Okay. We have now a little example on exteriorization. I want to give you first the I routine for exteriorization and I do mean the routine.

This is January the 20th, 1954. This morning I want to show you this E-Meter, tell you a little bit about E-Meters. Although a man very often becomes an expert on airplanes without ever taking a lesson, he sometimes flies with his left wing slightly low. And it’s true of E-Meters.

You ask a preclear to “Be three feet back of your head” and when he is with some I certainty or without even much certainty, you ask him for three places he is not. You never ask him where he is. Until he is absolutely certain of his location and volunteers.

Very often an individual starts working with an E-Meter and works with it quite rigorously and so forth and some essential part of the problem hasn’t been called to his attention or he’s reading something a little bit off.

I the fact, you never send him to various portions of anywhere. You just start asking him к for “places he’s not.” “Be three feet back of your head.” “Give me some places you’re not.” Then you can run off, actually, the rest of Step la of 8-C if you want to. It is designed for that.

I know nearly all of you know a great deal about E-Meters, but this particular meter is a model which Volney and I put our heads together on, as is true of most of his work. The equivalent to this meter is the E-400. That’s the newest meter he has.

Now, if you ask him where he is, you’ll actually upset him. If you ask him to go to specific places and he doesn’t know where he is already, you’ll upset him further. If you start sending him places immediately when he’s completely uncertain and shaky about the thing, you’ll turn on an automaticity-it may send him places.

Now actually, the more complex one of these meters is, the more it will tell the auditor. But the more complex it is, the more it is liable to baffle an auditor. The ideal E-Meter has nothing but one electrode and one switch. And you turn it on and a little red light says “falling” and a little green light says “rising.” And that would be the end of the meter. It would have no needles, it would have nothing else. It’d just have two lights and a switch and it would adjust itself and so forth. And it would need one other device, which would be a little light which went on opposite a Tone Scale. There should be no adjustments, there should be nothing else with the meter than just that-it’d tell you the tone, whether it was rising or falling.

In other words, what you want to do is to run the lightest that you can run after a person is exteriorized.

Now, in the absence of such simplicity, it’s up there to a point where a fellow has to be practically an electrical engineer to get all there is to know out of one of these E-Meters. But the funny part of it is, if you do know the sets and know what this E-Meter is all about, it will tell you a fabulous amount of things today.

All right. We’ll give you an example of this.

Now, nobody has really gone into it, at any length, and put out comprehensive material on all the things this E-Meter will say.

LRH: [to pc] George, be three feet back of your head.

Volney, in his last textbook on the subject, An Electropsychometry Manual, uses Dianetics and Scientology a great deal in it. That manual is designed for doctors. He hopes that the medical market and so forth, that it will be quite alert to that. Dianetics and Scientology, by the way, are not mentioned in it. And this was before Volney got a lot of validation here at the last Congress and so on. He refers to me in it as a “controversial lecturer” and no further, which is amusing.

Now give me three universes you’re not buttered all over.

Anyway, you cannot, by the way, ever curry favor with an organization, like the doctors or something of this sort, merely by omitting controversial material. The actual method of stirring up interest is to be as blunt and take as firm a stand as possible. And it’s a little tough that way, but you will find, gradually, that the professions which fight you will have to close terminals with you.

PC: I’m not buttered all over my universe.

This is true of a great many things. This is true of religion. The Catholic Church is now closing terminals with psychoanalysis. Of course, it’s taken them sixty years to do that. But they’re closing terminals in this wise: “You mustn’t go too far with your psychoanalysis.” The Pope has issued several bulls. Always been amusing to me why they call them “bulls.” Anyway... Short form of the word, I guess. [laughter]

LRH: Okay, give me another one that you’re not buttered all over.

We have here the first thing-although this is the E-AR-400, that merely means it’s audio, it’s an audio 400. It has considerable additional skills on it and I’ll go into those, but basically, nearly everything I tell you here applies to the E-400, which is this meter without an audio. This not only has audio, it has inverted audio.

PC: My Home Universe.

Now, this particular meter here, as you can see, has two dials. And one of these dials is in tone. And the other dial is a surge meter. The one there on the right is a surge meter. And there is a way of zeroing this meter. You can zero this Tone Scale. And there’s a little additional gimmick here and what you do is have the individual take hold of the electrode, with this additional gimmick plugged in, and zero the meter.

LRH: Okay. One more.

We won’t go into zeroing the meter. These meters are, most of them, zeroed already. And they don’t vary enough to bother with. But you can, of course, zero the preclear. What you do is you just put a standard set of sets on there and get him up there until he reads 2.2 and then flip it off and you’ve got him zeroed On the meter.

PC: [sighs] Your universe.

But that’s almost beside the point. There’s no reason for you to go into electronics as to how you zero a meter. What’s more important to you is the relative tone.

LRH: Okay. Be three feet back of your head and find a nothingness somewhere, [pause] Got it?

But the funny part of it is, is that Tone Scale is accurate. That is the tone of the individual now in the E-AR-400. It makes former meters sort of horse-and-buggy. But that is the tone of the individual, particularly if it’s properly zeroed. But even if it isn’t zeroed, why, it comes so close to being the tone of the individual that it’s quite remarkable.

PC: No.

And this Tone Scale here, then, isn’t interpreted the same way the first E-Meter Tone Scales were interpreted. That was merely just a relative idea about more or less where the preclear sat. The funny part of it is, is this tone registered here goes exactly against the Hubbard Chart of Human Evaluation. And you’ll get the same manifestations out of the preclear as you read right here.

LRH: Can’t find a nothingness?

Now, you notice there’s А, В, C, D. Well, the reason for these А, В, C, D scales is you’ll find a preclear registering-he just merely picks up the electrode and sits there. And as you swing this А, В, C, D scale back and forth, you’ll find out that he will be on one of these scales, А, В, C, D, that’s all there is to it.

PC: No.

And you will notice over here that we have these scales marked А, В, C, D. All right. You merely read, then-let’s say he was on the D scale, which is the lowest tone of the scale, and it’s way down here at the bottom-the D is over here to the right and we read on this and we find out that he’s going on the scale here at .6.

LRH: Can you get a nothingness of your body?

Now, this meter will register on .6 and that is not true of earlier meters. They don’t register that low. A preclear is off the bottom of those other meters. Well, a preclear can be on here and be given an active needle.

PC: Kind of the idea of it.

People down around .6, 1-something on that order-actually, it’ll go below this, it’ll register on a dead man, really, if the fellow is not quite dead.

LRH: Well, can you get an idea of it?

But the point here is you get down very low on earlier meters and over here on the surge meter you merely get a stuck needle. You have to take a magnifying glass to notice its flick. Interesting. With the sensitivity control all the way up and everything else, you have to have a magnifying glass to see that he has moved.

PC: Yes.

The one particularly notable character who is today running all over the country administering-or here-administering CO2 to everybody is a terrific case. You wouldn’t think of it because he isn’t balky or anything, I mean, he doesn’t look any other way. But do you know that that man, who is the most violent foe of the E-Meter there is, won’t register on an earlier meter. He’s off the bottom of earlier meters. And he won’t register very sensitively on this one.

LRH: All right. Is that nothingness giving you orders?

But on the earlier meters it would take a magnifying glass to show a supercharge if you hit it on his case. And on this meter, you would actually see it recorded rather well over here on the surge meter. You see, you could see-you could detect the motion of the needle.

PC: No.

Now, people fight this meter, by the way, in those brackets, naturally. Those people are afraid of energy and have fought energy and are massed energy and have themselves associated with energy to a point which has caused them to close terminals and become a mass. Now, it’s people of this character, by the way, who use such things as electric shock and so on.

LRH: No. You certain of that?

If you were to turn this meter loose on most psychiatrists, you would find that the bracket I’ve just been talking about is applicable. I’m not kidding you about this. I mean, I’m not trying to make a point here and say psychiatry is all bad and so on. I’m just giving you a little word of warning. You have to turn that sensitivity knob up here, this red one, all the way up. And turn that scale over there to the D scale and you’re off. But on this meter you’ll be able to read them.

PC: Yes.

And on the Keeley lie detectors, they don’t read. This meter, now, is senior to the Keeley lie detector. It makes the Keeley lie detector look like something that’s being pulled around by a dinosaur, just because of that.

LRH: Let’s get another nothingness that isn’t giving you orders.

Now, when you consider that criminals don’t register on the Keeley lie detector to a certain percentage-it’s something on the order of about, let’s see, 17 percent incorrect responses and 10 percent no registry. By the way, Keeley has never wrapped this up, as many, many years as they’ve been in business up there near Chicago making these lie detectors at enormous cost. A lie detector is the most fabulously expensive thing that you ever tried to put up to the city council. At enormous cost, their coordinated data-because they lack the material of Dianetics-failed to disclose any of the reasons why, or the coordinated material, as to why this 10 percent didn’t register at all and this 17 percent registered incorrectly.

PC: [sighs] Nothing is-just make a thought.''

Now, the reason behind that, of course, is simply this matter of low tone. When you’re running an instrument consistently and continually on criminals, you are, of course, taking the lowest-toned strata of the society and, as such, you can expect that there would be a tremendous number of them that don’t register.

LRH: Okay. Now give me three places you’re not.

Now, personally, I believe this to be true because I’ve done some work with police lie-detector operators, I believe the percentage is much, much higher than that. I don’t even think they’ve done a good index with their percentage.

PC: Not in that corner of the room, that corner and that corner.

Well anyway, you can get this fellow down here on this little dial and you can get a registry. That’s important to us because many a psychotic is apparently in good condition, excellent condition. You can put him on one of these meters and, my gosh, he’s down there ticking 1. You just say to yourself “Oh-oh!” Because the meter happens to be telling the truth now.

LRH: Good. Be three feet back of your head.

It’s taken Volney-this is quite a trauma, but it’s taken Vblney quite a little while to coordinate that Tone Scale up there. And it’s interesting that he took the Tone Scale, which was done by symbolic logic, as his monitor on the thing and that it continues to hold true through all experimentation. Tone Scale is holding true and then this meter is registering against the Tone Scale.

PC: Okay.

Now, that’s important for you to know because one of these days you’ll pick up somebody who says, “I’m Clear,” see? And he’s “clear,” all right. And he’ll be registering around 1.5 or something. Oh no, he’s not. Because an able tolerance for the body, operatively, is between 2.5 and 3.5 and a body just doesn’t operate well below that level.

LRH: And give me three more places you’re not. [pause] Now get real certain about this.

And a thetan exteriorized would-he actually wouldn’t be able to get adequate responses out of a body which was registering below 2.5. So he would certainly patch it up, whether he was having anything to do with it or not. If he was going to manage it rather consistently, why, he would patch it up to the point where it would register above that level.

PC: Notin El Cerrito.

Now, that’s quite low (2.5 to 3.5) and it’s, however, an admissible low-reading level for a Theta Clear. It’s admissibly low. You’ll find out that Theta Clears register ordinarily much higher than this, the main reason being that they’re in pretty darn good shape physically.

LRH: Mm-hm.

Now, let’s take another look at this and find out if there’s anything else that would tell us anything about our preclear immediately that might be interesting to know. Yes. This meter, above all things, will run a basal metabolism on a preclear. And it will run a BMR more accurately than BMR machines. This is interesting. It requires its coordination scale and that has not yet been released.

PC: Not in my room in Phoenix.

But the point is that this machine actually will run a basal metabolism on an individual and rather rapidly.

LRH: Mm-hm.

Now, as you know or maybe you don’t know, very often they will take somebody into a hospital and keep them there overnight and wheel them out very carefully on a wagon and put the cone over their face-not let them move or exercise or get up in the morning or anything and then take this terrifically careful reading and then finally let them go.

PC: I'm not in close to Phoenix.

And that is their basal metabolism, which is to say, the burning rate-let’s just call it the burning rate of oxygen in the body and carbon. They get it by measuring the breath of the individual. And after they’ve done all this, it’s quite silly that somebody can simply walk into your office and you can get his BMR the moment he puts his hand on the meter.

LRH: Good. Give me three more places.

Volney wasn’t even going to put this together, because it’s kind of shameful toward these big BMR machines because there are just thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars’ worth of stuff, you see, and tremendously complicated. And it takes years to run one of these things and he wasn’t even going to get the front scale together on this.

PC: I'm not in the front office here.

But it’s very, very important to an auditor. We don’t care what the artificial numbers are on the basal metabolism scale. We don’t care what those are. But we sure care that if we’re going to process this preclear-if he is in such sad and sorry condition in terms of burning rate-that he is in chronic or acute fatigue. Because if we process somebody who is in chronic or acute fatigue with any kind of a heavy process, if we just process him without making him rest, we’ll have somebody who is worse off after the processing than before the processing simply because he can’t burn enough energy physically to be processed. The energy isn’t there.

LRH: Mm-hm.

Now, how do you run this mysterious BMR test? Well, you have the preclear take hold of the electrode, you put him on the tone meter over here (that is to say, you’ve just adjusted these on the А, В, C or D scale). You adjust that and you tell him to take a breath and exhale. And if he’s in good shape, our surge meter over here will fly, with good action, down to the bottom of the pin.

PC: Not in the house next door to the left.

If he’s in real good shape, it’ll hit the bottom of the pin and sort of go ping, ping, ping, you know? It would have fallen three more dials. If he’s in real good shape, it’ll do that. But certainly it’ll swing the entire width of the dial.

LRH: Mm-hm.

Now, you know that after you put him on the dial, you touch this little center button here and that brings our surge meter over here to the extreme left of the dial. And as he’d take the breath, you would see the needle go over here to the right side of the dial. If he’s in the kind of shape which would tolerate processing, that needle will go all the way across and hit the pin and come back.

PC: Next door to the right.

But if he is not in good shape-this is really all you need to know, you don’t need to know the relative scales-but if he’s not in good shape, it will go slowly across the dial. He’ll go [inhale, exhale] and you’ll see that needle go slowly across the dial over to the right and slowly return. That man can be processed with care.

LRH: Okay. Now where aren’t you thinking right now?

But it’s also telling you right over here on your tone meter what kind of shape he’s in, because he’s probably reading about 1.5, ordinarily. Unless, of course, he’s a runner or something that, has just been ten times around the track and you could find his burning rate and his fatigue was way down, you see? This would be the other deciding factor.

PC: Not thinking on top of the Empire State Building.

That fellow, too, shouldn’t be processed. You should let him sit there and rest up and get his breath back. In other words, if you got a bad reading here on this breathing test, you just wouldn’t process the fellow.

LRH: Okay.

Now, what is a really bad reading on the test? The fellow heaves a sigh and the needle slightly vibrates. Doesn’t go anyplace. That man would be practically dead. As a matter of fact, it’d be doubtful if that individual could have walked himself into your office. Now that’s how bad the reading could be.

PC: Top of the Westward Ho.

And the critical reading and the no-process reading is when it won’t go over and hit the pin. It won’t go over to the right side of the meter. He takes a breath and it doesn’t go over to the right side of the meter, doesn’t reach that pin over there, you let him sit there and rest for a little while. Don’t even talk to him. You just tell him to take it easy.

LRH: Good.

Now, the funny part of it is he might look like he’s in a state of agitation. You know, I mean he’s animated and so forth and yet the needle doesn’t go over and hit the pin. This guy is riding one of these burn-them-all-up manics. So it does a very good job of detection on this guy.

PC: And underneath this building.

Now, if it goes over about halfway and slowly comes back, this fellow will just have to rest up. Otherwise you’ll get yourself in trouble as an auditor. You’ll process him there for an hour and he’ll be worse. And you process him for another hour and he’ll be much worse.

LRH: Good. Give me three auditors who are not auditing you at this moment.

The reason for this is, in its early stages, the individual is dependent upon the residual energy in the body to be processed. And that’s why you take Bj and so forth. This body is a carbon-oxygen machine. The thetan is not a carbon-oxygen machine, he’s joined up with one.

PC: Pam, Ross, Lee.

And exteriorized, however, the thetan still can pull energy out of the body. And you start to run an engram on this individual, you reduce his havingness (which is to say, you reduce the number of terminals which he has) and you’re throwing away a certain amount of his energy. And as a consequence, if you process him a little bit more, you’ll blow a few more locks and you’ll just make him a little more tired, because he is not at this point.

LRH: Okay. Give me three more that aren’t auditing you at this moment.

There is a make-break point on a case. And that is the point where the individual can process locks without marked loss of energy and where a preclear, when he processes locks, experiences a marked loss of energy.

PC: John, Tom, Esta.

Now, the difference between these two preclears-one that can run locks without any marked loss of energy and the other one who, when he runs some locks, experiences a marked loss of energy-is, in the first case, an individual not depending upon terminals. He’s simply creating energy. And the other fellow is so terribly dependent upon the dichotomy, the modus operand! of the MEST universe, that only residual or stored energy is used by him to run the machine. He isn’t furnishing any energy to the machine at all.

LRH: Good. Give me three more that aren’t auditing you at this moment.

Now, the make-break point on that happens to be about 2.0 on the Tone Scale. People below 2.0 on the Tone Scale are using terminals. They’re getting the interchange between two masses in order to get their energy. They have to eat to live.

PC: Jeannette, Carroll...

Now, at above 2.0-and increasingly, as it goes on up-the individual can create sufficient energy to replace the energy which has been exhausted. You find these individuals will go on various sprints of activity sometimes and they forget to eat and it just doesn’t bother them particularly. And some other fellow goes on a sprint and forgets to eat and it practically kills him! Well, the difference are those two things: On SOP 8, the individual who needs to eat, exclusively, exclusively dependent upon eating for energy, is IV down. SOP 8-that’s a Step IV, V, VI, VII. And Steps I, II and III create a certain amount of energy.

LRH: One more.

Now, once in a while, one of these fellows who is still creating his energy as a thetan and putting it out gets into an interesting condition. He gets tired of creating energy for the damn thing. He just gets tired of it. And he’ll quit! And at that moment he steps into the category of IV, V, VI and VII. See, it’s just the difference between whether the thetan is creating energy or not creating energy and that shows up on your dial over here as telling you he’s either below 2.0 or above 2.0 and that shows up over here again in basal metabolism if the individual is tired.

PC: Burke.

If the individual is tired or hasn’t been eating well, who is a IV, V, VI or VII, you’ll find that the needle won’t go over and hit the pin. And when it comes back, it’ll come back rather slowly.

LRH: Okay. Now give me three preclears you are not auditing at this moment.

Well, you tell that fellow to rest up for a little while or get himself a bite to eat and you come back and tell him to take a long breath as he grabs on to the meter and you’ve set it again over here on your Tone Scale and zeroed it by pressing this middle button and you say, “All right. Now take a long breath.” He does. It goes over and hits the pin and comes back again.

PC: Lee, Bob, Tom.

Now, an individual in the I, II, III category, you tell him to take a long breath and let it out, just like this: uuh-hhhh or uuuhhh-huhhhhhbhhhh (you don’t care exactly what the moment of breathing is), and it goes over and hits the pin and goes ting ting ting ting ting!

LRH: Okay. Give me three auditors you are not being audited by at this moment.

You know, if you’re really riding this center button here-your reset button right in the middle of it there-and you were catching it every time it was hitting the pin, it’d keep on going across the dial and hitting the pin. In other words, he’d fall maybe three dials, four dials, five dials. You know, that means when he takes in some oxygen, boy, does it take off in terms of energy. See?

PC: John, Edna, Jim.

Well now, if Volney will get busy on this coordination and index against the BMR coordination and index, the remaining data would be set up down here: Where do these things have to be, you see, in order to get a read? And he’d get all of the lower basal metabolism readings, because with this machine just set at average, the behavior of the needle is not numerically exact. And when people are getting their basal metabolisms read-that is, their burning rate read-why, you’re interested mainly in low-toned characters because they’re sick. And doctors would like to have that reading on the very lower one. I don’t know what they’d do with it, but they’d probably put it down in a report so they can sit and look at it.

LRH: Good. Three more auditors you’re not being audited by at this moment.

But the machine should have that because it’s a better machine for basal metabolism than basal metabolism machines. Okay. So much for that.

PC: Maida, Dick and Janet.

Just to go over these steps again: as your preclear sat down, he would take hold of this electrode-just hold it loosely, limply. You’d set him on the Tone Scale and you’d zero the meter and you’d say, “Take a breath and let it out.”

LRH: Good. Now give me three auditors who aren’t auditing me at this moment.

He would. It goes down, it hits the pin, comes back rather readily.

PC: Me, Jeannette...

You say, “Fine.”

LRH: Mm-hm.

Okay.

PC: ...and Ross.

Now, there’s two things you can do here which are of interest. If you really want to do E-Metering for blood, you will take over the automatic machine which is making that hand flinch that is holding that electrode. And thereafter you get steady readings.

LRH: Good. Three more that aren’t auditing me.

People get very tricky on that electrode. They’ll hold it loosely, they’ll hold it tightly. They will try to lessen their grasp on it up to the ratio that the needle will fall so that the needle won’t read when they speak of a certain subject and so on.

PC: Jim, Joe, Marilyn.

Honest, a fellow who can fool a good E-Meter operator just hasn’t been born. But they will try to do this and it interferes with your readings. So you simply take over the automatic machine which makes them clinch and so on, on that electrode.

LRH: Good. Three more that aren’t auditing me.

Well, if your individual is reading too low, I would not advise you to take over that automatic machine, because any automatic machine you try to take over will simply flip his valence and you’ll get him doing nothing. He’s too low to have you reach for and grab a machine, so you want to remember that.

PC: Jonathan, Lulu, Jeannette.

But once in a while an individual who is nervous or something of the sort is giving you an unstable grip. You know, he’s giving it a grip. Well, right at that point, just as a matter of routine, you could put into it, “All right. Squeeze the electrode now and let go. Squeeze the electrode and let go. Squeeze the electrode and let go.” Do it about fifteen times and after that you’ll get a steady needle. You have run out his impulse to vary the reading one way or the other, by squeezing the electrode.

LRH: Mm-hm. Three more.

Now naturally, you wouldn’t have to set the machine any further to run this exercise.

PC: Ed, Brad and Alan.

And the thing you would do after that is find how lively a needle you have. There is nothing more horrible than trying to sit and read a needle which is all over the dial and which is reading with every breath of the preclear.

LRH: Okay. Now three that aren’t auditing you at this moment.

Now, it shows you there that the needle does read with every breath of the preclear. You see that clearly. All right. If it is, why, naturally it’ll vary your readings. So when you get a deep surge, did the preclear just sigh?

PC: Runa, George, Alphia.

The funny part of it is that the Keeley lie detector depends to a large degree-it depends on a tape and it has a blood-pressure indicator and a respirator and that is to say, it measures the input and output of the lungs and-what else does that thing have?

LRH: Okay. Now let’s get a wider time view of this. You know, you’ve been in this business a long time now. Give me three auditors that aren’t auditing you.

I always state the thing it should have (to myself) because it’s too close to a truth that the machine ought to be built that way and it isn’t built that way. It’d be the galvanic reading of the individual. Machine isn’t built for that, though. So we’ll just skip what the third one is on a Keeley. For some reason or other, every time I look at a Keeley, I say, “It ought to be rebuilt.” So I guess, finally, now I’ve rebuilt it.

PC: Marilyn, Dick...

And it works this way: You see these three needles and you track one against the other. Well, you’ve got all these three actions occurring here on this one needle, so you haven’t broken them down. Well, you don’t care whether the individual is sighing or whether he is suddenly a little bit tenser or whether an engram has moved in, actually, you have put this individual under stress.

LRH: Mm-hm.

The moment you said “Mother,” the individual went under stress and it reflected in the needle. That’s all you wanted to know. There isn’t any reason to say that “Well, it reflected against the breath” and so on.

PC: ...and Smokey Angell.

Well, it’s important for you to know that because there’s-several funny little readings. Two important ones are the “sigh” reading-you know, the individual says, Uhhh-huhhh! Yes, Mother!” And of course, it goes down eighteen dials. Why? Because it was Uhhh-huhhh!” See? And you’ve got this basal metabolism reading all over again-a brief measure of his air. All right. They do that too.

LRH: Okay. And three that are not, on a long-term basis, of the auditors you've known, three that aren’t auditing me.

And the other fellow is the fellow who is rather line-he’s not quite line charging, but he, you might say, is giggling. Or he says, “Well, I guess I’m not over there. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Well, um-no, I-I’ve never been married before. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!” And you’d think there was something funny if you didn’t know you were still reading the BMR rating. See, you’re reading his breathing.

PC: Um . .. Bruce.

And the difference here is the difference of a lag.

LRH: Mm-hm. [pause] Two more.

You’ll say “Mother.”

PC: I’ve got a couple, but I can’t get their names. Jack...

And then he’ll go “Huhhhh, well no, she’s dead now. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!”

LRH: Mm-hm.

I don’t know. Not necessarily that silly. You’ll find some fellows who are perfectly reasonable who will have a tendency to laugh and discount everything they’ve said, with a laugh, after they’ve said it. It’s sort of an apology for having said something.

PC: ...Conrad.

So your needle will sit there for a moment, inactive. Well, that means the question was inactive. You know, right as you asked the question the needle was inactive.

LRH: Okay. And three that aren’t auditing you.

You said “Mother” and you got no action.

PC: John.

But then he said “Well, she’s dead now. Ha-ha-ha-ha!” And then your needle went zoom!

LRH: Mm-hm.

Now, what are you reading on that second zoom? You’re just reading the amount of air that went in and out of his lungs. So the reading itself is not important. So you read the meter against the preclear. You see that? Many an auditor, by the way, has been a little bit baffled by this-why he gets these late sinks.

PC: Bruce...

Now this thing, this E-400, reads when-and so do all E-Meters that have an alert needle-they read the instant the question is asked. There’s no lag. The electronic impulse reads the instant the question is asked. And then other manifestations walk in on it such as a sigh, a laugh, a sudden relaxation or a sudden spasm through the body.

LRH: Mm-hm.

You asked the question and it produced a spasm in the body. Well, the first reading is the one you want: the electronic surge which was produced in the body which preceded the mechanical convulsion or sigh or giggle in the body. And you want that electrical impulse and that’s the first thing it reads.

PC: Joyce.

And you say “Mother” and the needle goes zing.

LRH: Good. Let’s be three feet back of your head.

And then he says, “She’s dead. Ha-ha-ha-ha” and then the needle goes zong. Who cares about it going zong afterwards? We want that first moment it went flick, see? And we got a bad jar on the needle right there at the first moment. Well, that’s how you’d get around that fellow. By the way, it just reads rather uniformly, on most people it doesn’t do this. But people who sigh-you know that every time you look at a preclear who is sighing, you’re looking straight at a grief charge that’s sitting right on the surface. There is a grief charge there.

Little easier now?

As I said, the first thing that you would do about the thing would be to run out his impulse to squeeze that can. Just say to him, “All right. Now, squeeze it and let it go and squeeze it and let it go and squeeze it and let it go.”

PC: Little bit, not too much.

And the next thing you would do would be to set your needle to get the relative action you wanted on the case.

LRH: Not too much. All right. Give me three places in your body where you aren’t thinking.

Now, there’s two ways to go about this and the first way is not the most optimum, 9 because it involves a touch of the preclear. But if you want to get a rather big reaction on the machine, you just touch him on the back of the neck and say, “Has a girl ever kissed you there?” Or touch her on the back of the neck and say, “Has a guy ever kissed you there?” And you get a reaction on the machine every time. That gives you a reaction. Gives you a big reaction.

PC: Hot thinking in my right foot, left foot, my right kneecap.

Well now, if you want that reaction and you would ordinarily in processing people-auditors like different kinds of needles, but if you’d had that only drop five units on this surge scale, you would be reading a very tight meter. I mean, it’d be very small action. If you set it to read 10, you would be reading an E-Meter about the way I read it. A test like that, resulting in a drop of ten units.

LRH: All right. Three more places where you’re not thinking.

Many an auditor tries to read this meter where that test would drop two dials because this machine can be set so it’d drop five dials. You see that? You could set this machine a lot of different ways.

PC: My lefthand, my abdomen, my pelvis.

Well, how do you do that? Well, let’s look down here and over to the extreme right and we find two knobs. And the one at the top is called the “energy input” and the one at the bottom is called a “surge needle damping.” Now, this red button is really the same old needle-this doesn’t change its reads, this just changes its action on this machine. They changed the read on the earlier machine, but this changes the action on this machine-at least it’s supposed to. All right.

LRH: Okay. And give me three auditors that aren’t auditing you at this moment.

This is the same as your sensitivity needle-this red needle. And it works the same way. Of course, it turns the machine on and off over here just like your old red sensitivity needle did on the early E-Meters.

PC: Melanie, Margaret and Elizabeth.

Well, you bring that up here to about-a person who’s all over the dial-if you tried to bring that off of its reading at 2, which is down there at about 8 o’clock on this dial, gee, you wouldn’t get much of a read at all. It’d be a real poor read. So if you touched him on the back of the neck and said, “Has a girl ever kissed you here?” you’d probably get a drop of about one unit on the surge meter. That’s just no good.

LRH: Okay. Three more.

So let’s see what the extremity of it would be. And that is, we turn it clear over here to about 5:30 or 11 or 12 on the marked dial and we find out that a touch on the back of

PC: Jonathan, Pam, [sighs] Jim.

Note: This section of the lecture contains sound distortions caused by faulty equipment in the original recordings. the neck-“Has agirl ever kissed you here?” something on that order-would immediately demonstrate several dials’ worth of fall.

LRH: Okay. Now give me three preclears you’re not processing right now.

And these little tests I’m giving you here are with the upper needle just set at 12 o’clock, just set in the middle-set on its unit reading of 6. I’m giving you bomber positions for these needles. I find them very superior to just arbitrary figures-you know, a clock face, because everybody knows a clock face. All right.

PC: Lee, Edna, Jackie.

Now, this upper dial reads just backwards to the other one. With the upper dial-you see, this is input and this upper dial over here-energy input-if you were to set the lower dial here at 6 and you were to set the upper dial all the way on, oh, clear over to 11 or 12, you’d get your minimum surge-needle response. And you get your maximum surge-needle response on this upper dial over here with it set at 1 or 2. In other words, if maximum on the machine would be the upper-the “energy input”-set over here at 6:30 or 7 o’clock, see, over here at 1 or 2 (in other words, not on at all, hardly) and your sensitivity needle, your output needle, set clear over here at 11 or 12 o’clock.

LRH: Good. And three auditors who aren’t auditing you right now.

In other words, those two dials set in reverse there would give the maximum wildness to this surge-meiter reading. That would give you terrific action.

PC: Cliff, Wanda, Jerry.

And you as an auditor would sit there and you’d ask the fellow, “Did you ever have a dog?” and you get a dial drop. “Have you ever run an automobile?” and you get a dial drop, see? And this would leave you in this kind of a position: You’d have to keep reaching up here and punching that surge discharger every time you turned around, to get the needle back to zero. And you’d spend so much time doing that, you wouldn’t get the reads on the meter. So that’s-be too much.

LRH: Good. Three more that aren’t auditing you.

Too much on this, then, would be the upper dial set at 1 or not on, really. And the other, the lower dial, set at all the way on-the red dial set at all the way on-that gives you maximum response. All right.

PC: Connie, Esta, Vicky.

So where can we read these things just for an elementary sort of a set? Well, let’s just put them both at 12 o’clock. Now, preclear to preclear, that’s too much or too little. Doesn’t matter. But let’s just take it from there.

LRH: Good. Give me three techniques that aren’t being used on you at this moment.

And now we find we’ve got too much action. Well, let’s just leave that top one alone and take that red one and cut it down to 11 o’clock. See? Cut it down to where it reads there-3 or 5, somewhere in there-3, 4, 5, whatever it reads, which is 11 o’clock on a clock face-9, 10, 11 o’clock.

PC: Repeater.

In other words, let’s follow a good engineering rule-is vary as few things as possible. Then if you say to somebody, so-and-so and so-and-so, and he’s very active, well, your word “active” means something if one of these is held as a constant.

LRH: Mm-hm.

You say, “This fellow is very active on the meter and I had to carry him on his sensitivity down to practically nothing in order to keep the needle on the dial.” Well, that makes sense.

PC: Double Terminals.

Now, this will read with any reading that an earlier meter would read and the only thing that really confuses auditors about these later meters is they try to read them too live. They try to read them much too live.

LRH: Good.

On a big control case, you’d probably take all the damp off of it.

PC: Self Analysis.

Yeah, you just take all the damp off of it and you’d read it over here, down here on a clock face, at about 7 o’clock and on this meter you’d read it at 1. And this would give you your maximum control case-I mean, the fellow who is reading down here at 1 and one-half or something like that, to get a good read down here. That’s too much needle, by the way, to give it-you’d have to cut him down. I don’t think a case could be so bad that you would read this inverse. That is to say, you’d read it where your sensitivity is all the way on and your damping all the way off.

LRH: Good. And three auditors who aren’t auditing other auditors.

Now, if you find your needle is still too active, you just turn on this damper. And you can just damp the needle and damp it and damp it and damp it. The more this upper button is on, why, the more your needle is damped. All that does, by the way, is just damp the needle. It just slows it down. And you’ll finally get a very stiff, stodgy needle that doesn’t tell you any of its inner reactions at all. And you’ll find these are not significant.

PC: Hank, he isn’t auditing Alphia.

But if you’ll carry that upper one at 6 and your lower one down here at 6, which is 12 o’clock, clock face-just carry them, each one of them, straight up-why, you’ll get a read. And if you kind of start in that way, why, you can vary it from there and you’ll be happier in the long run for having a constancy.

LRH: Good.

Now, it’s important for you to have a meter constant and to get used to a meter-get used to your own meter and get a constant on it. That is to say, this preclear, then, is more active than another preclear. You know, you’d say, “Boy, is this guy wild!” Well, you wouldn’t ever be able to judge one preclear against the other preclear unless you had a constant read, you know? You had to set these buttons down here rather constantly, preclear to preclear, in order to get a relative reading in preclears. So just take it, each one, at 12 o’clock and you got it. All right. Too many dials here.

PC: Dick isn ’t auditing Carroll.

Now of course, we have up here “surge needle set.” On the old machines, we had a lower dial, you know, that did this sort of thing, but this upper one, you notice as I swing it back and forth here, even with just the can lying there with no more contact than it would get on a piece of wood, I can get the needle to read, see, with this set.

LRH: Good.

Well, what’s that do? All that does is just bring your needle back. See? That’s just a way of partly bringing your needle back. You know, you just turn that center knob here, exact middle of the upper face of the machine, and you just turn that back just a little bit and it’ll bring your needle back from 10 to 5 for instance, see? You’ll get that, see? You can turn that back here. So here’s your needle riding there at 5 and the preclear has gone over here at 10. Well, you want to get him back in this black area here. Well, you just readjust that delicately and you’ll get him back in the black area, which, actually, you can take the charge that’s running through the preclear off. And you hit that on the discharge machine and it brings this baby clear back to zero. See that? Now, I’ll show you how that is.

PC: Pam isn’t auditing Lee.

Now, we’ve got that needle all the way over there. And we bring that back to zero by simply discharging it. And here it goes again. See? Now, we want to know how many dials that fellow is dropping, we keep dropping that discharge needle. And we’ll see him going on down.

LRH: Good. Give me three auditing breaks which aren’t being made at this moment.

But you notice that it’s operating here without any variation on the table itself. It tells you that this needle and the meter is simply set up to read just as it’s set up to read this moment and it’s just going to go on reading that way regardless of how many times I touch this discharge button. So don’t keep fooling yourself with the discharge button. You see that?

PC: Not being invalidated, being evaluatedfor, not being made uncertain.

It’s better E-Metering to take that center pin and bring him back with it, instead of touching this discharge button all the time. Well, you see why this is. The thing is sitting on the table now. The table isn’t varying in potential. There’s a slight trickle going through the electrode because it’s sitting on a piece of wood and every time we touch that button, it comes back here and then it falls again. Well, the table isn’t getting different charges.

LRH: Not being made what?

So the only argument I would have with this meter is the relative lack of value of that discharge button. I would meter it and would continue to handle it.

PC: Uncertain.

The other night, when I was running Volney on this meter-this is a brand-new production, this is the first one of the series. And I kept avoiding this discharge button because I’ve had some experience with the earlier machines that had them, I just didn’t do anything about it. And he’d keep reaching over indicating I should touch the discharge button, you know, thinking I wasn’t accustomed to this new invention. I’d keep readjusting him up here on this button. I wasn’t interested in having it come back to the pin, I was interested in getting how far he was going to drop now. You see that?

LRH: Good. All right. And three auditors who aren’t auditing you?

So if you keep handling this center-of-the-face button up here, way up, just below this big “M,” why, you keep handling that, you know, and bringing it back. Well, you bring that to the black and the guy still falls. So you have to bring it back some further, you know? He still falls, and bring it back again. This tells you, “Boy, is this guy falling!”

PC: Is it all right to start duplicating?

If you just keep sitting there hitting the discharge needle, you’re simply getting the same charge on the preclear every time and you’re seeing lots of needle action that tells you the preclear is falling and he isn’t falling!

LRH: Well now, there’s no laws against duplicating, not around here.

Well, the machine would be better off if it didn’t have that discharge button on it. So if you leave that alone-it’s fun and looks very effective and efficient and it’s quite a gesture and so forth-just leave that alone and set the meter here with this upper dial button, you’ll get an accurate read from your preclear and you won’t get told any lies. Because that doesn’t tell you-this button here—that he’s going on dropping, dropping, dropping.

PC: Jeannette, Ross and Dick.

I’ll show you again, that’s not the case. You understand that that button is—that that is now reading constant, isn’t it? That must be reading constant because it’s sitting there with a tiny trickle going through the wood of the table. All right.

LRH: Okay. And what auditor in particular isn’t auditing you right now?

Here he is over here. All right. Now we’re going to discharge it. You see your needle? Your needle is going right on over there to read 30 again. And if you kept on punching the pin time after time after time, you’d think your preclear was falling dial after dial after dial. He’s not. The table isn’t falling dial after dial here. See? And yet doesn’t that look impressive?

PC: Lulu.

All it does is, while you’ve got the button down, it interrupts the charge going through the machine and then the machine reads again, just as it read before. It doesn’t reset the needle. All right.

LRH: Mm-hm.You sure of that?

But look at this. We twist that little dial there and it comes back over and stays there.

PC: Mm-hm.

That meter is set real interestingly. You know what it’s reading?

LRH: All right. Then be three feet back of your head.

Female voice: Me.

PC: A little bit easier.

Hm?

LRH: Good. Throw up a mock-up of buttering you all over the universe.

Female voice: It's reading on me now.

PC: Mm-hm.

See that? It’s not, it’s reading my beam on it. I’ve been talking about the electrode down here and it more or less had hold of it. Interesting.

LRH: Duplicate it.

Well anyway, besides that, if we want to go on about the E-AR-400, we get into some very interesting material in terms of probes and so on. Now, the audio part of this machine is tremendously impressive to a preclear and is one of the reasons why it is extremely useful to a doctor or chiropractor. Impresses hell out of him. It tells him where he hurts.

PC: Mm-hm.

Well, right now I could give you a very nice dissertation on the subject of pain. You know many of your preclears are in pain because there isn’t enough pain. If you want to work this over and you want to understand this very thoroughly, you’d certainly better waste pain in a bracket on some preclear or get the pain wasted in a bracket on you. Don’t avoid pain to the point of not running pain on somebody. It’s quite important to do that.

LRH: Duplicate it.

[to student] The machine still reading?

PC: Mm-hm.

Female voice: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

Yeah, it’s running.

PC: Mm-hm.

It’s quite important to run pain in terms of wasting it in brackets to understand it. The stuff is valuable! And your preclear is much sicker-your preclear is much sicker for having it taken away from him instead of having more made for him.

LRH: Duplicate it.

Here’s your pain problem. Fellow comes in to you, he’s got a toothache. His tooth hurts like the devil. His tooth is hurting like the devil on some high level of protest against pain, so you’re going to take the pain out of the tooth. So you work for three or four minutes and the pain is getting more intense in the tooth. And you take more pain out of the tooth, you start running it out and you spend another fifteen, twenty minutes on it and it’s getting more intense and it’s not going away. And the fellow is getting sadder.

PC: Mm-hm.

Well, if you were to mock-up-have him mock-up the sensation of pain in his tooth and mock it up in the teeth next to his tooth and to mock it up above the tooth and below the tooth and push it in on the tooth, you would find with this added sensation the tooth would stop hurting.

LRH: Throw the duplicates away.

Here we have Acceptance Level Processing. A person is denied something continuously. Your family, all the people around you, have told you all your life you mustn’t have pain. Therefore, they have made a scarcity of pain. That which is scarce, the thetan desires.

PC: Mm-hm.

The hardest thing for an auditor to swallow is the value of agony, until he himself has had some pain wasted on him.

LRH: Be three feet back of your head now and make a duplicate of the room.

When he’s had some pain wasted on him, he begins to understand it. “You know, that stuff is valuable.”

PC: Okay.

Now, as a thetan, he goes down to soothe this poor body which is writhing in agony and, boy, is that a lot of pain, see? Slurp! Slurp! Pain. Slurp! He makes this big protest of how awful it is.

LRH: Duplicate it.

Now, a lot of people, when you tell them something like that, they say, “Why, this Can’t be true. Pain is something you can’t have.” Well, they’ve bought the social package that pain is something you can’t have and that it is not valuable and so on.

PC: Mm-hm.

Well, boy, it is really high-level sensation. You realize a thetan can only survive. He can’t do anything else but survive. Pain can’t do anything to him, he doesn’t have any anatomy. But he can enjoy the sensation of pain. Or he can block pain when it is hurting something he’s trying to protect. But the very scarcity of it creates a starvation for it.

LRH: And again.

So this fellow walks into the doctor’s office to brag. And he says, “I have the awfullest pain in my chest.” And now the doctor gives him something to take the pain away. Well, that’s perfectly okay with the individual. He knows that he shouldn’t have a pain in his chest. The funny part of it is that the more the pain is taken away, the more chronic it is liable to become.

PC: Mm-hm.

If the auditor in this case were to mock-up large masses in agony and push them together and push them into the preclear-I mean, just the auditor do this-he would see that the preclear experienced release. I don’t mean have the preclear do this. I’m just talking about things that you really shouldn’t do. You just mock-up, oh, real good, hot agony, see, and shove it in the preclear’s chest. And the next thing you know, why, you’d say, “Well, by double terminals and other necromancy, it has happened.” No, it hasn’t. It just happened on the mass of pain. The person has gotten up past the pain band, finally-got a satiation for it at the moment. It’s like hunger. You do it that way and these chronic pains cease to be chronic.

LRH: And again.

So this machine is fixed to detect pain. This means it’ll set up in a doctor’s office or something of this sort. And you take this probe meter here-you take this probe meter and you tell the patient to hold it in his hand.

PC: Mm-hm.

[whistle] Boy, is that hot. Don’t do that, by the way, to a preclear-he’ll hate you forever-that is to say, turn that probe needle on when you’ve got the rest of the machine on.

LRH: And again.

Now, we want this thing on “audio” and off of “meter.” Now, it says down here in the middle bottom dial-big, middle bottom dial-“surge meter,” see? Then over here on this side it says “audio.” And then way over here it says “inverted audio” on this machine. All right.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, let’s bring it down here to “audio” and we take it off of “surge meter” and actually at that moment your surge meters are dead. They are not now operating. But the audio is operating.

LRH: And again.

Now, here’s “audio volume,” is over here. It says “audio sensitivity” and so forth-is the big dial to the right. It’s the one which is immediately adjacent to the words “surge meter.” All right, it says at the top of this dial “audio sensitivity.”

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. We have to bring this over here. Now we’ve got “low” and “high,” which gives us two levels of volume to go on. And then we’ve got “audio volume,” which tells us how loud this thing is going to scream and here we have also-well, this is an “oscillator cut-off.” That’s beside the point on this instrument. Okay.

LRH: And again.

Let’s go over here on “audio.” It’s pointed straight down now because this needle is hot. This probe needle is hot. That is to say, it’s got an electrical current and I have it against my face, it’s still hot. Now Volney, what have you done to us? Ha-ha! It’s grounded against its own case. Well, that’s fine. Okay. Now, you touch the case and touch the probe and-that’s right, that’s true of this meter.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, what we’re interested in doing here ... Come here, Jeanette.

LRH: And again.

Sit over here on the seat because I can’t handle the meter and handle the probes too. Now, just sit down and hold that very nicely. Now, we’re going to show you some of the fallacies of this machine with regard to pain, but we’re also going to show you its terrific power to do some very interesting things.

PC: Mm-hm.

[to student] Is that hot?

LRH: And again.

Female voice: No.

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. Just hold on to that. All right. Now we’re going to find... Usually somebody is hot around here someplace.

LRH: Throw them away.

Now, let’s see. Did it bite?

PC: Mm-hm.

Female voice: Um, sort of.

LRH: Mock-up a horse’s body (this is nothing personal), just mock-up a horse’s body that you’re going to say you’ve exteriorized from right now-pretend you’ve exteriorized from this horse’s body.

Did it bite? By golly, it did bite!

PC: Mm-hm.

Female voice: Didn’t hurt.

LRH: And get where you’re not in this horse’s body.

All right. Audio high-low and gain oscillator control. This thing has a bit of a bite in it. He told me it had. But he was trying to work it out.

PC: I know Гт not in his head, not in his feet, not in his tail.

Now, your audio sensitivity over here ought to holler like mad, right about now. Here, put it against your face, somewhere around here. Just tap, tap, tap around your upper lip. Hm. Come around with your face to this machine. [high-pitched electronic tone]

LRH: Good. Now get exactly where you are located with regard to the horse now.

Now we got it. Thatagirl. Now, touch it against your upper lip.

PC: About three feet above his head.

[fluctuating electronic tone] Now just touch it and hold it there.

LRH: Good. Good. Now make the horse go away.

Now take it off. Now put it back. [fluctuating electronic tone]

PC: Mm-hm.

Female voice: It's howling and I didn’t even touch it.

LRH: Good. Now let’s get a baseball from which you’re exteriorizing.

Thank you. I’m resetting the thing.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now touch it against your upper lip. Are you touching it?

LRH: And get how fine this is to exteriorize from dead horsehide, not live horsehide.

Female voice: Mm-hm. [high-pitched electronic tone]

PC: Yeah.

Okay. Now untouch it. Now touch it again. There we go. Hope I can take this howl out of here. [electronic howling sound] Different, huh?

LRH: You got that? All right. Now tell me where you’re not in the baseball.

Female voice: How come?

PC: Not in the center of it, not on the seams, not touching it.

Yeah, how come? Okay. You know, that’s probably picking up that howl from this television station that’s right behind us.

LRH: Good. Throw it away.

Okay. Now, we’ve set this needle here, so we got your audio volume on. And got this pointed down to audio and got your audio volume control set properly. And then your oscilloscope-pardon me, your oscillator dial set up here about zero someplace. But the most important thing about it is, is we have this one knob-big knob furthest to the right at the bottom-this big knob is turned just on.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Go awayokay?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now let’s get a very, very old man that you’re exteriorizing from at this moment.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Got him?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Now tell me where you’re not thinking in his body?

PC: Not thinking in his beard, not thinking in his head, in his chest.

LRH: Good. Throw him away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Now let’s be in the place which is most pleasant to you in this life.

PC: Someplace I’ve actually been?

LRH: I don’t care. You’re telling me.

PC: Well, there’s a real nice island in the South Seas.

LRH: Good. You got it?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Got it realgood? Has it got good mass?

PC: Mm, fair.

LRH: Fair. Whydon’t you give it some moremass. Make several duplicates of it and push them into it.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Pretty good?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Better?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Take one of the duplicates out and throw it away. Maybe you had too many there.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Now mock-up two more duplicates and push it in.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Now let’s get a no-island right along side of it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now which is the most pleasant?

PC: The no-island.

LRH: The no-island. Okay. Now let’s be sitting on top of this no-island and get a no-girl, [laughter]

PC: Okay.

LRH: Pretty good?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Now let’s throw all this away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Be three feet back of your head.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: And give me three places you’re not.

PC: on the microphone, not on the right-hand upper thumbtack in the bulletin board.

LRH: Good.

PC: And I'm not in the lower back left-hand corner of the room.

LRH: Good. All right. Now, how’s your certainty now of exteriorization? A little better, a little worse, how?

PC: Much better.

LRH: Much better.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: I wonder what could have made it much better. Well.. . All right. Now be three feet back of your head there and mock-up a set of eyes.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Another set.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Another set.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Another set.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Another set.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now let’s mock-up a set and waste them.

PC: Okay.

LRH: How did you waste them?

PC: Squashed them with a big hammer.

LRH: Good. All right. Now let’s take a set of these and see how beautiful they are to look through.

PC: Yes. But got an idea things could be much more beautiful.

LRH: Yeah? Oh, no. Let’s get how beautiful they are to look through and how it’s just the thing, the thing to have, the thing to do.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: M.m-hm.

LRH: Okay. Now, tell me three things you don’t have to know at this moment.

PC: Don't have to know how many people there are in this room.

LRH: Good. Another one.

PC: Don't have to know what time it is... the exact time.

LRH: Good.

PC: [sighs]

LRH: One more.

PC: Don't need to know what’s happening at the North Pole.

LRH: Good. All right. Tell me three more things you don’t have to know.

PC: Don't have to know what’s going on at the city hall.

LRH: Good.

PC: Don't have to know what the temperature is at the center of the Earth.

LRH: Good.

PC: Don’t have to know whether it’s going to rain five months from now.

LRH: All right. Now give me three things of which you don’t have to be certain. [pause] Give me one.

PC: Having trouble.

LRH: Just one, one thing of which you don’t have to be certain.

PC: Don’t have to be certain what nothing is.

LRH: Okay, [laughter] All right, one more.

PC: I don’t have to be certain of how far it isfrom here to the Sun.

LRH: Good.

PC: Reallydon’t have to be certain of what you re going to do in the next few minutes.

LRH: Okay. Good. All right. Now let’s get three questions you’re not being asked.

PC: I'm not being asked my name. Not being asked where I am.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: And now I'm not being asked what time it is.

LRH: Good. Now be three feet back of your head there and tell me how your certainty and perception is.

PC: Better, but still not very good.

LRH: Not very good. Well, tell me three places you don’t have to perceive.

PC: Don't have to perceive in back of this building.

LRH: Good.

PC: Don I have to perceive on the Moon.

LRH: Good.

PC: Don't have to perceive what’s going on in the Field Museum in Chicago.

LRH: Good. All right. Now, your perception getting a little better or certainty getting a little better there as we go along or...?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Good. Now tell me three places you don’t have to be this very instant.

PC: Don't have to be in Oakland, Don’t have to be in New York. Don’t have to be in Nashville.

LRH: Good. Three more places you don't have to be at this instant.

PC: Don’t have to be in Austin, Texas. Don’t have to be in Rockford, Illinois. Don’t have to be in Newmarket, Ontario.

LRH: Good. And three things now-three more things of which you don’t have to be certain.

PC: I don’t have to be certain of what everybody else is doing.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: What everybody else has.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: A nd of what everybody else’s certainty is.

LRH: Okay. That’s a cagey one.

All right. Give me three places where it wouldn’t be necessary to be in present time.

PC: Well, it’s not necessary to be in Central Drive-In, not necessary to be in Enis Department Store, not necessary to be in the store across the street.

LRH: All right. Give me three things around here close someplace that it isn’t important for you to smell.

PC: Hmmm. It’s not important for me to smell the air outside right now.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Not important for me to smell some garbage can outside.

LRH: Good.

PC: And it’s not important for me to smell what’s on the porch here.

LRH: Good. Now what emotions don’t you have to combat at this moment? Give me three emotions you don’t have to combat at this moment.

PC: Apathy, grief, serenity.

LRH: Good. Now let’s get-that last one’s real good, isn’t it? You don’t ever have to combat it. [laughter]

All right. Give me three things you’re not trying to be at this instant.

PC: I got cat, man and dog.

LRH: All right. Are you trying to be a man at this instant?

PC: I can take a double look at that.

LRH: Well, give me one...

PC: The answer is no.

LRH: Huh?

PC: The answer is no.

LRH: Okay. All right. Now be three feet back of your head and get a body, no matter what kind of a body.

PC: Mock one up?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: And then duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now just continue to duplicate it until you got an awful lot of it.

PC: It r a pitiful looking thing.

LRH: Okay. Get a lot of it.

PC: Actually doesn ’t even have a head.

LRH: Good, [pause] Got lots of them now?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Give them to somebody they’d be acceptable to.

PC: They’d be acceptable to a scarecrow.

LRH: All right. Give them to a scare crow.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Now let’s mock-up a little bit better kind of body.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You as sure of this one?

PC: I'm having difficulty getting it.

LRH: Well, get a worse kind of body.

PC: Okay. This one is just kind of a stick figure.

LRH: All right. Now duplicate it a lot of times.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Great. Now give all those to whoever it would be acceptable to.

PC: May be acceptable to a little boy to play with.

LRH: All right. Give them to him.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now get a much worse kind of body.

PC: [yawns]...[laughs] I get a rounded ball sort of face.''

LRH: All right. Good. Now duplicate it several times.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Who’s that acceptable to?

PC: Hm. Acceptable to some other beings that have round-ball bodies.

LRH: All right. Give it to them.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Okay. Now mock-up your body and blow it up.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mock it up and blow it up again.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Now mock it up and implode it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Mock it up and implode it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Get a nothingness of your body.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw it away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Get a nothingness of the room.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Duplicate it.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Throw them away.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Be three feet back of your head.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: How are you doing?

PC: Better.

LRH: Doing a lot better? Perception any better?

PC: Blackness right now.

LRH: Blackness. But do you have a feeling of...

PC: Yes.

LRH: ...being more in a unit?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Okay. Put a big sphere of blackness around the blackness which you now have.

PC: [laughs] I had to go outside and look at it to make sure it was bigger.

LRH: That a boy! [laughter]

All right. Throw it away and be where you please.

PC: Okay.

LRH: You all right now?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. Grab on to two back anchor points of the room.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Good. End of session.

PC: Thank you.

LRH: Good.

Okay. Any questions about this session? Any new, strange or irrelevant material suddenly show up?

I was using Acceptance Level Processing there, not absolutely necessary, but very interesting. Sometimes on a case like that, why, a person gets a body that’s terribly acceptable to him.

Yes?

Male voice: Was there some reason for sticking to names of auditors who are not auditing you for some reference?

Yes. There was a specific reason. There had been an auditing break on this preclear, an auditing break on George here in the last twenty-four hours, which had spattered him around a little bit. And this person’s name wasn’t coming up, which was why I just kept drum-drum-drum-drum-pound-pound-pound-pound until we finally got the auditor’s name. As soon as we got the auditor’s name, well, we kicked it out.

You see what I was looking for there?

Now that took a long time, didn’t it, George, to unearth? You notice we were-it wasn’t a preclear problem, because we had a fast communication. But it must be an auditor problem because we weren’t getting too much change on the auditor lag. So I changed it off into a present time bracket, more or less. Three auditors that aren’t auditing me and so forth, just so we get shaken up on the subject of auditors a little bit. And we finally get this out.

This is a very indirect method, but a very effective one of recovering sessions and so on.

Another one, with a preclear being a little bit more stable condition, exteriorized, see, a little bit better exteriorization-you just chase him around to all the auditing rooms. And more auditing rooms show up on some preclear that’s been in Dianetics and Scientology. There’s just lots and lots and lots of auditing rooms. And first he finds three of them and then he finds four of them and then he finds eight of them and then he’s got, finally, twenty-five of them and then he’s got thirty-five and then he’s got a couple of hundred. And he’s finally moving around being in this one and that one and the next one and the next and the next and the next, just ziggity-ziggity-zing-a-zing-a-zing-zing.

And then he’s in present time in all of them and says, “What do you know, they’ve redecorated the place.”

Well, as soon as you start to get this kind of a manifestation, you’re snapping him into present time in those places. You’re getting the manifestation of present time elsewhere. See that?

Although the patter I was using on George here was apparently not-although we did have this specific problem we were working out, you generally have a problem you’re working out with a preclear if you’ve done your work well-one kind or another.

Well, although the patter I was using was apparently not very specific and so forth, it was just standard patter. It was varied a little bit here and there and the only process I threw in on him was Acceptance Level Processing. The only reason I threw that in is because he hadn’t yet mentioned that he had a view of his body. So, I was just using this process to get him to mock-up and look at bodies. That’s the only reason we were using that process. Had no deeper significance than that.

Preclear will always read much deeper significance into what you’re doing than what you’re putting there-inevitably.

But the cardinal crime in auditing is to ask somebody where he is. You can ask him Ц if he’s stabilized or if he’s certain he’s outside or something. But “Where are you?” and then start sending him to places when he hasn’t yet answered this question to his own satisfaction...

Now, he has to volunteer the answer to it. I don’t care if it took you fifteen hours, you wait for the guy to volunteer this. And he suddenly says, “You know, I’m sitting right up here in the corner of the room looking down at the whole room.” Okay. So he’s there in the corner of the room. He volunteered the answer. You never ask him for it.

So, you ask him where he’s not, never where he is. You got it?

Female voice: Mm-hm.

Well, we’re late for lunch. Let’s go!