what do you know. He can evidently create this. And what’s this stuff we’re looking at? This stuff we’re looking at is evidently some manifestation of thought.

Now, we get out of that the number of this technique and the number of this technique is very, very, very important to know, because anytime you forget the number of this technique, you’re going to have a preclear who doesn’t get well. And that’s why this technique is named that, and this is why I want you to know the name of the technique, and remember the name of the technique and so on, because it adds up to a formula of processing which won’t fail you. That’s an absolute too; it probably will.

It… thought makes something else, makes something else, makes something else and that finally winds up something else. Now you know if you’ve ever listened to Technique 88 tapes, that we’re right down the groove on the Technique 88 tapes saying that this universe is evidently a composition of thought energy of some wave or another which has become timeless. There’s quite a bit of talk in there about the timelessness of something.

You take some… some fives occasionally, a five will do the incredible stunt… Oh, he’ll just do the most incredible things - anything to get that preclear back in his head. Ha! and get him agreeing with the MEST universe. Anything to get him in, hold him in, nail him down, put clamps, screws, so on. Don’t let him out and.-. and then make him agree over there with the MEST universe.

If you’ve ever tried to run an apathy somatic out of anybody, you’ll understand what I mean about timeless. MEST universe and apathy are very closely related. You start to get an apathy incident, the preclear feeling apathetic, you start running this out and boy that’s just slow freight. You just grind that thing out, and you grind it out and you might as well be rubbing his head against a rock. Then all of a sudden it one day occurred to me that, sure, timelessness. The timelessness of MEST was a sort of an apathy. All right, we were already on that track, so we could say there’s a gradient scale of thought that leads down to this.

„Oh well, now I… I know we’re not supposed to do this, but… but the best thing to do on something like that - I… I know we’re not supposed to do this, but… the best… the best thing we could possibly do at the moment - just… just a little test just to see whether or not you’re perceiving properly. Uh… how… how about… how about knocking that… that Coke bottle off?“

And it wasn’t this: thought is no good because it is just the same as electricity. I mean that would be a materialist standpoint.

„Oh, you can’t do that! Oh. Well, do you see anything in the room? Oh? Well, now look, you’re due for a shock when you open your eyes - I better warn you that this room isn’t arranged that way. You’re in for a little shock. But you said that the vase and so forth was sitting over by the window and so on, and… oh well, open your eyes, you’ll see.“

Uh… the… uh… a lot of people like Pasteur, or some field of phrenology… I don’t know what they call themselves, phrenologists? Uh… something around that order. Uh… philatelists. No, no it’s not… that’s’ not… that’s not right. I’ll… I’ll think of it in a minute.

The guy gets out of that, he looks and he’s half crazy, because sure enough, he saw the ceiling this way, and he saw the table that way, and he saw something else that way, and that isn’t the way they are. He opens his eyes with the MEST universe.

Anyway, we got… we got all this whole field was saying, „Thought is something else and the energy of thought isn’t existing and it is something else than electric lights and that’s a kind of electricity…“ You’ll find out everywhere you see that written up. They’ll say… be very careful to say, „Well, it’s something else.“

Where… where do we get the idea that isn’t the way they are, just because the MEST universe perceived through these eyes is a little bit different? The actual fact about it is, the poor guy is stuck thetawise all over the time track. You get anything that can… can create energy, you get anything that can create space, boy, it can shift space like mad.

It never occurred to anybody… never occurred to anybody that thought was good enough and high enough and powerful enough to create something like that. That this would be the result of a heck of a lot of… of energy piled up which was actually a generated energy which would eventually get into masses, and which therefore could act and react and so forth as masses.

And… and he’ll - first get him out, half the time he… he’ll take the ceiling of his own bedroom when he was a little girl and he’ll… and he will… will take the… take the table off the old kitchen when he was a grandfather, and he’ll take this and that and he’ll put them all together and then he’ll add four or five features that match up with the room he’s in and then he’ll say, „But no, I can’t have that desk there, because that desk reminds me of Poppa, so we’ll put a school desk there. That’s good, now we’ve got the .room. Now that’s the way things are.“ That’s really the way he’s seeing things inside of his head all the time.

Well, we got this energy mass and when you get an energy mass next an energy mass you get all sorts of… Wait a minute… wait a minute… wait a minute… wait a minute. There’s something about that. Let me think, there’s something about that. Oh, I know what the name of those people are - psychologists.

He sort of thinks things are sort of fouled up this way, and maybe he’d better just sorta rely upon the body. The body… the body can be counted in… counted upon to run into these things if they’re not in the right place. And therefore it will keep one oriented.

Well, anyhow, the… the… the… uh… it… it suddenly occurred - this is just the line of approach; I just mention it to you perhaps for clarification of what we’re doing - we have… astonishingly enough they left a hole in electricity.

Using a body is very like using a compass. It… it orients. It says, „This is present time,“ because it is present time for the body. Look at it, the body’s heart goes pop pop pop pop and we breathe sixteen times a sec… a minute, and we’re all set. And he keeps himself oriented. Well when he first comes out, anything that can create space can scramble it, anything that can create energy can scramble it, anything that can create objects can really foul him up.

So therefore if we knew this much more about electricity, we should be able to look over electricity and find out if there wasn’t something left out of electricity. And so I just started thinking over very hard and so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so and all of a sudden I was looking at the alternating current formula. And the alternating current formula won’t furnish alternating current if you evaluate it very sharply, because… because the… there’s one ingredient they don’t talk about. And… uh… there’s this ingredient. And you’ve got a terminal there, you see, you’ve got a terminal - they can be in the term of two magnets or coils or whatever you want - two terminal: positive and negative. And they… they sit there… they sit there and something revolves between the two things and then… then… that it goes this way and that way and you get alternating c… It won’t do it!

And when he first starts looking at the universe, boy, it’s nothing like the universe. It’s pieces of the universe all over the place put together, because he isn’t a point source of dimension, and he can’t get the points of dimension squared away. So you see what happens? Now we have to follow this formula.

If you just had that formula and you didn’t have an alternating current generator, and if you’d never seen one, something of this sort, it’s very doubtful if you could build one. Unless by intuition or something of this sort, it suddenly struck you that there was another part to the machine they never mention. And that’s the base.

If we follow that formula, we get good preclears and all comes out well, and if we turn around and face the material universe a11 the time and insist on it, our preclears don’t get well. What do you know! It’s just as simple as that. So that’s the formula, and that’s what we’re studying here.

I know, that’s too simple. That’s much too simple, but it happens to be horribly true. You’ve got to have a base.

It’s quite late and I want to wish you all a very good night.

Now somebody says, „Is that the logarithmic base you’re talking about? And… or is that… that… that the base… of conclusions? Or… uh… something of that sort?“ There’s even something more than that which I won’t bother to go into about, OAC.

But there has to be a plus-minus for the minus side and there has to be a minus-plus for the plus side in order to get an interchange between these two. But more important than that… that - the dickens with that - is the base. And we’re talking just about the base of a generator, or the base of a motor. We’re just talking about the platform on which it stands which is made out of iron or wood or steel or something of the sort and which supports and keeps apart the terminals. That’s all we’re talking about. Just that horrible little simple thing. That base is sitting there keeping those terminals apart.

What’s keeping the terminals apart? That base of course. Oh no, it’s not! That base has to be… that base is bolted down to the table. And we have this base and we have a positive terminal and a negative terminal and there’s a wheel goes round and round and round. And the wheel, the generator spinner… when nothing could happen there at all if those things weren’t held rigidly apart, because it depends on their being held apart that they be permitted to have tension put on them.

If you just took two terminals and just set them up according to the formula and so on, every time you tried to turn anything over or furnish any effort in the thing, why the two terminals would simply go bang! And there’d be no current. And you’d it’d… you’d separate them very carefully and you’d turn the thing over again and they’d just go together. Their magnetism in other words would keep pulling them together. And you wouldn’t get a current through that line at all. They’ve got to be held rigidly apart.

Well, to need something to hold them rigidly apart, you’d have to have a base. And… and the base is bolted down to the top of a table. And the table is on the concrete floor of a… well… hey, wait a minute! Where are we going here? The concrete floor of a building and the building is on Earth and Earth is by centrifugal force and gravity riveted to the sun out here and the sun is in an equilibrium according to some other star… wait a minute… and those other stars are in equilibrium with accordance to a galaxy which is held in equilibrium, what do you know, by another galaxy which is by an island acr. Where are we going? Well, brother, we’s on the way to God.

And you extrapolate all this back again and you’ll find out, what do you know, that it’s absolutely essential to locate something in space and time in order to produce an electrical flow. And the highest order of action then that you could figure out, for an electrical flow would be something that located in a space some somethings which could discharge from one to the other and then, and only then, would you have an electrical flow.

Okay, let’s take a break.