& Voice from Audience: How you going to know? There's a lot of ...

& Well, that's true, that's true.

& Voice from Audience: Yeah. Well, I ... [unintelligible] now. I realize that it's all ... [unintelligible]

PC: Nope.

I'd like to talk to you now about the track map. There will be an issue of this map, many issues of this map, which will be printed and given to students of the Summary Course.

LRH: Which one of you is alive? Which one of you is alive?

There should be one of these maps for each preclear because all this map contains is the standard incidents on the track with side notations for each incident which can be filled in for any one preclear. And it has an accompanying chart which is an entity chart so that you can keep track of your preclear.

PC: Center.

Now, this track map has notations on it to follow an electropsychometer so that it shows what you're doing and what you're getting charge on and so on. Now, you saw we had one preclear tonight who was a bit stuck on one incident. That incident was an explosion, an overt act and a jam of one sort or other, and that was very sticky, so we weren't getting the rest of the track.

LRH: Center is alive?

Now, it's very interesting that somebody who has always considered hilself very stuck and so forth on the track - Maurie gets the whole track without any difficulty, you see? In other words, his theta being is actually operate pretty efficiently in spite of occlusions and all the rest of this stuff.

PC: Yep.

Now, this track map is used, then, in this fashion: that you make notations for each type of incident when you discover it on an E-Meter. And then you have a notation on it whether or not you audited it out, or how nearly you audited it out, and what you audited it out of. See, that's quite important. It's important to keep, at this time, a check on your preclear. A careful auditor in the past - considering his preclear as just one entity, one being - had no great difficulty in keeping track (we knew that we'd run out the basic part of the bank, or something of the sort), but this is a different situation. The situation is far more advanced and its goal is much higher than any we have ever tried to attain. And you'd better keep track of what the track is like: how many entities are still there,how many of the joiners you've gotten out, and keep it straight so that you know what's been audited and what hasn't.

LRH: Good. Just realized it?

Now, part of this - and a separate section of the track map - has to do with the between-lives sequence, modern. Modern: the last 35,000 years. Some of us walked in rather curiously, I'm sure, and volunteered or something of the sort, and were held in pawn, and some sort of a sequence began to take place. This was in the effort to civilize and fix up earth; somebody else's effort, not yours.

PC: No.

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

LRH: You knew that all the time?

.. we were working on this a little bit the other evening. By the way, when operating this machine, you should have your controls fairly well back when it's first turned on and so on. You put the cans in the preclear's hands and then turn on your machine - to keep the needle from hitting the pin too badly. I think new machines will probably have cartridges in them that will blow a fuse, and so you'd have the difficulty of blowing a fuse, which will train you rather quickly. MEST force. And that's of course, ...

PC: Apparently not.

LRH: What's the matter?

[Booklet 17 begins here with "FIRST DEMONSTRATION", "AUD: Does any of your theta bodies have any MEST bodies anywhere else?"]

What did you think of?

LRH: Mm-hm. You knew that.

PC: MEST force, or something like that.

All right. Do you - does any of your theta bodies have another MEST body anyplace else but here?

LRH: MEST force. Is MEST force bad?

PC: Yep.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Mm-hm. Which one has a MEST body somewhere else?

LRH: Not so good, is it?

PC: Left outside.

PC: Nope.

LRH: The left outside has a body someplace else, huh? Is that right? Yeah.

LRH: All right. Look, we want to know particularly about the between-lives sequence now.

And what's the body like?

PC: Okay.

PC: About three inches taller.

LRH: Okay.

LRH: About three inches taller? Mm-hm. What's it do normally?

LRH: And immediately we want the between-lives sequence, and looks like this preclear we have here ... And the manifestation of the needle is flicking from the theta-universe manifestation - which is a wide swing-to the between-lives manifestation. Now, there is a very, very nice theta-universe manifestation and he's got the theta-universe manifestation mixed up with the between-lives manifestation.

PC: I don't know. Doctor?

PC: Thought I get is it isn't far to go.

LRH: Doctor? Used to be a doctor?

LRH: Huh?

PC: No, is.

LRH: Not far to go, huh?

LRH: It is a doctor? Oh, you got another body on earth?

PC: That's right.

PC: No.

LRH: Actually, between lives you could very easily take off for the theta universe, but you're sort of choked up on it. Now, tell me. When you die - normally when you die on Earth, where do you go?

LRH: Got another body on earth, or you're splitting a body with somebody? Well, that's okay.

PC: Mars.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. There's a nice bop. Okay, let's put it down on the chart here. Here's Earth and here is death.

LRH: The left side splitting a body with somebody?

Okay. Here is Mars up here, so you go flipping up here. It take you very long to get there?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Nope.

LRH: Yeah. Okay.

LRH: Nope.

How about a body elsewhere? Does the left side have a body somewhere else?

PC: Scared as hell, incidentally.

PC: No.

LRH: By the way, were you told to go there?

LRH: No. How about the right side? Does it have a body somewhere else?

PC: Yep.

PC: Yep.

LRH: You're supposed to go there. Are you supposed to remember that you're supposed to go there?

LRH: Mm-hm. The right side have a body somewhere else, huh? And where's that body?

PC: Nope.

PC: Well, that body is a long ways off.

LRH: But you're supposed to forget that you're supposed to rem-.

LRH: A long way off.

PC: Supposed to remember I'm supposed to forget.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: That's interesting, isn't it?

LRH: Where would you think it was?

PC: Yeah. We hit that one under religion: "Remember, you must always remember." Kind of surprised when I found out what it was I was supposed to remember.

PC: The first one was Mars.

LRH: Uh-huh. Well, you're supposed to remember to forget, naturally ...

LRH: The first flash is Mars?

PC: Yep.

PC: Yeah, that was what it was ...

LRH: ... I mean, that's simple.

LRH: What a coincidence, Mars again! My, that's coincidental. It's been a coincidence now for an awful lot of preclears, except one had to break the chain - only I think he's a traitor to the cause.

Female voice: Yes, of course.

PC: When I said "long ways off" it was Mars.

LRH: Effective.

LRH: Mars, huh?

Okay. Now, when you got there in the old days, when you got up there ...

PC: Yeah.

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

LRH: Well, you don't mind it being Mars, do you?

LRH: Does one of you still make this trip?

PC: No.

PC: Nope.

LRH: Do you have a body there?

LRH: Find a body there? Well, let's just talk about the good old days, then, okay?

PC: Yeah.

PC: All right.

LRH: What's it do?

LRH: They're still there, by the way.

PC: First thing I get is "run things."

PC: Yep.

LRH: It runs things, huh?

LRH: But they're not in very good shape right now, are they?

PC: Runs things, ruler, driver - not driver, no ...

PC: No.

LRH: Was it a ruler once?

LRH: Okay. Now, this is Mars. Some pcs will tell you it's Venus, and maybe there is a show going on in Venus which does more or less the same thing, who knows? Is there a show going on in Venus, too?

PC: Yep.

PC: It's a different one.

LRH: Good old days, huh?

LRH: Oh, that's a different show. Do they send people down here to Earth?

PC: No, now.

PC: The thing I get is "Yep, not me.

LRH: Now?

LRH: Not you, huh? But you know about this?

PC: That's what I get.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. The machine doesn't.

LRH: Well, that's fine. What do they do? What are you ...

PC: Okay.

PC: Sort of a competition.

LRH: Tell me, is this body alive?

LRH: Oh, there's a competition between the two. What are the Venus people? What are they trying to do? Huh?

PC: No.

PC: Take over.

LRH: Oh, the body's dead?

LRH: They're trying to take over Earth. Well, what about the Mars people, what are they trying to do?

PC: No.

PC: Take over.

LRH: Body isn't dead ...

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: No.

PC: They're trying to keep it running, I guess.

LRH: ... isn't alive, yeah. Where do you imagine it could be?

LRH: Is Venus the new attack?

PC: Between times.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Just sort of between times, huh? Mm-hm. There we are. Now we're getting the between-lives hunt. Okay.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I'll be damned.

PC: This time I get a little fear riding in here.

LRH: Now, let's find out some more about this body. Is it lying on a shelf?

LRH: Oh, you got a little fear. That's the new attack, huh?

PC: No.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is it lying in a box?

LRH: Has anybody got one of your bodies on Venus?

PC: No.

PC: Nope.

LRH: Is it lying in a pit?

LRH: Nobody has got a body of yours on Venus? Okay.

PC: No.

Anybody get a "yes" on that?

LRH: Is it sitting someplace?

Female voice: Yes.

PC: Standing.

Male voice: Mm-hm.

LRH: It's standing.

Female voice: I did.

PC: Yeah, that's what I get.

LRH: You did.

LRH: Oh, you poor devil. It's standing, huh? Where is it standing?

Female voice: I think he was getting some of my fear. I think.

PC: Standing in a hall.

LRH: Which one is the most modern civilization? Which is the newest?

LRH: Standing in a hall.

PC: Newest is Venus.

PC: Waiting for a turn.

LRH: Newest is Venus?

LRH: Waiting for its turn, to what?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Report.

LRH: And Venus has - have electronics down well and ...

LRH: Does it think you're dead?

PC: Yep.

PC: Nope.

LRH: ... other things?

LRH: The heck it doesn't. (audience laughter) When did it think you were dead?

PC: Yep.

PC: Earlier.

LRH: They operate in space? System space?

LRH: Thought you were dead earlier. During an operation? Did you ever die in an operation? Did ...

PC: Yes.

PC: No.

LRH: Mm-hm. Who's the referee in this fight? Is there any?

LRH: ...ever think you died in an operation?

PC: Feeling I get there is "I am."

PC: No, I haven't had any major one, except tonsillectomy maybe ...

LRH: You are. You the referee of this fight7

LRH: Tonsillectomy?

PC: Yes.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Does that mean you personally, or Earth?

LRH: How about a tonsillectomy? Did it think you died in a tonsillectomy?

PC: First thought I got on that was "me.

PC: Could be. Getting it strong on that.

LRH: You?

LRH: It just thinks you're dead?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Who are you?

LRH: Okay. Sort of missing. Well, what's it doing right now then?

PC: Okay. Next thought is "Earth."

PC: Waiting.

LRH: Well, is it Earth ...

LRH: Waiting. How long has it been waiting there?

PC: Uh-uh.

PC: A thousand years, roughly.

LRH: ... or is it you personally?

LRH: It's been in the area thousands of years?

PC: I think it's me personally.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. Good. Tell them to hold off for a while, will you? (audience laughter)

LRH: It hasn't been waiting in line thousands of years?

PC: All right. That's what I've been doing.

PC: No.

LRH: You're not kidding. All right. Now, the old cycle went this way: fellow went back up here and what did he do? Sure, you tell them.

LRH: Has it been waiting in line thousands of years?

PC: Get ...

PC: No.

LRH: Hm?

LRH: No. All right. Has it been up there thousands of years?

PC: Feel like it's "get reborn."

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Get reborn. Did his body animate or anything happen up there?

LRH: Is it in good repair now?

PC: Woke up.

PC: No.

LRH: He woke up. And then what did he do?

LRH: Could you monitor that body from right where you are right now?

PC: This is where we begin to get questioned. I sometimes invalidate my own data on this, because ...

Could you make it do something?

LRH: Is this an area of confusion?

PC: Thought I get - first thought I got on that was no, but I think I could.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Oh? Could you do something to it? Make it do something?

LRH: Oh. The questioning is very confusing. Okay.

PC: No.

Here, then, is his body awakes. And now we've got to report. And here you got ...

LRH: Why? Why can't you make it do something?

PC: Seem kind of confused about what's going on.

PC: First thought I get on this is "I don't want to."

LRH: Confused on questions. Well, what did they do? What did they do?

LRH: Oh, go on. Give it a nudge. Give it a nudge.

PC: They asked questions, and seems to me that they should know the answers.

PC: All right.

LRH: Yeah. What's the purpose in asking the questions?

LRH: Give it a good nudge - solid nudge.

PC: To confuse me.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Get you confused?

LRH: Hit it harder.

PC: Yep.

PC: All right.

LRH: That's right. Go to the head of the class. Okay. That's one of the first mechanisms of hypnotism, by the way: get the subject confused.

LRH: Now, make it turn around and slug the next guy in line.

Boy, you're really getting drops on this, aren't you? All right. What's the next thing you do?

PC: Okay.

PC: Back to Earth.

LRH: All right, let's slug somebody else now; let's start a riot. Anything wrong with starting a riot? See, you realize it will probably get killed, don't you? Would it be bad if it got killed?

LRH: Back to Earth.

PC: Yeah, seems to be.

PC: Die again there.

LRH: Would it be bad if it got killed?

LRH: Hm?

PC: No.

PC: Die again there and come back to Earth.

LRH: It's getting a little hunt here now; that's just fine. Would you be free if it got killed?

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what's the procedure? Now, there's a little bit more to it, I'm sure ...

PC: Maybe, yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. You're not too worried about it, though? They ever tell it to tell you what to do?

LRH: ... than just you simply coming back to Earth.

PC: No.

PC: Yeah, I get on this - come back to Earth - select a body, take over.

LRH: They ever tell it what to do?

[Professional course booklet 17 begins with the session given in the Theta Body Demo lecture and continues it with this session starting here as if they were all part of the same session.]

PC: Yeah!

LRH: Do you get instructions, specific instructions on anything?

LRH: Mm-hm. That's not as bad, huh?

PC: Yeah, what to do.

PC: No.

LRH: What to do? Are you stuck someplace in this?

LRH: No? Pretty good, huh?

PC: Yep.

PC: No.

LRH: Where?

LRH: Hm, fine. Look, if you didn't have to report back there, could you go someplace else?

PC: Somewhere in the middle of the instructions.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What do they do in the middle of the instructions?

LRH: Mm-hm. Would you be free?

PC: Thought I get is that they get confused.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: They start to act confused?

LRH: Well, is that bad?

PC: Yep.

PC: No. (yawns)

LRH: Mm-hm. And what's that do to your confusion?

LRH: No. Well, let's take a look at this again. Where's the body now?

PC: Really picks it up.

PC: Here.

LRH: Yeah. And then what do they do?

LRH: Did it just come back? The theta body just come back here?

PC: They say to go.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: They tell you to forget it or anything there?

LRH: Yeah. Where's its body?

PC: Yes.

PC: Here and there.

LRH: Is there any command there to forget your past life that you've just lived?

LRH: Where's its NEST body?

PC: Boy, I get the first-beautiful first line of a prayer coming in strong.

PC: Here.

LRH: Coming in strong. What are you supposed to do? Now, what's the prayer?

LRH: Mm-hm. Its MEST body is here. Is there a MEST body there?

PC: just a sec while I get it. "You shall remember the Lord, thy God, all the days of thy life," and thought this - this - or something or other. Oh, everything will be hunky-dory, and so forth. And this is the same one we ran into, or I ran into, in the middle of what I thought to be Fac One, first time.

PC: No.

LRH: Mm-hm.

LRH: What happened?

PC: It got tangled up with that.

PC: It's gone.

LRH: Mm-hm.

LRH: Was the body gone all the time?

PC: I was kind of startled when I found out what it was I was remembering.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Mm-hm. Does this knock out the past life that you just left?

LRH: Hm. What's it been doing, one of these perpetual stand-in-lines?

PC: No. Makes me forget it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Makes you forget it.

LRH: How long has this been going on?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Thousands of years, maybe.

LRH: Why do you forget it?

LRH: Thousands of years. How long ago did this NEST body die?

PC: Because I'm remembering to forget it.

PC: The number I get on it is thirty thousand.

LRH: Mm-hm. You have to remember to forget it?

LRH: About thirty thousand years ago. Long time ago, huh?

PC: Yep.

LRH: Not a long time ago?

LRH: What else do you have to do about this? Anything else? How about your skills, vocation?

PC: No, thirty thousand years.

PC: You have to relearn all this.

LRH: Oh, that's not a long time ago, that's right. Well, is it glad to be back here? Is he stuck in an incident?

LRH: Oh, you're told you have to relearn everything.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What incident is he stuck in?

LRH: Great. Fine, fine. Now, confused questioning, and told to relearn, and you're told to forget.

PC: What I get is Emanator business.

PC: Seem to have been bothered some in this lifetime, though; I don't like schools.

LRH: Got "none of your business," huh?

LRH: Past life. Yeah, you probably knew all this scenery. After a guy learns arithmetic a hundred times, it gets to be awfully ... You start to rebel and somebody says, "two times two," and you say it's eight, or anything.

PC: I said Emanator business.

Female voice: I came up with five.

LRH: Emanator. He's stuck in the Emanator business?

LRH: Okay.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Three point nine-nine.

LRH: Well, you can audit him out of that, can't you?

LRH: Now, what goes on there? You forget - forget your past lives and so forth?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, tell him to come up to present time.

LRH: Mm-hm. And then what happens?

PC: All right.

PC: The thought I get there is then down to Earth and find a body; it's apparently been selected.

LRH: Can he?

LRH: Mm-hm. How's it selected? You given a street and number or anything like that?

PC: First thought I get on it is no, but I think it can be done.

PC: No. Seem to be tuned in on it.

LRH: Mm-hm. How about getting him to remember something absolutely real?

LRH: Oh? Tuned in on the body.

PC: (pause) All right.

PC: Yeah. The damn feeling I get is just about - scooting in just about like an arrow - floating right in on it.

LRH: Does he find something that's real to him?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Like a homing pigeon, almost.

LRH: Mm-hm. How about something else?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: (pause) No.

PC: Or a guided - guided missile homing in.

LRH: Can he find something else? What was the last real thing he got?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Making an emanator.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. Overt act?

LRH: And there it is, right sex, right everything.

LRH: Mm-hm. Does he feel guilty about it?

PC: Yep.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Yeah. Fine. All tailor-made. At what period in the development of that body is this?

LRH: Some other being now answering than him, huh?

PC: Just before birth.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: That's right. Okay.

LRH: How about letting him answer?

But here goes the body to sleep again, huh? Or is it you are told you're dead?

PC: All right.

PC: No. Sleep - about the only thing. Suspended animation, something like that, but not dead.

LRH: Now, I'm going to address him very directly. You glad to be back here and off the rat race?

LRH: Mm-hm. Okay.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Never die.

LRH: Do you recognize it was a rat race?

LRH: Right. And then you depart, huh?

PC: I get a "yeah" on that.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. How do you feel? Did you know anybody else was here in this body?

LRH: How many - how long are you there, generally?

PC: No.

PC: You mean back there?

LRH: Mm-hm. All right, let's rapidly check: How many others are here in this body?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Twelve.

PC: I guess ten minutes.

LRH: About twelve? Mm-hm. How many of those are supernumerary?

LRH: About ten minutes? Mm-hm.

PC: (sigh)

Female voice: He's busy.

LRH: How many of them could you just get rid of right this minute?

LRH: Not very long, is it?

PC: About four or five.

PC: Damn busy trip.

LRH: Well, shell them out.

LRH: Okay. So, here we go.

PC: Hm.

Is that a specific time before birth? Ten minutes, fifteen hours, twenty hours, a hundred hours, two days? What is it?

LRH: Don't want to?

PC: Ten minutes sounds about right.

PC: Just a sec.

LRH: About ten minutes. That's right.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Yep.

PC: It takes time.

LRH: Okay. Ten minutes. What - what would you say this span is between death and birth again?

LRH: It takes time. All right, go ahead. Kick them out.

PC: Ten minutes.

PC: It's been a favorite one.

LRH: About that. That's right. Sometimes fifteen. Ah!

LRH: All right. What did you get?

PC: I'm in a hurry.

PC: Seven.

LRH: And this is birth; here we go again. That's interesting. Now, is there anything wrong with your telling me about this?

LRH: Mm-hm, okay. What were the others from? Overt acts or something?

PC: Yep.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What's liable to happen?

LRH: Which one was responsible for holding them in?

PC: Not supposed to tell.

PC: What I got is center.

LRH: Who said so?

LRH: Mm-hm. Center wanted to accumulate them?

PC: They.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: They said so.

LRH: The stomach soul wanted to accumulate them?

PC: This is during conditioning.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is this early conditioning?

LRH: Right side wanted to accumulate them?

PC: Yeah.

PC: No.

LRH: Now, how did you get into that rat race in the first place?

LRH: Left side wanted to accumulate them?

PC: It was all part of an experiment which I'm interested in conducting.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what...

LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Well, there's some more of them around. Tell me is there another one here that has a body up there?

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

PC: No.

PC: ... theta universe.

LRH: Don't find another one, huh? How about the right side? Does it have a body anyplace else than here?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: No.

PC: First slide over into MEST universe - this is something we ran about - be about five, six days ago.

LRH: No? Well, I guess we got you. Let's get somebody else.

LRH: Mm-hm.

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording. The demonstration resumes with a different preclear.]

PC: Yep. Slide over into the MEST universe as an experiment, to see what it's like to control things in the MEST universe.

[Booklet 17 says "SECOND DEMONSTRATION" at this point.]

LRH: Mm-hm.

LRH: Okay. You way back on the track?

PC: Not control them, but to - well, to operate - get to know it better if you're in it ...

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm.

LRH: How many million years?

PC: ... than you can from without.

PC: Oh, about fifteen, twenty.

LRH: Mm-hm. You're talking like this is a sales talk from somebody.

LRH: Fifteen, twenty million years?

PC: That's exactly the way I got it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: That is a sales talk. Okay. How did you get into this last thirty-five-thousand year ... How long ago was it by the way, when you met up with these Martians?

LRH: How about longer?

PC: It's thirty thousand, I said that the other night.

PC: Hm, could be.

LRH: About thirty thousand.

LRH: She's way back. Which one of you is way back?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Hmm ...

LRH: All right. How long did you report back? What's the last time you reported back? Any entity or beingness of yourself ? What was the last time you reported?

LRH: Center?

PC: One week ago.

PC: No, about three of me.

LRH: About a week ago. Mm-hm. Was that about a week ago? Day ago? Day ago? Week ago?

LRH: About three of you is way back?

PC: Mm-day ago. Day ago or week ago; it - they both seem to be okay.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Both seem to be okay.

LRH: Notice that emanation, that wide hunt there? That's way back. It got pretty narrow by the time they got to this last show, last thirty-rhousand-year show. Well now, tell me, any one of these theta bodies - does it have a body elsewhere?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm, two.

LRH: Welt, you recall that I sent you up there the other night.

LRH: Has two.

PC: That was a day. But a week ago it also happened.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Oh, it also happened about a week ...

LRH: Which one of them?

PC: Yeah, that was when I was getting audited.

PC: Which one of them what?

LRH: Pretty rough? Okay.

LRH: Which one of them has a body elsewhere?

PC: We've been blowing things.

PC: Two of them have.

LRH: But I mean, to find a live body and go on through the routine.

LRH: Well, which two?

PC: Oh, no, that's a day ago.

PC: Oh! The left inside and the right center, the right of center.

LRH: You did a day ago? Find the body and go through the whole routine?

LRH: just to the right of center?

PC: Yeah. No, I didn't go through the routine. No.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You found a body.

LRH: Okay, where is this left inside body?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Sirius.

LRH: That's right.

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, is it having a good time?

PC: Found one waiting around.

PC: Mm-hm. Always has a good time.

LRH: Okay. Okay. Now, this whole cycle has been going on for a long time, now, hasn't it?

LRH: What do you know!

PC: Yeah.

Anybody got a body of yours in pawn?

LRH: Would you sort of say you must be, thetawise, completely indestructible to take all of this?

PC: No. (laugh)

PC: Yep.

LRH: Hm. That's the trouble with dames; they get exempt on these things a lot of times. (laugh)

LRH: Gee, you mean these aberrations we've got and so forth aren't quite as important as we thought they were.

All right. Well, how about Sirius, is it nice up there?

PC: Nope.

PC: Mm, could be better.

LRH: Neither would be this hypnotism or anything else. Look at how many times it could happen to you.

LRH: Mm-hm. Could be better. What's the planet's (snap) name?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: That's the only one I know about.

LRH: Why, you'd think that'd normally kill a person, to get hit this many times, wouldn't you?

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, guess we're not going to get too much information here on the subject of. Are they all kind of stuck on the track someplace or other this way?

PC: To die again could kill a normal guy.

PC: Mm, those two are pretty well stuck.

LRH: Normal guy. Yep.

LRH: just two are.

Now, here you have then, your life-death, death-life cyclic action. The various other periods that have happened in history similar to this are not too dissimilar from it. It's a pattern: MEST universe gets itself in a rut very easily, so on.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, in the MEST universe various other strange things have happened to people than what I've pointed out on the track between this between-lives cycle. This cycle is really much more important to an individual than many others, but it doesn't ride timelessly. It has the characteristic of putting somebody on a time track, doesn't it?

LRH: Well, can you free them up? Which is the first one that could be brought up to present time?

PC: Yep.

PC: The right of center one.

LRH: What we're calling Fac One is important because it floats somebody off of a time track.

LRH: The right of center one, huh?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now, therefore, Fac One has a timeless characteristic. But this thing has a well-timed characteristic. What happens when you do the same action over and over and over? You took up in the Axioms and you find out that's a static, so each one of these cycles has a tendency to be. Now, do you consider this sort of static?

LRH: What's holding it back?

PC: Yep.

PC: The agreement to come here in the first place.

LRH: Mm-hm. How long you been on Earth? Oh, you already gave me that. You've thought about that.

LRH: Oh. Can you click that?

Now what's this business about Venus?

PC: I've been trying all day.

PC: just another group.

LRH: What's the matter? Is it sorry it came here?

LRH: How did you get caught in this - you didn't tell me the answer to that question. How did you get caught in this rat race?

PC: Mm.

PC: This one?

LRH: Not sorry enough.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: (laugh)

PC: ... thought is I get captured.

LRH: Did it come here because it's got another one here?

LRH: Did you volunteer?

PC: Mm, got a couple of friends there.

PC: Nope.

LRH: Got a couple of friends there?

LRH: Were you captured?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. Couple of your theta lines that are with you right now?

LRH: What else did they say?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Didn't say anything else at all.

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what if those left?

LRH: just captured. Shot down here?

PC: Probably go too.

PC: Knocked down. Okay.

LRH: Well, which one of those won't go?

LRH: Mm-hm. Here we go.

PC: The stomach one.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: The stomach one won't go.

LRH: All right. Now, had you been free just before you were captured?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Why won't it go?

LRH: Hm. Had you been free for a while?

PC: It's happy, I guess.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is it happy?

LRH: Proud of yourself?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Yep.

LRH: Mm-hm. Not unhappy. Hm, one big happy family.

LRH: Mm-hm. Did you "know" just before you were captured?

PC: (laugh) Yeah.

PC: First thing on it is "Yes" and followed by a real big "No. Better not."

LRH: Is that right? Evidently.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I've got a nice somatic right here.

PC: There it goes!

LRH: Oh, that one is putting up a protest.

LRH: There it goes on the machine.

PC: Mm-hm.

Okay - now. Now, who's this that's very interested there in Venus? Somebody spoke up around here.

LRH: Well, is that a man or a woman?

Female voice: I did.

PC: Always women.

LRH: Well, you give her the cans and let's find out what happens around there.

LRH: It's always women?

[to male pc] Okay, thank you very much.

PC: Mm-hm.

& LRH: Now, anybody... What did you do since the last time you run this thing? Did you run anything?

LRH: Mm-hm. Okay, what's the matter with that one?

& PC: I've been doing some running ... [unintelligible]

PC: Doesn't want to be bothered.

& LRH: OK. I'm not embarrassing ... [unintelligible] OK.

LRH: Does it hurt somewhere? Hm?

& PC: Theta bop ... [unintelligible]

PC: Doesn't want to be bothered.

& LRH: ... [unintelligible]

LRH: Doesn't want to be bothered.

& PC: Well, we put them back up the line again.

PC: Hm-mm.

LRH: Okay. Do you have a body on Venus?

LRH: And when you try to bother it, what's it do?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Demonstrates it doesn't want to be bothered by acting up.

LRH: Well, what do you know? You got a body on Venus that's in pawn; that is to say, something holding it?

LRH: By doing what?

PC: Mmm ...

PC: By turning on a somatic.

LRH: Did you try this

LRH: Turning on a somatic? Why don't you move in on it and boot it out of that somatic? Come on, just move in on it and boot it out of that somatic.

PC: ... it's operating, but it's kind of in pawn, too.

PC: (pause) It's gone. The somatic has gone off

LRH: Oh, it's operating.

LRH: The somatic is gone. Bring it all the way up to present time.

PC: Yeah.

PC: (pause) Something is blocking it.

LRH: It's walking around?

LRH: Hm?

PC: Mmm. Mentally functioning, not physically.

PC: Something's blocking it.

LRH: Oh, it's functioning mentally.

LRH: Something blocking it ...

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Do they tell it things to tell you?

LRH: ... from coming up to present time?

PC: No. I just - I'm communicating with it, but it's ...

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

LRH: Can you communicate with it right this minute?

[Booklet 17 omits this brief demo and skips to the next one.]

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: ... the tongue and stuff removed.

LRH: Okay. What's it looking at right this minute? Boy, are you communicating with it! Look at that drop!

LRH: Hac vocal ... Oh, had your tongue torn out.

PC: It's looking at a desk chart, not with graphs, but - how can I describe it? Sort of button lights is about the best thing I can do.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Button-light graph.

LRH: Hm, makes difficult communication in MEST bodies.

PC: Uh-huh. In the functioning of it, it just thinks which light it wants to light to perform certain duties and ...

PC: Yeah, a little difficult.

LRH: Could you push it? When are you supposed to push it? Are you supposed to push it, or supposed to not to?

LRH: Well, does it recognize that there is - does it have a home?

PC: No, whenever I feel it's necessary.

PC: No. It's sticking pretty close to the center ...

LRH: Are you under orders to push it?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Well, I'm jerking like mad, Ron.

PC: ... and follows it around.

LRH: Are you under a - now, just a minute. Are you under a signal basis?

LRH: Doesn't it have a home someplace else?

PC: Yes.

PC: Oh Yeah, of its own, but it hasn't been back in a long time.

LRH: Are you a communication channel?

LRH: Why can't it go back?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Hm, kind of likes it where - being on the right of the center one.

LRH: Are you a comm point?

LRH: Turned a somatic on.

PC: A type - I'm more of a relay point.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Relay point. Relay point between Earth and Venus?

LRH: Doesn't make it very friendly.

PC: In a way, yeah.

PC: No, but if you have one that turns on the somatics, well, I'll leave it pretty much alone.

LRH: In a way. Now, did you ever hear of space station 33?

LRH: Mm-hm. Will leave it alone as long as it turns on ...

PC: No. Fifty-six.

PC: Not after this: I'll get after it.

LRH: Space station 56.

LRH: Okay. How do you feel now?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Good.

LRH: You in space station 56?

LRH: Good?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. You ever in communication with space station 33?

LRH: Good. Okay.

PC: No, nothing to do with it.

[to audience] Somebody else here.

LRH: This machine says that you are.

Male voice: Okay.

PC: Well, I don't like him!

LRH: Okay. This gentleman has very kindly volunteered. Well, how are all "you all" tonight?

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

PC: Fine.

PC: I do things my way.

[Booklet 17 says "THIRD DEMONSTRATION" at this point.]

LRH: That's bad, huh?

LRH: That's good. Let's get right down to the root of this matter. Which center are you running on? Which theta body are you running on?

PC: No, I think it's good to do things my way.

PC: Right center.

LRH: Who is space station 33 commanded by?

LRH: Hm?

PC: A man.

PC: Right center.

LRH: Uh-huh. What's his name?

LRH: You're running on the right center? How about the center center?

PC: Oh, I - blah - I can't say it. Uh ...

PC: Sometimes.

LRH: Well, you got a name.

LRH: How about the right side? Run on the right side?

PC: Numbers there.

PC: (mumble)

LRH: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. Inboard right side? Outboard right side? Outboard right side?

PC: It doesn't mean the same as here.

PC: Inboard right side.

LRH: Doesn't, huh?

LRH: Inboard. Mm-hm. You sort of shift around, don't you?

PC: No.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Did you ever hear of Arohohn?

LRH: Yeah. Any reason you have to? Can't your center be trusted? Can it be trusted?

[Professional Course booklet 17 spells this name Arol Olen.]

PC: Sometimes.

PC: No.

LRH: Sometimes.

LRH: No? Arohohn. Never heard of him, huh?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: No.

LRH: When did it fail last?

LRH: Is he on space station 33?

PC: Which one?

PC: I got a no and a yes and a no on that one.

LRH: Center.

LRH: You're not supposed to tell, are you?

PC: Which center?

PC: No, it's a big secret.

LRH: Right here.

LRH: Big secret.

PC: Oh, the center one.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: That's what I thought: sound asleep.

LRH: What's the matter with Arohohn?

PC: For some time.

PC: He's a jerk.

LRH: Yes. How about waking it up? Move over into it. Be it.

LRH: You don't like him, huh? Well, he's not the fellow on your operating board at 33 - he's in command of 33, isn't he?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah, but ...

LRH: Got it? How does it feel?

LRH: You don't like him, huh?

PC: Pretty good.

PC: They don't know anything. Men don't know how to organize things.

LRH: Any somatic turn on?

LRH: Is he in command of your 56?

PC: One that usually does when I try to shift over into it.

PC: Yes. Men don't know how -

LRH: Oh, well, where does the somatic turn on?

LRH: They don't know how to organize well, do they?

PC: Through the center of the head.

PC: No, they sure don't.

LRH: Through the center of the head.

LRH: Particularly if they're working on Earth.

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Anyplace.

LRH: What part of the center of the head?

LRH: All right.

PC: TOP.

Picking up this story about this Venus contact. What is this Venus contact, now? You've got space station 33 and space station 56. Were there other space stations there?

LRH: Through the top?

PC: Oh, yeah, about two hundred of them altogether, I think.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Two hundred of them.

LRH: That's the somatic that knocked it out? Is this Facsimile One - what we ve been calling Facsimile One - getting a camera turned at you, a band put around your head and bap-bap-bap?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Could be it.

LRH: Which is central?

LRH: So how does the center like the noise whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap? Like this?

PC: Well, one - they've got the system worked out so it goes in odd numbers. One, three, five and then it goes into the twenty-three, twenty-five. There are - I mean, it is set up on relays from the odd numbers and then there's major relay points from ...

PC: Not too well.

LRH: What do they communicate?

LRH: Not too well. Well, are there three points up there on top of your skull or just one?

PC: Instructions.

PC: Well, it's elongated.

LRH: Well, come on. Give me a sample dispatch.

LRH: Mm-hm, like the soft spot in a baby's head?

PC: Oh!

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Well, give me a sample dispatch.

LRH: Oh. Is this a lock on Fac One?

PC: uh ... Well, there's terrific conflict here.

PC: Mm.

LRH: You want me to show you a dispatch you sent about a half an hour ago? Oh, you didn't send one a half an hour ago. You sent one about forty minutes ago.

LRH: Or is this before Fac One? Before? Earlier on the time track? Earlier.

PC: About twenty minutes ago I was to go asleep - I nearly did - while you were talking before.

PC: No.

LRH: Mm-hm. Had to concentrate, didn't you?

LRH: Huh? Yeah. What did you do, get killed when you were a baby? Hit over the head or something? Fall out of your crib? Hit over the head?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Hit over the head.

LRH: How does it feel to run two bodies?

LRH: Hit over the head.

PC: Well, being in such close contact, which I've never done before, it feels very odd. Like ...

PC: Something like ...

LRH: Confusing, is it?

LRH: What hit you over the head? Somebody hit you over the head?

PC: Distressing. I'm not quite used to it yet.

PC: A mace.

LRH: Is this Venusian effort mainly directed at - mainly directed at a conquest of Earth?

LRH: Hm?

PC: Well, it's kind of indirect conquest of Mars.

PC: A mace of some sort.

LRH: Indirect conquest of Mars. What's wrong with Earth?

LRH: As a baby?

PC: Well, it's more or less of a focal maneuvering point. You know, like the Aleutian Islands, I or something like that, I mean ...

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Earth isn't important in this sequence, is it?

LRH: Did you hit a baby over the head with a mace? (audience laughter)

PC: Only as a matter of getting at Mars through the back door or sideways, or something like that.

Did you?

LRH: Hm. Nobody in this whole crew is interested in Earth, are they?

PC: Could have.

PC: Mm-no, not really.

Male voice: I doubt it.

LRH: What's Earth? Boy, are you shaking.

PC: Yeah, I don't think so.

PC: You're telling me! I'm not looking at the dial.

LRH: YOU better not know, had you?

LRH: Okay. Well ... My, am I taking information here that I shouldn't take?

PC: No. Now that doesn't ...

PC: How right you are!

LRH: Mm-hm. This looks awfully between-lives to me all of a sudden.

LRH: Well, believe me, I can take it. Don't ...

That center got a body between lives?

PC: I don't know if I can take any more of this or not, though.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Were you operating directly contrary to orders7

LRH: Is it alive?

PC: Mm-just about as direct as you can get it. (sigh)

PC: No.

LRH: Mm-hm. What if you had a dispatch cleared through your hands right now that said okay?

LRH: Does it know?

PC: Mmm-it just wouldn't come. I mean, that's ...

PC: Can't know.

LRH: It wouldn't huh? All right, we'll continue with this. Earth isn't important, then, to Venus, is it?

LRH: Can't know. How about the right side? Does it have a body between lives? How about the left side, does it have a body between lives?

PC: Not to them - capturing it and using it.

Ahh, the left side, huh? Left side.

LRH: What's the matter with Earth?

PC: Left side.

PC: It doesn't have anything to offer. I mean, they can't do anything.

LRH: What is the viewpoint from that body? Take a look; step into the body and look. (pause)

LRH: Too heavy?

PC: I have a hall of cylinders.

PC: They're stupid.

LRH: Hm?

LRH: Gravity too heavy down here?

PC: Seemingly, plastic cylinders.

PC: Yeah, but I mean, we could overcome that. It's this civilization isn't developed enough to make any use out of it particularly.

LRH: Plastic cylinders, it sees some cylinders?

LRH: Mm-hm. What, is this a prison planet?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Is it standing or sitting or lying? What is it?

LRH: Mm-hm. Is that one of the reasons you shy off of it?

PC: More or less suspended.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Suspended.

LRH: Is one of your general orders not to land on Earth?

PC: Mm-hm, upright.

PC: Unless necessary.

LRH: Suspended upright?

LRH: Unless an emergency.

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: In a cylinder7

LRH: Who signed the general order?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Oh, two people.

LRH: Mm-hm. Are you inside the body looking, or are you outside looking at the cylinder7

LRH: How long has it been outstanding?

PC: Well, I'm in a body looking at others.

PC: The orders?

LRH: Are you in your own body?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Oh, about two thousand years, anyway.

LRH: You in your own body?

LRH: Two thousand, anyway.

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Looking at others. That body alive?

LRH: Two thousand anyway? Is that all?

PC: More or less suspended animation.

PC: Well ...

LRH: See that still needle reaction? Well, that's exactly what that says, and exactly what that means: suspended operation. Go on, kick him to life. Go ahead, move. Move some more. Move enough to knock the cylinder down.

LRH: How about ten thousand?

PC: Hm.

PC: More like six to eight.

LRH: What happens?

LRH: That's longer than you've been around there.

PC: cylinder broke.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. Now what happens? (pause) We'll give it a couple of minutes.

LRH: Is your concentration making you neglect the board?

(pause) What happens now?

PC: Yeah. I'm getting hell ...

PC: Body died.

LRH: Is there a dispatch sitting on that board?

LRH: Hm?

PC: Yeah, I'm getting hell for it, too.

PC: Body died.

LRH: Well, clear it.

LRH: Yeah. Feel bad?

PC: "Drop the cans!" (laugh)

PC: A little bit.

LRH: How long have you been a communications relay point down here?

LRH: Does it feel bad?

PC: Mm-Oh, how long have I been down here?

PC: It, the body?

LRH: How long-how long...

LRH: No, the theta body of it.

PC: I've just been here from...

PC: Hm-trifle; it was sort of attached to it.

LRH: ... have you been a communications relay point?

LRH: Mm-hm. Was it told that the body would be cared for?

PC: About two thousand years.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. You've been going through the Earth line for two thousand yearc?

LRH: How long had that body been there?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Thirty-five thousand, approximately.

LRH: All right. Have you been going through the Earth line two thousand years?

LRH: About thirty-five thousand years. That's right. All right. Were you handled and controlled through that body?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Longer?

LRH: You just realize it?

PC: No, not going through the Earth line but only about two, three thousand years as a communications ...

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You've been a communications point down here for the last generation?

LRH: Is it a good thing the body is there? Was it a good thing the body was there?

PC: Oh, yeah. Longer than that.

PC: No. Good thing it's in the condition it is now.

LRH: Did it happen in this life?

LRH: Good. What do you know? You have a little doubt on that yet? Did that side keep going back to the body all the time?

PC: Mm-hm, yeah.

PC: No. Well, conflict there.

LRH: Yeah. At the beginning of this life?

LRH: Conflict.

PC: Before this life.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Oh, it happened before this life?

LRH: Are we talking to some other theta body now? There is another between-lives body here.

PC: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: How about 1780?

LRH: Which is the next between-lives body?

PC: More like 1860.

PC: Right outboard or something ...

LRH: Been here since 1860.

LRH: Right outboard. Mm-hm. Right outboard. All right, this right-outboard body, where is it? Take a took at it.

PC: Yeah.

All right, what's it look like?

LRH: You're not giving me the hot dope.

PC: It seems like a blank cover.

PC: Trying hard not to.

LRH: Blank?

LRH: Trying hard not to, huh? And making sense too.

PC: Light coming in from the right.

PC: (laugh)

LRH: Light coming in from the right. What is the light coming from, a window?

LRH: Well, you're in very safe hands. Do you think the back of Mars is busted?

PC: Apparently. It seems like another tank, only this one's horizontal.

[Professional Course booklet 17 says "Do you think the Bank of Mars is busted?". Both R&D 10 and an older freezone transcription say "back of Mars", but the tape is poor quality - Ed.]

LRH: This one's a horizontal tank?

PC: No, that's the difficulty.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Well, what about the operation that took place around here recently?

LRH: Well, is there a window there or a port that you look through or something?

PC: Which one?

PC: Right side is - of the tank apparently plastic. It's transparent.

LRH: Oh, I'd say their control of Mars - control of Earth is certainly kind of busted up here a little bit.

LRH: What comes in through there? Anything? Light coming ...

PC: Mm-hm, some slight extent. Amidst ...

PC: Light.

LRH: Well, what about the next step?

LRH: Anything else?

PC: ... the confusion, but the government is still pretty solid.

PC: Vibration.

LRH: On Mars, still pretty solid. What do you get on the board on it?

LRH: Are you inside the body?

PC: A lot of red lights flickering right across the top of the board.

PC: I wasn't.

LRH: What do you see?

LRH: Let's slide in. How's it feel?

PC: Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

PC: Moist, I think.

LRH: You got a viewer there that demonstrates anything on Mars?

LRH: Moist?

Anything going on, on Mars?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: No.

LRH: What's the vibration like? Can you feel it?

LRH: Is there one available? What are you, a communications operator?

PC: Mm-hm, slightly.

PC: Yeah, a relay ...

LRH: Mm-hm. What would happen if this body moved?

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, you know the dispatches that come through there.

PC: Vibration would go off ...

PC: Mm-I'd say that this confusion ...

LRH: Go ahead and move. Find out.

LRH: Lot of activity?

PC: Some clamps on it.

PC: There's about two or three other groups trying to come in, but the main central or governing group, so to speak, has - is still pretty much functioning.

LRH: Some clamps on it?

LRH: They upset lately?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well ...

LRH: What are they upset about, I wonder?

PC: Not exactly clamped down, but held.

PC: Oh, they feel we're getting too close.

LRH: It's held down.

LRH: Who's getting too close?

PC: Little bit.

PC: We are.

LRH: Well, can it struggle against them?

LRH: Venus.

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: Uh ...

LRH: Go ahead, make a little struggle. (pause) What happens when you struggle?

LRH: Venusians.

PC: Vibration gets stronger at first.

PC: No, not Venus.

LRH: Mm-hm. Struggle again. (pause) What's happening?

LRH: Earth?

PC: Trying to move.

PC: Dianetics.

LRH: Good. Try to move it some more.

LRH: Well, it ought to be. All right. Now, let me ...

PC: I got the right foot free.

PC: They don't call it that up there. That was the dispatch - why the hesitation.

LRH: Got the right foot free. Go ahead, move it some more.

LRH: Uh-huh. They don't call it that up there.

PC: (pause) Fluid seems to be going down.

PC: Hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. Move it some more. (pause) Make the grade? Can it get up?

LRH: They didn't have it up there, did they?

Can't get up?

PC: No, they don't have it up there.

PC: Doesn't seem to be able to, no.

LRH: That's right. All right. Now, would you say offhand .. What did you get a surge on?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: (laugh)

PC: Vibrations stop and the fluids drip out.

LRH: Am I going up against a communicator's oath here?

LRH: Mm-hm. Now what's happening?

PC: Yeah. A bridge [breach?] of oath, ethics, and ...

PC: Body is rather - decomposing rather rapidly.

LRH: Mm.

LRH: Hm, is it?

PC: ... anything else ou want to call it.

PC: Seems dead.

LRH: And I'm going right straight up against it.

LRH: Much of a quiver to dying? Glad to die?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: In a way.

LRH: Was this implanted into you in some fashion or other, and that's why you're shaking?

LRH: In a way.

PC: Yeah - I'm kind of made with it - so to speak.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. It's fighting back?

LRH: Not much emotion about it?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Hm. No, it's apathetic.

LRH: When was it installed?

LRH: Apathetic?

PC: When I was first given the communications job.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mm-hm. You been faithful to it?

LRH: Is this theta-body line apathetic?

PC: Yeah.

PC: Great degree.

LRH: Tell me, is there any sex amongst these people?

LRH: Mm-hm. What it says here. All right, bring it back. Now ...

PC: Of a type, but not sex as we know it.

PC: Okay.

LRH: No. Do you breathe air up there?

LRH: ... what's the sensation in that side?

PC: No.

PC: There was a tenseness or - all along the side of the hip.

LRH: Do you eat food?

LRH: Mm-hm. Is the tenseness still there?

PC: Absorb it, is the thought I got, rather than ...

PC: Slight degree.

LRH: So it's an electronic body ...

LRH: Mm-hm. Tell it to come up to present time. It stuck someplace else than in this death?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: No.

LRH: ... with a mind.

LRH: Or is this a heck of an imposition, to knock it off and then have it come back here and tell it to be cheerful? Feel sad about that body being gone?

PC: Mm-hm.

PC: It wouldn't help much.

LRH: Imagine that. What's the temperature in the domes?

LRH: Nope. Tell me something. Did they tell you originally that they'd really take good care of this body?

PC: About 250 to 280.

PC: Oh, yeah.

LRH: 250 to 280 what?

LRH: Has this side been reporting back there between lives?

PC: (laugh) I don't want to tell you! I guess you'd say centigrade. I don't know.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: How does it feel on your skin? Feel about the same as this room feels on your skin? Cooler?

LRH: Boy, this is that awful still needle, that you get on something like that. It - just been doing this for a long time, hasn't it?

PC: Mm ...

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Hotter?

LRH: Would you consider this a rut?

PC: It's about the same, maybe a little warmer but certainly comfortable.

PC: Rather deep.

LRH: Mm-hm. That's more or less correct. What's on the back of the moon?

LRH: Rather deep rut. Do you have to go through this rut anymore? Ask it if it has to go through this rut now.

PC: People. Of a type - living organisms.

LRH: What's the number of the station on the back of the moon?

PC: Thirty-three!

LRH: That's correct. Okay.

And so we conclude this evening's lecture (audience laughter) and I wish to show you there - this is some of the action in which we have been involved and by the way, her answers are all correct. Very good. Very good show. You probably would have been shot tomorrow morning if you'd answered otherwise. (audience laughter)

PC: I'll probably be shot tomorrow morning or dismembered and put together again, anyways.

LRH: Why?

PC: For giving up some of this information.

LRH: Oh, no. No, it cleared through control central.

PC: Okay. I'll take your word for it, tonight.

Now, we're here talking about auditing, not politics. (audience laughter) And none of you people would, of course, be political pawns - naturally not. And some of the things which you experience and some of the conflicts which go on would, of course, be completely unbelievable to many, since it's supposed to be that way. But an auditor can break through any of this and break through it badly.

What will happen as a result of this is quite interesting. I would advise you, as soon as possible, to become as Clear as possible because ... Well, one never knows, does one? And it would be very, very nice to have on Earth a very sane society which was highly constructive and which was capable of carrying on without an impetus and without orders from elsewhere.

This would actually be just a monkey society if nobody had ever taken a hand in it, I suppose. But I'm not here to theorize and I'm not here to guess. I'm just talking to you about Dianetics and Scientology. And what I know about these things is, of course, very slight, and I hope that you will invest quite a bit of time in auditing.

And merely as an aside, in order to protect your preclear against suddenly having nightmares or something of the sort - regardless of whether you believe it or not or place any credence in it or not - just encourage him to knock off those bodies that he has that are extra bodies elsewhere. It's not that it's merely upsetting to the Martian regime; it is not that it is very effective in restoring his health, but you certainly cannot expect an individual who is pinned down someplace and can be put under pain from a remote distance, to become Clear. So just encourage him to knock them off.

Actually, they knock off relatively easily; the operation has been going on too long. And completely as aside, don't worry about flying saucers.

Thank you very much.