Transcript of Taped Lecture by L. Ron Hubbard Third ACC 6A - 5401C06 January 6, 1954 "SYMBOLS AND GROUP PROCESSING DEMO".

Which is the most effective, running a direct concept or wasting and so forth? Come on, which is?

This is December .... January.... Goodness sakes watch - the sixth it says. This is January the 6th, 1954 and I have the pleasure to announce this morning that I am the father of a baby boy! (Applause) Thank you. Susie said at three o’clock, you know, I just have a feeling like ... now that the Congress is over and everything, that...and so on, now we got things sort of straightened out with another unit going in, I think you’d better go ahead and have the baby. And so, I took her down to the hospital. The baby was born at six. And there was no difficulty of any kind and the doctor down there is getting spooked because this is the third or fourth, quote “Dianetic baby” unquote, that he has delivered. And he’s a very good doctor. He believes in natural birth and so forth, and doesn’t use a lot of this and that. Anyway, well, the, the main, the main point is, he says, “They don’t seem to have any trouble” (laughing).

Audience: [various responses]

So, anyway, here we have a new member to the family, and you know, I don’t have a name for him. I was scared that if I started throwing the names around and so forth, that... you know the privacy of the body and all that sort of thing, and I didn’t look... like the long-legged do on Christmas, but Susie was so set on a boy, and so, I didn’t even think up the name for the boy. So, this child has arrived without a name. Diana, of course, is named for Dianetics. And I don’t know quite what we’ll name this one. (Someone in audience says, “Cyrus”) Yeah, I kind of see, but that name ... no dice. Cyrus... the trouble with Cyrus was he kept getting defeated, if I remember rightly. Well, I’d appreciate a little help on that.

Male voice: Concept.

Audience: How about Wayne for way

Concept was more effective than wasting it on up the line, huh?

Well we could, not bad. Well, if you just, just ... Why don’t you put your recommendations on a slip and give them to me at the end of the hour. Lets just pick out some names (laughing). Birth certificate lying there blank.

Audience: [various responses]

I was quite surprised at the three hour delivery because, as you know, Susie hasn’t very much mass. She’s a very slender little girl, and to show you something about that, the truth of the matter is, many a preclear has been victimized back and forth because his mother was so slight, and so forth, well here’s Susie, about twice as slight as any mother I’ve ever run into, you see. We got over to London, you know, with Diana, and we couldn’t take a boat because Diana was just due and this doctor here, that has just delivered the boy, was the doctor who was going to deliver Diana. But at the last moment we decided to go to London and we had it all scheduled out. And we thought the baby would be born here, you see, and then Susie changed her mind and she climbed on an airplane. We got over there, we got a house. We moved in and the afternoon of the day we moved in, Diana was born. So, that was nicely scheduled too. Of course all this, you understand, is entirely by accident. (laugh). But the ... I’m very proud of the kid. He’s just doing wonderfully well. She’s just sitting up looking bright as a dollar and had a bath and missed her toothbrush. That’s about all she could complain about, toothbrush missing.

Male voice: They do different things.

Okay! Well on to business. Life rolls. We have ... if I seem a little foggy this morning, you understand, I haven’t had any sleep for two nights and the GE does not operate well when you don’t let the natural construction plan carry forward. You can put in the most beautiful, aesthetic, sibilant consonants and vowels into the vocal chords in order to be said and they come out like this (slurring his speech - garble). It’s very remarkable if you’ve ever, if you’ve ever been trying to handle your body while it was drunk. The ... It’s very weird because the anchor points have a habit of sort of caving in and clicking together like cue balls and billiard balls. They slap around and your balances go off and so forth and the last time that this happened to me was at the party the other night and I drove home. The body didn’t - I did. (laughing).

They both do different things.

It gets kind of difficult once in a while to talk in terms of personal pronouns. Nibs, you know, he’s got that all figured out. He, himself, a thetan, his name’s Nibs - and junior, that’s his body (Laugh). But if you ever do have difficulty managing the GE, just put your attention on the anchor points and put the anchor points exactly where they should be - in spite of where the GE mechanical set up wants them. And you’ve got ... get the difference? It doesn’t take much strain because you can develop a considerable amount of beef . He has two wing anchor points that are out there about to the right and left, in a GE that’s doing right well, about 50 feet. A GE that isn’t doing too well, about 20 feet and one that’s real bad off, well, they’re sort of twisted up and a GE that’s really in beautiful condition, they’re out there at about three quarters of a mile. And early on the track they were out there at about three quarters of a mile. By the way, a body is quite beautiful if it can carry its anchor points out that far.

What did it do to you?

It is noteworthy that FM and other electronic field manifestation here on earth today interfere with the anchor points of the body quite markedly. And ... this is no propaganda to get TV banned but if you suddenly find television stations having weird manifestations such as their cameras short out or everytime they’re taping a program, or something, why there’s curtains keep dropping across the scene, why you’ll know - not that I did it - but that two or three operating thetans got bored with trying to operate bodies being interfered with.

Female voice: It made me feel mean and ornery.

And ... All these various impulses have a tendency to interfere with the normal electronic current of the body. Alcohol interferes with it too. Mostly because it speeds up the burning rate and causes an anarchy. You might say, there’s some parts of the body aren’t getting served as well as other parts of the body, and so forth. It’s just too much fuel all of a sudden.

Male voices Concept is very effective until I ran out of something.

Well, that’s not entirely off the point. I had it exactly laid out what I was going to do for you this morning and I left it some place between here and the hospital and ... I could scan back over that. Let’s see... there was an Arizonian coming down the street, he took part of it. Can you imagine a guy being very angry at you for driving in your proper place on the street and honking his horn and passing you on the right side of your car ... that would be like in Great Britain passing on the left side of your car... and swerving over in front of you, honking his horn madly because there you are and can you imagine him having the side of his car all knocked in, and still have nerve enough to hold his nose up at you. I don’t think there were any spots on the car that hadn’t been hit. So I looked him over. He was 63, arthritic, had failed three times in business, and had at this point devoured almost entirely his entire engram bank for fuel. And ... this interesting fellow, interesting fellow. Well anyway, he got part of it. (laugh).

Ran out of something - ah! Well, all right

Well, our main consideration in instructing you along these lines of Advance Clinical Training are very, very finite. There’s a point here in my mentioning this goal several times on some off chance somebody might, might get the idea that I mean what I say, if I say it often enough. What I tell you three times is true, by the way, is one of the by-words of the society. If they say, eat pushmore once, that isn’t so. But if they say, eat pushmore, eat pushmore, eat pushmore, then everybody has to.

Come on, which do you find the most effective now? Let’s just make up your mind.

But here we have in this unit, the goal of turning out, not only some good auditors, but some excellent instructors. Now, we haven’t had that goal so much in other units and actually we have in Dianetics and Scientology, practically - oh ... just a tiny handful of people who can instruct. One of them is in this unit - as a matter of fact, there are two in this unit, who are very good at it already.

Female voice: Well the first part made me go down lower\ it just practically knocked me out.

Well, I’m not trying to set up this unit as an example of instruction, so much as to give you the fundamentals of instruction itself and to lay down for you the various methods by which you can train individuals. The navy has a method and it forgot about it a good many years ago but it still has the method on paper and that is to say, that you put the guy in the place where he’s supposed to be and you put him back there every time he steers off of it, and you do this often enough, he will eventually be in that position performing those evolutions in spite of anything that happens in his vicinity.

It did, huh?

Now, that is a method of overcoming lack of courage, overcoming lack of brains, lack of foresight, and everything else. It’s simply a mechanical method. Every time the fellow wanders off course, you fix him again in the position where you want him. In such a way, you get a gun trainer or a gun pointer - you get a Chief Petty officer or you get an Officer of the Deck who will perform his duties straight through to the end. And generally, a navy so trained becomes unbeatable.

Female voice: Yeah, ifthat’s being more effective, I guess that’s more. . .

The British navy adopted this method of training probably about 254 years ago and for a long, long while nothing could stand up to a British Man of War, although the odd part of it is they were inferior in terms of tonnage and armament. It was just a matter of training - nothing else. Nothing ever threatened the British navy until the people the British navy had trained, such as John Paul Jones, and so forth, also got some ships and the American navy has followed along fairly well in this tradition until recent years. I don’t know what they’re doing now but I noticed a young fellow the other day - he was wearing a navy blue raincoat and he had an army second lieutenant bar on the raincoat and I said, “well son”, I said, “what service do you belong to?” and he said ... looked at me strangely - just by ... thought he was a bellhop or something, the way a lot of people do - and informed me that he belonged to the U.S. Navy and I thought well, I thought maybe you belonged to the nautical branch of the U.S. army.

Well now, that’s a nice, refined, narrow use of it. Did you feel better when you wasted them?

The U.S. army gets very hungry every few decades and has to consolidate into the war department, the navy department and this lasts until the navy department is found to be unworkable in this circumstance, at which time they recreate and separate the navy department out. We think we’re so modern by having a Department of Defense. That’s what the name War Department meant when it was formed very early. This curious, curious government which has a department called the War Department which includes the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, or anything even vaguely resembling it - has it for a hundred years, or something on that order, then creates a Navy Department and separates out the navy and the marine corps and then turns around and recreates a Department of Defense in order to incorporate the War Department and the Navy Department. This is what is known as, this is what is known as ... involution.

Audience: No. [various responses]

Well, anytime you get training of a repetitive pattern which is entirely mechanical, which has to do with putting the man in the place and making him go through motions, you’re going to get a certain degree of success. But believe me, you’re not going to get any thinkingness. Now, anytime you get services mixed up and scrambled up and this and that, and so forth, you’ll begin to understand that the people in those services don’t know what the hell they’re doing. I mean they’re not just stupid, they’re ignorant. But they are well trained. They’re really well trained. The definition of that kind of training is - no change. So don’t bring out, don’t bring out a twenty millimeter allican, even though it can shoot six hundred rounds a minute, when they’re perfectly satisfied with a muzzle loading serpentine. They... resistance to change then goes up, to the degree that an individual is trained on the procedure I just mentioned.

Well, that you will find to be the case. And that’s why I ran you on a concept first. But I evidently didn’t make my point too well. Do you feel better now?

Resistance to change goes up to the degree that the individual has been trained into - no change - and we get these two factors combining and we find therein that the last way we want to train an auditor is so he won’t think and won’t change. Because what the auditor is being trained to do is to produce a change in the preclear and if the auditor can’t change, believe me the preclear never will.

Audience: Yes.

So our training must have some happy medium between reestablishing a complete freedom and autonomy on the part of an auditor, which in itself, by the way, is not too desirable since he will never have anything where he can sit back and relax and let the wheels spin for a little while, you know. There is that - and if you don’t give him that, why you’ve made him be original and made him look every day, and so forth. And - let’s be a little practical and realize that as the techniques approach a higher level of workability and the common denominators are more easily understood and seen that the auditor has less and less problem, actually, with the idiosynchrocies of the preclear’s case. And, as such then you should strike some medium which permits the auditor to sit back on training you have given him. So, you’d better give him some training of the type which just simply grinds it out.

Did you feel better when you finished running those concepts?

Complete autonomy is not desirable and complete slavery and complete rigidity is alike not desirable. And so, somewhere between these two we have to solve the problem of the education of an auditor. I am told, although I have no proof for it, never in the past have I attended one of their schools, that the Jesuit order prided itself on educating an individual without yet breaking his pride, and I suppose that their ability to do this had some foundation in the very toughness of the Jesuit order itself. The order was so thoroughly tough that it at length became a threat to the entire Catholic church and was banished. The order of Jesuits today, if it exists at all - I think it exists as a name - is not the order of Jesuits of which you hear back down through history. That was one of the roughest, toughest, meanest bodies of men who ever lived. A Jesuit would go out into the farthest outpost and then strike off to go somewhere and when he got finished putting a post together, or a school together, or something on that order - it stood.

Audience: Yes.

And, as you cruise around the world, if you ask, you will find that most of the firm foundations that are standing in our civilized society in this world were, one way or another, founded by the Order of Jesuits. Now this is a very strange statement to make in view of the tremendous pioneering efforts on the part of so many people but here was an order which itself didn’t conceive of any limitation on human flesh. It didn’t believe that this could happen, that anything could harm or hurt or upset a human body. And, operating on this premise, the ... for instance, it was the senior order to many other branch orders, and it’s training was felt in many directions. It, it was very ironclad. Now there the failure of that order, by the way, was the failure of the Catholic church. When they pulled the props out from underneath that, they just might as well have folded up their tents. What have they got now? They got a few churches and some paintings by Mike Angelo.

You still felt better. Well, the stuff is pretty hard to make it unworkable. But the living proof of the matter is, is most of your preclears that come up won’t be able to get even a concept of something except in a symbolical form until they’ve wasted it. Wasting betters a case and running the concepts has a tendency to bog it, you’ll find by experience.

But when it comes to, when it comes to training this organization repudetly, I don’t know this by experience, but repudetly was the one which was sought out by the aristocrats of the civilized world to train their sons because they could train these boys without breaking their spirit. Well how did they do that? I suppose they just set up some sort of a standard whereby the boy would consider himself so much tougher than anything else, that he didn’t have to pay any attention to fatigue or worry or concern about his future. He was just too tough, that was all. And, so he had all the latitude in the world to be graceful, and to be learned and to carry forward on his own self determinism. And, you see, a fellow actually could be trained in to his self determinism.

Don’t evaluate a technique by how deeply it slugs your preclear out, since he’ll just eventually just run out of havingness, you know. He’ll just run out of havingness and then we won’t know quite what we’re doing, one way or the other. But wasting, saving and so forth is better on the thing.

Well, it’s not an optimum solution for you, as an instructor, to simply grind down hard on a ... on an auditor continuously and balk his understanding and override his questions and say, well all right, you do it according to the book, and so forth. Neither is it optimum to let him wander too far because if he starts wandering way off and getting terribly thinking about thinkingness, and so forth, why he’ll waste a lot of time for you.

All right. What did you get on symbols? You find out anything about yourself? Yes?

He’ll start covering ground that has been covered, that you as an instructor knowing undoubtedly more than your student knows, will know has been covered. That you, yourself have looked at many of these things and you will find him wandering off and wasting an awful lot of instruction time on investigation of things which have no bearing on anything but his own case. You’ll find men love to examine those things which make it possible for them not to look at what they should be looking at.

Female voice: I did. I found I’d been doing it all my life.

All right! So, these problems are posed and believe me these are the same problems that we have right here. We have no different problem - right here. We have here a group of people who have, uniformly, some experience. A lot of experience and a lot of instruction. Well, we have another problem which you’re never going to have. Most of this group got raised up, you might say, in a subject as it evolved and that is a little bit different, that is just a little bit different than taking a straight level of subject and presenting it.

Doing what?

So, that actually most of the people here are completing three years of training. And when you complete this three years of training, because I never considered that anybody who’s gone through a clinical unit, never considered that he is stopped off. I never expect to see him in another school; but I do expect him to carry forward on some application, do a paper or two and hang his name up for himself a bit there, so that a little bit later on, we can make a doctor out of him. Now that’s ... that’s right in the cards and this is the level we’re training at.

Female voice: The brackets you were running - I suddenly discovered that that. ..

That’s why I tell you we can’t really take this pattern of training for the training pattern you’re going to use on auditors. You see? We’re a different school than the one you will be running. So, I just give you that word of caution and the only reason I’m talking about it this early in the course is, later on some of you are going to be training auditors or you’re going to be training group moderators, or you’re going to be training people who will be working in communications, or you’re going to be training something or other, and you’re liable to think of the kind of a training course I’d carry on or you’re liable to look at this course and think it’s a pattern and you’re liable to do this without thinking that you’re doing it. See, I just want to call to your attention that you’re liable to do it.

Saving symbols, desiring ...Female voice:. .. had been the masses - that I’d been doing - resisting this and resisting that. And I found that people had been doing it to me all my life and I hadn’t known it.

This isn’t. This is a relatively informal group. You will have to be a lot tougher, a lot tougher on a group of students, than I ever expect to be on you. Because I expect to be tough on you in quite a different way than by the discipline of what you know. The toughness that we have here is just the ... just this one thing. You’re dam well going to be able to get results on preclears and you’re dam well going to be able to train people when you get through here. It’s just a certain strange little determination I have. It’s peculiar perhaps, but I intend to do that on a .. pretty well on a personalized basis. I can line you up and size you up and I know about where you’ll go and where you’ll go off right now, and I’m not watching for you to pull something or fall by the wayside or something of the sort - or anything like that but I don’t expect to do it by your faults but I expect to do it by giving you your instruction in various slanted ways so that it fits your personal problems.

That’s right, that’s right. Well, I tell you, it’s a remarkable thing, but people talk a lot about "Well i£ just other people didn’t mess me up and so forth, why, I’d get along all right.” And the truth of the matter is, they’re really not very dangerous to each other. They’re really not. As people, they’re dangerous to each other, but you’re not people. You get what I mean? It’s a little abstruse, maybe, but you get what I mean?

It’s an entirely different kind of education than you’ll be doing. Yes, because when I can see that you, training a group of students, will be training them from a standardized level of processing, number one, see. You will be teaching them how to apply something or other, and something or other, and something or other, and so on. Furthermore, you will run things with a punctuality of schedule to save your own skin, and your own time. And, again you will put a great deal of weight on ... you can’t help this - I mean, you just fall into the rut the second you go into education. You put weight on their quizzes, and you’ll put some evaluation on their .... what they speak up and how quick they answer back, and so forth. So, your tendency is to just standardize the living daylights out of it, if you don’t watch yourself - and the other tendency is, of course, to run it very loose and highly personalized. Now, if you want to just sit down and train a couple of auditors - oh yeah - you could do a terrific job, no formula, no formulation - nothing like this - you just do a very, very personal sort of job of training on the auditor. It, by the way, is not really as beneficial as training them in a bigger group. He never really feels he’s been trained because he hasn’t been part of a mass. There’s a certain mass necessary to a good feeling of training. That’s not a military man talking. This happens to be true.

Female voice: No.

For instance, because thee and thee went through another unit, and certainly this unit, together, why later on thee and thee meet in a large class of students and so forth, and thee and thee ... you really don’t have much of a tendency to include them in a conversation. You fall into a caste system if you’ve gone through any unit.

It’s a little abstruse. I’m not insulting your intelligence. I mean it’s just - there is a point there. If our purpose is to preserve a bunch of bodies and if we’re sort of here on a mission of putting them all on ice, well, yeah - yeah, people can be very harmful to people. See that? But if we’re here for the business of livingness - which is not necessarily the business of preserving a body at all - let me assure you that there’s something very dramatic in throwing one away with great elan. Why, we find out that people are very far from dangerous to people but are necessary to complete livingness.

There’s nothing wrong, by the way, with a caste system. It at least avoids this horrible thing called equality. Fraternity - Equality - Fragility. (laugh). Now, these are just considerations, you see. I’m not giving you the answer to the thing. I’m just ... stirring something up and therefore you can take a look at this - it’s a balloon. A little later on, why I want you ... I’ll never mention this again - sometime or another I want you to just make up your mind just to how you would run a course. And, I’m pointing this out at this time so that you won’t get an automaticity of having made up your mind. It’s up to you to make up your mind some time or another, how you’re gonna run a course.

And so we get pulled between these two things: life’s insistence upon survive and preserve and repair and patch up and the static, a thetan’s desire to live. And an individual is caught between these two points. Of course, he’s caught in lots of points, but the main thing it is, is gee, he’d sure like to live and, golly, he sure has to preserve this body!

Okay! So much for that! One thing that you’re going to be victimized by a little bit, but I hope not very much, is getting a terrific amount of data before it can hit where it lives on your case and ... I haven’t been feeding you very much data. Most of the data we’re being fed ... evening there ... you’re supposed to get definitions. Did you get definitions last night? That’s right. You’re supposed to get those for quite a little while. I find out it makes a lot better auditors when they know what the tools are, because those are just basic tools. It’s like .. this is a hammer - and sooner or later, you all of a sudden, you’ll just look at them on the basis of - well, this is a hammer, you know.

Well now, when they start resisting, they get worried about preserving and that is about the only big major trap there is, is resistance, resistance. You can get somebody to resist something, why, you’ll just fix him all up. There’s no truer truism than "that which you resist you become.”

All right! You’ll have to decide too, in training auditors, another little thing that just occurred to me - how much processing you’re going to give them before you tell them anything. Now, the optimum is, is to process them before you tell them anything. Process them with what we have now three, four weeks, at least, and never let them look at anything - but, do you know, that would be silly to do that to you. It’d just be silly to do that to you for the good reason that we’ve already entered into our problem here. This problem - You already know the data - and so to forebear on telling you data on the grounds that it would speed up your case is, of course, silly.

All right. Now, what’s a symbol?

But, this is not true of somebody you get in, who’s just read a book or two and maybe audited somebody out of a textbook, or something like that. And you get him in there, you slam him in an auditing chair and you keep him there for three or four weeks and you train him up from that - and boy! You have reaped riches. More darn thing. When you start to train him, you’ll understand a lot more.

Female voice: A form of an idea?

Well, we were kind of drug up like Topsy - and all the way along the line, a lot of the people here ....... ( a part missing in here - it runs blank on the tape for about 5-6 seconds.) Wow, therefore you should be able to understand it a heck of a lot better as an evolution of information. A few years from now, you’ll never be able to convince anybody that it’s an evolution of information. You know, it’s just a subject. It didn’t evolve any place. It’s a subject and it has this kind of a shape, and so forth.

Oh, that’s very close.

Well, so I stand here trying to make up my mind whether to process you on this or tell you about it. Hmm. Well, if I give you the personal experience of this you’ll certainly never miss on it. So I guess I’ll just butcher ya because honest to Christ, I don’t know which way to butcher... (laughing). I can butcher you by telling you about it, or butcher you by group processing you on it. Now, it’s a little bit on the side of butchery because you’re gonna stick somewhere, I know it.

Female voice: Somethingyou can present something else?

This is the beefiest technique which you can run on a preclear. So lets run it!

That’s very close.

Let’s take the gradient scale. Now I’m gonna do - I’ll tell you exactly what the technique is. It’s a gradient scale from Know down on through Look, Emote, Effort, Think and Symbols - in brackets - resistance to - and DEI.*DEI = the Desire, Enforce, Inhibit scale, later expanded to the CDEI scale used in modern processing - FZ.B.A.

Female voice: Somethingyou live by.

So, the first thing I want you to get, is get the idea of resisting symbols.

Yeah, that’s an ideal, that’s not a symbol. That’s all right, that’s one of its variable meanings. I mean . . .Well look, we have a lot of divergent ideas on what a symbol is. It happens that, for our purposes in Scientology, this thing called a symbol can be given a finite definition which will clarify a great deal of the work we are doing. And it’s a very precise definition - very, very, very precise. That is, a symbol is an idea which is fixed in energy which is mobile. Which is mobile.

Get the idea now, of resisting symbols - sit there and get it.

Male voice: How tr that differentfrom a postulate?

Now, - put somebody else out in front of it. Put somebody else out there.

From a what?

Now, get him - he’s resisting symbols - not your symbols or anything. He’s just resisting symbols.

Male voice: A postulate.

Okay - put two more people out there - two more people - and have one of them resisting the symbols of the other one.

Oh, the difference between a symbol and a postulate. Ah, yes. Well, we’ll get to that in a minute. A symbol is a postulate which has already been fixed. A postulate is something which an individual makes. When he has made a postulate, he thereafter may fix it in a mass and give it mobility.

Now, have this one - you still got those two people now - get this still one - have him resist the symbols of the other one for somebody else.

Female voice: Could the symbol be a way of ascribing automaticity to our postulates?

That falls away - And put somebody else out in front of you and get him resisting your symbols.

Yes. Yes. That’s where we’re going. You’re a very, very bright girl this morning. Did the processing do it or a night’s sleep?

Now throw that one away - Put another somebody out in front of you and get you resisting his symbols.

Female voice: Could be, since I’ve been so deep in apathy all night and I’m coming up again now.

Pick it off the peak later, Jimmy, otherwise you’ll be working at effort against your record. Nothing wrong with taking a note but you’ll just be working an effort against it. (The recorder answered with something - indistinguishable). I’d rather you wouldn’t... It’ll ...

Why were you in apathy?

Now, you got that!

Female voice: I don’t know, [laughing] There you are! There’s your answer.

All right, now get you resisting his symbols for somebody else. - You resisting his symbols for somebody else.

All right. Now, let’s take a look at. ..

Now get him resisting your symbols for somebody else.

Female voice: No fault of the auditor, Ron, she’s a very good auditor.

Now let’s put a flock of symbols out there resisting symbols.

I would never have thought of it unless you’d mentioned it there. Who is the auditor? Let’s “chastise” her. [laughter]

And put another flock of symbols resisting the symbols of the flock of symbols that were just resisted.

Female voice: She did a good job.

Now set up another set of symbols that resist the symbols which are already being resisted elsewhere.

All right. Now, let’s take a look at this thing called a symbol. And let’s look at that definition and now let’s take another definition, let’s take the definition of work in physics.

Okay - throw all that away now.

We all know what work is, don’t we? But in physics, work is a very finite definition. And when you say “work” in the science of physics, you mean foot-pounds of energy, you mean distance-mass-gravity factor. You’re talking about something terrifically finite, you understand that? So let’s understand, right here, the difference between а - you might say - a type of definition which amounts to a law and a definition out of a dictionary on a word. You see, they can vary slightly.

Now let’s put somebody in front of you and get this other person resisting thinking.

Now, if we take this thing called symbol and we give it the definition we have just given it and if we use that definition, we are thereafter able to understand and codify a great deal of livingness and see what is taking place in this livingness. It broadens, somewhat, the definition of symbol.

And - Throw him away and get you resisting thinking.

A postulate is something that you can give or take or pull or hand out or do almost anything with. But when you make a postulate into a symbol, you have surrounded the symbol with mass-energy of one kind or another - and you have granted it mobility. You have fixed it in energy and granted it a mobility. It’s a neat trick, isn’t it?

All right - Put somebody else in front of you and get you resisting his thinking.

Now, let’s take a symbol - the letter “a”, the article "zz”in the English language and you see that the moment we put it into the airwaves, we have given it some mass and handed it some mobility. Well, this makes it very difficult to locate. Theta, according to the Prelogics, creates space and time and energy in which to locate things. It is very happy when it is fixing things accurately in space and your preclear will get as well as he can fix things accurately in time and in space and he’s very happy about that, you see?

All right - Throw that away, and - Put two other people in front of you, one resisting the other’s thinking.

Now, let’s take this thing he does with this thing we call a symbol - ha-ha, boy, ha! Isn’t that a wonderful thing. We wrap it up in energy and then we give it mobility and, after that, it’s lost but it’s still there. So it compounds into invisible barriers and into the most confounding and incomprehensible of puzzles. Take the letter “a” in the English language, let’s garb it in printer’s ink, put it in a book and then the book moves out of the library onto laps and back onto shelves and back onto laps and here it goes! And it’s got this letter “a”, this article "z/”in it. It is a symbol and it just keeps on moving and you never get track of it afterwards. The only thing which can pierce sixteen-inch armor plate is a symbol.

Okay - Now have him resist the other’s thinking for somebody else.

A bullet is not, accurately speaking, a symbol. All a bullet is, is some mass. Now, it can be mass with meaning. It could be a silver bullet, but just a bullet - it’s just a mass. You could set it up and say, “Now this is a symbol of war” and discuss it and give meaning to it. As long as you use it actively and expend it - create it and expend it and locate it and fix it—it’s not a symbol, it’s just mass. See, that’s just a piece of energy. But now, let’s take the letter “a” and put it in printer’s ink.

Now throw those away,- Put somebody else in front of you and get you resisting this other person’s thinking.

All right. Now let’s take another symbol. We’ll call it “police.” It’s a word, isn’t it? That’s all it is, a word. All right, we take this word and we garb it in energy, we give it an ideal and we make it mobile and we get it lost and then we don’t know where it is and the next thing you know, it’s after us. You see that about police? Now, let’s take somebody who is present here. This person has been trained in judo, he is really an expert in judo. He is very good with a Colt pistol - extremely good with a Colt pistol. His alertness is good and his reaction time is much better than normal. All right. Will you please tell me why this person should be afraid of a police officer?

Get you resisting it for somebody else.

A police officer is seldom a good shot, is poorly if at all trained in judo and has reaction time which is mostly fat. And yet, if a police officer were to walk in the door and say, “Come down with me to the jail and lose two days,” this fellow would probably go along with him. Why? Why? It’s nonsensical. Well, it’s because the individual here has a symbol called “police.”

Throw that person away, and - Put another one in front of you and get him resisting your thinking for somebody else.

Now, let’s suppose this individual didn’t have this word called “police” and didn’t know the meaning of police and had no further significance to police and some character in a uniform walked in the door and flourished a gun on him, why, he’d just bury the guy that walked in at the door, that’s all. You see that?

Okay - Throw that out.

Life would be awfully simple, wouldn’t it, if we didn’t have a symbol? It would be simple, 5 direct and without a long time lag. Because the only real trouble with the police is if he killed this fellow, then some more police would come tomorrow - he thinks - according to the symbol. Actually, they might not, they might say, “Well, we’d better not arrest that fellow.”

Get you resisting effort.

You see whither we are going with this thing called symbol? It’s an embracive idea and it gets fixed in mass. And because it’s mass and because a thetan is often hungry for energy, he will pick up one of these things. And because he objects to their confounded mobility, he will try to hold one still and after that, having resisted it, he will become it.

And - Get somebody else in front of you and get him resisting effort.

A body could be said to be a symbol. It’s mobile, it’s an idea, it’s fixed in mass and we find, strangely enough, that a thetan who believes he’s a body has already adopted a great number of ethics, ideals and otherwise and fixations and arbitraries. And when we start to process him, we exteriorize hirn and he says, “I’m not a body! Huh!”

Now throw that away - Get two other people in front of you and have one resisting the effort of the other.

And what do you know, you shed, at that moment, an enormous number of the arbitraries which have been holding him into a persistence in life and denying him livingness. He hasn’t any action or anything else, as long as this takes place—his fluidity. So the effort of the individual to fix and unfix ideas in matter, in energy, shows up immediately and intimately on the business of the symbol. Right?

Now - Have him resisting the effort of another for somebody else.

So these damn things float around and people try to nail them down. A bibliophile is actually trying to nail down a bunch of symbols. He thinks they’re valuable and desirable. He didn’t start that way. That which a person resists, he will eventually find very valuable and very necessary. He wants it, he knows he wants it.

All right, throw them away - Get somebody in front of you and get yourself resisting his effort.

Symbols. It’s a fantastic thing. If an entity shows up or something like that - you’re exteriorized someplace and you all of a sudden see this character - and by the way, I don’t know that a thetan is the only livingness. I just happen to know that you’re thetans, you see? But I also don’t know if there’s such a thing as an evil demon that exceeds the value and power of a thetan and, as a matter of fact, Г know quite the contrary. Those things which show up in that form succumb with such speed that they appear to be more symbols than anything else. All right.

Now - Resist his effort for somebody else.

Yes?

Throw that away - and - Get somebody in front of you resisting your effort.

Female voice: Could you say a symbol was an enforced idea of a selected mass?

Get him resisting your effort for somebody else.

No. No. You have already limited it. It might be an invited idea. It might be a very pleasant idea. It might be a hidden idea. Don’t add intention to the symbol. Intention is entirely separate from this definition. There’s symbols and men can add all sorts of intentions to all kinds of symbols.

Okay - Throw that away.

Let’s take the symbol called “freedom.” Let’s print it up on a poster, that puts it in mass. And then the poster can appear almost anyplace and then somebody comes along - some politician - and starts screaming “Freedom.” Well, what’s this politician want to do? He wants to do some slavery. So, what’s his intention with regard to the symbol? The symbol is a weak and will - less thing which is a tool in the hands of anyone and depends for its existence - as do all things, except the static itself - on agreement. And when you have grasped this principle entirely and completely, you will understand not only what an engram is, what an aberration is and what your preclear is frantic about.

Let’s get you resisting emotion.

A thetan fixes and unfixes ideas in energy. When he builds something, he fixes it in energy. Rather simple, isn’t it? When he takes something down, he unfixes an idea out of energy. Now he’s got all these floating ideas in energy - they’re mobile, they go all around. He can’t locate them - they’re here today and gone tomorrow. Will-o’-the-wisp. It’s a Fabian warfare he fights. So he gets a passion for having everything nailed down.And this passion sticks him on the time track, fixes him in energy masses such as engrams, gives him automaticities, makes him do all the damnedest foolest things that you can think of

All right - Let’s get somebody in front of you resisting your emotion.

A symbol has a greater liability than it has a value. But it has a great value. If we continued to talk or converse directly as a fluid flow of ideas, our beingness would at once be very perceivable. But by avoiding, by hiding, we can put our ideas into symbols and then transmit them. And the symbols so transmitted, then do not disclose what we may wish to hold back as our basic intention. And so we get everybody looking through the symbol to find the meaning behind it. And this is a constant dramatization on the part of a thetan. He looks through the symbol to find what’s behind it.

Throw him away - get two other people in front of you one resisting the other’s emotion.

In such, words to him are invisible barriers. They’re barriers because they’re made out of mass. They actually have mass. You can cut some out of a book sometime and weigh them if you want to. Spoken words actually have mass. You can put up a Koenig photometer and talk at its gas flame and you will see immediately that something is vibrating that gas flame - something which is not just wind but a vibration is activating the particles of air. And so we have a fluid flow of ideas which are yet floating along in an energy mass.

All right - Have that one resisting the other’s emotion for somebody else.

Now, we start to process an engram out of somebody and we find out that we’re running one of the most complex symbols you ever looked at. It’s got Lord knows how many perceptics in it and it’s got all kinds of things - a wonderful gimmick, an engram. Now, you start to process this engram today and you think you’ll finish it off tomorrow but it’s gone and then it recurs six months from now. In other words, it has mobility.

Throw him away - Get somebody else in front of you and get you resisting his emotion.

When you are pursuing, exclusively, the course of searching for and eradicating the symbol, you are just dramatizing whole track. Because a thetan has really never done anything else in terms of worry or anxiety or upset and so forth. As long as he can get in there and shoot, he’s all right. As long as he can get in there and build a house and tear it down, he’s all right. And as long as he can put up a great big beautiful mock-up that’s just pretty or blow one up, he’s all right. As long as he can engage in a game which has an actual finite football and chase that football up and down the field and knock people flat and do all sorts of things, he’s all right.

But the second he begins this endless task, this endless chase of the symbol - the findingness of the hidden meaningness behind thee - he’s a lost dog. Because the symbol is lost. And so the thetan who tries to locate them, himself, gets lost. And the lost feeling which an individual has is the pursuit of the symbol. Not the pursuit of a great big oak tree, not the pursuit of this and not the pursuit of finite things, solid things, and not even the pursuit of thought. Thought itself is not necessarily a flock of symbols. Now you understand that? Thought is postulates.

Now, a thetan, in his ideal state, can make a postulate and make it stick and make it act and take it up and throw it out. Now, he can, in his ideal state, make a symbol and tear one up. He can explode one that comes into him, he can blow it, he can release it, he can change his mind.

Get you resisting his emotion now, for somebody else.

But once he has become so engrossed in this search for the meaning behind symbols that he has accumulated, Lord knows how many in packed masses, when he is no longer able to face up to them, when he believes that symbols are more powerful than he - he the creator of symbols, you see, is now being bludgeoned by the symbols - that’s an engram in restimulation. The creator of engrams, you might say, suddenly finds himself being hit by engrams. He believes that he himself must be of a lower order of symbol. So therefore, he must have mass. So therefore, he can’t make postulates. So therefore, he can’t undo postulates. So therefore, when he makes up his mind wrongly, it stays made up wrongly. Why? Well, because he can’t undo this.

Now - Get him resisting your emotion.

And so out of fixing and unfixing ideas and the floating and mobile character of symbols, we actually get the mechanical-rhe. mechanical side of sanity and aberration. We also get the mechanical side of exteriorization. The deeper an individual gets into symbols,

Have him resisting your emotion for somebody else.

Now, when you have a good command of what a symbol is and the chasing of symbols this way and when you get an understanding of what a thetan is and that he is a static - he is a static which can place itself or perceive from himself at any point over any set of particles at will and instantaneously - why, We see that we are trying to remove a preclear up the scale from the point of being a mass or a symbol or an answer, up toward a point where he is creative and where he can make postulates and so on. The second that he can do this, he can impose space on terminals and he can exteriorize very easily. He has no difficulty in retaining his identity, but he has his identity all mixed up with symbols.

Throw it away.

Now, let’s take this thing called a name. An awful lot of preclears are in terrible shape simply because of their name. You take the fellow’s name and you move it around as a symbol, in moving postulates, and all of a sudden the case begins to free up.

Okay - now - Let’s get you , let’s get you resisting looking.

Silly name. There’s a case, a notable case, that had been audited by practically every auditor in Greater New York and was audited by a member of the First Unit. And this case’s name added Up to “water.” And all this case ever did for an auditor was blow grief charge and got no better. This case was being the symbol - being water and would just dramatize this and continued to dramatize this and continued to dramatize it until all of a sudden, why, the auditor would say, “Well, we blew that big beautiful grief charge and so the case will be better.” But the case was no better. So this became an enormous mystery.

All right - Let’s get somebody else in front of you and get him resisting looking.

So a thetan becomes something and sells himself on the idea he is it merely because he’s so exhausted in this combat with symbols, freedoms, ethics, ideals, evils - these things become symbols - and he avoids them one way or the other and then he doesn’t know what to avoid because they’re mobile. And he never knows where they’ll turn up or anything else. His identity is something that is quite treacherous. Identity is a very treacherous thing, it turns up in police stations.

Now - Get him resisting looking from you - resisting your looking.

Most of the boys you are having trouble exteriorizing, by the way, have a record a light-year long. That’s right, they have a record a light-year long. That doesn’t mean they’re criminal on Earth or in this lifetime - but they’ve had their days. Put them on an E-Meter and you keep knocking it off the pin. They’re wanted in this galaxy and that galaxy - that sounds like just space opera, but it happens to be very true.

Have him resisting looking for somebody else.

Now, they are dodging. They’re dodging the symbol called “law and order.” Well, can’t they create law and order? Well, they sure can. Well, what are they dodging law and order for? Well, that’s because they know they have an identity. But do they? An identity is forced upon one until he believes he will desire it. He begins to resist an identity until he is an identity. The one thing that I can tell you every thetan has in common is a terrible background of resistance to bodies. Oh, but thoroughly, the last thing in the world a thetan would be, would be a body! So here you are. That’s a resistance to a symbol, in essence, because that symbol is an identity. And as an identity, it fixes the individual instead of him fixing it.

Throw him away - Get two people out in front of you and get one resisting the looking of the other.

Now, we have a problem with any symbol: is the individual fixing the symbol or is the symbol fixing him? And the way you keep symbols from fixing the individual that are pinning him down is very easy. You just mock it up and move it around until he realizes he’s moving it, it’s not moving him. You let him find it, in other words. It’s an End of Cycle Processing to mock-up symbols. Sure, because he’s been looking for a symbol.

Now - have him resist the looking of the other for somebody else.

All right. Have him mock-up the symbol called “freedom.” Whole populaces have gone to their death, whole civilizations have been destroyed, simply by people looking for freedom. The greatest slaveries ever established on Earth were established in the name of freedom. Why? Because everybody was trying to close terminals and locate it and find it and so forth and they were trying to find freedom by avoiding slavery. So they closed terminals with slavery and there they were. Freedom was the opposite to slavery, so they had to fight slavery in order to have freedom and that made slaves out of them. This is the most elementary of problems. It is not even difficult. But it lies in this exact field: a thetan conceives that he has mass if he conceives that he is a symbol. If he is an identity, why, then he feels he has mass, so he becomes, to that degree, hard to exteriorize.

Throw him away - Now, - Put somebody else in front of you and get you resisting this person’s looking.

There are several ways to solve this. He believes his entire beingness depends on his having a name. If that’s what his entire beingness depends upon, why, good heavens, of course then he’s going to be nailed down. How else could he be nailed down but by resisting a symbol - а name? He didn’t want a name at first, that’s why he thinks he has to have one. And we get this “what you resist you become.” An individual resists having an identity and eventually becomes an identity.

Get you resisting this person’s looking for somebody else.

Well, then this is the problem in exteriorization and it’s that intimate. Anybody who’s difficult to exteriorize, who simply - “Be three feet back of your head” and you’re not three feet back of your head, is a symbol. He’s not a being without mass. And there are many symbols which are greater than he.

Okay - Throw him away.

One of the ways of doing it is simply just take a look over the numbers of symbols which are greater than himself, in terms of an E-Meter - just ask him that, “On the eight dynamics, what symbols, what words are bigger than you are?” And you’ll get the most interesting responses on a needle. Then you simply have him mock these up and move them through space from point to point, back and forth, up, down and around until he’s moving them, they’re not moving him.

Now, - Get you resisting knowing.

And he says, “Well, I’m not - I’m bigger than that!”

Okay - Put somebody else in front of you and get you resisting his knowing.

And the next thing you know, you say, “Be three feet back of your head” and he is.

Throw him away - Get somebody else in front of you resisting your knowing.

Your problem of exteriorization, then, departs from an understanding of this: that a thetan in a creative state does not himself have mass and an understanding of how he gets mass. He gets mass by becoming himself a symbol. Of course, the last thing in the world he is, is a symbol. It’s like a fellow who makes drums all his life and eventually sits down in the corner curled up like a drum and expects somebody to beat on him. This fellow hates drums - so he becomes a drummer. See that?

Throw him away - Get two people in front of you, one resisting the knowing of the other.

Now, why is this? Why does a fellow become what he resists? Well, he just sweeps down on it in this fashion: he starts fighting it with energy and he gets more loses than he gets wins and so he gets to be it. Now, let’s get that much more simply. Let’s get the problem of the stuck flow: the fellow talks in one direction too long, he’ll get a stuck flow. Now, the way you unstick this flow is to reverse it or get some mock-ups and get it budged out of line, get it squared around and knock it off.

Now, - Get him resisting the knowing of the other for somebody else.

Well now, when he starts resisting something, very arduously starts resisting something - you know, crush, crush, crunch, crunch - he gets a stuck flow. Similarly, when he starts giving postulates toward something (in other words, commands or orders in one direction) and it never gives any back, he gets on a stuck flow. He eventually gets to the point where he can’t force anything along that line and the line itself will collapse. And that is the end product of a stuck flow: it collapses into a mass.

All right - Throw that away - Get somebody in front of you resisting your knowing for somebody else.

All communication lines eventually wind up to be one terminal - both ends. Anytime they stick too hard on a flow, why, they’ll eventually do that.

Throw that away - Get you resisting somebody else’s knowing for somebody else.

So your thetan stood outside the body for a long time giving it orders, telling it to destroy itself or something and, eventually, why, the very mass of material which he put out in one direction became a stuck flow and we got a collapsed terminal proposition.

Okay - Now, - Let’s get you resisting eating.

Now what’s a collapsed terminal? That’s something that should have two ends which now has both ends in coincidence - both ends in the same place. Now that’s a collapsed terminal.

Somebody else resisting eating.

You’re going to hear this phrase an awful lot - collapsed terminal. Better get used to it. You’ll notice many preclears have collapsed terminals. Well, right next door to a collapsed terminal is becoming the thing you’re collapsed with. You’re right there, so you must be it. That’s the immediate assumption.

Get this somebody else specifically resisting your eating.

Now, thought is very agile. But when it gets fixed in terms of a symbol, it becomes much less agile. It loses its creativeness. Let’s take the plight of the writer who writes, writes, writes, writes, writes Western stories. He will eventually start wearing Western clothes, even though he lives in the middle of Brooklyn. It’s inevitable. He becomes the mass of symbols which he puts out. A method of whipping this, for a writer, a method of whipping this is a very simple one: just write in that many lines that you can embrace - never bother about names, identities, things like that. Sign yourself Henry Pillibomb and ...

Now, - Get him resisting eating you.

I used to write Western stories many, many, many years ago and my name was W R. Colt. and you will still find me in the library. And the funny part of it was, is all the time I was writing Western stories, I was really interested in yachting. Never had anything much to do with the West and as a matter of fact tried not to close terminals with it because of my early boyhood misadventures with mustangs, which I do not consider very romantic. They are very bad transportation, but they work if you hit them hard enough in the head with a leaded quirt, [laughter] I mean, the SPCA and I have never seen eye to eye on the subject of horses which will buck you off and tromp on you.

Now, - Get you resisting eating him.

When I was six, by the way (I remembered this the other day when I was talking about this down at the Congress but I didn’t tell it) I went, “Oh God, I had an argument with the SPCA when I was six.” I had managed to bring to curb, by running him into a brick wall, a twelve hundred pound Kentucky saddler that somebody had foisted off as a riding horse. And I couldn’t stop him. And he was going places and he wasn’t bright enough to climb the wall or do anything imaginative like that, so he merely ran into it. And of course, he fell down, so I sat down on him and - waiting for him to more or less come to and shake himself out of it. And this lady came up and, lo and behold, it was the SPCA, because this happened within a half a block of the capital of Helena, Montana and they had quarters right in that vicinity in those days. And she started to sound off about cruelty to horses. And I don’t know where she got off bawling out a six-year-old boy who had just almost lost to a twelve hundred pound horse! But we had quite an argument which almost put me in police court, which was to the effect - I said, rather profanely, that she ought to engage herself in forming a society for the prevention of cruelty to children by horses [laughter] and that she belonged to the wrong gang.

Throw him away. - And, - Get two other people in front of you, each one resisting the eatingness of the other one.

She didn’t appreciate this. She went and told some of my relatives. And they, of course, told me off. She was a very influential person. I think her husband was the Treasurer of the State of Montana or something, you know? I mean - influential - had money. (Had the State’s money anyway.)

Okay Throw the away.

Now, where it comes to any of your stuck flows, what happens? What happens on the management of a horse? You just manage enough horses and you lose a few times and you’ve got a continuous flow of commands going to this horse and going to this horse and you just go down to Virginia sometime and find out what happened to some of those fine old families. You go in and knock on the door and they say, “Ne-ee-ei-ghh!”

Now, - Let’s get you inhibiting symbols.

So here you have a problem - you have a problem in symbols. The horse has a fixed idea. He doesn’t want to do what you want to do. That’s his one fixed idea, so you fix a lot of ideas into him that he does want to do it and you fix them in in various ways: with sugar, with leaded quirts, with spurs, with petting. It’s all done and nearly every rider does it with all those, unless of course he’s smart enough to simply be the horse. Because that’s where he’ll wind up anyhow.

You enforcing symbols. You desiring symbols.

So the problem is, however, if you’re unwilling to be a horse and insist on using a horse, then you of course will become the horse against your wishes, on an inversion, which makes you a compulsive symbol. You know, you’re compelled to be a symbol. .That individual who can fluidly be something and then be something else is a very dangerous fellow indeed - he’s not fighting - that’s not fair! He’s happy though.

You being curious about symbols.

So anyway, as a writer, I used to solve this rather uniformly. I wrote stories in rotation. I would write a Western story and then a sea story and then I’d write a detective story and then I’d write a flying story and then I would write an article for somebody or other and then I would write something for one of the superslicks which, by the way, paid me much less than the cheapest pulp.

Okay - Let’s get somebody else in front of you and get this person inhibiting symbols.

Yes, I wrote in one time to the American Mercury and asked them why didn’t they bring their rates up to what they were - а pulp paper - because they were published on pulp. And shortly afterwards, after I’d gotten busy on this and made jokes out of it and talked in front of the American Fiction Guild on the subject of the pulps and kept describing articles in the Mercury and so on, why, they began to frown on this sort of thing and my name became non persona grata with them. So I had to sell them under two other names, [laughter] Now, as long as one was willing to do that, that was fine. That was just beautiful.

Get this person enforcing symbols.

But then one day, why, you up and you write yourself something and you’re silly enough to use your own name on it and you get fixed with an identity of having done something. So there you are. And actually, anybody’s career, whether as a writer or as a Homo sapiens or a streetcar conductor or any other darn thing, winds up the same way: he starts out playing a game of streetcar conductor, then he knows he doesn’t want to be the streetcar conductor, he resists being the streetcar conductor and then he becomes the streetcar conductor - a symbol. So you only become a symbol by resisting something.

Get this person desiring symbols.

Being something is quite something else than being a symbol. You understand that? You can be a man, you can fejohn Jones. Well, if you can be John Jones, then you want to be free to un-be John Jones. And the freedom of beingness should be equaled, in every case, by the freedom of un-beingness. And if you can parallel your freedoms so that you have the freedom to be and the freedom to un-be, as well as the freedom not to be, why, of course you exteriorize beautifully and you’re very happy and all things work out wonderfully. And also, all the problems of auditing are solved for the auditor before he gets there.

And, - This person being curious about symbols.

But when the auditor gets there, if he takes what we’ve been talking about this morning and uses this, why, he’ll find out that he finds processing very simple. Because, obviously, the fellow who is sitting there in front of him - preclear - is being Jones, a body, Earth, Galaxy 61,1954. And there he is.

Okay - Let’s throw that away. - And, - Get two other people in front of you, one being inhibitive of the other’s symbols.

Well, the fellow isn’t happy or he wouldn’t be there. Well, what’s he unhappy about? Well, he must be unhappy about being a symbol. Well, let’s take the biggest symbol that he is and just have him be it. And then un-be it. And then be it and then un-be it, on some sort of a gradient scale, which will eventually rescue to the individual his freedom “to be or not to be, no longer a question.”

One inhibiting the other’s symbols.

And that, in essence, is your highest echelon of processing. You can develop any God’s quantity of techniques out of that. The only thing else you’d need to know about that would be a little bit more about the theory of communication. Because communication, cause and effect and duplication all are tied in very tightly. But we’ve covered enough for one morning. It’s not a very big subject. I mean, the subject of communication is idiotically simple. That’s the trouble with it. It’s so simple that everybody misses it.

One enforcing symbols on the other.

Well, it’s like this business of symbols. Now you use that definition for a symbol and you’ll win. It isn’t whether or not that definition is good in the field of English or in the field of medicine or in the field of writing - we’re not interested in whether or not this these fixed ideas in it. Because this mass of energy with its fixed ideas in it was bigger than the preclear and so could victimize him and make him sick. Well, we had the means of eradicating it, one way Or the other, with greater or lesser success. And so, as we could knock out that mass called a symbol, we could make our individual relatively well as

One desiring symbols from the other.

Now, do your techniques sort of fit on this gradient scale of what we’ve been going into? Well, all right. We have then, in all the processing we’re doing, the problem of identification and differentiation, as we always have had, but we can sum that up now in terms of communication. We can sum it up in numerous ways. But the simplest statement that we can make of any of this is the right to be and the right to un-be. And if a person has fought being something for a long time, then he is it compulsively. He has no more determinism about it. But if he simply merely became it - you know, he just decided he’d become that and then he decided he’d un-become it - nothing is simpler.

One being curious about the other’s symbols.

No thetan ever snapped into a body unless he laid his hand on it in anger. You just don’t walk up to a body and put a beam on him and snap in. You don’t even walk up to a body and put a beam on it and have it be hurt badly and snap in. You have to walk up to the body with the intention of anger in order to snap into one suddenly and inexplicably.

Okay - Throw it away.

You have to have conceived that bodies are evil and, therefore, something to be resisted, in order to be trapped in one.

(Somebody knocked over an ash-tray). Make that ashtray crash. - Make the ashtray crash again. - Make the ashtray crash. - Now, make the ashtray crash and protect everybody from the noise.

You have to conceive that theta traps are very bad in order to get trapped in the theta trap. It’s almost impossible for a thetan to get trapped. But there is the one modus operandi of his getting trapped: being afraid of getting trapped, of course. And he postulates that he’s afraid of getting trapped in order to set an example so other thetans will be afraid of getting trapped - and they will get trapped. So he does too.

Okay - Let you waste symbols.

Fellows go down to the Gold Coast and the Ivory Coast and the Slave Coast of Africa and spread Christianity in order to buy slaves. Boy, they got to be the most psalm-singing, praying people you ever heard of. And Christianity, at the time they were using it, was no more than a tool - an effort to get some slaves trapped - you know, make the tribes docile enough so they wouldn’t fight against being bought. And they wound up as devout Christians - the people who were doing this. Fascinating, isn’t it?

What’s a symbol? A word is a symbol.

So that, to be caught in a trap, you must have set the trap yourself. So in any case - as you go along and run any case, you want to know what’s wrong with the case, you could be very self-righteously accusative of the case and say, “When did you do it?”

Get somebody else wasting symbols.

Fellow says, “Everybody is mean to me.”

Somebody wasting somebody else’s symbols.

“When were you mean to everybody?” Unfortunately, this individual’s recall is not adequate to tell you this because it goes over too many millennia, that’s all.

Get you wasting somebody else’s symbols.

Problem of processing get a little simpler to you, right there?

And, - Somebody else wasting your symbols.

All right. Now, let’s just look at what else we were doing there this morning. This condensed scale of energy, of Lookingness - and when you go into energy, you go down from Knowingness into the rest of the band. And that band is Knowingness, Lookingness, Emotingness, Effortingness, Thinkingness.

Throw it away.

You know where it goes there?

All right - Get you saving symbols.

Female voice: Symbols.

Get somebody else saving symbols.

That’s right. Thinkingness. Thinking condenses and becomes a symbol. A. symbol is condensed thinking. You know where it goes then?

Now, - Let’s get somebody else saving somebody else’s symbols.

It goes into Eating, it enters the Applause Scale at that point and that drops down to Eating. And you know what condensed eating is?

Now, - Get somebody else saving your symbols.

Female voice: Sex?

And, - You saving somebody else’s symbols.

Sex. So you see what a terrific band of understanding we’re looking at here in terms of human experience, it’s a big band. Actually, condensed eating is sex. But you go on up there, you go to the Applause Scale and then you get up into Symbolisms and then you get up into Thinkingness and then you get up into Effort-Effort is pretty high.

Okay - Now, - Let’s get you accepting symbols.

But you get this thing repeating, over and over and over, and when it’s repeated and repeated and repeated, why - as it goes downscale - why, it evidently becomes MEST. We cannot justify that in just one-two-three, you know? I mean we can’t say absolutely this is the case. It just happens to be the existing theory. The rest of this is not existing theory. The rest of this just happens to be a lot closer to fact than “the acceleration of gravity is 32.2 feet per second.”

Let’s get somebody else accepting symbols.

When we get down to Sex - you know, Eatingness and then Sex and, above that, Symbols and, above that. Thinking and Effort and so on - when we’re dealing with these things, well, we’re dealing with a fact that is better and more useful than 32.2 feet per second.

Now, - Let’s get two people out there and get one of them accepting symbols from the other one.

The definition of a symbol is actually a little more valuable to you than any of the definitions of physics. Because it was in desperation of chasing symbols that Man located physics.

Get accepting symbols from the other one for somebody else - now.

Well, do you feel better Or worse through that little run this morning?

Throw them away.

Audience: Better.

And,- Get somebody else in front of you and get you accepting symbols from him.

Feel a little bit better. Well, fine.

Get him accepting symbols from you.

Now let’s just take two seconds here and do the rest of it.

Throw it away.

Okay. Be a body.

Let’s get you desiring symbols.

Be a girl’s body.

Somebody else desiring symbols.

Be a boy’s body.

Get other people desiring symbols from other people.

Be an old man’s body.

Get you desiring symbols from somebody else.

An old woman’s body.

Somebody else desiring symbols from you.

A young girl’s body.

Get you being curious about symbols.

A young boy’s body.

Somebody else being curious about symbols.

Be an Eskimo’s body.

Somebody being curious about somebody else’s symbols.

Be a cat’s body.

Somebody curious about your symbols.

Be a horse’s body.

You’re being curious about somebody else’s symbols.

Be a dog’s body.

Get you wasting thinking.

Be a cat’s body.

Somebody else wasting thinking.

Be a stone.

Somebody else wasting somebody else’s thinking.

Be a body.

Somebody wasting your thinking.

Be a stone.

You’re wasting somebody else’s thinking.

Be a body.

Now, - Let’s get for sure now.

Be a book.

You wasting thinking.

Be a body.

Now, - Let’s get you saving thinking.

Be a book.

Somebody else saving thinking.

Be a body.

Somebody else saving somebody else’s thinking.

Be a book.

Somebody saving your thinking.

Be a body.

You’re saving somebody else’s thinking.

Be the letter “alpha.”

Get you accepting thinking.

Be a body.

Somebody else accepting thinking.

Be freedom from want.

Somebody else accepting somebody else’s thinking.

Be a body.

Somebody accepting your thinking.

Be a murderer.

And, - You accepting somebody else’s thinking.

Bea victim.

And, - You desiring thinking.

Be a murderer.

Somebody else desiring thinking.

Be a victim.

Somebody else desiring somebody else’s thinking.

Be a murderer.

Somebody else desiring somebody else to think.

Bea victim.

And, - Somebody desiring your thinking.

Be a murderer.

And, - Somebody desiring you to think.

Be a policeman.

And, - You desiring somebody else’s thinking.

Be a victim.

And, - You desiring somebody else to think.

Be a doctor.

You being curious about thinking.

Be a murderer.

Somebody else being curious about thinking.

Be a policeman.

Somebody being curious about somebody else’s thinking.

Be a hospital.

Somebody being curious about your thinking.

Be a stone.

And, - You being curious about somebody else’s thinking.

Be a hospital.

Okay - Let’s get you wasting effort.

Be a stone.

And, - Somebody else wasting effort.

Be a hospital.

Somebody wasting somebody else’s effort. Somebody wasting your effort.

Be a stone.

You wasting somebody else’s effort.

Be a hospital.

And, - You saving effort.

Be a stone.

Somebody else saving effort.

Be a hospital.

And, - Somebody else saving somebody else’s effort.

Be a stone.

And, - Somebody saving your effort.

Bea victim.

And, - You saving somebody else’s effort.

Be a murderer.

And, - You wasting emotion. Let’s really waste some emotion.

Be an electric chair.

Somebody else wasting emotion.

Have the emotions of an electric chair.

Somebody else wasting emotion.

Be a victim.

And, – You wasting looking.

Be a murderer.

And, – Somebody else wasting looking.

Be a burglar.

And, – You wasting knowing.

Be a sidewalk.

And, – somebody else wasting knowing.

Be the sky.

Okay – Let’s grab the two back anchor points of the room.

Be a wood.

Okay – You got it there?

Be a sky.

Which is the most effective – running a direct concept or wasting and so forth. – Come on, which is it?

Be a wood.

(Inaudible audience reply)

Be a sky.

Concept is more effective than wasting it on a –

Have the emotion of a sky.

Audience person: They do different things?

Be a wood.

They both do different things. What did it do to ya? Something. Well, all right. Come on, which do you find the most effective? Now let’s make up your mind.

Have the emotion of a wood.

(Audience response but not audible)

Be a murderer.

Well, that’s a nice refined narrow use of it. That you feel better when you wasted them. Well, that you’ll find that to be the case. That’s why I ran you on a concept first. But I evidently didn’t make my point too well. Do you feel better now?

Have the emotion of a murderer.

Audience voices – „yes“.

Be a victim.

Did you feel better when you finished running those concepts?

Have the somatic of a victim.

Audience: – „yes“.

Have the emotion of a victim.

You felt better. It’s pretty hard to make it unworkable.

Have the viewpoint of a victim.

But the living crux of the matter is, is most of your preclears that come up won’t be able to get even a concept of something except in a symbolical form until they’ve wasted it. Wasting is… wasting better is the case and running the concept has a tendency to bog him you’ll find by experience. Don’t evaluate a technique by how deeply it flux your preclear out since he’ll just eventually just run out of havingness, you know. He’ll just run out of havingness and then we won’t know quite what we’re doing one way or the other. But wasting, saving, and so forth is better.

Have the knowingness of a victim.

All right. What did you get on symbols? Did you find out anything about yourself?

Be the symbols of a victim.

Woman in audience answers: „I did it. I found out I’ve been doing it all my life.“

Be the applause of a victim

LRH: Doing what?

Be a police officer.

Woman: „The brackets you were running. I suddenly discovered – (inaudible couple words) – I’ve been doing, resisting this and resisting that, you know, pushing – and I found out people have been doing it to me all my life and I hadn’t noticed.“

Be the police force.

LRH: That’s right, that’s right.

Have the viewpoint of the victim.

Well, I tell you it’s a remarkable thing but people talk a lot about, „well, if other people didn’t mess me up, and so forth, why, I’d get along all right“. The truth of the matter is, they’re really not very dangerous to each other. But…They’re really not – as people they’re dangerous to each other, but you’re not people. You get what I mean? It’s a little abstruse maybe but you get what I mean?

Have the viewpoint of the murderer.

Voice from audience: „No“

Be a duck.

It’s a little abstruse. I’m not insulting your intelligence. I mean… it’s just that there is a point there. If our purpose is to preserve a bunch of bodies and if we’re sort of here on a mission of putting them all on ice, well, yeah, yeah, people can be very harmful to people. See that? But if we’re here for the business of livingness which is not necessarily the business of preserving a body at all. Let me assure you, it’s something very dramatic in throwing one away with great elan. Why, we find out that people are very far from dangerous to people but are necessary to complete livingness, and so we get pulled between these two things. Life’s insistence upon survival, preserve, and repair and patch up and the static, theta, a thetan desire to live and an individual is caught between these two, these two points.

Have the emotion of a duck.

Of course he’s gotten lots of points but the main thing it is, is GEs sure like to live and golly, he sure has to preserve this body. Well now, when they start resisting, they get worried about preserving and that is about the only big major trap there is. It’s resistance – resistance – if you can get somebody to resist something, why you’ll just fix him all up. There is no truer truism than – that which you resist, you become.

Have the motion of a duck.

All right now, what’s a symbol?

Be a duck hunter.

(Audience replies but most not audible-the following are answers LRH honed in on.)

Have the emotion of the duck hunter.

Audience: A form of an idea?

Have the viewpoint of a duck hunter.

LRH: That’s very close.

Have the lookingness of a duck hunter.

Audience: Something that represents something else?

Have the knowingness of the duck hunter.

LRH: That’s very close.

Be a duck.

Audience: Something you deify?

Have the emotion of the duck.

LRH: Yeah. – That’s an ideal, that’s not a symbol. That’s all right, it’s one of it’s variable meanings.

Have the knowingness of the duck.

Well look, we have a lot of divergent ideas on what a symbol is. It happens that for our purposes in Scientology this thing called a symbol can be given a finite definition which will clarify a great deal of the work which we are doing. It’s a very precise definition – very, very, very precise.

Have the lookingness of the duck.

That is: A symbol is an idea which is fixed in energy which is mobile. Which is mobile. Mob-i-le (pronouncing with long i) in English.

Have the effort of the duck.

(Someone in audience speaks – inaudible on tape – but LRH answers.) Oh, the difference between a symbol and a postulate. Ah yes – we’ll get to that in a minute.

Be the duck hunter.

A symbol is a postulate which has already been fixed. A postulate is something which an individual makes. When he has made a postulate he thereafter may fix it in a mass and give it mobility. Now let’s… Yes…

Be the gun.

Woman in audience speaks: Would a symbol be a way of describing automaticity while processing?

Be the pellets.

LRH: Yes, yes – that’s where we’re going. You’re a very, very bright girl this morning. Did the processing do it or a night’s sleep?

Be the pellets in the duck.

Audience woman: I was in apathy all night and now I’m coming up again.

Be the duck.

LRH: Why were you in apathy?

Have the emotion of the duck.

Woman: Idon’t know (laughing). Don’t blame the auditor – she’s a very good auditor.

Be the duck hunter.

LRH: I would never have thought of it, unless you mentioned it. Who’s the auditor? (Jokingly) Let’s chastise her (laughing).

Have the eatingness of the duck hunter.

All right now, let’s take a look at this thing called a symbol and let’s look at that definition. And now let’s take another definition – let’s take the definition of work in physics. We all know what work is – don’t we? But in physics, work is a very finite definition. Now, when you say work in the science of physics, you mean what pounds of energy – you mean the distance mass gravity factor. You’re talking about something terrifically finite. You understand that?

Be the eatingness of the duck.

So, let’s understand right here, the difference between a, you might say, a type of definition which amounts to a law and a definition out of a dictionary on a word. You see, they can vary slightly. Now, if we take this thing called symbol – and we give it the definition we have just given it – and if we use that definition, we are thereafter able to understand and codify a great deal of livingness and see what is taking place in this livingness. It broadens somewhat the definition of symbol.

The eatingness of the duck hunter.

A postulate is something that you can give or take, or pull, or hand out, or do almost anything with. But when you make a postulate into a symbol, you have surrounded the symbol with mass, energy of one kind or another, and you have granted it mobility. You have fixed it in energy and granted it a mobility. It’s a neat trick – isn’t it?

The eatingness of the duck.

Now let’s take a symbol – the letter, A, the article „a“ in the English language and you see, that the moment we put it into the airwaves, we have given it some mass and handed it some mobility. Well, this makes it very difficult to locate. The theta, according to the prelogics, creates space and time and energy in which to locate things. It is very happy when it is fixing things accurately in space and your preclear will get as well as he can fix things accurately in time and in space and he’s very happy about that, you see.

Be the duck eating.

Now, let’s take this thing he does with this thing we call a symbol. Aha, boy, hah! A wonderful thing – we wrap it up in energy and then we give it mobility and after that it’s lost but it’s still there, so it compounds into invisible barriers and into the most confounding and incomprehensible of puzzles. Take the letter „A“ in the English language. Let’s garb it in printer’s ink, put it in a book, and then the book moves out of the library and on to laps and back on to shelves and back on to laps, and here it goes, and it’s got this letter „a“, this article „a“ and it’s a symbol, and it just keeps on moving and you never keep track of it afterwards.

Be a fish being eaten by the duck.

The only thing which can pierce sixteen inch armor plate is a symbol. A bullet is not, accurately speaking, a symbol. All a bullet is, is some mass. Now, it can be mass with meaning. It could be a silver bullet, but just a bullet is just a mass. You could set it up and say, now this is a symbol of war and discuss it and give meaning to it. As long you use it actively and expend it, create it and expend it and locate it and fix it, it’s not a symbol. It’s just mass. See that? It’s a piece of energy.

Be the fish.

But now let’s take the letters „a“ and put it in printers ink. All right now, let’s take another symbol, we’ll call it police. It’s a word isn’t it? That’s all it is, a word. All right, we take this word and we garb it in energy, we give it an ideal, we make it mobile and we get it lost and then we don’t know where it is, and the next thing you know, it’s after us. You see that about police?

Swim. Be the motion of the fish.

You don’t for a moment… now, let’s take, let’s take somebody who’s present here. This person has been trained in judo. He is really an expert in judo. He is very good with a Colt pistol, extremely good with a Colt pistol. His alertness is good and his reaction time is much better than normal. All right! Will you please tell me why this person should be afraid of a police officer? A police officer is seldom a good shot, is poorly, if at all, trained in judo and has reaction time which is mostly fat. And yet if a police officer walked in the door and said, come down to the jail with me and lose two days, this fellow would probably go along with him.

Be the emotion of the fish.

Why? Why? It’s nonsensical. Well, it’s because the individual here has a symbol called police. Well now let’s suppose this individual didn’t have a symbol called police and didn’t know the meaning of police, and had no further significance to police and some character in a uniform walked in the door and flourished a gun on him – hah, he’d just bury the guy that walked in at the door, that’s all. You see that?

Life would be awfully simple, wouldn’t it, if we didn’t have a symbol. It would be simple, direct and without a long time lag because the only real trouble with police is, if he killed this fellow, then some more police would come tomorrow, he thinks, according to the symbol. Actually they might not, they might say, we better not arrest that fellow.

Be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk.

You see whither we are going with this thing called symbol. It’s an embrasive idea and it gets fixed in mass and because it’s mass and a thetan is often hungry for energy, he will pick up one of these things and because he objects to their confounded mobility, he will try to hold one still and after that, having resisted it, he will become it.

Be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk.

A body could be said to be a symbol. It’s mobile, it’s an idea, it’s fixed in mass, and we find, strangely enough, that a thetan who believes he’s a body has already adopted a great number of ethics, ideals, and otherwise, and fixations and arbitraries, and when we start to process him, we exteriorize him and he says, „I’m not a body.“ Hah! And what do you know, you shed at that moment an enormous number of the arbitraries which have been holding him into a persistence in life and denying him livingness. He hasn’t any action or anything else as long as this takes place. He’s fluidity.

Now be the body.

So, the effort of the individual to fix and unfix ideas in matter, in energy, shows up immediately and intimately on the business of the symbol. Right!

Now be the room.

So, these dam things float around and people try to nail them down. A bibliophile is actually trying to nail down a bunch of symbols. He thinks they’re valuable and desirable. He didn’t start that way. That which a person resists, he will eventually find very valuable and very necessary. He wants it, he knows he wants it.

Now be the motion of the body.

Symbols – It’s a fantastic thing if an entity shows up, or something like that, if you’re exteriorized someplace and you all of a sudden see this character. By the way, I don’t know that a thetan is the only livingness – I just happen to know that you’re a thetan, you see. But, I also don’t know if there’s such a thing as an evil demon that exceeds the value and power of a thetan and as a matter of fact, I know quite the contrary. Those things which show up in that form succumb with such speed that they appear to be more symbols than anything else.

Now be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk.

All right… Yes (to someone in audience)

Now be the corner.

Woman asks: „Would you say a symbol was an enforced idea directed at man?“

Now be the motion of the body walking down to the corner.

LRH: Nope, nope – you’ve already limited it It might be an invited idea. It might be a very pleasant idea. It might be a hidden idea. Don’t add intention to the symbol. Intention is entirely separate from this definition. There’s symbols and then can add all sorts of intentions to all kinds of symbols.

Okay. Be a thousand feet up.

Let’s take the symbol called – freedom. Let’s print it up on a poster, that puts it in mass and then the poster can appear almost any place. And then somebody comes along, some politician, and starts screaming freedom. Well, what’s this politician want to do? He wants to do some slavery. So, what’s his intention with regard to the symbol? The symbol is a weak and will-less thing which is a tool in the hands of anyone and depends for it’s existence, as do all things except the static itself, on agreement. And when you have grasped this principle entirely and completely, you will understand – not only what an engram is, what an aberration is, and what your preclear is frantic about.

Give me some places where you’re not.

A thetan fixes and unfixes ideas in energy. When he builds something, he fixes it in energy. Rather simple, isn’t it? When he takes something down, he unfixes an idea out of energy. Now he’s got all these floating ideas in energy. They’re mobile – they go all around. He can’t locate them, they’re here today, and gone tomorrow. Will-o-the-wisp. It’s a Fabian warfare he fights. So he gets a passion for having everything nailed down and this passion sticks him on the time track – fixes him in energy – masses such as engrams – gives him automaticities – makes him do all the damnedest foolest things you can think of.

A place where somebody else isn’t.

A symbol has a greater liability than it has a value. But it has a great value. If we continued to talk or converse directly as a fluid flow of ideas, our beingness would at once be very perceivable but by avoiding, by hiding, we can put our ideas into symbols and then transmit them, and the symbols so transmitted then do not disclose what we may wish to hold back as our basic intention. And so we get everybody looking through the symbol to find the meaning behind it, and this is a constant dramatization on the part of a thetan.

Be yourself.

He looks through the symbol to find what’s behind it. In such words, to him, are invisible barriers. They’re barriers because they’re made out of mass. They actually have mass. You can cut some out of a book sometime and weigh them if you want to. Spoken words actually have mass. You can put up a kinecotometer and talk at its gas flame and you will see immediately that something is vibrating that gas flame. Something which is not just wind but a vibration is activating the particles of air and so we have a fluid flow of ideas which are yet floating along in an energy mass.

Give me some more places where you’re not.

Now we start to process an engram out of somebody and we find out that we’re running one of the most complex symbols you ever looked at. It’s got, lord knows how many perceptics in it, and it’s got all kinds of things. Wonderful gimmick – an engram. Now you start to process this engram today and you think you’ll finish it off tomorrow but it’s gone and then it recurs six months from now. In other words, it has mobility.

Okay. Now give me several things that you can lose.

When you are pursuing exclusively the course of searching for and eradicating the symbol you are just dramatizing whole track because a thetan has really never done anything else in terms of worry, or anxiety, or upset, and so forth. As long as he can get in there and shoot, he’s all right. As long as he can get in there and build a house and tear it down, he’s all right. As long as he can put up a great big beautiful mock up that’s just pretty or blow one up, he’s all right. As long as he can engage in a game which has an actual finite football and chase that football up and down the field and knock people flat and do all sorts of things, he’s all right.

Several things that you can afford to lose.

But the second he begins this endless task, this endless chase of the symbol that the findingness of the hidden meaningness behind thee, he’s a lost dog because the symbol is lost, and so the thetan who tries to locate them himself, gets lost And the lost feeling which an individual has is the pursuit of the symbol, not the pursuit of a great big oak tree. Not the pursuit of this and not the pursuit of finite things, solid things, and not even the pursuit of thought.

Now check over some things you have not lost.

Thought itself is not necessarily a flock of symbols. Now, you understand that? Thought is postulates. Now a thetan in his ideal state can make a postulate and make it stick and make it act and take it up and throw it out. Now he can, in his ideal state, make a symbol and tear one up. He can explode one that comes in to him, he can blow it, he can release it, he can change his mind.

Now some things which you own.

But once he has become so engrossed in this search for the meaning behind symbols that he has accumulated, lord knows how many, in packed masses, when he is no longer able to face up to them, when he believes that symbols are more powerful than he – he the creator of symbols, you see, is now being bludgeoned by the symbols – that’s an engram in restimulation – the creator of engrams, you might say, suddenly finds himself being hit by engrams. He believes that he, himself, must be of a lower order of symbol, so therefore he must have mass, so therefore he can’t make postulates, so therefore he can’t undo postulates, so therefore when he makes up his mind wrongly, it stays made up wrongly. Why? Well, because he can’t undo this.

Now some things which you know absolutely with certainty that you do not own.

And so, out of fixing and unfixing ideas and the floating and mobile character of symbols, we actually get the mechanical, the mechanical side of sanity and aberration. We also get the mechanical side of exteriorization. The deeper an individual gets into symbols, the harder he is to exteriorize because he believes he is a symbol, he thinks he has mass. So, he thinks he has mass, why he holds the mass he thinks he is, in close to him, and it doubles terminals on him, it matched terminals on him. And he starts to get out of the body and he can’t even pull space between two terminal adequately and so, he having mass, can’t stay out of the body. The other thing is, is when he leaves a large mass he has a feeling of degradation. So he doesn’t think he’s anything, so he goes back in his head again.

Bethem.

Now, when you have a good command of what a symbol is, and the chasing of symbols this way, and when you get an understanding of what a thetan is, and that he is a static, he is a static which can place itself or perceive from himself at any point over any set of particles, at will and instantaneously, why we see that we are trying to remove a preclear up the scale from the point of being a mass, or a symbol, or an answer, up toward a point where he is creative and where he can make postulates, and so on. The second he can do this, he can impose space on terminals and he can exteriorize very easily. He has no difficulty in retaining his identity but he has his identity all mixed up with symbols.

Be them one right after the other.

Now, let’s take this thing called a „name“. An awful lot of preclears are in terrible shape simply because of their name. You take the fellow’s name and you move it around as a symbol and moving postulates and all of a sudden the case begins to free up. Silly name. There was a case, a notable case that had been audited by practically every auditor in the… in greater New York – and was audited by a member of the first unit and this case’s name added up to water. And all this case ever did for an auditor was blow grief charge and got no better. This case was being the symbol – being water – and would just dramatize this, and continue to dramatize this, and continue to dramatize it until all of a sudden why the auditor would say, „Well, we blew that big beautiful grief charge and so the case would be better“, but the case was no better. So this became an enormous mystery.

Okay. Find the two back points of the room.

So a thetan becomes something and sells himself on the idea he is IT, merely because he is so exhausted in this combat with symbols, freedoms, ethics, ideals, evils. These things become symbols and he avoids them one way or the other and then he doesn’t know what to avoid because they’re mobile and he never knows where they’ll turn up or anything else. His identity is something that is quite treacherous. Identity is a very treacherous thing. It turns up in police stations. Most of the boys having trouble exteriorizing, by the way, have a record a light year long. That’s right, they have a record a light year long. That doesn’t mean they’re criminal on earth or in this lifetime but they’ve had their days. Put them on an E-meter and you keep knockin’ it off the pin. They’re wanted in this Galaxy and that Galaxy – that sounds like a space opera but it happens to be very true.

Now sit there for a moment and look and don’t think.

Now… now, they’re dodging. They’re dodging the symbol called „Law and Order“. Well, can’t they create law and order? Well, they sure can. Well, what are they dodging law and order for? That’s because they know they have an identity. But do they?

Now look through whatever you’re looking at.

An identity is forced upon one until he believes he’ll desire it. He’ll begin to resist an identity until he is an identity. The one thing, I can tell you, in common, every thetan has in common, is a terrible background of resistance to bodies. Oh but…(Garble) the last thing in the world a thetan would be, would be a body. So here you are. That’s resistance to a symbol in essence because that symbol is an identity and as an identity it fixes the individual instead of him fixing it. Now we have a problem with any symbol. Is the individual fixing the symbol or is the symbol fixing him. And the way you keep symbols from fixing the individual that are pinning him down is very easy. You just mock it up, and move it around, until he realizes he’s moving it, it’s not moving him.

Okay. What you got?

Let him find it, in other words, it’s an end of cycle processing to mock up symbols. Here, he’s been looking for a symbol. All right, have him mock up a symbol called freedom. Whole populaces have gone to their death, whole civilizations have been destroyed simply by people looking for freedom. The greatest slaveries ever established on earth were established in the name of freedom. Why? Because everybody is trying to close terminals and locate it and find it, and so forth, and they were trying to find freedom by avoiding slavery. So they closed terminals with slavery and there they were. Freedom was the opposite to slavery so they had to fight slavery in order to have freedom and that made slaves out of them.

Okay. Feel better?

This is the most elementary of problems. It is not even difficult but it lies in this exact field: A thetan conceives that he has mass if he conceives that he is a symbol. If he is an identity why then he feels he has mass so he becomes to that degree, hard to exteriorize. There are several ways to solve this. He believes his entire dependency… his entire beingness depends on his having a name. If that’s what his entire beingness depends upon, why good heavens, of course, then he’s going to be nailed down. How else could he be nailed down but by resisting a symbol – a name. He didn’t want a name at first, that’s why he thinks he has to have one. And we get this – what you resist you become. An individual resists having an identity and eventually becomes an identity.

Female voice: Yeah. Hungry . . .

Well then, this is the problem in exteriorization, it’s that intimate. Anybody who’s difficult to exteriorize is simply… be three feet in back of your head, be three feet in back of your head – is a symbol. He’s not a being without mass and there are many symbols which are greater than he. One of the ways of doing it is simply, let’s take a look over the numbers of symbols which are greater than himself in terms of an E-meter. Just ask him that on the eight dynamics. What symbols, what words are bigger than you are. You’ll get the most interesting responses on the needle. Then you simply have him mock these up and move them through space from point to point, back and forth, up, down and around until he’s moving them, they’re not moving him. He says, „Well I’m not… I’m bigger than that.“ Next thing you know, you say, „Be three feet in back of your head“, and he is.

You’re hungry?

Your problem with exteriorization then, departs from an understanding of this: That a thetan in a creative state does not himself have mass – and an understanding of how he gets mass. He gets mass by becoming himself, a symbol. Of course, the last thing in the world he is, is a symbol.

Female voice: Starving.

It’s like a fellow who makes drums all his life and eventually sits down in the corner curled up like a drum and expects somebody to beat on him. This fellow hates drums, so he becomes a drum. See that? Now why is this? Why does a fellow become what he resists? Well he just sweeps down on it in this fashion. He starts fighting it with energy and he gets more loses than he gets wins and so he gets to be it.

Put some people in your stomach.

Now, let’s get that much more simply. Let’s get the problem of a stuck flow. The fellow talks in one direction too long, he’ll get a stuck flow. Now, the way you unstick this flow is to reverse it or to turn it and get some mock ups and get it bunched out of line, get it squared around and knock it off. Now when he starts resisting something, very arduously starts resisting something, you know – crush, crush, crunch, crunch – he gets a stuck flow. Similarly, when he starts giving postulates towards something. In other words, commands are orders in one direction and it never gives any back – he gets on a stuck flow. He eventually gets to the point where he can’t force anything along that line and the line itself will collapse and that is the end product of a stuck flow. It collapses into a mass.

Female voice: Something I might just do.

All communication lines eventually wind up to be one terminal, both ends. Anytime they stick too hard on a flow, why they’ll eventually do that.

Well, go ahead! [laughing]

TBD

Now look, cannibalism, for the duration of this class at least, doesn’t go! [laughter]

So, your thetan stood outside the body for a long time giving it orders. telling it to destroy itself or something. Eventually, eventually why the very mass of material that she put out in one direction became a stuck flow and we got a collapsed terminal proposition. Now, what’s a collapsed terminal? That’s something that should have two ends, which now has both ends in coincidence. Both ends in the same place. Now, that’s a collapsed terminal. You’re going to hear this phrase an awful lot – collapsed terminal. Better get used to it. You’ll notice many preclears have collapsed terminals.

How do you feel? Feel a little better?

Well, right next door to a collapsed terminal is becoming the thing you’re collapsed with. You’re right there, so you must be it. That’s the immediate assumption. Now thought is very agile but when it gets fixed in the terms of a symbol, it becomes much less agile. It loses its creativeness. Let’s take the plight of the writer, who writes, writes, writes, writes, writes western stories. He will eventually start wearing western clothes, even though he lives in the middle of Brooklyn. It’s inevitable. He becomes the mass of symbols which he puts out.

Female voice: Yeah.

A method of whipping this, for a writer, a method of whipping this is a very simple one. Just write in that many lines that you can embrace. Never bother about names, identities, things like that, assigning yourself Henry Pillbaum and… I used to write western stories many, many years ago and my name was W. R. Colt. You will still find me in the library. And the funny part of it was, was all the time I was writing western stories, I was really interested in yachting. I never had anything much to do with the west and, and as a matter of fact, tried not to close terminals with it because of my early boyhood misadventures with mustangs, which I do not consider very romantic.

Who exteriorized on that one?

They are very bad transportation but they work if you hit them hard enough in the head with a leaded quirt. The SPCA and I have never seen eye to eye (laughing) on the subject of horses which would buck you off and tromp on you. I always… I asked… when I was six, by the way, I remembered this the other day when I was talking about this to Congress. I had an argument with the SPCA when I was six. I had managed to bring to curb by running him into a brick wall, a 1200 pound Kentucky saddler and somebody had placed it off as a riding horse and I couldn’t stop him. And, he was going places and he wasn’t bright enough to climb the wall or do anything imaginative like that so he merely ran into it. Of course he fell down so I sat on him waiting for him to more or less come to and shake himself out of it. This lady came up, and lo and behold, it was the SPCA because this happened within half a block of the capitol of Helena, Montana and they had quarters right in that vicinity in those days. And she started to sound off about cruelty to horses and I don’t know where she got off bawling out a six year old boy who had just almost lost to a 1200 pound horse but we had quite an argument which almost put me in police court. Which was to the effect, I said rather profanely, that she ought to engage herself in forming a society for the prevention of cruelty to children by horses (laughing). And that she belonged to the wrong gang. She didn’t appreciate this. She went and told some of my relatives and they of course told me off. She was a very influential person. I think her husband was the Treasurer of the state of Montana, or something you know, I mean something influential. They had money, had the state’s money anyway.

Anybody exteriorize on that for the first time? A little patty-cake way of exteriorization. Did you?

Now when it come to any of your stuck flows, what happens, what happens on the management of a horse. You just manage enough horses and you lose a few times and you got a continuous flow of commands going to this horse, and going to this horse, and just go down to Virginia some time and find out what happened to some of those fine old families. You go in and knock on the door and they say, – whihihin.

Male voice: I don’t know.

Here you have a, here you have a problem, you have a problem and symbols. The horse is a fixed idea. He doesn’t want to do what you want to do. It’s one fixed idea, so you fix a lot of ideas into him that he does want to do it. You fix them in, in various ways. With sugar, with leaded quirts, with spurs, with petting. It’s all done and nearly every rider does it with all those – unless of course he’s smart enough to simply be the horse because that’s where he’ll wind up anyhow. So, the problem is however, if you’re unwilling to be a horse and insist on using a horse, then you will of course, become the horse against your wishes on an inversion. Which makes you a compulsive symbol. You know, you’re compelled to be a symbol.

He doesn’t know. We have to solve, on some of these cases, degradation because of exteriorization before they’ll exteriorize. Because most of the people here who aren’t exteriorized right now have, at one time or the other, and then they felt very degraded for having done so and that’s what you have to solve with the case.

That individual who can fluidly BE something and then BE something else, is a very dangerous fellow indeed. He’s not fighting. That’s not fair. He’s happy though. So anyway, as a writer I used to solve this rather uniformly. I wrote stories in rotation. I would write a western story and then a sea story, and then I’d write a detective story, and then I’d write a flying story, and then I would write an article for somebody or other, and then I would write for one of those super slicks, which by the way, paid me much less than the cheapest pulp. And yes, I wrote in one time to the American Mercury, and asked them why didn’t they bring their rates up to what they were, a pulp paper because they were published on pulp. And shortly afterwards, after I’d gotten busy on this and made jokes out of it and talked in front of the American Fiction Guild on the subject of the pulps and kept describing the articles in the Mercury, and so on, why they began to frown on this sort of thing and my name became non persona grata with them. So, I had to sell them under two other names. Now as long as one was willing to do that, that was fine – that was just beautiful. But then one day why you up and you write yourself something and you’re silly enough to use your own name on it and you get fixed with an identity of having done something. So there you are. And actually anybody’s career, whether as a writer or as a Homo sapiens, or a street car conductor, or any other darn thing, winds up the same way. He starts out playing a game of street car conductor and then he knows he doesn’t want to be this street car conductor, he resists being this street car conductor and then he becomes the street car conductor – a symbol. So you only become a symbol by resisting something.

Well, that’s beside the point. SOP 8-C is still very much in order just as it rolls.

Being something is quite something else than being a symbol. You understand that? You can Be a man, you can BE John Jones but if you can BE John Jones, then you want to be free to unBE John Jones. And the freedom of beingness should be equaled, in every case, by the freedom of unbeingness. And if you can parallel your freedoms so that you have the freedom to BE and the freedom to unBe as well as the freedom of not to Be, why of course you exteriorize beautifully and you’re very happy and all things work out wonderfully and also all the problems of auditing are solved for the auditor before he gets there.

[woman coughing]

When the auditor gets there, if he takes what we’ve been talking about this morning, and uses this, why he’ll find out that he finds processing very simple because obviously the fellow is sitting there in front of him, the preclear, is being John Jones, a body. Earth – Galaxy 61 – 1954. There he is. The fellow isn’t happy or he wouldn’t be there. Well what’s he unhappy about? Well he must be unhappy about being a symbol. Well let’s take the biggest symbol that he is and just have him BE it, and then unBE it, and then BE it and then unBE it on some sort of a gradient scale which will eventually rescue, to the individual, his freedom to BE or not to BE, no longer a question. And that, in essence, is your highest echelon of processing. You can develop any God’s quantity of techniques out of that.

[to woman] Pearl, be your lungs.

TBD

Be your body.

The only thing adults should need to know about that would be a little bit more about the theory of communication because communication, cause and effect, and duplication are all tied in very tightly. We covered enough of them all morning. It’s not a very big subject. I mean, the subject of communication is idiotically simple. The trouble with it is, it’s so simple everybody misses it.

Be your lungs.

It’s like this business of symbols – you use that definition for a symbol and you will win. It isn’t whether or not that definition is good in the field of English or in the field of medicine or in the field of writing. We’re not interested in whether or not this is true or… All we’re interested in is, does it serve our purposes in Scientology and to that limited degree, it serves our purposes admirably. We, during the whole first book, spent all of our time chasing the symbol known as an engram. Which is to say, an idea or a series of ideas known as perceptions fixed in a mass which was mobile and we were trying to solve this mass of energy which had these fixed ideas in it because this mass of energy, with its fixed ideas in it, was bigger than the preclear and so could victimize him and make him sick. Well, we had means of eradicating it one way or the other with greater or lesser success. And so as we could knock out that mass called a symbol we could make our individual relatively well as a Homo sapiens. We were still processing the bigger symbol. See, we were processing minor symbols to alleviate a bigger symbol – a body.

Be your body.

Now the technique’s sort of thin on those gradient scale of what we’re going in to. Well all right, we have then, in all the processing we’re doing, the problem of identification and differentiation, as we always have had. We can sum that up now in terms of communication, we can sum it up in numerous ways, but the simplest statement that we can make of any of this is, the right to BE and the right to unBE and if a person has fought being something for a long time then he is it compulsively. He has no more determinism about it. But if he simply merely became it, you know, he just decided he’d become that and then he decided he doesn’t become it. Nothing is ever simpler.

Be somebody else’s lungs, [man coughing] [laughter]

No thetan ever snapped into a body unless he laid his hand on it in anger. You just don’t walk up to a body and put a beam on him and snap in. You don’t even walk up to a body and put a beam on it and have it be hurt badly and snap in. You have to walk up to the body with the intention of anger in order to snap into one suddenly and unexplicably. You have to have conceived that bodies are evil and therefore something to be resisted in order to be trapped in one. You have to conceive that theta traps are very bad in order to get trapped in a theta trap. It’s almost impossible for a thetan to get trapped but there is the one modus operandi of his getting trapped – being afraid of getting trapped, of course, and he postulates that he’s afraid of getting trapped in order to set an example so other thetans will be afraid of getting trapped. And they will get trapped, so he does too.

Pearl, is that what you did? Did you do that?

Fellows go down to the Gold Coast and the Ivory Coast and the slavery coast of Africa and spread Christianity in order to buy slaves. Boy, they’ve got to be the most psalm singin’ prayin’ people you ever heard of. And Christianity, at the time they were using it, was no more than a tool, an effort to get some slaves trapped. You know, make the tribes docile enough so they wouldn’t fight against being bought. And they wound up as devout Christians – the people who were doing this. Fascinating, isn’t it?

Male voice: No, I’d been holding that off.

So, that to be caught in a trap, you must have set the trap yourself. So in any case, as you go along and run any case, you want to know what’s wrong with the case, you could be, very self righteously, accusative of the case and say, „When did you do it?“ „Because everybody’s mean to me“, „When were you mean to everybody?“ Unfortunately, this individual’s recall is not adequate to tell you this because it goes over too many millennia.

Oh, you had.

So, does processing get a little simpler to you, right there? All right, now let’s just look at what else we were doing there this morning. This condensed scale of energy – it’s this… it’s… of lookingness and… when you go into energy you go down from knowingness into the rest of the band and that band is knowingness, lookingness, emotingness, effortness, effortingness, thinkingness – (to audience) You know where it goes there?

[to woman] Feel a little bit better?

(Answer from audience which is inaudible)

Female voice: Tm all right.

That’s right, thinkingness. Thinking condenses and becomes a symbol. A symbol is condensed thinking. You know where it goes then?

Ah, yes. Well, you be your lungs again.

(Audience answer not audible)

[various students coughing]

Not that directly. It goes into eating. It enters the applause scale at that point and that drops down to eating – and you know what condensed eating is? Sex. So you see what a terrific band of understanding we’re looking at here in terms of human experiences. It’s a big band. Actually condensed eating is sex.

All right, both you and Pearl and you, be somebody else’s lungs now.

But you go on up there, you go into the applause scale, then you get up into symbolisms, and then you get up into thinkingness, and then you get up into effort. Effort is pretty high. But you get this thing repeating over and over and over and when it’s repeated and repeated and repeated, why as it goes down the scale, why it evidently becomes mest. We cannot justify that in just one, two, three, you know. I mean, we can’t say absolutely this is the case. It just happens to be an existing theory.

Be somebody else’s lungs.

The rest of this is not existing theory. The rest of this happens to be a lot closer to fact than the acceleration of gravity is 32.2 feet per second. When we get down to sex, you know, eatingness and then sex and above that symbols and above that thinking and effort, and so on, when we’re dealing with these things, we’re dealing with a fact that is better and more useful than 32.2 feet per second. The definition of a symbol is actually a little more valuable to you than any of the definitions of physics because it was in desperation of chasing symbols that man located physics.

Now be somebody else’s lungs.

Okay! Now you remember the other day I told you we were shifting a little bit. I said we had an extra period. I didn’t say we were changing anything. I said the schedule that was drawn up in Camden, and so forth, had a fifth period in it. I was trying to mark out your fifth period for you. That’s because we occasionally shift the first period into the fifth period as far as the auditing assignments are concerned. Now isn’t that mean? A lot of days you get the best possible time of the day to be audited and a lot of times the lousiest.

And be those lungs with ТВ.

So, I notice here however that we have not run over too badly so as to wipe out the –. I was not even going to mention that. Because I have the little task of training you up and doing this and that and so forth. I’d like to spend more time with you than is actually allowed by the auditing program as it is and that’s why that fifth period is hitting in that extra recede(?) in the first period when necessary. That’s so as the people, the poor auditors in the first period, won’t miss the experience. Nothing to do with the preclear.

Now add lung fever.

Well, do you feel better or worse for that little run this morning?

Now wheeze and pant and can’t get air, as the lungs.

Audience: Better. A little bit better.

Now get a gleeful feeling of actually lousing them up. Just get what you’re doing to this person with your ТВ and so forth. Just fix them up but good.

Well, fine. Now let’s just take two seconds here and do the rest of it.

Now be the person.

Okay –

Now be the lungs.

Be a body – be a girl’s body – be a boy’s body – be an old man’s body – an old woman’s body – a young girl’s body – a young boy’s body – be an Eskimo’s body – be a cat’s body – be a horse’s body – be a dog’s body – be a cat’s body – be a stone – be a body – be a stone – be a body – be a book – be a body – be a book – be a body – be a book – be a body – be the letter Alpha – be a body – be freedom from want – be a body – be a murderer – be a victim – be a murderer – be a victim – be a murderer – be a victim – be a murderer – be a policeman – be a victim – be a doctor – be a murderer – be a policeman – be a hospital – be a stone – be a hospital – be a stone – be a hospital – be a stone – be a hospital – be a stone – be a hospital – be a stone – be a victim – be a murderer – be an electric chair – have the emotions of an electric chair – be a victim – be a murderer – be a burglar – be a sidewalk – be the sky – be a wood – be a sky – be a wood – be a sky – have the emotion of a sky – be a wood – have the emotion of a wood – be a murderer – have the emotion of a murderer – be a victim – have the somatic of a victim – have the emotion of a victim – have the viewpoint of a victim – have the knowingness of a victim – be the symbols of a victim – be the applause of a victim – be a police officer – be the police force – have the viewpoint of a victim – have the viewpoint of a murderer – be a duck – have the emotion of a duck – have the motion of a duck – be a duck hunter – have the emotion of the duck hunter – have the viewpoint of a duck hunter – have the lookingness of a duck hunter – Have the knowingness of the duck hunter – be a duck – have the emotion of a duck – have the knowingness of a duck – have the lookingness of the duck – have the effort of the duck – be the duck hunter – be the gun – be the bullets, the pellets – be the pellets in the duck – be the duck – have the emotion of the duck – be the duck hunter – have the eatingness of the duck hunter – be the eatingness of the duck – be the eatingness of the duck hunter – the eatingness of the duck – be the duck eating – be a fish being eaten by the duck – be the fish – swim – be the motion of the fish – be the emotion of the fish – be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk – be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk – now, be the body – now be the room – now be the motion of the body – now be the motion of the body out on the sidewalk – now be the corner – now be the motion of the body walking down to the corner –

Now be your lungs.

Okay –

Now be the effort of your lungs. Okay? You still holding back a cough? You still afraid you’re going to cough?

Be a 1000 feet up – give me some places where you’re not – a place where somebody else isn’t – be yourself – give me some more places where you’re not –

Female voice: Well, not just now.

Okay –

All right. Okay.

Now give me several things that you can lose – several things that you can afford to lose – now check over some things you have not lost – now some things which you own – now some things which you know with absolute certainty that you do not own – be them – be them – one right after the other –

That better?

Okay –

Well, I hope you’re feeling better, but the practical truth of the matter is, you characters, I didn’t process you this morning to make you feel better. I’ve tried to give you the opening gun on randomity and automaticity, beingness and resistance.

Find the two back points of the room. Now sit there for a moment and look and don’t think – now look through whatever you’re looking at –

All right.

Okay – what you got – okay

Feel better? You’re hungry? Put some people in your stomach.

(Laughing from a remark made by someone in audience) Love ya. Cannibalism, for the duration of this class at least, doesn’t know.

How do you feel? Feel a little better? Alan, did you exteriorize on that the first time? A little patty-cake way of exteriorizing. Did you?

Alan says: I don’t know.

He doesn’t know. We have to solve on some of these cases, degradation because of exteriorization before that exteriorized gets apart. Most of the people here who aren’t exteriorized right now had, at one time or another, felt very degraded for having done so and that’s what you have to solve the case. Well, that’s beside the point. SOP 8-C is still very much in order. This has it (garbled)

(Someone in a coughing fit) Cheryl, be your lungs, be your body, be your lungs, be your body, be somebody else’s lungs, (she’s trying to stifle a cough or something and hysteria of laughter breaks out in the class) Well, is that what you did?… (garbled) Is that what you did? Do you have a bag or something?

Be somebody else’s lungs now, be somebody else’s lungs – be those lungs with TB (Tuberculosis) – now add lung fever – now breathe and pant in mid air as the lungs – now get a gleeful feeling of actually lousing them up – Forget what you do with this person with your TB and so forth, just fix him up but good. – Now be the person – now be the lungs – now be your lungs – now be the effort of your lungs. Okay? Are you still holding back a cough? Are you still afraid to… (garbled) All right. Okay. That better?.

I hope you feel better. The practical truth of the matter is, you characters, I didn’t process you this morning to make you feel better. I tried to give you the opening gun on randomity and automaticity of beingness and resistance. You know, you’ve been resisting things all day?