Okay. And this is the afternoon lecture of January the 14th. And this afternoon, I would like to talk to you about some more beingness and its application in terms of communication.

You, after a while, are going to find out that there are only certain essentials that we’re talking about and these essentials actually are Knowingness, Beingness, Lookingness, Emotingness, Effortingness, Thinkingness, Symbolizingness and Eatingness and Sexingness.

Psychology has contributed only one thing - that human beings are not mice. The GE is an animal that has been brought up in spite of itself by a thetan.

Now, I’m real smart. I can list those off very rapidly, but not because I wrote them down and took a look at them, because all I do is just run the span, just run the span and name its parts.

Areas where food is short replace eating with hunger. For one "goofy" on the subject of sex, have him find places where he can't survive, because the decision he can't survive is concurrent with his decision he can't create. One who has decided he can't survive usually goes into the hectic application of sex.

Now, I could go at it this way: no solidity, total ability, total potential, pervasion, looking to find out what one isn’t pervading, down to emoting to prevent pervasion or to assist it, down to solidification so that you’ll have something to pervade, down to thinking about it in case we don’t have something to pervade. And then going down into condensed thinkingness and then thinking, which is symbolizations. And then we get that something to pervade with an idea in it, in other words, a live animal or something of this sort and we go immediately from there into appetite. And when we go from there into appetite, why, we seek further than that and we find out when there isn’t enough food, why, people indulge in sex.

(Add to the "applause scale" in Martha Courtis's book: Eating and Sex)

Female voice: Hm?

Actually, ridicule, betrayal, etc. are all attention. The most awful thing you can do to anybody is to ignore them.

That’s absolutely correct. Your overpopulated areas of the world are those areas where there wasn’t originally enough food.

Knowingness and Beingness are two different kinds of operation. They're easy to confuse. Beingness and Awareness cross with Knowingness, but they're not. Beingness is the first tiny enterance into energy - and knowingness is not. It's part of the dwindling spiral.

Now you can take a family of mice-you know, once, psychology has contributed something. Never let it be thought that psychology is a dead loss. It is not a dead loss, it has contributed something. It has demonstrated that human beings are not mice, [laughter]

A preclear even has some enjoyment out of being bored. Below that, at antagonism, they can't enjoy anything.

But just in terms of any of the animal kingdom—this includes giraffes and human beings and any kind of animal. A GE is essentially an animal. He is an animal that’s been brought up, in spite of itself, by a thetan.

Beingness conforms to .5 on the Tone Scale: he looks up at the rest of the Scale, and evaluates Enthusiasm as grief expressed too loudly, and knowing all things to cry about.

Now, as we look over this situation, all we’ve got to do is shorten up certain essentials out of the food supply and they become very, very hectic about reproducing. Fascinating, isn’t it? Well, it shouldn’t be so fascinating. It should be very obvious to you that if you can’t eat with this body, you better fix it up to have another one you can eat with and hope times will be better. You see that? I mean, the guy can slide along the track, then, to another period. It’s very simple.

The less efficient a police organization is, the more it dabbles with identities. It gets to the level where all it's interested in is using the identities to collect taxes. If you go into a police station today to report a robbery, you'll probably be sorry you ever closed terminals with the police.

The first impulse towards sex actually begins with the individual at the moment he decides that he can’t survive. That’s the other test. That works as a technique. When you’ve got somebody who is pretty goofy on the subject of sex, well, you just find out places where he isn’t deciding he can’t survive or almost any kind of a technique you want to tailor up on the spur of the moment, which simply runs out and puts into his power the decision that he can’t survive.

Putting tickets on the windshield of a car is illegal, according to our own Consititution, which requires personal service. Police get away with it because people don't want the bother of going down and getting a trial date set; so they send in the amount of an arbitrary fine. This is duress and extortion - so there's no difference between a criminal and a cop.

Now, the decision he can’t survive is almost concurrent with the decision that he can’t create and they’re almost-they’re together. So that “can’t survive” comes first and “can’t create” comes afterwards. Or “can’t create” comes first and “can’t survive” comes afterwards. It mainly depends on what subject he can’t survive on or what thing he can’t create, but the two come very close together.

As beingness runs down, justice runs out. You'll find a preclear as low on the Tone Scale as he cannot enforce justice.

So you see that somebody who has decided he can’t survive will go into hectic sexual activity, quite ordinarily, in order to survive in the next generation. We’re only talking now about animals, by the way. Don’t make it an overall end of everything, because we’ve got sex sitting down there below eatingness.

Technique: Have the preclear name some things he can do to others; name some things he can't do to others; name some things others can do to him; name some things others can't do to him. This may demonstrate to him that anybody can do anything to him, and he'd be powerless to prevent it - especially if he's dead.

When we talk about eatingness, we’re talking about the whole Applause Scale, really. And when we say eatingness and sex, we’re just making a highly specialized application of the Applause and Attention Scales, that’s all. Attention is valuable, there are scarcities of that and applause is a substitute for attention and so on.

Have him mock himself up where anybody can communicate with him; then mock himself up where nobody can communicate with him unless he wants them to.

Well anyway, let’s look this over and we find out that when you get applause supercondensed, you get Mr. Tiger-1 like this picture because it sort of punches it up one way or the other. I got hold of this mock-up some time ago and I’ve been fond of it ever since, I don’t know why. And I suppose there is no significance, which is what makes it significant.

But anyway, we get the idea of this tiger going through the woods and this monkey pelting a couple of old dead twigs at him and so forth. And the tiger, he doesn’t mind that. He kind of snarls back and so forth and it makes a nice randomity. But then the monkey refuses to pay him any attention that is of an admiring or flattering kind. So having refused to pay him any attention of an admiring or flattering kind, Mr. Tiger decides that he is going to get some attention from this monkey anyhow, so he eats him.

Now, if the monkey had simply applauded sufficiently, the tiger never would have eaten him. And if it hadn’t been for the fact that monkeys stopped applauding very early on the track, then tigers would not now be eating monkeys. But monkeys did stop applauding. They got stuck on the ridicule band and they stopped applauding and they insisted there was nothing to applaud. In other words, there was no good attention.

..did locational drills. And just did a tremendous number of locational drills, and did goals on the person. And then did the grand tour.

Now, that is simply defined as good attention. Actually, ridicule or betrayal or anything else is attention. And you’ll find some character who’s real bad off-they’ll chatter straight out of their fundamental bank. They’ll tell you-they’ll tell you, “Well, just-you can ridicule me or betray me- or anything you want, just don’t ignore me. Huuh! Don’t ignore me, please.”

But the whole thing, the whole thing was a rather easy job of auditing except those first few hours. That was brutal. I'd rather have been shot than leave my body sitting in that chair, leaning up against the chimney, looking down through the roof saying, "Three, OK. Um, yes, yes, it was very interesting. Um, um, that's very interesting. Now can you remember... Up against what?" "Yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yappity yap yap, yap yap, moomouwm." Comm lag.

And the most awful thing that you can do to anybody is to ignore them. It’s terrible. Sets up more appetite. If you want somebody to get to a point where he’d like to eat you, why, just ignore him long enough, see? Very simple.

Now there's the other kind of a comm lag where they go silent. And this silence is about the same breed of cat, it's just the other side of the apathy band. You know a person can be in perfect apathy and still use their voice to defend? I talked to you yesterday about defend, you know? Well, this is just another symptom of defense. A person can throw up such a barrage of words that you plain ordinary never get through this barrage of words, that's all.

All right. Now, let’s look at this beingness proposition and we find out knowingness and beingness-and we have got two different kinds of an operation. Do you see that? We’ve got knowingness and beingness and those two things are kind of easy to confuse. They aren’t the same thing. They really don’t properly, as I’ve told you a couple times-every time I’ve put beingness on that scale, I’ve said, “It doesn’t properly belong here, but we might as well throw it in here.”

So, where our difficulty lies with a preclear is getting in that original communication, and that's your trouble with a psychotic, you see, getting in that original communication. But how long does it take to take a case from all the way south to theta clear? Well, it would find most of its time occupied in the lower band. You know, the first jump would be the most difficult one, and then the jumps happen with greater rapidity.

There isn’t any reason to go into the two sides of this ledger, to amount to anything, but you can understand that beingness and an aliveness and a livingness and an awareness does cross with knowingness, but it isn’t knowingness, you see? Knowingness is being aware. The bridge there is awareness. Beingness is being aware. Knowingness is being aware. And because they’re connected by a bridge, you see, they can appear to be the same thing. They really aren’t the same thing.

Well, there are very probably techniques which, as we swing along, will find our people more and more receptive, and more and more, well, easier and easier to communicate with, and will find things in a far better state of auditing in general. Probably there's a lot of things that we're using crudely now we will refine in their uses. But there isn't too much reason to, there isn't too much reason to go around hoping. And let's just look at what, I mean hoping, you know, that all of a sudden well we'll drift along, and, "We won't study this because Ron's going to come up with something that is newier and brassier." That was perfectly true a few months ago.

Beingness is the first tiny little entrance into energy and space, and knowingness is no entrance at all. Total knowingness is no entrance into space, objects or anything. But beingness-we’ve started to enter space and started to enter objects. So we’re already on the dwindling spiral. Well, that’s very fine to call it a dwindling spiral but really it only becomes a dwindling spiral below 2.0 on the Tone Scale.

The funny part of it is right now we find ourselves using, though, such a process as Self Analysis. Funny. Gee, that's been around now for over a year, the way it's now written up. Alright, what are you going to do with this preclear who doesn't make a good jump? Let's take a preclear who's occluded, doesn't exteriorize, has no certainties and so on. If you audit that preclear for fifteen minutes and the preclear is not feeling well, doesn't feel at all in company with life, you can do a lot of things. But the odd part of it is, one of the more beneficial things you can do it just reach for a copy of Self Analysis.

Now, the truth of the matter is that almost any kind of livingness above 2.0 on the Tone Scale is intensely enjoyable. That is, the individual can’t do anything else, but he enjoys it on the bulk of the scale.

Now this, mind you now, this preclear is occluded, can't get mock-ups, has no great certainty on anything and so forth. That's quite interesting. What you do is at least get him to make the gesture toward havingness.

He even has some slight enjoyment out of being bored. Did you ever have anything to do with a society which made its entire interest out of seeing how bored they could act? I think the aristocratic Roman society, toward the end of its days, was making really a big cult out of how bored could they act. The French aristocracy, just before “comes da revolution”-the French aristocracy were also doing this and so on. They were beginning to find out how bored they could act. You can always see when some society is passing down and about to hit 2.0, because they hit a strata of boredom. And then after that, all they can do is be antagonistic, they can’t enjoy anything, really.

Alright, if this person has the gesture there ready to deliver, you know, put up a mock-up, you getting an idea doing something, you at least get an associated chain of thought going. Then you get a little mass added to the case. Quite interesting, isn't it?

Well, if you were to look at this band of sexingness back up to knowingness and so forth and if you were to look at it from the band of, oh, 1.1 or 1.0 or .5 or something on the Tone Scale-because this, by the way, matches the Tone Scale, it’s right on the Tone Scale. It’s just a different way of grading, different way of stretching it out. I think 8-80 goes into that quite considerably. You’ve got a book that goes into that, tells quite a bit about it.

Now, some of the somatics that go through as a person is just gesturing at putting up these things is fantastic. That's because his havingness is being rebalanced or unbalanced, and so on. But you can change the case, that's the main thing which you are trying to do anyway. I hope you're trying to do that.

Anyway, somebody down there around .5 or 1.0 or something like that, he looks up at the rest of it and, of course, his evaluating factors are pretty well stuck in .5 and 1.0. So a fellow in .5 would evaluate enthusiasm as a sort of a grief expressed too loudly. And knowingness, a total knowingness to something at .5 would be of knowing all the things there are to cry about, see? So this is actually a condensing action: that he doesn’t want to know all the things there are to cry about, so he knows less, which puts him further down on the scale.

Now, where, where do we have, where do we expect then our case to bog, or where is the toughest point of auditing? Well, it happens that it's right at the beginning, right there at the beginning of the case. I'm sorry that it is that way, but it is. Right at the beginning. Now you people could feel very discouraged about one preclear or another who insists upon being too this way or too that way, you know, doesn't quite increase and so on. Well, with such a preclear you're making what we would call long haul. And you're making some kind of a break up through the level.

Well, life has long since invented a method of clearing the ledger. They even-we are very, very clever. We can even clear police records. The Federal Boys Institute down here in Washington, that has that big shack on Pennsylvania Avenue with hot-and-cold-running attorneys-by the way, that’s the world’s greatest paper chain. The motto across the door there-it isn’t quite etched deeply into the stone yet-but the motto across the door of it should be “Pass the buck.”

Now you're going to slow yourself down to the degree that you get anxious and start pressing. You know, the fellow that; you know the fellow that presses on the golf club, he never gets on the green? Well you're going to err more times in auditing in that direction than in any other. You're going to be pressing on that golf club, and beating out techniques, and thinking it's a fancier technique that's needed, thinking it's a fancier computation, and all the time it's right there on the stove, the old frying pan that this preclear ought to be cooked in, it's just an ordinary frying pan. It's just exactly what you're doing. Your speed picks up markedly when your understanding of this point picks up. And one of the reasons a preclear doesn't operate, and one of the reasons that an auditor doesn't operate very easily on this early span or the early run, one of the best reasons why he doesn't, has to do with his urgency. You know, he gets this feeling of urgency from the preclear, or he gets the feeling that nothing can be done from the preclear.

You go in there to try to find out about something that has to do with law enforcement or a crime or something-action and you say, “Well, there’s been eighteen banks robbed and I’ve just found out about these banks robbed and so forth.” They send you up to the second floor to tell somebody there. And you say, “Well, these eighteen banks have just been robbed and there’s eighteen billion dollars have just been stolen.”

Here's the big point, the urgent, urgent. You know, it's very urgent, it's an emergency proposition. Well now, let me tell you how to handle an emergency. Be efficient. That's how to handle an emergency. I've seen more emergencies go to hell and really deteriorate, simply because everybody had to be effast, and it didn't occur to anybody to be efficient. I well recall one time an engine had a shell in it. And boy, everybody was rushing around there, trying to put out a resulting fire, and man, they were running around there with empty extinguishers and empty buckets of sand, and they couldn't find the bales of rags, but when they did find them they couldn't find knives to cut bales of rags and so forth. And do you know what was sitting immediately above that engine? Immediately above the engine was the valve which flooded the engine room with spray.

And the fellow says, “Well, sorry. That’s not quite in my department. It’s next door there.” They tell you about that.

I listened to this hubbub going on down there, just time after time I called down through the speaking tube and say, "Do you got that fire out?" expecting the tanks to go up at any moment or something to happen saying, "Do you got that fire out yet? Is it under control?" And then give a couple more conning orders, "Just stems over to the..." So finally I took the coolest looking fellow I could see on the bridge and so forth, and I said, "Go below and put that fire out." He came back a couple of minutes later, just that, a couple of minutes later and he said, "The fire's out, sir." "What happened?" He said, "Nobody had pulled the sprinkler cord.

And you go over to the next door and they say, “Well, you’ll have to fill out a report.” And you say, “Well, the robbers are right this moment going down the end of the street. Why don’t you do something about it?”

Well I swear, they were fooling around with that fire for about twelve, fifteen minutes. See, it was an emergency, and people get wasteful of time in the face of an emergency. And you as an auditor, when you feel yourself getting very, very anxious about this case, and pressing very hard on the case, do you know what you should do with that time? Just a little discipline for you, just reach back and pick up a copy of Self Analysis. Now that you have do so doesn't mean you're rattled on the case, you understand, but this is probably what the case needs. The case actually is benefitted by the feeling that there's something slow going to be done. It gives him the reassurance too, well it might not all have to be done by five o'clock. See that?

And they say, “Well, you put that in the report too.”

So, here's something for you to, to; here's a security for you to depart from. I recommend very thoroughly to you this, and I recommend it in, in the face of an awful lot of data. I've seen that however deteriorate when an auditor didn't, well when he had too much urgency, that's all. There's too much emergency in the air, and so on. They don't pay attention to that little book.

And after you’ve made these reports and so forth, you keep going up floors and down corridors. They don’t furnish scooters to go down the corridors, but they should. And when you finally get back to it, you’ve been referred back to the receptionist, who simply refers you to the door and nothing has happened. The most marvelous organization you ever saw and yet criminals are very frightened of it.

I'll tell you the routine course of a preclear in bad shape applying to my office for assistance. First thing I do is write them a letter; I've gotten down to a point where there's a pattern of these letters. The first letter says, "Well here's a copy of Self Analysis. Get somebody to read it to you," or read it to the person who is in trouble, either way. "Now tell me how you make out." The second reply is to the effect that the person has now gotten worse, and what are they going to do? So the letter that goes back in answer to that is is, "Get the copy of Self Analysis and use it." And the next letter that comes back is in a reply to this copy of Self Analysis, they have received it, but they think it's best to take the person to see somebody in Salt Lake City, or on the moon, or someplace. And then finally, you'll get a letter in; months have gone by by now. And they write in to you and say, "Well, the person, we took the person to Salt Lake City, and we finally wound up and saw a psychiatrist. He's been in and out of the sanitarium now, and has had five electric shocks, and so forth, and now what do we do?" And you write back and you say, "Please open the copy of Self Analysis and begin on page, I think it's sixty-six, and start in."

Of course, you do get some of these boys sitting out in their local offices, where they really don’t have too much supervision. They’ve got a lot of tear gas bombs and a lot of things like that and they have a good time, every once in a while, if they can just prove to themselves that it’s interstate, you know. They’re not allowed to do anything unless it’s interstate and then they can do something. Although the government has proven now that anything, even eating or spitting, is interstate traffic. But these guys will occasionally go out and have a heck of a time for themselves.

Six, seven, eight months is a lag on this. And they finally do, and the person finally bails out of it, if they do it at all. But by not reaching for the technique that has some resolution for the case, they sacrifice six or eight months. Now this is what? This is a psychotic communication lag, isn't it? That's all.

They do this every few years. They got mad at a fellow by the name of Dillinger, so a bunch of them got their pistols out and went down and stood outside a theater he was in-waited for him till he came out-and just shot hell out of him. I think they nicked a couple of ushers, too. But that was just a sort of an explosion from the boredom of it all.

So if you know that this is a symptom, an emergency and waste; do you know the amount of waste there was in the war? When they waste time they have to waste havingness and everything else. They finally wind up; in any emergency homo sapiens winds up much worse off ordinarily, than if he'd just stood back and let the damn house burn down. Do you see that? That an emergency attitude is one which worsens, not which one which betters the situation. Honest.

Well, when police work gets on a big paper chain like this, there’s only one thing it does well and that’s keep everybody’s identity nailed down. And boy, it does that more and more thoroughly. The less efficient a police organization is, the more it will dabble with identity. And when it’s got identity completely nailed, you have no police.

In most fires it would actually be better if they just stood back and let the house burn. I've seen a fire take place on a street, and the only efficient thing that was done about the whole thing was to turn some water on the two or three neighboring houses, so they didn't catch fire too. That was efficiently done. And that was done by the people who owned the two or three neighboring houses, usually, and was done with a garden hose. But here are all these firemen all over the place, and here are these tremendous streams of water. And here are the axes and the battering rams, and so forth. And inevitably you always; go back to the place the next day and take a look, it is burned to the ground. I mean, there's nothing salvageable about it. Well now, it didn't much matter how much effort was put forward into the fire ordinarily, the result is about the same, with this difference, is the more emergency there was about it the more additional property to that property was injured. I have seen the most wonderful things happen in fires. One time I saw a lady in the fifth floor of a building which was on fire. She was completely neglecting the fact that she had better come downstairs, and bring that baby with her. And she had some Heppelwaite or something, china, or whatever you call it. And she did it all up in a blanket, and she took it out on the fire escape. And without even saying, "Stand clear," to anybody below, dropped it five floors. Yet she just had seconds left.

That sounds funny because it sounds, you know, like, well, gee whiz, if they knew who all the criminals were in the country, why, gosh, gee, that would make law enforcement just grand and wonderful and, gosh, you could law enforce everybody then. Gee, gee, look at what you could do.

No, all you do when you’ve got them all nailed down is tax everybody. Nothing to do with law enforcement. The more a government nails down the individuality of its citizenry, the less justice the government must furnish, because it’s easier for the government to find people’s names and addresses in order to get the tithe-which is the real reason for police, I guess. I guess the first police were born when the first taxpayer refused to pay his tax. I don’t think any police existed up to that moment.

Well now, you think I’m talking way astray, but the funny thing, isn’t it, that actually 7 today that you don’t have the same sterling amounts of law that you had, for instance, a hundred years ago. They used to have cops a hundred years ago. You know, the guy would go out and he’d be looking for the criminals and he’d go find some criminals. But he might not find the right criminals, but ordinarily he did. In the first place, a police officer of a hundred years ago in New York City had to know, personally, practically every criminal in New York City.

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That’s funny. You’d say, “If he knew all the criminals personally, he’d lock them all up.” Well, they’ve got them all in the files down in the FBI and they’re not all locked up. But more criminals were locked up at that time than later.

.. to you that wanted to. Duplicate it. Now mock yourself up in the condition where anything that wanted to could communicate to you. And duplicate it. Now mock yourself up in a condition where nothing could communicate with you if you didn't want it to. Do that again.

These fellows used to go in and they’d look through the lineup-you went around and found a detective, he could tell you who all the criminals were in town and where they were hanging out and where to pick up somebody and where not to and so on.

Now how many on the first one got dead body? Sick body? What it is of course is a dead body. Now here is the boy who has gone into an identity. The most identity there is is a dead body. That's unfortunately true. The most identity there is is something which is completely motionless, and identity and motion are themselves a direct index.

How did he get this? Well, not by writing it down. He just knew it, you see, by his professional level. You know, that was his professional activity. He knew these people when they were hauled in. And in the morning, for instance, he’d walk down through the jail and he’d take a look at everybody they had locked up and ask them what they were in there for and ask some of the other boys. And he’d be on the beat there for three or four years and then all of a sudden, why, golly, anybody did a crime, he’d say, “I bet that’s ‘Louie the Duke.’ Yeah, yeah, he left a crowbar outside the window and . .. Yeah, it probably is. Well, let’s see, he usually hangs out down there at the Bide-a-Wee Saloon” and go down and pick him up. “Well, come along Louie” and here we go.

As the identity increases the motion decreases, 'til you get complete stillness. Now if you want a terrifically imposing identity, you just fix yourself in one spot very fixedly, and you'll get an identity. Now the more thoroughly you fix yourself the more identity you'll get. Now that doesn't seem to hold true, because you think of a dead body as not having any right to use his name. Even though he has the name, Bill, he hasn't any right to use that name, but wait a minute. He has no right to motion. He has a right to a name but no right to motion. And anybody can find him, anybody can communicate with him.

Also, there was less of a cleavage between the criminal and the cop. The cop was pretty degraded, so was the criminal. Criminal wasn’t quite as much degraded as the cop, though. Well, nowadays, the cop is in apathy. And by golly, the newspaper syndicates had better look out because criminals are going into apathy, too, and they won’t have anything to print.

For instance, as long as there's the slightest bit of life in an individual he can protect or defend the body in some fashion. In other words, the body cannot be communicated with totally. For instance, damp might not be able to communicate with it, Earth might not be, dirt, these things can't communicate with it. He's protecting it to some degree, you see? He could still remove it into the situation, one way or the other, where he had some protection. But if that body is dead, immobile, then Earth, and rain, and anything can get to any part of it, to the deepest part of its structure. Mold; animal runs along, it can run over it, anything can touch it in other words. Somebody comes along after the battle, the body's lying there dead, why, they generally just pump a few volts into them, or wack them with a acute force, something of the sort. They quite normally treat bodies very disgracefully after a battle. They recognize this. In modern times they plow them into trenches and send empty coffins home to the folks. But there is the end product of MEST universe communication. Do you see that? And it's an identity. And identity tends in this direction.

The paper chain is getting better and better and better and better and better, but you look in vain for justice.

Why does the FBI know you, I fooled you. You just thought I was yapping about law and order. I'm not yapping about law and order, there isn't any law and order, that's what I'm yapping about. Why's the FBI want every criminal's fingerprints every place in the land? So they can communicate with them, of course. You see? So the better the fingerprint files, why, the better the communication. So when the communication is utterly perfect, and they can reach him at all times, and no communication whatever can be prevented in the FBI, then they think they have a good police system. They haven't got a police system, they got a death system. See? And a society degenerates to a point where that system itself considers every citizen within it having no right to move without state permission. And you have this along the iron countries today. You have no right to move unless you have the permission of the state. You haven't any right to walk without permission of the state really, because you're stopped, and your papers requested every few blocks. Interesting, isn't it?

Now, you go into almost any law enforcement agency and say, “I have just this moment been robbed and my wallet stolen and I was knocked out and so forth.” Boy, you’ll just wish you never went near the joint. If you’ve ever had this experience, you just wish that you never closed terminals with that police station. Because by the time they get through with you, you’re absolutely certain that you’ve robbed somebody, [laughter]

That's all on the basis of cutting down motion, cutting down motion. And the more motion cuts down, why, the less freedom there is. So this is other determinism, and other restriction, which of course winds up in the no-freedom of death. Death is the no-freedom level. That's why we have the tone scale. The tone scale is really just the tone scale from life to death.

Female voice: Uh-huh.

Now it so happens because of the thetan that there are levels below death, as you conceive it. But these are not communication levels worth a nickel, because the truth of the matter is - and this will pick you up as your spirits sit there and sag, you poor people, having stuck you in a few past deaths - get this one; the only thing MEST can communicate with is MEST, and you're not MEST. So it must work out on the basis of protection that you're doing, and if you're mobile at all, if you're mobile at all it must be that you're capable of some protection. And the degree of protection of which you are capable is the degree of mobility which you can achieve with that MEST which you're trying to protect. You see that?

Yeah, it’s fantastic. Now, you want to sue somebody for something or do something like that, well, there’s so much paper chain sitting there that you have to do something about it.

Alright. Then let's see that the MEST universe, it could be said this way, like I was saying it before, which was why you got so depressed, that the MEST universe can at any time communicate with you directly. Well it can communicate with thetan plus body pretty well, but it can't communicate with a thetan, except as he chooses.

Now, typical of that is the notice that appears on the windshield of your car if you’re overparked. There isn’t anything even vaguely legal about it. You have not been served with a summons. It specifically states in every state constitution and every other doggone place that a fellow has to be processed by due processes of the law. And a due process of law specifically includes, in any code of laws we have in the United States, that a person be personally served with a summons. They don’t serve anybody with a summons.

Now the individual who steps out of the body and then can't see anything right is simply really exercising his methods of protecting himself. He isn't in communication with the MEST universe because he conceives communication from the MEST universe to be dubious, at best. You know, it has dubious value. MEST can communicate with MEST. It's all very well to say the MEST universe is composed of consecutive spaces, so therefore any part of the MEST universe can be in communication with any other part of the MEST universe. This shouldn't make you unhappy. You would think it was a funny football field where goal post one couldn't communicate with goal post two because they were on two entirely different planes in two different towns. That's be a real silly game, wouldn't it? So if there are uninterrupted spaces between here and Jupiter, or uninterrupted spaces between here and the next island universe, why, of course there can be no game. It's just the game is pretty big, and can get pretty vicious. But it's a big playing field. But just as a football player can go over and sit on the side lines, so can a thetan go over at any time and sit on the side lines, as far as the MEST universe game is concerned.

Now they leave us something or other on the windshield of your car, which can blow away or deteriorate. And somebody else might have borrowed your car and torn up the summons. And yet, do you know that if you don’t reply to that in a very short space of time, they will actually issue a warrant for your arrest? On what grounds? Well, for having been served a summon and not having appeared.

Now, what the thetan's been doing, he's rigged himself so that this can be a fairly covered up fact, so that he won't have to remember past lives, so that he won't have to have any identity in those lives, because he's really as immobile, he believes, as he has identity in those lives. There's nothing wrong with remembering those lives, but the more identity you kick up for him in past lives, the less mobile he becomes, the more times he's stuck on the track, if he considers that an identity, as a symbol, is in itself valuable. So we come back to the definition of a symbol. A symbol is an idea wrapped up in energy, which is mobile, which takes of course space. It's energy in space, but it has mobility. It definitely has mobility.

But do you know how they do it? You know how they collect that and why they do it? It’s very simple. Nobody wants to go down because it says on these cards that if you don’t pay it within forty-eight hours, why, you should come down. If there’s any protest about it, you should come down and arrange to set the date of trial. That’s what it says there, if you look at these summonses. You have to set the date of trial.

Now it's an idea wrapped up in energy. So anything can communicate with it, of course. In the MEST universe, anything can communicate with a symbol. Anything. The book down at the library can be thrown out back and a horse can see it. He doesn't have to be able to read to communicate with the book. Well he'd have to be able to read to communicate with the deep significance of the book, but we're not talking about significances. We're just talking about a book. And here's a book, and a horse can look at a book. So can some dead leaves look at a book. Any shaft of sunlight, or any drop of rain can communicate with that symbol.

What the hell are they talking about, the date of trial? In the first place, it’s not legal for a city to charge for parking and it could be contested if anybody wanted to contest. In the second place, nobody has been served with a warrant. And in the third place, here is duress and that is extortion (that’s its title). So there’s practically no difference today between a criminal and a cop. The cop is engaging in extortion.

So anything in the MEST universe can communicate with a symbol, really, except for this: Except for the protective instinct of life. Now you think life is destructive, but it isn't life that you're fighting. Many people think they're fighting life, and they are hard to live with to the degree that they think they have to fight life, that they think that life is their randomity. They're ... to live with as they haven't chosen life for their randomity, and recognize rather clearly that this playing field itself is a liability. Now the only liability there is to this playing field is that it is consecutive spaces, and can communicate from one corner of it to the other consecutively. And the only liability a thetan has, that he loses his ability to protect those masses or symbols which he is shielding from communication. See that?

Well, he always has, to some degree, but not quite that flagrantly. You don’t think that’s flagrant because, well, that’s just the way the society runs and it’s only a buck, anyhow. And so you send in your dollar or forget about it. And next time you get your license, you’ll find out they’ve got a warrant for your arrest, that now causes you seven dollars unless they serve it or ...

So he is as able as he can protect. There's nothing wrong with protecting and defending. An individual cannot possibly exist without some ability to protect. It's a funny thing that there's one thing that isn't a dichotomy in all of this, and this too works out very interestingly in terms of an interesting comment. You can if you wish run on a preclear your problem. You know, you just say, "The preclear's problem is this, and the preclear's problem is that." We use it all the time very loosely, because that's our frame of reference here in this particular culture. But do you know that if you were to double terminal "my problems" you'd probably get no action? You get no big action, you just double terminal out there, four times. You can try it on a preclear if you want. Because I am telling you about it it might or might not work on you, but you get four terminals, "my problems," and you just don't get much action out of it. Nothing, nothing violent. But you put up "other people's problems" as four terminals, put it up there four times. Try it. I don't see a lot of sighs around here. Getting a little action out of those mock-ups?

This isn’t law. That isn’t law enforcement, it isn’t justice. Because as the beingness runs down, the justice runs out. And you’ll find your preclear as low on the Tone Scale as he conceives he cannot himself get or he himself cannot enforce justice.

Now put up "my own personal problem." Now which one had the most action connected with it? (... others ...) Yeah, a lot of action on that, other people's problems, 'cause that's all the problem you got. There isn't any other problem than the other person's problem. This works out very basically from this business of protection, communication. Now by our definition communication is any particle flow. That's communication. So we find out that a bullet or a Western Union telegram or anything else; as a matter of fact, a thetan doesn't much distinguish, mostly because good and bad are a matter of consideration. Well he can start to consider that bullets are valuable communications and good communications, and Western Union telegrams bad communications, even though they tell him he's won a million dollars in a lottery. You see, we've got that consideration enters in there that fools a lot of people. They think there are contra-survival and pro-survival elements, just because of the judgement they're utilizing, and a frame of reference in which they are working out the immediate problems with which they're dealing.

There’s a direct index between a person’s ability to use or do his own justice or have it done for him and his well-being.

If a bunch of boys get together to destroy a company of the enemy, believe me they are not going to consider any beneficial fact a good fact. The only good facts they have there are destructive facts. So they come up and they say, "Well alright, let's fix up some hand grenades so they have a one half second fuse. And let's fix them with the enemy labels, and leave them in the enemy supply dumps. That'll do for a few of them, and let's see." And everybody would sit around, and after somebody tossed that one up, why, they congratulate each other you know. "That's a good one, that is. That's real good," and so forth. Well, it's just a matter of viewpoint, a matter of beingness. It's what company or what army they belong to, what fact is good.

You ask somebody on this circuit-now, by the way, I’m going to run this on you here just for a second.

Now they find this pile of hand grenades with one half second fuses in their own supply dump, and a half a dozen of their boys use them. Now that's a bad fact. No good at all. It's what they're protecting that makes things good or bad. And what they're protecting against that makes the bad. And this breaks down to just the business of beingness. What are they being specifically? What are they being? Are they being themselves or being the enemy soldiers?

Now name three things you can do to somebody else.

Now once in a while some fellow sails in at a high tone, and he looks over this game and he says, "Isn't that interesting. Those fellows are being blue shirts, and these fellows over here are being green shirts. Hm." A lot of nice guys on both sides. He'll say, "What you guys fighting for, huh?" Well they've got lots of reasons. Yeah, they'll have, they have more reasons than anything else. Well this guy was fairly high toned, won't interfere particularly with them fighting, but he's liable to point out to them how they could make a much better game out of it, because it basically looks like a game to him, you see? And he finds that the green shirts keeps all their troops waiting for two years before they let anybody fight, and this spoils the game. And the blue shirts do something else, and that spoils the game. And he says, "Gee whiz, you know something? I'm going to let you fellows in on something. You're geared, according to your time ratio to have a game here, and I don't find you doing anything. Why don't you have a game?" You know, that doesn't seem right to him, they don't have a game.

Now name three things somebody else can do to you.

Alright, some other guy drifts in, and he's in real apathy. He's been whipped. He knows he can't protect anything. He's just sure the green shirts and the blue shirts alike will turn on him. Even if he's a green shirt he knows the green shirts will fight him, if he's a blue shirt he knows the blue shirts will fight him. And he goes in and he says immediately on this level, "Well, killing is wrong, and everything is wrong, and fighting is wrong, and you shouldn't do that. And what you should all get is at Beastianity or something." That's strictly from a self protection method, because he knows he can protect nothing, he has to have no action. So you get a mockery level on the tone scale, which is the mockery level is a high level on the tone scale. You see they look alike at a first glance. You have to distinguish between the two, and the distinguishing thing between the two is how much motion is being called for.

Now get some things you can’t do to somebody else, [pause] Some things you can’t do to somebody else.

Some fellow who is talking very, very benignly, but calling for no motion of any kind whatsoever, and no action of any kind whatsoever, he's on the mockery band. But somebody could talk very, very benignly way on up the scale.

Now get some things somebody else can’t do to you. [pause] Some things somebody else can’t do to you.

Now a thetan is in good shape and having a good game on this percentage. He's using fifty percent of his activities as attacking, and fifty percent of them as defending, or protecting force. He's so composed that about fifty percent of his activity has to do with attacking, and about fifty percent has to do with defending. And he'll have a good game and a well balanced game, and he'll go on and he'll have a lot of fun, and lots of things will happen. And the reason I give you this is because it's a figure that holds good in almost any sport, including war. That's a good, good average.

Is there anybody present who has not answered that last one with certainty yet? Haven’t answered that last one with certainty?

For instance, if you imbalance infantry and make them a ninety percent holding force, they're going to lose. Look at France. They made France into a hundred percent holding force in the Maginaw line. You can't handle infantry like that, that's all there is to it.

Male voice: All I do is get a few.

Now let's take a besieged castle. The odd part of a besieged castle is it has to do so much attacking. You say, "But it's besieged, it's ringed around by its attackers, and it can't possibly do any attacking because it's ringed around by its besiegers and so forth," and that's a sort of definition of the game. Well, if you look into history and the wars that had to do with siege craft and so forth, you'll find out that about the deadliest thing to sting would be some kind of a castle like that, because if it just sat there and defended itself it would fall. The besiegers could sit there and their supplies could come in, and they could get supplied and they could get squared around, and nothing would happen, and everything would be very calm in the countryside, and it could be plundered at will, and people would just sit there in the castle you see, and wait to be eaten up. And maybe the castle could defend itself, but there is no time limit on how long a besieger who has full run of the countryside can beseige.

Okay. That’s right.

So those castles became unbesieged, which themselves would spend about fifty percent of their time holding the castle, and the other fifty percent just raising hell with the besiegers. How'd they do this? They'd have sally force, small group of men slide out in the middle of the night, and the next thing you know, why, eighty baggage wagons go up in smoke. And then there's a small group of cavalry go out, and they just cut the communication lines to pieces. Then the next thing you know, the besiegers are besieged on the other side, and they're caught in between by a fairly sizable force, one way or the other. And boy, it got real random.

You answered it with certainty?

Siege warfare is an interesting study, mostly because it has ceased to exist almost, and it appears to be an entirely new picture. But what do you know, our old pal, our old pal Hitler didn't know anything about siege warfare. He decided that you could neglect arms posts; he decided you could neglect force. And he did with great success, because he was fronting generals who didn't know how to use them. And then as the war progressed, the boys realized what he was doing, so they started specializing in siege warfare and a few other things like that, and the great warmachs were naught. You know? He just took armed points and that sort of thing, and just cut his communications and everything else to ribbons. And so this huge machine depended entirely for attacking and no protection, oh boy. It lost.

Male voice: Yeah.

In any game of life that'll happen. If in business you simply were to sit still and take only the inflow, and never do an outflow, you'd starve in a very short space of time. So we get this whole picture of balanced flows, which this universe has so pat. Outflow, inflow. And a good game is fifty percent outflow and fifty percent inflow.

Yeah well, what can’t they do to you?

Now you get a preclear to come along, and the preclear will say to you, "You know, I outflow all the time, and that makes it possible for me to hold off and defend myself, one way or the other." Huh-uh. You won't find him in very good shape. We'd call this a stuck flow or something of the sort.

Male voice: They can’t kick me out of my house. They can’t rip my clothes off my back. They can’t get me out of my head. [laughter]

This fellow must have some ability to attack in order to protect. Just to protect he has to attack. So the fellow who says, "I'm going to sit still the rest of my life and have tea," has just signed his own death warrant. You see why he has? He's still going to be in this universe. Well, there's your problem with a preclear is how much can he defend. The other part of the problem is how much is he trying to. And that gets to be grim.

Second male voice: I’ve tried at all those, but then when I get to thinking about it.. .

If Japan had not fallen when Japan fell, Japan could have won the war in the next wave. Because Japan spread herself all over the Pacific in such a way as to convince the US forces into a raiding force, then it became elementary to roll up the Japanese from island to island. Became elementary. Why? Because Japan was spread all over the islands, of course. Well now, all things being equal and atom bombs aside, and if the somewhat like manufacturing abilities had been more of a parity between the two, by the time the US had rolled up Japan back onto the home island, she theoretically would have left a very heavy raiding force, very compact, which could still have raised hell with the US forces. And we could have gotten this where first the US is spread all over the Pacific, Japan rolls them up with a raiding force. Then, the US is all compact now, so it rolls up all these Japanese spread all over the Pacific. Then the recurring wave of that, if it hadn't had been for the amount of destruction which was done, would have been simply for Japan to now be compact, and come back and roll up all the forces it had left, having been buttered all over the Pacific. So we get your give and take, back and forth.

That is the justice index of the case, that question. And if you just run that on a preclear that long and if you’re in direct communication with him when you ask him the last question, if you were to start a stopwatch, it will give you a direct time index on how long it’ll take to Theta Clear him-direct index.

Now your preclear's gotten himself spread out all over the universe, one time or another, and he's still got fixed ideas about what he's trying to defend all over the track. And, our problem with such a preclear who is quote, buttered all over the universe, is that this individual has recognized his failure to protect on practically every playing field with which he has a communication. And he's in communication with playing fields rather than knowing about playing fields. He's in communication with other planets. He's in communication with all sorts of things. Fixed. And you'll find such a preclear with enormous corded communication lines wrapped all around him and everything else, he's long on communication and very short on being able to protect and defend.

And I’ll show you why that is. His individuality is one thing and his identity is another. And he is into the trap of trying to use identity as an insistence upon justice. “I am so-and-so, therefore, I am safe.” And that’s the neatest booby trap there is. Because the more he is a certain identity, the less safe he is. It’s an immediate and direct departure from good sense. It’s an inversion.

Well when you look at the fact that his beingness, his beingness is as good as he can grant beingness to other things, if he has the idea he has to protect everything to which he has granted beingness or is granting beingness, if he then has to protect it, he isn't going to grant beingness to anything. And so we get a pattern of case, and this is a patterned case. You'll find this case many times. He's buttered all over the place. You ask him where he is not, or where he's not thinking or something like that, and he has a difficulty in telling you. Great difficulty, great communication lags on the thing.

And he gets there by this: it’s demonstrated to him continually that anybody can do anything they want to him.

Well you say, "Alright, now be the bed." He can't be the bed. It's the same thing. He has the idea that if he is anything, then he has to protect it, and he knows he can't protect anything. And what you call an apathy case would be a fellow who not only can't attack, but can't defend either. So we get this thing rolling up in this fashion. A fellow starts out about, he starts out all attack. A hundred percent attack. And then he gets some things to hold to, and that breaks down gradually 'til he's fifty percent attack and fifty percent protecting the things he holds. Now he gets so many things to hold he figures there's a scarcity of an ability to attack. He figures there's a scarcity of attention, you see? And he starts down to a point where he's only defending now, he's gone up to about a hundred percent defense, and then that comes down the line to less and less defense. They're still his, but he's not defending them.

And this rolls on back to where he's only defending fifty percent of what he has. And he's only defending twenty percent, and ten percent, and here's where you start into your apathy case par excellence. Next thing you know he only has a body. And that's all he can grant any being to, and that's all he can defend. Well boy, the thetan that only owns a body is in horrible condition. He won't be able to get mock-ups or anything else. He can't get a mock-up of things which are not his, or things which will not potentially be his. So, we get this problem of invested beingness of communication, of identity pretty well wrapped up. You see that? See how it could deteriorate?

And again, anything could communicate to you that wanted to. Duplicate it.

Now it would start out of course at a higher echelon than I gave it. It'd start out just knowing about things and not attacking anything. And he'd have to split the universe into two halves, the blues and the greens, before he could really engage in any kind of a random game. His knowingness at that moment would have to drop to fifty percent. See that?

Now mock yourself up in a condition where anything that wanted to could communicate to you. And duplicate it.

So actually there is really just an intellectual philosophy that goes along right with this is how would you lead a peaceful life? Well there is a way to lead a peaceful life, know all there is to know about everything on the process of being able to be everything. Now you could know all there is to know about everything in terms of symbols and data, but be unwilling to be anything. And you'd be at the bottom of a scale, because you'd be dealing exclusively in symbols. You wouldn't be dealing in real beingness.

Now mock yourself up in a condition where nothing could communicate with you if you didn’t want it to.

But life has a mechanism which solves this. After a body is ditched, dead, why, the thetan says, "OK. Now I'm on a no ownership, no attack basis," and he doesn't know much but he's got some kind of a system, and he just jettisons all this. You know, just cuts the communication lines as nearly as he can, and he grabs this next body and he says, "Now I have that force which is, potentially can attack everything, and own everything." Pardon me, me says at first it can own everything. A little baby owns everything. And then he gets along to a point where he can attack everything, then he's into his teens. And then he goes from there into defending family, he's got a unit he has to defend, he can't attack any further, and then he sort of starts to fall back and he can't even defend his family, and he gets back to a standard homo sapiens. There's your banker usually, your drug clerk, your bus driver, and so forth. He really, he'd have a little bit of a hard time defending his body, truth be told. You ask him very closely about it, he'd tell you there were quite a few things that could knock in his body. Well that's a funny state of mind to be in, you know? The body shouldn't be the last point of ownership.

Do that again.

Now you ask the fellow to exteriorize from this, exteriorize into what? Into where? Well he's on a, he's defending, he's defending the small area immediately ahead of ...

Now, how many on the first one got dead bodies?

Audience: [various responses]

Sick bodies, sick bodies. What it is, of course, is a dead body.

Ask him to exteriorize from this and you're asking him to give up all that he as left to defend - a little spot in the head.

Now, here is the boy who has gone into an identity. The most identity there is, is a dead body. That’s unfortunately true. The most identity there is, is something which is completely motionless. And identity and motion are themselves a direct index. As the identity increases, the motion decreases till you get complete stillness.

The MEST universe communicates with you billions to one over that with human beings. An individual sold on the idea he is a symbol can't protect anything - because he can't be the other force.

Now, if you want a terrifically imposing identity, you just fix yourself in one spot very fixedly and you’ll get an identity. Now, the more thoroughly you fix yourself, the more identity you’ll get.

An individual who is shipped is trying to protect by being ugly and abhorrent. He's unable to attack, and his defense is covert. A blind man knows he can't defend his body, so fixes the body up so nobody will want it.

Now, that doesn’t seem to hold true, because you think of a dead body as not having any right to use his name. Even though he has a name, still, he hasn’t any right to use that name. But wait a minute. He has no right to motion. He has the right to a name but no right to motion.

Most preclears hard to exteriorize are afraid of others being them. He starts out wanting others to be him and winds up afraid they will be.

And anybody can find him, anybody can communicate with him. For instance, as long as there’s the slightest bit of life in an individual, he can protect or defend the body in some fashion. In other words, the body cannot be communicated with totally. For instance, damp might not be able to communicate with it. Earth might not be-dirt, these things can’t communicate with it. He’s protecting it to some degree, you see? He could still remove it into situations, one way or the other, where he has some protection.

To run beingness on a preclear not willing to be anything but himself, keep racking around until you can find something he's willing to be. Have him be it, then himself - and when he can be that thing, find something else he can be. If a person can't be the beingness of something, he can't know much about it. Even cars have geingness - granted beingness by their manufacturer. A person who can BE a car can pervade it and keep it in working order.

But if that body is dead, immobile, then earth and rain and anything can get to any part of it, to the deepest part of its structure-mold. Animal runs along, it can run over it. And anything can touch it, in other words.

You can deteriorate the inclinations of anything by consistently being it.

Somebody comes along after the battle, the body is lying there dead, why, they generally just pump a few bullets into him or whack him with a few swords or something of the sort. They quite normally treat bodies very disgracefully after a battle. They recognize this. Modern times, they plow them into trenches and send empty coffins home to the folks.

To make the world bright to somebody: LOOK!

But there is the end product of MEST universe communication. Do you see that? And it’s an identity. An identity tends in this direction.

Why does the FBI-now you-I fooled you. You just thought I was yapping about law and order. I’m not yapping about law and order. There isn’t any law and order, that’s what I’m yapping about. Why does the FBI want every criminal’s fingerprints, everyplace in the land? So they can communicate with them, of course.

You see? So the better the fingerprint files, why, the better the communication. So when the communication is utterly perfect and they can reach him at all times and no communication whatever could be prevented in the FBI, then they think they have a good police system. They haven’t got a police system, they got a death system, see?

Don't audit when the preclear is tired, or sleepy, or if it's late. Check to see if he's having nightmares, and if he is, give him B1. It's best taken in milk. Fifty milligrams is necessary, but 200 is better.

And a society degenerates to a point where that system itself considers every citizen within it having no right to move without state permission and you have this along the iron curtain countries today. You have no right to move unless you have the permission of the state. You haven’t any right to walk without permission of the state, really, because you’re stopped and your papers requested every few blocks.

If the guy has "jelly legs", you've keyed in gravity. It doesn't help to run it out because you're running the GE. Give him a slug of B1. You've hit the thetan agreement line with the genetic agreement line.

Interesting, isn’t it? That’s all on the basis of cutting down motion, cutting down motion. And the more motion is cut down, why, the less freedom there is. So this is other-determinism and other-restriction, which, of course, winds up in the no freedom of death. Death is the no-freedom level.

Also, check up on what he's eating.

That’s why we have the Tone Scale. The Tone Scale is really just the Tone Scale from life to death. Now, it so happens because of the thetan that there are levels below death, as you conceive it, but these are not communication levels worth a nickel. Because the truth of the matter is-and this will pick you up as your spirits sit there and sag, you poor people, having stuck you in a few past deaths-get this one: the only thing MEST can communicate with is MEST and you’re not MEST.

Changing auditors is bad.

So it must work out, on the basis of protection that you’re doing. And if you’re mobile at all-if you’re mobile at all, it must be that you’re capable of some protection. And the degree of protection of which you are capable is the degree of mobility which you can achieve with that MEST which you’re trying to protect. See that? All right.

These are 1950 rules - and they're still important. If you don't step outside these rules, you can do almost anything to a preclear. And if an auditor pays attention to these rules, he'll probably have little trouble.

It could be said this way, like I was saying it before, which was why you got so depressed: that the MEST universe can, at any time, communicate with you directly. Well, it can communicate with thetan plus body pretty well, but it can’t communicate with a thetan except as he chooses.

Protein is no longer a factor to make them spin or not spin. You probably could eat yourself thin, but not diet yourself thin. Wounds heal on a protein diet - not on carbohydrates.

Now, the individual who steps out of the body and then can’t see anything right is simply really exercising his methods of protecting himself. He isn’t in communication with the MEST universe, because he conceives communication from the MEST universe to be dubious at best. You know, it has dubious value.

MEST can communicate with MEST. It’s all very well to say the MEST universe is composed of consecutive spaces, so therefore any part of the MEST universe can be in communication with any other part of the MEST universe. This shouldn’t make you unhappy.

You’d think it was a funny football field, where goal post one couldn’t communicate with goal post two, because they were on two entirely different planes in two different towns. That would be a real silly game, wouldn’t it? So if there are uninterrupted spaces between here and Jupiter or uninterrupted spaces between here and the next island universe, why, of course, there can be no game. It’s just the game is pretty big and can get pretty vicious, but it’s a big playing field.

But just as a football player can go over and sit on the sidelines, so can a thetan at any time go over and sit on the sidelines as far as the MEST universe game is concerned.

Now, what the thetan has been doing, he’s rigged himself so that this can be a fairly covered-up fact so that he won’t have to remember past lives so that he won’t have to have any identity in those lives. Because he’s really as immobile, he believes, as he has identity in those lives.

There’s nothing wrong with remembering those lives. But the more identity you kick up for him in past lives, the less mobile he becomes, the more times he’s stuck on the track, z/he considers that an identity as a symbol is in itself valuable.

So we come back to the definition of a symbol. The symbol is an idea wrapped up in energy which is mobile which takes, of course, space. It’s energy in space, but it has mobility, it definitely has mobility.

Now, it’s an idea wrapped up in energy, so anything can communicate with it, of course. In the MEST universe, anything can communicate with a symbol-anything. The book down at the library can be thrown out back and a horse can see it. He doesn’t have to be able to read to communicate with the book.

Well, he’d have to be able to read to communicate with the deep significance of the book, but we’re not talking about significances, we’re just talking about a book. And there’s a book and a horse can look at a book. So can some dead leaves look at a book. Any shaft of sunlight or any drop of rain can communicate with that symbol.

So anything in the MEST universe can communicate with a symbol, really, except for this: except for the protective instinct of life.

Now, you think life is destructive, but it isn’t life that you’re fighting. Many people think they’re fighting life and they are hard to live with to die degree that they think they have to fight life. They think that life is their randomity. They’re as easy to live with as they haven’t chosen life for their randomity and recognize rather clearly that this playing field itself is a liability.

Now, the only liability there is to this playing field is that it is consecutive spaces and can communicate from one corner of it to the other, consecutively. The only liability a thetan has: that he loses his ability to protect those masses or symbols which he is shielding from communication. See that? So he is as able as he can protect. There’s nothing wrong with protecting and defending. An individual cannot possibly exist without some ability to protect.

It’s a funny thing that there’s one thing that isn’t a dichotomy in all of this and this, too, works out very interestingly in terms of an interesting comment. You can, if you wish, run on a preclear “your problems”-you know, you say, the preclear’s problem is this and the preclear’s problem is that. We use it all the time, very loosely, because that’s our frame of reference here in this particular culture.

But do you know that if you were to Double Terminal “my problems,” you’d probably get no action? You’d get no big action. You just Double Terminal out there four times. You can try it on a preclear if you want. Because I’m telling you about it, it might or might not work on you, but you get four terminals, “my problems,” and you just don’t get much action out of it-nothing violent. But you put up “other people’s problems” as four terminals . ..

Put it up there, four times. Try it.

I don’t see a lot of sighs around here. Getting a little action out of those mock-ups?

Now put up “my own personal problem.”

Now, which one had the most action connected with it?

Female voice: The other people's.

Male voice: It’s a lot of things.

Yeah, a lot-lot of action on that “other people’s problems,” because that’s all the problem you’ve got! There isn’t any other problem than the other person’s problem. This works out very basically from this business of protection, communication.

Now, by our definition, communication is any particle flow. That’s communication. So we find out that a bullet or a Western Union telegram or anything else ... As a matter of fact, a thetan doesn’t much distinguish, mostly because good and bad are a matter of consideration. Well, he can start to consider that bullets are valuable communications and good communications and Western Union telegrams bad communications, even though they tell him he’s won a million dollars in a lottery, you see? And we’ve got that-that consideration enters in there that fools a lot of people. They think there are contra-survival and pro-survival elements just because of the judgment they’re utilizing and the frame of reference in which they are working out the immediate problems with which they’re dealing.

If a bunch of boys get together to destroy a company of the enemy, believe me, they are not going to consider any beneficial fact a good fact. The only good facts they have there are destructive facts.

So they come up and they say, “Well, all right. Let’s fix up some hand grenades so they have a one-half-second fuse and let’s fix them with the enemy labels and leave them in the enemy’s supply dump. That’ll do for a few of them. And let’s see.”

And everybody would sit around. And after somebody had thought that one up, why, they’d congratulate each other, you know, “Ah, that’s a good one, that is. That’s real good” and so forth. Well, it’s just a matter of viewpoint, a matter of beingness. It’s what company or what army they belong to, what fact is good.

Now, they find this pile of hand grenades with one-half-second fuses in their own supply dump and a half a dozen of their boys use them. Now that’s a bad fact, no good at all.

It’s what they’re protecting that makes things good or bad and what they’re protecting against that makes the bad. And this breaks down to just the business of beingness. What are they being, specifically? What are they being? Are they being themselves? Are they being the enemy and so forth?

Now once in a while, some fellow sails in at a high tone and he looks over this game and he says, “Isn’t that interesting? Those fellows are being blue shirts and these fellows over here are being green shirts. Hmm. Lot of nice guys on both sides.”

And he’ll say, "What you guys fighting for, huh?”

Well, they’ve got lots of reasons. Yeah, they have more reasons than anything else.

Well, this guy who is fairly high-toned won’t interfere particularly with them fighting, but he’s liable to point out to them how they could make a much better game out of it because it basically looks like a game to him, you see?

And he finds that the green shirts keep all their troops waiting for two years before they let anybody fight and this spoils the game. And the blue shirts do something else and that spoils the game.

And he said, “Gee whiz. You know something? I’m going to let you fellows in on

1 something. You’re geared, according to your time ratio, to have a game here and I don’t find you doing anything. Why don’t you have a game?” You know, that doesn’t seem right to him, they don’t have a game. All right.

Some other guy drifts in and he’s in real apathy. He’s been whipped. He knows he can’t protect anything and he’s just sure the green shirts and the blue shirts alike will turn on him. Even if he’s a green shirt, he knows the green shirts will fight him. If he’s a blue shirt, he knows the blue shirts will fight him.

And he goes in and he says immediately on this level, “Well, killing is wrong and everything is wrong and fighting is wrong and you shouldn’t do that. And what you should all get is ‘Beastianity’ or something.” That’s strictly from a self-protection method. Because he knows he can protect nothing, he has to have no action.

So you get a mockery level of the Tone Scale, which is the mockery level of the high level on the Tone Scale. You see, they look alike at a first glance. You have to distinguish between the two and the distinguishing thing between the two is how much motion is being called for.

Some fellow who is talking very, very benignly but calling for no motion of any kind whatsoever or no action for any kind whatsoever, he’s on the mockery band. But somebody could talk very, very benignly way on up the scale.

Now, a thetan is in good shape and having a good game on this percentage: he’s using 50 percent of his activities as attacking and 50 percent of them as defending or protecting force. He’s so composed that about 50 percent of his activity has to do with attacking and about 50 percent has to do with defending. And he’ll have a good game and a well-balanced game and he’ll go on and he’ll have a lot of fun and lots of things will happen.

And the reason I give you this is because it’s a figure that holds good in almost any sport, including war. That’s a good average.

For instance, if you imbalance infantry and make them a 90 percent holding force, they’re going to lose. Look at France. They made France into 100 percent holding force in the Maginot Line. You can’t handle infantry like that, that’s all there is to it.

Now, let’s take a besieged castle. The odd part of a besieged castle is it has to do so much attacking. You say, “But it’s besieged. It’s ringed around by its attackers and it can’t possibly do any attacking, because it’s ringed around by its besiegers and so forth and that’s sort of the definition of the game.”

Well, if you look into history and the wars that had to do with siege craft and so forth, you’ll find out that about the deadliest thing to sting would be some kind of a castle like that. Because if it just sat there and defended itself, it would fall.

The besiegers could sit there and their supplies could come in and they could get supplied and they could get squared around. And nothing would happen and everything would be very calm in the countryside and it could be plundered at will. And the people would just sit there in the castle, you see, and wait to be eaten up. And maybe the castle could defend itself, but there’s no time limit on how long a besieger who has full run of the countryside can besiege.

So those castles became unbesieged, which themselves would spend about 50 percent of their time holding the castle and the other 50 percent just raising hell with the besieger.

How did they do this? The/d have sally ports. Small group of men slide out in the middle of the night and, the next thing you know, why, eighty baggage wagons go up in smoke. And then there’s a small group of cavalry go out and they just cut the communication lines to pieces. Then the next thing you know, the besiegers are besieged on the other side and they’re caught in between by a fairly sizable force, one way or the other. And boy, it got real random.

Siege warfare is an interesting study mostly because it has ceased to exist almost and appears to be an entirely new picture. But what do you know, our old pal-our old pal Hitler didn’t know anything about siege warfare, he decided that you could neglect armed posts. He decided you could neglect forts. And he did with great success because he was fronting generals who didn’t know how to use them.

And then as the war progressed, the boys realized what he was doing, so they started specializing in siege warfare and a few other things like that and “the great Wehrmacht were not.” You know, they just disarmed points and that sort of thing and just cut his communications and everything else to ribbons. And so this huge machine depended entirely for attacking and no protection. Oh boy, it lost.

In any game of life, that’ll happen. If in business you simply were to sit still and rake only the inflow and never do an outflow, you’d starve in a very short space of time. So we

I get this whole picture of balanced flows which this universe has so pat: outflow, inflow. And a good game is 50 percent outflow and 50 percent inflow.

Now, you get a preclear come along and the preclear will say to you, “You know, I outflow all the time and that makes it possible for me to hold off and defend myself one way or the other.” Uh-uh. You won’t find him in very good shape. We’d call this a stuck flow or something of the sort.

This fellow must have some ability to attack in order to protect. Just to protect, he has to attack. So the fellow who says, “I’m going to sit still the rest of my life and have peace” has just signed his own death warrant. You see why he has? He’s still going to be in this universe.

Well, there’s your problem with a preclear, is how much can he defend? The other part of the problem is, how much is he trying to? And that gets to be grim.

If Japan had not fallen when Japan fell, Japan could have won the war in the next wave because Japan spread herself all over the Pacific in such a way as to condense the US forces into a raiding force. Then it became elementary to roll up the Japanese from island to island. Became elementary. Why? Because Japan was spread all over the islands, of course.

Well now, all things being equal and atom bombs aside and if somewhat like manufacturing abilities had been more of a parity between the two, by the time the US had rolled up Japan back onto the home island, she theoretically would have left a very heavy raiding force, very compact, which could still have raised hell with the US forces.

And we could have gotten this: where first the US is spread all over the Pacific, Japan rolls them up with a raiding force, you see? Then the US is all compact now, so it rolls up all these Japanese spread all over the Pacific. Then the recurring wave of that, if it hadn’t have been for the amount of destruction which was done, would have been simply for Japan to now be compact and come back and roll up all the forces that had left, see, having been buttered all over the Pacific.

So we get your give and take, back and forth.

Now, your preclear has gotten himself spread out all over the universe, one time or another, and he’s still got fixed ideas about what he’s trying to defend all over the track. And our problem with such a preclear who is (quote) “buttered all over the universe” is that this individual has recognized his failure to protect on practically every playing field with which he has a communication. And he’s in communication with playing fields rather than knowing about playing fields.

He’s in communication with other planets. He’s in communication with all sorts of things-fixed. And you’ll find such a preclear with enormous corded communication fines wrapped all around him and everything else. He’s long on communication and very short on being able to protect and defend.

Well, when you look at the fact that his beingness-his beingness is as good as he can grant beingness to other things-if he has the idea he has to protect everything to which he has granted beingness or is granting beingness, if he then has to protect it, he isn’t going to grant beingness to anything.

And so we get a pattern case and this is a pattern case. You’ll find this case many times. He’s buttered all over the place. You ask him “where he is not” or “where he’s not thinking” or something like that and he has a difficulty in telling you-а great difficulty, great communication lags on the thing.

“Well,” you say, “all right. Now, be the bed.”

And he can’t be the bed. It’s the same thing, see. He has the idea that if he is anything, then he has to protect it and he knows he can’t protect anything. And what you call an apathy case would be a fellow who not only can’t attack but can’t defend, either.

So we get this thing rolling up in this fashion. The fellow starts out about-he starts out all attack, 100 percent attack. And then he gets some things to hold and that breaks down gradually to it’s 50 percent attack and 50 percent protecting the things he holds.

Now he gets so many things to hold he figures there’s a scarcity of an ability to attack. He figures there’s a scarcity of attention, you see. And he starts down to a point where he’s only defending. Now he’s gone up to about 100 percent defense and then that comes down the line to less and less defense. They’re still his, but he’s not defending them.

And this rolls on back to where he’s only defending 50 percent of what he has and he’s only defending 20 percent and 10 percent. And here’s where you start into your apathy case par excellence. The next thing you know, he only has a body. And that’s all he can grant any being to and that’s all he can defend.

Well, boy, the thetan that only owns a body is in horrible condition. He won’t be able to get mock-ups or anything else. He can’t get a mock-up of things which are not his or things which will not potentially be his. So we get this problem of invested beingness, of communication, of identity pretty well wrapped up. You see that? See how it could deteriorate.

Now, it would start out, of course, at a higher echelon than I gave it. It’d start out just knowing about things and not attacking anything. And he’d have to split the universe into two halves, the blues and the greens, before he could really engage in any kind of a random game. His knowingness at that moment would have to drop to 50 percent. See that?

So actually, there is, really, just an intellectual philosophy that goes along right with this, is how would you lead a peaceful life? Well, there is a way to lead a peaceful life: know all there is to know about everything on the process of being able to be everything.

Now, you could know all there is to know about everything, in terms of symbols and data, but be unwilling to be anything and you’d be at the bottom of the scale because you’d be dealing exclusively in symbols. You wouldn’t be dealing in real beingness.

But life has a mechanism which solves this. After a body is ditched, dead, why, the thetan says, “Okay. Now I’m on a no-ownership, no-attack basis.” And he doesn’t know much, but he’s got some kind of a system and he just jettisons all this-you know, just cuts the communication lines as nearly as he can. And he grabs this next body and he says, “Now I have that force which potentially can attack everything and own everything”-pardon me. He says at first it can own everything-a little baby owns everything. And then he gets along to a point where he can attack everything-then he’s into his teens. And then he goes from there into defending family. He’s got a unit he has to defend, he can’t attack any further and then he sort of starts to fall back and he can’t even defend his family. And he gets back to a standard Homo sapiens.

There’s your banker, usually, your drug clerk, your bus driver and so forth. He’d have a little bit of a hard time defending his body, truth be told. You ask him very closely about it, he’d tell you there were quite a few things that could knock in his body. Well, that’s a funny state of mind to be in, you know. The body shouldn’t be the last point of ownership.

All right.