It so happens when an individual receives a pain, or which is to say, he's got effort faced with counter-effort, he will give attention to that spot. This is a mechanism the body operates on. When you are hurt, you give your attention to what is hurting you. If you fail to do this, you won't survive as a physical body. The body won't survive, and this is nonsurvival.

So, there is what is known as a threshold of pain. This translates into the degree of attention which is attracted to the body. Pain becomes unbearable. The moment of unbearableness of pain is when all of one's attention goes into the effort to hold it back - pain is unbearable at that point.

Any subject which is attempting to codify knowledge wants as little as possible to do with loose ends – with exceptions. I love these so-called laws which begin "Now, the following theory so-and-so and so-and-so is absolutely true." And then it lists exceptions and it lists practically everything that should have been covered by the law, and then it lists doubtfuls – everything else, We don't want any loose ends hanging out on this at all. As a consequence, I have to go into this subject to keep it in the MEST universe and to handle it in the second echelon, the MEST universe. I am not talking to you now, particularly, in the third echelon.

After that point, one keeps his attention there but surrenders to it. So there's actually a precise point of effort-counter-effort where one distracts all of his attention to that point.

You see, now there are three echelons: The first is simply considering the organism. First echelon, which was Dianetics, is considering the organism as it. It is just it, that's all. It's an organism. It is a body and it is a mind and it is a brain and it's all one. And it's a unit and it's an individual, and it gets conceived and is born and it dies and that's that. And it considers it as very much a part of the MEST universe. Now, considering it from that angle, you can still produce very good results.

And you'll find out that any sharp or severe counter-effort which a person has received in the past has invited his attention to that spot. In other words, his effort to do something about this counter-effort has gone to that spot. Therefore, in facsimiles you find that the attention assigned by the facsimile is toward the exact point of the counter-effort, and the action is toward arresting the counter-effort.

The second echelon considers the identity or the description of – an accurate and demonstrable description of – thought itself as something which is not of the MEST universe.

Therefore, you actually have to distract the person's attention from the counter-effort in order to do something about the facsimile. The counter-effort is not going to come in any further. It's simply not going to come in any further as long as the preclear's attention remains there.

Now, the third echelon is a study of why did it all come about in the first place and why is it happening.

Now, almost anyone in the normal band is engaged in holding back quite a few counter-efforts. All you have to do to convince a person of this is to say, "Now let's feel alive in your foot. Now let's feel alive in the other foot. Now let's feel alive in the right ear. Now let's feel alive in the left ear." And all of a sudden, bop! He - you will have gotten his attention off of some old facsimile, some counter-effort, that he has experienced in the past. And when you do, it will come in on him a little bit more.

We are still very much in "how" when I start talking to you about the MEST line, the MEST body line – that is to say, the genetic line – its offshoots of the dead body line, and the theta body line.

Well, of course, you want this counter-effort to exhaust, and it's never going to exhaust as long as the individual has his attention centered on it. Of course!

You will find cases to which you will have to apply the knowledge I am about to give you in order to resolve those cases.

Now, the concentration of attention on counter-effort is the main mechanism of estimating what to do with effort. And when it gets up to the degree of pain - heavy counter-effort - attention becomes fixed.

It will sound, perhaps, mad and wild to you, but that's nothing compared to how it will sound to the preclear. And that is nothing compared to the confusion in which you will find the preclear because of this.

If you've ever watched anybody being subjected to pain, you'll have - see that they fixed their attention on the point of impact of the pain and then successively, immediately after that, failed to keep their attention there, and their attention began to wander. And it wandered too much. They just went all over the place. Their body writhes and so forth - their attention goes all over the place.

Now, anything which tends to reduce the amount of confusion and upset in a preclear, in other words, to advance him further up the track toward knowingness, is legitimate processing – anything. Education, anything. You can teach a person Scientology and find them coming up in tone, just because it's closer to the truth than they have ordinarily been progressing.

Well, these things, conditions, exist in facsimiles. So in some facsimiles the pain is so intense and the counter-effort has come in so far that a person's entire and complete attention is wandering. It's all over already. And what you're going to try to do to resolve that counter-effort is get him to fix his attention on the counter-effort itself. And when you can fix his attention on it, then something will happen to the counter-effort and it will change.

In all of the fields of knowledge, a unification of knowables is desirable.

But when the person's attention in the facsimile is riveted on the counter-effort, you've got to get his attention off the counter-effort in order to get the counter-effort to work out.

And when I start talking to you about the individual and individuality, I have to take in factors which, when you look at preclears, you will find to be very, very much in evidence. These factors consist of the fact that one theta body can take care of several individuals and ordinarily does.

Now, therefore, as an auditor you have to either try to attract your preclear's attention to where the counter-effort is, or get his attention off of where the counter-effort is. If he's very low on the Tone Scale, it will be a matter of trying to attract enough attention to the point of the counter-effort that he can do something about it - that you can do something about it and drive it out, exhaust it and get the effort and counter-effort out of the facsimile.

What happens on the theta body line is very interesting. You find the theta body line starting out as an individuality. It progresses a little way through the MEST universe and may unite with another theta body line or two more, and then spread out from that and become several lines again.

But if he's up the Tone Scale, his own effort is more and more fixed - his attention is more and more fixed in that facsimile on the counter-effort.

In short, here you have your original theta body line, it comes along, it goes along fine, and this lifetime, it's one. And then it hits a lifetime strata and it becomes three or four. And then these three or four come in again to just one individuality again.

If you want to run an experiment on this, just follow it out on the basis of "Let's feel your attention in your left foot. Let's feel your attention in your right foot. Let's feel your attention in your right hand. Let's feel your attention in your left hand." And first thing you know, the individual will have a counter-effort come through on him.

The only conflict here is the fact that you're accustomed in the MEST universe to arithmetic. And of course when you're dealing with something which is out beyond the MEST universe, you are not dealing with arithmetic. Arithmetic is based on the MEST universe. Mathematics apply to this universe and nothing else.

The counter-effort will happen in two ways: If he's low on the Tone Scale, at the moment you put the attention on his left hand, if the counter-effort is actually running through his left hand, when his attention goes on the left hand, he will find the counter-effort there. And he'll suddenly experience a pain in his left hand. He, for the first time, is experiencing this counter-effort which has been going through him for a long, long time in the facsimile. On other people, you start shifting their . attention around and suddenly the counter-effort will come through.

Now, here you have this operation: this body line then, may go out as two bodies. You could actually track somebody back and find him living twice through the same age period. You can find him living twice in the past, through the same years. But more importantly, more important to you as an auditor, you can find a preclear living in four or six or ten entities right here on this universe at this moment. And you can demonstrate it in any way you want to demonstrate it, and even write letters to the other identities, if you want to go that far, and tell them what they had for breakfast.

Well, by fixing and unfixing the person's attention on various parts of the body, by working them back and forth, back and forth, and around and around, getting their attention off and on to the part that is being affected, you will be able to exhaust the effort and counter-effort out of the facsimile and render that facsimile null and void. You can also run emotional curves until the facsimile is null and void, because it's emotion that is actually causing this person to hold on to it. Okay.

Now, up above the line of knowingness – this knowingness is a sort of individuality; it's a sort of a manifestation in front of a curtain. Here, let us say, [marking on blackboard] is a curtain, and here is "I" over here, but back of "I" there's a lot of knowledge can be concentrated, and "I" sort of shuts that off and says, "Well, that doesn't apply to me." Well, very often it applies to him so strenuously that if he doesn't know about it, he's going to be a sick man. Now, that's no good.

Now I want to give another demonstration here.

So, we'll go down the line here, and we'll find this "I," let us say, in this life. That was one "I". Now, we take this span here with four lives, and we've got "I" here, and we've got "I" here [blackboard]. That's not back of each other, you understand; these are just curtains. And there's an "I" in front of each curtain, but actually back of this is the same theta line. Actually, back of this you have just this theta line going along; it's the same line. It just depends on how many individuals come off of it this time.

LRH: Do you have any counter-efforts hitting you? Right now?

You'll find a situation back through the evolutionary stretch where the "I" is dividing ∑, as in the Helper, And you'll find this division, division, division, division, then you'll find all the divisions sort of coming back in together, and then going all out and being different entities again and coming back in and – it's wonderful.

PC: Yeah. Yeah.

It could be very confusing if you permitted it to confuse you. The only reason you could be confused about it is you're fairly low on the Tone Scale and you said, "I'm going to be me, and that's all there is to that," and "There's nobody else is going to share any part of anything I'm doing," and "I can't be anybody else but me."

LRH: Face?

Well, that would be very nice if it would work out like that; however, it doesn't. If you notice on the column on the Chart of Attitudes, up at the top of the column, at some unimaginable number height way above 40 – you've got "everyone." You would have everyone; you really would have. It'd come back to the main theta body, the BIG theta body. And if you could back up the Tone Scale far enough or high enough, theoretically you could be everyone, theoretically. As it is, you only back up far enough usually to be a few. And very few people have backed up into "knowing" far enough to be more than a rather aberrated "me." So you see, it's just how many, how far you want to go up the line.

PC: No.

Now, in the old days there used to be this sort of an arrangement: The mystic considered this would be a master. [marking on blackboard] You see, there would be a master, and this master had in charge this many individuals, and this master monitored those individuals.

Commentator: Drop of one full point.

The second you start to clear up a preclear any distance at all, he will come up the line just about so far, and then he'll get to a point where he'll start short-circuiting.

LRH: Chest?

Now, you notice these are closer and closer together. Now, theoretically this master is a master line. It's very "knowable" – I mean, it knows a great deal; it's quite high up the Tone Scale. That's sort of like – it isn't a master. What you've run into there is your consecutive whole theta body as applies to the individuation.

PC: No. LRH: Knees?

You know, there originally, I drew this circle of theta, and showed you how this little bit broke off here and started down the line. Well, this is the little bit, really, and little bits of it are off here. And those little bits are "I."

PC: No.

Now, it'd be all very well if it worked out that smoothly, but it doesn't work out that smoothly. What happens is that they're at different degrees – they're different proximities, you might say, to this single master thing.

LRH: Feet?

So here's one that is very close in and here's one that's just a little bit out. And here's a line which is a spur line and has two. In other words, there's these various patterns.

PC: No. Back up a little bit. Gluteus maximus.

Now, this one which has the two down here at the bottom, you clear up this preclear and you'll get him there. And as soon as he gets there, he can sense the fact that he's somebody else, too, somewhere else. And he'll become quite confused. And then he'll say, "I'm me, and that other person can go to blazes."

Commentator: Needle continues to drop.

He may do that and as soon as he does that, you get a sort of a jealousy factor entering in between these two individuals who are the same individual. They won't admit their similar individuality. You can put a preclear on a machine and you can demonstrate to him how he actually has several personalities. Actually, he's in contact with several personalities which aren't aware of one another's existence at all. You make them aware of one another's existence and they'll start to demonstrate some jealousy, one to the other. One is going to be more powerful than another and so forth. Fascinating.

LRH: The gluteus maximus.

So here you have this fellow, and you're going to back this fellow up here until he lies across that line. Well, the next thing you know, he's going to start to run this person's engrams. Just like that. Well now, you're fairly all right if you go well back on the track to run engrams for this person, because then you'll run engrams which are mutual to each. What you do is run engrams that are sitting around in this, and it'll influence both of these and they'll come out to parity. They'll also come out into awareness of each other. They'll go through a symptom of worrying about "Let's see, Now, if I am me, and I am thee, too, then will I have to be aware of thee 100 percent or me 100 percent!" and "What are we going to do?" and "Supposing we're going to get all our thoughts tangled up." Well, actually, their thoughts were most gorgeously tangled up. They were really tangled, up to the time you started to process this person, because this person was being influenced from quarters he had no idea of at all.

PC: Penicillin shot. (laugh)

For instance, every once in a while you'll find a preclear who will sit around and listen to advice from somebody. He will. He'll sit around and he'll get inspirations or he'll get something from somebody else or something else, and what he's doing there is about the same equivalent, but much different – a mind-reading act, sort of. He's over on the other side taking tips from what somebody else knows. And he says, "This is inspiration. This is my intuition at work."

LRH: Oh, you got a penicillin shot.

And here's some other fellow sitting over someplace, working like mad, working something out and figuring something out. Well, that's where he's getting the data. Now, for instance, you take Kelly and Bessemer. This is a notable example – Kelly and Bessemer. One sat in England and one sat in Kentucky, and they invented – within two days of each other, completed the invention of – a process of making steel. And they call it today the Bessemer process. They might as well call it the Kelly process, because it was invented simultaneously in both places. Same guy.

PC: Yeah.

There's nothing much to this. Alexander Graham Bell busily invented the telephone here; it was simultaneously invented all over the world. There was practically every country in the world had some facsimile of Alexander Graham Bell – wonderful transfer.

LRH: On one side of the gluteus maximus?

What's quite remarkable about all of the research in which I have been engaged is it hasn't flashed up anyplace else. And that's remarkable! It has not come up anyplace else on earth. On earth. (laughter)

PC: On the right half - the right half.

But this jealousy of identities was such, actually, that in the early days when I was working on this I was experiencing a terrific anxiety. I knew the next five minutes somebody was going to appear on the stands with this first book I wrote on the subject. You see, I knew somebody else knew. I knew somebody else was working on it too. And they were. But not here on earth. Anyway ... (laughter)

LRH: On the right half. Put your attention on the left half.

Well now, what I'm talking to you about, you'll find applicable. There are preclears right here in this audience that are sort of vaguely "not me." And it's kind of "not me" a little bit. And they think to themselves, "Well, any moment now I'll be me." But you start them up the line, you get them going a little bit further and evidently something kind of bats them down again. You can't figure out what's batting them down. They start up Tone Scale and BAT – they'll go down again. Put them on the machine and simply ask them this question: "Is there somebody else holding your aberrations in place?"

PC: Put my attention on the left half.

It says "Yes" – bang, machine operates.

LRH: Put your attention on the left half.

"Where is this person?" and there'll be a little twitch, and you'll ask him – well, according to continents, Earth, anyplace else, stars, so on.

PC: That's a little difficult to do.

All of a sudden, BOW, you'll get something. Maybe the fellow is in Birmingham or something of the sort, and you've got across on the line. Well, the second you get this awareness, two things may start to happen. You may start to pick up the fellow's engrams from Birmingham. And if you do, go ahead and run them. They're common engrams on the line. But all you're doing is running locks off of common engrams. You see, it's theta, it's facsimiles, and they've got, actually, banks in common.

LRH: Well, let's put your attention now on the top of your head.

Well, your preclear has never had, really, this feeling of "I am." He never quite had this feeling, "I am." He always has this feeling, "Well, I might be if ..." Well, that "I might be if," is he's just a little bit off the line back to the main individual. He's just a little bit off the line.

PC: Okay.

You can put him back on the line again. You'll have to jockey him around a little bit, and the next thing you know, why, he'll be responding up as an individual. Nothing much to it. He will go through a period of worry.

LRH: Let's put your attention on your right foot.

Anyway, here we have – here we have here an individual going down Tone Scale. Now, actually an individual could go down Tone Scale simply by having more and more things happen to him, and he becomes more and more individuated. And he becomes so individual that he doesn't even exist in the theta body at all; he's dead. And that's very individual, to be dead. It means simply that as long as you consider the MEST organism as the only identity a person can be or have, you get into terrific complexities, because how individual can it be? Well, when it's gone 100 percent MEST, of course.

Commentator: Needle is now rising back to the original position. (pause) Needle continues to rise.

Now, watching this, then, you'll find there are complexities in auditing for which you will be, sometimes, at a little bit of a loss to account for. And by the way, this is quite remarkable: There is a mystic practice of concentrating until you get a visio. And you'll get visios in far cities, in far places, without doing any teleportation of yourself or your soul or anything of the sort. You just lie down and concentrate and get a visio. And you'll get a visio of your – of doing something. Some of this is accounted for simply by, all of a sudden, being the other you – being the other you.

LRH: Left foot.

There are probably as many as four or five fellows on earth that are almost my duplicate, for instance, physiologically. Almost – poor fellows. Now, one of these fellows used to get me in trouble all the time.

Commentator: It's still rising.

I walked up the steps of the Cuban Embassy one day and – in Washington, DC, and there was a Spaniard coming down the steps and he said, "Ay, Pedrito, como esta?" And I said, "I'm very sorry, I'm afraid I don't know you."

LRH: You gotten a somatic in that puncture yet?

And "Oh, that's all right, Pedrito. I won't tell anybody you're here." (laughter)

PC: A somatic in the puncture, yeah.

And I said, "Well, that's fine"

LRH: Yeah. You're getting a somatic in the puncture?

He said, "Well, you can even pretend you don't remember me. It's still all right, Pedrito, I'm your friend" and so forth and "I hope everything. comes out all right."

PC: Yeah, when I take my attention off these extremities, yes.

And I said, "Well, thank you," and went on into the embassy.

Commentator: Needle wavering; begins to drop.

I forgot about it until one time I was in Puerto Rico, and I was trotting down a trail and three Brazilians – Brazilian engineers – were coming up the trail on horses. They took one look at me and they said, "Ay, Pedrito, como esta?" and threw their horses across my path. And they wouldn't let me go anyplace. And then this stuff – "You can tell us. We won't write anybody. We won't let anybody know we saw you" – a big routine. And they finally had me cornered so tightly that nothing would do but what I went over and drank brandy with them and played chess; and they sure figured out I was putting on a good act. (laughter)

LRH: Yeah. You get a somatic in the puncture, okay.

To this day, none of those fellows would do anything but claim that I was putting on a good act.

PC: Yeah, in the Puncture. Yeah.

Well, a little more time went by – in another place down in Latin America, and a fellow walked up to me. I was sitting in a bar. He reached in his hip pocket, and if I hadn't kicked hard at his shins, I probably would have been a dead man.

LRH: That's right.

They threw him out promptly, and I scratched my head and I said, "I'm not in trouble with anybody down here that I can think of," Till all of a sudden I remembered, "By golly! I bet that fellow would have jumped if I had said I was Pedrito.

[to audience] You can see by that needle there, that this somatic's wearing out. His tone's coming up.

Well, fine, fine. Until, one time in Panama – one time in Panama, a girl took one look at me (the most scathing, scorching look you ever saw) in the street, sniffed, put her nose very high in the air and crossed the street diagonally. So I said, "Pedro's been here." (laughter)

[to pc] Okay, get your attention in your throat.

I finally found out who Pedro was. He'd undoubtedly run into me, too. I finally found out who he was. He was the son of a rich Brazilian family and he had the wrong political color. And he had gone bad in an awful hurry down in Brazil, and he was being looked for by the police of about five or six countries, as well as the parents of several girl.

PC: Throat. That's the place where the penicillin was given for - throat infection.

And during the war – during the war, I got a report that I had reported in at a place where I hadn't been. And my ears went up like a foxhound's, ha-ha-ha-ha, because Pedrito was a Nazi. And my picture was on file with the Federation Aeronautique Internationale as an international pilot, and those were in France. And full records of me were captured when the Germans took Paris. And, of course, all they had done was backtrack me, look me up, take ahold of Pedrito and cross orders.

LRH: Well, get your attention in your throat. All right. Get your attention in your left shoulder. Right shoulder. Right hand.

I don't know what happened to Pedrito. I often wondered what would have happened if I'd ever met Pedrito in the line of duty during the war.

Commentator: Very, very small area of the tone scale.

I am sure, though, to this day – to this day, that there is more there than just a physiological resemblance.

LRH: Left hand.

Now, possibly many of you have had this experience. You've probably seen people who looked like you or who acted like you or something of the sort.

Commentator: Just a slight fluctuation of tone.

Oddly enough, when you meet them you are apt to be a little bit cross about it. It is almost a byword that people who have the same name will be hostile to each other. People who have the same looks may be hostile to each other if they meet themselves accidentally. And it is just in that wise that – it's just in that wise that people who have or are operating from the same theta line become jealous of each other. They will actually flick across and louse each other up.

LRH: [to audience] You note here, you can give these fairly rapidly one right after the other, for an excellent reason is, the attention will just flick on the shift and go into the member named and won't stay there very long.

I am sorry to have to report that, because all should be sweetness and light. But you, every once in a while, will run into somebody on the theta line through the preclear. And if I didn't tell you this could happen, then I would not be doing well by you at all. I would be hiding something which you might need to have.

Commentator: Tone arm tending to rise.

And when you do, you or the preclear may think you have run into some manifestation similar to the guardian angel manifestation, which is entirely different again. And you will be apt to believe that the other individual is far smarter and knowledgeable than your preclear. Not so. They're both aberrees. And you will find that it's just as difficult to convince this other person to do something.

LRH: It'll go right straight back. The second he's aware of the fact that a pain is coming in at the area you're trying to work a counter-effort out of, soon as you get the - preclear becomes aware of it, he transfers his attention back to that immediately. What you're trying to do is distract him off the area - off the area enough to let the counter-effort come all the way through and wear it out. Pretty simple.

Now, I don't know how successful you can be in running out somebody else's engrams while he's walking around, eating, sleeping and so forth. I don't know how this can be done at all, but I do know this: Your preclear can go back before the point of separation and run out engrams in common which will unburden the track. And that, as near as I know, is about as far as it can go.

[to pc] All right, now I'm going to go through the nerve spots.

We have conducted an experiment of trying to run out all the engrams for the human race. That's right. We've actually sat down, with far greater thoroughness than would ordinarily be demonstrated in a laboratory, and tried to run out all the engrams of all the race.

Commentator: Needle dropped on that statement.

Interesting experiment. And the only trouble is, after we had reduced these engrams which theoretically should have been in common to everyone, we still had aberrees.

LRH: All right, let's get the center of the forehead - some feeling of center of the forehead now.

And the point is there, do we all come from a common source and is this common source, at its first impingement upon the MEST universe, subject to an aberration which if run out would then loosen up the tracks for everybody?

PC: Little somatic there...

Nope. It's not a common source to that degree. You can't find the first engram in common to everybody, as far as I can find out at this time.

LRH: Little somatic there.

Now, this may all sound very peculiar to you, but when you're exploring with new, efficient tools you're apt to find and come across data which is unknown.

PC: ... when I turned on the awareness full there.

People are quite ordinarily afraid of the unknown. They would rather have a religion than a mysticism. That's right. They would rather have – by and large, broadly, they'd rather have it all codified and presented as being very finite and down to earth, and there's one God (except there's twelve). "There's one God, and we worship twelve idols and one God. And you bat yourself this way and that and that straightens you all out. And there's somebody that you tell all this to and that squares the rap."

LRH: All right. Do you know where the vagus nerve is - right in the middle of your rib cage, below the solar plexus?

Now, that's good and simple, but it unfortunately does not make well people. So we have to look a little bit further for this line. And in all of this research, a very cold eye has been kept on fact – a very cold eye.

PC: Solar plexus, uh-huh.

What I've just told you about branch lines and so on may be something you may never run into in an auditor. Don't go asking for trouble. But you will have preclears come to you who will not be able to run their own engrams. They will start right out running somebody else's engrams. And then those engrams will promptly look, to them, highly unreal – something that couldn't have happened. And they will practically spin on it unless they know that they can run somebody else's engrams. Now, there may be a half a dozen people in the world whose engrams they can run.

LRH: All right. Get your attention in your solar plexus. Under your right armpit. Under your left armpit.

And it may be that you can get your preclear so far up the Tone Scale – way, way up the Tone Scale in all manifestations, registering very high on the machine and so forth – that you could bat around and pry into almost anybody's engram bank if you wanted to.

PC: It's warm under the pits.

That would be something else entirely. But boy, a fellow would really have to be high to do that.

LRH: Yeah.

All right. What you are interested in doing is returning to an individual all the knowledge of which he is capable as an individual. Where you want to stop his being an individual and start his being a saint, or something of the sort, is pretty well up to you and to him.

LRH: All right. Get your attention on the nerve cord that goes down the right side of your neck. Left side of your neck. The right side of your neck. Left side of your neck. Spine - attention on the twelve nerves of the spine. Let's get the lower area of the spine now. Attention on the middle area of the spine.

But I can tell you that the borderline is something that can be overstepped. It can be passed, and it will be passed with considerable upset and confusion unless you do have some inkling of what you can meet.

PC: Hm...

Now, all of our work is directed toward knowing more about more. There is a history, a complete history, to this theta line, as pertains to the inhabitants of the planet Earth.

LRH: That really came through, didn't it?

This line is very much in common, it has a certain history; its theta background is in common. Its genetic background is to some degree in common, but not to the degree of the theta line. The constant line is the theta line. The constant line is the theta line, and by the theta line I mean that line where the individual uses the genetic line to make one or many bodies that pass through time.

PC: ... sitting uncomfortably.

And the theta body inhabits the other body from just before conception until slightly after death. And this theta line is subject to several individual bodies, and it passes very happily through time.

LRH: Huh?

Now, that body we have in common pretty well – I mean, its history. The history of your theta body and the history of my theta body has terrific, terrific differences, but it has its principal incidents in common. That doesn't mean that the incident happened to you and happened to me too, but it means that an incident happened to me like the incident happened to you.

PC: I was sitting uncomfortably. I didn't know it till I did that.

& And I'm now going to give you a talk on what these incidents are &

LRH: Yeah. All right, upper spine. Center of your brain. All right, inside the knee.

PC: Which knee?

LRH: The nerve on the inside of the right knee. Nerve on the inside of the left knee. The left thigh. Nerves in the second joints of your fingers. Nerves in your toes.

Commentator: Slight drop and then a full rise.

LRH: Nerves in your right big toe. (pause) You still getting that somatic?

PC: Oh, the penicillin?

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: Well, now that you bring my attention to it, yes.

LRH: Ah, we've got it down to a dispersed point now.

PC: But it's not so strong.

LRH: All right. Move your attention from your head down to the shot area - head to the shot area. (pause) Tips of your fingers to the shot area. Just keep your attention shifting from the tips of your fingers to the shot area.

PC: Makes the somatic stronger.

LRH: Sure. Soles of your feet to the shot area (pause) Bottom of your spine up to the brain and down to the shot area. Well, what happened there? Sudden charge?

Commentator: Needle took a full-point drop.

PC: No, I happened to think of something, that when you said from the soles of the feet to the shot area, I did not go through the nervous system of the legs.

LRH: But...

PC: I just shot it from the soles of the feet via the shortest ...

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: ... path in a straight line to the shot area.

LRH: All right. How is the somatic?

PC: Oh, it's not bad.

LRH: Is it less now?

PC: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Get the effort you had, at the time you were shot, to kick the shot back out again - all through the nervous system, the effort you had. From the extremities of the nervous system, push that shot right back out again.

Commentator: Very slight fluctuation in the needle, now rising very gradually.

LRH: Get it again. (pause) Again.

Commentator: Slight drop and more rise.

LRH: Getting your effort. Again. Extremities down and bop that shot out. (pause) All right. Now get your effort to hold on to the shot.

PC: That's the one that seems to be impeding me.

LRH: That's right. Now get your effort to hold on to that shot.

Commentator: Needle has dropped a full point and a half.

LRH: To have it - your effort to have it.

Commentator: Now rising. (pause) Slight drop, rising again.

LRH: Get your: effort to have it again. Get your stomach's effort to have it.

PC: That wasn't easy.

LRH: Mm, boy.

Commentator: Full point and a half drop, now rising.

LRH: Get your stomach's effort to have it. (pause) Get your back's effort to have it.

Commentator: Continuing to rise.

LRH: Now get the postulate you made that you had to have it.

PC: Ha-ha.

Commentator: Needle dropped full point and a half.

PC: Well, it had something to do with this gimmick I've been working on that penicillin is a food, not a drug. Remember I talked to you about it?

LRH: So you had to take some.

PC: I was trying to prove something.

LRH: Yeah. Did you turn on the sore throat to prove it?

PC: No. No, no that was ...

LRH: When's the first time you agreed to have a sore throat?

PC: Directly after the wisdom tooth was extracted. Somewhere about then.

LRH: You agreed to have that, huh?

PC: Wisdom tooth extraction?

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Mm-hm. When did you first desire to have a sore throat in your life - this life?

PC: I'm trying to track this one down. It's a little hard here. I keep running into my mother with a streptococcus infection.

LRH: Did she do it to you?

PC: I get a flash of "yes," but I don't know.

LRH: Did she give you sympathy for it?

PC: For my sore throat?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: For my sore throat ...

Commentator: Needle now rising - drop, slight drop.

PC: Oh, the tonsillectomy, she gave me sympathy then.

Commentator: Rise in tone.

LRH: Mm-hm. Now let's get a time you gave some sympathy. Let's get the feeling of sympathy for somebody with a sore throat.

PC: Well, that would be for my mother.

LRH: All right. Let's get the feeling of sympathy. (pause) Get it again. (pause) And again. (pause) And again. (pause) All right, let's pick up the first time in this life you ever gave anybody sympathy and scan all the times you gave somebody sympathy right straight on up to the present time. Get the first one. Tell me when you're there.

PC: I got the first one.

LRH: All right. From there to present time, begin scanning sympathy. (snap)

Commentator: Between these questions the needle has been fluctuating approximately one goint on the scale. As the preclear scans through, the needle fluctuates. Now rising, now falling, but in a one-point variation on the scale.

PC: It keeps reverting back to the sympathy for self.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Not much sympathy for others.

LRH: Mm-hm. Who used to tell you all you did was feel sorry for yourself?

PC: My mother.

LRH: Yeah. Who did you tell it to?

PC: Me.

LRH: Who else did you tell it to? Who have you criticized to this degree?

PC: Oh, that they felt sympathy for themselves?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Oh, preclears, you know.

LRH: Oh. All right. Let's scan this line. Let's pick up the first time you ever told anybody they were just sorry for themselves and feeling sympathy for themselves.

PC: I never told them, but, you know, the thought was there.

LRH: Well, get the overt thought.

PC: The thought, that's...

LRH: Get the overt thought. Get a first overt thought.

PC: Okay. All right.

LRH: Now, scan all such thoughts forward to present time. (snap)

PC: (pause) Okay.

LRH: Are you on an emotional balance right now? Are you being very carefully balanced emotionally?

PC: No.

Commentator: Needle is dropping one-half point.

LRH: What would happen if you changed emotion?

PC: I changed emotion?

LRH: Yes. What would happen if you changed to another emotion?

PC: Changed to a different emotion?

LRH: Yes.

PC: Nothing. I might shift centers, control centers.

LRH: Well, shift them.

PC: I wouldn't know which way to go.

LRH: Are you on the right side?

PC: Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.

LRH: Is the right side mad at the left side?

Commentator: Slight drop.

PC: Conflict, there might be, yeah.

LRH: How about shifting to the left side?

PC: Shift to the left side.

LRH: Shift. (pause) This left side been awake lately?

PC: No.

LRH: Is this left side elsewhere?

Commentator: Very slight variation in the needle at this point.

PC: I've got a feeling it might be.

LRH: This left side have another organism it's taking care of?

PC: Yeah, might be. I don't know.

LRH: Might be, yeah. How about shifting center?

PC: Shifting to the center. No.

LRH: What turns on?

PC: Oh, there's a head somatic there.

LRH: You have a head somatic there?

PC: Yeah, on the - right in the center. See, it goes right down the face. You know, center of the face ...

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: ... the nose, the place where that pituitary and pineal and so forth is.

LRH: Mm-hm. All right, let's catch the bap now right in the middle of the chest. The bap in the chest.

Commentator: Half a point drop.

PC: I get - i get it in the stomach first.

All right. Get it in the stomach. You got it?

PC: Sort of, sort of. Sort of.

LRH: All right. How does the top of your head feel at the moment you get it in the stomach?

PC: Oh, that's - it's - it's pain - a somatic there right now.

LRH: All right. How do your knees feel at the moment you get it in the stomach?

PC: They shake.

LRH: All right. Let's get that. How do your feet feel at the moment you're getting it in the stomach?

PC: They are sweaty, hot, burning.

LRH: Okay. How do your hands feel at the moment you get it in the stomach ?

Commentator: Four-point rise, then a drop.

PC: Sweaty, nervous and twitching.

Commentator: Now dropping.

LRH: All right. How's the middle of your back feel at the moment you get it in the stomach?

Commentator: On this question, point - four-point drop.

PC: It curved in.

LRH: [to audience] Any of you with a cough out there, you might as well do this, too.

[to pc] Curved in?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is it wearing out on the stomach? Or is it getting sharper?

PC: It's wearing out some ...

LRH: Or are you letting it do anything?

PC: I'm directing attention to the areas you name.

LRH: Okay. What's happening to the stomach somatic?

PC: It seems less.

LRH: Seems less?

PC: Somewhat less.

LRH: Good. Good. All right, let's get it right here on these two neck cords at the back of the neck. How do they feel at the moment you get it in the stomach?

Commentator: Needle has settled down and varying only slightly, approximately at one quarter of a point.

LRH: They move in some direction?

PC: I don't seem to be able to pick those up. Wait a minute, wai - wai - wai ... There's a lot of confusing head pain, that is not localized.

LRH: Was the head shot first?

PC: Got a flash of "yes."

LRH: Is this Facsimile One?

PC: Yep, I should guess. Seems like it's the onlr thing it could be.

LRH: Mm-hm. Are you on a postulate that you mustn't feel it?

PC: Yeah, in connection with the stage, so forth and so on.

Commentator: Five-point drop.

PC: You see, all these somatics will turn on when you get on the stage. Stomach, whap; knees, bang. So they teach you tricks in the theater to ...

LRH: Is that by exhibiting yourself? Or appearing in public, or talking to the public?

PC: Talking to the public. Yeah.

LRH: Talking to the public is very bad, isn't it? Public assembly - mustn't do that.

Commentator: One point - point-and-a-quarter of drop.

PC: Well, you learn tricks in the theater to handle this, you see.

LRH: Yeah. You got these tricks working?

Commentator: Half a point drop.

PC: I tried to - not to have them working for the sake of this interview.

LRH: Uh-huh. Does this interrupt your processing to any degree?

PC: There's one working right now. You see that light right there?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Well, that's a spotlight. You can use the zones of concentration tricks on that. But ...

LRH: Sure. All right. Let's concentrate on the spotlight. What happened to the stomach somatic?

PC: It goes away.

LRH: Immediately! Good. Concentrate on the stomach. (pause)

Now I'll show you a little trick about facsimiles. Tell you, facsimiles have no finite size. Facsimiles are not as big as you are or as small as you are or twice as big as you are or anything of the sort. You can shift them at will. You can actually be any part of any facsimile. You can be a point of concentration in any part of any facsimile. Let's ...

PC: Yeah. Yeah.

LRH: ... let's take a time when you have a tooth - well, you can actually move over and - let's have a facsimile of a toothache or something. You could actually move over 100 percent into the middle of that tooth ...

PC: And get the full pain. Yeah, I'ue done that.

LRH: ... and be the ache.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Or you could even go this far: you could even move into one cell of the tooth ...

PC: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do that.

LRH: ... and get anything that was on that cell and be all of you in the one cell. Very simple, very simple. And as a matter of fact, a method here - it's very interesting. I'm going to show you something that you may find very fascinating. Can you pretend that your skull, your actual skull, is out on - about a yard or two - well, let's say exactly five feet out from you to the right, to the left, back of you and in front of you and above you, so that you're inhabiting the middle of your skull?

PC: Yeah, sure. I can do that.

LRH: All right. And you've got this skull out there at this distance and your head is now ten feet wide and you're in the middle of it.

Commentator: A half-point of fluctuation now and persistent twitching as he asks.

LRH: All right. What gland are you? (snaps)

PC: Pineal. (laughs)

LRH: Okay. Now, let's now receive the full impact of everything hitting the pineal at the same time in Facsimile One.

Commentator: Two-point drop.

PC: With this extended skull I have here?

LRH: Yes, with the extended skull.

PC: Wait a minute. Let me get - it takes a second to get that concept again.

LRH: Yeah, all right, let's get the concept.

PC: There we go. (pause) There's some blockage to - to doing this, to - to feeling that full impact on the pineal up there. I guess it's ...

LRH: All right, Now, let's be just the front couple of cells there - the front cell on the pineal - the one that receives the frontal impact in the middle of all this. Now, all of you be the front cell there, of the pineal that receives the frontal impact on the pineal ...

PC: Okay.

LRH: ... with your skull that much bigger.

PC: Okay. Front cell of the pineal, right?

LRH: Yeah, let's get that full impact on the front cell of the pineal.

PC: (pause) Well, when I try to do that, I get - seem to be getting somatics toward the back of the head rather than the front.

LRH: Yes, isn't that strange?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay.

Commentator: The needle then reached its highest point of session, has now dropped back down two points.

LRH: All right. Let's be the back cell of the pineal now, with your skull actually ...

Commentator: It's rising...

LRH: ... extended way out there. Let's be the back.

Commentator: One point. One and a quarter points.

LRH: (pause) Let's be that back cell again and get the impact from in back. (pause) What did you get?

PC: Um, guess there's some blockage to being able to do that right there.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: It's quite easy in the front, but not so ...

LRH: Where did the pain come in from?

PC: I hit - I got it in back that time. I thought I'd get it in the front, but it didn't, you know, my ...

LRH: Okay. Yeah. Good.

PC: ... it didn't work out.

LRH: Now let's be on the right side of the pineal. Let's be a cell on the right side of the pineal, getting that impact coming in, with your skull way out there, and so forth - that impact.

Commentator: Needle dropped one point and now rising.

LRH: (pause) Got it?

PC: Yeah. I'm - I ...

LRH: You got it? (pause) Uh-huh, you got it.

PC: Yeah, I got it.

LRH: All right.

Commentator: Needle's fluctuating one point.

LRH: There we go. That was the one that was hung up on it. Yeah. Let's get it again. (pause) Now let's shift over and be the left side of the pineal.

PC: Seems a heavy effort seems to be pushing the head this way.

LRH: That's right. Let's shift over and be a cell, now, on the left end of the pineal, getting the side blast from the skull.

PC: I had a great big operation at the age of three to pull my head back up again.

LRH: Yeah?

PC: Yeah. You can see the scars - look right there.

Commentator: Tone dropped two full points and has now come back up.

LRH: (pause) You having a hard time getting that side?

PC: Yeah, I'm getting it a little bit. Harder though.

LRH: Get it again.

Commentator: The tone has now risen; it's gone up a full point.

LRH: All right, let's shift back now. Let's be all the pineal in the middle of this great big skull and let's get the feeling "I want to have it," as the pineal.

Commentator: One-point drop

PC: You want the pain.

LRH: Yeah - no. "I just want this. I want this."

PC: Counter-effort?

LRH: No, yeah - "I want this." That's right.

PC: "I want this counter-effort ..."

LRH: You see, really, the plot is, let's say - you've been swindled, you see? But the point is, you started into this and you say, "I want all this." Now, just say to yourself, "I want this," and you be the pineal. And you say, "Boy, I really want this."

Commentator: Tone has now dropped three points.

LRH: (pause) Get that again. Now, get that postulate: "I really want this." As the gland...

PC: Well, the postulate is "I asked for this."

LRH: Oh, the postulate is "I asked for this" Is that immediately after the first one? (snap)

PC: Yeah, yeah.

LRH: All right, let's get the first one. "I want this."

PC: (pause) I want pain. I want to want it. I want to - well ...

LRH: You know what you want. (snap)

Commentator: Tone is now rising.

LRH: Now, get that postulate just before the first energy impact.

PC: Before. All right.

LRH: Just before the first energy impact. You be the pineal in the middle of this big skull, and just before this first energy impact, the moment before the first energy impact, and you've got a sort of a feeling there? You don't feel bad at all. You feel good - just before the first energy impact.

PC: Rather - rather powerfull.

LRH: Yeah. You feel pretty good, don't you, huh? All right, let's get that first energy impact from all sides simultaneously.

Commentator: Needle dropped a point as it was realised.

PC: ... reluctancy to do that.

LRH: All right. When I slap my hands together, get the energy impact from all sides simultaneously. (clap)

Commentator: The needle drifted up two points and then dropped five points. Now very slowly rising.

LRH: Okay. How are you feeling?

PC: Well, I-I don't know.

Commentator: Drop.

LRH: What's the postulate goes with it?

PC: "I don't know where I am."

LRH: Uh-huh. Okay ...

PC: "I'm lost, but I like it."

LRH: Uh-huh.

Commentator: Needle is wavering at the lower edge of the dial.

LRH: All right. Now expand yourself out to the point where the pineal is in the middle of the skull now.

PC: Out here.

LRH: Mm-hm. (pause) Now get the pineal back in the middle of the skull.

PC: Sort of have to go backwards to do that, you know.

LRH: Yeah, I know.

PC: Did we have to be aware before they could shoot?

LRH: Yeah.

Commentator: Needle's slowly rising, fluctuating, rising, averaging out to a very slow rise.

PC: There's a postulate "I wish I could get back."

LRH: Yeah, "I wish it hadn't happened" sort of thing.

PC: "I wish I could get back, I was so powerful."

LRH: "I asked for this."

PC: Well, that's unfair of you to say that. I mean, I'm trying to get back here, and you throw that one at me. (laugh)

LRH: Well, you've got the facsimile rearranged now so that you got a facsimile of you? Get the facsimile of you in the pineal in the middle of the head - just you.

Commentator: Tone continues to rise.

PC: Oh, I got a plan: I - instead of going back through it, I'11 just snap around in the front.

LRH: That's right. Okay.

PC: 1.1. (audience laughter)

LRH: All right.

& Just put down the cans and have a cigarette.

PC: Okay.

[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.]

[Sounds like a different PC]

LRH: You felt an impact? Now, where was the impact felt when I asked you to do that? Was it felt over your body or in your head?

PC: Oh, head - head only.

LRH: It was felt in your - against your head?

PC: Uh...

LRH: Did you ...

PC: ... now you see, now you start talking about it, I get it on top of the head.

LRH: Uh-huh. Did you get it inside as the pineal? Did you get an allover somatic or did you get a...

PC: No, inside as the pineal. Yeah, I would be the pineal inside this skull. Now that - now wait a minute. I was - just my head was doing it inside ... I may have ...

LRH: Yeah.

PC: ... not done it all ...

LRH: That's right.

PC: ... so I see what I didn't do.

LRH: You see?

PC: I only put my head in the center of the skull ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... I didn't put my whole body in it.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay, let's move all of you into the pineal now, again.

PC: Oh, that's different.

LRH: Just before it hit, all of you into the pineal. (pause) Move all of you into it.

Commentator: Sensitivity of the needle has been increased. Preclear rising on the scale.

LRH: All right. Now, let's get the first moment...

PC: Well, I'm not before the first moment yet, I don't think.

LRH: Well, let's get the first moment. You didn't like the idea of getting the first moment, I take it?

PC: Mm, that's right.

LRH: Uh-huh. Let's get the first impact of that pineal - now, first impact on the pineal - and you be the pineal.

PC: Wait a - well, I got to get the - take a little minute here and get to be the pineal again.

LRH: All right.

PC: You just don't do this sort of thing in everyday life in the twentieth century. It takes something to do it.

LRH: Well, you're doing it in everyday life now. (pause) You got it?

PC: Almost, the way it's going. (pause) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

LRH: Got it? All right. Get the first rap.

Commentator: Tone is starting to rise.

LRH: Now, is it simultaneous from all sides at once?

PC: Dah-dah-dat-da. I don't know.

Commentator: Tone is starting to rise - dropped.

LRH: Front/back, all top, all around at once, or is it selectively: one first and then the other one?

PC: Might be all at once, I don't know. Might be all at once.

LRH: All right, let's try and find out. I'll snap my fingers and it'll hit. (snap)

Commentator: Needle dropping two points.

LRH: All right. The first one will hit again. (snap)

Commentator: Slow rise of one point.

LRH: Be the pineal there in the center of the head.

PC: Yeah, I got out of it, see? It's - it's hitting the pineal.

Commentator: Continuing to rise.

LRH: (pause) All right. Let's hit it smack again, (snap)

PC: I don't actually want to be the pineal again, Ron.

LRH: Let's get in there.

PC: You see, there's a fear of getting in to be the pineal, you see, because, you get in there, boy, you're going to get hit.

Commentator: The needle is fluctuating about five points on the dial.

LRH: Now, let's get that - let's be the pineal - all of you. Now, first blow. (clap)

PC: Didn't get it.

LRH: No.

Commentator: No reaction.

LRH: First blow again, smack from all sides. (clap)

Commentator: Still no reaction; now a slight drop.

LRH: All right, let's get it now: the first one from all sides simultaneously, and get the drop in tone. Get the feeling of tone drop as that first one hits. (clap)

Commentator: Preclear jumped; the needle at full ...

LRH: All right, let's get it again: the tone drop as the first one hits (clap)

Commentator: Three-point drop, now rising.

LRH: The tone drop as the first one hits again. (clap) Let's be the pineal inside now - inside that skull. Now, let's get hit from all quarters simultaneously. And you tell me where the blows are this next time.

Commentator: Needle is fluctuating widely on the scale as this question's asked.

LRH: All right, the first one is now going to hit. (clap)

Commentator: Preclear jumps; needle drops four points.

PC: Can't particularly tell you where the blows are.

LRH: That's all right. The first one - the first impact now, and it's going to hit again. (clap)

PC: Near - around the back someplace.

LRH: Yep.

PC: Somewhere around the back - neck or someplace around that area.

LRH: All right.

Commentator: Needle going up four points.

LRH: Now, the first one is going to hit again. (clap)

Commentator: Now dropping five points.

LRH: First one's going to hit again. (clap)

Commentator: Preclear is doubling over.

LRH: First one is going to hit again. (clap) (pause)

Commentator: Needle has now swung clear to the left of the scale.

LRH: And again, (clap) (pause) Okay, what's the - get the tone drop now. Is it a tone drop or a tone rise when that first one hits?

PC: Might be a rise. Might be a rise.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: Might be a rise.

LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Let's get that tone change, the tone change as that first one hits, Just before the first one, now you're in the center of the skull, all of you is the pineal. (clap) Okay. You getting more?

Commentator: Preclear jumps and tone drops five points. It is now moving full right.

PC: I think on the emotion ... Seems to be ...

LRH: You got it.

PC: ... up to fear or something like that.

LRH: Yeah, that's right.

PC: God, what a low-toned character.

LRH: All right. But do we get a down-up?

PC: Yeah, yeah, a down-up.

LRH: All right. Let's get that now.

PC: All right.

LRH: Be in the center of the skull and let's get that down-up emotion on the first impact. Okay, when I smack my hands, it'll hit. (clap)

PC: No, I wasn't in the center of the skull.

LRH: Well, let's get in the center there. (pause)

Commentator: Needle has now moved to the full right-hand side of the dial as the preclear attempts to concentrate his attention in the center of the skull.

LRH: [to machine operator] Center the machine.

Commentator: The operator of the machine is now centering the needle.

LRH: [to pc] Okay. You in the center now?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. First one's going to hit again. (clap) Get the curve of the first one. (clap) Get it again. (clap) And again. (clap) And again. (clap) First one, just the first bap. (clap)

Commentator: Needle fluctuates about four points.

LRH: Get the curve that goes with it?

PC: Yeah. It seemed to me I was getting one in the stomach then, too.

LRH: All right. Let's get that first bap, simultaneous bap, and the curve that goes with it. (clap) And again. (clap) Let's be all in the center there now. (clap)

PC: Wait till I get all in the center, here. Wait a minute. Takes a little time to keep in this center.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Trying to keep in there. Seems you can get out of there, you know?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: (mumble)

LRH: Mm-hm. (pause) Now, is there an effort to get out of there, as the pineal?

PC: Yes, you're right. I'd like to get out of this.

LRH: All right. Let's get the effort to get out of there, now, as the pineal. Let's get the effort to get out - to disconnect. First bap. (clap) Get the effort to get out of there. Again, first bap. (clap) (pause) You got it?

[to machine operator] Center the machine.

PC: There's a lot of confusion. I don't quite know what I'm getting now.

LRH: Well, let's get the effort to get out of there on the first bap, now.

PC: Get out on the first bap now.

LRH: All right, let's get, now, the ARC break. First the affinity break with everything else in the skull.

Commentator: Three-Point drop.

LRH: As the pineal, experience this affinity break with everything in the skull with the first bap. (clap) (pause) Let's do it again. Affinity break.

Commentator: Has risen to three point ...

LRH: Do you find an affinity break there or an affinity change?

PC: Affinity change.

LRH: All right, get an affinity change with the rest of the body, your feeling of an affinity change with the rest of the body.

Commentator: Getting a three-point drop, now rising, fluctuating. It's full off on the left-hand edge of the dial.

LRH: [to machine operator] Center the machine.

Commentator: Tone now rising.

LRH: Get an affinity change again with the rest of the body. Is it up or down?

Commentator: Continuing to rise.

PC: It's difficult to discern.

LRH: All right. Get a communication shift with the rest of the body on the first bap.

Commentator: Three-point drop, rising.

LRH: Get the bap and get the shift.

PC: Mm.

Commentator: Needle continues to rise, now dropping

PC: There seems to be a postulate there to tighten up and to hold the bap in place.

LRH: All right. Let's get this effort to hold it.

Commentator: Slow drop.

PC: So as to dampen its action.

LRH: All right. Let's get the effort to hold it. (pause)

Commentator: The needle's rising.

LRH: Again, get the effort to hold that action. (pause) And again the effort to hold on to the action. As the pineal, now, get the effort to hold on to this bap. Get it coming in and hold on to it. (pause) You getting it?

PC: Yeah, yeah.

LRH: Good. What's it like?

Commentator: A three-point needle fluctuation.

PC: Well, a - a freeze.

LRH: Is it going through it yet? Have you got that effort freed up or is it wearing out as an effort?

PC: It's sort of wearing out, just a little bit.

LRH: All right. Let's just get it rapidly. Bap-hold-bap -hold-bap-hold-baphold-bap-hold, come on.

PC: I'll keep running over it, now I see ...

LRH: One right after the other, bap-bap-bap-bap-bap. Just the first one, repeating, repeating, repeating. The first one repeating and your effort to hold, hold, hold, hold. (pause)

Commentator: Needle just swung - was put off the dial to the left. The machine has been centered. Now the needle starts to rise - three, four, five points; continues to rise to six.

LRH: And you have to hold it good?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is it wearing out?

PC: Yeah, it's slowly wearing out.

Commentator: Slight drop, and continuing to rise.

PC: There's more

LRH: Hm? What?

PC: Right now the effort seems to be more coming in, you know, pushing it out.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I mean, the counter-effort is coming in on me more now

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I'm not - i don't seem to be holding it out there so much.

LRH: Mm-hm. What'd you get there?

PC: Longer counter-effort.

LRH: Okay. (pause) All right, bring it in.

Commentator: Very wide fluctuations of the needle, drop and then a rise.

LRH: Get your effort as the pineal to pull it right straight on through. Is it from all sides at once or just from the back?

PC: The back - the back of the neck, the back of the neck.

LRH: All right. Pull it in from the back of the neck.

PC: Pull it in. Pull it in.

LRH: Over and over and over. Pull it in to you.

PC: Counter-effort. Okay.

LRH: Pull the counter-effort in.

Commentator: Needle fluctuating tone rising.

PC: Postulate's "It's easier this way."

LRH: Mm-hm.

Commentator: Full-dial drop.

PC: It doesn't seem to be pressing quite so strong now.

LRH: All right. Get your effort to shove it out. Rapidly, one right after the other on the first bap and the effort to shove it out.

Commentator: Tone's starting to rise again, continuing to rise. Now, a slight drop again rising.

PC: By God, I can get that. You know I couldn't get that before?

LRH: That's right.

PC: Uh-huh. Those other efforts were obscuring it.

Commentator: Very wide fluctuation of the needle, almost a full-dial swing.

LRH: Wearing out?

PC: Yeah, little by little it's wearing out.

LRH: All right. Now, let's get the effort to pull it in.

PC: Pull it in?

LRH: Pull it in again.

PC: There's something.

LRH: Some more of that there?

PC: Yeah, there's more of that there.

LRH: Okay. Get it in several times to pull it in.

PC: I'm not trying to bop the machine but I know you're getting...

Commentator: Needle fell full off to the left. Operator of the machine is setting the needle.

LRH: All right. Pull it in again.

PC: Not - don't seem to be there quite so much. It's more "not to resist."

LRH: All right. Push it out. Get the resistance; resist, resist, resist. (horn honking)

PC: Hey, that damned horn sounded like it.

LRH: Mm-hm. Get the effort to resist.

PC: (pause) This makes the somatic very strong just now.

LRH: Oh, you're getting a good somatic on it now?

PC: Yeah, on the resistive effort, there is a somatic on it - on it.

LRH: All right. Is that effort getting stronger? Is your effort getting stronger?

PC: The resistor effort?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Yeah, yeah.

LRH: Over again. Over again. Resist it.

PC: Well, that makes a very strong somatic.

Commentator: Needle is fluctuating in a three-point range now.

LRH: Try it again. Throw all of your resistance into it now.

PC: It's on just, I think, one vertebra in the back of the neck. (pause)

LRH: Now how's the effort on it?

PC: It's the - the somatic is lessening.

LRH: Lessening, huh? All right. Try pulling it in again.

PC: Pull it in again?

LRH: Pull it in. (pause) Pull it in again. Rapidly, one right after the other, pull it in.

PC: One right after the other, right. Uuuuuhhh. (mumble) I try - I try to resist it. But the effort to accept it does seem to be a little - little out of the road now and there's this resistor effort that keeps coming in.

LRH: Mm-hm. Well, keep trying to pull it in until your effort reverses automatically.

PC: So that I am doing nothing but pushing it out?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Mm. (pause) Yeah.

LRH: Did it reverse?

PC: No. No, but I just got the concept of what you're referring to.

LRH: Oh.

PC: Slow thinking with these facsimiles.

Commentator: Needle has dropped two and a half points and is now rising slowly.

PC: With the - keeping pulling it in like that is wearing the counter-effort out.

LRH: Okay. Pull it in. (pause) Pull it in some more.

PC: About the top of the shoulder blade is ...

LRH: You still on the first one?

PC: Yeah, I'm still picking up the first ...

LRH: Good. You're just doing fine. (pause)

Commentator: Needle continues fluctuating one point.

LRH: Now how's the somatic?

PC: Right there it got a little stronger, and now it's tapering off a little bit

LRH: Mm. All right, resist it.

PC: Resist now. Okay.

LRH: One right after the other, (pause) Hey, you got a good one.

PC: Yeah, you bet.

LRH: Now, let's get a heavy resistance on it.

Commentator: Needle drops two and a half points.

LRH: Is it a lot less than it was?

PC: Yeah, it's less than it was.

LRH: Good. (pause) Still getting good solid resistance on it?

PC: Yeah. Hey, you know there's a tendency to dope off, you know, I've been doping off in front of a - this machine all the time.

Commentator: The needle's dropped about five full points.

PC: But I said that because when I first came up, my awareness of the audience was high, now it's low.

Commentator: The needle has returned to the center of the dial, now continuing to rise.

PC: Oh!

LRH: What happened?

PC: I resisted a little too much.

LRH: You got a real hard one?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Would you say this thing's a quarter worn out? Half worn out? What ?

PC: Oh, I'd say about three-quarters worn out on this one first bap.

LRH: That's all we're interested in at the moment - that one first bap.

PC: Yeah. Now that first bap, that's about three-quarters gone now.

LRH: Okay. Let's pull it in very rapidly, one right after the other. Pull it in.

PC: On the first bap.

LRH: Make it good and solid. Pull it in hard.

PC: I'm getting flattened on it now, Ron.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Now it's just a tendency to dope off (pause) There - there's less counter-effort and more tendency to dope.

LRH: All right. Resist it. Push it out now.

PC: All right, I'm pushing it out.

LRH: Get the sound that goes with it now - sound as it would sound inside the skull.

PC: Must be some sonic shut-off there, or something I can't get through.

LRH: (pause) Got the resistance of it?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Just resist it a little harder. Is it practically gone?

PC: Yeah, it's - it's going, it's going, it's going.

LRH: Attaboy.

Commentator: The needle continues to fluctuate, approximately one point, and gradually moves up across the dial.

LRH: Now this time as you run it, get the feeling of affinity break that goes with it.

PC: With what? Affinity break with ...

LRH: Well, any affinity change that goes with that bap from the back of the head.

PC: Affinity break with the environment or myself?

LRH: No, affinity break between the pineal and the skull.

PC: Between pineal and the skull. (laugh) My vertebrae always flicker flicker.

Commentator: The needle has now swung full left.

LRH: Mm, okay, All right, get the communication change between the pineal and the skull. (pause)

Commentator: Needle rising slowly.

LRH: Got it?

PC: Sort of.

LRH: Yeah, now you got it. Get it better.

PC: Yeah, I - I got it.

LRH: Good.

PC: I thought of a line from The Prophet, by Kahlil Gibran.

[R&D note: The Prophet: a book of twenty-six poetic essays by Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931), LebaneseAmerican philosophical essayist, novelist, mystic poet and artist. Published in 1923, The Pro~het became a best-selling book of popular mysticism, and it has been translated into more than a dozen languages. In one o~ the essays, entitled "On Pain," Gibran wrote: "Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding."]

LRH: Yeah.

PC: "Pain is the breaking of the shell of our understanding."

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Ha-ha! That fits.

Commentator: A quarter up.

PC: In other words, I - I don't like my skull anymore. It just couldn't stand up now. We were running my throat ...

LRH: Mm-hm,

Commentator: Slowly rising.

PC: That's - those are gone now.

LRH: Yeah? Good. Get your feeling of reality break - as the pineal - get your feeling of reality break the second that thing hits you.

PC: Seems to be a postulate: "I don't belong in here."

LRH: Yep. How's the somatic?

PC: Oh, it's - it sort of changed into a - a different kind of a somatic. Now it's better, but I mean, you see, it's - it's not the same as it was. You see, it is different. Oh, oh, hey! Oh, my vertebrae! Straightening up, the back of the neck!

LRH: Yeah?

PC: It's amazing? (laugh)

LRH: Yeah?

PC: (laughs) It's a big relief to me, because all my life I've held it like that. (laughs) Real good.

LRH: Have you been the pineal?

PC: Yeah. You mean this life or - I didn't quite get the gist of the question.

LRH: This life, have you been the pineal to a large extent?

PC: Yes, I have.

LRH: Mm-hm. Yep.

Commentator: The needle has dropped down. It's now rising.

LRH: Okay.

PC: You already knew this, then?

LRH: Sure. Are there many more baps left on that, the somatic, and so forth?

PC: Many more baps?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: There may be. I - maybe that's an avoid - maybe. (laughing)

LRH: Well, is it an avoidance?

Commentator: Slight drop here.

PC: No, I don't think there are very many more.

LRH: Well, can't you pick up the remainder of these yourself ...

PC: All right.

LRH: ... just for the purpose of demonstration?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Uh-huh, uh-huh.

LRH: All right. How about scanning out the session?

PC: Scan out the session?

LRH: Yeah, scan out this whole session here...

PC: Okay.

LRH: ... ever since you came up and I started talking to you.

PC: Okay.

Commentator: Needle dropped two points, is now rising. Slight fluctuation, continuing to rise, (pause) hovering about mid-dial. Now a drop of one point, fluctuating back to center, and a drop of one point, fully recovered to the middle of the dial.

LRH: Just give it a lick and a promise.

Commentator: Slowly rising.

PC: Okay.

LRH: You're not hitting those hand pops, are you?

PC: No, I...

LRH: Did you hit them?

PC: What? What?

LRH: When I slapped my hands?

PC: No, I'm not hitting those.

LRH: Uh-huh. How about you straightwiring that?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Thanks.

PC: Okay.

LRH: [to machine operator] Was there any rise in tone apparent on this machine, or any rise or drop?

Machine Operator: All the way through, all the way through.

LRH: Continuous rise on the scale.

Machine Operator: Mm-hm.

LRH: This is an example, then, of Effort Processing as used in the reduction of heavy Facsimile One.