Thank you.

Thank you.

And now we come to the crux of the situation — you. why is your case sacred?

Okay. Second lecture, 5 April, Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, AD 12. Now, we've been talking about what won't as-is. The things that won't as-is. First and foremost, of course, the things that won't as-is are the things you don't know anything about. Can't as-is it if you don't know anything about it.

This is a lecture of April the 5th, AD 12, Special Briefing Course, Saint Hill. A very late spring. But if you will notice we have some gorse or whatever it is, from Scotland, blooming And we have a whole slew of daffodils. Brave flower. Spring won't take forever. And neither will our new quarters.

And the next thing is something that you can't communicate with and that can't communicate with you. So that's a poor show as an as-is. That's just overtly can't, you see. A person knows something about the natives of upper Lombovia. It's very hard to as-is the natives of upper Lombovia if one simply has the idea that they might exist. You've never talked to them. They've never talked to you. But this is not in order of damagingness to the individual.

I was out slopping around amongst the plumbing out there today and find out the contractors have come out of hibernation. Awfully nice of them.

There is a reverse situation that you would never suspect, which is nothing there to do any as-ising. See, you'd never suspect that one. There simply is an operating GE. You get the idea? And of course, it won't as-is. Nothing will as-is with regard to this thing because there's nothing there to as-is it. That, of course, is the — basically the most, obvious but the least discerned of the as-ises.

Well, let's get down to the meat of the situation tonight, and let's find out why your case is sacred.

See, if you're not there to look, why, there it'd be. But it'd be something with nothing in it to as-is it. And of course — and that won't as-is, of course. Won't alter-is either. It won't do anything.

Well, why is it? Just contemplate that for the moment. Why is your case sacred? If it is. If it is.

Therefore, any mechanism which makes nothing out of the thetan becomes non-as-isable. Do you see that? See, if something makes absolutely nothing — you see, a thetan really isn't nothing If a somethingness must always have matter, energy, space and time connected with it, of course, then a thetan could be nothing, but a nothingness wouldn't have ideas and a personality and capabilities and creativeness and position ability and view ability and register ability and memory ability. You can't call this a nothing, you see.

Sacredity raises its ugly head. Sacred equals don't attack equals preserve equals protect equals survive. And now at last we understand the theetie-weetie case. If you notice, everything to a theetie-weetie case is sacred.

Although it may be nothing with regard to matter, energy, space and time, it is not nothing with regard to its abilities. See, it can do things. Well, a nothingness can't do things, but then a thetan isn't a nothingness. So if you had something which made absolutely nothing out of a thetan's abilities and a thetan's existence and a thetan's lookingness and a thetan's creatingness and a thetan's doingness and a thetan's causativeness in all directions — you would, of course, have a not — a non-as-ising situation.

All right. Now, let's just add up that case — not to throw dirty names here or anything — but let's just add up that case.

Only the not-is that exists there is in reverse. One is not not-ising the item. The item is not-ising the person. You see that is a reverse mechanism? And of course, that is your most dangerous valence.

Those equations which you just took down in your notes — you also ought to hear that, you know. you also ought to hear that, hear what I just said, too.

A lot of religions tend to set up this valence. The campaign of most religion is to get rid of all the evil spirits. And they really go to town on getting rid of all the evil spirits. All early religions — I don't care how they become modern religions later on — or some — after they've gotten rid of all the evil spirits they usually become modern and benign. That's because they've done their job. But early they're quite militant. Any religion, whether Christian or Mohammedan, anything else is quite militant on the subject of the evilness of the spirit — the evil spirits that must be around.

If you'll look that over, just let's add up this case where everything is sacred. Mustn't attack it, mustn't be attacked, must protect, must preserve, must survive, and there's a final equals — equals no results in processing

So that you get the religion of the German woods is totally based upon how horrible all these things are that live in pools and trees and caves, don't you see? How they're liable to spring out at you at any minute. Earlier religions, less violent, less aberrative types of religions, admit the existence of beings which are not necessarily malignant. There you get the Irish. The Irish have a whole category of little people that do various things, not necessarily bad.

And frankly that is the only reason that anyone ever has, for a no result in processing. That is the secret of this universe. The secret of this universe is that it is a sacred universe and shouldn't be attacked. And this puts every poor thetan that comes into it on a shouldn't-attack which puts attack on, of course, automatic. So it's the universe of automatic attack.

And it's very funny that that ancient religion would ride right alongside of the most violent, modern religion which we have — that these two things would go hand in glove. But they seem to have succeeded in doing so. And of course, we probably will see the day when we know nothing about — who was it that "driv' the snakes out of Eire-land"? we won't 'ear about him anymore. We won't hear about him at all, but we will still have leprechauns — the wee people.

Now, there are two states of mind — three, really. There's the state of mind of pan-determinism, of where one can see or fight or control or anything else on his own choice on either side of the situation. Pan-determinism — either side of the question, either side of the situation.

And when a religion has been totally successful, utterly and totally successful, it manifests itself in a society where the spirit is totally unknown and there are no spirits. Now, beware of that society because it is the furthest south. There are no spirits. They just don't exist. Man is MEST. The brain is the limit of psychology. There are no spirits. Now you've achieved a total overwhelm.

I know it used to disgust my fellow writers. I took politics — politics to me are something on the order of jokes that you read in joke books, you know. Like Pat and Mike joke books or something like that. Or minstrel joke books.

Not only are there not even no — malignant spirits, but there just are no spirits. And you have a soul like your car has a spare tire. It has nothing to do with you. You're taking care of this soul. you see, it's an other-determinedness by this time. You're taking care of this soul. And if you were a good boy or you were a good girl, why, you can send this soul off at your demise to some pie-in-the-sky sanatorium or something for souls, see.

And I could never really take this sort of thing seriously. After you've gotten too familiar with something and been mixed up in it often enough, you see — after that you get very familiar with it, you see?

Well, let's take a limit — a limiting view of this sort of thing Now, how has this manifested itself in our present world. Well, let's take what they're called — the exact sciences. And let's see what these exact sciences are all about.

And you'd have a bunch of fellows holding out violently, you see, for one side of the political picture, you see? And another bunch of fellows holding out violently for the other side of the political picture. And I would sit there and be violently, you see, on the side of the first blokes and then about halfway through the evening or a half a pint of rum later, something like that, why, I would become violently in favor of the former opposition, you see. It really upset everybody, you see?

Matter, energy, space and time. Well, the first fundamental of elementary physics as taught in every school in this western culture is the conservation of energy. This is the first and foremost thing that is instructed. Energy cannot be created. Energy cannot be destroyed.

Well, the symptom of this was — it didn't make this much difference. I'd just as soon have fought on either side of it as long as it was a good fight. But you see, these poor fellows were fettered. And they were hostile to this point of view because they were fettered. Because group A — the first group, violently "in favor of," you see — their principles were sacred, you see? And group B — violently opposed to them — their principles were sacred, you see? And so it was a matter of die or else, you see. I mean, this wasn't any thought of any change here or shift. And for somebody to come along as cavalierly as this and argue on both sides of the political situation, you see, with this much wild abandon, was a shock to one and all because neither side was sacred to me.

Along with this we have conservation of mass. you burn a candle and if you were to seize all the carbon and all the other gases and elements and compress them in fragments down again and to rescue all these things and put them together in the platter, they would weigh as much as the candle of. See, once the candle is burned the residue which is left will weigh as much as the candle. I consider it very interesting nobody has ever done it. Interesting theory.

You see, politics is, at best, shifts and mechanisms of control, you see? And it's somehow the shadier side of control, if you want to really get down to brass tacks. But this — this is generally the attitude of this universe on the subject of pan-determinism, so pan-determinism gets into bad repute.

Well, we could see that this is perfectly reasonable. But notice how reasonable we all are on the subject of physics. Very reasonable.

I think I've joked about the denouement of this particular bunch of fellows. I remember one time there was a socialist and there was a communist and there was a democrat and there was a fascist, and boy, they were having a ball, you know, and each one was taking his sides, and so forth. And finally I got them to argue on one thing. Got to argue in the direction of just one item and they finally came up and approached this item and they all agreed that there was only one government that was a workable government and to which each one of them could wholeheartedly subscribe, and that was a benevolent monarchy.

We cannot destroy or create energy. And all mass suddenly turns out to be energy. Well, the weird part of all of this and the contradictoriness of all of this, if there's matter, energy, space and time and there's never going to be any more energy or any less energy and all — it's always going to be this much energy and nobody can do anything to this energy except maybe alter its condition — if that's the case, where do they come off having an expanding universe. See, they have conservation of energy, but they haven't gotten to a point yet where they have conservation of space.

So after we'd approached this by very gradient scales and very small steps, and they found themselves, who had been at each other's throats on this particular subject, you see — they found out they were all royalists. That's what I told them. See, I just dropped a bomb in the midst. "Well," I said, "I'm in the middle of a bunch of royalists and I myself am not a royalist, so that's that." Disgusted with all of them. This is a terrible thing to do to people. But they'd actually all agreed on this subject.

See, they still talk today about the expanding universe. In other words, there's more and more and more and more and more space. Interesting way of overwhelming somebody, isn't it. There's going to be more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more space, you see. And there's never going to be less space, so it's expanding, expanding, expanding and expanding, see.

There's only one thing wrong with a benevolent monarchy. You cannot choose its succession. So apparently every other form of politics is based on the inability to choose a succession. So we then have to — we have to . . . See, all these forms of politics are based on the inability to choose a successor. Hasn't anything to do with the kind of action you take during the political action, you see. you see that? I mean the present time of polities is of no concern, then. you have to have these other shifts and dodges because of the successor, see. you don't have to... Apparently any one of these forms of politics — fascism, communism, socialism, anything it doesn't matter what — are only necessary because you cannot guarantee that a good successor will follow a benevolent monarch. So they're all out of present time, aren't they? They're all somewhere up into the future or something So this becomes very amusing. You can go on this way but people don't approve of this. People frown on this. It's pan-determinism of one kind or another. You base it on this particular basis. A benevolent monarchy, of course, they could count on its being pan-determined. It would take up the right or the wrong or the basis of — you know, a good monarch, you know. He'd take up the justice of the situation, the points of the situation. But they could never guarantee that if he died they would get another one. So they have to become socialists or communists or fascists or something else, you see?

But you're not going to be able to do anything to energy. And space is just overwhelming you. Well, you wonder why a physicist goes nuts. The commodity which he is handling he is instructed that he can never do anything to. See, he can never destroy it and he can never create it.

You see, all the — the only thing that afflicted the entirety of the Roman Empire was stability of government. The types of governments which they had could not guarantee that you wouldn't have choice of successor by civil war. So therefore they were in a terrible mess. So all of the ensuing fifteen hundred — or, I guess, about thirteen hundred years of monarchies by succession by birth, you know, princes and divine rights of kings, all came out of the failure of the republic called Rome, you see? So they found out they couldn't have a republic because they couldn't guarantee a successor, so then we had divine rights of kings and had it genetically.

So if he can never destroy it and never create it, of course, it's sacred. And, man, if you ever want to get into a religious argument, start talking to a flock of physicists. It's a religious argument. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the reasonableness of this or that.

Now, you and I know that if any thetan can pick up any body, that would be the total apathy of successiveness, wouldn't it. Yeah. The genetic entity is going to succeed to the rule every time. And this is practically what happened. He will have an awful lot of trouble. Every time you get into pandeterminism all kinds of conflicts arise as to how are you going to continue pan-determinism, you see? And people don't. They slop off into self - determinism.

They don't realize that religion itself has brought them to the pass of this, because these things consist of a series of postulates which are agreed upon and made. And having agreed upon these postulates, having made these postulates, we wind up, of course, with an agreed-upon situation and condition. But I think any one of you on the backtrack are liable to find out where you violate the principles of energy or the principles of mass.

They go for "for and agin." They get into this self-determined attitude, and that's your second state of mind. It's a state of mind of "pro me." And then you'll have vast philosophies growing up of the virtue of selfishness. "Well, whatever you choose, why, you'd better think of number one first," see. And you get a vast activity going on the subject of how self is all-important — by which they mean self-determined action is all-important. And this carries with it another thing: that other-determined action is bad. See, that's the other side of the situation.

I imagine you've been sprinting up and down the backtrack at some time or another and you may have run into, all of a sudden, well, I don't know, making things disappear suddenly and startling everybody or suddenly making things appear and startling everybody or making all the trees grow twice as big suddenly or half as big, or just as-ising things at a glimpse or overwhelming in general someplace on the track. See, doing something to energy.

Now we have enemies. And now in any given group, why, about the most that you could be would be 50, 60, 70 percent of it, you see, because you could never be the whole group. You've dwindled in size or force, you might say.

I think somewhere, even if it's just stopping somebody, you've got a facsimile of doing something to energy. But of course, if you can't do anything to energy, time becomes inexorable because time is manifested by the change of space of particles — well, of course, is itself a postulate and is not monitored by the change of space of particles.

And now there's a third state. When people get into this state they're nuts, to be technical. I was roused up the other day about somebody in New Jersey was cursing me for using a very bad technical approach, you see, and using technical words, and so forth.

But one becomes aware of the passage of time because of the change of space amongst particles, even if it's just the tickety-tock of a balance wheel of a clock. It's still change of space of particles.

Isn't it funny? The last person that did that violently was also from New Jersey. You know, I think it must be in their drinking water. So I'm being careful tonight to being very, very technical. Anyway, a fellow who is in a other-determined frame of mind can be counted on as to be very technical; to agree with this New Jersey thing — nuts.

Now, the physicist, then, is actually a priest gone mad. That's all he is. And having imbibed all of his stable data and having sworn on the blessed Black's textbook on physics or something like that, to forevermore uphold these principles and to never turn away from any of them and to support them to the death, he then starts studying nuclear physics. And this is very difficult because he finds there's such things as holes in space and sometimes certain particles will shoot through in certain ways and become two particles and they were only one particle. And energy misbehaves. And the finite laws of elementary physics start to get foggy.

This person is only always for the other guy and never for himself. You start an argument in this person's vicinity and they get reasonable with you. They'll always be reasonable.

Now he's trying to hold on to a set of principles which tell him conservation of energy, while experimenting with a set of principles, of course, which tell him that there — something is astray about the conservation of energy and he usually winds up by saying, "Well, it — none of it violates the conservation of energy at all," with the attitude of a boy whistling as he goes by a graveyard.

You say, "Well, those damned psychiatrists shouldn't ought to use 220 volts as their only procedure."

And he goes mad about that time, so it's no wonder that the primary threat to this particular planet at this particular time is the explosion of bombs of nuclear fission. Because the first thing such a fellow would do would be to destroy himself.

"Well, I think they are perfectly good-intentioned men," and so forth.

We hear of the dedication of science and the dedication of science, of course, is all for science and nothing for me. All scientists should give all of their patents and developments to the club or to the university or to the manufacturing firm or to somebody or other. People should not, themselves, take out patents on their developments.

Now, you make the mistake of believing you are talking to somebody who is pro-psychiatric. And you're not. You're talking to somebody who is simply other-determined. And someday you should try this little excursion: As you talk to them and find out that every time you attack something they defend it in some way on the fact that it must be all right and it must be good and it must be — you know, there must be some reason for it, you see, just attack something else at random. Attack the sellers of apples at Times Square or something of the sort. And then you'll find they will immediately tell you, "Well, those fellows have to give money to the police, and they, you know, and to keep their license. And that is why they charge what they do for apples at Times Square," and so on. And then just choose your next tactic. Attack the Society for the Dissemination of Cats.

Nobody should have a right to his own developments. One of the most violent experiences that any physicist wants to have, will greet him or any chemist or something like that, if he's working for a university and happens to pour test tube A into test tube B and get molten student or something. If he were at this particular moment to take out a patent on this process in his own name he would probably be thrown out of the American Society of Chemists, the American Society of Physicists, the university and probably out of the house, too, as having been a traitor to the cause. He had done something to himself. It's quite peculiar.

And say, "Well, they shouldn't disseminate all those cats," and so forth.

If you think of the number of times you have tried to tell an educated person in the field of the mind or a psychologist or somebody, about Scientology, it would strike you as absolutely amazing that anybody could make the — this remark: "Well, I don't blame you for keeping it all a monopoly to yourselves." And yet that is the adjudication that the American psychologist makes about the Scientologist — that we are keeping it all secret to ourselves.

And they'll say, "Well, they probably have a good reason for disseminating these cats."

If you think of the number of times you have tried to disseminate and compare that with an attitude that we are keeping it all secret, it will look absolutely asinine to you. But of course, these birds are just asking for an executioner, that's all. You'll never have any trouble when you finally top the rise on this sort of thing.

And you'll begin to wake up after a while that this person is really not for anything for himself. He's only for those things which are agin. And if you say agin to him, he has to be for. Now, this one escapes your view. This one is a hard one to see because it's already entered into the lower-scale mockery of pan-determinism. You see, you're already just now entering into the lower-scale mockery. That's just the way it looks, however. This person is not pan-determined. This person is never self-determined. Now that's — that's what you fail to see as you speak with this person. This person is never self-determined. This person is always other-determined .

The only trouble you will have will be trying to save the psychologist from his suicide. He will not combat you actively. He will only combat you in a direction which executes himself. That's the only way he'll combat you. And he'll probably make hysterical public statements — they do, you know — that make them sound discreditable or silly. Or they steal the wrong part of the technique. It's all theirs, but they steal the wrong part of the technique, you see or something like this, to publish some asinine nonsense based on this sort of thing

These people, peculiarly, get into politics. It's a lower-scale mockery. Peculiarly. And it would just drive you stark staring mad if you were running a country and you had these people on your military and economic staffs, and so forth, because every time you said something was against the country, they'd have something reasonable to say about it. And they would give this vast example of being impartial people. But they are not impartial people. They're only for what is agin. you see that?

What's very peculiar and the only thing I'm bringing up here is, is here we're practically trying to force it down the guy's throat, you see and they're only mad because we keep it secret! That's from their view that's what we must be doing.

All right. Now, of course, we go down into the lower, lower harmonics, and we get, of course, these things repeated over and over again. But it's pan-determinism, self-determinism and other-determinism. Those are the three grades as you go down. And it usually escapes your view. Only thing new to you about this would be — probably would be the fact that other-determinism — a person who is totally other-determined — escapes your view because he looks reasonable and he looks pan-determined and he looks like he has good sense. It always sounds like he has good sense, you know.

I've had one of them tell me that — accuse me of not publishing papers in the American — I don't know what they call them — the American Society of Psychologists' Journal. Why didn't I publish papers in the thing It a — "Just — just one of these cases!" I had heard one fellow say one time, "Just one of these cases! Just — just look, you know. The guy. . ." The average gain in an HGC, you know. "Just one of these profiles published would revolutionize the whole of psychology!"

You say, "Well, these fortunetellers shouldn't manipulate the stock market the way they do."

They'd never publish one of those things. You could walk in with Sten guns and they'd never publish one, see. The guy's very upset because you're not publishing, you see, in this magazine. And this magazine, of course, would never publish anything you gave them because you're keeping it all secret. Isn't this a fantastic spin? Well, I used to go round and round with arguments of this character.

"Well, they probably have a — you see, they probably have some sincerity and some faith in what they're saying, and they have to live too, you know. And . . ."

At first, if you tried to talk to them and some of you will, sooner or later, you'll talk to such a chap and he'll be impudent or insolent with you at first and then just go into apathy. Thud. There isn't any gradient scale. He just doesn't go down like this, you see. He goes along insolent, apathetic.

You see, the question you never follow up. you just keep — you keep talking about fortunetellers to this person or something of the sort. So you never discover this other point. The person is not for himself.

Now, what he's trying to do is carry on something he thinks comes out of physics. See, he's trying to keep the sacredness of energy. He's trying to keep the sacredness of the brain. We've long talked about care of the body, care of the body, as one of the ills of our modern society, you know. "The worship of the body." Let's put it that way.

Now, in processing, that is the first level of case that is really going to give you trouble. You can be sure that case is going to give you trouble, because if you prove to him utterly he ought to run out certain engrams to benefit himself, he won't. You got it? He's not for himself, ever. you run into all sorts of things.

Care of the body, care of the body, care of the body. you got to do this with the body, you got to do that with the body. you got to get up, you got to exercise and you got to — got to do this and you got to do that. Well, maybe you got to but . . . When a fellow starts telling you that the brain does all the thinking, of course, this is just an effort to get what's inside the brain — a thetan — totally overwhelmed by his immediate environment. See? Which will get a total survival of gray matter and the total nonsurvival of a — of a thetan.

All cases, you understand, at various parts of the track, get stuck in these various phases. I mean, any of you at some part of the track have been looped up at one or another of these points. Even me, you see. Even thee. See, at some time or another.

See, when you try to teach a psychologist about Scientology you're going straight up against his basic stable datum, is that the thing which is there to as-is isn't there.

You know, you really got caved in. you went through two wars and an economic collapse and came out at the other end and found out you were sweeping out latrines as your highest dedication of life. And that the medicos have kept the body going and the only original part of the body which you have left is the left shoulder. And the rest of it's all artificial and yet you can't escape from it and you can't get away from it, and so on. you get lowtoned. You get low-toned about this time.

Now, therefore, those valences which you'll have the most trouble trying to run out or will give you the most trouble on a case are those valences which totally deny the existence of a thetan because there's nothing there, you see, to as-is.

And you're liable at that time to have found yourself very reasonable about the enemy. And what went along with this is you were agin you. you see, that's very easy because you looked around in the present time environment and found everybody was against you. And if everybody was against you, why, then you must be against you, too. Otherwise, you'd be out of agreement with the whole universe, wouldn't you.

That's different from — you look at a steel plate and look at it very heavily and you know you're looking at it and you'll — one of your first conclusions would be that looking at the steel plate would be — well, that would be a hard job of as-ising, trying to get a steel plate to disappear just by inspecting it. Now, you will — you would admit that this would look pretty hard. No, this is nothing. This is nothing compared to being a steel plate. See, at least the first situation, you're there looking at a steel plate trying to get it to disappear. But the second, there is nothing to look at it.

So a person trying to stay in agreement with the whole universe will sooner or later at some phase of his track become momentarily or otherwise other-determined. You see? It's a defeated proposition whereby he goes into agreement with the fact that he ought to be defeated.

So that is the extreme case of not as-is. No as-isingness can take place in the absence of something to as-is it. See, you're not going to get any lumber sawed if somebody has hidden all the saws in the land. There isn't a saw in the land. How're you going to saw the lumber? You're not going to.

Periods of illness best demonstrate this — people who are ill or chronically ill. You'll see most people who are under heavy attack or who have been heavily attacked or carrying a very large level of responsibility will occasionally flick in and out of this state. And of course, that makes almost any political leader on this planet or in this universe — almost any political leader is liable to get into this state. And the next thing you know, he will only sign a reasonable treaty which is favorable to the enemy and never favorable to his own country. And he will not sign a treaty which is favorable to his own country and will only sign a treaty that is favorable to the enemy.

Now, being a steel plate and being only a steel plate, not being a spirit that is in a steel plate, but being a steel plate — "Me the steel plate" — is the least as-ising situation. See, as an auditor, you must know what the least as-ising situation is.

And you wonder how come, after these wars, you get such fouled-up, mucked-up treaties of peace. Well, you got weary leaders who have gone totally other-determined. See, they look at all the overts they've racked up during a war, you see. And they finally get to the point where the enemy should be saved and they should be defeated.

Now, if — therefore it gives you some wisdom in your trying to disentangle items. You look over a whole bunch of items. Let us say, we go over this list of items and we inspect them. Your E-Meter reading will give you the one most likely to as-is. It doesn't give you the most overwhelmed. See, it'll give you the one that will run. But remember there are some others after this has run and the individual has increased his beingness, his own beingness, you see, to the point of not being what you have just run out. Now, he will be in a situation where he can be assessed again and will become aware of the fact that he is not quite the steel plate. We — before, when you went across that, you got no reaction at all because you just got the reading of a steel plate.

Now, you can be in this frame of mind on certain subjects without being generally or broadly. So a person on any given subject — that is not as a general mental attitude but as a specific mental attitude on any subject — is pandetermined, self-determined or other-determined.

He's being totally a steel plate, you see. Next time you run across and you read steel plate to him, you see, you've increased his ability to view, to be himself without being something else — and he'll register now on being a steel plate because he's not quite a steel plate.

And only in those areas where the person is furiously other-determined will you find a consistent and continuing somatic. That's the point of otherdeterminism — where the individual is assisting the attack on self. Of course, he's the only one there that can make the somatic, don't you see.

A tree out here — if you put an E-Meter on a tree, you won't get much of a read because trees are really being trees. Boy, are they — are they . . . Whatever spirit combination puts together trees is sure being trees.

So now, what I'm talking about wasn't as scarce as you thought. Now, when we get to the point where the whole individual and the whole situation and the whole attitude is pan-determined, self-determined or other-determined, of course, we have states of sanity. These are the states of sanity.

But oddly enough tomatoes aren't really being tomatoes very hard. That's very peculiar, you know, because you can get a tomato to register. You can get corn to register — maize. A lot of vegetables, a lot of flowers will register and a lot won't.

Everybody, you see, on any given subject — well, there's people here that are pan-determined on the subject of women and there are people here who are self-determined on the subject of women and there are people here who are other-determined on the subject of women, see? Take any subject and you'll find a variety of generalized attitudes.

It's the amount of endure connected with a vegetable which gives you the lessened needle registry on the E-Meter. In other words, the more endure the less registry. That's an inverse proportion.

Now, when you find a terminal by 3D Criss Cross, that terminal will be, if pan-determined, undiscoverable because it will never have hung up. Self-determined — somewhat troublesome. And it'll be part of the Goals Problem Mass. Other-determined — it'll damn near whip you in trying to audit it if you really don't have the locks spotted and the right keys to open those doors. Because every time you hit it the pc attacks himself. See? You could never help the pc in the vicinity of this other-determined valence.

The greater the effort to survive, the greater the endurance, the more mesty a thing is. And the less registry you will get of livingness.

You see what happens? Instantly, the pc is the loser. You find this, the pc's the loser. It's the winner.

So frankly, in the early stages of sorting out a 3D Criss Cross Goals Problem Mass, you will come across no reaction at all on those that should be run. put somebody on the meter. You say, "Do you have a Goals Problem Mass? Do you — have you ever been anything else or anybody else?" The possibility is you get no registry at all.

So you find people — I mean, don't shudder at this because it applies to me, thee, everybody, and so forth — but you find people are most likely to get hung up and seize onto and keep and perpetuate valences which are totally against their best interests. They're other-determined valences. You see that?

He's in two conditions. He's in the condition of not-know about any of them and they're there but he isn't there. In other words, you get a total overwhelm involved here that includes a not-know and of course you should be able to see at this time that a total overwhelm is a not-know.

They may look like terminals, and it may be all fine, but you'll find it's very difficult to move the person out of the track. Why is it difficult to move the person out of the track?

Of course you get no registry at all. But now, you start differentiating items and you start nulling them and you start getting items. All of a sudden bing, a fellow is this one and bing, a fellow is that one and you've got another one and got another one. You're getting your various lines. "Oh-oh, there's a feeling along here someplace that these things have a peculiar beingness of some kind or another."

Because every time you hit them, they survive, the pc doesn't. So you see, you have at that instant of that section of the track, you see, that you hit this in an auditing session... We're not talking about what went on that gave us this mechanic, we're talking about in the session. You hit this thing — "Bulldozer," see. All right. Bulldozer — terminal. You hit bulldozer. Bulldozer must survive, and it's all for bulldozer, and it must not be for pc, even though the bulldozer is the pc's terminal. We can call it that. But nevertheless, it's one of these other-determined valences, see.

You at least have the fellow in present time exterior to the view of being able to say, "Yes. Somewhere on the track there's a whizzer."

So, my golly, the pc will just sit there and do everything he can possibly do to preserve that terminal. Bulldozer. You see, he'll build it up, and he'll fix it up, and he'll try to achieve its goals, and he'll follow its postulates. And wow, you know, there it goes. And you try to run this out, and at this instant of track when you find the pc, the pc is zero.

Ah, well, that's much different. You see, up to that time, he couldn't say a whizzer was even on the track because, you see, he was a whizzer without being there at all. So all you got a reading of was a whizzer. Not a whizzer plus a thetan or a whizzer being inspected by a thetan. That — you didn't have that. you just had a whizzer.

See, the pc has no force in this whatsoever. But bulldozer will attack the pc. So if bulldozer will attack the pc, why, he'll just keep attacking himself. And you'll find him trying to run this. The pc will do weird things. They get themselves all kinds of PTPs between sessions.

And the fellow who is saying, "I wonder if I could have been a whizzer?" See, that's the period where he's sort of coming out of the morass — coming up to a point where he can inspect.

And they get themselves all mucked up, and they're having chronic present time — or present time problem of long duration maritally. And during the session, why, they'll go out and phone the marital partner two thousand miles away, you see, to — and start a hell of a fight. And it looks to you like they just got restimulated and they're just . . . No, no, no, no. See, they're in the middle of this terminal and this terminal makes a backfire against them, you see. And they'll just keep on making the terminal backfire against them, see. It's the darnedest thing you ever saw.

So your listing, differentiating, nulling, finding and proving an item, is leading a person further and further along the line of being able to inspect and is lessening his identity with MEST because all of these valences are composed of matter, energy, space and time and trapped postulates.

And yet the pc may hit one of these that's sufficiently strong to make him look totally pan-determined on the same basis I was just describing to you. Pc will get very reasonable about everything They get very reasonable about this terminal, see. They get very reasonable.

They haven't got thetans in them; they got trapped postulates in them. You can see the postulates come to view. The person doesn't see himself coming out of these things. He sees at first the ideas of them come alive. And then eventually, why, hell — he sees there's been a thetan in them, namely him.

They say, "Well, that's not a bad thing. That's really a good thing, and so forth." And well, a vestal virgin collector or something like this on the whole track, you see. And they'll say, "Well, that's very reasonable. And that's a lovely terminal. And I had a lot of fun doing that." And they go on, "And it's a perfectly nice terminal. And isn't that fine?"

So what you've got in 3D Criss Cross — a gradient scale of bailing somebody out. Well, of course, the extreme condition you're bailing him out of is you're auditing a brick wall. You're not auditing anything, except an object, an identity. You're auditing a plumber, see. It doesn't even register, see. The Goals Problem Mass has no registry on it of any kind whatsoever.

And you get whipped in about this. And you say, "Well, that terminal isn't very important, you see. It must be something else because the pc says so." No, that isn't true at all. That's the terminal that defeats the pc. He's not pan-determined about that terminal at all. He's being totally other-determined about the terminal.

At that stage of the game, before any differentiation took place, if by some necromancy you had been able to look over the shoulder of Yahweh or Tetragrammaton or whatever the fellow's name was... Somebody keeps books on somebody. I think he has an angel that keeps books. And if you'd read the angel's books and not got that from auditing the pc and you found out he'd been a waterbuck and a tiger and a whizzer and a plumber, see, off the good books and you said, "Waterbuck, tiger, whizzer, plumber," you know, you would get no reaction on the meter at all.

The terminal is all. The pc is nothing That's all it adds up to. Well, if it just stopped there, you'd be able to run it out easily. You'd be able to run it out very, very easily. But it doesn't stop there. You get into that area, the terminal attacks the pc. It's not just nothing It's less than nothing.

It wouldn't do you a bit of good to know all the Goals Problem Mass on a pc if the pc didn't know any part of the Goals Problem Mass on him. Because you'd get no registry. Because you're reading those items which are there which are not as-isable because there's nothing there to as-is them. He's just in them. But he's not there in them. They just are. And they look to him like packages of MEST when he first begins to view them.

So you have this funny thing of man, the object and picture of man, trying to destroy himself. You have all of these odd phenomena that you continuously encounter of the self-destructive aspects and impulses of man.

They're balls of energy sitting in space. They have mass. Sometimes some time gets connected with them and pieces of MEST when he first looks at them. Well, he is that MEST when you first encounter these things. And there's no differentiation of any kind at all in his mind. So you don't get any read on the needle.

You have a bunch of politicos sitting around a peace table, and they rig it all up so they're going to have another war in twenty-one years, see. Good heavens! I mean, why, the idiots, you know.

No, you have to approach this from the point of view, not even of, "Could this have been me?" That will occur to him rapidly enough.

And you say, "Well, why did they do that?" Well, why did they do that? They were being very other-determined. That's all. And each one of those politicos was sitting there trying to figure it out so he and his country would be defeated.

You say, "Who or what — ." You notice he scratches his left ear. Let's take some weird gradient here. This is not necessarily a proper approach at all. But let's take a lightest possible approach. And you notice he very often scratches his left ear. And so you say, "Who or what would oppose scratching an ear or a left ear?" We do a long list of this thing.

Every once in a while in administrative activities, some staff member will blink and his jaw will drop. I will give him a piece of paper to sign — that somebody should sign, you see? Something's giving us trouble someplace or another. Something's going over the hills and far away, and give him a piece of paper to sign. I always take this chance because there's a possibility it'll happen, you see. And as a matter of fact, it's quite — the odds are in favor that it will work out this way, because this person is already doing something very destructive in attacking Scientology or something of the sort, and so forth.

All of a sudden, why, the item that falls out of it is, "a doctor." And he suddenly has a picture of a doctor in school who used to tell them never put anything smaller than your elbow in your ear.

So you sign up a confession you know, or sign up a note or sign up a document — write up, rather — document taking full responsibilities for this or that or the other thing. Just a suicidal legal document, you know. I'll write it up and give it to the attorney and . . . I don't give these to attorneys anymore. The attorney will sit there, and he'll be very other-determined about the whole thing, you know. How nobody would sign this and very unreasonable. It'd be very unfair to the person who's signing. Well, they're being very unfair to us, why not be unfair to them?

And he gets an actual identity. And this actual identity falls out of the bank and there it is. Well, you know. Well. Suddenly the past track, you know, there's something a little more real to him here, you see.

But the attorney couldn't possibly figure out this because it'd ruin all attorneying if this principle were broadly known. About eighty percent of their cases would just go pffft. And you set it down in front of the person, and you say, "Sign it."

Now, "Who or what would oppose the doctor?" you see. And if we did something like that, there's another identity that he was being obsessively in. It tends to come out just a little bit, you know?

And the person reads it over. "I hereby guarantee to pay $1,750,000 damages and fully and freely confess that I burned the house down and . . ." — anything.

You're getting something there which can as-is. See, we're moving from a not there and therefore can't as-is. Can't as-is because one is not there. These other things are there, but he is not there. You see, it's an other-determined condition entirely. We moved that on a gradient to these other things being more and more and more observed. And of course, on this gradient we get more and more awareness of self.

"Sign it!"

And of course, we have more there to as-is. Now, you've heard me tell you for years and years and years and years and years that the most difficult pc was the one who couldn't as-is, whose thought didn't have any effect on anything.

"Is that satisfactory?"

You've heard that one. All right. Now, put that together with what I've told you tonight. Of course, the least condition of having an effect on anything is not even knowing you were there to have any effect on it. So that sums that case up instantly. And that tells you why 3D Criss Cross has a constant, continuous gain. That — this is what I'm telling you is the therapeutic value of 3D Criss Cross.

I don't know what the percentage is, but it's a very high percentage that whenever I've done that, the other person signs.

Now, if you're not getting tone arm action during listing of 3D Criss Cross then you're not there and they're not enough there to have you there, so of course, nothing is as-ising.

I only have trouble with our own attorneys. They're always trying to make a fight out of it, see. And they'll win the other person's case for them if you don't watch them. So you try to bypass them. Because the truth of the matter is that somebody who's so nonsurvival as to try some stupid, silly attack against us somehow or another, can usually be counted upon to be sufficiently nonsurvival they will also commit suicide from a legal viewpoint. And they do. It's amazing.

Well, you've got some tiny action. Yes, you could probably keep it up. you could probably win from that tiny gradient.

In other words, about sixty, seventy percent of the cases perhaps, that walk into court down here, the litigants involved, if either one of the litigants made up a document saying, "Well, I..." and you know, just made it terrible . . . You know, there's a 50-pound debt involved and if he'd — if somebody would just write up a judgment for 200 pounds at compound interest (you know, 50 pounds and a 150-pounds damages) and then with compound interest, and then a jail penalty or something in it, you see, and draw it all up in this totally vicious document, you see, and just give it to the other person to sign; the other person — oh, yes, yes, they'd sign it. They know. They appreciate it because it's agin them. That's where they belong.

But there's another way to approach this situation. And that is to use the CCHs. And when you do this the pc appears — pardon me, the beingness of John Doe and the beingness of the auditor — no thetans or other beingness — but those two identities appear. And out of all the nowhereness we've got an observation of identity. See, we've got an observation of present time identity.

You see, the world operates on the basis that everybody defends himself and that everybody is on the kick of self-preservation. And this is not so. The people who are causing trouble in this world are not on a kick of selfpreservation. They're on a kick of succumb. And our biggest trouble is they look to an auditor, or they look to an organization, or they look to me, to be an executioner.

Now, objects can — all cases go on this gradient of show up. This is items that show up. And they go on this gradient. But some cases are not as far south as others. But this would be the extreme gradient: Future items, present time items, present life items, past life items. And as we go north from a case that's all the way south we would first pick up future items. Sounds crazy, doesn't it, but it's true. We'd pick up future items and then we would pick up present time items and then we would pick up present life items and then we would pick up past life items.

And we only get in serious trouble when we refuse to fill the role. That is quite amazing. You'll see this work out in your own activities, I am sure.

All right. Now, if a person isn't getting much tone arm motion, it's much easier to cut them into this scale suddenly, clank, with CCHs. See, without struggling around about it and monkeying with it, well, let's just cut them in to present time items, namely, an identity pc and an identity auditor. Let's not worry about where they're lurking on the track. Let's just cut them into present time and take off from there.

I think you — some of you have seen it work out in organizations and so on. But you're trying to be reasonable. This guy walks up and he says, "The organization is no good, and everybody in it ought to be killed and so forth. And you're in bad, you're bad people," or saying something like this. Or he's going all around the neighborhood . . . He's usually not anything direct like that. He's usually going around the neighborhood saying, "That's really a communist organization," you see, to all the shopkeepers or something like that.

Of course, you get enough control, communication and havingness going in present time and the individual will sooner or later get the idea that the identity can reach this other identity called auditor and certainly that the other identity called auditor can reach the identity called pc and therefore they are two different identities. That is the first lesson that is learned. And that is the first CCH items that show up.

And right away all your legal advice says you sue him for slander. No, you present him with a confession and an award of damages for having slandered. And just draw it up in a legal form and give it to him and he'll sign it, and you'll execute in court. And that's all there is to it. you don't sue him.

See, as when you're going — when you're going at 3D Criss Cross on this route you attain your first two items by CCHs. Sometimes the first one is auditor and sometimes the first one is pc. Sometimes the first one is pc and the — and the second one is auditor. But those are the first two items that show up.

The guy has only one enemy. See, himself, exclusively. He just has one enemy. And he'll go on and fight until he finds a satisfactory succumb. You try to make a bargain with this fellow. You keep saying, "Well, all right. You pay $200." And your ordinary bargaining is, "All right. And you — all right. Well, you won't pay $200? All right. Pay $150. Oh, well, all right. You won't pay $150, pay $100." See, you're trying to make a deal, see. Ah, that's the wrong direction.

In other words, they get a higher and higher ability to differentiate between pc and auditor and auditor and pc. You're not really differentiating that way.

You say to this person, "$200."

We do have one of these CCHs that you're well acquainted with called Op Pro by Dup. which actually does forcefully show the individual... Oh, inevitably, if you run enough Op Pro by Dup smoothly enough you're going to have the pc sort of saying, "You know, I'm kind of out here looking at the body do it. You know, I mean. . ." It's a gradient. Their arms get thin or objects get thin. Something happens that they're not so cockeyed sure that they are an it and they get an observational point of view. That's if Op Pro by Dup is going to work, that's the direction it works. It's a great exteriorization process.

The person, "Oh, no, no, no."

Of course, exteriorization is terribly violent. It's without a gradient scale at all. This is not saying this isn't Op Pro by Dup exteriorization. That's not violent. But I'm talking about now, exteriorization.

And you say, "Well, $250? $300?" You finally get it up to $790, and that's how much he thinks he ought to cut his throat for. And he signs at that point.

We say, oh, well, you want to get this guy separated from items. Ho-ho. Well, that's easy. Try not to be three feet back of your head, you know. Bang! The guy's three. . . All of a sudden he says, "What! I'm not that? God help me." you see and bang, he'll go back in or fly into other valences or something like that. Oh-oh-oh-oh. Shakes him up. Gives him a — gives him quite a start. Quite a shock.

This principle of other-determinism — I'm not driving it home to you as though we operate this way exclusively, and so forth. But if some guy goes on a psychotic spin and starts attacking the organizations or something of the sort, which happens rarely enough, our legal advice is normally and generally 100 percent wrong, because it's operating on the basis that those people are being self-determined. And if those other people that are attacking you are being other-determined, then they will not settle any reasonable deal that gives them a benefit.

It was very funny. A few minutes afterwards it would be very vivid to him. And a day or so later, it never happened. You've had it happen to you as an auditor, I'm sure.

You have to make a deal which is murderous to them. you just keep worsening the deal you make, you see, and they'll eventually square it up. That's how legal matters get hung up. Because this third state of mind is the one that gets in everybody's road — other-determined frame of mind, whether on a subject or as a general mental attitude. And that's the one that gets in your road in processing

"No. Why, the auditor keeps saying he exteriorized me. Why, he didn't exteriorize me, no."

You, the auditor, try to get easier and easier processes, less and less condemnatory, less and less damaging, lighter and lighter, lighter and lighter Prepcheck questions, trying to go through an area of other-determinism on the pc. And you'll find out, quite ordinarily, that when you start going in the lighter and lighter direction, you'll be less and less successful.

Person was outside saying, "Gee, my gosh! Really! Oh no!" And you know. "Gosh," you know. "What about that, you know!"

I have watched you on Prepchecking get lighter and lighter and feather touched and more feather touched and so forth. Less and less arduous Prepcheck questions, you see. you drift off of the violence of them.

Next day, "No, I didn't exteriorize. Nothing actually happened at all."

Always go the opposite direction. This type of Prepcheck question doesn't work, well, we toughen it up and toughen it up and toughen it up and toughen it up and toughen it up, and finally we get the one that the pc is sure will make them lose adequately, to go through one of these other-determined valences. And they'll buy that one. You'll get tone arm action and everything else.

In other words, you can, on your determinism, blow him out of his 'ead. But that wasn't on 'is determinism. So you've blown somebody out of his head who is in no position to recognize that he is any different. And the only way he can survive is by being an identity, some other identity and being thoroughly enmeshed in it.

It's a sort of a bloody-minded frame of mind if you don't mind x saying so. you would just — you would be very interested how this works out. I don't mean that you have to shout at him louder and louder. That isn't what I'm saying What you do is, you just give him rougher and rougher questions. Not lighter and lighter and easier and easier questions. Our ordinary summation of it would be that we'd make the questions lighter and lighter. And that isn't really the way it works when we're trying to push through this area.

And that's good. That's good and safe and so forth and you give him no chance to get used to it. Well frankly, 3D Criss Cross is an exteriorization process. It does it on a tremendous gradient. It's a very, very gradient, gradient. Very slow. Item after item, mass after mass that the person has been in, the person begins to come out of. And they don't even come out of them very far, each one at a time, don't you see? They don't violently come out of them. Their attention goes on the things and as you increase though, the individual passes into an ability to as-is. And the last item that will come off is the one which was most sacred. And the one which was most sacred was the one that was him. Because he wasn't there and it was. And that would be the most extreme case on the bank of, "it was there but he wasn't there." And he wasn't there at all, not even vaguely was he present. He was it.

I must tell you this because you'll be pushing pcs through other-determined valences rather consistently when you're running 3D Criss Cross, you see.

You ask any pc. He says, "Oh, well, I just want to be myself."

They've got an other-determined valence. You found it. It's in full view. And on that valence they will only buy suicidal-type processes. Quite fascinating. They will only do suicidal things in processing. Quite interesting.

You say, "Well, good. What's yourself?"

I don't mean that they're trying to kill themselves, but they'll only buy things that look like they could have a good chance of knocking them off.

He'll give you something, but it won't be really what he's being He'll just give you a lock on it. He never gives you the real one and just gives you a lock on that thing.

You tell them, "Well, this is terrible. This is an awful process. And I hate to have to run it on you because it is just too murderous."

But he'll finally be able to answer that question of what he is. And the one step out from that is he really is just — just "me," you know. He's just a "me." He is not a dandy with a three-foot top hat carrying a two-foot-nine cane, smoking Murad cigarettes, see? That is not what he is. It's just "me." And this is going to drive somebody batty someday when they're doing listing, you know. The guy keeps saying "me, me." you know, it's toward — way toward — you got about thirty, forty, fifty items, you know. Case has been progressing real well.

"Oh, well, all right."

And, "Yeah and what would oppose that?"

And they run like a dream, see.

"Well, just me. Just me. Just me."

And you say, "Now, we're having difficulty here. Therefore, we're going to have a very — we're going to do a very light process." Bog. See? It doesn't fit the same frame of mind.

And you finally get an item which is "me," which would of course be your last item. But of course before you get that last item that is really "me," you have thirty, forty, fifty items at the absolute minimum, all of which the pc knows are "me." But this last one, he finally knows that is me. That is just me.

Pc has — well, let's see, "What have you — what have you done wrong? What do you consider you've done wrong? Well, you've . . ."

"What would oppose that?"

Pc tells you, "I occasionally look at people."

"Me."

And you don't get any tone arm motion at looking at people, so I ought to — just liable to go off into a spatter of question marks if I'm not getting anyplace with it. Just trying to set up a Zero question of some kind or another.

Well, that's of course, if you did the whole of whole track dynamic clearing with 3D Criss Cross only, assessment only, never running, if you assessed out, that would be your final item.

"Well, what do you do? Do you ever throw rocks at people? Throw rocks through windshields? Kick people? Stab people? Drag people down back alleys and slip a knife into them? Take them into basements and torture them to death? Some sort of a thing for which the police would arrest you instantly and come streaming in the door this moment? If the police did come streaming in the door at this moment, what would they be here to arrest you for?" And all of a sudden, they'll give you their — the chain.

But of course, every item before you get there, each one is, of course, "me."

Either on the basis of a protest, "Well, it's not that bad. It's just coercing women. I — it's — heh-heh. That's all I've done." See, or something like that. It's either — it's a little less than what you said — you've exaggerated it and made it too much — or it's gotten awful enough and dangerous enough that it is self-destructive enough from their point of view that they will own up to it.

So there is the substance of the thing and there — how the bank sets together. There's the person who can't as-is. There is how you get a person to as-is.

And then you have to operate all the time on half-truth, untruth. Every few questions, get that half-truth, untruth rudiment straight, because a person going in this state will overstate the case and try to destroy themselves.

Your CCHs cut into this very simply and very easily by simply slashing into present time and finding two items in present time — auditor, pc. Also, can find another item — wall.

I was giving a demonstration here one night when you saw somebody doing this when we were pushing him through a certain zone and area. And all of a sudden he was trying to make things blow, he said, remember, by admitting to more things or making it worse, making it sound worse, remember?

And even if these items — a person knows he isn't these things, he becomes much less these things as he goes along.

We were pushing through a certain valence zone or item attitude, see — you don't mind my mention of that? — a certain zone of thinkingness, you see. And it was actually an other-determined zone of thinkingness. And frankly, there isn't much profit in processing anything else, because self-determinism isn't particularly batty. And pan-determinism certainly isn't batty.

One comment. How does all this happen? I mean how does a person get that interiorized? And I just want to make one comment here because it's now late and just one little comment.

So this relegates you, really, to the processing of other-determined attitudes. Selfdestructive attitudes. It's the only thing that's giving the pc any trouble. That's what he's doing to himself. He's trying to destroy himself. And you're trying to help him out, to get him through an area where he's trying to destroy himself. And you're trying to help him through this area where he is trying to destroy himself. And frankly it takes a bit of auditing. Because the pc will take almost anything you try to do for him and convert it into a motivator.

How does a person get this way? By asserting a reaction of an identity or an object. He's asserting that it will react. That is the clue to all future interiorization.

You say, "Well, good chap, take a moment's rest. End of session." This is a screaming ARC break. Well, know what you're looking at. you ran into a zone of other-determinism.

Now, that — it sounds silly. If you wanted to set up this chain reaction you could say this piece of paper will react. And you've set up the overt-motivator sequence, you see. This piece of paper will react, you said. If you do so-and-so then this paper will do so-and-so to you. That's going even a little further than it just will react.

Well, what is this other-determinism? Let's be very precise. I've shown you its application in processing. Now, let's take up this original proposition here again.

You see, a first gradient is this paper will react. The laws of reaction, don't you see. But then if you do something to this paper, this paper will do something to you. Now, you've got the chain well settled and that is the overt-motivator sequence.

Well, other-determinism is a successful sacredity. It's a, "Shouldn't ought to attack." And the person has finally agreed 100 percent that that valence or identity is something that shouldn't be attacked. And the common denominator, therefore, of other-determined valences from beginning to end, are valences with this conviction of, "Shouldn't attack." They're sacred. They must be preserved.

See, if you touch a match to this paper and don't take your hand away, you will be burned. See, if you learned that lesson very thoroughly. If you set up this piece of paper to react in that particular way, you would have set up the sequence which would lead to a fully established overt-motivator sequence.

Now, if you stop and do this mental exercise here for a minute or two — let's just think of this as a mental exercise — if you want to be perfectly safe in this society, what would you be? Let's think it over for a moment. If you want to be perfectly safe in this society, what would you be?

You say steel reacts. You go along and punch your fist into steel and it'll really fix your clock. Now, actually the resistance of steel depends to a large degree upon its conductivity and the fact it doesn't react. See, it doesn't react on itself and it does react on you. See, this is getting a little more complicated but it's all under the heading of react. If you do something to the steel, the steel will do something to you, but nothing will be done to the steel, don't you see? You made the steel sacred, in other words.

All right. Have you done that?

I can see it now. Some metallurgist wanting to make better armor plate for the Royal Navy. He knows how to do it. you just get everybody to sit down and pray down at the iron works and you'd have it made. That would work out just fine providing the enemy heard your prayers. But you'd have to teach the enemy that your steel would react and he would have to believe that.

Audience: Yes.

A shell fired at this steel not only does not dent this steel, but instantly is catalyzed into a blow-back and sails in the same trajectory through the air and goes down the muzzle of the same gun that fired it and explodes therein. Now, that would be real armor.

All right. You have a sacred item. And if you look a little bit further, the item you just thought up, to some zone or area, is sacred to something Do you add that up? That make sense? See, that's how that first equation I gave you in this lecture works out.

Well, that's how your overt-motivator sequence sets up. That's how reactivity sets up with regard to these items. It all comes under these various relatively simple rules, relatively simple laws.

Mustn't be attacked. Of course, that becomes a formidable other-determinism. It inevitably and always becomes an other-determinism and never becomes a self-determinism. Figure that one out.

How you get a fellow fished out to a point where he can look, well, that requires a considerable technical accuracy, but you should know in using that technical accuracy what you're trying to do. You're actually just getting an individual out to a viewpoint. And that's all you're doing Okay?

How could it be a self-determinism? Try to figure out how it could be a self-determinism.

Audience: Yes.

All right. Take this item that you might or might not have, but probably did, think of, you wanted to be. All right. Is that you? Is that really you? It isn't, so therefore it's an other-determinism, isn't it?

All right. Well, there'll be no lectures next week. you will get a chance to study. And I'm very happy about that because the number of passes you've been getting are terrific. But I expect you all to be classified by next Friday.

Now, you see what 3D Criss Cross is barreling at. To some degree then, all items in 3D Criss Cross are other-determinisms. Therefore, the Goals Problem Mass itself is an other-determinism and therefore is seeking to destroy the person who has it.

So you needn't worry about it tonight. You can have a good sleep. And remember sleep is sacred.

Sacredity. I think it's very amusing, if you like to laugh at funerals. I do myself. I do. The last funeral I saw in Kansas, I was perfectly willing. A dead wagon went by, you know, and it was one of these hearses, you know, with the great big plate glass side windows, you know. you could see the coffin in there. Flowers all over it. And here came limousines after it, you know, one after the other, after the other, after the other. More and more limousines. And there were people crying and people sobbing in these limousines.

Good night.

And when the dead wagon — the first one, came by, you see, the hearse came by, why, I pulled off to the side of the road, naturally, and I took off my hat. And all this was just automatic, you know, took off my hat. I sat there and watched this thing go by. And car by car my risibility started getting the better of me, you know. I thought here's this bird, he kicked off, you know, and they shoved this body full of embalming juice, and this bird is sailing around here someplace or another. He probably already picked up somebody in a maternity ward or something of the sort, and he's long gone, you know, and here's these birds left with this piece of MEST, you know. And they're crying and sobbing, you know, and they're filling it full of flowers and embalming fluid, and going to take it out to the graveyard and erect some stone over the top of it, you know. And . . . oh, what a ball, you know.

Car by car, the unreality of these people and their attitude and what they believed, and what I myself knew for a fact, you see, were so far apart that I'm afraid that by the time the last funeral car had passed, I was just doubled up with laughter. I just can't take funerals very seriously. I'm sorry. It's too silly.

I don't think there is a funeral anyplace around now, except maybe Ireland, where they have any thought for the guy. I think in Ireland they still throw the window up hastily so he can get out. I think they still do that in Ireland. But I don't know any other part of the world where they do that.

In China they're on a reverse. They have all kinds of firecrackers and pennants and sort of thing to drive off evil spirits. Start thinking that one over. I haven't been able to take funerals very seriously since that time. you would get the picture better if you really understood the seriousness of a funeral in the Bible Belt. Man, it is the most serious activity I have ever engaged upon in my life.

Sacredity. But what an interesting trap. you know, you're not supposed to speak evil of the dead? Did you ever hear that one? Oh? We're not supposed to as-is any dead? We're not supposed to attack any dead? Oh? What's that going to leave us with? Now where are we going to wind up? A bank stacked up with dead. You're not supposed to be mean to the sick. Oh, come off of it now.

If we're never mean to the sick and we're not supposed to communicate with the sick, we're going to wind up sick, man. Because we've set up a sickness sacredity.

You're not supposed to be mean to old people. Well, we got a new sacredity. There's a grand new way on how you get lots of old people in the bank, you see. And spirits and ghosts and that sort of thing, they're all bad. But there's a lot of saints around that you're supposed to be able to talk to, but you mustn't ever be mean to. you mustn't ever say anything bad about. And you must be reverent toward. Well, that sure sets up an awful lot of interesting attitudes and sidepanels on the subject of spirits, doesn't it. Otherdetermined spirits so that a thetan can't even be himself anymore. He's going to — he's going to be an other-determined thetan. You know, that's getting — that's really getting someplace now.

And then we have the big thetan idea. The big thetan theory. And you're supposed to talk to him, but you can't talk to him, but he won't hear you because he punishes you, because you mustn't say anything bad to him, because if you do talk to him, well, you can't talk to him, and you're totally at his mercy. And then they wonder why they have people around in spinbins saying they're God after having set up the mechanism overtly and directly.

Well I don't say there is or isn't a big thetan. I'm sure you were pretty big at one time or another. There may still be some around that are pretty big. Maybe you're still that big, you know. who knows? Hasn't anything to do with size anyhow.

And then we get — we get all sorts of these things, so these valences look very peculiar, but now what are valences made of? What are valences made of? Well, that's another story. And let it be enough to say that wherever you set up a sacredity, you set up a shouldn't-attack, and you also tend to set up a shouldn't-really-look-at, shouldn't-really-communicate-at — conditional communication, and so forth. And the rougher this gets, the more the other-determinedness gets in the item.

So it goes in direct proportion, that the less you should communicate with and the more conditional the communication, don't you see, why, the more other-determinism will result from the item.

And you can take any 3D Criss Cross item and simply analyze it on the basis of how should or shouldn't, or could or couldn't one attack it, and establish its level of sacredity.

And the most sacred item in the lot is going to give the pc — that is, the most sacred item in the lot to the pc is going to give the pc the most trouble in the bank. There you have a direct index, then, of how to select out a 3D Criss Cross item.

If you were to have twenty lines — this is a lot — with twenty oppterms or forty items in all, and were to combine these things up into various packages and inspect them all and discuss them all with the pc from a viewpoint of how sacred each one was, at that point where the pc takes on a totally benign look, you can absolutely count that at that point you have hit your highest level of other-determinism and your most self-destructive point of the bank. The least the person should attack this thing, why, the most destructive this thing will be to his own self-determinism, don't you see? Because this thing is an overwhelm. We look at it as an overwhelm angle. The thing must intentionally be overwhelmed, you understand? It must have an overwhelmingness to the pc.

It's level of sacredity, in other words, see, attackability of this thing, the deification of mother and all of this kind of thing that you'll run into — there are all kinds of things, you see, on the backtrack. And at different periods they've had different values. So taking these things into account, you would have to shake the thing out; but you do have a direct index: that thing which would be the most sacred, the least attackable.

And also it must carry this condition: the least actual guaranteed communication with. you know, insecurity of communication must also have this point involved. And reach, of course, that's the least havingness, the least havingness, you see, the most uncertain communicatingness, the greatest level of sacredness, the most overwhelming aspect of, combined up into threat from — how dangerous is this thing to the individual? This also must be taken into consideration very definitely.

At first glance, you'd say well, it's anybody's friend, and therefore "friendship" would be the greatest enemy. No, that I'm afraid is not the case. You see what it is? Oh, yeah, you don't want to knock your friends off, that's for sure. But you can talk to your friends. So that rules that out. And your friends aren't trying to overwhelm you all the time. So that rules that out, see. Sacredity — up-on-the-pedestaledness. That sort of thing.

Now, that gives you the key to the Goals Problem Mass. Some of you hearing this are liable to think, "Well, it's only sacred items like gods and spirits and that sort of thing" oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Individuals worship in the most peculiar places. I am, of course, not unaware of this mechanism. And have never been totally unaware of this mechanism. That's why I make sure that you don't run up a bunch of O/W with regard to me and set it up so that you can communicate, you see, at the same time. So we don't want to get an overwhelm situation going, here. We set that up, but nevertheless some people are always — are going to come up straightaway, "Well, it must be Ron, you see."

They do. I watch these analyses every once in a while. The guy to whom they could communicate the most easily, you see, and who would help them the most — that's safe to have as an overwhelm, you see. That's very safe to have as an overwhelm. See, it isn't a real overwhelm at all. Oh, no, no. This one, the person is it while it destroys him. Follow that? That's a lot further. That's several mile posts or light-years down the line from what I just said. You got it?

The person is it. He doesn't exist in this area. That beingness is him, and that beingness is all. And there ain't no "him" there. And every time "him" there starts to emerge in the slightest degree of self-determinism, he gets slapped back. That's the mechanism of the somatic and that is all a somatic is there doing. It slaps the guy back every time he puts his head up.

Now, you'll find the basic element in the bank which is the most sacred, you will find the pc being it and in that condition, and so you could separate this out rather easily. Follow me? Horrifying vista I have opened for you, haven't I?

Audience: Yes.

Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.

Good enough. Well, take a ten-minute break and think it over.