This is the third hour on uh… December the 9th afternoon lectures. Uh… let’s further examine Agree and Have and characteristics of flow.

All right, this is the first hour of the night lecture, December the 9th.

I mean, when you examined the chart there on ARC, you found that volume per unit space determined the position on the tone scale. As you got down to the flows, dispersals and ridges, low on the tone scale towards 0, you had an awful lot of matter for a very small amount of space. And when you went up scale, you found out that you had little matter for lots of space.

In this hour I’d like to cover something about flows. You have already had some acquaintance with Technique 80 and Technique 88. If you haven’t, you should have. The book 8-80 is, as I say, the high tide of the Confederacy on agreeing with the MEST universe. It covers flows; it covers dichotomies; it covers how you make energy and covers all sorts of things. It doesn’t cover ‘em to the extreme limit that they can be covered, but they certainly are covered to the level that an auditor should know about them.

Now that, of course, it’s uh… indicative there of considerable perversity, actually, as far as space and so forth is concerned. This is uh… also indicative of what aberration does and is. It’s too much per unit space. And you get no action in too much per unit space. You don’t even get much thinking in unit space as far as MEST universe beingness is concerned.

But this book is written as though we knew nothing but this kind of processing. It’s written from that viewpoint. And uh… what you should know about flows is that they are of tremendous, unbelievably tremendous concern to your preclear. That’s very interesting.

So we start looking over the proposition, we find out that a person, then, should have quite a bit of space for his havingness. If he has a lot of space for his havingness, why, his time is fluid and he… he’s… he’s light, hi… his uh… aesthetics can more easily enter in because it’s very hard for an aesthetic wave to enter anything that’s very gross and heavy. An aesthetic wave doesn’t transmit easily over something that’s gross and heavy. That doesn’t say it can’t, but it just doesn’t.

He is down scale because he won’t go up scale through the flow bands. It would be wonderful if he could suddenly postulate himself at 40, and then ride it. But if he could postulate himself at 40, he would have to postulate himself at 40. And then to postulate himself at 40 he would have to suddenly postulate himself outside the MEST universe, bang! Because 40 has potentialities and capabilities, but not geographical location.

Have you ever tried to draw a picture uh… for instance, and uh… you looked at the MEST universe reproduction you were making – you were going through the MEST universe you see – and the thing that comes out does not match what you should have built. This is the cry of all architects, painters, sculptors, and so on, is „Here… here is this horrible thing! Every time I try to think something up, it always falls short of“ they used to call it „the ideal.“ When they say „ideal,“ they might as well say „an idea.“

You couldn’t have a 40 who was also even vaguely connected with a body. A 40 wouldn’t be connected with a body – not even vaguely. He wouldn’t be holding on to anything that looked like an object. He wouldn’t have any of these various spatial and possession limitations or necessities or any framework by which to form up a necessity. He could postulate: „Now I will pretend I need something“ but the actuality is that he’d never be able to convince himself that he needed anything.

Now the funny part about it is, is that theta can communicate in terms of ideas without this interruption of flows. You see, ARC becomes bad when you start getting into MEST universe type flows. And it becomes almost impossible to maintain. But as we go up the tone scale and things become lighter and lighter, a person can, of course, become much more ethical and at the same time, lots less serious.

So look at your preclear… look at your preclear who thinks he needs all sorts of things, and look at your difference between that and 40.

It sounds funny that a person who is very serious is liable to fall short on his ethics. He is more likely to go into a moral code, something good and solid and heavy, you see, that’ll kill somebody unless he follows it – and that’s the idea.

Well, the reason your preclear thinks he needs all sorts of things has something to do with a body; is down at the lower band of the scale; is not that he cannot use ideas. It is simply that he is, you might say, like infantry – pinned down by enemy fire. He’s really pinned down! In a most adequate sense, uh… he’s pinned down by flows, because he can’t handle them himself, he escapes back of them.

So as we get up tone scale, we find that individuals are airier and lighter and actually more aesthetic. So that the heavier wave lengths are favored down around 0.0, and the lighter wave lengths are favored up around 40.0 and down. You see, you sort of have a scheme thereby by which… by which at 40.0 you have theta operating, really, only with uh… very close aesthetic waves; and down around uh… 1.0 or something of the sort, why you have theta mainly concerned with the solidity of objects. And… and it’s uh… that is to say, you’re worried in that band, you’re then worried about effort. How much effort is it to do something?

Now when I say „flows“ I am being too narrow in that terminology. I should say „ridges, dispersals“ uh… all of those things that constitute manifestations of energy, including „objects.“ Now you might as well say „object“ as say „flow.“ A flow is an object. It’s a particle flow. It’s a flow of particles that has been postulated that something is there and that something is changing. And because there is something there and that something changes, we have „have.“ And out of this you get „time.“

The person who tries to do an aesthetic job on this universe will generally go down tone scale fairly fast because he’s trying to apply this light, airy little wave to things that are heavy masses. And it just doesn’t work out well.

Now uh… you just postulate that you’ve got a… a particle, and then the particle is something else in this space in which you’re oriented, and you have an object. There isn’t, really, any difference in the anatomy, except more of it, between a solid object and any bit of energy. The physicist is learning that slowly, but he gets all snarled up every once in a while.

You can mock up a stage and a play in your own mind which with a flash appears in great beauty. And uh… in the MEST universe it takes carpenters, and carpenters belong to unions; and uh… it takes lumber and that has to be sawed up, and that comes down, and there’s people that are worried about the… the mass of this – and uh… this and oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

It was with great shock that he opened up with cyclotrons and found out that an electrical flow had mass, and that an electron had mass. Well, sure it has mass! How the devil did he think it could change in space if it didn’t have mass? This would be the idiocy beyond idiocy, you see, to suppose that there was a whatsis which could exist without a something-sis. That would just he idiotic.

Now it takes a pretty airy hand, by the way, to handle a lot of MEST. You’d think it would take a very solid, serious hand. But that doesn’t handle MEST, not worth a nickel. It takes good airy treatment. If you can take a look out at a massive space and say, „Well, now let’s put something or other there.“

Now you could say an idea, that’s observable and within experience, can exist without relationship to space or energy. There are ideas floating along the track in this culture which are killers. They’re just ideas, that’s all they are, they’re just floating along. And they’re not floating along in time – that’s because they don’t exist in time. They are carried they are in agreement with people, and therefore being in agreement with people, people – conceiving that they move in time and have to have – suppose the idea to be in motion. Because it’s with them in present time and their havingness in present time is different than the present time which immediately passed.

And uh… somebody comes around and they say, „Why do you want it there?“ „Well, I don’t know. It would just look good.“ And they say „Well, you’ve got to have a better reason than that.“

Do you see how easy that is, then, to conceive that an idea… it has motion in it? Well, an idea contained in a mass of energy and inflicted upon the individual out of a mass of energy, and by a mass of energy, isn’t an idea, but an energy pattern, being inflicted by energy – a certain pattern of energy hitting a person.

You’d say, „Nuts to you, fella!“ Uh… because there isn’t any better reason than that.

Now this would be what you might call an aberrated idea. All the axioms uh… deal along the line there with uh… homo sapiens and his view of energy. And homo sapiens, in viewing energy, views his ideas as an energy form. Every thought is preceded by an effort; it says – I think it’s Axiom 121 – uh… every effort uh… then will result in some sort of a thought, too – one way or the other.

You want something to work on an aesthetic band. Of course, theta favors an aesthetic band because that’s closest in to motionlessness; it’s closest in to the fine wave length which can append to theta itself. Theta can communicate through aesthetics much, much before it is capable of communicating through reason.

Well, isn’t it interesting that uh… isn’t it extremely interesting that a homo sapiens would be pinned down to that degree? Because he… this is true as far as he’s concerned. You take any thought, almost any thought he has and uh… you can start working with it and it will turn into an effort. In other words, his thinkingness is at the effort band and therefore he’s having a rather rough time of it.

And then people say „Well, I wonder what the reason was behind that painting.“

So let’s… let’s take a look, then, at what thought would be. You’d have thought, then, at one end existing without energy, and then you would have thought existing with energy. And let’s just, out of uh… anybody or any being on which energy can make a large effect would be considered to be an aberrated being, so therefore Axiom 121 becomes correct, when we say – I think that’s the number – when we say, „Every aberrated thought is preceded by a counter-effort.“ And that’s true! Because you can run down the track on any aberrated idea a person has and find that idea all wrapped up in energy for which he is taking no responsibility, and which, therefore, has a command value on him.

Well, let’s just put the cart before the horse, and let’s put a couple more carts in front of the horse because that’s just nonsense. The reason behind the painting is the painting. That’s all. A person has to start on up tone scale to get the full appreciation out of this.

All right, what’s the answer to this? Then we have two categories of thought: There’s the category of thought which you could call the postulate level; and then you could have a… a category uh… which would have to do with uh… an evaluation or uh… a supposition or a play-like sort of a… of an idle speculation or a meaningful speculation or anything like that could be with that postulate. And it would be just a little bracket down from the postulate. And that’d be clear up the tone scale, clear up off of 40.0 – above that. You could have a postulate, then; you could have combinations of things that would add up into postulates and so forth. You could also have sensation up there, because a fellow can postulate a sensation, and he could also postulate that a sensation could exist without energy. Uh… there’s no limitation up there at that band.

Well, let’s look a little bit more at Have and Have Not, and Agree and Disagree, and Want and Not Want, and we find out that there is such a thing as a tractor beam. And there’s such a thing as pressor beams. So you can reverse this situation with selective use of tractors and pressors. You can have something move in your direction with a tractor beam, and when it starts to agree, it’ll get an outflow. You’re pulling agreement out of something. You get that.

Now let’s come down band and find out what thought is as supposed by homo sapiens. Thought is something that you’d better think about because you would have to pr… propose and resolve problems relating to survival; and you have homo sapiens’ definition of mind. That is a different type of thinking, actually, and a different type of mind because it plots itself against time.

Every once in a while you’ll find somebody that has a reversal on Agree and Disagree. What they’re doing is operating on somebody else’s tractor. They’re… they’re… they’re not… they’re not doing too well in a lot of ways and a lot of things.

Time has to have a havingness; has to be space and energy to have time. And so therefore you have the postulates and evaluations way up here could exist without time. You… you could do anything with that because you’re integrating and you’re multiplying and you’re adding into the formula of thinking; you’re adding zero. So one equals two, and so on. There isn’t any time factors involved in that. And when we come down tone scale, the mind of homo sapiens poses and relates problems relating to survival.

They’re… you say, „All right, now get the flow of Agree,“ and this person will get the flow – yeah, they’ll get an outflow! Tohoohoo. What’s this mean? It means the space immediately in front of them isn’t even vaguely theirs; and it means that they are flowing at something else’s command and behest; and that this something else’s agreement has become almost a coincidence of space with this person. This person will then be found to be more or less in valence with somebody else, so that their agreements cause an in-pull. That would be by a tractor wave.

Then what is the mind at the theta level doing? You could say it’s amusing itself. You could say it’s uh… it’s postulating purpose so that it will have purpose. But it’s not a driven activity. And thought, to Man on the level that we first had it in Dianetics – that’s perfectly correct, that material, by the way. That is Man; that’s how he thinks, and so on. The Axioms describe that activity. It is a process which is a driven process. You sit homo sapiens down and feed him full of food and give him everything which he wants and you don’t pose any problems in his road, and so forth. He doesn’t stop thinking, but he starts speculating. He starts sort of postulating and fooling around and so forth. He isn’t idle uh… mentally, but he’s still doing a bridge type of thing. He’s trying to think above 40.0, and he’s actually existing lower on the scale than that.

You very often find a person’s parents, for instance, have fixed tractor waves on them. This is tractor waves of desire – very interesting. They’ve got tractor waves on him. The parents pull.

But if you want a man to think… homo sapiens to think, take a whip. Get a machine out of repair. Get something intimately related to survival going haywire, and homo sapiens will think. At the level of homo sapiens it is true that necessity is the mother of invention. Above 40.0 there is no necessity. Immediately that sometimes goes against somebody’s grain, when they recognize that above 40.0 we don’t… we don’t have this… this drive, drive of necessity.

Now there’s reverse tractors too. There isn’t any reason to get too wound up about this because this is very simple. People go around with „wanting to be wanted“ tractors. How do you work that out? Well, here we have „I“ and „I“ has this tractor wave which is not a compulsion, but he’s doing a „Schluurph.“ „You will agree.“ Now unfortunately that, of course, gets on anybody but the quite aberrated, that gets this flow uh… pardon me, on any but the quite aberrated this would be uh… agree. So what we get is this flow with that tractor.

Then they’d say, „Well, you wouldn’t get anything done.“

So we get this „You will agree“ tractor is resulting in that. See how that is? He pulls in „You will agree“ and he gets disagreement. See how that is? He wants to be agreed with and he gets disagreed with: that’s the trick.

„Well, why do you want to get something done?“ Well, uh… you see, it’s uh… – Man trying to think about 40.0 puts it back into the framework of homo sapiens. Well, we’ve got homo sapiens’ framework pretty well nailed down and uh… you look at that, „Yeah, yeah.“ So just w… watch this when you’re processing a preclear; watch him come up scale. He will do more and more of speculation without MEST universe reason, he will do more and more thinking without MEST universe reason connected with it. No driven thought. The driven thought starts dropping out and simply postulate level and „What-if’s“ and „Let’s play likes“ uh… will start drifting in. And uh… you get more and more of that as you go up scale.

Now, he’ll get around to a point, then, where he’ll reverse this vector and he’ll put a tractor wave with the open end thataway. And it says „agree“ – „You will agree“. And what he does is want this person over here to pull in. He wants this person over here to grab on to that tractor and agree.

Well, this thing would break, theoretically, and the person would be relatively free of being driven around 24, 25, 26 on the tone scale – up in that hand up there. His space would be so adequate and his needs would be so lacking in needfulness, that he could do a great deal of fooling around without getting into very much trouble.

Do you see here, Figure 2? People go around with these doggone fool reverse-end tractors that they fasten on people. They put the open end of the tractor on people to get these people to want them, to desire them. And this actually is the way sensation works.

Now there’s no necessity to be right. Uh… there’s no penalty for being wrong; uh… there isn’t any „hit or God-help-us“ level of survival going on. We… we aren’t… we aren’t running along at the tick of o’clocks, and uh… when it gets to be such and such o’clock, that’s uh… that’s uh… such and such a period of havingness one „have’s“ uh… at the dinner table. And when it gets to be the next period of havingness, one „have’s“, and then one works through the next 48 hours so that one can „have,“ and uh… he… he… he works hard. And then he gets some havingness so that he can „have.“ In other words, he’s just got lots of this sort of thing.

If you’re around a pretty girl, or something like that, very long, boy she’s got one of these tractors here which is just doing a beautiful job. Figure 2: She says „Want me. Want me. Want me.“

And if he… if he runs into a long period of „not-have’s“ why he gets skinny and he doesn’t do so well and they bury him. So you… you see how this plots? As you regulate havingness you would be regulating the driven characteristic of thought. And havingness is a sort of a driven way of thinking about things.

The odd part of it is, the second anybody picks up that tractor, what do they start? They start, in Figure 3, they start of course, this flow, which again is „Don’t have me“.

Now what pins him down is, just that: it’s, just havingness.

So this is… this up here is „Want me“ and this is „Reject, me“. The second that thing is pulled on. So you get the tease variety. This is because… and what happens is it’s an automatic recurrence. I mean, it’s just an automatic action. The second this person – although they have this tractor up there with an open end, ready for anybody to use – the second anybody starts to hook energy in their direction or pull in their direction they feel an outflow and the outflow immediately causes them to feel „Don’t have me.“ And so you get the extreme caprice on such a thing.

Now when you jump this fellow out of his body, get him to Theta Clear, he is still not adequate in his handling of energy and he will keep on banging back against the body and… and still being part of a MEST group and he’ll caroom off the walls, so to speak, and fool around and fool around and fool around – unless you recognize where you’re going and what you’re doing. You’re trying to bring him up above the level of driven thought. And it would be only fair to say that an individual becomes an… unaberrated when he ceases to be in the driven thought band.

Now this works this way in… in… in uh… where you get a… one of these tractors. It, of course, works over here with uh – this person is doing an in-pull, and so on.

Necessity is the mother of invention. It is also the mother of aberration. When he hasn’t a necessity to drive, or when his necessities are so easily fulfilled that uh… you get a complete fluidity about it all, he’s gone up above your action band.

You could actually have a situation where „you“ here, has one of these open-ended tractors and where „I“ here has uh… an open-ended tractor. And what do you get? You get coincidence of being: they both want to be wanted. They both want to be wanted, and there can be a momentary stability of wantingness. And this line up here contracts from point A to point B and then contracts to what? AB – to a point.

But don’t think that just because he goes up the pole and gets ecstatic and starts spinning like a spinning mouse uh… that he has suddenly achieved this goal. There is the phenomenon known as „going up the pole.“ That’s when somebody doesn’t even begin to handle energy, but he just suddenly, somehow or other, latches on to about 40.0 and goes out the top and still holds on to the MEST body at the bottom, and he’s done the incredible thing of making a circle out of all this: he’s joined 0.0 up against 40.0 and to listen to the guy and to talk to the guy, you couldn’t really tell whether he’s ecstatically alive or fatally dead. He’s a terrible state of confusion. This is „going up the pole.“

And then you have two people living the same life, or a thetan in a head. Now one of the things that happens is that when this line starts collapsing, you get a coincidence of being. You just get a momentary stability or instability, and some very successful combinations are when both parties want to be wanted, and they find out that each one wants to be wanted, and they get a coincidence of being. And each one stays fairly stable on this as long as they continue to be assured that the other one wants them.

You can get some people with such a terrific drive of inspiration. Sometimes you will get an idea and this idea will give you a little surge up the pole. And you’ll… you’ll just – bing-zing – and you feel real good and you’re happy and carrying on. Now you can count on it if you get it while encumbered with all this MEST, that this MEST is going to reach out and in three hours or three days or three months or three – well, it’s… I’ve never seen one last longer than three months uh… pull you back right down into the grind. And you say, „Well, I… I found what that ecstacy was once, but that was quite a while ago, and then I learned that one had to be more practical about things,“ and there you go.

But don’t let them find out the other one doesn’t want them! Because neither one of these waves, here in Figure 4, contains „I want you.“ They don’t have an „I want you“ there in Figure 4. There’s „I want you to want me.“

So what’s… that’s the thing that uh… what’s the difference? Well, lend me your ears. Look: Driven thought is driven home by energy. And your thetan, even though you pushed him through a very small knothole, will still have all of his ridges and his various histories and energy patterns connected there unto him. If you looked at him on a plot, you couldn’t even vaguely get him on a plotting board. He is big. These ridges and deposits of energy and so forth, go out just ad infinitum.

So we get this horrible situation, really grim situation, of two people – they go along for years, each one of them perfectly sure that the other one wants them, instead of wants to be wanted – and then one day… one day there’s a little cuff or something of the sort and all of a sudden „you“ over here or „I“ uh… has got this floppy tractor wave that is temporarily disconnected or something of this sort and quite inadvertently somebody else says to them „I want you“ – schluurp! That’s all… all anybody has to say on that.

The best way to test this, and this is s… something you can amuse yourself with sometime, is to start shooting ridges-by velocity. Just pick up velocity of flow and start going through the first bands of ridges immediately near the preclear. Then pick up some more velocity; it gives you the formula in ridge-running, how to do this. Just extend it further. And get him going through with velocity, this bank, that bank, next bank, next bank, next ridge, next ridge. And all of a sudden he’s saying, „You know something?

Or this person, „you“ or „I“ in this case, happens to say, „Want me. Want me. Want me,“ about one time too often, „Want me“ – and uh… then at the same time says „Well now so and so and so and so is wrong with you. And so and so and so and so ought to be.“ Because you still get something on the order of an outflow. You get disagreement with each other although you get a coincidence of beingness. They both start occupying the same space.

It… it’s just… it just goes way on out. Oh, I’m out here miles. That flow just went for miles and miles and miles.“ He’s not at the outermost limit of his own activity, because once… once upon a time he was pretty big and he still remembers it out there at that distance. He was big once. And he can still hit those ridges out there.

So this person… they become somewhat disagreeable to each other, and one of them may wake up one day to realize that he really isn’t wanted at all, at which moment this will break up an interpersonal relationship – whether it’s a marriage or whatever it is.

Well, here’s this tremendous mass of energy. What are you going to do? Be the complete idiot and… and… and uh… electric shock him or something and get this energy off? Well, there isn’t any energy manufactured in this MEST universe that compares to theta-manufactured energy. And by the way, when I… when I said, „Would you be idiotic an… and give him electric shock, something like that, I didn’t mean any aspersion against psychiatry. You understand that. I… I’m in complete propitiation against psychiatry and uh… uh… uh… in… I… I uh… I realize that uh… that our survival depends completely on getting the medical profession and psychiatry to agree with us. And we wouldn’t be able to survive unless we did that. And after the material we covered this afternoon, this demonstrates completely why we should go around seeking somebody to agree with us.

Well those are tractors – all up and down the line here.

All right. We get this velocity line way out there, and we find out this fellow’s got lots of energy on him. You’re not going to take it off artificially. The best way they do it between lives – here… you can, by the way, find facsimiles on that thing that are 74 trillion years old – MEST universe havingness. That’s… that’s been around for quite a while. And mind you, this fellow’s gone through electronic incidents. He’s gone through between-lives implants, he’s been… he’s been psychotherapized. He’s been stupidificated uh… in any bracket you could think of. And what do you know? The between-lives: All… all they do, you see, instead of trying to erase engrams – they didn’t know how to erase any engrams. They… that’s the wonderfullest gimmick you ever saw in your life: There’s… there’s… there’s a little… by the way, did you ever see these circular file card things where you lay off one file card at a time on a circle? Well, supposing each one of those file cards had a picture on it and were spinning toward you, and then spinning away from you. It would certainly look like you were being presented with all the scenery of your life, wouldn’t it? I mean, if there were scenes on this sort of thing, you’d see these scenes in front of you. And then they’d go away and then they’d recede. And you’d say automatically, „Why those things are all erased.“ If you were told that forcefully enough, and if those scenes were general enough, and if those things did look enough like the environment in which you had recently lived, you would say, „Well, yes, sir! That’s… just… just look at that stuff! I mean, that’s erasing all of my memory of this whole thing.“

Now how does this work in the animal kingdom? How does this work in the animal kingdom, where it comes to dog eat dog and so forth? All right, we have this little animal gallumping along and a big animal comes along and goes „Snoffle.“ Well, the big animal says „I want“ and the small animal hauls back furiously to keep from being had, and of course by that fallback says „I agree“ and gets et. You see what happens? He’s trying to haul back as in Figure 2 there, you see, and he actually finishes off and energizes the big animal’s tractor.

Now actually, there’s a gimmick like that, and on these pictures… oh, you could get a preclear to run this, he’d go half screwy. Every once in a while he gets a visio. By the way, you’ve got to know about this. I’m not telling you this stuff for sensationalism, although it’s very sensational, I suppose. Uh… uh… prefrontal lobotomies aren’t, you see. I mean, that’s common, that’s routine. But this stuff: Too sensational.

The big animal had an open-ended tractor there as in Figure 1, IX – „You will agree“ it says; „You will agree.“ Well, this is a pull; the small animal starts to disagree and then he energizes this big tractor here, and in he goes – kaboom!

Anyway, every once in a while you get your preclear with a stuck visio, and it isn’t a visio. And very often it’s a visio that happened to him, and all that sort of thing. I mean, that’s usually the case. But all of a sudden you… he’s got a visio and it’s a winter scene. And it doesn’t relate to anything he ever saw and he says, „I wonder if this is a past life of mine, or… or what this is?“ and you process him for a little while and he’s got this visio back again. And you process him for a little while and he’s got this visio back again. And it shows a big… it looks something like… well, it possibly looks uh… uh… who are those characters that had all the lithographs here on Earth? Currier and Ives, yeah. I’ll have to read up on Earth and get a little more accustomed.

And he gets the weirdest sensation. You ought to run this on a preclear, or run it on yourself some day; „the… the joy of being eaten.“ It is the weirdest, most perverted, amuse – uh… uh… uh it… it… it’s a… it is an emotion which is indescribable until you’ve really experienced it. „Oh, I’m being eaten. I’m serving my purpose, after all, in the MEST universe.“ More doggone rationalization, you see. And it just comes out of this weirdly here.

Anyway… anyway, Currier and Ives snow scene. He’ll be sick of it after a while. He’s stuck in a between-lives wipeout, and it’s one that fell this way and he can’t bring himself to believe that it wiped out because it connected up with some valuable snow scene memory in his last life. And when this thing came up, why it suddenly clicked past and he looked at it and he says „Oh gee. That sure reminds me of Bessy.“ Rroom! And he’s got it right there, and it’s in balance. Like a mock-up, you see?

So you wonder why yo… you wonder why animals insist on eating dead meat all the time. And they go around and they eat meat. Of course, they want the live animal and they get the dead one, and they get accustomed to eating carrion. And do you know that all across Earth here, nothing is eaten but carrion. There’s nothing but dead meat eaten, as far as meat is concerned.

The mock-up will often lock up when it strikes too close to a MEST universe actuality. If you’re having lots of trouble with some mock-up sometime, it might not be your preclear’s ability at all: It’s just you’ve insisted on mocking up his mother when you should have been mocking up something that had a pumpkin for a head, you see? I mean, he… he… he couldn’t handle this mock-up. And the reason he couldn’t is every time he starts to handle the mock-up, he begins to think it’s his own facsimile. And then he doesn’t know whether he’s handling the facsimile of mother or a mock-up of mother. And if he can’t make up his mind about those, you’ve locked him up in a maybe; when you’ve got him all messed up in this maybe, then of course he’s in an uncertainty and an uncertainty… and a state of uncertainty, an unbeingness are the same state. So he can’t handle the mock-up. Just make him sure that he turn that facsimile enough colors and enough idiocies in it or enough changes in it until he’s completely sure that it’s his facsimile… his own creation, pardon me. And that it is not a real universe facsimile.

Now the alligator has become very slow and very cautious about his havingness, so he buries it for a long time and lets it rot before he eats it. He wants to be sure it’s not going to go the other way on him.

All right, this… this stuff going by under his nose, clickety clickety clackety clickety clickety, and he’s in the between-lives area and he’s sitting there, and then all of a sudden the whole thing goes „Whirr“ and he sits over to the right of it. And he says, „What do you know? My life disappeared.“ And then it goes „Whirr“ and he’s sitting over to the left of it, and he says „What do you know? My life disappeared.“

Now that interchange, then, your animals run around and the animals that are running around saying „Want me. Want me. Have me. Have me. Have me“ and all that sort of thing, so you say „All right. I’ll have you.“ Crunch! They can actually, at that last instant, pull so hard back that they get the feeling like they’re agreeing like mad with being eaten. That’s very low tone scale – very, very low tone scale.

Well, you know, those between-lives implants are in and sometimes they… sometimes he’s been turned this way and sometimes he’s been whirred the other way, and sometimes they’ve been fed in that-a-way, because he didn’t care which end was up, you see?

That thing which desires to be eaten, then, is actually enMEST, because the fear and endocrine injections into the body of something that is trying to resist that hard under that kind of a delusion is pure poison. What you get’s enMEST, any way you look at it.

And these silly implants, he… he starts shifting, and he’ll suddenly get views of himself over here. And you’ll run into this when you start creating mock-ups with him, or something like that. He’ll occasionally sort of get an odd idea of views of himself, in clothes that he didn’t have any idea of at all. And you’ll say, „You’re out of your body“ and he’s looking at this thing and he isn’t sure what’s happening. Oh, it’s just very fascinating.

Now I hope you’ve seen that there is, actually, a happy solution to this. I hope you understand now that it isn’t all dark, that it’s a happy solution to it, that there actually are conditions there of uh… happy agreement whereby… whereby two animals uh… eating each other up uh… one agrees with the other – at least we have that.

It also tells you something else: Those pictures on that file card machine are usually within a half a century of the knockout. Somebody was around with a camera, folks. And that’s… that’s oh… he… then he conceives his life to be wiped out and he’s a new being. And it’s very astonishing. This guy claims he’s never had… he can’t remember anything about his past life and you strain and sweat over this thing. Do mock-ups of little spinning wheels like this and Llama prayer wheels and tie pictures on ‘em and do other things with it. And he’s liable to get a horrible feeling in his head suddenly and all of a sudden say, „I wonder what ever did happen to my classmate Joe.“

Now one of the reasons why you have to have a group before you can have interpersonal relations is here very self-evident. A group gets together and it has, or it wants, and it’ll do so simultaneously. And it’ll operate as a unit organism, practically, a group will. And it’ll be a very high-level agreement and there will be very good ARC and they’ll just get along just fine. Why? Because they don’t want each other.

And you say uh… „Oh, your university, huh?“

But therefore a group could only exist as long as there was no difference in castes in the group. You couldn’t have a lot of artificial castes in a group, like ranks and uh… there’s one thing you can say about the military services: some people are ranker than others.

„No, no – no this was uh… this is the good old space academy.“ And you say, „When was this?“

Now here… here you… you – the second you get a disparity and you get this introduction of rank, of course the group falls to pieces and its effectiveness goes to hell, because the admiral’s throat is being cut by the rear-admiral, and the rear-admiral’s rear is being cut by the captains, and so on, and they’re all jockeying around on an „I’ve got to have“ and „I’ve got to have“ is „You can’t have.“ And things get pretty enMESTy.

And he says, „Oh, I don’t know, compared to present time. I just happened to think of Joe, that’s all. He’s a good friend of mine. I wonder where Joe is.“

One of the favorite tricks for the MEST universe can be seen in a military service whereby they give somebody a tank and they say, „This is your tank.“

And you… E-Meter – and he starts thinking this over.

The fellow, „But I don’t want a tank.“

And he says, „Gee, you know that was over a million years ago!“

Well, he’s all right as long as he’s saying „I don’t want a tank“ but uh… let him say, let him say „Oh gee! They’re going to take my tank away from me!“ and yank! she’ll lose it right now.

He’s hit some sort of a between-lives wipeout in other words, and it’s wiped on – bong! And he’s got that life and this life then… incredibly enough, it will spark up a person’s memory, just snap, if you run one of these things.

Now, furthermore, they give him this, and then he’s got it – but they’ve got him. Anything they give him, they get him too. If he fails to accept anything from them and fails to pay any attention to anything, his career is just spectacular. Unless the Army of course is trying to get something done, or something I never heard of when I was in. But they depend on privates and sergeants and second lieutenants to get something done in wars. I mean, after all, that isn’t the purpose of a military organization to get anything done.

Well, what do you know? Even that kind of treatment, or even the kind of treatment of sitting him in the chair and… and just… by the way, there’s waves there, flows hit him when he’s in that position. He is swept into this place with flows. He is pinned down with flows. He’s gone away from there with flows. He’s shot back here again with flows.

Uh… but it’s very very remarkable how easily this works out. By the way, I found this out empirically: I uh – tell you very briefly – I reported in – Robert Montgomery was uh… on duty at the naval operating base down in uh… San Pedro, and I’d just gotten out of the hospital. They took me off the ship and hospitalized me, and then they let me out of the hospital. And I got out of the hospital and the ship had gone. And so they sent me over to the officer’s pool, and there was nobody over at the officer’s pool to amount to anything, and by this time they’d lost all their… all their navigators were at sea and things like that. And there were a lot of people around, but they came from the Department of Agriculture and uh… I simply checked in and went over to bachelor officer’s quarters and uh… unpacked my bag very carefully. Chose some good quarters by moving a couple of guys out, and unpacked my bag and went down to the library and I got a great big stack of novels, and I went back up and I sat down and I started to read novels.

It’s very interesting, I mean, the what… the way they use flows.

And the days went by, I was perfectly happy, I was reporting in to chow and so on. Everything was going along just beautifully. Until all of a sudden an orderly came over and he says „Sir,“ he said, „um, the Commanding Officer wants to see you immediately“, and so forth, and I said „Oh, I’ll be over.“

And not all of that! Not even things like… like hitting a fellow with mega… uh… volts and so on, wipe out these ridges! You’ll find all this stuff on these ridges. It’s fabulous! Every man is carrying a very complete history of himself with the things sufficiently messed up because of the agree“, and „have“ and „when I want I can’t have“ and „when I… when I can’t have I want“ and… and that sort of thing interplaying, blocking these things out. He… he’s got a complete history of himself. It’s a completely unimportant history of himself. You don’t care anything about that history of himself. It’s just his identity in the MEST universe, and it isn’t even very adventurous. And it’s… the sensation on it’s kind of poor.

I’d been at the war, by the way, about two years by this time and I really was bored with it. So anyhow, anyhow I’d go over about two or three hours later to report to the Commanding Officer, and he comes out. And boy, he’s fire and brimstone. „Your name has been on that bulletin board for three days. An officer is supposed to read that every morning at eight o’clock. Your name’s been up there because there’s a YMS out here and there’s nobody – to take it to San Pedro and somebody’s got to take it to San Pedro and there isn’t another officer around here to take this YMS down to San Pedro, and you’re supposed to take it down there. It’s lost its captain.“

There’s more… there’s better stuff earlier. But those ridges are sitting here. And those ridges are sitting out there five feet, and they’re sitting out there 30 feet, and on in. And his history of the MEST universe is sitting on top of these ridges. These big ridges are held up in front of him. He actually has something on this is… calling matrixes. You have a uh… there… there’s actually a network up here, and there’s the one type of facsimiles on one side of it and another type of facsimiles on the other side of the thing. The fellow’s built himself up a beautiful energy scheme. And here it sits. And nothing has wiped it out. Sometimes… sometimes somebody will blow one, or explode one or change the position of one, or cave in one of these ridges on the fellow, or… or something like that will happen. But the destruction as compared to the bulk of material present is minimal. Something like scratching a fender on your car. Nothing to it.

And I said „Ummm-hmmm.“ And uh… I said „I’ll go over and see about it tomorrow.“ „Oh,“ he said. „What… what’s the matter with you?“ And I said, „Well, Commander“ I says, „it’s been a long war.“ „Oh, see here now,“ he says. „You… you can’t quit like this.“

Well, what do you suppose? You don’t… you don’t think then that you’re suddenly going to get this preclear to postulate that he’s at 40.0 without going through the steps of him being able to handle energy, do you, and have him be clear and stay that way? No sir! Because until he can learn to handle force completely and utterly, he is unable to handle his ridges. And if, he could handle force completely and utterly, he could blow this whole shooting match. And then and there, and only then and there, would these things cease to have the effect upon him of command and necessity and demand thinking. Then his mind’s free.

That’s a verbatim conversation. I went down and saw the YMS, but I didn’t take it to San Diego, I decided that the executive officer could take it down to San Diego. Told him so and came back and reported. And I said „It’s on its way.“

We’re actually doing the same thing we were trying to do with BOOK ONE. We’re trying to wipe out this energy which has messages on it which gets enforced by physical pain. Only the physical pain, as it turns out to be an electronic type flow. We’re still trying to do the same thing – we just understand it better and it’s a lot fancier. And the process is a lot simpler. But the end goal on it is the same thing. And that’s: Let’s knock out every single cockeyed engram this guy’s got.

They gave me a job operating the nucleus crew training program, and I went out in the morning, and I’d go out in the little boat. And we had a… a radarscope fixed so that we could tell whether or not the nucleus crew was navigating the ship properly, and I sat down in the cabin and played cribbage with the captain. We looked at the radarscope and saw we didn’t run aground anyplace and I’d slop around. Then I’d call this small boat that I had standing on and off to see that… I’d call it aboard and I’d go ashore and have dinner.

You want experiences? The time to have experience is now, and will have – not did have. An experience that you DID HAVE is no good to you. Really isn’t even good data. You could probably sit down and figure out better data. What’s it appertain to? It appertains to you. So you dig up the past life experience. Now you need to know how to make iron in Upper Bavaria. That’s great. It’s just what you needed!

Very, very interesting. And they… they keep… every time they’d look for you, you weren’t there. But the main reason for this was, is you just didn’t care.

One preclear all of a sudden… he’s sitting on the chair, starts to go this way, I thought for heaven’s sake! And he said, „What do you know?“ „Gee,“ he said, „I spoke very good sign language, very good sign language“ – he was born in New York City. This guy… I don’t know how he ever wandered East again. I guess on the prevailing westerly winds. Uh… but he had spoke this uh… spoke an excellent sign language hack there about the middle of the eighteenth and the beginning of the nineteenth century. And he’d all of a sudden recovered his total bank of sign language. Now isn’t that fascinating? I mean, that’s JUST what he needed. A communications system that’s as dead as the leaves of yesterday. Oh, I guess it would be interesting. You could have Hopalong Cassidy, take three or four of the signs and do them in a movie, but uh… they’ve got a book on it. The book is wrong, but they’ve got a book on it.

I ran this into the ground – just ran it into the ground. There’s nobody could act like this in a military service. Nobody! Finally wound up with the Commanding Officer hysterically wiring Washington to get me put on duty at that base.

That’s very funny, by the way. The guy really did know sign language. And he was from the lower East Side New York. I know something about sign language. It was fascinating all of a sudden to see him waving his hands around and going through „may the sun shine brightly in your eyes“ and so on.

This is a… this is strictly a case history. I could give you thousands of them.

But anyhow, data – data is of very little good to you. You can pervade and approximate and get data faster than you can remember it. You want to know all about a machine? Just look at the machine and own it for a minute and you’ll be all through the machine suddenly, pervade it. And you all of a sudden say „All the working parts of the machine.“ Now you really want to inspect this machine and take it apart? Why worry about MEST? Go out here… you’ve got a mock-up of it? Now, take the mock-up apart and look it over.

But we’ve got this thing operating.

Isn’t that interesting? That’s the way that thing spells on the principle of hydrogenation. Must have been designed by the US uh… Forestry Service or something of the sort.

Now you go up there, you’re real eager; you want to get this war won; you’re going… you’re very enthusiastic, out-going and so forth, and you’d think that everybody’d start agreeing with you if you’d keep this outflow going, and enthusiasm, and you’re going to get this show on the road, and so forth.

Uh… that… that’s right. And uh… you know, a very little practice… a very small amount of practice, you could take practically any piece of machinery and without reading its label, once you know how to do this, you can tell people where and when it was manufactured. And if you’re real good you could tell them the name of the chief mechanic that built it. I mean, the data is there to that minute a detail.

Well, you’re running into a lot of people who may be wanting to get the show on the road, too, but there’s such a thing as rank and all that sort of thing, and everybody crashes, so everybody thinks everybody’s disagreeing with everybody else because there’s an outflow and it all by… wou… winds up and everybody gets sore.

Do you know that you can read a book that you know not the language of and never knew the language of simply by reading the meaning that the last person that read it put on it? Sounds silly, doesn’t it? But it’s true. You just don’t read the letters. Just read to the… just read to the depth of the energy deposit of the… by the way, what you mostly get is… is the disagreement the fellow had with the book.

Or you… you see how that would be?

Now those… those all sound… those all sound wild and incredible. You’ll be doing them one of these days. And… and you can… a lot of you can do them now, and… and you won’t think anything about it at all. It’ll be routine. But don’t try to tell anybody, and don’t let your preclear tell you at any moment, that all he has to do is simply rise to the high and beautiful plane of pure thought, without anything ever having any effect on him again in the line of energy. Bull!

Now theoretically, you could keep a heavy enough outflow flowing so that people would agree with you, and – ha! – what do you know? They’d then have you. You get people agreeing with you, they have you. And if they have you, then your time is just zong! You just get out of control of your own time.

He’s got to be able to handle that energy. Otherwise the energy can command him. And that’s the trick of this universe – is, you command the energy, or it commands you! If you want to command this universe, it is a universe of space and energy. And if you want to command it, you’ve got to be able to command space and energy.

So the spiral down is this spiral of Agreement-Disagreement – and that’s the shortening principle of the dwindling spiral of the MEST universe. That’s why these spirals get shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter. And that’s why a fellow’s space becomes less and less and less and less. Until he finally winds up here.

A universe of your own might also come down to a manufacture by space and energy. It might do that. Doesn’t have to, but if it did you’d certainly better know how to control space and energy. And if you made a universe of your own and you made it just in… just like… no energy in it, no space, you didn’t go by these things, or you had 88 dimensional space, or some darned fool thing, boy, you’d better know how to handle energy!

All right. Now what’s… what’s this… how do you reverse this game? Well, there’s two ways to reverse this game. One of them is you just go away and never have anything more to do with any thetan of any kind or character whatsoever, and you’ll get no ARC set-ups. Then you can have a good time sitting around doing mock-ups… and… and just skip the whole thing.

Some day somebody will show up and he’s got a new gimmick on the subject of energy, and he’ll take a look at this nice new universe you’ve got there and pick up the agreement level and he’ll say, „Well, here we go. I think that uh… yeah, I… I like this. I’ll have it.“

That’s really not a terribly bad solution. You don’t think it’s amusing to do mock-ups, perhaps right now, to the degree that it is amusing to do them; or just start games and stop them of your own creation, because you’ve had an unhappy experience as a little kid. That’s no – I mean, when you didn’t have any playmates.

And you say, „You know, there’s a funny thing, but back in the MEST universe we had a habit… system by which that person who had to have something always found it disagreeing with me“ – POW! Discourage him in it.

Believe me, don’t make that mistake. Playmates really aren’t necessary. But the little kid had a lot of other factors before he wanted a playmate. He’s already all messed up, and aloneness to him becomes something horrendous. And boy, is aloneness -

All right. Therefore, I hope you get this much more clearly on why energy stands as a… a barrier – the sinister barrier – between aberrated thought and being free to do anything you please with thought. Now it’s an easy barrier to cross – extremely easy to cross as long as you actually cross it. You can cross it in a mock-up. I mean, you get way up scale and you don’t realize you’ve gotten this far up scale and… and one night you’re walking home and you’re sort of – you… you haven’t any thought really on the subject of this universe. I mean, you’ve just been going along. Maybe at the same time you’ve been holding down a job or something of the sort, and going through routine motions, and you’ve just been carrying forward mock-ups and you’re just doing your job in processing, and maybe processing some people now and then. You say, „Well, now when I was a little boy I used to have a… I used to have a dog, and so on. I bet I could think of a much cuter dog than that,“ as you’re walking home. So you just mock up this dog. And all of a sudden this great big dog from – lives in the neighborhood – comes out, he goes „Brrrrrrrrr“ and your dog jumps on him and tears his throat out.

When aloneness is really felt and one suffers from aloneness, is he down the tone scale – oh, brother! That’s one thing that MEST has just simply got to do, and that’s to get together with more MEST. Aloneness.

You got two… you have two choices at that point. You either… you either just go out and by assist of mock-ups or something or other, why mock out of existence this… this particular uh… end of things that you’re fooling with, or you mock it into existence or something of this sort. And what’s the use of working? You just mock up a plant and put it all on automatic and then blow it up or something.

But this does not mean that that is THE solution; very far from it. You can… you see, if there was just energy and if there was just such a thing as positive and negative energy, all would be lost. Fortunately, that’s not the case. Mock-ups don’t even have to be built out of energy. They can simply be built out of an agreement that that’s the way it looks. You don’t have to have anything there for anybody to see to have a complete communication with mock-ups.

Uh… the… by the way, if you know… if you were to do that you’d be in a heck of a lot of trouble. Do you know that if you went out here on the marshes someplace and… and bought a piece of land and mocked up a plant, complete, and then blew it up, do you know that you’d be arrested for willful destruction of property? The motto of this universe is „We must have, and if we have, we’re going to keep right on having. And the more you have, the more we gotcha!“

You get a lot of preclears trying to do that who can’t yet handle energy and get through this universe. That becomes very interesting, because, what are they doing? What are they doing there? They’re just going to get a concept and they’re going to permit themselves to be completely machine- gunned from all sides continually with all this energy. And they’re content, then, to say, „Well, I’m above all this energy stuff.“ And it’s a funny thing; their concepts aren’t clear, because here they are, sitting in and dependent upon energy. And in order to get out of where they’re sitting and their dependency on energy, they’ve got to be able to handle energy so they can kick it in the teeth. And if they can’t handle force and energy, they can’t kick it away from them. So it’ll continue to trap them.

All right, your other choice is, of course, is uh… just to stop right there on the corner and manufacture a little space and put a pink cloud in the middle of it and sit down and think the whole thing over.

So, we look at the… we look at this game and we say, „Well now, who would possibly get along in this game and who wouldn’t get along in this game? Well, you can get a very high-level group of thetans. They can get together and they can set up teams and play chess and have a good time, make lots of space, lots of action, if they want to go in that direction. But there are entirely different things that can be done that are just as much fun, if not more so, than on the space-energy idea.

All right. The bridge must lead then across energy, and the abyss is the abyss of force. Now we talked about a bridge and about a chasm and the abyss; the mystics talk about the abyss and so on, through the past. And what is the abyss? What are you trying to bridge? Well, you’re trying to bridge very clearly, the necessity of energy. And you’re not going to do it by saying, „I don’t want anything to do with energy. And I’m going to deny myself a body. And I’m going to deny myself sensation. I’m going to not use this and I’m not going to do that. And I’m going to back off from this whole thing; and just to show this universe what’s happening and that I’m boss, I’m going to sit right here on these spikes. And I’m going to sit on these spikes and hold this arm in this position for 30 years – that’ll show them.“ And what do you know? 30 years later he’s still there. They prove that conclusively… when they sit on spikes for 30 years they prove that they can… they are still there at the end of 30 years. Well, it’s a good experiment, but it shouldn’t be carried out so often.

The space-energy idea is highly specialized, and of course, every time you crooked it into line with a positive-negative terminal of opposites, why of course you get „When you win, you’ve got to lose; when you lose, you’ve got to win.“ –

Now the fact of the case is, then, is that you… you have to, not necessarily partake of action or really even engage in action, but you’ve certainly got to be willing to handle action. You know, if you. were to make, just as an experiment – this is one you can reach because it’s an action postulate – if you were to just suddenly make the… the statement to yourself „I’m going to use this body for everything it’s possibly good for. I don’t care whether I wear it out or not, I’m going to get everything out of it that could be gotten out of it and I’m going to make it do everything a body can do and I’m going to use it with the wildest abandon possible. I’m going to feed it all the good food I can possibly do, I am going to engage in the most horrendous affairs that anybody ever engaged in since Don Juan, I am going to put this… this body in a car and drive it faster than it’s ever been driven before, I’m going to teach this body in order to do this and do that, and I’m going to rig it up with titles, and… and… and I’m going to do all these things with this body and there’s nothing going to stop me doing these things with this body“ – all of a sudden the darndest little surge will go through you. You’ve just consented to the first step on the road, and that is „to use it.“

And the more serious you take the game, the less chance there is of winning. The bottom of the tone scale is „Lose,“ and the top of it is „Win.“

Up to that time you may never have recognized… you may never have recognized one thing – that you’ve never used it. You’ve taken care of it.

This tells you it takes lots of space, and lots of unseriousness to win.

You know the fellow who spends all of his life trying to get a costume in which to play the part – about the time he gets the costume, gets buried, grimly enough. We spend all of our time getting dressed for the play and then no play. At first you’ve just got to have the object so that you can have the action. Then after that the object becomes the object.

These things called „universes“ are games. And really the most valuable thing that a thetan possesses is his spirit of play. His spirit of play is sensation of play, and is not just energy. It’s… it’s… it’s a tremendous sensation. A guy has… has practically lost it if he’s here on Earth at all. Spirit of Play. It’s tremendous: he’s depending on all sorts of the soggiest, low tone scale emotions imaginable in order to get any sensation. In substitute for what? Spirit of Play.

It’s an odd thing that in English – beautiful stuff, language – we have the word „object“ as meaning „goal.“ Yes sir. We also have the word „identity“ and we also have „identification,“ and it means exactly what it says: An identity is the bottom scale.

For instance, sex is… is… is – boy, that’s about eighth-rate as an emotion. It is just dull – incalculably dull compared to the rapidity, randomity and actual sensation of the Spirit of Play. It’s way up there. And uh… you couldn’t possibly think that anybody could be serious and win through this universe. The more serious they get – 1.5 is real serious – why, of course, the more serious they get the more they have to do things by flows, and the acre they have to agree and the more they have to follow the rules, and the more broken the piece becomes.

Now what, then is our… it just shows, demonstrates, that’s a little trick to demonstrate to people, that someone was very clever doing this and that avoids saying that we’ve been very clever in undoing the riddle. Because of course the word „identity“ means that, because what are we doing? We’re tracking agreement. And what is language? Language is the communications of agreements and disagreements, that’s all. Of course, that language sits together that way. Wouldn’t sit together otherwise. If there’s a single word in English now that does not mean what it’s not supposed to mean, why it’s because… it’s because something has been entered on an arbitrary reason, like transcendentialism or something of this sort. But even… even then the fellow had enough sense to have the name „Kant.“

And as you bail up out of it, you find out, all of a sudden, that the universe starts surrendering to a Spirit of Play, and that one of the Spirits of Play is „Let’s pretend.“ And „Let’s pretend“ is a very important thing, because of course it’s a pretense, and it couldn’t be anything else but pretend.

All right. In other words, you are essentially at the level you pick up a preclear, or the preclear is essentially energy. That’s a low level. But boy, he’s got to be that low level. And when you get him out of a body and you get his energy all developed and he’s all set and he’s roaring to go and he’s just… he’s practically a ball of fire, why what do you know? He’s going to have to be perfectly willing to use that energy in any department – willing to. It’s not necessary that he does, but he’s got to be willing to. He’s have to be able to use that energy to deliver somebody a zap, for instance. What you playfully used to do called a „nip.“ You take two energy beams and you slap them together just back of a guy’s ears. It kills him. It’s an easy way to break a thetan out, though.

And you go around worrying because uh… you go around… you see, all of these things have a MEST mockery. Anything theta can do, after it’s been corrupted by MEST, turns into a mockery. And… and you say – „The „let’s pretend or not take it serious“ must be bad.“ If you’re saying this, then you are probably looking at insincerity. A person has already taken it serious, and then has abandoned that. And so he kind of snipes and snarls and so forth, and he uh… uh… knocks to pieces the nomenclature of writing or motion picture making or something of the sort, and runs a lot of… of ss… sneers into it along the line. You know – Time magazine, New Yorker – just beneath contempt.

Now when we have… so… so… he… he should be willing to do that. Why? So he could reassure himself – not advising you to have anybody do this – but he’d have to do something along in that order; at least go down here and knock out a couple of big neon signs or something of this sort, or plug himself into the main power lines and short ‘em out. To do what? To show that all he has to do is change a postulate and he’ll keep right on going. Because he’s arduously learned that when he uses his energy he starts failing in this universe. Well, you see, you’ve got a new system. You can use all the energy you want to, all you have to do is run out an evil effect that you had from it or simply learn how to sidestep the backflash. You can either receive the backflash, or let the backflash go through you. You get so split-second in your timing that you can put out an energy beam and then its backflash doesn’t find anything there to go through – nice trick, see? This would be like firing a rifle and then not being there to get any recoil.

Uh… this sort of a… of a bored, uh… insincere uh… mockery and so forth. Well, you understand, it’s got to have something to mock before it can mock, and it doesn’t have anything. That should tell you immediately where they must sit on the tone scale. They don’t have anything, but there has to be something they can mock, or something they can be insincere about.

Or… or you simply change the postulate or make a mock-up or run it out right away, The guy simply… he… he… he knocks down the Edison Company sign and short-circuits the whole joint and blows all the main fuses in Philadelphia. Well, have him sit down and uh… run it out, you see. That’s what’s important.

So that means that somebody must have been sincere about this above an upper level. They might be up tone scale from the sincere guy or they might not be. That’s beside the point. But when you’re dealing in terms of insincerity and you get „mockery of sincerity,“ the guy’s already bought seriousness – and failed. A guy who does that one has already quit. And it is a form of apathy. „We’ve got to make fun of it because we can’t do it.“

And the… that’s… that’s just being able to handle energy on a snap bang basis. But you’ve got a method of doing it. Why did the handling of energy get you into trouble and how could energy, then, assume this much control and command over a person? And why did these flows and dispersals become so terribly important to him?

And it’s the sort of the… the… the snide, sharp cracks of the ball player who’s sitting over on the bench. He’s being very witty at the expense of the guys who have replaced him on the team. It’s bitter. And there’s nothing more serious than that kind of bitterness.

Well, the reason they did is because they kept heading him down scale. And he finally got into the bracket where energy meant nothing else but these diagrams which you had this afternoon – last few lectures.

All right, so where do you go up tone scale from this? You get up into the band of – where? „Let’s pretend.“ Well now, you say, „That’s kid stuff.“ Yeah. Ummm. And boy, do they knock it out of the kid in a hurry. „Now look, Johnny, it’s all very well for you…“ Or use it on him – oh, I’ve… I’ve seen this happen to some poor kids: „Now, Johnny, you know very well that Hopalong Cassidy would have eaten his cereal.“ And uh… the poor kid gets roped in these days. They’ve set up all sorts of mock-ups for the kid to buy, instead of the kid fixing up mock-ups. Well, of course, that’s about the fastest thing you could do to a kid. If you want to put him up at the top of the chute and really shove him to the bottom, give him some beautiful, engraved, pure lead pistols. Hmm-umm. You’ve given him a MEST object, and corroded it with an illusion. There it sits in his hand. Oh, he’s much better off with his thumb and forefinger. But the truth be told, it’s a much more important and interesting game to simply mock up the weapon.

Now it… it said simply and positively that every one of those diagrams made the handling of flow as the complete modus operandi of existence about the most horrible thing that you could do – just terrible. But you have a new way of handling it.

And if you’re going to deal with energy, have it shoot. What… what’s the kid doing with a hand? Let him make a weapon of his own design and blow the hell out of Johnny.

As a matter of fact, if you want people to agree with you, outflow at them. It’s very simple, just outflow good and hard. And if this fellow doesn’t agree and you’ve blown up in his face, so to speak, uh… I mean you… you… you’ve got… you’ve got this fellow and he… he hasn’t agreed with you and you’re going to sell him this piece of property, you’re going to reduce his survival by making him acquire something, why just… just start giving him hell, that’s all. And just give him some more and give him some more, and he gets all ready to fight; then start making noises like you’re exploding – anything like that – and the first thing you know he’ll say, yes, he’ll do it – providing you’ve got enough strength, of course – of course.

„Let’s pretend“: when a man loses his Spirit of Play, he’s dead. That means that guys start dying at about 3.0. And sure enough, 3.0 down a guy will tell you, „Well, I had some illusions when I was a kid, but I’ve lost all of those. I’m practical now. We’ve got to face this thing practically, and what we’re doing here is very serious, and the reason I work hard at the office every night and work until ten or eleven o’clock is I have to keep those Cadillacs going. And uh… help keep the Cadillacs going because of the social position of the wife, you know. And uh… it’s terribly important, and so forth, and keeping the big house going, and that sort of thing.“ Some night he goes home and she’s run away with the chauffeur. This uh… and he says my heart is broken and all is lost.“

Now of course, if you want somebody to want, you keep walking away. Just keep walking in the opposite direction and you can get somebody all balled up on this one – terrible. I mean, it’s horrible the ease with which you can use those flows and monitor interpersonal relationships.

Why? Why does he say this? Isn’t that… isn’t that fascinating. He’s got a MEST object which he kept giving things to until he had it enMESTed thoroughly, then he wondered why it went down tone scale so it didn’t have any morals and no responsibility. He introduced the factor of automaticity to such a degree that nothing could exist, except matter. And then he wonders why the boy has trouble at college. „What’s all this? Yeah. The gods have afflicted me“ he says, as he stuffs another spoonful of decayed whale down his gullet.

But that’s a monitor from a „let’s pretend“ basis. It couldn’t possibly be serious to you if you were doing anything like that. You wouldn’t be doing anything to anybody to louse them up, really, if you were at that band. You might amuse yourself or amuse your friends or amuse them. There wouldn’t be very much viciousness in it.

You want to know what’s wrong with your preclear? Well, your preclear is too serious. You want to know what seriousness is? Seriousness is solidity. You ever hear of a „solid citizen“? You want to get something done, don’t get any of these serious boys. Shoot them on sight – or process them. But if you want to get something done, don’t have anything to do with them.

Now what… what are we trying to… what are we trying to get, then? We’re really only trying to get this bank… this bank that goes out to darn near infinity, which has more engrams on it than you could possibly count. You could sit down for the next 50 years and just count them, one by one, as fast as you could count and you wouldn’t be able to count all of the facsimiles on these ridges – much less run them out.

There’s nothing succeeds like insouciance. Plain flippancy will actually get more done in less time than anything else you can name. That’s a funny thing, isn’t it? It’s not serious; the guy’s flippant. The guy says, „Oh…“ It’s something like… There’s there’s more battles have been won for some general by some sergeant, or something of the sort, that said, „Well…“ Oh, by the way, one of the ways that Tamerlane really made a reputation was knocking in Hashshashin’s headquarters. Timourilang, the Iron Man, the Great Limpur – oh boy! He was good and serious. He had a sense of humor, though. You know this uh… this uh… old uh…old thing about the guy with the gold uh… Midas? You know, he couldn’t eat his gold, and he… that goes around a lot. He evidently, possibly, initiated that. I think it was in Cairo, and uh…he heard that the sultan there was very, very wealthy and when he got to the gates of Cairo, why there was no army, and he went in and he couldn’t understand this. He said, „What the devil? You’ve got all that gold and you can’t buy yourself any protection? Well, we’re going to be good to you.“ So he shut the guy in the tower with nothing to eat but his bags of gold. I think the legend more or less originated there. He had his flippant moments too, but kind of grim.

We were interested before in making the best homo sapiens that we possibly could make. Okay, we’ve one goal; that’s attainable, that can be achieved. Gets up to about 4.0 or 5.0 – that’s all. You can do that by running out the most horrible things with overt acts and motivators and so on – even by old-time engrams.

They used to make pyramids of… the Khan, Genghis Khan used to make pyramids of skulls. Fascinating.

What are you going to do now? You got another goal. You’re trying to make the clearest thetan you possibly can make, so you’re dealing with a new subject through a new goal to a new thought level. And THAT one leads up through not becoming a well-mannered, if somewhat indifferent uh… able to handle what comes up, not lose one’s head in emergency, be skilled at what one is doing, homo sapiens.

Uh… his idea of flippancy was just a trifle grim. For instance, one time 35,000 soldiers surrended to him and laid down their weapons and so forth, so he put them in the center of his camp and at twelve midnight had his troops slaughter them. He accepted their surrender because he would never take a man who was not taken without arms in his hands.

This requires a… a perfect – I mean, thi… this… this guy… this guy is… that you’re trying to make and get up tone scale up here, he… he’s got to be a killer. He has got to be able to handle unlimited force. And don’t think for a moment that you’re ever going to escape it. If he can handle unlimited force… you see what’s the matter out there, and you get out here to… to ring 99 thousand, you actually have… in Man you have a miniature of a complex electron. And in those ridges and so forth, you might as well call the thetan himself the proton and those other things out there you might as well call them electron-neutron orbits. And sure enough, an electron orbit and so forth looks just about like a ridge.

He would have nothing to do with a man who was not taken… not fighting. A guy could only expect mercy at the hands of the Khan if he had about ten of the Khan’s best troops dead in their tracks at his feet.

You see, an… an electron orbit isn’t a little… a little thing in pink pants or something that is racing around like… racing around this proton the way they’d like to have you believe in the elementary physics textbook. They change their minds by the time they get up to the advanced physics textbook, and then they change their mind again when they get up to… at really advanced physics, super advanced physics. And then when you get into elementary nuclear phenomena, boy they’ve changed their mind so many times, nobody knows what the heck cooks. And after you’ve been on a project for a while and you’ve really had to work with it, the best thing you can figure out probably is, it probably looks like an onion.

Now he had a code he ran on, pretty down scale and all that sort of thing, but it was there. Well, he got a big reputation one time that he didn’t deserve really at all. He kicked in this stronghold, he heard this stronghold existed, his troops were just tremendous. Those little guys were just fascinating to look at. Anyway, he… he uh… took this citadel, and this citadel – Hashshashin had more or less controlled a large section of Asia at one time or another – it was more or less in decadence. And one man was responsible for taking it.

Now you… you… you have an embryonic – uh… not embryonic, but you have it in a pattern form. You… you don’t really have a solar system, that is to say, a sun and a whole bunch of planets flowing around the sun any more than you have that in nuclear physics. It… it’s a… it’s more like an asteroid belt. Uh… if you could figure a solid asteroid belt at every planetary belt, you’re beginning to get in somewhere close to it; and then if Earth had… had these solid belts that went out as far as… as Arcturus, you’d get some kind of an idea – uh… light… many light-years away… you’d get some kind of an idea of what… what complexity you have here in operation.

They had a rank called Kha Khan. Kha Khan was like a medal. It ten times forgave a person the death penalty. He could ten times incur the death penalty and uh… not get it, if he became a Kha Khan. Well, this kid became a Kha Khan. But he, by his lonesome, scaled this tremendous citadel which had stood for hundreds of years completely impregnable to everything, and kicked open the front gate. He went up a sheer mountain cliff and went over sheer towers and battlements and down into the midst of the enemy, and went in and opened the gate and took the castle. One guy.

Now although apparently these rings are responsible for the production of energy, the gimmick is that they’re not. What’s responsible for the production of energy is not an interlocking flow from this; it’s strictly ‘a postulate. You say, „Let there be light“ – WHAP!

What do you think his idea of insouciance was? Everybody knew you couldn’t possibly do anything like that to that much MEST. It had stood for all these centuries and it fell to one man.

Now you can build all this complex structure. It’s something like an engineer would sit down and he would build a little gimmick that was to do everything that was to be done with this particular machine. And he’d build this little tiny gimmick and all you had to do with this gimmick was simply… simply connect it and it would do everything. And then he sits down and he says, „Now let me see…“ and he starts building tubes and wires and modulators to unmodulate what he has just modulated, and condensers to uncondense what he has just condensed, and uh… rectifiers and uh… uh… all sorts of… of uh… inducers and transducers and persperators and… and he keeps adding these things on to his circuit and adding them on to his circuit and adding them on to his circuit. Until he’s… one day – by the way, did you ever see a Wright Whirlwind engine? That… that’s really a gorgeous engine. It… it puts jets in to furnish heat, and then it’s got veins to take the heat away in the slipstream. And it… it just works on that principle: You… you work like heck to make all this heat, and then you work like heck to cool it all down. And then you’ve got parts that go on beyond that basis, and they heat up and they cool down, and they heat up and they cool down. When you finally get through you have a very wonderful aircraft engine, as far as MEST engines go. But it… it looks very silly. It looks like the piece of mechanical buffoonery they have in bathrooms and call flushboxes. Did you ever try to fix one of those things?

Look down the line at the spirit of the men of great or murderous deeds, even here in the decadence of action on Earth, and you’ll find out they are strange boys, very strange fellows. They just kinda never kinda nailed down in the right places and did just exactly the right things. You looked in vain for the old school tie; you… you looked in vain for this or that. Like… like an ecstatic young ensign I saw once uh… standing on a dock, ordering destroyers to load up gas drums and freight them across to an island to make a refueling depot. He didn’t have any authority, the captain of the destroyer didn’t have any authority. Nobody owned the gas drums. They had just more or less come by those, and so forth. And th… this level of action is actually the kind of action that makes things happen in this universe. The second somebody makes something happen like that, into his tracks and into the vacuum moves conservatism.

But it’s wonderful: There’s little rods that push up levers so that other levers will close and so on. And they came along with a jet engine and this jet engine has still got more on it than a jet engine should have. But it’s getting simpler and simpler and simpler. They just get in – every once in a while some engineer gets a brand-new idea; this idea mainly consists of suddenly jumping on to this engine and tearing out a whole bunch of parts and throwing ‘em away and then hooking everything in straight. And he stands back real proudly and actually he has made a considerable advance in the engine. Until the next engineer comes along and he’s going to make a big advance in this engine, and he tears off a whole flock more parts and he throws those things away, and the thing flies better.

There was a great old fellow in China named Huang the Innovator, and Huang the Innovator practically turned China upside-down and right-side-up again and then upside-down and left it that way. But he organized a lot of systems; he organized a system of agriculture, he also organized the Ja… the Chinese civil uh…service which we use in this country. Uh… we don’t use Chinese in this country, but uh… we use the same system.

And then one day, one day, somebody comes along and he tears all the cylinders off and he tears all the cooling systems off and he tears the gas tanks out and he tears everything out on the whole thing and he says, „Well, let’s see. Let’s put this propeller up out here. Okay. We’ve got this propeller.“ I’ll be a son of a gun if it doesn’t run like mad. That would be a postulate at work.

Anyway, he invented that system, and uh… this guy was… he laid down the laws that are going to be this way and that way and the other way; and he laid them all down very nicely, and he had them all patterned out beautifully. But he himself didn’t kind of follow that. He was a wild man! He was a wild man. Nobody could ride up alongside of him. He had more women than he could count. Uh… and his whole principle was „The world has… has got to be in good shape“ and that sort of thing. Boy, he accomplished it in all directions.

Actually – well, there isn’t any reason why you couldn’t do that. It… it reduces down to that. The more MEST you hang on something, the more MEST you’ve got to hang on something in order undo what some of the MEST is doing. And it can really get complicated after a while.

And he actually laid down the spirit of innovation. And he said that without the progress, without change – and so on. He said all these things and he explained it all, these things and everybody said „Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, yes Huang. Yes Huang. Yeah – yeah – yeah.“ And then the old guy died and poom! In moved Chinese conservatism and there hasn’t been a stick altered in those things that he set up. I mean, it’s really rigid.

Well, a fellow’s ridges have gotten into that shape. He’s got pluses that cancel minuses and he’s got this’s that cancel thats’s. And the final result is, he is so solid that he does not produce energy anymore. Because the way you produce energy is, you take this propeller off the hub and you throw the hub away and the plane really starts flying. And he merely says, „Let there be light.“ – Bang!

He set up a static China’s never gotten off of. I was just giving you a look there. But he wasn’t serious and they were. And where’s China? It’s been „et.“ I trust that they found it very indigestible.

That sounds odd to you, and if it wasn’t for this silly system of „We’ve got to plant. it so that we can perceive it,“ it wouldn’t be possible because, you see, all the time it isn’t there. But it sure looks like it’s there when you’re down at one end of the tone scale and something comes along and guns one of these ridges into an explosion. You suddenly get this creepy feeling that such and so is about to happen.

Everybody who has desired China, by the way, has always ultimately found it awfully indigestible. Here we have these same laws at work.

Well, there’s wave lengths on those ridges that homo sapiens is too low on the tone scale to touch. And therefore he’s got to be way up tone scale in terms of energy; he’s got to go way up tone scale, way up, in terms of energy to run out the high-level ridges.

Now uh… how does this all apply on the level of processing? I’d hate to think that your goal was to get your preclear serious about his sanity. He… you would never accomplish your goal, then. Never get him serious about his sanity. He’s had seriousness piled at him until you can actually just trigger a line charge by explaining everything to him in a careful tone of voice about how serious he’s got to be about this. You could just explain it to him, sit and explain it to him carefully, that you don’t want any laughter. You don’t want him to take these things lightly, you see. You just keep piling it on him in this wise. He’s getting a type of selected flow he didn’t know existed before, and that alone will free him somewhat.

The reason why your childhood lies forgotten is this: It has a faster speed than adulthood, and you don’t pick up the same waves – it’s going too fast. If you just would readjust and just run for a minute just as fast as a child and say, „I’ll feel like a child.“ Zing-zing! More scenes would click through about your childhood than you could count. That’s why childhood blanks out; that’s why the whole track blanks out. And that’s why you have come WAY up scale in the ability to handle energy to clean up all those ridges, and be in to a position where you can really get down to work using postulates or using energy.

You can get some preclear, talk to him that way and he’ll start line charging. He’ll… he can… you can get a guy line charging for hours and hours and hours on that kind of a treatment, that’s all. Just get frantic to make him serious. You’re just piling on that kind of a flow at that particular wave length and wave pattern, and the guy just won’t stick with it, that’s all.

You’ve found out all there is to know about energy. Actually you’ve come to the last port of call on the subject of energy. Now you’ve got to track back. It’s like a game, parchesi or something of the sort.

Now an individual who has lost an inability to differentiate amongst waves, types of waves and intentions – in other words practically anybody from four on down – has run into this upset about flows. So you could… you could shift on such a person, „All right now let’s run the flow Agree – Agree. Now run Have to Have – Have to Have. Now let’s run the Beauty of Having to Have – Agree.“ He runs them all the same, and with the consequent idiocies which you see in those charts.

Let’s take a break.

And you can run those for an awful long time because if you let things inflow on him too hard and too long and that sort of thing, why if you’re not pretty expert, you’ll get things collapsing on him and he’ll get more and more solid.

So what do you want to do? You want to permit him to occupy more space, and you want his thoughts and incidents and that sort of thing to occupy more space. So w… what do you do? You approximate flows, dispersals and ridges with mock-ups, which have lots of space. And every time you make him do a mock-up, you just give him some better anchor points. Give him more space to put it in, and move it in more space. And give him more space and more space and more space until all of a sudden he says, „Why am I worrying about the fact that Earth occupies this… its own space which is coincident here? I’ve got a lot more space, and I can put things out a lot further than that.“ We can do this in a big way and it becomes interesting to him.

You see that… that – another trick of this universe is, the test of reality is SOLIDITY! Naaaa! Anything nebulous isn’t real. The only real thing there is, is an idea. There isn’t anything more real than an idea. Nebulous? It doesn’t exist in space and it doesn’t have any energy connected with it.

So you see how far around your preclear has gotten twisted, on what’s real? Give him more space.

Now, I’ll give you uh… a very brief statement here, of the process connected with this. The test of how much space a preclear has: have him put a toothpick out in front of him, a mock-up, and have him move it an inch away. See if he can do that well. Now have him take that toothpick and move it about four inches closer to him – the mock-up of it, you know. And then have him take this toothpick and move it about ten inches away from him; and then two feet away; and then much closer to him. And then much further from him. And then change the toothpick into something like a lead pencil of his own creation. And move it close to him and away from him and so on. And then change that into such objects as trees, walls, solid objects. And have them move close to him and move away from him. And each time, be awfully careful with this process, that you get a proper gradient scale. And move that item in time, that is to say, „had it yesterday, will have it tomorrow.“ And change its location.

But most of these should be played, for current lifetimes, straight in front of the preclear; and should be played around to the sides of him to get orientation points of earlier lives.

And what will you find? You’ll find your preclear that’s worst off can’t even anywhere vaguely hold a toothpick out in front of him. It comes in and smacks him one.

Why? Too many MEST universe objects have too convincingly tried to occupy the same space as he was occupying. At 40 miles an hour he has hit a tree. He was trying to occupy the space and the MEST universe object tried to occupy the space and he came off second-best. And this has happened to him and happened to him.

Now we’ve got fast transportation here in this country. As you go forward you see the scenery flowing in toward you, flowing in toward you. It’ll kick into restimulation all of those space occupation incidents. It seems to tell you everything is moving into your space. Everything is moving into your space. And you get that flow-in and flow-in and flow-in and flow-in and flow-in, and flow-in. And of course, it’s an elasticity of flow. It’s over-reached itself and so it’ll pack into the space in front of the preclear.

There isn’t any reason why he shouldn’t be running the nearest facsimile to him five miles in front of him. Get that! There’s no reason why he ought to be running a facsimile an inch or two inches in front of his face. Boy, he’s bad off. He’s real bad off if he’s running a facsimile so that he’s in immediate perception of it. It ought to be out there about five miles.

The reason your individual keeps popping back into his head, the reason why he can’t get out of his head, this whole deal about amount of space available to the preclear; how much space can he own, how much space can he be in?

Your first condition: he is a point in space and he can occupy the space he has. Your next condition is, of course, he’s just backed up and dispersing a little bit because something else is trying to occupy his space.

And your condition below that, and the worst of the conditions, is that he’s dispersed all over the place. He’s trying to occupy his space. That’s not dispersal because of an explosion; that’s because he’s been moved too often in too many spaces, and too many things have tried to occupy his space.

Solid objects have tried to occupy the same space he was trying to occupy. He’s ridden a… he’s ridden a… a… a dish – a flying uh… saucer or something of this sort. He’s ridden that thing into a glacier or a… or into a brick wall or into the side of a dark star. And brother, that thing really tried to occupy the space he was occupying. And it was trying to occupy it, and he hit something at a couple of light years’ speed, sometime. If you don’t think it’s really a sudden occupation of space… It’s shocking. It makes impacts, it makes ridges. A fellow gets convinced after a while that there’s… a solid ridge is still in front of him. He’s just hung up in an old incident where something tried to occupy his space.

And the way you solve this is to run flows in toward him and flows away from him. And if you start running flows in toward him, flows of water, flows of ink, invisible flows, flows of blackness, ribbons, anything that moves in toward him. Just move them in toward him and move them away from him; in toward him, and away from him. And let him run flows against his sides, run flows this way. Mock up a body for him way out in front of him and let the flows run at that body. He’ll do that safely enough.

You’ll find strange things. If you rig up a river, usually there insists on being driftwood in it. Oh, just run it.

And you get then… you take the tension out of those things which have tried to occupy his space.

Now there’s a fluidity, a flow, which stacks a person’s space up. Everything has moved in on this guy. A paranoid is one on whom everything is impinged. There isn’t any, really, such thing as a paranoid. There’s such a thing as collapsed space.

Now there’s the other reverse case, and this person has really got a special case, and that’s – he’s sitting in the middle of one explosion or he’s had a whole chain of explosions and he’s dispersing all over the place. Anything he tries to get close to him will just fly away. Kaboom! He can’t get any solidity up close to him at all. He gets thin.

There’s a big joke on the „suck-chiatrists“: most of their paranoids are dispersal cases that don’t have things up against them at all. Big joke, isn’t it? They aren’t classical paranoids at all. They aren’t being smashed up against, but they’re trying to hold on to keep something from going away.

And some of your „flow“ boys that get things are flowing in madly on to them and so forth, no, they’re keeping actually, actively, continually keeping this flow going in on themselves. Why? Because that’s one way of holding on! They’ve been in the middle of an explosion sometime and they know darn well that if they reverse this process and suddenly stopped letting everything come in on them, that the whole universe would fly away from them and they’d never be able to attain it again.

Now one of the things that occupies space and one of the operations by which space is occupied, is by falling. One is in space and he falls and he hits a planet or something. You know, you fall out of a second-story window and you hit Earth, you fall and you hit a planet. It suddenly starts to occupy the space that…

Do you know that a person’s concept who has fallen too often has dropped many inches. A person’s concept of himself, in terms of mass. But in terms of space occupation has raised many inches. In other words, he’s hit and this has jarred his existing mass down, but because something has tried to occupy where he was, he has backed off.

Now his first action as he sees that planet come along is to do what he would do in his own universe, which is suddenly pick that planet up and chuck it the hell out of the road. And he fails… and he fails to do it. That’s why you can’t run these falling engrams worth a nickel on individuals. He just flops when he tries to do this.

And so you’ve got the stuck visio. Well that visio is, you’re trying to move the object. Let him create mock-ups in trying to move objects and you will solve this idea.

Now you get mock-ups out in front of him, mock-ups out to the side. You’ll find out in past lives he wasn’t facing the direction he’s facing now. He was facing some other direction. So you have to run these things in a 360-degree sphere around him: up from the bottom, down from the top. You’ll find falling incidents hitting him from above him and things like that. I mean, he isn’t in orientation with… just regard to where he is.

So you do mock-ups to solve this business of too much space crowding up on him and trying to hold the space and objects from flying out away from him.

And your thinnest guys, the real thin guys, the… the this… this… there’s a typical paranoid. I mean, he’s… he, he’s a strange looking boy – typical. He’s a type. You run into him time after time. He’s holding on like mad and he knows he can’t hold on to anything because it’s all flying away anyhow. And boy he holds on to everything.

And your other fellow is trying to push things off of him all the time and he can’t push things off of him because they’re going to move in on him willy-nilly.

If you want to… want to just give a preclear a good run sometime, let him ride backwards in an automobile. One preclear will do all right riding backwards in the automobile, another preclear will do all right riding frontwards in the automobile. Depending on the preclear, that will be the therapy. You can actually let him sit and watch the MEST flow away from him and get a big relief. Or you can let him sit and watch the MEST flow into him and he’ll get a big relief. But just do the opposite: the guy that too many things are flowing in on, let’s make him face forward. „Oh, no!“ He gets nervous. He gets upset about his driving. And the fellow who has things flowing away from him, if we let him ride backwards, he gets sick at his stomach.

All right, so let’s place things to him, and place things away from him and solve by creative processing, mock-ups, this whole situation of contracted space, and you’ll find that you’ll be able to take your psychotic – instead of getting jump-jump-jump every few days, you’ll be able to get it, with creative processing, jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump-jump.

And that’s the way your case ought to go, and anytime when your case is slowing down on you and it isn’t doing that, it’s because you’re not resolving the problem of space and you’re not getting particles further apart for this guy. And therefore you won’t be solving the case.

Now I hope you know the primary requisite of creative processing: assist him to do what he’s trying to do so he won’t give a damn after a while whether he’s doing it or not, and he’ll get well. And that’s in terms of objects in space. Let him handle them. And that is the… actually the rock- bottom principle of creative processing. Thank you. I’ll see you at eight.