This is the second hour of the night lecture, December 9th.

All right, this is the first hour of the night lecture, December the 9th.

We covered the part force bears in clearing a pc. Now let’s go in over something that we’ve already been over several times, and let’s get the part that space bears.

In this hour I’d like to cover something about flows. You have already had some acquaintance with Technique 80 and Technique 88. If you haven’t, you should have. The book 8-80 is, as I say, the high tide of the Confederacy on agreeing with the MEST universe. It covers flows; it covers dichotomies; it covers how you make energy and covers all sorts of things. It doesn’t cover ‘em to the extreme limit that they can be covered, but they certainly are covered to the level that an auditor should know about them.

We find out that an individual’s concept of his space regulates his concept of density. And his concept of density would be his degree of aberration or his degree of freedom, as the case may be. And we could just arbitrarily divide up the arbitrary scale we call the tone scale, something like this: And, get down here at minus 8 and let’s take that, and let’s find out the gradient scale of space.

But this book is written as though we knew nothing but this kind of processing. It’s written from that viewpoint. And uh… what you should know about flows is that they are of tremendous, unbelievably tremendous concern to your preclear. That’s very interesting.

Now let’s take the first level here of Differentiation. Let’s take down in this band Association, and down in this band and from here down, Identification. Now let’s just take those as three levels. And let’s look at space in relationship to these three things. I give you Korzybski when it comes to a complete, exhaustive dissertation on Differentiation and Identification. You don’t need to study that but you can c… conceive of a fellow who can… you know, the best way I know of to recognize this, is to get some fellow who’s having trouble with his wife and give him some good old straightwire – the First Book covers this, by the way, considerably. We get this fellow who’s having trouble with his wife and get who he has her confused with – just that. And you’ll find out he’ll study around and he’ll study around and he’ll study around and finally he’ll find out that she wears her hair exactly the same as his mother. Or she has a certain mannerism that connects him to an aunt, or Grandma and his wife are confused, and he has attached to his wife everything he has found wrong with Grandma. Ha-ha! And furthermore, his wife won’t do the things he expected from Grandma. That’s a real lovely piece of identification, isn’t it?

He is down scale because he won’t go up scale through the flow bands. It would be wonderful if he could suddenly postulate himself at 40, and then ride it. But if he could postulate himself at 40, he would have to postulate himself at 40. And then to postulate himself at 40 he would have to suddenly postulate himself outside the MEST universe, bang! Because 40 has potentialities and capabilities, but not geographical location.

You’ll find more fellows have married their grandmothers and their aunts and so forth, and the wife isn’t there at all. She isn’t present.

You couldn’t have a 40 who was also even vaguely connected with a body. A 40 wouldn’t be connected with a body – not even vaguely. He wouldn’t be holding on to anything that looked like an object. He wouldn’t have any of these various spatial and possession limitations or necessities or any framework by which to form up a necessity. He could postulate: „Now I will pretend I need something“ but the actuality is that he’d never be able to convince himself that he needed anything.

Well, what do we do? What do we do? We… in the old days we got him to take a look at Grandma and then look at his wife, and we found he was occluded on Grandma. How do we solve that today? Make him create his wife and put her through her paces and even create a body, his own body, out there in a mock-up, and have his wife put that body through its paces. And we go around on this and do the create and uh… alter and destroy cycles, start, change, stop cycles, and so on. We… we do all these things and uh… we find out that the other just sort of clips out.

So look at your preclear… look at your preclear who thinks he needs all sorts of things, and look at your difference between that and 40.

Why? Because all of a sudden he’s gotten action, capability of control in space over an energy form.

Well, the reason your preclear thinks he needs all sorts of things has something to do with a body; is down at the lower band of the scale; is not that he cannot use ideas. It is simply that he is, you might say, like infantry – pinned down by enemy fire. He’s really pinned down! In a most adequate sense, uh… he’s pinned down by flows, because he can’t handle them himself, he escapes back of them.

Now how would we… how would we really get Grandma back? We haven’t been able to ever find Grandma, we know Grandma’s very aberrated… get an E-Meter… every time the E-Meter says uh… we say, „All right, now Grandma,“ and uh… the E-Meter goes „Rrrrrrr.“ You can just feel the brake lining smoke as it stops and sticks. He’s evidently somewhere there on Grandma, and is she solid! Or we get a sudden change of density. He just gets a lot thicker all of a sudden.

Now when I say „flows“ I am being too narrow in that terminology. I should say „ridges, dispersals“ uh… all of those things that constitute manifestations of energy, including „objects.“ Now you might as well say „object“ as say „flow.“ A flow is an object. It’s a particle flow. It’s a flow of particles that has been postulated that something is there and that something is changing. And because there is something there and that something changes, we have „have.“ And out of this you get „time.“

You see, that me… E-Meter registers thickness – density of energy. The denser, the thicker, your preclear is, the less space he has.

Now uh… you just postulate that you’ve got a… a particle, and then the particle is something else in this space in which you’re oriented, and you have an object. There isn’t, really, any difference in the anatomy, except more of it, between a solid object and any bit of energy. The physicist is learning that slowly, but he gets all snarled up every once in a while.

So we say, „All right, now mock up… mock up something which we will now call ‘Grandma’. Okay, we’ve got Grandma. Now we’ll have Grandma go through her paces.“ That is just your standard cycle running, and try to run her upscale – reverse the scale on Grandma, and so forth. ‘Regret’ is the attempt to reverse scale, by the way. ‘Regret’ is the attempt to not have, and reversing scale is to not have by getting space into it.

It was with great shock that he opened up with cyclotrons and found out that an electrical flow had mass, and that an electron had mass. Well, sure it has mass! How the devil did he think it could change in space if it didn’t have mass? This would be the idiocy beyond idiocy, you see, to suppose that there was a whatsis which could exist without a something-sis. That would just he idiotic.

So we just handle this thing.

Now you could say an idea, that’s observable and within experience, can exist without relationship to space or energy. There are ideas floating along the track in this culture which are killers. They’re just ideas, that’s all they are, they’re just floating along. And they’re not floating along in time – that’s because they don’t exist in time. They are carried they are in agreement with people, and therefore being in agreement with people, people – conceiving that they move in time and have to have – suppose the idea to be in motion. Because it’s with them in present time and their havingness in present time is different than the present time which immediately passed.

Now it doesn’t matter whether he gets a pumpkin on a stick or… or uh… whether he gets uh… uh… a skeleton, or whatever he handles that he calls ‘Grandma’; he’ll handle this after a while and he’ll finally realize that there was some possibility he did have a native capability of being able to control the old gal. So he’s willing now to get a pumpkin with a skirt on it, or a skeleton with uh… the typical hairdo Grandma had, or something strange. And you get him to handle this. And if you just went on down the line, the first thing you know he could… he could mock up Grandma three – dimensionally and she’d really be Grandma. And the same time you do this, he could look at all his facsimiles about Grandma too. Don’t even direct his attention to ‘em. He just could do that.

Do you see how easy that is, then, to conceive that an idea… it has motion in it? Well, an idea contained in a mass of energy and inflicted upon the individual out of a mass of energy, and by a mass of energy, isn’t an idea, but an energy pattern, being inflicted by energy – a certain pattern of energy hitting a person.

So we’ve solved those two points. Now just let him stand Grandma up there and stand his wife up there, if necessary, these two mock-ups side by side. Probably by just handling ‘em, you’ve blown all this. But the truth… the final finishing touch would just be: „Look at them. What’s similar about ‘em?“ And the fellow all of a sudden says, „Well, what do you know? They both have flat feet,“ or whatever it is. He has this identification. He’s taken a single point of similarity and he has made it equal to the other point of similarity. You see, they both had flat feet; that made ‘em similar. They both complained about their feet; that made ‘em similar. And he’s closed the gap on this similarity down to a point where there’s a solidity in the fact that we have Grandma-Mama, or Grandma-wife being the same feet. And out of this we get ‘same person’ and out of this we get ‘same behavior’ and out of this we get the same reaction toward ‘em. Well, that’s an identification.

Now this would be what you might call an aberrated idea. All the axioms uh… deal along the line there with uh… homo sapiens and his view of energy. And homo sapiens, in viewing energy, views his ideas as an energy form. Every thought is preceded by an effort; it says – I think it’s Axiom 121 – uh… every effort uh… then will result in some sort of a thought, too – one way or the other.

Now obviously this fellow has no space with regard to them. He’s never been able to cause them to act. That’s one… that’s one: he… he wants Mama to come in and tuck him into bed and she never does. Just let him start on that one. Uh… and… and she… he just never could control her, he never could, he’d be lonesome or he wouldn’t have anything to play with or something of the sort, and he’d want Mama to read to him or something like that, and she… she’d go over and do something else. He tried to say, „Come here“ or „Go there.“

Well, isn’t it interesting that uh… isn’t it extremely interesting that a homo sapiens would be pinned down to that degree? Because he… this is true as far as he’s concerned. You take any thought, almost any thought he has and uh… you can start working with it and it will turn into an effort. In other words, his thinkingness is at the effort band and therefore he’s having a rather rough time of it.

A little baby, by the way, will get completely outraged about this. They have no concept of the idea that they can’t place in time and space at will, because they’re pretty high on the tone scale, although they’re all messed up with trying to learn how to use a MEST body all over again. And uh… you just get the baby reaching for a bottle, and then just arbitrarily move the bottle in some other location. And move it back and forth, and boy! That baby will start to raise more cain than anything you’ve ever seen.

So let’s… let’s take a look, then, at what thought would be. You’d have thought, then, at one end existing without energy, and then you would have thought existing with energy. And let’s just, out of uh… anybody or any being on which energy can make a large effect would be considered to be an aberrated being, so therefore Axiom 121 becomes correct, when we say – I think that’s the number – when we say, „Every aberrated thought is preceded by a counter-effort.“ And that’s true! Because you can run down the track on any aberrated idea a person has and find that idea all wrapped up in energy for which he is taking no responsibility, and which, therefore, has a command value on him.

But let’s feed the baby so we don’t even have hunger as a sort of thing, and then let’s get the baby’s eye on something like the bottle that sparkles or attracts the baby’s attention. And now let’s move it out of reach. The baby will start reaching – move it out of reach. When the baby doesn’t reach for it, make him have it. You could drive him silly. I mean, he’d just go crazy right on. He’d just spin right before your eyes if you were to keep this up continually on and on and on. When he doesn’t want something, make him have it; when he… when he wants something, don’t let him have it. And you’ll just spin him in.

All right, what’s the answer to this? Then we have two categories of thought: There’s the category of thought which you could call the postulate level; and then you could have a… a category uh… which would have to do with uh… an evaluation or uh… a supposition or a play-like sort of a… of an idle speculation or a meaningful speculation or anything like that could be with that postulate. And it would be just a little bracket down from the postulate. And that’d be clear up the tone scale, clear up off of 40.0 – above that. You could have a postulate, then; you could have combinations of things that would add up into postulates and so forth. You could also have sensation up there, because a fellow can postulate a sensation, and he could also postulate that a sensation could exist without energy. Uh… there’s no limitation up there at that band.

Why? Because you’re keying in the whole doggoned track of the MEST universe on him. You’re just dumpin the… the… the whole aberration scale that he has right on his head.

Now let’s come down band and find out what thought is as supposed by homo sapiens. Thought is something that you’d better think about because you would have to pr… propose and resolve problems relating to survival; and you have homo sapiens’ definition of mind. That is a different type of thinking, actually, and a different type of mind because it plots itself against time.

So he wasn’t able to command, control or locate, or even get into a reasonable agreement with, the control and location of Mama in time and space. He’ll stand for a lot, but ordinarily he cannot control this factor and in view of the fact…

Time has to have a havingness; has to be space and energy to have time. And so therefore you have the postulates and evaluations way up here could exist without time. You… you could do anything with that because you’re integrating and you’re multiplying and you’re adding into the formula of thinking; you’re adding zero. So one equals two, and so on. There isn’t any time factors involved in that. And when we come down tone scale, the mind of homo sapiens poses and relates problems relating to survival.

And by the way, I should define ‘control’ for you. Control is simply locating something in time and space. Creation would be uh… locating something to control – or creating something to control.

Then what is the mind at the theta level doing? You could say it’s amusing itself. You could say it’s uh… it’s postulating purpose so that it will have purpose. But it’s not a driven activity. And thought, to Man on the level that we first had it in Dianetics – that’s perfectly correct, that material, by the way. That is Man; that’s how he thinks, and so on. The Axioms describe that activity. It is a process which is a driven process. You sit homo sapiens down and feed him full of food and give him everything which he wants and you don’t pose any problems in his road, and so forth. He doesn’t stop thinking, but he starts speculating. He starts sort of postulating and fooling around and so forth. He isn’t idle uh… mentally, but he’s still doing a bridge type of thing. He’s trying to think above 40.0, and he’s actually existing lower on the scale than that.

And uh… he isn’t able to do that and so what happens? By golly! She goes out as a perceptic. Goes right on out on a pers… I was going to say, when it goes out in terms of perspective. She goes out in terms of PERCEPTIC. And this vanishment is because she has gone out in terms of perspective. He can’t control his viewpoint where she is concerned. He cannot control then, he figures, any space in which this character has been, which is all around him. And he can’t control the force and can’t control the location and it gets awful solid and the next thing you know, it’s just energy he can’t handle. You see, it’s a body of energy, a collection of particles. And so he says, „I can’t therefore view it.“ So you get an occlusion on the track. Isn’t that interesting?

But if you want a man to think… homo sapiens to think, take a whip. Get a machine out of repair. Get something intimately related to survival going haywire, and homo sapiens will think. At the level of homo sapiens it is true that necessity is the mother of invention. Above 40.0 there is no necessity. Immediately that sometimes goes against somebody’s grain, when they recognize that above 40.0 we don’t… we don’t have this… this drive, drive of necessity.

All right, what do we get then in terms of identification? Identification is quite black ordinarily. Now we get Mama or Grandma, or somebody like that. He hasn’t been able to handle that… that mass of energy. And in view of the fact that he hasn’t been able to handle it, control it, something like that, it buries itself. Well, now it buries itself. He’s immediately saying, „I can’t take responsibility for it.“ He can’t take responsibility for it because „It’s cause and I’m an effect. Well, if it’s cause and I’m an effect, I don’t want anything to do with it, and the best thing to do is just shut that thing off completely.“ So he takes no responsibility for the vision or anything else. Saying, „No responsibility for the vision“ is just exactly the same as saying, „I don’t want anything to do with that force. That force can master me.“

Then they’d say, „Well, you wouldn’t get anything done.“

No responsibility is the inability to handle force. Responsibility is the ability to handle force in the MEST universe. And that is the definition of responsibility and that’s all there is to it.

„Well, why do you want to get something done?“ Well, uh… you see, it’s uh… – Man trying to think about 40.0 puts it back into the framework of homo sapiens. Well, we’ve got homo sapiens’ framework pretty well nailed down and uh… you look at that, „Yeah, yeah.“ So just w… watch this when you’re processing a preclear; watch him come up scale. He will do more and more of speculation without MEST universe reason, he will do more and more thinking without MEST universe reason connected with it. No driven thought. The driven thought starts dropping out and simply postulate level and „What-if’s“ and „Let’s play likes“ uh… will start drifting in. And uh… you get more and more of that as you go up scale.

Now… so we get this solid pack idea of identification. Therefore, anything that comes along that vaguely relates to this commanding energy, the energy which handled him which was Mama and which is now in the engram bank as Mama, we’ll get the engram bank identified with Mama or Grandma, or whoever it is. We get that bank identified with them and anything else that moves into present time throws the bank into restimulation and actually will handle him in the same way. And he can’t identify the difference between one and the other because he’s got ‘em in identification. He is identifying, that’s the trouble with him. He identifies Mama alright. What we want to do is differentiate Mama.

Well, this thing would break, theoretically, and the person would be relatively free of being driven around 24, 25, 26 on the tone scale – up in that hand up there. His space would be so adequate and his needs would be so lacking in needfulness, that he could do a great deal of fooling around without getting into very much trouble.

Now, we start moving it up the line and the occlusion disappears and so on, and we get into a degree where he can see that they are just similar. They vaguely associate one with the other, and there’s just this similarity and you could actually interpose what? Space! You put space into action there. And the form that Mama is, is no longer packed tight. It’s… it’s gotten space in it. And other things don’t pack in with it. You’ve got space in there again.

Now there’s no necessity to be right. Uh… there’s no penalty for being wrong; uh… there isn’t any „hit or God-help-us“ level of survival going on. We… we aren’t… we aren’t running along at the tick of o’clocks, and uh… when it gets to be such and such o’clock, that’s uh… that’s uh… such and such a period of havingness one „have’s“ uh… at the dinner table. And when it gets to be the next period of havingness, one „have’s“, and then one works through the next 48 hours so that one can „have,“ and uh… he… he… he works hard. And then he gets some havingness so that he can „have.“ In other words, he’s just got lots of this sort of thing.

So you get up the line up here, and when a fellow’s really free, he can create space. He can make space open up and close up around these things.

And if he… if he runs into a long period of „not-have’s“ why he gets skinny and he doesn’t do so well and they bury him. So you… you see how this plots? As you regulate havingness you would be regulating the driven characteristic of thought. And havingness is a sort of a driven way of thinking about things.

One of the interesting exercises is to put a couple of anchor points out here on either side of some object he’s created, he’s got that, and then make it get bigger by expanding the anchor points. If you keep doing it, it just gets into smoke. It is practically… gets to be smoke and that’s all, ‘cause you’re putting more and more space per particles… unit particle.

Now what pins him down is, just that: it’s, just havingness.

Now there’s association: Association is logic.

Now when you jump this fellow out of his body, get him to Theta Clear, he is still not adequate in his handling of energy and he will keep on banging back against the body and… and still being part of a MEST group and he’ll caroom off the walls, so to speak, and fool around and fool around and fool around – unless you recognize where you’re going and what you’re doing. You’re trying to bring him up above the level of driven thought. And it would be only fair to say that an individual becomes an… unaberrated when he ceases to be in the driven thought band.

Well now, there’s differentiation at one end and identification at the other end. And logic sits in between. Uh… what’s this business then of finding the common denominator of all of these other things? Finding all these common denominators and so forth? Well, you’re actually identifying so you can pull to pieces again. You’re… you’re showing, „Now look: these things are related to this degree. Now we can bring them up into association. And now we can bring them up into complete differentiation.“

Necessity is the mother of invention. It is also the mother of aberration. When he hasn’t a necessity to drive, or when his necessities are so easily fulfilled that uh… you get a complete fluidity about it all, he’s gone up above your action band.

When you start to differentiate, you have looked over this, you find a common denominator to any problem – it will actually be up in a high band. The common denominator is in the high band because you can take it then, and build down into an identification with it. So you can go both ways on this thing, and your association can be… I mean, your… your uh… common denominators can be top scale or bottom scale.

But don’t think that just because he goes up the pole and gets ecstatic and starts spinning like a spinning mouse uh… that he has suddenly achieved this goal. There is the phenomenon known as „going up the pole.“ That’s when somebody doesn’t even begin to handle energy, but he just suddenly, somehow or other, latches on to about 40.0 and goes out the top and still holds on to the MEST body at the bottom, and he’s done the incredible thing of making a circle out of all this: he’s joined 0.0 up against 40.0 and to listen to the guy and to talk to the guy, you couldn’t really tell whether he’s ecstatically alive or fatally dead. He’s a terrible state of confusion. This is „going up the pole.“

What we’re studying is: What series of postulates would you make to cause the MEST universe? So we’re studying this thing from… from up here at uh… point Observer.

You can get some people with such a terrific drive of inspiration. Sometimes you will get an idea and this idea will give you a little surge up the pole. And you’ll… you’ll just – bing-zing – and you feel real good and you’re happy and carrying on. Now you can count on it if you get it while encumbered with all this MEST, that this MEST is going to reach out and in three hours or three days or three months or three – well, it’s… I’ve never seen one last longer than three months uh… pull you back right down into the grind. And you say, „Well, I… I found what that ecstacy was once, but that was quite a while ago, and then I learned that one had to be more practical about things,“ and there you go.

What’s this silly series of isolated postulates that differentiate everything in the MEST universe? What postulates are they? Well, you’ve got the first postulate in Q-l. And uh… that is that uh… you’ve said that… you’ve said it could locate in space and time. You’ve said, „Well, we can create space and we can create particles, and we can get action this way. Well, I agree… agree… agree… agree.“ It doesn’t mean that that’s all theta can do at all! Or even vaguely! We’ve just got the highest level that we can get there and uh… have a MEST universe. We can have any kind of a universe we want to if we go on to that point ‘X’ Observer and looked down, and made another postulate. Let’s make the postulate that the capability of theta is to produce solid matter, uh… capability is to produce solid matter which then will create space. Anything. I don’t care how backwards it would be. You could think and think and figure and figure and all of a sudden you could figure out how a universe could operate that way. You could make it operate.

So what’s… that’s the thing that uh… what’s the difference? Well, lend me your ears. Look: Driven thought is driven home by energy. And your thetan, even though you pushed him through a very small knothole, will still have all of his ridges and his various histories and energy patterns connected there unto him. If you looked at him on a plot, you couldn’t even vaguely get him on a plotting board. He is big. These ridges and deposits of energy and so forth, go out just ad infinitum.

Now this goes from the Observer, then, into high complexity, because from the time you get down here to identification, it… it’s really very complex. It’s all solid and there’s not much space. AND EVERYTHING IS IDENTIFIED. You say, „This is… this is hydrogen. That is gold. Something or other is that. This is a body. Uh… this is a swamp. That is a planet. This is an asteroid.“ We’ve got classification by object.

The best way to test this, and this is s… something you can amuse yourself with sometime, is to start shooting ridges-by velocity. Just pick up velocity of flow and start going through the first bands of ridges immediately near the preclear. Then pick up some more velocity; it gives you the formula in ridge-running, how to do this. Just extend it further. And get him going through with velocity, this bank, that bank, next bank, next bank, next ridge, next ridge. And all of a sudden he’s saying, „You know something?

You want to how NOT to find out about the physical universe? Classify it by object. German classification as the modus operandi and the only way to go about it would have led into deeper and deeper and deeper MEST. And it would have become more and more solid and more and more cumbersome and more and more cumbersome, and more and more solid. Until one day, with the solidity, the bottom falls out.

It… it’s just… it just goes way on out. Oh, I’m out here miles. That flow just went for miles and miles and miles.“ He’s not at the outermost limit of his own activity, because once… once upon a time he was pretty big and he still remembers it out there at that distance. He was big once. And he can still hit those ridges out there.

You get differentiation and association in space. That means restoration of space, then, is the key to this thing, hmm?

Well, here’s this tremendous mass of energy. What are you going to do? Be the complete idiot and… and… and uh… electric shock him or something and get this energy off? Well, there isn’t any energy manufactured in this MEST universe that compares to theta-manufactured energy. And by the way, when I… when I said, „Would you be idiotic an… and give him electric shock, something like that, I didn’t mean any aspersion against psychiatry. You understand that. I… I’m in complete propitiation against psychiatry and uh… uh… uh… in… I… I uh… I realize that uh… that our survival depends completely on getting the medical profession and psychiatry to agree with us. And we wouldn’t be able to survive unless we did that. And after the material we covered this afternoon, this demonstrates completely why we should go around seeking somebody to agree with us.

All right, let’s take uh… find out how Start has to do with that. Now Start can exist there and this could exist in Change, and this can exist down here in Stop. But, you say, that stuff down there is in motion. Well, that’s true – that’s true. That… that’s down at 0.0. Uh… you’ve got objects which are in motion. They’re not true statics at all. They become dead as far as theta is concerned. And all of these scales are viewed from the viewpoint of theta and its capabilities. Don’t try to view this picture from the standpoint of MEST.

All right. We get this velocity line way out there, and we find out this fellow’s got lots of energy on him. You’re not going to take it off artificially. The best way they do it between lives – here… you can, by the way, find facsimiles on that thing that are 74 trillion years old – MEST universe havingness. That’s… that’s been around for quite a while. And mind you, this fellow’s gone through electronic incidents. He’s gone through between-lives implants, he’s been… he’s been psychotherapized. He’s been stupidificated uh… in any bracket you could think of. And what do you know? The between-lives: All… all they do, you see, instead of trying to erase engrams – they didn’t know how to erase any engrams. They… that’s the wonderfullest gimmick you ever saw in your life: There’s… there’s… there’s a little… by the way, did you ever see these circular file card things where you lay off one file card at a time on a circle? Well, supposing each one of those file cards had a picture on it and were spinning toward you, and then spinning away from you. It would certainly look like you were being presented with all the scenery of your life, wouldn’t it? I mean, if there were scenes on this sort of thing, you’d see these scenes in front of you. And then they’d go away and then they’d recede. And you’d say automatically, „Why those things are all erased.“ If you were told that forcefully enough, and if those scenes were general enough, and if those things did look enough like the environment in which you had recently lived, you would say, „Well, yes, sir! That’s… just… just look at that stuff! I mean, that’s erasing all of my memory of this whole thing.“

Now if we looked from here up, we look from identification… everything… we say, „Now look. We’ve got to identify this and we’ve got that identified, and we’ve got something or other identified. We try to look up from here to 40.0. Oh, no! I’m sorry. It just uh… it just gets to be too airy. It’s just thin and airy, and you look high enough and there’s nothing there. And Man’s been doing that just uh… since… for ages and ages and ages. You run preclears, „If I just could find out the secret of the MEST universe, I could have put my own back together again and I guess I’ve been worried about it ever since.“ You get this off of preclears.

Now actually, there’s a gimmick like that, and on these pictures… oh, you could get a preclear to run this, he’d go half screwy. Every once in a while he gets a visio. By the way, you’ve got to know about this. I’m not telling you this stuff for sensationalism, although it’s very sensational, I suppose. Uh… uh… prefrontal lobotomies aren’t, you see. I mean, that’s common, that’s routine. But this stuff: Too sensational.

You say, „What are you really worried about?“ or something like that, and the E-meter’s falling, and you say, „Well, your own home?“

Anyway, every once in a while you get your preclear with a stuck visio, and it isn’t a visio. And very often it’s a visio that happened to him, and all that sort of thing. I mean, that’s usually the case. But all of a sudden you… he’s got a visio and it’s a winter scene. And it doesn’t relate to anything he ever saw and he says, „I wonder if this is a past life of mine, or… or what this is?“ and you process him for a little while and he’s got this visio back again. And you process him for a little while and he’s got this visio back again. And it shows a big… it looks something like… well, it possibly looks uh… uh… who are those characters that had all the lithographs here on Earth? Currier and Ives, yeah. I’ll have to read up on Earth and get a little more accustomed.

And the guy says, „No, I’m… yeah. I’ve always been worried about the house. I don’t want to leave it.“

Anyway… anyway, Currier and Ives snow scene. He’ll be sick of it after a while. He’s stuck in a between-lives wipeout, and it’s one that fell this way and he can’t bring himself to believe that it wiped out because it connected up with some valuable snow scene memory in his last life. And when this thing came up, why it suddenly clicked past and he looked at it and he says „Oh gee. That sure reminds me of Bessy.“ Rroom! And he’s got it right there, and it’s in balance. Like a mock-up, you see?

And you say, „Well, uh… sort of like a little world to you, isn’t it?“ Whamm! And you say, „It’s interesting you don’t like to stray far from it. What are you… what’s the matter? You afraid something will happen to it when you…“ WHAAMMM!

The mock-up will often lock up when it strikes too close to a MEST universe actuality. If you’re having lots of trouble with some mock-up sometime, it might not be your preclear’s ability at all: It’s just you’ve insisted on mocking up his mother when you should have been mocking up something that had a pumpkin for a head, you see? I mean, he… he… he couldn’t handle this mock-up. And the reason he couldn’t is every time he starts to handle the mock-up, he begins to think it’s his own facsimile. And then he doesn’t know whether he’s handling the facsimile of mother or a mock-up of mother. And if he can’t make up his mind about those, you’ve locked him up in a maybe; when you’ve got him all messed up in this maybe, then of course he’s in an uncertainty and an uncertainty… and a state of uncertainty, an unbeingness are the same state. So he can’t handle the mock-up. Just make him sure that he turn that facsimile enough colors and enough idiocies in it or enough changes in it until he’s completely sure that it’s his facsimile… his own creation, pardon me. And that it is not a real universe facsimile.

Well, you could run out houses until you were blue in the face. But if you just start to mock up houses, in a lot of preclears that you run, you’ll all of a sudden get this tremendous spaciousness. You… you… the guy’s looking at a plain or he’s looking out here at a tree, or… or… a… a world that’s flat, or something. He… he’s looking at this plain. And you say, „Now we were trying to mock up houses. Now let’s… let’s get down to cases on this. Now let’s mock up houses again.“

All right, this… this stuff going by under his nose, clickety clickety clackety clickety clickety, and he’s in the between-lives area and he’s sitting there, and then all of a sudden the whole thing goes „Whirr“ and he sits over to the right of it. And he says, „What do you know? My life disappeared.“ And then it goes „Whirr“ and he’s sitting over to the left of it, and he says „What do you know? My life disappeared.“

And the guy mocks this up, and he says, „I keep getting this plain, and that’s about all I wanna mock up.“ He gets real interested in this, and he feels all kind of griefy, and he gets kind of upset. There are many things that lead him into this. He’ll tell you… some of the most esoteric things are responsible for this state of mind, until you suddenly spring the one „home universe“ on him. „Eeeowwwww!“ It was a universe he and several others, or just himself, built once.

Well, you know, those between-lives implants are in and sometimes they… sometimes he’s been turned this way and sometimes he’s been whirred the other way, and sometimes they’ve been fed in that-a-way, because he didn’t care which end was up, you see?

One preclear had a home universe which consisted of simply one thought pool. They had fixed up a sort of a place and they’d just sit there and look in the pool. And one day the pool turned black and they couldn’t figure out why the pool turned black. And they sat there and sat there, and what do you know? Seventy-four trillion years later, in a session, in Scientology, we found this preclear. For all intents and purposes she was still sitting alongside of the thought pool. She sort of dragged it along with her and sort of hid it behind her back. And that was the case in her… her case. If she just could have found the secret of the MEST universe. She kept thinking about this, „If I could just know the secret of this, and what had happened to that pool, why it would have been all right. But then one day I found it out and I told somebody and they really gunned me down or they did something to me, but after that it was too late and it didn’t matter,“ or something of this sort. Very sad.

And these silly implants, he… he starts shifting, and he’ll suddenly get views of himself over here. And you’ll run into this when you start creating mock-ups with him, or something like that. He’ll occasionally sort of get an odd idea of views of himself, in clothes that he didn’t have any idea of at all. And you’ll say, „You’re out of your body“ and he’s looking at this thing and he isn’t sure what’s happening. Oh, it’s just very fascinating.

Uh… you’ll… one time a preclear of such a history in processing uh… oh, a violent, violent distaste for anything like past lives or anything like that! Oh, no! And uh… I saw this on the E-Meter and ran this on the E-Meter. So uh… we suddenly hit the word ‘stars’ and we got nothing but this: „The day the stars fell down.“ And she cried and she cried and she cried. This person had never spilled a grief charge. And this person just cried and cried and cried and cried. And then she’d utter that phrase again and she’d get this visio. It was the day the home universe caved in. The MEST universe had overlapped and with a dull crash, that was the end of the home universe.

It also tells you something else: Those pictures on that file card machine are usually within a half a century of the knockout. Somebody was around with a camera, folks. And that’s… that’s oh… he… then he conceives his life to be wiped out and he’s a new being. And it’s very astonishing. This guy claims he’s never had… he can’t remember anything about his past life and you strain and sweat over this thing. Do mock-ups of little spinning wheels like this and Llama prayer wheels and tie pictures on ‘em and do other things with it. And he’s liable to get a horrible feeling in his head suddenly and all of a sudden say, „I wonder what ever did happen to my classmate Joe.“

And so a viewpoint up here, looking down at this, we can see what’s going on. But if we try to keep on viewing this thing from MEST and holding on to MEST while we go ahead and do this, and so on, it’s not so good.

And you say uh… „Oh, your university, huh?“

Now when we say, „Start, change and stop,“ we actually could write right here, „Start – change – stop,“ see? We could uh… just have those just a little bit on the scale. Just this little tiny gradient here at the place marked „2“ here. Have this little gradient, Start-change-stop. And as we go down there we… we see that there’s a slight drop – oh, just one of these little emotional curves. And that’s what an emotional curve is: Starts something, changes, stops.

„No, no – no this was uh… this is the good old space academy.“ And you say, „When was this?“

The fellow who thinks he’s still operating this universe can get Start. He still thinks he’s operating his home universe, he’ll get Start. And all of a sudden things will get three-dimensional to him. He’ll get Start – he’ll get things three-dimensional. And then you say, „All right, change it,“ and it’ll – „not quite so much.“ And then, „Stop,“ and it goes „Flap!“

And he says, „Oh, I don’t know, compared to present time. I just happened to think of Joe, that’s all. He’s a good friend of mine. I wonder where Joe is.“

Most of you people with bad eyes think the whole environment’s holding against their face. They have no space points.

And you… E-Meter – and he starts thinking this over.

So we get this Start, Change, Stop. And there’s two reasons for this: In one’s own universe, all he had to do was say, „Let’s do it,“ and uh… that happened. There’s nothing to that. There was no balk. But in this universe, he could start something very easily, but to change it became a little harder, and to stop it practically became impossible. So he gets quite upset. He’s still trying to run his own universe.

And he says, „Gee, you know that was over a million years ago!“

So we get this Start, Change, Stop. And we get it for that reason. But there’s a deeper reason than this, and it’s simply this reason: Start, Change, Stop on the big scale. Of course, you have three-dimensional visio when you say, „Start it.“ That’s space. ‘Start’ and ‘space’, for this universe, are synonymous. So when you get visios you can always conceive of starting something, you have space. Then you tell your person, when he’s mocking up things, you say, „All right, now change it,“ and he has a little more trouble with it and it sort of wants to cave in on him. He started it all right. He had it way out there. He had it out there about 30 feet. And it was just fine, and you say, „Change it,“ and this thing shows! It’s going to start coming back in on him again. And you say, „Stop,“ and then my golly! He just can’t hold it out there.

He’s hit some sort of a between-lives wipeout in other words, and it’s wiped on – bong! And he’s got that life and this life then… incredibly enough, it will spark up a person’s memory, just snap, if you run one of these things.

Now you say, „All right. Now let’s mock up this thing, and now let’s… let’s uh… let’s make it walk to the right. Now let’s stop it. And every time he starts to stop it, he find it’s sticking on his nose practically. It just flies in and hits him.

Well, what do you know? Even that kind of treatment, or even the kind of treatment of sitting him in the chair and… and just… by the way, there’s waves there, flows hit him when he’s in that position. He is swept into this place with flows. He is pinned down with flows. He’s gone away from there with flows. He’s shot back here again with flows.

Why is this? It’s because Stop at 0.0 has no space, and Start at 40.0 does have space. You see why this is? Be… and differentiation is simply the distance between the particles. When you have all the particles on one point, so to speak, you’ve got identification; and when they’re just a short distance from one another so you get some sort of a battery action amongst ‘em – a mild battery action – they trickle through. You can think consecutively: add up, subtract, run this facsimile into that facsimile, cook up a new one, pour into the cook’s stove and boil it up real hot and serve it out as a geometry. Uh… and you get more particle distance in it where there’s no interaction between these points, and we get, of course, difference. Well a particle is different from another particle just simply because it is located in a different point of space, that’s all. And we get thinking, then, can be very airy. I mean, the fellow can think about this particle for a while, and he can think about that particle.

It’s very interesting, I mean, the what… the way they use flows.

Now, hold your hats, because there’s a higher drill than differentiation. You’ve got to be willing to use force. And the postulates that you get down lower scale are pretty interesting, but they get enforced by force. But you can actually do this drill and improve the ability of a person to run mock-ups very fast. A lot of you have asked, „What… what about… what about getting a concept of this dog. I can just get this concept of this dog marvelously, but I don’t see a dog.“ No. No good – not a mock-up. A mock-up has a location in time and space – not a thought. You’re thinking of thinking of a dog… you’re thinking of seeing a dog, not seeing a dog or perceiving a dog.

And not all of that! Not even things like… like hitting a fellow with mega… uh… volts and so on, wipe out these ridges! You’ll find all this stuff on these ridges. It’s fabulous! Every man is carrying a very complete history of himself with the things sufficiently messed up because of the agree“, and „have“ and „when I want I can’t have“ and „when I… when I can’t have I want“ and… and that sort of thing interplaying, blocking these things out. He… he’s got a complete history of himself. It’s a completely unimportant history of himself. You don’t care anything about that history of himself. It’s just his identity in the MEST universe, and it isn’t even very adventurous. And it’s… the sensation on it’s kind of poor.

What’s indicated there? Black and White Control Processing! And I don’t mean by running black and white now. I mean you mock up a black point in front of the preclear with his eyes open or closed. He finally gets to a point where he can see this black point no matter how small, no matter how big. He can SEE something in front of him. And you ask whether or not you should see these things in your imagination or see ‘em actually. Well, they… they look awfully thin when you first start, but you actually see them. You… you… you know when they’re there and you know when they’re not there: That’s the criteria of it. „Do you know that thing’s there? Do you feel that it’s gone when it’s gone? Do you… when it’s there do you know that it’s there?“ That’s about it. Rather than the thinness of the perceptions.

There’s more… there’s better stuff earlier. But those ridges are sitting here. And those ridges are sitting out there five feet, and they’re sitting out there 30 feet, and on in. And his history of the MEST universe is sitting on top of these ridges. These big ridges are held up in front of him. He actually has something on this is… calling matrixes. You have a uh… there… there’s actually a network up here, and there’s the one type of facsimiles on one side of it and another type of facsimiles on the other side of the thing. The fellow’s built himself up a beautiful energy scheme. And here it sits. And nothing has wiped it out. Sometimes… sometimes somebody will blow one, or explode one or change the position of one, or cave in one of these ridges on the fellow, or… or something like that will happen. But the destruction as compared to the bulk of material present is minimal. Something like scratching a fender on your car. Nothing to it.

The fellow… fellow will feel this sudden surge or something when he knows this thing’s gone, when he knows it’s there, when he knows it went into yesterday, something like that. You… you’re figuring for that positiveness.

Well, what do you suppose? You don’t… you don’t think then that you’re suddenly going to get this preclear to postulate that he’s at 40.0 without going through the steps of him being able to handle energy, do you, and have him be clear and stay that way? No sir! Because until he can learn to handle force completely and utterly, he is unable to handle his ridges. And if, he could handle force completely and utterly, he could blow this whole shooting match. And then and there, and only then and there, would these things cease to have the effect upon him of command and necessity and demand thinking. Then his mind’s free.

All right, let’s just drill with a grey spot on the wall… or a black spot on the wall, and let’s move it no matter how slightly to the left, no matter how slightly to the right, no matter how far up, no matter how far down. And let’s turn it a color, or let’s increase it in size and let’s drill with little black spots and little white spots and big black spots and big white spots. And move ‘em around in time, space. Put out a couple of anchor points and put the spot in there. Deal with that simple geometric figure. And deal with it and deal with it till all of a sudden the fellow heaves a sigh of relief and he says, „Ahh! You know? I believe I can see something!“

We’re actually doing the same thing we were trying to do with BOOK ONE. We’re trying to wipe out this energy which has messages on it which gets enforced by physical pain. Only the physical pain, as it turns out to be an electronic type flow. We’re still trying to do the same thing – we just understand it better and it’s a lot fancier. And the process is a lot simpler. But the end goal on it is the same thing. And that’s: Let’s knock out every single cockeyed engram this guy’s got.

That’s very fascinating. There’s all kinds of variations of this drill. You take the black spot. All right, now cut it in half and move the two halves in opposite directions. That’s kind of complicated. Now turn just one of them into a cross. Now turn the other one into a cross. Now turn the first one you turned into a cross back into a circle. See, it’s just control. You’re practicing on control on a mock-up.

You want experiences? The time to have experience is now, and will have – not did have. An experience that you DID HAVE is no good to you. Really isn’t even good data. You could probably sit down and figure out better data. What’s it appertain to? It appertains to you. So you dig up the past life experience. Now you need to know how to make iron in Upper Bavaria. That’s great. It’s just what you needed!

And that… imagination isn’t good enough. You have to… you actually… what is indicated, if a person is doing this, or if a person is worried about imagining it; if he can imagine it all right but he can’t see it and this is worrying him, start him in at the bottom of the energy scale, which is black and white spots. If he can’t see a black and white spot after a lot of figuring, if he can’t get some kind of a flicker – somewhere – with his eyes open or his eyes closed or something like that, ask him to see if he can conceive a little bit of space – by putting out a couple of dimensions. And if he can’t do that um… in imagination, at least let him locate the anchor points in the room he’s sitting in. And if he’s gone down to that level, he will receive quite a shock when he locates the anchor points of the room he’s sitting in.

One preclear all of a sudden… he’s sitting on the chair, starts to go this way, I thought for heaven’s sake! And he said, „What do you know?“ „Gee,“ he said, „I spoke very good sign language, very good sign language“ – he was born in New York City. This guy… I don’t know how he ever wandered East again. I guess on the prevailing westerly winds. Uh… but he had spoke this uh… spoke an excellent sign language hack there about the middle of the eighteenth and the beginning of the nineteenth century. And he’d all of a sudden recovered his total bank of sign language. Now isn’t that fascinating? I mean, that’s JUST what he needed. A communications system that’s as dead as the leaves of yesterday. Oh, I guess it would be interesting. You could have Hopalong Cassidy, take three or four of the signs and do them in a movie, but uh… they’ve got a book on it. The book is wrong, but they’ve got a book on it.

You think, just because you can see them, that he does. He thinks he’s seeing them, but he actually hasn’t located them at all, or they don’t exist for him or he coils at the thought of putting out anchor points. So this is your gradient scale of how you move in on energy. You’ll find out uh… by the way on… on this, it’s… it’s very amusing what you can do to give the fellow the difference of concept on anchor points.

That’s very funny, by the way. The guy really did know sign language. And he was from the lower East Side New York. I know something about sign language. It was fascinating all of a sudden to see him waving his hands around and going through „may the sun shine brightly in your eyes“ and so on.

Now, let’s get Start, Stop and Change on a chain of thought. Start, Change and Stop on a chain of thought. Let’s start a guy thinking about some thought or other on some subject. Now let’s increase the amount of thinking he’s doing. Now let’s decrease the amount of thinking he’s doing. Now let’s stop. Now let’s pick the chain up he was thinking about just before you started processing him, let’s decrease it and uncreate it. That is to say, stop it again.

But anyhow, data – data is of very little good to you. You can pervade and approximate and get data faster than you can remember it. You want to know all about a machine? Just look at the machine and own it for a minute and you’ll be all through the machine suddenly, pervade it. And you all of a sudden say „All the working parts of the machine.“ Now you really want to inspect this machine and take it apart? Why worry about MEST? Go out here… you’ve got a mock-up of it? Now, take the mock-up apart and look it over.

Let’s work until the preclear can start thinking about anything. Increase his thinkingness about it, decrease his thinkingness about it, and stop thinking about it.

Isn’t that interesting? That’s the way that thing spells on the principle of hydrogenation. Must have been designed by the US uh… Forestry Service or something of the sort.

Let’s work until he can start out thinking about guitars. All right. He thinks a little harder about guitars. Now he changes from thinking about – change is in there too, you see – he changes thinking about guitars to thinking about guitar strings. Now he decreases thinking about guitar strings, then he stops thinking about guitars. Rrrrrrrrr.

Uh… that… that’s right. And uh… you know, a very little practice… a very small amount of practice, you could take practically any piece of machinery and without reading its label, once you know how to do this, you can tell people where and when it was manufactured. And if you’re real good you could tell them the name of the chief mechanic that built it. I mean, the data is there to that minute a detail.

You would be amazed what will happen to some preclears. You say, „All right, and let’s start thinking about cars. Okay, fella. All right, now let’s think a little bit more about cars. Now let’s change to thinking about car tires. Now let’s decrease our thinkingness about car tires. Now let’s stop thinking about it.“

Do you know that you can read a book that you know not the language of and never knew the language of simply by reading the meaning that the last person that read it put on it? Sounds silly, doesn’t it? But it’s true. You just don’t read the letters. Just read to the… just read to the depth of the energy deposit of the… by the way, what you mostly get is… is the disagreement the fellow had with the book.

„All right, now let’s start in thinking about…“ And you keep it up, at that rate the fellow can just feel his brakes start smoking on some of these lines.

Now those… those all sound… those all sound wild and incredible. You’ll be doing them one of these days. And… and you can… a lot of you can do them now, and… and you won’t think anything about it at all. It’ll be routine. But don’t try to tell anybody, and don’t let your preclear tell you at any moment, that all he has to do is simply rise to the high and beautiful plane of pure thought, without anything ever having any effect on him again in the line of energy. Bull!

„Now let’s think about a guy you don’t like. Now let’s increase the thought about it. Now let’s decrease the thought about it. Now let’s stop thinking about him.“

He’s got to be able to handle that energy. Otherwise the energy can command him. And that’s the trick of this universe – is, you command the energy, or it commands you! If you want to command this universe, it is a universe of space and energy. And if you want to command it, you’ve got to be able to command space and energy.

Oh, boy! You can… you can see the brake fluid squirt out of his ears, sometimes, when he tries to stop some of these chains of thought.

A universe of your own might also come down to a manufacture by space and energy. It might do that. Doesn’t have to, but if it did you’d certainly better know how to control space and energy. And if you made a universe of your own and you made it just in… just like… no energy in it, no space, you didn’t go by these things, or you had 88 dimensional space, or some darned fool thing, boy, you’d better know how to handle energy!

What you’re doing… what you’re doing is just working with the control of association when you’re doing that – mostly, associative thinking, and you’re doing it on this little band here, rather than on a large band.

Some day somebody will show up and he’s got a new gimmick on the subject of energy, and he’ll take a look at this nice new universe you’ve got there and pick up the agreement level and he’ll say, „Well, here we go. I think that uh… yeah, I… I like this. I’ll have it.“

Now you get all sorts of pictures and mock-ups and everything when he does this, quite ordinarily, but he isn’t paying any attention to them. You just want him to get his time factors in there.

And you say, „You know, there’s a funny thing, but back in the MEST universe we had a habit… system by which that person who had to have something always found it disagreeing with me“ – POW! Discourage him in it.

Now you could do at it… more… „Now let’s think of a big, wide space. All right. Now let’s change it. Now let’s think of a little, bitty cooped-up place. All right, now let’s… let’s… let’s change it into a nicer place. Now let’s think of a big wide space.“ You’ve got the guy on up the tone scale. And he’ll generally laugh or smile or feel pleased about it.

All right. Therefore, I hope you get this much more clearly on why energy stands as a… a barrier – the sinister barrier – between aberrated thought and being free to do anything you please with thought. Now it’s an easy barrier to cross – extremely easy to cross as long as you actually cross it. You can cross it in a mock-up. I mean, you get way up scale and you don’t realize you’ve gotten this far up scale and… and one night you’re walking home and you’re sort of – you… you haven’t any thought really on the subject of this universe. I mean, you’ve just been going along. Maybe at the same time you’ve been holding down a job or something of the sort, and going through routine motions, and you’ve just been carrying forward mock-ups and you’re just doing your job in processing, and maybe processing some people now and then. You say, „Well, now when I was a little boy I used to have a… I used to have a dog, and so on. I bet I could think of a much cuter dog than that,“ as you’re walking home. So you just mock up this dog. And all of a sudden this great big dog from – lives in the neighborhood – comes out, he goes „Brrrrrrrrr“ and your dog jumps on him and tears his throat out.

Now wherever you can run these curves backwards, do so, but most of the curves, when they run Start, Change and Stop and so forth, the guy’s Start gets awfully confused with Stop. So if you start an automobile, back it up. You’re running a curve backwards. Have him stop the automobile; now make him make the automobile back up. And he’ll be back at the beginning of the thing again.

You got two… you have two choices at that point. You either… you either just go out and by assist of mock-ups or something or other, why mock out of existence this… this particular uh… end of things that you’re fooling with, or you mock it into existence or something of this sort. And what’s the use of working? You just mock up a plant and put it all on automatic and then blow it up or something.

But get… now, of those drills, this starting and stopping a chain of logic is a very interesting one. Of course, that doesn’t cover too much, but when we apply that on a chain of logic to thinking about wide spaces, changing their character, thinking about small places, thinking about a little bit bigger places, thinking about big wide places again – why it’s interesting what happens.

Uh… the… by the way, if you know… if you were to do that you’d be in a heck of a lot of trouble. Do you know that if you went out here on the marshes someplace and… and bought a piece of land and mocked up a plant, complete, and then blew it up, do you know that you’d be arrested for willful destruction of property? The motto of this universe is „We must have, and if we have, we’re going to keep right on having. And the more you have, the more we gotcha!“

Now we could take the whole emotional scale and we can start planting the emotion – this is quite necessary in this mock-up – we can plant the emotion in the incident uh… in the… in the scene. In that case, you have to have scenes. Or you plant the emotion in the thought chain. „All right, let’s… let’s think… let’s think now about your grandfather. All right now, let’s think cautiously about him. Now let’s hate him. Now let’s be… feel fear of him,“ see? Now it’s best to put a mock-up out there and put the emotion on that. „Let’s… let’s get afraid of him. Now let’s feel a little bit of grief about him. Now let’s feel a little bit of caution about him. And now let’s feel enthusiastic about him.“

All right, your other choice is, of course, is uh… just to stop right there on the corner and manufacture a little space and put a pink cloud in the middle of it and sit down and think the whole thing over.

Of course, you’re taking the guy up scale when you get these upscale emotions, because they’re on the emotional curve. Enthusiasm is at 4.0 and apathy is at the bottom, so you can run the guy from apathy on up.

All right. The bridge must lead then across energy, and the abyss is the abyss of force. Now we talked about a bridge and about a chasm and the abyss; the mystics talk about the abyss and so on, through the past. And what is the abyss? What are you trying to bridge? Well, you’re trying to bridge very clearly, the necessity of energy. And you’re not going to do it by saying, „I don’t want anything to do with energy. And I’m going to deny myself a body. And I’m going to deny myself sensation. I’m going to not use this and I’m not going to do that. And I’m going to back off from this whole thing; and just to show this universe what’s happening and that I’m boss, I’m going to sit right here on these spikes. And I’m going to sit on these spikes and hold this arm in this position for 30 years – that’ll show them.“ And what do you know? 30 years later he’s still there. They prove that conclusively… when they sit on spikes for 30 years they prove that they can… they are still there at the end of 30 years. Well, it’s a good experiment, but it shouldn’t be carried out so often.

„Now let’s feel… let… let’s get a visio of a stopped car and feel apathy about it. Now let’s change the thing and feel cautious about it. Change the car and feel cautious about it. Now let’s start the car and feel enthusiastic about it.“

Now the fact of the case is, then, is that you… you have to, not necessarily partake of action or really even engage in action, but you’ve certainly got to be willing to handle action. You know, if you. were to make, just as an experiment – this is one you can reach because it’s an action postulate – if you were to just suddenly make the… the statement to yourself „I’m going to use this body for everything it’s possibly good for. I don’t care whether I wear it out or not, I’m going to get everything out of it that could be gotten out of it and I’m going to make it do everything a body can do and I’m going to use it with the wildest abandon possible. I’m going to feed it all the good food I can possibly do, I am going to engage in the most horrendous affairs that anybody ever engaged in since Don Juan, I am going to put this… this body in a car and drive it faster than it’s ever been driven before, I’m going to teach this body in order to do this and do that, and I’m going to rig it up with titles, and… and… and I’m going to do all these things with this body and there’s nothing going to stop me doing these things with this body“ – all of a sudden the darndest little surge will go through you. You’ve just consented to the first step on the road, and that is „to use it.“

By interrelating those two things, you’ve shot the guy up tone scale. You’ve done the same thing as, „Take a little tiny space; now make a little bit bigger space; now make a great big space.“ You’ve brought him up tone scale on that gradient scale, and you’ve got Start, Change and Stop regulated against emotions, which again give more space!

Up to that time you may never have recognized… you may never have recognized one thing – that you’ve never used it. You’ve taken care of it.

Do you know… ever hear of anybody who was enthusiastic spoken of as ‘broad’ and ‘expansive’? Yeah, that just means more space in him. And did you ever hear of anybody uh… apathy, and so on – actually there are a lot of degrees of apathy – but a guy… a guy gets awful solid at apathy. A catatonic schiz is actually so solid in some cases that you can mold their flesh, and it stays the way you put it. They’re still alive it says at the bottom of the bed chart.

You know the fellow who spends all of his life trying to get a costume in which to play the part – about the time he gets the costume, gets buried, grimly enough. We spend all of our time getting dressed for the play and then no play. At first you’ve just got to have the object so that you can have the action. Then after that the object becomes the object.

Now, therefore, identification, association, differentiation goes from condensed space, such as an object, through wider spaces with more or less related objects in them, or disrelated objects, up to widely different objects.

It’s an odd thing that in English – beautiful stuff, language – we have the word „object“ as meaning „goal.“ Yes sir. We also have the word „identity“ and we also have „identification,“ and it means exactly what it says: An identity is the bottom scale.

„Let’s uh… let’s get a picture of a mine, uh… in the West and a plugged hat. Let’s get a high silk hat and a mine in the West. Uh… now let’s get the uh… now let’s get a factory chimney and a breadfruit tree.“ See, those are widely different things; they’re in widely different places. Now you might experience just a little bit of difficulty sitting ‘em down side by side. Now you could practice sitting ‘em down side by side and then start moving them out again.

Now what, then is our… it just shows, demonstrates, that’s a little trick to demonstrate to people, that someone was very clever doing this and that avoids saying that we’ve been very clever in undoing the riddle. Because of course the word „identity“ means that, because what are we doing? We’re tracking agreement. And what is language? Language is the communications of agreements and disagreements, that’s all. Of course, that language sits together that way. Wouldn’t sit together otherwise. If there’s a single word in English now that does not mean what it’s not supposed to mean, why it’s because… it’s because something has been entered on an arbitrary reason, like transcendentialism or something of this sort. But even… even then the fellow had enough sense to have the name „Kant.“

Your enthusiasm and zest for existence comes mainly from your ability to differentiate. You go into one place, you one… one quarter of the country – one province – and you find out that they’re talking there with uh… one accent; you go over the border of that area and you find out they’re talking with another accent. And you say to yourself, „My, isn’t that interesting?“ A guy alongside of you who’s way down tone scale, heard ‘em talking the first accent, went over the border, heard them talking the second accent and there was no difference between the two accents. Didn’t make any difference at all to him. He couldn’t tell the difference between the two. Oh, he really could tell the difference between the two; it’s all the same to him. It would’ve meant space caving in on him.

All right. In other words, you are essentially at the level you pick up a preclear, or the preclear is essentially energy. That’s a low level. But boy, he’s got to be that low level. And when you get him out of a body and you get his energy all developed and he’s all set and he’s roaring to go and he’s just… he’s practically a ball of fire, why what do you know? He’s going to have to be perfectly willing to use that energy in any department – willing to. It’s not necessary that he does, but he’s got to be willing to. He’s have to be able to use that energy to deliver somebody a zap, for instance. What you playfully used to do called a „nip.“ You take two energy beams and you slap them together just back of a guy’s ears. It kills him. It’s an easy way to break a thetan out, though.

Now you get… get the difference and the handling of and the similarities in and the identification of s… objects and spaces with regard to thinking.

Now when we have… so… so… he… he should be willing to do that. Why? So he could reassure himself – not advising you to have anybody do this – but he’d have to do something along in that order; at least go down here and knock out a couple of big neon signs or something of this sort, or plug himself into the main power lines and short ‘em out. To do what? To show that all he has to do is change a postulate and he’ll keep right on going. Because he’s arduously learned that when he uses his energy he starts failing in this universe. Well, you see, you’ve got a new system. You can use all the energy you want to, all you have to do is run out an evil effect that you had from it or simply learn how to sidestep the backflash. You can either receive the backflash, or let the backflash go through you. You get so split-second in your timing that you can put out an energy beam and then its backflash doesn’t find anything there to go through – nice trick, see? This would be like firing a rifle and then not being there to get any recoil.

You know space, by the way, has another action in it. You can get always a minus side of the curve. What do you think when you have to drive a long way across a lot of space to get someplace? Lots of space with very little havingness in it? Well, how do you think some rocket jockey feels when he would shove off from one planetary system to another one by slow freight. There’s LOTS of space. It sure increases the appetite for havingness and there’s lots of space in between those two.

Or… or you simply change the postulate or make a mock-up or run it out right away, The guy simply… he… he… he knocks down the Edison Company sign and short-circuits the whole joint and blows all the main fuses in Philadelphia. Well, have him sit down and uh… run it out, you see. That’s what’s important.

Space, however, becomes infinite and so forth, only… and becomes too big, only to the degree that a fellow feels he can handle force. Oddly enough, if a fellow can handle lots of force, he can handle lots of space. He’s just as happy about it as a clam.

And the… that’s… that’s just being able to handle energy on a snap bang basis. But you’ve got a method of doing it. Why did the handling of energy get you into trouble and how could energy, then, assume this much control and command over a person? And why did these flows and dispersals become so terribly important to him?

But for instance, if you were to suddenly adventure upon a voyage which would take eight months and you would not even see land or water or trees or anything else for eight long months, and all this time you could see by the passage of stars that you were on your way someplace, I’m afraid that the degree of force of which you’re capable of handling right at this moment would make you feel awful funny.

Well, the reason they did is because they kept heading him down scale. And he finally got into the bracket where energy meant nothing else but these diagrams which you had this afternoon – last few lectures.

Now if you want to get that same feeling, go out and look at a bright sky, a real bright sky when there’s no moon and just look at that sky for a while. And just spend a few minutes looking at that sky, or a half an hour just looking at that sky. And you’ll all of a sudden find out what your force registry is with regard to space. God, a guy gets tiny! Gee, he becomes weak looking at all that space, all that distance, all up there. Eeeowwww!

Now it… it said simply and positively that every one of those diagrams made the handling of flow as the complete modus operandi of existence about the most horrible thing that you could do – just terrible. But you have a new way of handling it.

Now you take somebody else… somebody else – maybe young and feels enthusiastic and zip, and so on – terrific capability of force, he’s got his ideas. And he looks at all this space and he says, „Ad astra per astrum!“ or „Stars, here I come!“ Yes yes. That’s very interesting, the interrelationship of that.

As a matter of fact, if you want people to agree with you, outflow at them. It’s very simple, just outflow good and hard. And if this fellow doesn’t agree and you’ve blown up in his face, so to speak, uh… I mean you… you… you’ve got… you’ve got this fellow and he… he hasn’t agreed with you and you’re going to sell him this piece of property, you’re going to reduce his survival by making him acquire something, why just… just start giving him hell, that’s all. And just give him some more and give him some more, and he gets all ready to fight; then start making noises like you’re exploding – anything like that – and the first thing you know he’ll say, yes, he’ll do it – providing you’ve got enough strength, of course – of course.

Now, space has a great deal to do with „Let’s pretend,“ and the reason why it has a lot to do with „Let’s pretend“ is because when you see lots of space you know there’s lots of room to set up lots of things in it. So it doesn’t matter whether anything you set in it is true or not, there’s lots of space to spare. If you want to repair the ability of a man to pretend, the ability of a man to assume, and so on, show him that he can keep manufacturing space and putting things in it almost ad infinitum. That there’s no capacity; that he can keep manufacturing space and putting things in it and knocking things out of it. And all of a sudden he’ll get more and more expansive and more and more expansive. It’s actually more important than anything else to demonstrate lots of space. And one of the ways you demonstrate lots of space is by mocking up a space, pull in… putting up… up anchor points, and then putting something in it and then putting it in yesterday. And then mock up lots of space and put in anchor points and then put something in it, and put it in tomorrow. And the guy has a flicker of a notion of how to do this, at first. If he’s worried about his facsimiles being in present time, something like that, give him one. Just tell him to mock up a facsimile and put it in yesterday. And then put that in a thousand years ago. And of course it’s all the same thing.

Now of course, if you want somebody to want, you keep walking away. Just keep walking in the opposite direction and you can get somebody all balled up on this one – terrible. I mean, it’s horrible the ease with which you can use those flows and monitor interpersonal relationships.

The way you do that – he just knows they’re there. And you’ll find 90 percent of your preclears that are in bad shape will be doing this trick: They will be going back to yesterday. And they know it’s there because they’ve still got their eye on it.

But that’s a monitor from a „let’s pretend“ basis. It couldn’t possibly be serious to you if you were doing anything like that. You wouldn’t be doing anything to anybody to louse them up, really, if you were at that band. You might amuse yourself or amuse your friends or amuse them. There wouldn’t be very much viciousness in it.

Then you’ll say to ‘em innocently, „Now…“ just very innocently, „Now… now how do you know it’s there?“

Now what… what are we trying to… what are we trying to get, then? We’re really only trying to get this bank… this bank that goes out to darn near infinity, which has more engrams on it than you could possibly count. You could sit down for the next 50 years and just count them, one by one, as fast as you could count and you wouldn’t be able to count all of the facsimiles on these ridges – much less run them out.

„Oh, I’m looking at it!“

We were interested before in making the best homo sapiens that we possibly could make. Okay, we’ve one goal; that’s attainable, that can be achieved. Gets up to about 4.0 or 5.0 – that’s all. You can do that by running out the most horrible things with overt acts and motivators and so on – even by old-time engrams.

Here is a guy with tremendous space scarcity. The way you give him more space in a hurry is just simply to put him straight and then drill him until he’s got it well that all he has to do is say, „I know it’s in yesterday.“ That’s all there is and the thing disappears. That’s all there is to yesterday you see. Yesterday is „I recollect that I had – and n… now necessarily… don’t necessarily not have, but I probably don’t have now.“

What are you going to do now? You got another goal. You’re trying to make the clearest thetan you possibly can make, so you’re dealing with a new subject through a new goal to a new thought level. And THAT one leads up through not becoming a well-mannered, if somewhat indifferent uh… able to handle what comes up, not lose one’s head in emergency, be skilled at what one is doing, homo sapiens.

Now if he still can’t get this, you get this one: „Well, take a look at it and realize you had it yesterday too.“ He finally can stretch his imagination far enough to grasp the fact that he had it yesterday. He can convince himself that he had it yesterday.

This requires a… a perfect – I mean, thi… this… this guy… this guy is… that you’re trying to make and get up tone scale up here, he… he’s got to be a killer. He has got to be able to handle unlimited force. And don’t think for a moment that you’re ever going to escape it. If he can handle unlimited force… you see what’s the matter out there, and you get out here to… to ring 99 thousand, you actually have… in Man you have a miniature of a complex electron. And in those ridges and so forth, you might as well call the thetan himself the proton and those other things out there you might as well call them electron-neutron orbits. And sure enough, an electron orbit and so forth looks just about like a ridge.

When he’s got himself convinced that he’s looking at it and he had it yesterday too, he can also get the concept: „I won’t have it then tomorrow.“

You see, an… an electron orbit isn’t a little… a little thing in pink pants or something that is racing around like… racing around this proton the way they’d like to have you believe in the elementary physics textbook. They change their minds by the time they get up to the advanced physics textbook, and then they change their mind again when they get up to… at really advanced physics, super advanced physics. And then when you get into elementary nuclear phenomena, boy they’ve changed their mind so many times, nobody knows what the heck cooks. And after you’ve been on a project for a while and you’ve really had to work with it, the best thing you can figure out probably is, it probably looks like an onion.

Now really throw the… throw the 64 dollar one at him: „All right. Know it’s tomorrow now.“

Now you… you… you have an embryonic – uh… not embryonic, but you have it in a pattern form. You… you don’t really have a solar system, that is to say, a sun and a whole bunch of planets flowing around the sun any more than you have that in nuclear physics. It… it’s a… it’s more like an asteroid belt. Uh… if you could figure a solid asteroid belt at every planetary belt, you’re beginning to get in somewhere close to it; and then if Earth had… had these solid belts that went out as far as… as Arcturus, you’d get some kind of an idea – uh… light… many light-years away… you’d get some kind of an idea of what… what complexity you have here in operation.

Work anyway you can to get him to get things to disappear in space. There’s another method of getting things to disappear in space. You put out anchor points and put an object in the midst of all these anchor points and then you collapse the anchor points. And that stuff will disappear. There’s no space for it to sit in. If he can’t get that, just make him vanish things and vanish things.

Now although apparently these rings are responsible for the production of energy, the gimmick is that they’re not. What’s responsible for the production of energy is not an interlocking flow from this; it’s strictly ‘a postulate. You say, „Let there be light“ – WHAP!

Now here’s a neat trick for you: „Get a concept… get a concept of anchor points WAY OUT in front of you. Get this concept of these way out anchor points: One to the right and one to the left – way out in front of you. All right. Now bring those anchor points in until they sit about three inches in front of and to the side of one eye, and three inches in front of and to the side of the other eye. Got those anchor points in? Now put them out about 2O feet. Now put them out a few hundred miles – that should make you feel more comfortable.“

Now you can build all this complex structure. It’s something like an engineer would sit down and he would build a little gimmick that was to do everything that was to be done with this particular machine. And he’d build this little tiny gimmick and all you had to do with this gimmick was simply… simply connect it and it would do everything. And then he sits down and he says, „Now let me see…“ and he starts building tubes and wires and modulators to unmodulate what he has just modulated, and condensers to uncondense what he has just condensed, and uh… rectifiers and uh… uh… all sorts of… of uh… inducers and transducers and persperators and… and he keeps adding these things on to his circuit and adding them on to his circuit and adding them on to his circuit. Until he’s… one day – by the way, did you ever see a Wright Whirlwind engine? That… that’s really a gorgeous engine. It… it puts jets in to furnish heat, and then it’s got veins to take the heat away in the slipstream. And it… it just works on that principle: You… you work like heck to make all this heat, and then you work like heck to cool it all down. And then you’ve got parts that go on beyond that basis, and they heat up and they cool down, and they heat up and they cool down. When you finally get through you have a very wonderful aircraft engine, as far as MEST engines go. But it… it looks very silly. It looks like the piece of mechanical buffoonery they have in bathrooms and call flushboxes. Did you ever try to fix one of those things?

You know, you can actually knock a man down with that trick. He… he doesn’t know what you’re doing. You say, „Get two points now and let’s put those points as far out as you can get ‘em. You got ‘em now?“

But it’s wonderful: There’s little rods that push up levers so that other levers will close and so on. And they came along with a jet engine and this jet engine has still got more on it than a jet engine should have. But it’s getting simpler and simpler and simpler. They just get in – every once in a while some engineer gets a brand-new idea; this idea mainly consists of suddenly jumping on to this engine and tearing out a whole bunch of parts and throwing ‘em away and then hooking everything in straight. And he stands back real proudly and actually he has made a considerable advance in the engine. Until the next engineer comes along and he’s going to make a big advance in this engine, and he tears off a whole flock more parts and he throws those things away, and the thing flies better.

„Oh, yeah.“

And then one day, one day, somebody comes along and he tears all the cylinders off and he tears all the cooling systems off and he tears the gas tanks out and he tears everything out on the whole thing and he says, „Well, let’s see. Let’s put this propeller up out here. Okay. We’ve got this propeller.“ I’ll be a son of a gun if it doesn’t run like mad. That would be a postulate at work.

„Now bring ‘em in right to here.“

Actually – well, there isn’t any reason why you couldn’t do that. It… it reduces down to that. The more MEST you hang on something, the more MEST you’ve got to hang on something in order undo what some of the MEST is doing. And it can really get complicated after a while.

And he’ll go ‘reel’ – he starts bringing in all the energy with him. Did you notice that? You notice you had the idea?

Well, a fellow’s ridges have gotten into that shape. He’s got pluses that cancel minuses and he’s got this’s that cancel thats’s. And the final result is, he is so solid that he does not produce energy anymore. Because the way you produce energy is, you take this propeller off the hub and you throw the hub away and the plane really starts flying. And he merely says, „Let there be light.“ – Bang!

Do you know there are a lot of people walking around with the… with the whole environment sitting here? Right here on the ends of their noses? Collapsed space: There’s no space in front of them. Well, various things that have happened to them is… is people have kept insisting that they do things. People will stand up in front of ‘em and say, „Now you do this. Now you do this. Now you go there. Now you do this. Now you do that.“ And they’ve done very little of that, you see. „Now you do this, Now you do that. Now you do something else,“ and so on and so on and so on. „And you ought to be careful. And you shouldn’t talk so much. And don’t be so enthusiastic about things. And you know it probably won’t come to pass anyway.“ Just this noise – sound – yak. And it’s poured at them from a close distance and they keep trying to get rid of that yak. They don’t want that, but somebody’s convinced them they don’t own any space right in front of their bodies. And so they get this idea they don’t own anything there, and the first time you ask them to put out an anchor point, it’s quite common that some person will appear in it. Bang! Or, there’s a great big black curtain appears in it. Ask ‘em to reach over and pull the curtain aside, and find out if anything’s there. And they’ll say, „Yeah! I wonder where that came from? That’s a picture of my mother!“

That sounds odd to you, and if it wasn’t for this silly system of „We’ve got to plant. it so that we can perceive it,“ it wouldn’t be possible because, you see, all the time it isn’t there. But it sure looks like it’s there when you’re down at one end of the tone scale and something comes along and guns one of these ridges into an explosion. You suddenly get this creepy feeling that such and so is about to happen.

Now that’s, by the way, one of the tricks in… in mock-ups. One of the ways a preclear gets rid of things is to drop black curtains over them – quite common. He keeps pretending to himself that he’s got rid of them. He’s lost the ability to make them disappear. He’s run out of space. How he can run out of space is more than I know. This MEST universe is really lovely. That you could run out of space! People think they have though.

Well, there’s wave lengths on those ridges that homo sapiens is too low on the tone scale to touch. And therefore he’s got to be way up tone scale in terms of energy; he’s got to go way up tone scale, way up, in terms of energy to run out the high-level ridges.

You know uh… you couldn’t hire somebody that’s lived in Lower East Side, New York to… to move out, really, in the wide open spaces. They would get upset. They’d really get upset. That’s too much space and their… the amount of force they have does not match up to that much space. It has to have a much narrower space.

The reason why your childhood lies forgotten is this: It has a faster speed than adulthood, and you don’t pick up the same waves – it’s going too fast. If you just would readjust and just run for a minute just as fast as a child and say, „I’ll feel like a child.“ Zing-zing! More scenes would click through about your childhood than you could count. That’s why childhood blanks out; that’s why the whole track blanks out. And that’s why you have come WAY up scale in the ability to handle energy to clean up all those ridges, and be in to a position where you can really get down to work using postulates or using energy.

Well, anyhow, you get this fellow that thinks he doesn’t have… that he doesn’t have enough space or something of this sort, and he hasn’t made objects go away. Or he’s got a terrific „Save it, hold on to it“ or something of this sort. And he actually has this black cloth sitting across the object. And you take a look at his visio – a funny thing will happen: This fellow’s got no field of visio. And yeah, he can’t do a mock-up or anything like that. You say, „How about…“ just… just as a little test, „how about reaching out now and picking up the corner of a black curtain and lifting it and see what you see. Put… pick it up very cautiously and take a look at it.“ My God, there’s everything he’s ever mocked up or thought of, it’s sitting right there with him. It looks like a junk heap or something or other to him. You’ll have to teach him how to get rid of it.

You’ve found out all there is to know about energy. Actually you’ve come to the last port of call on the subject of energy. Now you’ve got to track back. It’s like a game, parchesi or something of the sort.

Now very often you will find him slamming down a black curtain right straight across his face and saying, „Yes, it’s gone.“ Sure it’s gone! Same way a little kid will hide his head under the pillow and say, „I’m hid.“ He can’t see you, so therefore he figures you can’t see him. Just as silly.

Let’s take a break.

So this is the trick on space. You’ve got to drill your preclear into realizing he’s got lots of space and he can create lots more. And you do that by drilling with anchor points, and also, you do it by reversing these scales. You get him starting things, and you start him upscale about this. You get him upscale on emotions. You have him mock up things and then run him up scale. See, don’t run enthusiasm uh… enthusiasm, conservatism, anger and then finish it up in apathy. Uh… if you want to, you can go ahead and do that. Of course, you’ll kill the fellow if you keep on doing that. Let’s not do that now.

Let’s start in fairly low on the scale. If you can figure out what his chronic tone is. Maybe this guy’s scared. All right, this fellow’s afraid. Let’s see if he can feel some grief. „Let’s feel some fear. Let’s feel a little bit of anger. And let’s feel a little bit of that.“ First you start in depressing his tone. Then you bring it up: „Now let’s see if you can feel some enthusiasm.“ You’ll find normally he can’t feel any enthusiasm. No-no. He can sh… feel a little conservative about it because he’s got that mixed up with a lower scale. Because your person who is afraid very easily feels boredom.

Now another thing the fellow will be doing, he’ll be holding on to things like mad to keep his space contracted. He’s got things flowing in on him, and you try to solve that and it doesn’t solve right away quick. Well, the reason why it’s not solving is a very simple thing: He’s simply trying to keep things from going away from him. He keeps the inflow, he’s doing it. You’ll find that every once in a while. Ask Mr. E-Meter along about that time: „Now let’s see. Are you holding things in?“ What do you know? The E-Meter will go „Zong!“

You ask him now, „Are you trying to get rid of these things?“ E-Meter – no move.

„Well, you want to get this engram and stuff away from you?“ No move.

And you say, „Are you trying to get this stuff out there?“ No move. Yet he can’t put a toothpick out five feet in front of him without it slapping him immediately in the face. Bop! You obviously say, „The trouble with this preclear is everything is flowing in on him. All right then, everything flowing in on him.“ He’s getting all packed full. Ah, he wants it that way. He knows as long as things are flowing in on him they’re not flowing away from him. It’s very good, see. I mean, that’s very good philosophy. If you keep things flowing in, they won’t flow out. Now that’s good.

So how do you solve this? You just mock the fellow up, get the fellow to mock himself up, or mock something up that vaguely is a shadow that he calls him, or anything you can put over there, and you say, „All right, now get it holding things in. Now get it holding things in.“ And the guy’ll look at this thing and all of a sudden it’ll get very thin, I mean the… the constituency of it’ll get thin. The size of it will start increasing, and increasing and increasing and increasing. It’s letting things go.

And then you turn around to run this flow back here and you find out the flow’s much better. So you take this nebulosity again and you make it smaller, and then you make it even bigger. And then you move it someplace else. And then you change it to a color. And then you make it much bigger, and then you change it to some color. And you put it over here. And every time you make it bigger you bring him on up tone scale.

The fellow who could handle, customarily, mock-ups and say, „Well, where do I put the head?“ and you say, „Why do… why do you want someplace to put the head?“

„Well, the MEST universe isn’t quite big enough.“

When he’s dealing like that, don’t think that he’s… he’s feeling insignificant. He’s not feeling insignificant. He’s trying to get spatial uh… expansion on something. He’s holding in something for a long time. He’s suddenly starting to get expansion. Well, get him to decrease it down and up and get things relative to the way HE wants them, till he can finally get this figure which is very small or in the distance or something, and realize that it… know completely that it is 2000 feet tall and he’s much bigger than that. That’s one of the ways of going about it.

Well, the idea is to get more space. We… we want more space in these incidents, we want more space around the preclear, we want these ridges out further and we want all this to take place. And you’ll get action when that takes place.

Well, one of the reasons why he’s holding on to something goes right back to what I started to tell you about a little while ago, and that’s the loss of the home universe. As long as he keeps things flowing in, nothing’s going to flow out. And the reason he doesn’t want anything to flow out is because he remembers losing the home universe and one day it flew out. Somebody sort of pulled the bottom out of the tub and bang, there it went, down the drain and he never could figure out what happened to his universe.

Or, one tricky fellow still had it, and I imagine many of them have facsimiles of them. And you start uncorking the facsimiles, (sh… tell me) the facsimiles of the home universe and they’re very, very beautiful. The guy doesn’t want to get rid of these. He doesn’t want to touch these in any way. That’s the only recollection he’s got of the whole deal and he’s sort of been hoarding these all the time. Why? He’s gotten into a state where he couldn’t possibly create another home universe, he thinks, so he’s holding on to it like mad.

And if you want to look around your preclear with an E-Meter or you want to look around your preclear in processing or mock-ups or something like that, you’re going to find those facsimiles. You’re going to find he’s holding on to ‘em. And tha… that’s what he’s dodging mainly. That’s the secret. Somebody got to it before and so we’d better not find out how anybody gets to it again.

Well now, you know a minus space… minus space would be into somebody else’s space and scattered. And that’s what takes place from 0.0, on an arbitrary scale, down. Your thetan… your thetan is in somebody else’s space, and there’s a MEST universe space and he’s scattered in it. And therefore he’s in minus space, and that’s why you have a minus tone scale below there: He’s dispersed. And you’ve gotta collect him. And the way you collect him is he thinks he’s got a lot of space. But you’ll find out when you first start processing him, he won’t even vaguely be able to handle space. He’ll get real upset if you ask him to „Now saw out a square block of space.“

He’ll say, „I don’t want anything to do with it.“

Well now, isn’t that strange? I mean, you’re gonna saw out an imaginary square block of space out of the room and move it someplace, and he doesn’t want anything to do with it. He’ll be on the minus scale.

And as you get this person more and more able to handle space, he passes this point of 0.0 and goes right on up the scale. And after a while becomes terrifically able to move around.

Now the wrong way to get somebody out of his head like that is just keep hammering him and damning him and shaking him and uh… processing him and uh… sort of saying he’s being reluctant and he’s being mean because you can’t move him out of his head easily with perception. He hasn’t got perception because he can’t handle energy, and he can’t handle energy ‘cause he’s in minus space. That’s all there is to that, so you rehabilitate his anchor points, rehabilitate his ability to use space and you run him up scale on emotion with Start, Stop and Change and other things in the mock-ups and so forth; and you give him differentiation and you give him space back.

By the way, this person could possibly be the most logical person and very forceful person you ever saw. Well they’ve just got a lot to spare, that’s all. That’s why the MEST universe was tough on them is ‘cause they were tough on the MEST universe. They started in on the MEST universe and they started going „Rrrrrrrrr“ – the MEST universe gunned ‘em right back. Because all that you’ve got back from the MEST universe was the volume you put into the MEST universe – no other volume.

So, do we have this now and so on? This person is in other space than his own and dispersed in it. And then a 0 would be a sort of a solid dot in space. And as he comes up the line he is a solid bit of energy, and as he comes up the line a little heavier he might be appended to some old MEST body down here at 0.0. He’s got some old body, he thinks he’s a space ranger, he thinks he’s a school teacher or he thinks he’s buried someplace, right about that level.

And the way you get him out of that is just ge… he gets to be an energy unit and he’ll be shooting energy all over the place, and all of a sudden he’ll get all very active and he’ll start talking to you about ray guns and… and how he – „Look at that streetcar conductor. Now look at him now. Okay. Ha! The guy’s hat flew off,“ see. Something like that. He’d say, „What do you know. I’m getting a little bit better. Marksmanship is getting pretty good.“ And uh… you keep him from going back into action there because that’s kind of senseless, wanting to go into action.

And then let’s get up the scale higher here, get up the scale and he’s getting more nebulous and all of a sudden he finds out one day he can mock up a body. He’ll say, „Isn’t that pretty? I am that body,“ and… and all that. He’s got lots of space and he can make lots of space and he feels very free about it all. And then one day he makes a MEST body and uh… he… he’s just sitting there calmly at the office and the such… secretary comes in and says confusedly, „I didn’t know you had callers.“

And the body gets up and says, „Well, I’m sorry. I was just going.“

Okay, that’s how she is did. And uh… those are our aims and goals in how these cycles of action run.

Now you understand, of course, that any cycle of action that goes from 40 down here to minus 8, any cycle of action can be used to reverse this, and every one of them reversed will give us what? Space! And we’re looking for space, because if you haven’t got space, you aren’t going to be able to get out of this space because you haven’t got anyplace to go. You know that horrible line? No place to hide? Well, that’s a guy who’s in somebody else’s space and dispersed in that.

Thank you very much, and good night.