This is December 2nd, first hour night class and we have tonight this first lecture on the axioms.

I want to talk to you. Here today is December the second, I believe, in the afternoon. I want to talk to you about locks, secondaries, engrams, how to handle. Now isn’t that old? I mean that… that… that’s… that’s really antique isn’t it? That’s just terrible to think of going over these things again. Uh… just… just how grim it is.

We have the axioms more or less accumulated in ADVANCED PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS, and in the HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS. ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS is the later issue. There’s a whole rundown of axioms. There’s about two hundred and ten axioms.

But we have to know something about this because… just because we’re doing something else with these is no reason they’ve ceased to exist suddenly.

These axioms are divided into the Logics and in axioms, now Logics and axioms. All right, why do we have this division? It’s because the Logics apply and seem to apply at the time to a behavior level of thought which was persistent and consistent and didn’t necessarily apply to Homo sap… sapie… sapiens. Excuse me, Homo sap uh… it didn’t necessarily apply to him. But the axioms themselves as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURES AND AXIOMS and HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS apply to Homo sapiens. That’s why they’re in that group. For Homo sapiens every thought is preceded by a counter-effort. Now that’s one level of thinking. That’s to some degree stimulus response thinking.

Now you see there’s always two sides to a problem. One of the sides has to do… one of the sides has to do with the entity, the… the gimmick, the uh… object and so forth; and the other side has to do with how you handle it, or what it does, or what its purpose is. Well, we divide, we can divide uh… into, a… that’s a completely false division by the way but it’s a good analagous division, and we can divide the field of medicine into two halves. We can say there’s structure, and there’s function and where the field of medicine got off was in failing to say that there would be two halves and differentiating so that they hit the structure all the time - structure, structure, structure.

That’s not true of a thetan. And so the Logics as listed in ADVANCE PROCEDURE AND AXIOMS apply generally to thought, thought and its behavior in any activity. And the axioms, I say, apply peculiarly to Homo sapiens. So let’s pay then attention on these Logics and axioms, particularly to the Logics and then let me tell you that there is a thing above the Logics. And that’s what I’m going to talk to you first about.

Chap listened to a series of lectures up in Kansas City, a doctor. He came around one day and uh… he listened to this series and he said, „For twenty years,“ he says, „I’ve been studying structure. And I have worked from the standpoint of structure.“ And he says, „Now I’ve listened to you for three days and I have to throw this overboard.“ He says, „I want you to know that this is no small sacrifice on my part.“

There is a series, a whole series, numbering about five, something like that, above the level of logic and above the level of axiom. Now just for pure cussedness, I’ve been calling these things the Qs. Just… just for orneriness… uh… just the letter Q, a mathematical symbol which maybe stands for quotient and maybe it stands for quatrain and maybe it stands for quarantine. We’re not interested in that. We’ll just call them the Qs, just a mathematical designation to differentiate them from other things.

‘Cause function monitors structure and actually function in the level we’re now studying can at any moment become structure. And by having a function, you can at will obtain or procure or remodel or destroy a structure. So the structure from being part of this dichotomy - oh that’s a beautiful word. I picked it out of the dictionary, it has something to do with flowers or something and it didn’t mean anything else that anybody could get confused with. It’s just a lovely word. And I… I like to get a few of these words around so the professional auditors can stun people. So you can say learnedly, „Oh, uh… the de… dichotomy“ and the poor fellow will say, „The what?“ „Well, that’s a technical term.“

Actually, Q can be defined this way: it is the level from which we are now viewing, which is a common denominator to all experience which we can now view. This is the level from which we’re viewing all experience, and which does, by the way, act as a common denominator to all this experience, and the Q is the highest level from which we’re operating. This data then, these Qs, would stand behind everything else that we do.

Now when we have, where we treat these two things as data of comparable magnitude, we make a mistake. And that’s a very common mistake. And it’s a mistake so common that we’ve been making it for a couple of years. We have treated structure as comparable with function. That was because we didn’t know enough about function. Now true enough, that which we did know about function, the strata that we did know about function was comparable to structure. What we knew about structure and what we knew about function did form this dichotomy.

And… the first one of these and its corollaries would stand as something… you know LIBERTY MAGAZINE puts a good picture they used to put four stars, give it importance… and ah… in books they very often underscore and put things in italics. Well, you want to put this first Q in italics about… in your auditing, is in your auditing. You want to put it in italics about 125 feet tall and then put 10 to the 21st power binary digits of asterisks after it. It’s took a long time to get this one… but what you can do with it is phenomenal. It’s nothing short of phenomenal. What you can do with this Q, and that of course would be the definition… the noble level of definition now of theta. And we can say then that the highest activity which we now reach is self-determinism in these terms. Self-determinism of theta is the ability to locate in space and time, energy and matter, and to create space and time with which to create and locate energy and matter. That’s number one.

Now actually, however, we’ve moved upstairs now being… being how we don’t have structure to match up with what we now know about function. So structure stayed over here, this little tiny thing, this microscopic thing called the MEST universe and we’ve moved up into this bracket of function. So we don’t any longer have those two things. I… I… I want to make that clear right at the beginning here to show you the shift of importance on locks, secondaries, and engrams because although those are functional in their activity, they are themselves structure. They are structure.

We ought to have a very good idea what this means. Let’s state it another way. Let’s take… let’s take self-determinism. We know that… the more self-determined we make a preclear why that’s… that’s fine. Uh… he… he gets better. His self-determinism keeps rising; he gets better and better and better. All right, that’s fine. Then what is the limit which we can now attain on something which probably has no limit? And what limit can we attain and define with accuracy? And then having attained it and defined it, how can we apply it and will it apply?

And when we’ve moved up far enough here in the field of function, we can handle these things like a Mississippi riverboat pilot used to be able to handle a deck of cards and a derringer. There’s nothing to it. Uh… you sort of slide them around to the back side and flip them over and take a look at the front and deal all the hands out and everybody picks up their hands and they’ve all got full houses, but you’ve got four aces. I mean this sort of thing.

All right. Now that means then that here you have something which has… that’s… that’s theta. See it… it has no wave length, it has no position in space, any space, it has no position in time. It hasn’t any form, it hasn’t any shape, but it has an individuality for the individual and it has it’s own ability to be its own beingness and it can locate things in space and time. And when I say things, I mean energy and matter. It could not only do that, but it can create space, in time, in order to create… energy and matter. Now it can do all of those things, that’s… that’s… then therefore our Q is a potential. You could call it a capability.

Now, when you know enough about function, you can start ignoring structure, but boy, don’t start ignoring structure till you know about its function. Your engineer has this as an integral part of his thinking. Uh… when he knows enough about structure to make one at will, why he’s very happy about it and he gets rather careless about it. He knows the stress of importance on it. But uh… up to that point, he’s very, very careful that when he puts the railroad train through the mountain that it goes through a tunnel. He gets structural, he puts a… a structural hole in the mountain for the train to go through.

Now I won’t say how many other capabilities theta has, but in this universe or in the universe which you create we KNOW it has those capabilities. We’re… we’re sure of this. This is a good anchor to windward; this is a brick wall; this is a fortress. This is stuff. This is really good.

And it has been known to happen that trains which did not have holes and tracks to travel on, became remarkably second hand in a very short space of time. And so it is when you wouldn’t know enough about structure to know completely that structure was makeable, creatable, and destructable by function. But you’d have to know an awful lot about function over here, wouldn’t you? Tremendous amount.

Now a datum is really just as good to an individual as it’s workable, it’s no better than that. Even though it were going to be addressed to the aesthetic world, even though it were going to be addressed to aesthetics. Does it produce an aesthetic effect? That means it’s workable. So don’t get WORKABLE down there with digging ditches.

Now, it is no criticism of the field of medicine that it had to stress so heavily the whole idea of structure. Why did they think that surgery is the only cure for an ulcer, whereas their records tell them that surgery is not a cure for an ulcer? You operate on a fellow once, maybe he’s all right for a while, you operate on him again, maybe he is all right for a while longer, you operate on him again and he dies under the knife. I mean it’s just uh… one of these things.

Will it do what we’re supposed to be able to do with it? Now, will it do these things or won’t it do these things? When we make that statement about theta, we follow that thing out, we say all right this is the theory, let’s now see if with it we can predict the existence of new phenomena which when looked for will be found to exist. And sure enough… sure enough. This predicts data. It predicts phenomena and if you use it in auditing, it keeps increasing the individual capability up, up, up, up, up with a very sure, good, solid gain. So far, there’ve been no exceptions to this. It’s not a variable then, it’s a constant.

But every once in a while you get a case you operate on him for ulcers, he’s all right. He just goes right on from there. So the doctor says, „Well, okay, we got this chance and this fellow is probably going to go all to pieces and hemorrhage and so on and die anyway, so we might as well operate. He really doesn’t have any choice. It isn’t a matter of… then a condemnation, criticism, praise or anything else, it’s just let’s look at the practical aspect of it. He does what he can do within his own frame of reference, ability, and knowledge. Practically everybody you know is doing just that.

Now this isn’t everything that theta can do. This only says… this only says that we know for sure from the plane we’re operating on that theta could have or does create the space, and energy and matter which is the MEST universe and can move the energy and matter around in the MEST universe. And that, at the same time, it can create space and energy to make another universe. We know these two conditions exist. We can see those existing, and… uh… we can experience them. And actually, for man, a datum is just as good as he can experience it. And if he can experience a datum very broadly, it could be said to be a good usable workable datum. And if he… it… it’s just as… we… we might have some thundering fundamental capital Truth here.

Now, it is a very very bad thing for me actually to choose out for randomity uh… various fields and so forth, but it’s fun. And it’s… it’s completely uh… on my part I can get quite serious about this, get very serious about this. And the more serious I get about it, the less happens. That’s odd, isn’t it? That’s two things would be comparable there.

We… we might have some terrific truth and it could be stated, it could be stated, by K + Y over the square root of the minus Zed equals cats tails.

Now, the funny part of it is, is the less serious one gets, the more he can do with. Here’s this fellow, he goes into the cage; here’s a man-eating tiger. He knows this is a man-eating tiger. It doesn’t necessarily… It isn’t necessarily a man-eating tiger - he just KNOWS it’s a man-eating tiger. And there sits this man-eating tiger, and he’s supposed to train this man-eating tiger. All right, he knows that tiger is a man-eating tiger so he gets eaten up. It’s very simple.

And you say, „Cats tails? I don’t have much to do with cats tails.“ And you would say, „Well, that’s the truth behind cat tails. K + Y over the square root of minus Zed.“ „Humph.“

Uh… you’d… I’d had a type of ignition switch went on a little racing car. It was very interesting. It was a secret switch. The thing had no ignition key at all, and to keep somebody from fooling around with it and so on, we put a secret switch under its panel. You had to throw this switch and the front switch on it was just a dummy. Well, now because we had called that a secret switch, it, of course, became a secret. And it was badly wired so that no current was getting through to the distributor and the ignition system after it was installed. So you would turn on the front switch and you, of course, turn on the secret switch because you knew about that, the car wouldn’t start.

You say, „Well, so what?“

So you went around, of course, and took the distributor apart, took the spark plugs out, took the valves out and took the bearings out and took the gas tank off and took the drive shaft out and took the fan off to find out why this car wouldn’t start. Well, we put all these things back in again and tried to start the car again and it still wouldn’t start. And they gave up, they gave up, the mechanics working on it. And they brought the car back and put it down in the driveway and tried to tell me that it would start now. And I went out and it wouldn’t start. They towed it over. And uh… it wouldn’t start.

But you say, „Look, man’s search for this answer as far as cats tails were concerned; this applies not only to Persian cats but to Siamese and not only to Siamese but to alley cats.“ No workability.

And I went over this and I said, „Let’s see what have we done to this car since the last time it did start? Oh, we put in a secret switch.“ And I reached under the panel to see if the secret switch… and the thing bit me. You know, I mean good, solid short here - you know zziinngg! And so I reached back in there and tore out the wiring just wham, you see. And wound it together and just let it hang there for a moment. Turned on the switch and the car started. I thought for heaven’s sakes, this is very, very peculiar. There was nothing wrong with this car.

It doesn’t matter how true the datum is then. It… It’s how well can you make it work and how such work will it do for you. Well, this datum… this datum is really a nice big draft horse. It’s a big super… ah… ah… super engine sitting in the local power station. It’s atomic power. This thing… this thing, you can make things like… you can make things like, oh I don’t know. You can even make little things… you can even make small unimportant and nonpowerful things like H-bombs with it. Because compared to it, they’re not the same order of magnitude.

Of course, by this time, the car was completely out of adjustment Uh… the carburetors were out, the spark plugs were out, the distributor was off set, the timer was off, oh, the timing chain was all slack. Well, this wasn’t because I was bright. It was because I hadn’t carefully installed the secret switch in it. See, I hadn’t done that to the car, but they had installed a secret switch and so thereafter, it had had to, of course, remain secret. That was the purpose of the switch. And uh… nobody else, then, could start the car so of course, the car… the purpose of it was to fix it so the car wouldn’t start. And so they did just that. This is a very true example. It sounds completely idiotic. But… that took three weeks of work for a bunch of mechanics in a garage.

What are you talking about? You’re talking about this phenomenal thing this… this… this phenomenal thing which actually has an existence.

Now, there, they postulated something about structure in the MEST universe according to the most completely understandable terms, they postulated something about this structure. And they said this structure works this way. And of course, they… they made a good postulate about it. They said this is a switch which is not going to let the car be started; it’s going to let the car uh… be safe and then of course, because it’s secret, they couldn’t even investigate to find out whether or not the switch was well connected. Well, this… this is a long drawn-out affair. But what do you know that… that’s a part and parcel of every piece of research anybody does. He starts investigating structure and he says this structure does so - and - so observably, observably does this. Sure enough it does; you can go on and pick people off the street and so on and you can take them one after another and examine them all. And then… then - structure’s doing just that all the time.

How do we know it has an existence? Because you get a preclear up the line and all of a sudden he says, „Hey!“ He’s been telling you all the time he’s retreated into space to such a degree that he’s dispersed so he keeps telling you, „I’m not in space anyplace.“ Well, you know where he is, he’s… he’s gotta be collected before he can find the space he’s in in order to get out of that and get into his own space so he can get out of that and not be in any space.

Fine, now let’s take that serious, let’s take that real serious and let’s work with what their doing and undo it underneath and below the level of the postulate which does it. Oh, we can have a good time. We find everybody out there walking up and down the street has made an agreement on experience, that experience is a good thing and you have to hide some experience and some of it has to become automatic. And how do they do that? Engrams, secondaries, and locks - it’s a system. Everything becomes automatic, it works this way and that way. They’ve got… got all kinds of… of engrams which have to operate against them that they mustn’t know anything about. And although this whole system is just as haywire as anything could be, it’s as haywire as a Chinese idea of car repair, uh… they get the thing overworked all the time. They install it at one tone level and then they sink down the tone scale and they start using it at another tone level and of course this thing becomes the master. That thing begins to master. Then they have an awful time. Then they don’t know what… what… what is happening here and what’s the system they’re operating on. They’ve made something over here automatic they didn’t want to know about this, this is supposed to work over here in some peculiar fashion. And then once upon a time they knew all about that.

Well, here he is… here he is, then thoroughly collected and then he controls space and then he all of a sudden he’ll say, „Hey, isn’t this wonderful, there’s no space around here.“ Otherwise he’ll say, „Well, I don’t think I’m there at all. Really I’m probably… probably out, I’m probably outside this universe.“ No, you don’t want that. The guy discovers this as a wonderful datum - there’s no motion, there’s no space where he is. It’s very comfortably so. No motion, no space. You say, „Make some space.“

They… they walked in and they put their hand on a hot stove and it burned and they looked at their hand, and their hand was damaged. And they said, „You know, I will have to do something so the next time I come near a hot stove, I will remember I burned my hand because I’m liable to forget that.“ „Well, all right, we will pretend then that we have forgotten that but any time my hand comes near a hot stove, I will jerk it back from that hot stove.“ Automaticity, you see.

He’ll say, „Okay,“ zing, zing, „there’s a space.“

We’re going to get near something, it has a certain stimulus and we’re going to respond in a certain way. And we want that as fast as possible so - and this is the error, this is a big error. So we’ll make it automatic.

„Now unmake it.“

Well, now to make something automatic, you hide it from yourself. Now, you find this fellow way up the track a few million years, billion years, trillion years later. What’s he doing? He’s walking around in an utter fog, he’s in a body, he doesn’t know how he got there and so on. And you say, „Hey.“ It would be very simple if you could do this. You just say, „Do you remember the time you wanted something to be automatic“ „Yah.“

„Why?“

„All right, do you remember an earlier time when you wanted something to be automatic?“

„Well, go ahead, unmake it.“ „Why?“ The guy says, „Why should I? I just put something in it!“

„How do you mean automatic?“

Hey you know that’s very interesting, you know. Skip it. I mean, you… you’re not going to be able to audit this boy.

„Well, it’s something that would operate by itself and do something for you.“

That’s no kidding. Of course, of course that is so high above any preclear you ever find and don’t ever let one get away with it, because he’s w-a-a-y up there. He’s way up there. He’d be so able that he could actually mock something up that was brighter and shinier and had greater workability than this stuff which is kinda old and messed around with and kinda stale and mildewed and it’s… it’s sad too. This stuff is sad. It says, „Here I have been serving you and we were built for you and you can use this universe and we have given our all to help you out, and eh so on. And we built all this for you and you must be careful how you use it,“ and so on. That’s a fact. Ah… that’s… ah… you’ll find preclears way down tone scale dramatizing this as auditors. You just get them to have the beautiful sadness of being the last auditor on Earth. They’re way down tone scale, can’t get out of their bodies, they… nothing is… but they’re auditing like mad, and you… you… you, „Now get the beautiful sadness of being the last person on Earth, nobody else here, you freed everybody. Now get the beautiful sadness of everybody going away and the last couple of preclears looking at you and saying, „Well, goodbye, I’m sorry we couldn’t take you with us. Now get the beautiful sadness of that and get that little statue, the small statue there that they made of you and so on and you can sit there and look at that statue while the others are all gone, see.“

„Oh, yes, yes. Got an earlier time, got an earlier time, got an earlier time.“

He’ll say, „Yes. Hey, wait a minute!“ He says, „This is the way I feel.“

Bing! There goes his engram bank, ‘cause it’s held by this little tiny functional thing that says: „Let’s make it automatic, so we’re safe.“ You see how that would be?

Well, that’s the way MEST feels… if… if you really start penetrating and plopping around in it. It’s interesting stuff. Well anyway… of course you can make it feel any way you want to. But… uh… it does have a native feel.

Now I’ll go over that again in just slightly different terms so that you can see what these locks, secondaries and engrams are. We know what they are in terms of structure - they’re old energy with pictures on them, which when restimulated have the power to enforce pain and command upon the body.

All right, your Q, produces your universes along very definite lines, such as the MEST universe. Or it produces universes of completely ephemeral lines, or it doesn’t produce a universe at all. Self- determinism. But in order to produce a universe you first would have to be able to pretty will handle a universe. And a universe can be patterned to have eight dynamics. This one is. But you could have a universe with eighty-two dynamics, sixteen dynamics, and square root space. What’s square root space? I don’t know. I never made any square root space. I’ve made cube root space, and logarithmic space, but logarithmic space is a lot of fun. Let me tell you about logarithmic sp…

We… we know… we know there… that. We’ve examined that anatomy. We found these things sitting here as a heavy engram. It’d be in the prenatal bank, or it’s an electronic incident or it’s anyone of these dozen of things, many of them in controversy. Many of them not in controversy. Uh… we know that big bank sitting there and it’s got these secondaries that’s emotional charge, incidents, and then it’s got all little locks and so on. Boy, you start undoing one of those things – zing zang the other way. And you find it all wound up and tangled up and you find the preclear going down the street. And he sees a fire plug, and uh… every time he sees a fire plug, why, he uh… sort of stiffens, and tenses and… you say, „What’s… what’s making you stiff and tense?“

Gee, does a guy get fouled up traveling in logarithmic space. It’s wonderful. There’s twisted space too. You can make twisted space. You can make all these, anything you can draw a mathematical symbol for, you can make that kind of space. Furthermore, you can experience that kind of space, which is better than you can do with a mathematical formula. And it’s quite interesting to make some space and experience it and so forth.

„Why, nothing, must be the streetcars.“ Well, you… you put him on an E-Meter… you put him on an E-Meter and find out that it was fire plugs. And he doesn’t even know this, see. He’s that bad off. He… he sees a fire plug. It makes him tense and he doesn’t even know that it’s the fire plug which he sees that makes him tense. But he knows something is making him tense. He’s not that far gone. He knows it’s streetcars. Only he doesn’t know it’s streetcars. If he could know completely it was streetcars, he wouldn’t anymore get tense. If he would just say to himself, „Well, it’s streetcars,“ he wouldn’t be tense anymore about fire plugs. Now that’s… see, if he can KNOW that it was streetcars, what he’s done is make a new postulate. He says, „Streetcars make me tense. Now that I know that streetcars make me tense, they’re not going to make me tense anymore.“ He… he could play this quote „trick“ on himself unless he has to agree too heavily with the MEST universe.

Yeah, well, anyway, getting back to Earth again. We have… we have, then, this as our highest level of attack. This is above the level of survival; it is above the level of beingness. It is way above the level of action. Oddly enough, it’s above the level of identity, as such. But it is way up at the top level of individuality. People have had the idea that when you got up there along top… of course, you know you have to kind of get up there a little bit and take a look to see if there’s anything much higher, and… uh… people have had the idea that this… this… ah… there was just a main body of theta and everybody became one when you got to the top of the tone scale. Fortunately, that isn’t true.

All right, now what is this system then he’s set up? Well, it’s a system which starts in with an agreement. And one agrees more and more heavily and more and more heavily and the first thing you know, he is convinced of the solidity and existence of the structure which he himself constructed.

Yeah. But you go down tone scale and everybody becomes one and the oneness is MEST. And there’s no individuality whatsoever in MEST. This chair does not care who lifts it around. Doesn’t matter who lifts it around, could be a member of the Fifth Invader Force or you or me or anybody. It doesn’t matter. Somebody could jump in here from anyplace under the sun and move the chair around. It doesn’t say, „Excuse me,“ it doesn’t say, „I hurt.“ It is the true brotherhood of the MEST universe. It’s a brotherhood. It’s… it’s gone to a point, though, where it doesn’t even wear a badge.

Let’s look at that in another bracket. Let’s look at that in the field of hypnotism. Here is, here’s real phenomena, here’s something you can go and investigate. If you want to investigate this, go get yourself a little book Now to Hypnotize Somebody in Five Easy Lessons or something of this sort, as it’s very easy to do. Set up a candle in front of them, tell them to stare at the candle. There’s a certain percentage of people that hypnotize just like that. And a certain percentage of them are running so hard that anytime you say, „Go into a hypnotic trance,“ they run madly the opposite direction. They’ll hypnotize in opposites. There’s awfully interesting business, hypnotism.

But it has an identity. This is a chair. And not only that, this is the chair that stands on this lecture platform and it is a black chair, and… I don’t even think it would know if we named it… if we named it… uh… Mahidable. But we could call this the chair named Mahidable. There it is.

All right, uh… all you’re asking him to do is concentrate a sense channel on something, a communication line on something and then fix it there. Well, he agreed to do that the second he puts his eyes on the candle. Now your trick is to make him agree to something else. There’s nothing every very weird about hypnotism. It is the easiest thing in the world. I… it… now you got… got… got his eye on the candle. „All right, now you stare at the candle, stare at the candle. Now uh… you know that concentration of that sort can make you for… sort of sleepy and so on. You stare at the candle until you feel that.“ And he’ll say, „All right.“ See he’s agreed that concentration on that can make him sleep.

I notice after I let it sit there that it… it just sits there. It didn’t get up. It didn’t, say, it didn’t adjust itself back to where it was before. It didn’t do anything at all. I could came over here and kick this chair a little bit. Did it say, „Ouch?“ Maybe it felt ouch. I don’t know… that but it didn’t say, „Ouch.“ It’s just an identity, with no individuality.

All right, uh… you got that one. Now, uh… let’s go in a sort of a, of… uh… let’s look at this candle a little… a little closer and now let’s feel… let’s feel the… the… the body becoming more and more relaxed. And, he agrees to feel that the body is becoming more and more relaxed. That’s all there is to that. He… he just agrees little by little, the next thing you know the hypnotist says, „Now your eyes will close.“ And his eyes go bonk. Of course, he agreed to that.

Individuality depends upon being able to make identities. And what do you know about a little kid? He runs around. He’s Buck Rogers, he’s in… in the old days, he was Jesse James. In the days before that, he was Dick Turpin or somebody else. I imagine once upon a time they were… all little kids were running around being Richard the Lionhearted, then earlier than that they were all rushing around being Merlin or earlier than that, why, God knows. I imagine in Rome the little Kids ran up and down with… with, uh… without even wooden swords in their hands being Julius Caesar. But they’d be Julius Caesar this afternoon and Tiberius tomorrow and Caligula the next day. They didn’t care how many identities. But if you asked this little kid, „Are you an individual?“ Oh boy. He sure was.

Now, the hypnotist says, „Now your right hand will rise.“ And with some slight amazement, this fellow watches his right hand come up.

The mostest individuality he ever has in Homo sapiens’s lifespan is when he’s a little kid. His concept of dignity when he is a small child is something that would completely ruin some of the elderly matrons who chuck it under the chin and say, „Itsy bitsy goochie woo.“ This kid looks at them, looks could kill.

And he says, „Wooo, I’m hypnotized.“ So he just gives it up then, and the hypnotist now says, „Now you see that kangaroo on your right knee?“

Now, here then… here then we’re talking about an ultimate individuality that is attainable. And when I say ultimate I don’t mean absolute. There’s probably a lot of individuality left as we go up from there, probably a LOT of it. There’s probably a lot of other things that can be done.

„Yes.“ He sees the kangaroo on his right knee. Now take it on your right knee.

I know of three frames positively outside this universe. There’s a universe outside this universe and there’s a universe outside that and its set of universes, and there’s a universe outside that universe. And I know the one beyond that. And it’s not necess… they’re not necessarily getting thinner or more unsubstantial but they don’t run according to the same laws. E equals MC squared won’t work in ‘em. That is not a native characteristic of energy. It just happens to be.

“Now let’s see it jump over to the left knee. Now you got that? All right, now let’s put… let’s put a… uh… a bonnet on this kangaroo. Got the bonnet on it? Now have the kangaroo sing a song.“ And the hypnotized person is very happy to sit there and watch this.

Now this universe might be called… it could be that this MEST universe is the inevitable average of agreement, the inevitable average of illusion. If you… if you had a bunch of people and… and they kept mocking up illusions and mocking up illusions, and agreeing and agreeing, you might say that it would become the inevitable average of this agreement amongst illusions. Now I wouldn’t know that that holds good but it happens that it might happen over such a long… long phase of time. That’s horrible. Ah… it might happen over such a large mass as the MEST universe. The MEST universe is a large mass, not a long time.

The trouble is he’s seeing it; he’s seeing it completely. This is frightening to people that this can happen to them. Well, that’s just a nice MEST universe trick, that it could be frightening to them. And it’s very weird that they think they have to go along through all this mumbo-jumbo and ritual of hypnotism and be in a state of sound asleep and be out of control of themselves and can only see this when they’re taking orders from a hypnotist. That’s the silliest thing in the world.

Now there being a large mass this might have come into being because of that. I don’t know that. But I do know… I do know that I have already seen enough of universes to know that they don’t run on the same laws. That’s very very astonishing. And I do know that every individual is perfectly capable of making one. Well, don’t say that it has to be just a little tiny one that you’d keep in a jewel box or anything of the sort. It could be probably pretty big.

I mean, here we’ve got a long chain of laws and agreements and what do you know. They operate on more people out here. And they’re there as agreements - that if you agree to this, then you’ll get that. And if you agree to that, and you agree to that and agree to that, the next thing you know the fellow is unaware of his surroundings. A hypnotized person can see a whole room on fire and uh… he can. He can hear the flames crackle and everything else. He’s just in wonderful shape on the thing. You see he doesn’t have to take responsibility for it. He can do it all the time and the whole trick is, is he’s saying, „Now look, that hypnotist can be responsible for my really seeing this and building universe around here, and it’s up to him to get me out of it again, and so forth, and so I’ll just make him responsible and therefore I’ll be able to handle illusions.“

How many universes could you have in the available… universes? Of course the number is infinity. This MEST universe, being a postulated dimension which you agree upon, could very easily… if we’re speaking of dimension, you have a postulated dimension, all you’ve got to do is… is change its space coordinates just a little bit and it can sit right there. You… if you see… space can’t even be coincident. You get… the truth of the matter is you can’t even talk about one piece of space crossing another piece of space in view of the fact that space is a postulated agreement and if… if space is a postulated agreement, the only way you could get one piece of space sitting across another piece of space would be a very simple thing. You could have a fellow say, let’s see, „Up IS, front IS and width IS, but width is also up here 45 degrees and up is slightly down to the left and this is width.“ And he’s got those two sections of space simultaneously.

That’s one of the reasons people respond better to being audited than auditing themselves. They don’t audit themselves, they just, well they kinda dodge around because they’re asking themselves to take full responsibility for everything they do. Well, it’s much better to have an auditor there and say, „Well it’s what he’s doing. I’m not doing it. Another fellow can do it with great ease.“ In other words that having an auditor is a gradient scale on automaticity which is also the scale of responsibility.

Now wouldn’t he be in horrible shape. He’s got two sections of space simultaneously and he’s trying all the time he’s got these two sections, these two pieces of dimension… You see, the only reason they’re scrambled is because he’s on a… on a maybe. And then maybe he has a space that he calls time and he keeps shoving this space he calls time around. ‘Course, if doesn’t go anyplace. But… and he’s all fouled up on the subject of time but he’s got another space that kind of introduces itself on him all the time.

One wants things to be automatic for which he does not want to be responsible. Now, we find nearly all Homo sapiens audit far far better than they will self-audit. It’s almost dangerous to start them in self- auditing ‘cause they’re not going to take responsibility for doing a good job of it. Then another thing is… is when they self-audit, they have to set up to some slight degree, a circuit auditing themselves or themselves auditing a circuit. And it becomes a little more complicated and… uh… it isn’t so good. So about the best point you can pick Homo sapiens up on the gradient scale and so forth, uh… the best point you can pick him up is a doggone good auditor. Now… that… that right away he’s able then to shove enough experience over.

What do you know, that’s your preclear. He doesn’t know… he doesn’t know any difference really between MEST universe space and his own universe space. He’s never differentiated between the two. He’s still holding on to the one and trying to view the other. People who have directional reversals, people who do the darndest things with regard to space, it’s fascinating.

Now because the auditor isn’t interested in putting this person to sleep this auditor is interested in waking him up, you get a completely reversed idea from hypnotism. You take this preclear, let’s take the preclear here and the hypnotizable subject here. Neither one are hypnotized or… or they’re just in, like they walked down the street. All right here are these two people, they’re in the same state of wakefulness. Now the person who is agreeing to be hypnotized goes down from this state of self-determinism and awareness to the direct degree that he is worked by a hypnotist. Now let’s take the preclear over here. Now the auditor is trying to return to this fellow some self- determinism and ability on his own so he takes off at this level. He makes an agreement that he will try to do the things for his own good that the auditor wants him to do. That’s his first agreement. He is agreeing to be self-determined.

You… you… some person will go out and he’ll look at the stars and he sees the heavens in three dimensions, just as nice as you please. Well, he’s got a pretty good idea of space. And the thing about it is, is he will tell you which is the furthest star, which is the further star. You’d check it up on your maps. It isn’t the brightness of the star that measures its distance because some of the very bright stars are quite far away and some of the dim stars are quite close. And he’ll say that, „Well, that star is quite a distance and then all those other stars are way behind that. I… I can see that from where I am.“ You can say he couldn’t possibly have that small a parallax and still be able to measure it. Couldn’t possibly. And yet you look it up on an astronomy chart what he’s just told you and you get the same dimensions.

Now he agrees a little bit more that he can be a little bit more self-determined and he agrees that he can be just a little bit more self-determined and what do you know. He gets more and more alert, and more and more awake and more and more awake and more and more awake and more and more awake. Now you see that… the going opposite directions from the average Homo sapiens with these two processes.

Now… this… you get an approximation of what he was trying to tell you. Yeah, now that’s… those… that bright star IS further than those two dim stars. They see depth in space. Well, they’d… they’d have a pretty good concept of the dimensions of this universe if they were doing something like that.

The hypnotist is only interested in one thing, really. The hypnotist is interested in taking the control of this individual. If you ever want to process somebody and have a bad time of it, get a hypnotist - a fellow who is a professional hypnotist - and start processing him. And a large percentage of these boys are practically crawling the walls.

The other fellow goes out and gee, some of those stars appear to be floating about a foot above his head. He just doesn’t have any distance to those stars at all and they’re all flat. And somebody else goes out and they’re all tipped some other way. He can see plainly that the heavens run off that way and he goes… as you get further to the south, why they’re just going up. Maybe you’d observe this closer if you’d just ask a few people how stars look to then. And if you ask them searchingly they will tell you that there is a difference in observation of space, which is the only point I’m making here. There’s differences.

I’ve had them come around and say, „Please, Ron, do something for me, I’m just hung.“ And you say, „Well, all right… let’s pick up the last person you hypnotized. Okay, get shoving your control center sort of thing over the top of him, now pull it back, now give it to him again, now pull it back, now give it to him again, now pull it back.“ And the fellow all of a sudden gets the feeling that he gets when he hypnotizes people. He’ll take over control of somebody by simply sort of moving himself all over the top of this person and after that monitoring him. And what do you know - that was twenty years ago and this person is now in Istanbul and this hypnotist still has a ghostly feeling that he’s still controlling the motions and thoughts of that person. And by the time this poor hypnotist has hypnotized five or six thousand people or something in some profession, he is all in a spin on two things. One, control of others - it’s an overt act and… two, he’s all fouled up on spacation.

What’s this got to do with auditing? Well, it has really everything to do with auditing. You will notice… give you a practical example of this. I’ve consistently with mock-ups told people to move it to the right, to move it to the left, to put it above their heads, behind their backs and under their feet. I’ve told them to put it a distance from them, bring it close to them. Told them to put it out in the street, up on the wall, here, there. What am I doing? I’m changing the position of an object… in space. And it is more important to change the position of the mock-up in space than it is to change its color or anything else. Location in space. And that starts up and becomes about the high… the high-level function in processing then because, why? The effort… the effort and thought of your preclear is to attain self-determinism and self-determinism could be said to be an effort to attain the goals of theta.

He has lost his own location, he’s put his control of beings over the top of so many beings and they are now in so many places, he has done a sort of a valence shift into them so many times, and they are now so far away that he thinks he’s scattered all over God’s creation, he is no longer in control of himself anymore and so he gets to a point where he is crawling the walls. Furthermore, he has made people agree and agree and agree and agree to this and in order to make them agree to this, he had to agree to make them agree to that. And so he’s gone down scale little by little by little by little. He’s been agreeing himself ‘til he gets the idea that he walk out on the street anything will hypnotize him. Oh, he… he’s in terrible shape.

And the goals of theta which we can observe - and it maybe has many more goals - is to locate energy and matter in space and time; and to locate, additionally - quite an addition - and create space that you can locate energy and matter in. So when we start in with processing, why, we be very sure that we’re relocating all the time. What’s the biggest trouble he has? That first little trouble you run into with a pc? He can’t move it around. This surprises him a great deal. He knows you need 10 ton trucks, winches, chains, everything else to move something.

It’s just like a salesman; there’s nobody under God’s green earth easier to sell something to than a salesman. He’s agreed so often on the fact that things can be sold to people that… that he’s agreed that this is possible.

Well, now we’ll have to take up time later on but time is a quite finite and very, very easily understandable thing so let’s not stress time right at here, at this point.

And you come along and you say, „Now you see this old dead rat? It’s only two weeks old and what do you know, the price is only 85 dollars,“ and so on. And he’ll look at you sort of helplessly and bite. Now the trouble is, people haven’t realized that too much about salesman and so they’re still alive and they still can function. But knowing… knowing that about a salesman, it… it becomes horrible.

Let’s take that as a goal level of theta. This means then in processing to restore self-determinism you make your strongest effort, and actually your only effort, the attainment of the goals of theta, and the goals of theta are its capabilities. Capability is theta. Q one: Theta is… no wave length in it, no position in time and space, has no mass, has no duration, hasn’t any one of these things, but it has the potential or capability of locating in space and time, energy and matter and creating… creating space in which to create energy and matter. And that’s… it’s all there are to it.

Another thing, a salesman is trying to give away MEST, he’s trying to give away MEST, and give away MEST and give away MEST, so that he’s disagreeing all the time. Well, this is fine, but when he fails to make a sale, he’s been unable to give away MEST. Well, by the time he’s failed to make enough sales, he doesn’t think he can give MEST away anymore and he knows that he has engrams although he pretends he doesn’t know he has engrams and a bank and so forth. So he can’t give this away either and he becomes jammed on the time track. He… he isn’t able to give away MEST.

Now, that… that… that’s… that’s… how’d… how anyone get to any such a… any… any such a conclusion? Then you’ll… you’ll watch this work… you’ll watch this work with a deadliness that you will begin to wonder, for God’s sakes what have I got my hands on here, every now and then. Because actually it… you’re… you’re working all out.

Now all of that… all of that is very related, extremely related. Here we have somebody who by gradient scale of agreement, we agree a little bit and then we agree a little bit more and then we agree a little bit more on some subject, why, it becomes true.

Now, someday I’ll find a higher Q or you will or somebody else will. They can do something out and beyond and broader than that. And when that is attained, why, we’ll have another big surge forward in capabilities.

Now automaticity comes about, we’ll have a lot more on this automaticity but… lovely word, but I mean you can count on that flooring people.

But this Q about which I am telling you now was a goal, I said that there were several echelons and that we were going through the second echelon of knowledge with effort processing. And we’re slightly into the fringes of a third echelon. Well, we just busted through the roof of the third echelon.

Well, that’s the principle of automaticity, I would say he’s about uh… about… uh… 2.2 on the tone scale, automaticity uh… and so forth. Has a very, very uh… bad uh… compulsion toward uh… wishing tiredness on people, and uh… that demonstrates he’s about down there on the tone scale and so forth. His reactive bank is at about such and such a state of affairs, uh… he… uh… locks… he probably can’t get rid of those very easily, and so forth. He’s probably having an awful lot of trouble with MEST. I’d say his finances were in bad shape. Let’s say his finances are in bad shape. I’m an auditor. That’s what I’m interested in at the moment. Uh…

Now, what lies in the fourth echelon? I don’t know. But I know that visible and usable and for the first time really satisfactorily usable, on a broad level, is this Q-1 because with this, the second you start using this your preclear stops asking that inane question.

Anyway, well, all this comes out… all this comes out as uh… one of these little center pins on cases that is very easy to pull out and examine. All right, what happened to give this fellow the idea that he ought to have an engram? What happened? Well, one day he found out he’d been wrong, that’s all it took. He found astonishingly enough that he’d been wrong.

Uh… this question is something. It becomes very hard to understand this question, that anybody would ask this question, but they say, „Why are we here? What is the reason for all this?“

Now, he had to make a postulate to be wrong. I mean he had to make a postulate that he was now found out to be wrong. This depended upon a postulate that there’s such a thing as rightness and wrongness of action. So he must have agreed to those things before. He had to make postulates concerning good and bad conduct, and good and bad effect, and good and bad cause before he ever got to a point where he could get an engram.

You say, reason, that’s point zero, about, fi… point about fifteen zeros one five or something like that, wave length, capability, perception, reason… „What are you talking about?“

So gee, where did these engrams start cutting in? Well, they start cutting in way down there - about 3.5 on the tone scale, way down. A fellow doesn’t never bother with them below that. But he agrees that there’s bad cause possible and there’s bad effect possible and that good cause is desirable, and good effect is desirable. He’s agreed to that so far.

And he’ll say, „What is the reason? What do… What do I… What’s the reason? I mean, why are we here?“

Now he’s agreed to the fact that there is such a thing as wrong conduct and right conduct. He’s agreed to that many times. And then he’s agreed to the fact of something else. He’s agreed that there is such a thing, there is such a thing as pain. He’s… he’s had to agree with that. Pain doesn’t exist, but he’s agreed to it. And boy, is he anxious to have it - that pain is precious stuff. The fellow that thought that up deserves a big leather medal.

„Well, you mean,“ you say, „prior cause.“ „Oh, you mean there must be a prior cause in this universe?“

I’ll find him around the universe someday when we’re bailing people out and so forth and some fellow will be walking along the line. He will look more hangdog than the others and so on. That’ll be the fellow that invented pain. So we’ll just take him over and we’ll run this out of him - Standard Operating Procedure 1950. And we’ll give him a slow auditor. All right. Now, he had to agree that there was pain there, well actually he agreed to things even earlier than all this, lot of things earlier than this, but within just our frame of reference, he’s had to agree to bad and good and right and wrong and so on. And one day he’s had to agree to this fact that he monitors himself. Yeah, he’s had to agree to the fact that I tell myself what to do.

„No, no, no, why are we here?“

Why that’s the most wonderful one of all. That one is so apparently right in this universe that… it has an existence. Everybody on the street out there think… thinks they got that. They… they think they… they tell themselves what to do. They… they matter of fact spend a lot of time saying, „Well now, got up to the… the corner and get a cigar. All right, I’ll go up to the corner and get a cigar.“ And back and forth they go and around and around, „Now let me think, let’s see what I know about this. What do you know about this? Why, I don’t know about what I know about this, what do you know about this?“ Stream of consciousness and so on, a lot of people around there are eight or nine or twelve people holding conferences on all this.

And you say, „What do you mean by ‘Why are we here’?“

They go into a big conference and the majority vote. I… I don’t know that anybody’s ever gone to the point - I suppose you could find somebody in the spinbin that has instituted parliamentary procedure amongst circuits.

„Well just that. Why are we here?“

But he had to agree… he had to agree that in order to be aware… in order to be aware he was something that couldn’t be aware, and there is the bottom of the barrel on unconsciousness. He had in order to be aware, you see, he… he’s told himself, „Let’s see now, how do I know I’m aware. I’ll have to prove that I’m aware. Well, the best way to prove that I’m aware is to have a period when I’m not aware and then if I’m not aware then I can go back, and by golly this thing of awareness is true. Yes sir, I’m aware because there I was not aware.“ Well, who was that person that was not aware. Hmm. „That couldn’t have been me because I’m in charge of me all the time so I wasn’t there. Well, that’s being not aware. Well, that means not there that means something… something else must be aware because look, I was still there. Well, let’s see, therefore when I was asleep something else was aware because I would wake up if anything happened in the vicinity or something like that. So that demonstrates that something was sitting there keeping watch or something. Well, that couldn’t have been myself but the best way to prove that I’m aware is to show that I can be not aware and then I’m sure that I’m aware.“ He’s talking about that down pat.

You say, „What do you mean by that?“ „Well I want the REASON why we’re here.“

This… this business of awareness is a squirrel cage. I mean it has no business in reality at all. A fellow is, that’s all. He isn’t aware, that’s just putting… putting another condition on that’s a completely unnecessary condition. He is. Now to be aware of himself, is a secondary condition. Now see, he can be aware of himself.

„Well, look, look,“ you say, „Reason has to do with associative processes.“ Now if you could associate anything you would eventually find the association coming back to the same point you left. You could keep going around in this circle, or you could make a spiral out of it, anyway you want to. But when you say the REASON for something, you’re asking for a gradient scale of data. So if you’ve got a gradient scale of data, it takes the space and the time in which to have a gradient scale of data. And this can go round and round this way. Don’t ask about the gradient scale of data in a space and a time because it will wind up with itself always. It can never do otherwise.

Well, actually, if he’s real good at it, he can be aware of this dog out here, he can be aware of horses, he can be aware of buildings, he’ll say that this would preclude his ability to be anything he wanted to be anytime he wanted to be it. Well, this awareness is not that agreement. He’s just being aware of being himself. And so if he’s very aware of being himself, why then he feels he’s in good shape. Oh, that’s terrible. Do you know what self-consciousness is? That is just that thing I just spoke of on a gradient scale. We just magnify and multiply that feeling of being aware over and over and more and more and more and you get this shaking horrors of self-consciousness that most people go around in.

Your reason applies to one universe at one time. You would apply reason. Now you have to… before you can have a reason you have to have a rationale. You have to have… have to have a cause.

That starts out with the agreement „I am aware.“ A fellow IS, he isn’t aware. He IS high on the tone scale and all he has to do is make a postulate as to what he is. And if he wants to be something else, he simply has to make another postulate, not change a postulate. He just makes another postulate that he is and he can also make a postulate, he is aware.

And when they say, „What is the reason I’m here?“ They’re talking about… Now look. There’s… you well know there is a cause prior to cause. Oh, the Greeks got around this. They did a beautiful job, did a beautiful job of this whole thing. They said, „Hell, now…“

Well, that… that would be something that a guy couldn’t quite grasp, and I can just see it now. A bunch of ghouls sitting around explaining to a new recruit saying, „Now, well this… this… this being aware is very good, that… that gives you a lot of sensation and so forth and how do you know you really get this sensation unless you know you’re you. Now that’s obvious so if you know you’re you, why then sensation comes through very strongly and then you’re aware of who’s getting the sensation, don’t you see? But if you’re not aware of who’s getting the sensation then how could you possibly know that you’re getting the sensation, obvious isn’t it? Well, now you’ve agreed now that… that’s a good state of affairs and we’ll show you we’ll give you a good sensation right now.“ So they give him some sort of a sensation and then they give him a bad sensation. You say, „You see, now you feel that more strongly, don’t you?“ and the fellow says, „Yes, I guess I do.“ And uh… he has agreed… he has agreed at that point, that he can be aware.

Well, I could probably tell you about a much better one than the Greeks. This Hindu, I’ve mentioned this occasionally in a lecture, the Hindus had an awful time. The priests were asked and asked and asked, „What’s the world like?“

Gee, the second you agree I can… I can be aware, you set this up as a temporary condition, as a momentary condition or as a desirable condition or as a bad condition, or anything you want. This has been set up now you can have a whole flock of conditions. Instead of just being and acting very wholeheartedly and feeling and so forth, a fellow was first aware and then he does this.

They finally said… they finally said, „Well, the world is a… is a hemisphere,“ and… and people were satisfied with that.

You put it on a bypass circuit, you see, so he has to agree that he’s not aware at times. See he says, „I’m not aware at times. I go to sleep.“ That’s the backbone on sleep. „I can agree not to be aware.“ lie’s found this out. Oh, that’s an interesting one. He cannot be aware. Then he can agree to be hypnotized as far as that goes. Then he can agree to be unconscious and when you can deliver enough pain to an individual to make him dislike it, he would always rather have some kind of a mechanism by which he didn’t have to feel it. So he invents this mechanism of, „Ow, I’m not aware in that period.“ That’s all. So that solves it. „I just didn’t feel it. Didn’t feel a thing.“ There he is.

And they finally said, „What’s the hemisphere sitting on?“

Well, that’s an automaticity sort of thing. Yet I didn’t feel it but my… my beingness kept on being so therefore I can… suspend beingness. And that is the… the big lesson… I can suspend beingness.

And they said, „Well, this hemisphere’s sitting on… humm…“ And they went and did a big study and they came hack and they said, „The hemisphere is sitting on seven pillars.“

Now, he gets caught a few times too fast to make a good postulate, something hits him so quick that he can’t suspend beingness, he thinks, fast enough. So he says „Let’s make this automatic, when anything hits me that fast I have a not-beingness right then and there and to make sure that I have a not-beingness right then and there I will go two or three seconds before the time I was hit by it and start not being at that point and that wipes out everything.

That held them for a while and then some wiseacre, some revolutionary went in and busted the whole thing up and he says, „What are the pillars sitting on?“

How many preclears have you run that couldn’t spot the point of unconsciousness but kept putting it earlier? And then would start putting it later? And then would unfold it and bring it into view; they would do this with great caution. You know a fellow starts going unconscious minutes be… under anesthesia before he goes unconscious - no anesthesia’s anywhere near him and he doesn’t go unconscious ‘tel the moment he goes unconscious, that is saying, ‘tel the moment the anesthesia is applied. But the second this is applied, he back postulates that he has been unconscious for a little while in order to make it very easy to take the anesthesia. And the anesthesia has nothing to do with the reduction of his awareness except that he has agreed that it does.

And… uh… well, the fellow said, the priest said, „Sitting on elephants, sitting on the backs of seven elephants.“

And there… there are people around, a good demonstration of this, the people around you can slap chloroform on him, you could have slapped ether on him, you could fill him full of sodium pentothal, sodium nitrate, anything you wanted to fill him full of and… and what do you know - they don’t go out. This is a despair on the part of some people in hospitals. They say, „Well he must be unconscious.“ No. Another bucket of ether, pour it over his head and so on. Nothing’s happening. They say, „Well nobody can possibly be alert all through all of this, so, he must be unconscious so we’ll go ahead and operate.“ That wiggling around he’s doing is just automatic reflex he’s… he’s already had two and a half gallons of chlorobutanol or something, and Nembutal and we filled him up.

Well… well that stalled off the… the mental, intellectual revolution probably for many centuries until some wiseacre finally says, „Hey, you know, I wonder what those elephants are standing on?“ And he came back and he says to the priests, „What are the elephants standing on?“

Yah, very great confusion on what is this thing unconsciousness. And that’s the reason… the reason why is it’s just a postulated unawareness but it’s been made automatic, it’s been made completely automatic. And this fellow out here on the street made it so completely automatic that if you went along and tried to tell him it was just a postulate - he’d laugh at you.

And the priests had it all ready and they were already figured this out, see, and they’re just waiting for this, and they… they had it all answered. And they said, „The elephants are standing on a mud turtle and it’s… and the mud turtle is sitting on mud and it’s mud from there on down.

That’s reality, that’s good reality, that’s useful, that’s workable. When anybody delivers too much pain to you, you become unaware. That’s the thing to do. So you go out here and you try and undo that as… undoing it as a postulate. You’re not going to get to first base. There are periods when he did. Now he said, „I’m not responsible for that period,“ don’t you see? This is a direct application of full responsibility as a theory. I’m not responsible for this period when I was aware.

That… that finished off that one.

However, the first book forward we were trying to bring around and we succeeded in actually bringing the person up to the responsibility for the moments when he was unaware. We ran them out and brought them back into being. And whenever we ran one out and brought it back into being we made him responsible for that section of his life and it ceased to have a heavy command value on him. Because anything for which a person is not responsible can effect, make an effect of that person. Anytime he’s not responsible for something, it can affect him.

The early Greek tried to get around it: he kept talking about the prime movers unmoved, prime mover unmoved. He had a very MESTy concept of all this. He said, „If you have a universe, then you’ve got somebody who made the universe.“ Well, who made the fellow that made the universe? Never occurred to him that it might be that the fellow who made the universe didn’t have to be made. That… that would be just as reasonable as the other, you see.

He says, „Well, I’m not responsible.“ Supposing we’re driving down the street in a car and he says, „Well, I’m not responsible for what this car’s doing.“ And he’s took his hands off the wheel. Boy, it can sure have an effect on him, right then and there. If, uh… somebody’s talking along and they’re talking about this and that and so on and he doesn’t stand up for a friend of his, he says, „Well has no… no effect upon me. I mean I’m not responsible for that. That fellow’s just talking. I’m not responsible for it. It isn’t any responsibility of mine what that fellow’s saying about that friend of mine. I’m just standing here.“ Oh boy, his friend hears about that one of these fine days, and it has an effect upon him. But its -

But, when people are asking for the reason and prior cause, they’re asking for something earlier on the time track. And of course, a time track would always be a finite length so someplace this time track started. And if you’re going to explain to them the reason why, you’ve always got to have a prior cause. And it doesn’t matter how far back you go, you’re going to go around this way on prior causes and the only inevitable place you will wind up is just where you started. And you can take any rationale, you can take any subject and you can explain it circularly. You can always explain it circularly and even though you are apparently taking off a big chunk of knowledge and you are moving it forward for people to look at very nicely, you’ve got a circle. Only you just haven’t carried it all the way out here and all the way out here and brought it all the way around here and locked it up here again.

Whenever he abandons control of space, energy or objects, whenever he abandons control of these three things, he’s asked them to command him. He says, „I can’t control them.“ And what do they say… they say, „Hmmm, raw meat. We can control him.“

So we could do for our purposes here, for this universe you have a circle and this circle is a very interesting circle of reason. And this applies only to this universe. And that starts out here.

Now, how do you get a person under control? You… you can say, „Give them anesthesia.“ Let’s say the same thing exactly. You get him to abandon control of space, energy, and objects.

And let’s say that we’re going this way, and down this way you have inductive thinking. That goes that away. Now let’s look around the other way and let’s say we have deductive thinking.

How do you get a fellow under control? You… you give him anesthesia. That takes away space of action and beingness. He… he’ll abandon the space he’s in right there at the moment. Most of these things actually give a man anesthesia and he actually goes and stands on the other side of the room someplace. He just moves out. He says, „I am unaware, I don’t have anything to do with it.“ And then he moves out. The thetan does, GE stays there and takes it… the GE’s rough, also not very aware.

Now you know what those are. One is… one is you get a file of data together. Deductive thinking is you get this big mass of data and you go out and you hire a lot of pack rats and… and you hire all kinds of people and you just have them haul in data. And they haul in data the way we were having heads hauled in there today. And they keep hauling in data and hauling in data and they keep mounding it up in big piles and there’s somebody sitting there coordinating the data, coordinating the data, coordinating the data. And trying to learn something from coordinating all this data. That is deductive thought.

But did you ever run these operations where the preclear insists that he’s on the other side of the room? We used to insist that he get in valence. Tough, I mean that’s rough. Well, it worked. We… we made… we made advances in spite of that.

And they finally get enough of these data related, and so they’ve got the data related and they come to an inevitable conclusion through having observed all collected data. That’s one way of doing it.

Anyway, here we have - we’ve asked this fellow to abandon energy, he’s not to move around while he’s being sawed up. And we’ve asked him to abandon control of an object, namely his body. We’ve asked him to abandon space. Asked him to abandon energy and asked him to abandon an object and boy! He’s unaware.

Here’s the other way of doing it. These are both extremes. This is the philosophic method. The philosophic method goes along this line. It says, „You know, I guess… so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so.“ And the fellow looks around to see if there’s any data to support this and finds there one or two, says, „Well, that’s all right.“ Otherwise no.

Now actually you could just ask a person to vacate just… just move them out so that… they’ve abandoned control of space, energy and an object, I mean abandoned control of it, really abandoned control of it by saying, „Well, I can’t control that.“ That person is under control; that person becomes an effect. That’s the way people go down tone scale. The gradient scale of going down tone scale is the degree that one abandons space, energy, and objects. This could go on. I could tell you a lot more just right along the line of theta clearing.

Inductive reasoning comes a cropper very easily because most of your ancients… You take somebody like oh… uh… lu… let’s take… let’s take modern ones, let’s take… uh… the repeal of Ohm’s Law. Uh yeah… Hegel was a very interesting boy. Uh… you… you could… The… the Piazzi went out and discovered by the way an eighth planet and the same day practically that he announced the discovery of the eighth planet… ah… Hegel had written a book proving that because seven was a perfect number, there could only be seven planets. And so Piazzi’s discovery of the eighth planet was like to get lost in the intellectual world because they accepted Hegel. Seven was a perfect number, they thought in that bracket. I mean that’s uh-na-na-na, this is all, uh-hum. And… and you come along and you say to ‘em, „Hey, why don’t go out and take a look at least at this universe.“ And… and they wouldn’t have understood that. Science came into being on this other route: deductive.

A lot of auditors go at it on this basis. They say, „Now let’s abandon the space of a body.“ I mean this is the kind of feeling they put out. „Let’s abandon the space of the body, let’s abandon all that energy and let’s get out of that object and move back - now! Now are you all in control of the physical universe you and feel better?“

They got so fed up with the repeal of Ohm’s Law and the lack of cooperation here. Practically every one of Newton’s laws has been thrown into the ash can by so-called philosophers in the past. I mean, and people were more likely to accept it. They’d sit around and they’d say, „Well, now, let’s see… let’s see, on the banks of the Nile there are crocodiles. Ah yes, there are crocodiles on the banks of the Nile. That’s a lovely word, crocodile. Here are all these jars on the banks of the Nile. The crocodile is therefore. is inanimate.“

„No, no.“ The guy is practically unconscious. He doesn’t know whether he’s going or coming. He’s in terrible state instantly. And the reason he’s in terrible state is you’ve reduced him in consciousness. You’ve told him to abandon space, abandon energy, and abandon an object. No, no, the proper slant on theta clearing is to ask him to assume control of more space, to develop more energy and to demonstrate to him he can have an unlimited number of objects. You know most preclears haven’t got any space to move into. That space three feet in front of them is non-occupiable. That belongs to somebody else. That space one inch in front of their noses is unoccupiable. It belongs to somebody else. And what do you know, that space one inch behind the nose is not occupiable. It belongs to somebody else. This gets so bad that the fellow doesn’t even own the space the body’s in.

You say that’s completely nonsequitur. Well, so it is. But they’d take crocodile and they’d say a crocodile must have been named because of crocks, so that proves that a crocodile is inanimate and therefore crocodiles don’t move.

The body doesn’t even own the space the body is in, it belongs to the Administration or somebody. Now, you… you get these two directions then you can go from this by asking him to abandon space, energy, and objects, abandon them. He will go down tone scale and will go into an… a state of unawareness. Now as he gradually goes into a state of unawareness, he is taking less and less responsibility of course because that’s… responsibility simply means control of, admission of control of space, energy, and objects. So he goes down tone scale and he’s easier and easier to control so somebody else can now control him. Somebody else… he… somebody else has to give him space and energy and objects.

An explorer comes back in and he says, „I was down on the banks of the Nile and there’s… there’s this little child down on the banks of the Nile and this great big crocodile jumped off the hank and was about to…“

That’s a welfare state. They give all their citizens space. Well, now, the state is giving you a place to live. Yeh, and the state gives you work. And the state is going to give you food and cars and one pair of shoes per citizen. And the state is also going to give you a medal if you’re a good boy. The state has assumed complete control of the individual and what happens to these individuals? They go into an hypnotic trance. The state says the moon is made of green cheese. It says right here that uh… Rosaline Kokabum uh… in the year 1821 flew to the moon and made a complete survey and inspection of this in order to throw at the capitalistic system. And here… here is the moon and it’s all been discovered and nailed down and it’s now under our banner. And the citizenry says, „Gong, yeh the moon is made out of green cheese.“

„Wait minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. We know you’re lying because crocodiles can’t move.“

See what a wonderful system.

„Well, why can’t they move?“

The capitalistic system does different than that. It says, „If you don’t do exactly what we tell you to do, we’re going to take your space away from you, and we’re going to take your energy away from you, and boy, are we gonna take objects away from you.“ It is… so you see it’s higher toned. It just says it’s going to do this. Occasionally makes an example of somebody.

„Well, it’s out there in that latest philosophic test and so forth that crocodiles sit on the banks of the Nile motionlessly.“ And he proves it conclusively.

Well, so you see now what we’re… we’re talking about. We’re talking about engrams. Uh… comes around to an engram. An engram is a moment of pain and unconsciousness by old definition. Let’s… let’s redefine it.

So inductive logic came into disgrace and science made a terrific leap forward by insisting that it be real and when they said real they meant does it compare with this universe. And they went out and they compared all their data to this universe and then they come a cropper too. They come to an extreme. They gather data, and gather data, and gather data and they take 50 million monkeys and set them down to 50 million typewriters or something of the sort and they… they think if you wrote for 50 million years you would eventually come out with all this stuff.

An engram is a period of no responsibility. An engram is a period where the individual has abandoned control of and ownership of space, energy, and objects. An engram is a period of where the individual has abandoned space, energy, and objects.

No, I’m afraid that thinking takes about half of each. You… you… you get an inductive idea. You… you say, „You know that sort of looks like it’s so“ and you push that around a little bit and you find some data there. And you say, „You know, that oughta predict a whole lot of data.“ All right, it looks like data in this field, therefore let’s sort through all the data in this field and see if it comes back to that same conclusion. Does it? Okay, it does. That’s all we want to know.

Now, if you put that definition down, it becomes much more understandable when we start to define space, energy and objects and find out what they are in terms of experience. But you can see that right now, you can connect that up. Now to run an engram, running an engram is a method of Standard Operating Procedure 1950 or 1951. It is a method of making the individual reassume control of a period where he has abandoned control of space, energy, and objects. You make him reassume control of, by going through it again and running through it again and demonstrating to him that he had a better control of it than he supposed. And so you run it and you run it and you run it.

That’s plenty. So here you could say that we’re working from all data and over here one datum. You have a map of logic. You’re… you’re working over here from all data in this universe and you got yourself a whole… ah… circle, so it goes from one datum and it keeps on winding right straight back to this datum here.

Now, some individuals, you put them down on the couch and the individual lies down there and he grimly folds his hands on his chest. And you say, „All right, now let’s go to the beginning of the incident, now what is the first phrase?“

Now, the useability of one of these circles is as good as it encompasses. And you’ve actually got to step out of this time circle, because that’s… that’s a time circle, in order to get anyplace and look at anything very broadly.

„What incident?“

You’ve., you’ve got to get off of this WHY. Why means, what is the cause of it. And you say, „What is the cause of it? Well, the cause of it is“ oh, you mean what made it? Hell, all right.“

You say, „Well, now looking for this incident, has to do with this somatic in your foot.“

And this guy says, „Well, what made get made it? And then what made what… what made what made it?“ And you just back up and you get all the whole world, everything in the universe, all this pile of data, everything that’s in the universe, is right next door to one datum.

„Well, I can’t see anything. I can’t feel anything. You know my feeling of reality’s such I don’t even know that foot’s there. Now you ask me to run an incident about this and you know I couldn’t run any incident about this and there is no incident connected with this. And you say this has to do with the mother… you say it shows up on this… this meter thing here, that shows up that this is because I’m trying to get even with my mother or my mother’s trying to get even with me or I’ve done an overt act or whatever that is. I don’t know what these things are but I just… I just don’t see anything and this is a lot of bunk.“ And this guy can get pretty excited after a while.

Now, if you get that one datum, and if that one datum would evaluate everything over here, you have an expanded circle about as big as one universe can take. And now supposing we’re embracing a lot of universes. They’re disrelated in times, they’re disrelated in location, characteristics, and everything else. How in the name of common sense would you relate them? Well, here you would get something that would look… look like this. There… there’s… there’s circles, there’s… there’s circles. And each one of those is one of these circles. See, that one and that one.

You’re just… you’ve done just this… this trick actually. Finally we know. What… what have you done when you failed to get an occluded case running? You just failed to use a gradient scale. That’s all. You started diving to make this guy take over responsibility for lots of space and lots of energy and lots of objects all at once. You said, „Okay.“ Now without even giving him a pep talk you just suddenly said, „All right, now let’s take over control of space, energy, and objects. Let’s go, Bud. You’re on your own.“

Well, you want to get these things adjusted around until they all coincide here. What’s there? Now, you have three or four, three or four disrelated piles of data with which to evaluate a datum. Now you say this one datum explains all of these, and here from this one datum you’ve got to be able to make all this data, and for each one of these circles of logic there’s got to be an all-data circle.

„Oh.“ This guy just - he’s got no engram bank - he’s got no mind. He’s gone, he’s been gone for a long time. When you start theta clearing, you’ll recognize this fellow instantly. You’ll recognize what his trouble is. He isn’t occupying the space you’re trying to get him out of.

And then you can evaluate this one by this one by this one by this one. Your minimum number of this is two. You have two. That’d be the minimum number. But it’s just like you can’t take a navigational position on which you can count even vaguely unless you have three lines. It takes a third line to check two lines, so let’s put this in terms of navigation and we’ll take three and we’ll have… there’s its wheel and its wheel and its wheel. What’s there? Is that still there? Yeah, that’s Q-l.

And… the quicker an auditor learns that the happier he is because he… he can just break his heart over some of these cases, he says, „Move them out… move them out? Hell, they’re not in!“ They’re negatively out. Not… not only are they not in their heads, but they have to be collected from a lot of places they have run to and put in their head so that they can then be moved out of their heads. Now, you ask him and if you ask on a gradient scale, the funny part of it is if you use this principle we’re using right now you can actually run on the people you haven’t been able to run them on before, locks, secondaries, and engrams.

Q-1 evaluates the data of any universe. You don’t have to have specialized data. And you see we fortunately have a large number of universes available. Have a very large number of universes available.

Now, how do you do this? You just uh… run him through a little moment of his life - doesn’t matter whether it’s a pleasure moment or a bad moment or a good moment or anything else. Just… just run him through a little section of his life whereby he did own something. You make him remember something really real to him when he was in communication with something. See ARC Straightwire. And what did we find out empirically - found out that ARC Straightwire would do an awful lot for the psychotic and neurotic. And the break point of the psychotic was the moment when he could remember something absolutely real. He’d really experienced quite a surge the second he did that. Why? Uh… you’ve given him ownership of one one hundredth billionths to the umpety-umpth power of uh… space and energy. You’ve just given him this tiny little thing. It’s almost immeasurable. But he’s all of a sudden said, „Hey, I can own something. I can control something. What do you know, there was a moment… there’s a moment in my past that I can control.“ He says, „Sigh.“

Available to you right now, you have the MEST universe and your own universe. You also have somebody else’s universe available. Some… somebody’s universe as far as logic is concerned and so forth. So you’ve got three universes. You’ve got the data I’m giving you. That’s a universe. You’ve got the MEST universe. Not in that order of magnitude; what I’m giving you is far more important. Uh… and you’ve got your own universe. And of these three the most important one is your own, because you can be certain of it. Mostly because you can he a hundred percent in control of it. And if you just start working up to a hundred percent in control of this universe, these two other universes fall into line as a category.

Now if you went on from there and just built that as a gradient scale using reality of all things. I mean… mean… trying to process reality, so called laughingly, is, actually, it turns out, a low scale method of looking at things. Why should you process reality when you can make it? Now your preclear all of a sudden gets the idea he can make it. And whether that idea’s right or wrong or bad or good that’s… that doesn’t matter, he… he just gets awfully… an awful lot better. What’s the idea of processing this when you can nacho it. But we’ll go on and talk about these anyway.

And what’s standing there at the center of the three universes is that datum, the capability of theta.

If you could run a lock, no matter how brief, that restored some space to him, it was actually true. He did have the right to go into the woodshed without getting spanked. Boy, why, that’d be a big game. You’d restored to him some space in the past which had been denied to him consistently. You would work on him entering rooms or entering boxes or entering something until at last he could find a time when he had entered something. And you could run the times when he didn’t want to enter to the point where he now feels free to enter the woodshed. Of course, it’s been forty years ago since he was spanked in that woodshed, but you’d find today that if he were to go out toward the woodshed, he would get to feeling rather odd. Somebody was really taking space, energy, and objects away from him.

That’s a theoretical capability, it’s not something on which you can chew. It’s not something on which you can feed the dog or advertise, or anything of this sort. It isn’t something which traditionally they say, „Sense, measure, or experience.’ That’s very great - sense, measure, or experience. It’s a good thing that experience is sitting there, because you can experience it. You can experience it with your own universe and as you go on up the line… as you go well on up the line, you start to experience it very broadly. You would experience it more and more broadly and all of a sudden you’d say, „Well, I don’t know what capability I eight be able to obtain but I certainly have this low level capability of being able, this kindergarten stuff, of… of being able to manufacture in any space… uh… energy, matter, objects… uh… and… uh… manufacture space in which to have energy and objects. I… I can do that, that’s very simple, nothing much to that. I wonder what’s above that level?“

All right, so we’ve given him back a little piece of space. Now did he have the right to do something? We’ll find out who said he didn’t have the right to do something, we’ll block that off, knock that off.

Well, as long as a fellow is sitting using energy in a MEST object in the MEST universe, where everything is very nicely interdependent, in such a degree that he has to talk in terms and can only talk in terms of action and symbols for objects, now to try and go up and explain a nothingness… You see? Because it isn’t a nothingness.

Now, did he have the right to control his own shoes? That might be too tough. Did he have the right to comb his own hair? Did he have the right to… to… to own something? An object? And control something - did he? Yeh. What do you know he suddenly - humpf. And the next just go over it again, some more space. See, energy is an action and an object. And you just - if you just kept going up the gradient scale of incidents and finding incidents that are just a little wider, just a little bigger, a little more space, a little more doingness, a little more objects in them, you could run locks and secondaries and engrams.

Theta is not a nothingness. It just happens to be an exterior thing to this universe so you couldn’t talk about it in this universe’s terms, that’s all. But as far as this universe’s terms are concerned, we can define it. And that is just a little bit of a triumph, to tell you the truth.

What’s a secondary? A secondary’s a very severe moment of loss. It’s either anger against losing, uh… fear of losing, or fear because one has lost, or the recognition that one has lost and apathy is not only has one lost but one will never be able to gain again. So we’ve got that. We’ve known that for a long time so let’s move in on a secondary just to that degree.

How did this thing get located? Well, once upon a time, sitting down in Phoenix and I was monkeying around and I… I… I knew there was something there, I kept bumping into it.

In the first place, does he own anything in present time. Is anything his? And the fellow will sort of fumble around and, „Let’s see a tie, no, a tie was given me by my Aunt Bertha and I always had to be careful of Aunt Bertha’s things and the shoes and so forth. I work for this company and this company has… gives me everything I own practically. And… and… uh… gee, I don’t own… own that really. The house belongs to my wife. Let’s see, the car… that car belongs to the finance company. Uh… let’s see, uh… umm. Hey you know there’s a toothpick in my top drawer that I think I own.“ „How do you know you own that toothpick?“ „Well, I carved it out myself.“ Go in on that gradient scale and let him take possession of what is his and you’ll find that is a… that is a very interesting process.

You know the two-dimensional… story of the two-dimensional worms? There’s a two-dimensional plane and these two-dimensional worms go running around and living on this two-dimensional plane and having a perfectly wonderful time and they’re running around, and one day one of them runs into a pole. Crunch. And he says, „No pole there.“

Well, what do you know, the fellow the first thing you know the fellow will be able to run a secondary. He lost his pappa - you want to get grief off him, there’s no reason you have to get grief off him anymore. But you want to get grief off this fellow, work this basis of a loss. What does he own? What could he lose? What could he safely lose? What could he not get along without? First thing you know, his sphere of ownership starts going up on objects.

So I went off and sat down for a while and I said, „You know, there isn’t any pole there, couldn’t be any pole there, no.“ But of course, I’m a professional pole-looker-forer. I have a… uh… a mania. When I get bruised or something or other on some pole it’s a personal affront - it isn’t just a matter of calm orderly discovery - that a pole could be there without getting my permission for it. That’s the way most anybody feels, by the way. That a pole could be there without getting your permission - that’s an insult. There’s only one thing you can do about it and that’s go back over and look at the thing. And I passed right over the ground again. And there was no pole there.

What could he do and what can’t he do - and his sphere of action starts going up. What can he be, what can’t he be - and his sphere of space starts going up. Okay, you have to get him up so far until he can cry over something because most guys are in apathy on this.

Well, I turned around and I came back and I ran square on into it and took a good look at it.

For seventy-six trillion years this MEST universe has been playing the game, now look at yours. You got it now? You’re thoroughly attached to it, now you’re sure you own it - you’re sure now? YANK! I said, „Well, I guess that one wasn’t yours. Now here’s something else for you.“ And this… this game has… has the root of many evils.

Now, here was the funny thing, here was the funny thing. I started to examine, I started to examine facsimiles and I found out that electronic flows were generated by facsimiles. Now, I was waving a few meters and cathode-ray-tubes around in the air and I was doing a very Einsteinesque, who has… only… the observer has the right to look at a meter and no other right. He can observe, he preferably would stand with a blank everything in front of him except a hole, and that hole would be on the needle of the meter. And the only thing he’s got a… any… any right… right to say or see or do anything else is just that meter, and the number of it that… that he reads. Now that’s the way you have to do this stuff. You have to limit it down with terrific severity.

All right, a lock is a light incident. Locks stand on top of… and multiply because of secondaries and engrams. A fellow loses Grandma, that’s a secondary, grief charge. He loses Grandma and he goes on from there gathering locks about loss of people till he gets frantic, he’s afraid to lose anything. He’s afraid to lose his watch of he feels he’ll commit suicide if he lost another thing in his life.

Well, I was a very good boy, I sat there, I read ohmmeters and cathode-ray tubes, and E-meters and so on and it was just becoming more and more obvious. So I… one day I said, „I wonder if… h… hey, that’s a funny thing, I wonder if… ah… you know you should be able to get a DC flow. Ah. All right, let’s get a DC flow. Hmm. What do you know.“ And I said, „Well you can take an old facsimile here, an old facsimile there and you can put these two things in proximity and if you put them in close enough proximities you can get a trickle of electricity going across the terminals, that’s nice, real nice and it measures on a cathode-ray tube, now isn’t that fascinating? Hah!“

What’s a secondary? Just that major loss. A lock that stands on a physical pain engram of just moments when he is reminded that he has a big moment of physical pain and unconsciousness. And so he goes a little bit unconscious every time he thinks this thing is coming back in again. And he wants that engram because he can’t trust himself to act fast enough in an emergency. He’s learned he can’t act fast enough in an emergency. He thinks he’s learned this so the way to do it is to set it up in such a way that he gets an automatic machine that goes zip-bomp and does it for him.

Well, that’s fine. That’s what facsimiles are for and that’s one of the reasons why we have experience. All right, now let’s go on a little bit further than that. Now, can you take this current and start reversing it? Zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, zing, yup, yup. And all of a sudden it starts to speed up and what do you know. It reads on an AC meter. And you say, „That’s wonderful! Look, man is basically an AC generator.“

Where do people go to pieces? They go to pieces at the moment where they conceive that they can’t trust themselves anymore. When they can’t trust themselves, they have to trust something else. There’s nobody else they can trust, so they fix up an engram bank and trust it.

Well, now let’s just go just a little bit further than this and let’s look this over real good and let’s see if we can’t get a condenser action. Now if we can get a condenser action, we’re smack, Mac. And so I set it up to get a condenser action by holding and getting the preclear to hold one facsimile there and to hold another facsimile there and not let them discharge in any way or shape or form. Just hold them there, I don’t care if it requires two hours, I don’t care if it requires six hours, if it requires twelve hours, let’s hold those two in place and not let them vary even vaguely.

Or in the fear of action, they go out and build a temple and put an idol on the altar and trust it. Or they go down to Las Vegas and say, „We’ll leave it in the hands of Lady Luck.“ They shed responsibility in the hopes that… to which they had shed the responsibility will be theirs again. There you get the interplay.

And of course, you do it for a very short time and those facsimiles go BOOM! It’s… it’s just inevitable. You could set those things up just as nice as you please.

How do you run locks and secondaries and engrams then? Run them on a gradient scale of restoring confidence in one’s ability to control space, energy and objects. And you can use SOP 50, you can use THE ORIGINAL THESIS. As a matter of fact, there’s a better technique in THE ORIGINAL THESIS, I think, than 1948. All these things run with it.

What you’re getting there, you’re getting… you’ve got one facsimile here and one facsimile here and you insist on them not going together and of course there’s a flow already established which is trying to drive then together, so you just insist on that staying there. And sometimes you have to hold it there for a couple of hours, but if you… you hold it there long enough, you will eventually get it going FLASH! right in your face. It’s a very fascinating experiment. Leave it to somebody else to make future experiments. It gives you a cold. It blows your nose up and explodes a ridge or two into your face.

Uh… you use that, you can run any engram in the bank. If you can’t run an engram, you have to run something like it. Okay, did that clear up a few things? On… you can always run an engram on a preclear providing you don’t insist on running an engram heavier than he can run. You sort of knew that once upon a time, but how do you sneak in on it? Well sneak in on it by running a lock, restoring him like that.

Well, I already knew from running incidents on the track that facsimiles could explode. This was fairly simple. Now another datum wandered in. You could put a mock-up up there, you could put a… imagine an aesthetic scene of some sort and it would get dark. And you could put another aesthetic scene up and it’d get dark and you could put another aesthetic scene up and it would get…

Now there’s one more point I’d like to make with regard to that. There’s one more slight point, is that the over-all idea of locks, engrams and secondaries and so on, is handled now by creative processing. You have to know what locks, secondaries, and engrams are to be able to handle them as such, otherwise you won’t take the creative processings uh… handily enough. But you handle directly, very directly, you handle them by getting the preclear to own his own space, his own energy, and his own objects. And when he owns his own space, energy, and objects - heck! - MEST universe stuff - phooey!

You say, „Hey, wait a minute. You mean the guy’s discharging himself onto these aesthetic scenes.“ It’s just as nice as you please. Isn’t that fascinating?

Not only, he hasn’t just abandoned it, he can just take ownership of it like mad. So handle these things in the far run of it with creative processing; handling preclears, you know this fellow’s got an engram, you know he’s got Fac One, you know he’s got something else. Handle with creative processing. But don’t lose sight of the fact that you are handling something he considers an… an existing entity.

Discharge, discharge, and… and he keeps wiping the scenes off and he puts another scene there and he wipes that off and he puts… Well, what do you know. Now wait a minute. If you took that scene? All right. Let’s… is that scene really an electronic scene, let’s find out if it really is.

Let’s take a break.

Uh… we’re looking at a meter, you understand.

When we get an explosion, it isn’t what the preclear feels with his intuition. It… it knocks the E-Meter pins off, or it burns the coils out or it does something like that. I mean there’s noth… nothing mild or hard to read… uh… if there’s any meter left after one of these explosions

One of the boys out in California, by the way knocked the hole, not only knocked a hole through the electrode of an E-Meter - that is, knocked the hole right straight through the tin of the can – but also through the hand of the preclear.

Well, anyway, we took this thing, aesthetic facsimile, and took another mean ornery no-good facsimile, see, and took the two things and said, „Allright, now one, two, three BOOM!“

Sure enough, you move the aesthetic facsimile onto any old kind of a facsimile you’ve got from yesterday or something of the sort and you put the two things together with relative suddenness and you get an explosion and it registers on a meter. Good, good. Man creates energy, obvious.

Now let’s try and take and move a couple of other old facsimiles together, we can get energy there. But… „Now wait a minute,“ I said. „He, look… look he created that aesthetic facsimile. That wasn’t MEST universe experience. The old MEST universe had left the latchstring out on that one.“ And there it was right there.

There’s a… there’s a… there’s a factor that quite… wouldn’t quite figure. You’ve done a mock-up and here’s this mock-up and obviously it’s just your imagination. Now that obviously doesn’t have any energy in it, and if it did have any energy in it… it must have gotten it someplace else. But here’s an instantaneous mock-up appearing. You… you look up there, there’s no ridges, there’s nothing. You just make this mock-up. And you take that mock-up and you slap it into another facsimile and it goes pam! and zing! goes the meter on the machine.

Hey, hey, hey. Is it possible that man is actually creating electricity? If so, then what would take place?

So I started figuring… already knew a lot of wavelengths come down this way and that way and it would be from zero to an aesthetic band. Aesthetic band’s evidently along in that band someplace and then that comes right on down the line and gets into heavier and heavier material and links and forms and energy contents and masses and efforts, and what do you know. He can evidently create this. And what’s this stuff we’re looking at? This stuff we’re looking at is evidently some manifestation of thought.

It… thought makes something else, makes something else, makes something else and that finally winds up something else. Now you know if you’ve ever listened to Technique 88 tapes, that we’re right down the groove on the Technique 88 tapes saying that this universe is evidently a composition of thought energy of some wave or another which has become timeless. There’s quite a bit of talk in there about the timelessness of something.

If you’ve ever tried to run an apathy somatic out of anybody, you’ll understand what I mean about timeless. MEST universe and apathy are very closely related. You start to get an apathy incident, the preclear feeling apathetic, you start running this out and boy that’s just slow freight. You just grind that thing out, and you grind it out and you might as well be rubbing his head against a rock. Then all of a sudden it one day occurred to me that, sure, timelessness. The timelessness of MEST was a sort of an apathy. All right, we were already on that track, so we could say there’s a gradient scale of thought that leads down to this.

And it wasn’t this: thought is no good because it is just the same as electricity. I mean that would be a materialist standpoint.

Uh… the… uh… a lot of people like Pasteur, or some field of phrenology… I don’t know what they call themselves, phrenologists? Uh… something around that order. Uh… philatelists. No, no it’s not… that’s’ not… that’s not right. I’ll… I’ll think of it in a minute.

Anyway, we got… we got all this whole field was saying, „Thought is something else and the energy of thought isn’t existing and it is something else than electric lights and that’s a kind of electricity…“ You’ll find out everywhere you see that written up. They’ll say… be very careful to say, „Well, it’s something else.“

It never occurred to anybody… never occurred to anybody that thought was good enough and high enough and powerful enough to create something like that. That this would be the result of a heck of a lot of… of energy piled up which was actually a generated energy which would eventually get into masses, and which therefore could act and react and so forth as masses.

Well, we got this energy mass and when you get an energy mass next an energy mass you get all sorts of… Wait a minute… wait a minute… wait a minute… wait a minute. There’s something about that. Let me think, there’s something about that. Oh, I know what the name of those people are - psychologists.

Well, anyhow, the… the… the… uh… it… it suddenly occurred - this is just the line of approach; I just mention it to you perhaps for clarification of what we’re doing - we have… astonishingly enough they left a hole in electricity.

So therefore if we knew this much more about electricity, we should be able to look over electricity and find out if there wasn’t something left out of electricity. And so I just started thinking over very hard and so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so and all of a sudden I was looking at the alternating current formula. And the alternating current formula won’t furnish alternating current if you evaluate it very sharply, because… because the… there’s one ingredient they don’t talk about. And… uh… there’s this ingredient. And you’ve got a terminal there, you see, you’ve got a terminal - they can be in the term of two magnets or coils or whatever you want - two terminal: positive and negative. And they… they sit there… they sit there and something revolves between the two things and then… then… that it goes this way and that way and you get alternating c… It won’t do it!

If you just had that formula and you didn’t have an alternating current generator, and if you’d never seen one, something of this sort, it’s very doubtful if you could build one. Unless by intuition or something of this sort, it suddenly struck you that there was another part to the machine they never mention. And that’s the base.

I know, that’s too simple. That’s much too simple, but it happens to be horribly true. You’ve got to have a base.

Now somebody says, „Is that the logarithmic base you’re talking about? And… or is that… that… that the base… of conclusions? Or… uh… something of that sort?“ There’s even something more than that which I won’t bother to go into about, OAC.

But there has to be a plus-minus for the minus side and there has to be a minus-plus for the plus side in order to get an interchange between these two. But more important than that… that - the dickens with that - is the base. And we’re talking just about the base of a generator, or the base of a motor. We’re just talking about the platform on which it stands which is made out of iron or wood or steel or something of the sort and which supports and keeps apart the terminals. That’s all we’re talking about. Just that horrible little simple thing. That base is sitting there keeping those terminals apart.

What’s keeping the terminals apart? That base of course. Oh no, it’s not! That base has to be… that base is bolted down to the table. And we have this base and we have a positive terminal and a negative terminal and there’s a wheel goes round and round and round. And the wheel, the generator spinner… when nothing could happen there at all if those things weren’t held rigidly apart, because it depends on their being held apart that they be permitted to have tension put on them.

If you just took two terminals and just set them up according to the formula and so on, every time you tried to turn anything over or furnish any effort in the thing, why the two terminals would simply go bang! And there’d be no current. And you’d it’d… you’d separate them very carefully and you’d turn the thing over again and they’d just go together. Their magnetism in other words would keep pulling them together. And you wouldn’t get a current through that line at all. They’ve got to be held rigidly apart.

Well, to need something to hold them rigidly apart, you’d have to have a base. And… and the base is bolted down to the top of a table. And the table is on the concrete floor of a… well… hey, wait a minute! Where are we going here? The concrete floor of a building and the building is on Earth and Earth is by centrifugal force and gravity riveted to the sun out here and the sun is in an equilibrium according to some other star… wait a minute… and those other stars are in equilibrium with accordance to a galaxy which is held in equilibrium, what do you know, by another galaxy which is by an island acr. Where are we going? Well, brother, we’s on the way to God.

And you extrapolate all this back again and you’ll find out, what do you know, that it’s absolutely essential to locate something in space and time in order to produce an electrical flow. And the highest order of action then that you could figure out, for an electrical flow would be something that located in a space some somethings which could discharge from one to the other and then, and only then, would you have an electrical flow.

Okay, let’s take a break.