Let's now take up a much longer process called Route 1, Step 9; R1-9, Grand Tour. The R1-9 Grand Tour is one of the more interesting things to do with an exteriorized individual. It's a very simple process.

Okay. Here we have now, Route 1, Step 11. R1-11: "Have preclear be problems and solutions in havingness." And this would, of course, be sequitur in having disabused him of his most favorite idea that two things cannot occupy the same space. Having disabused him of this obvious, known, practical and convincing idea, we would be able to go on to R1-11. Or, having failed utterly to disabuse him of it — you know, having failed utterly in R1-10 — we would go on to R1-11.

What you do is run Change of Space with enough interesting locales in it to show him that he can chase around a great deal of universe and look at a great many things.

Now, you see, you could fail in R1-10 — you could fail — by not running it long enough, by having a preclear who is having a lot of difficulty while exteriorized, by having had this preclear be sloppily audited before. You know, there'd be various reasons. And you've asked him this question: "What things wouldn't you mind occupying your same space?" And, boy, he's vague, and he's this way and that. And after you run it for a little while, he gets unhappy, and then you get it kind of flat. But you're not satisfied with it at all, you could actually just go on to R1-11 — if you weren't getting anyplace with it. Now, that's not to encourage you to change a process just because it isn't getting a result. But I'm just telling you that R1-11 is independent of R1-10.

You would not do a Grand Tour until you had found out if he considered it was safe to look at some things, you see. So it's in its logical, natural place here.

Why is it? Well, we're in a basic process again, you see? And do you know that all those basic processes — conceding the fact that the Remedy of Havingness and Spotting Spots are actually very much associated with each other — all those basic processes are workable processes. And here we've simply moved on to two-way communication. And we'll see, back here at the be-ginning, we asked him if he had any present time problems — you know, we got into communication by talking about problems? — well, here, tucked way down here at R1-11, we have a basic process. This is a basic process.

The Grand Tour can be short or long, but the minimum that you would do with a Grand Tour would be as follows: Teach him to be near certain planetary bodies and teach him to be in things and out of things — in other words, interiorized and exteriorized at will. In other words, put him across distances and move him in and out of things. Now, that's a Grand Tour using planetary bodies.

You could have started a process of this character the first time you ever talked to him. You could have started this process if you just had been introduced to him. So it's got to be in R1 someplace, so it's just there. It's not dependent on the one above it or below it. Problems and Solutions in Havingness.

The commands could be quite imaginative, but make sure that if your commands are imaginative that they are of a character which can be obeyed. Make sure of that.

Now, you'll also discover this over here in a later process, won't you? You will discover that this could have followed Opening Procedure by Duplication, hm? And you'll find it again appearing as R2-20, Use of Problems and Solutions — another way to run it. But it's still a very basic process, two-way communication. It's a problem that you're in communication with him at all.

In all auditing — I'll put this in just as an aside — in all auditing, remember that a communication lag mustn't be interrupted. You ask the person a question; you can ask the same question again without his answering it, just prompting him to answer it, but he's got to answer the question you ask.

So this fellow is exteriorized and we use this form when we have some-body out of his body. You know, he's exteriorized. He's an awareness of awareness unit. He's aware of his differentiation. He is somewhere up close to Clear. He's still associated with energy masses or something of the sort. Well, a thetan is unhappy unless he can have a few problems, and so on.

Now, that is a little game the auditor plays. And an auditor who forgets this will discover that he asked the question and then doesn't get the answer, asks another question, doesn't get the answer to that, asks another question — all in an effort to help the preclear, you see. You've just stacked up three unfinished cycles of action for this preclear, just like that.

And you could ask him, "What kind of a problem can you be in havingness?" — specialized use, see. "What kind of problem could you be in havingness?" It's rather significant, but he'll give you some problems he could be in havingness. "Let me see, I could be a pauper, and I could be this and that." And all of a sudden it will occur to him, sooner or later, as you're asking him that question over and over again, "I could be exteriorized." That's one of the reasons he's not stabilizing outside: he's being a problem in havingness. You know, there's the body, and there he is. He should be in the body; if he's in the body, he has it.

Similarly, in giving him a command of execution, you say, "All right, be near the Moon," as one of the first commands of the Grand Tour — "Be near the Moon." And the fellow says, "The Moon? I can't find the Moon."

Actually, he's having to hide, protect and own bodies in order to be happy in life. Well, that's a problem of havingness. Hiding bodies, hiding objects, hiding gold, burying treasure — that's a problem in havingness, see. Hiding, protecting, owning — these are problems in havingness. So you'd just go on asking him this: "What kind of a problem can you be in havingness?" Well, we've sometimes used this along this line: "What kind of a problem can you be in havingness?" and then "What kind of a problem can you be in not-havingness?" just to shake it up — you know, to give him the idea. He gets havingness as a positive and not-havingness as a negative affair. And this is just to make sure that you're covering all squares.

"Well, that's all right. Be near a steeple here in town." Druur! Oh, this is a bad auditor error, see.

So you'd ask him this question. He's exteriorized, and you say, "What kind of a problem can you be in havingness? What's another kind of a problem could you be in havingness?" And you'd run that until its comm lag was pretty flat. And then you would say, "What kind of a problem can you be in not-havingness?" and then "Give me some more problems you could be in not-havingness. Some more problems you could be in not-havingness." And then we could run it a little longer, till that communication lag was flat on that, and then we could ask him, while exteriorized, "What kind of a problem can others be to you in havingness?" And again, "What kind of a problem could others be to you in havingness?" And then we'd say "What kind of a problem can others be to you in not-havingness?" And right away he gets the feeling of the walls pulling the energy out of him as a thetan, you know — parasites, people standing around. "What kind of a problem can others be to you in not-havingness?" brings up immediately the vacuum-cleaner quality of this particular universe. It really pulls the energy out of people.

Communication lag — all that fellow was giving you was communication lag. You said "Be near the Moon," and he said, "Let's see. Well, I really can't find the Moon. I don't know where the Moon is. Where would the Moon be? I wouldn't dare be up there near the Moon, anyhow," and so forth.

And we would go on with that till its lag was flat. And then we could go into solutions and say, "What kind of a solution can you be to havingness? What kind of a solution can you be to not-havingness?" In other words, we'd just use those questions.

That's just what? Communication lag outflow, isn't it? Eventually he will be able to be near the Moon. He'll think it over and he'll regard the sit .. . He's being a little bit scared, see — that's the only reason he's doing this — which means, really, that you didn't run R1-8 long enough to make him feel safe to look at things, you see.

But every time we use a solution, we have reduced his problems, haven't we? You see, a lot of the places on the track where you'll find this individual stuck, it's when he's got attained, suddenly, a solution.

So, we say that you've run R1-8 long enough, then you can do a Grand Tour. Things are safe to look at, which means it's safe to locate — things are safe to locate.

What's a basic solution? What is the ultimate solution? The ultimate solution is demonstrated by this proposition: The solution to a problem is the problem. This is demonstrated in Perfect Duplication. The solution to a problem is the problem.

All right. The first thing you'd ask him, as you start the Grand Tour, you'd ask him to be near Earth. Well, now he's already on Earth or around here somewhere. "Be near Earth" merely asks him to be cognizant of the fact that he's somewhere in the vicinity of this planet. And then you say, the next line, "Be near the Moon." And that asks him to be somewhere in the vicinity of the Moon.

If you have a solution to a problem which is the problem — in other words, if you have duplicated the problem perfectly — the problem will cease to exist, and you will have no energy, no mass, no location in space and no time, won't you? In other words, the solution to the problem is the problem. But the second that you did that perfect duplicate, you would have as-ised the problem, which would leave you with nothing. So solutions are the most destructive things to havingness you ever saw in your life.

Well, of course, he'll try to move to the Moon many times, you know, and sort of get out a canoe, or a small space boat, or something of the sort, and row himself up to the Moon. People get a little bit strange about this. All he has to do is postulate he's near the Moon and he's there. And he can see anything he wants to see when he's there.

A fellow gets a real top-flight solution, he'll wind up with nothing, won't he? And that is what people kick about when you talk to them about exteriorization. It is a solution. It is the solution to existence. Naturally. It has no further wavelength, and a fellow actually can exteriorize into no position in time, you see, or location in space. I mean, if he can't place himself somewhere he's in bad shape. But he basically can simply place himself some-where, not being anyplace, you see, and he would be an orientation point.

You say, "Be near the Moon," and he says, "Okay, I'm near the Moon." And the next thing you would say to him would be "Be near the Sun," and then "Be near the Earth" again.

But what a silly thing this is. People fight away from having solutions. Do you know that if you got a Black Five, and you asked him to really solve something — you know, make a perfect duplicate of the problem? — he'd start to get sick at his stomach. You've asked him to look at nothing. Every time you ask one of these fellows who is figure-figure-figure-figure-figure-figure every time you ask one of these fellows to actually get a solution to the problem he's liable to get sick.

Now, you've taken him from the Earth to the Moon, to the Sun, back to Earth again, haven't you? Now, that's why we mean Grand Tour; we're changing space. We mean him to suddenly appear at a precision spot someplace — not to move to it, but to be at that spot and to look from, simply look, from a location; that's all we're asking him to do.

One of the finest things to make a person sick you ever saw in your life is come along, for instance, and point out the solution to a problem. The ultimate solution is nothingness. "Be three feet back of your head"; now he's in perfect condition.

So we say, "Be near Earth. Be near the Moon. Be near the Sun. Be near Earth." And we could keep on doing this, and would keep on doing this for some time. "Be near the Moon. Be near the Sun. Be near Earth." And you'll find out that he will start doing it much more rapidly than he was doing it before. And so you will have to telegraph it to him much more easily.

But after a person has gone downscale to a point of where he's very heavily embedded in energy, and so forth, now nothingness becomes very antipathetic for him to look at. So if you start asking him about solutions, you start asking him — just willy-nilly ask him about what solutions he's had in the past ("Now, give me some solutions you have arrived at"), you know he'll get sad?

You will have to say to him — as you commonly do, although it disobeys one of the primary factors of auditing; it makes him remember the rest of the thing — you say, "Moon. Sun. Earth." It's actually better auditing to say, "Be near the Moon. Be near the Sun. Be near Earth. Be near the Moon. Be near the Sun. Be near Earth." Well, you just chase him around on that circuit. It's really better auditing to tell him that each time, you see. Chase him around the circuit.

You give him some things — "Well, now what problems have you had in life?" — and for a little while, until he gets the bank drained down too much, why, he gets happier and happier and happier, you know. "Oh, my parents were so mean to me. And my father beat me. And my mother beat my father, and they both beat my little brother. And that made me beat my dog. And we all never had anything to eat but chicken and ice cream, and we had no place to sleep but a featherbed. Boy, I've had problems, problems, problems; I'm just about out of my mind." And you say, "Now, what solutions have you had in the past? What are some of your solutions?" The fellow says, "Solutions? Have I ever had a solution for anything? Let's see, solutions? Solutions? (Sigh!) Solutions, yeah. Yes, I had one: I left my family, was a solution. Let's see . . ." You trace back down the track and you'll find out that every solution is a reduction in havingness. You got that?

You'll find out that he goes more rapidly. In fact, he will start going so rapidly that vocal commands become arduous for him; he'll have to wait around for all these words to get out.

Well, you, you dog, are sitting there asking a preclear to solve his case. Bells ring? He's liable just to sit there and give you more and more and more and more and more problems, and more arduous, and more involved and further down the line, and so forth. Why? Because it'd make him awfully unhappy, he feels. If he is his body, a solution to the body is to have the body disappear utterly.

Well, what's the first phenomenon that is noticed by the auditor? — that he is moving slowly at first and then that he is moving more rapidly. Well now, there's another phenomenon which is the same phenomenon really. It is that the thetan is in the influence of gravity when you start to run R1-9; to a greater or lesser degree he is influenced by gravity as an awareness of awareness unit. See, he is under the influence of gravity. And as you chase him on this circuit, he finds he can be near these bodies without experiencing their gravity. See, that's a big gain, isn't it? He can be near these bodies without experiencing their gravity.

You get in religion the fact that a great saint is supposed to be able to dematerialize his body. I don't know what he's dragging a body for or where he's taking it to. But this is supposed to be the stuff. That's just a booby trap on the line, you see. Actually, he himself is no mass.

So, he will notice as he swings in and gets near the Moon, you see, that he starts to go down to the surface of the Moon. "Be near the Sun," he starts to swu-uuu, see. And he starts to get close to the surface of the Sun. "And you be near Earth," and he starts to swing down on Earth. Well, as you chase him around there, he less and less has a tendency to do that. In other words, he can fix himself much more precisely because he's gotten over the idea that he is interfered with by gravity.

Well, a person has to be willing to solve something before he'll exteriorize. That's a little maxim I give you and bequeath to you this afternoon. He has to be willing to attempt a solution before he will exteriorize. And he won't attempt a solution until he has a great number of problems, and until he knows down to the core of his awareness of awareness that he can dream up problems ad infinitum.

All right. Do you follow me, then — what you're doing and why this Change of Space is that way?

So what's the goal of this process? He's a little bit unhappy about being exteriorized. He feels calmer and he feels better, but there's something a little bit queasy about it, unstable about it and so forth. Well, the best thing that you can do to him, really, is show him that he hasn't had his havingness go all to pieces; he can always have something more. Actually, being exteriorized and being free, he can now have far more easily than previously. Well, you just don't tell him that; you run this process and he'll convince himself of it.

Well now look, though, remember what I first told you in R1-8 — remember R1-8? I told you that if he was going to be influenced by anything, if he was going to be an effect, remember, he would have to himself be hanging on to some mass, you know? As you chase him around to the Moon, to the Sun, to the Earth, and he is less and less influenced by gravity, you must be taking some mass away from him, huh? Ah, so that is the thing you must remember in running the Grand Tour: remedy his havingness.

"Now, what problems can you be in havingness?" and on and on and on.

"Put up eight anchor points and pull them in on yourself. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in on yourself. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in on yourself." Ah, he feels better!

What's the limit and goal of the process? He will at first believe that he could get a great many problems. He starts to think and invent them after a while, you see. You didn't tell him to invent them, but he will have to because he's drained the bank flat, which makes him very unhappy. He's got all the problems which are obvious. Now he has to start dreaming them up.

But this new energy that he mocked up is not now under the influence of gravity. So he can chase around to these various places and he can be fluid as can be. He can have his pockets full of old tin cans and other things which he's mocked up and it doesn't bother him. You see? You've freed him of gravity, even though you have given him some mass — but gravity is merely a consideration.

You say to him, "Now, what about this business about problems in havingness now — problems in havingness here? How many of these do you think you could dream up?" "Oh, I could dream up quite a few." That's not the answer you're looking for. The answer you're looking for is "I could probably go on forever dreaming up problems in havingness and not-havingness." Got that? "I could probably go on forever." In other words, he has to have some conviction that he can invent an infinity of problems in havingness and not-havingness. He must be able to invent an infinity of it, and know that he can, for him to stay stably exteriorized. You follow me?

All right. Let's get to the next point which is really destructive in the Grand Tour, really destructive of havingness. You have him find a rock and have him be inside that rock, and then have him be outside of it, and then be inside of it, and then be outside of it, and then be inside of it. By the way, a thetan drilled this way ceases to be afraid of being trapped, do you see this? All a trap is, is being inside something, interiorized. All right. And as long as he's afraid of being trapped, he will get into things, see, and stick.

It's a very important process, then, isn't it? But, then, we said that in two-way communication you could just keep asking a fellow "What kind of problems could you be to yourself? What kind of problems could you be to yourself? What kind of problems can you be to yourself? What kind of problems can you be to yourself? Give me some more problems that you could be to yourself. Some more problems you could be to yourself." And then for a little variation, "What problems could others be to you? What problems could others be to you? What problems could others be to you?" At first it'd be a limited number, but quite a few. At first he's hard put for them; he doesn't want to surrender any. And now he starts dreaming some up; he could invent quite a few. Now he can invent an infinity of them. If he can invent an infinity of problems, he can exteriorize.

All right. So you say, "Be inside the rock. Be outside the rock. Be inside the rock. Be outside the rock. Be inside the rock. Be outside the rock." And along about that moment, you will notice that his havingness is shot. So you'll say, "Put up eight anchor points and pull them in. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in. Put up eight anchor points and pull them in. Be inside the rock. Outside the rock. Inside the rock. Outside the rock. Inside the rock." This is about the speed of auditing, by the way, because if you're dealing with somebody exteriorized, there's no reason to put on the brakes. As soon as he executes or gives you any signification that he's executed, you give him the next auditing command. That is one of the hardest things that it takes an auditor to learn — is the fact that somebody exteriorized is fast! All right.

Why? Because a solution is zero; the ultimate solution is zero. Recently I discovered the ultimate truth and the ultimate solution. Prove it too. It's right in your Axioms in the printed edition. The ultimate truth and the ultimate solution — they're quite obvious.

So, "Be inside the rock. Outside the rock. Inside the rock. Outside the rock. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Inside the rock. Outside the rock. Inside the rock. Outside the rock. Inside the rock. Outside the rock. Okay. Center of Earth." Now, why did you take a rock? Well, that's just gradient scale, because you're working up to the center of Earth.

Therefore, an individual who is short on problems will not exteriorize. He has problems in lieu of objects; he has problems in lieu of havingness. And you'd better have him have an infinity of problems before you go on up-stairs to heavier masses.

All right. So you want him to be "Center of Earth. Outside Earth. Inside Earth. Outside Earth. Inside Earth. Outside Earth. Inside Earth. Outside Earth. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Inside the Moon. Outside the Moon. Inside the Moon. Outside the Moon. Inside the Moon. Outside of the Moon. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Inside the Sun. Outside the Sun. Inside the Sun. Outside the Sun. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Inside Earth. Outside Earth. Inside Earth. Outside Earth. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in. Eight anchor points and pull them in." That is about your speed of auditing, by the way.

Okay? Very well. I hope you know how to run that particular process now. You should, because it's right there in two-way communication and it's no different than that.

Okay. Well, what's happened to this boy about this time, though? If you didn't tell him to remedy his havingness, he would have just gone zuum-zuum-zuum. You're ripping to pieces every facsimile and engram that he is privately, secretly holding on to that tells him he can be trapped. You're just tearing them up at a mad rate. So let's give him havingness to make it up. It is the havingness which is the thing, not the significance of the havingness.

You could ask this thetan the same thing that you would ask him in a two-way communication: "What kind of problems could you be to yourself? What kind of problems could you be to yourself?" All kinds of machines will start to show up, and all kinds of problem machines and so forth. That'll stop him from using all this daffy machinery, by the way — all this daffy machinery that he keeps inventing and showing up with and asking you to unmock and so forth. That's all set up there so he can have an infinity of problems. He has problem-making machines, and a problem-making family, and he has a problem-breaking-down car.

When you finish up this drill ... It doesn't matter how long you take at it. Actually, a Grand Tour can be conducted in about a half an hour, total. But when you have finished this up you will have somebody who is no longer worried about gravity, who is no longer worried about being trapped and who is no longer worried about such things as the atomic blasts of the Sun.

Okay. That's all.

Now, there are many odds and ends that you throw in on a Grand Tour: "Find a Sun plume." The fellow says, "Yeah."

"Can you hear it?"

"Yeah." See, there's no air around the Sun but an electronic field can carry sound. One of the reasons a thetan is more afraid of sound than anything else is because it is, in the early part of the track, associated not with air, but by an electronic blast. The electronic blast itself was carrying sound.

So you say, "Find a plume and slide down on it to the face of the Sun. Find a plume and slide down to the face of the Sun." You're, in other words, coaxing him to move. Now you teach him to move.

You could have him find Mars. "Be outside of Mars and move down on the surface." But he's immediately going to discover the force field of Mars. I'm sorry that this has to be so. It's not science fiction. He will always discover the force field of Mars. There's something wrong with Mars.

And you say, "Move down to the surface of Mars." He doesn't like that. "Be on the surface of Mars."

"Okay"

"Be outside of Mars. On the surface of Mars. Outside of Mars. Be on the surface of Mars. Outside of Mars. Now, move down to surface of Mars."

Nyaa-nya-yann-nya-nya-ruu-ruu. He doesn't like that a bit. "Well, all right. I made it. Hey, what do you know. Uh-hu! Hey, there's something around here."

"Well, move out to the outer atmosphere of Mars. Move down to the surface of Mars." He finally gets so he can move through force fields.

Every once in a while you'll discover some boy who is standing there looking at a huge ultraviolet ball, or a big pyramid, such as you see on the dollar bill in all it . . . Actually, it's almost the exact emblem of the dollar bill. That's the Gates of Mars. That's a between-life area. He'll run into this and tell you all about it. Well, now don't you be surprised; it's simply the Gates of Mars — the call-back area. Just run Change of Space.

Now, the rest of this is Change of Space. Now, there's a whole list in the printed edition of the Auditor's Handbook that tells you all the places you change space.

How do you run somebody on Change of Space? It is something like Spotting Spots, but is the thetan's way of spotting spots. "Now, be in the childhood home. Be here. Be in the childhood home. Be here. Be in the child-hood home."

"Now be in this room" is better parlance. "Be in the childhood home. Be in this room. Childhood home. Be in this room. Childhood home. Be in this room." Back and forth, back and forth. Havingness rips to shreds, facsimiles fly off in all directions. You say, "Mock up eight anchor points and pull them in. Mock up eight childhood homes and pull them in. Eight more childhood homes and pull them." (It doesn't matter what you ask him to mock up.)

"Okay, now be at your entrance point to the MEST universe." That's a swindle, by the way. He was already in the MEST universe and then somebody got ahold of him and told him he's now in the MEST universe. He'll find this out.

Change of Space: If he's doing Change of Space very, very slowly it means that he's very short on havingness, so you just remedy havingness harder. If he gets real slow on Change of Space, remedy his havingness harder. That's the general law that goes back of this.

Now, you see what a Grand Tour is? A Grand Tour is essentially just chasing him around known parts of this universe. It could be extended; you could chase him all over the physical universe. You could have him be in the center of galaxies — anything you want — as long as you remember to remedy his havingness, to be in a certain spot, be in a certain spot, be in a certain spot, be in a certain spot (each time naming a different spot), and be inside of something and be outside of something.

One of the common practices in the Grand Tour is asking him to be in-side a black star — outside it, inside it, outside it, inside it. And ooh boy, does that rip him to pieces, because there are black stars up there which are so heavy and so dense that electrons can't escape from them, so they appear to be black but they are a seething electronic mass immediately on their surfaces.

That is a Grand Tour. It teaches a person not to be afraid of distance, so on. It is something which is run in stabilizing, and is a standard step and a necessary step in the stabilizing of a preclear.

Okay.