Today we’re going to continue to talk about spacation. We’re going to go into energy, particles, and then go into time. We’re going to cover this all very rapidly and if anybody gets left behind, that’s too bad.

Third hour this afternoon, December the 4th, continuing this third talk on spacation. Going to go over this again very rapidly, very, very briefly and very rapidly. We are talking about, in this universe, a series of agreements as follows:

We have a couple of questions here which have been asked; they’ll probably be answered in this lecture just in general.

One, there is an origin point, unknown but understood. You’ve not located that origin point, you just say all this space somehow or other comes from an origin point. Now that is the first point of confusion about the MEST universe, is that there’s space all around and it must be coming from someplace and so on, which is not the case. Then there’s origin point one and that could also be origin point „I“. And that is the viewpoint of dimension, and that is the definition of space: Viewpoint of dimension, of the individual. And he looks around and he can assign viewpoints. The handiest way to do this is, of course, to simply mock up anchor points, mock up dimensions.

Now the subject of spacation is the subject of the creation, handling of, or concept of space. What’s space? Very difficult problem at this time. It is sufficient to answer the problem in this wise. Actually the physicist has no definition for space – now isn’t that a heck of a thing? He operates in space all the time and he doesn’t have a definition for it. He says, „space,“ and everybody knows what he means, only he doesn’t know what he means.

And then the third thing we’re dealing with is anchor points. Now an anchor point is that point which origin „I“ assigns so that he can have dimension and motion. Now he has either assigned it or just agreed upon it, or agreed that he will assign to these understood things. It says: That is a room. A room has eight corners, therefore there are eight anchor points to a room. Every time you go in a room now you know this, there will be eight anchor points and you will accept immediately the anchor points which everybody around accepts as this room’s anchor points. Is that understood? That’s good. Now we’ve made you dependent.

Now, uh… a mathematician has a viewpoint for space. He says „point, a point is something with location but without dimension. It has no length, breadth, or thickness.“ That is a point, mathematician’s definition of a point. Now that’s all very well, but uh… what about this space?

So, there’s origin I and that is a viewpoint from which one can perceive anchor points, and these anchor points actually assign dimension or boundary to space. And these anchor points are called anchor points because they’re actually used as electrodes or terminals as on an electric motor. Whenever there is motion, one holds the anchor point and perceives the motion. It’s very simple. He also perceives the anchor point, holds and perceives the anchor point and then sees something changing without those anchor points moving. You get a… at sea and you give some ensign a maneuvering board problem; you’ve got a picnic on your hands, because you’re telling him to use as origin points the center of a board which… it’s an abstract center which has no real reality, which is probably moving.

Well, I’ll tell you what a space is, and a space is something, uh… well, you see it’s like this. Time… time, you see, you have time and you have, uh… well uh… the two interlocked and uh… and you, have time. That’s… that’s motion, and uh… what motion is… is uh… well, that’s time, uh… uh… well, operating in space. You see how that is?

And then you say, „Now look, here are three or four anchor points. Those will be the ships in the problem and these anchor points are all in motion. Now this is a maneuvering board problem. When will the anchor points coincide and crash? Or when will they rendezvous? How far do they have to go in order to get any…?“ That’s a maneuvering board problem. That’s very rough stuff.

Now that’s all very clear and I’m very glad that you have that, because that is the limits of uh… our understanding the subject. Now, I want you to get into something very practical like building a steam locomotive, uh… weights, balances, and all into other complicated things here in this subject of physics because we haven’t got the time to spend on these basic fundamentals like what is space.

Now, if he doesn’t have an instructor who merely wishes… if he… most instructors, you see, merely wish to obfuscate, and if he doesn’t have an instructor who wishes to obfuscate, the instructor will point out to him, „Look, it doesn’t matter how fast that origin point is moving. It is static. It’s right there in relationship to the outermost limits of the graph.“

All right, let’s… let’s take a look at space. Now when you… when… when your physicist starts talking, remember the other day I was telling you, you can do an awful lot if you have three frames of reference. And you compare each frame of reference to the other frame of reference, then you’re all right.

One of those graphs, simple looking affair, but uh… you’ve got anchor points which don’t move and they’re not moving at such and such a postulated rate, well, who cares? Who cares how much they’re not moving? They’re anchor points. And if you’ll just take the center of the board and the limits of the board, and then figure out everything else on the board as points in motion in relationship to these anchor points, he’s all set.

If you have three frames of reference just as you have if you have three summer lines of position, you’ve got a position. You can orient yourself, but don’t just take three, think you have something very thorough, if you merely have three things, each one defined in terms of the other two and without any further definition.

But if he goes at it in reverse and tries to… to figure it out that the anchor points are in motion, and the origin points are in motion too, of course he has nothing to tie any motion to, so no motion can occur and he can’t see how any motion could possibly occur and he’ll just sit there with his mouth open.

Don’t think you have something defined. That is definition, as you find in the HANDBOOK FOR PRECLEARS, that’s definition by association. Uh… what is a cow? Well uh… a cow is like uh… yeah, well, you know what a bull is. Well, uh… well, a cow is not a bull but it is like a bull, and uh… they’re in a barn so that’s like a barn. low you understand of course what a cow is. That’s silly, isn’t it?

That would be the same thing if I told you the two forward… forward corners of this room – if you believed it – the two forward corners of this room uh… were moving four miles an hour to the right except the right-hand forward corner which occasionally went in a circle. And those were the only two points that you could perceive anywhere around.

And yet, the physicist has been doing this. He says, „What’s space? Well, space is something in which uh… operates, uh… well, it’s motion, motion, and that’s time and… and motion… motion is change of position in space, and you see that changes position by time and time is a change of a… of a… a action or something in space.“

Now you were supposed to tell the velocity of something that was between those two points. I just… just wouldn’t… just be horrible. But you could do it because you’ve got one point and you could possibly plot the other point. You could stretch your minds to do this sort of thing, but it’d be an awful job.

„You know, what is a cow? A cow is a… it’s like a bull, but it’s not a bull, but cows and bulls have something about this thing, otherwise you wouldn’t have barns. And uh… the barn, that’s a… we don’t know anything else about a barn. Actually it’s a far clearer explanation than…

Now, anchor points, then, are assigned or agreed upon points of boundary which are conceived to be motionless by the individual. He’s on a train. He looks up and down. Somebody walks down the aisle of the train; he knows somebody’s walking down the aisle of the train because he holds the forward end of the car as one anchor point and the after end of the car as another anchor point and the individual, who is in motion, has a shifting dimension, from one to the other of these two things so somebody can walk.

„Well, I’ll tell you. Space is something that is determined by time and energy, and energy is something determined by space and time, and time is something determined by energy and space.“ Now I tell you, get up… get an airplane up in this rat race and you get going around this field. And you go round and round and round. And you’ve got to get out of this rat race before you ever land or go anyplace with the airplane. Now that’s the solid truth of the matter.

But let’s look out the window. And there we see the countryside flying by like mad. Sure, it’s the countryside flying by like mad. You have to explain to a little kid how the countryside is not flying by. The countryside is motionless; the train is what’s in motion. He knows this from past lives and so forth, but a little kid can get awful kinda fooled on this. And every once in a while he’ll sort of grit his teeth and say, „All right, it’s actually doing that – but it doesn’t look that way.“ So actually the countryside is flying by with relationship to the two anchor points, the forward end of the car and the back end of the car. Those are what’s motionless and the countryside is flying by, of course.

Physics, nuclear physics, atomic and molecular phenomena, is going round and round in that rat race right now. What’s space? Space is a dimension in which a motion can operate and that’s time.

Now if you say every telegraph pole there is an anchor point and those anchor points are shifting, then you can conceive that the train is in motion. You can even sit in the train then and feel the train rushing forward and the countryside sitting still. But it’s quite a trick. But you can do that with great ease.

What is time? Time uh… well, time is a measurement of change of a motion in space. Well, now, what is a motion? Well, that’s something operating in time and space, of course. Now I want you to get clearly there that if you have uh… some sort of a rat race like this, it adds up to space, energy and time, and that stands for S E T and that is SET.

A race driver does this with facility. He goes so fast that even he knows he’s in motion, because the track is shifting so fast with relationship to the bonnet and the shoes of the car that he… he could feel that. Why? He’s got an up-and-down vibration and sideways and so forth.

And SET was the most incredible, to read, of all Egyptian cats. And that was night itself. Now, actually, when… when you said… when you said this, you… you actually have a slightly wider range of comparison. We’ve said, what is space, energy and time. Well, space, energy and time adds up to SET and SET is a cat and that is an Egyptian cat, and it was a black cat. Now that’s all there is to it. But actually you’ve said more than energy, space and time. Space is time and energy, and time is space and energy. You’re not out of any rat race, I mean, we’re just there.

If you want to really drive a fast car, get one with small wheels built close to a track; that’s a very fast car. If you want to drive a slow car, get one with great big wheels and a big powerful motor, and with… it rides awfully easy. And that’s really a slow car.

And we’ve got to get out of this association of ideas and get over into another association of ideas before we can determine this and before we can use these concepts actually and handily in human experience – not just build uh… atom bombs and child’s toys and so forth with them.

What’s this got to do with miles per hour? It has nothing to do with miles per hour except in relationship to anchor points which the driver isn’t perceiving. You see? Uh… that’s very interesting.

Before we can do anything with these things we have to have them in a framework where man can experience. Now you are motion in space and time. You’re quite aware of that. But unless you compare that immediately and exactly to understandable experience, these three things aren’t worth much to you.

In some countries they tell you they have very fast railways. That’s because their trains go over rough tracks, terrible tracks; they’re built rather close down and the countryside isn’t ever observed. But what is observed is the way you bounce around in that car – boy, is it taking off. Furthermore, everytime the engineer starts one of them up he goes it from zero throttle, full throttle – BOOM. And you go crash across one car and crash the other way and you know that thing is driving. You know that thing is really going.

You build an atom bomb, so what? That’s nothing. So what are they? Space is a viewpoint of dimension. That’s a good definition. Thought it up myself and recommend it to you very thoroughly. Space is a viewpoint of dimension.

But let’s take something with 120 lb. rails, built well up off the ground and let’s take it at 120 miles an hour down the track. Thing isn’t moving, obvious. You sit there, have a whisky soda, something of the sort, in the parlor car. Finally railroads became so despairing about people believing trains didn’t move fast that in most of those very fast trains, back in the parlor car they have a speedometer.

Now we have such a thing as height, length and breadth. And you would get here uh… from an origin, you would get X Y Z. Now actually that’s a sort of a floor there and this back area here is a… a wall. You see how that would be there, you got a quadrant. You’ve got a chunk of space; it’s a viewpoint of dimension, that’s all, just a viewpoint of dimension.

All right, then what… what is… what is this whole business motion? Well, let’s get right into the second stage here.

Now that doesn’t mean that you necessarily have to be at the point of view of your space. You can make some space that has a viewpoint of dimension way over there. Or you can be at the viewpoint of dimension yourself. You can mock up one, put one out here. You can be at it yourself, or you can be operating in a hidden viewpoint of dimension. That is to say, here’s a viewpoint of dimension over here someplace and you can actually operate without Knowing exactly where it is. You just know you’ve got some space.

What’s matter? Matter is not simply condensed space, it’s relatively unoccupiable space, and the solider matter is, the more you have postulated that it is unoccupiable. And when you get out as a thetan you’re travelling on a high wave length, the first thing your preclear may do is slam into the ceiling. And then he realizes suddenly that he does not have mass, and the second he realizes he doesn’t have mass he goes on through the ceiling.

And if you do that you have to put in a false viewpoint of dimension. You have to add then a viewpoint of dimension of your own. Now supposing you didn’t know where 0 was and you were out here. And you were operating in 0’s space, X Y Z 0 space, and you’re at… you’re at this little point here which is point one. And you want to use X, Y, Z coordinate space and you don’t know where 0 is.

Sometimes he has to fish around for a little while to find the wall of the ceiling in order to… to come back through it and use it as an anchor point. He has to practically repostulate it in order to get back into the body, and when he gets out and first realizes this, of course all time and space scrambles to him, scrambles all over the place. The reason why is he has lost what most people are holding on to madly as the last anchor point.

You’ve got to postulate something to use that adequately. You’ve got to say you know where 0 is. You’ve got to sort of assume you know where 0 is. That is the physical universe. You’re assuming you know where 0 is. 0 exists in the physical universe.

I call this, the point of origin is in the body – well, let me extend that a little bit for your clarification. The only anchor point he has is the body, that he can be sure of. His level of certainty has diminished and diminished and diminished throughout life. He’s become so dispersed, any other anchor point has been found to be so reliable, that they disappear if you sneeze at them. And this unreliability of anchor points has finally brought him down to the fact that when he pinches himself, he knows it’s real. He knows he’s not dreaming because he can pinch himself and get a sensation. This is the same thing as saying, he knows he can perceive his body because he has not been chased off that as an agreement.

What is the point of origin of the coordinates of the physical universe three-dimensional space? Actually this type of space is the idiot’s delight. This type of space goes into minus coordinates and down here you have a quadrant. Here you have a quadrant, back there a quadrant, here a quadrant. You’ve got eight quadrants.

See, he agreed to all these anchor points, and then other people broke the agreement. They kept taking anchor points away from him. So the one thing they haven’t taken away from him is his body and he has this body then as an anchor point from which he cannot be robbed.

If you take three intersecting planes there it gives you all these beautiful quadrants. Three intersecting planes – it’s very lovely, beautiful, and uh… the planes don’t exist, all they are is a viewpoint of dimension. Now to each one of you postulating a viewpoint of dimension: as long as you postulate that you do not know where origin is, you cannot then yourself say you are origin. As long as… as you think, „Well, there’s an origin someplace, and that’s really what the origin is, why, I’ll just kind of tap in and say, „Well, I… I’ll be origin too, I mean I’ll just view this thing from this.““

So his reality consists of anchor points to the body and other anchor points around are kind of vague. He doesn’t perceive them very well because he knows other people haven’t agreed to them. Why? They’ve taken them away from him, haven’t they? So when we start perceiving, or as this person starts perceiving, he’ll perceive the body more and more and more and the environment less and less and less until we get the dwindling spiral which finally leads not only past the normal homo sapiens, but on down to a six and a seven case level of Standard Operating Procedure.

But it’s a sort of diffident thing; it’s something – you don’t say I’m origin for the MEST universe. Just… just think of this. Just think of this as the thought to yourself right now: I am the origin point of the whole MEST universe.

And this person doesn’t even know it’s real by an anchor point of the body. A seven has lost the body as an anchor point. No longer has the body as this anchor point, so he cannot be sure where he is because he knows the body isn’t real either.

Sometimes people get pale when they think of that. „That’s just, oh no, I am the point of creation of the MEST universe. No, no, uh-uh.“ Now, what he does instead, he says, „Origin, I don’t know anything about that – wherever the origin is, but I sort of look at what is there in terms of origin. I sort of look at this from a viewpoint here that, well, uh… it’s a secondary viewpoint and somebody must have given it to me.“

But as a person goes down the tone scale, down the tone scale, down the tone scale, his environment contracts on him. The lower emotions are contracted environments, less motion capable, more solidity, harder to move through. A person can actually feel this. You get… run him through a moment of shock, he will feel the environment close right in on him and become practically no-dimensional.

And here we get the whole theory of God made the physical universe and God made me but uh… I am – by His good offices, good graces and by a charter which I don’t quite have a copy of – am able to view all this space by His leave. And that’s where you get that.

He’s abandoning every anchor point in the environment because he’s saying, „It can’t be actual. It can’t be actual.“ That’s the same thing as saying, „It can’t be happening. I don’t want this motion. I’ve tried to stop the motion itself, in order to stop the motion, all I can do is abandon the anchor points and that will make the motion stop.“

Now, what kind of self-determinism is this? This is pretty horrible self-determinism. Now what… what’s the viewpoint of space of the MEST universe? Well, the truth of the matter is, you are at the viewpoint of the space of the MEST universe with an extensional line from the viewpoint of space of… of dimension of the MEST universe. You’re actually at that point. You want to know where you are? Well, you’re actually at that point. And you want to know what you’re doing? You’re kidding yourself you’re someplace else. Now, that’s the trick of the MEST universe.

Only that doesn’t make it stop either because he’s still got the body. And he’s got the body and the motion continues in relationship to his body as an anchor point and so he feels the whole environment contracting down and he’ll finally abandon the body as well in order to stop some motion which he conceives to exist beyond his control and beyond his ability to withstand the perception.

If you can tell a fellow, „All right, now look, we’re going to coincide our viewpoints of dimension. Now you agree that uh… it’s that-a-way and that-a-way and that-a-way. Now you agree that, don’t you? All right, now that you’ve agreed that, you have that, now you know you couldn’t possibly have made that, now we’ll move you someplace else and you pretend you’re at this new place.

All right, this gets right into motion, anchor points, dwindling anchor points. You’ll find that individuals who move the least have the fewest clear anchor points. You will find that the ability of an individual to tolerate speed depends completely upon his ability to hold anchor points. And his ability to hold anchor points depends only upon his belief in his ability to hold anchor points. And anchor points come down to being postulates.

It’s very simple to take a thetan and knock him into a state of somnolence and make him believe he is someplace else and then actually operate with him at that new place. You could, for instance, take a… go down the street here and find a lady of easy virtue and uh… put her into a super trance and then tell her very convincingly while she’s in this super trance that you’re going to take care of her body, but you simply want her to go down and uh… uh… uh… be Mrs. Eisenhower. The darndest things would happen to Mrs. Eisenhower. This is one of the oldest political gimmicks in this universe. This is so old and so worn out as a political gimmick that nearly everybody has done it and he is now guilty of an overt act every time he thinks of it.

How do you remedy this situation then? How do you rebuild this ability? You just have a person start postulating anchor points, dimensions to space, that’s all, and contract them and expand them and contract them and change them around and then put in new dimensions and change the old dimensions and then age the dimensions you have and then decrease the dimensions. And then decrease the space and expand the space again and scramble then the anchor points.

You take somebody’s body here and you just change this false viewpoint of dimension. Because it is a false viewpoint of dimension from which he is operating, an extended viewpoint of dimension of the same point in space, he can then be shifted anywhere because he’s already lost. He’ll already believe he’s anywhere if he doesn’t know where he is. All you’ve got to do is get somebody thoroughly lost and then tell him that he’s at Broadway and 42nd Street while he’s standing out in the middle of Albuquerque, and if he’s so thoroughly lost he couldn’t even recognize Broadway and 42nd Street he would shake you by the hand and pant with gratitude. You’ve at least given him a name for the place he is and the point he is.

Have the anchor point that is over to the right move and be the left side anchor point and so forth. Turn the space upside down backwise to. Interchange these points and then throw in a whole bunch of random points. Then throw all these random points together in a pile, thereby collapsing the space. Make some matter out of it and then bring those anchor points back out again and move them around as anchor points.

Now you recognize that, he’s… he’s so anxious to be found that he’s willing to believe he’s lost. All right, we take this fellow and bring him into the MEST universe, and you say, „All right, now, uh… you’re coming in here at the point of origin viewpoint. And uh… here you are and you see all these beautiful dimensions. Now you’re here. Now just out of a favor we’re going to let you into this place and you can go someplace else and take a look at it.“ Of course, the viewpoint of dimension is right there.

Now take these anchor points and set them way out somewhere and then fill that space full and then defy the laws of space in the MEST universe (which laws of space have to do with our agreement on how much space can hold in relationship to oneself) and start dumping into that space things it obviously cannot hold and have it remain the same size and just keep on doing this, then empty that space again and then dump things into this space. Now empty this space and throw them to places where there is no space, and bring them back into places where the space is much too small for them and have them fit very adequately.

He’s never been anyplace else from the moment he first heard about the MEST universe until right this instant. You want to play around with this with a preclear, you can feel the walls start creaking. Now we’ll say something about it takes two to disagree. If two disagree with the MEST universe, it’ll go by the boards or something like that. It’s almost… it’s almost that delicately in balance. It’s something you have to be very, very careful about, not something which you have to fight and hit over the head with a sledgehammer.

Shift the anchor points around again, throw the anchor points away. This starts in on a gradient scale. Take one point and move it around, and then take two points and move the two points around and then move them close together and then further apart. The first thing your preclear will find – if he’s down around five and so forth – don’t pick this up if you don’t do it – is, the first time he tries to hold two anchor points in relationship to each other, they’ll snap together and go zero on him. He’ll try to put two points out there and they’ll keep going snap.

The only reason people are hard to process is they’re scared that they’ll find just that and go zip and here won’t be anything. And so they… they won’t move over here and touch this viewpoint of dimension but they’re at the viewpoint of dimension; they’ve never been anyplace else because they can’t be anyplace else in the MEST universe but at the viewpoint of dimension. But that’s a point of no space.

The distance between them will collapse. Not only will they snap together, but they’ll snap back onto his body. Of course they will, because his point uh… anchor point is his body. So in order to be sure of any anchor point he naturally has to bring it back and feel it on his body, If he doesn’t feel it on his body, it isn’t an anchor point.

And origin is a point of no dimension. A point has neither length, breadth nor depth, but it is something from which you could view length, breadth, and depth. Now if you very adventurously suddenly start out and postulate that you are a viewpoint of dimension, you have broken agreement with, as far as you are concerned, with being where you are.

Eventually get him to perceive an anchor point at some distance from his body. And then perceive two of them and be able to hold them apart and shift them around at will. Be able to move them farther away and closer up. Shift them around all locations possible, these anchor points. Change the character of the anchor points. Make them different.

You are saying I am at my own point of origin; naturally, how could you ever be anywhere else. If you’ve agreed that you were at the MEST universe’s point of origin and then the MEST universe has given you a point of origin which you can now use, you have abandoned your own ability to be a viewpoint of dimension. And if you’ve abandoned being a viewpoint of dimension yourself then you don’t think you can create space.

The next thing you know you’ve clicked out the belief he must have that the anchor point must be furnished him, and he will find out suddenly, „Gee, what do you know, heh, I’m… I’m the viewpoint of dimension.“

What’s space? Space is a viewpoint of dimension. That’s why in mock-up processing you get this odd phenomena: An individual goes ahead and he looks at these mock-ups and they fade out and they get thin and they do this and they wobble around. He thinks he’s viewing them in somebody else’s space.

Now the second step of this merges straight on into force and it goes into the first level of force, which is sensation. Sensation has a lot to do with ARC – ARC, it gets pretty crude when you can define it as ARC. At first it is merely sensation. It is rather undifferentiative. It is still a flow; the ridges on it are quite minor, and then the ridges start to get heavier as the person comes down the tone scale.

He doesn’t know he’s really viewing them in his own space, that he’s never had anything but his own space, there isn’t anything but his own space, he… he doesn’t know this so he thinks they wobble around. Get him to postulate first a viewpoint of dimension. Get him to postulate and look and make the area in which he’s going to place the mock-up. Now the way you make this area, is simply to give it dimension from the viewpoint of the individual. You just give it dimension, you say, it’s uh… uh… long that-a-way and that-a-way and it’s… it’s… it’s tall that-a-way and that-a-way to a certain distance. And it’s… it’s wide this-a-way and that-a-way, and it just goes out there.

So the first thing you do on a mock-up drill is to put something out there and put an emotion into it and then feel the emotion. Because that’s what a person does all the time, 24 hours a day. There’s no sensation coming off of anything except what sensation he puts into it and pulls back off of it again. Just as he neglects continually to postulate his anchor points in space for the sake of automaticity and interest to himself, so does he neglect continually to perceive this little step. In order to see something and feel about it, one has to project onto it the generally agreed upon feeling about such things. And one projects onto it this generally agreed upon feeling about such things and then perceives back off of it this perception, and the first step he wishes to enter his awareness is „I perceive a sensation emanating from.“

And uh… it’s uh… it’s a very finite dimension. I got… I’ve extended a shell out there and got this shell all around this particular area and, all right, now we’ve got a space here. Now we’re going to put a particle in this and we’re going to make the particle go into motion and we are going to have a mock-up.

Now he’s got to have space in which to do that because it’s emanating FROM and you can’t have anything emanating from anything unless you’ve got some space there first. You can’t have anything emanating to anything unless you have some space there first, too,

And actually, if he goes at it a long… this isn’t a ritual line, this is really the only way you can do it. He’s been doing that other automatic and let’s get out of the automaticity bracket. He’s been doing the other automatically so you just say to dickens with this automatic. It’s getting postulated space, and you’ll find something very peculiar – that the things are more durable.

Now what’s the drill? What’s the drill? You just put things out there and you just take the emotional scale and the emotional scale from 40 to 0.0 as will be covered, is the zeros of MEST and the 40.0 is space. Now matter is really a 0.0 and 40.0 is space. So what does this coincide with? It coincides with the action cycle. At 40.0 you have start, intermediate you have change, at 0.0 you have stop. At the top of the emotional scale you have space, at the middle of it you have action, at the bottom of it you have matter. And this coincides with an experience: emotional experience, with the top of it being serenity and then, about 20.0, on a very high exhilaration, then exhilaration dwindles off and we get… we just skipped enormous array of emotions, by the way, and we skip right on down into what the homo sapiens and low level beings in general experience as emotion, which is enthusiasm, caution, boredom, antagonism, anger, fear, grief and apathy.

His… his mock-up won’t… are… he looks at them and he’s much more interested in them and they’re much more durable and he’s more careful of his space. So, whenever you have a preclear doing a mock-up, he will think he’s using MEST universe space and as such he… he really won’t have too much brrrr doing this because he knows he’s just working on borrowed space, and… but that’s the biggest gag that could happen to anybody, isn’t it?

And as we go down that, we’re going down the action cycle. We’re also going down the creation, change and destruction cycle. And all those cycles are coincident cycles. So your preclear will be able to perceive only at the lowest levels at first, usually, and he will only really be able to perceive at a certain height. This is the only way I know of swiftly changing the emotional tone and therefore the position of the preclear on the tone scale is to shift his position on the sensation scale.

Fellow comes along and he says, „Now look,“ he says, „here you are at this point of dimension? Now you’re going to look at our dimension. Ha-ha. Now you’re going to look at our dimension. Now look out that-a-way and this-a-way and tall-a-way and wide-a-way and… and just… just look at this all. And that’s our viewpoint of dimension. How do you like it?“ Rrrrr.

That sensation scale and the emotion scale can be considered to be coincident scales: that is, to have him put anger onto an object and feel its anger, to put fear onto an object and feel its fear, to put grief onto an object and feel its grief, to put apathy onto an object and feel its apathy. Now what would that be doing? That would be moving your preclear in order right on down the tone scale, wouldn’t it? And if you went through that order and you said, „Now put some antagonism on this object. Put some anger on it. Now put some fear on it and perceive the fear, now put some grief on it and perceive the grief. Now put some apathy on it and perceive the apathy. And you just went through that cycle in that order from 2.0 down each time as the drill, you’re agreeing completely with the MEST universe. You’re agreeing and therefore he will on go down the tone scale.

You see, all he’s done is make this fellow make some space. I mean, „Now you’ve seen our viewpoint of dimension, isn’t that nice? That’s a nice viewpoint of dimension. Now we’re going to let you go into one of the coordinate points from this viewpoint of dimension and uh… you after that will be able to view our space. And that’s very nice and we’re not going to charge you anything for it. That’s very nice of us.“

But now if you just vary that and then make it slightly random and then vary it upwards and then make it random and then vary it upwards again, why, you’ll eventually be able to boost him up because really what you’re doing is changing postulates. You’ll be able to boot him up to exhilaration.

So, he is told he is at the viewpoint of a dimension and after he’s told he’s at the viewpoint of dimension, so help me, he is permitted then to go to a coordinate point in these dimensions and thereafter operate.

The fellow who goes initially and immediately into serenity, very fast into serenity, without realizing what he does for emotion has simply backed off from experiencing sensation. He has mistaken serenity for sensation. I mean this… he’s mistaken this sensation of backing off from sensation for serenity.

Position one, the only space there is as far as he’s concerned is, the space which he is manufacturing every instant from viewpoint one. But he’s manufacturing from viewpoint one a backtrack back to origin point and he’s keeping this space manufactured all the time very arduously in order to have viewpoint one.

Down a little lower on the tone scale, of course, a person is fixed in what they feel. Just like a piece of MEST is fixed with what you felt. You put this MEST out on the table and it’s on the table. You know a table is there because everybody feels that table. And you agreed that you are everybody, so there you are out there and you feel it.

Now, there isn’t any reason why he just can’t start manufacturing space from viewpoint one. He just manufactures space out here and here and here. No reason why he can’t. It’s idiotic that he doesn’t, except for one thing: If he did that too thoroughly the MEST universe would vanish.

Now, you can put something on it and take an emotion off of it. But that is a little hidden step and most people very successfully hide that from themselves and they’ll be quite startled when they suddenly find out that their emotional a… volatility is considerably increasing and also that their complete and utter slavish dependence upon the MEST universe as such is itself decreasing.

Now he does this very diffidently because he’s afraid that if he does this the MEST universe will vanish and then he won’t know how to get back to that point of origin. That’s cute, because the only way he can get back to the point of origin is to say, „Well, let’s see, I’m… I’m viewing this thing now from the point of origin of the MEST universe. Okay, now that I’m there I shall now extend myself to the coordinate point one. Okay, I’m at the coordinate point one, I shall now view the MEST universe.“

Why, they never saw the like of this, it’s very strange. They… they… they… they feel better. That’s the only way they’ll say it. Probably won’t even explain it to you at all exactly why this is. But up to this time they’ve said „MEST universe will deliver sensation to me.“

And he will again. He doesn’t get lost. That’s elementary, an elementary dissertation on the thing.

The reason a guy gets down to apathy is he’s no more willing. He thinks he has to receive the sensation without putting the sensation out. And the more he believes this, the less force he employs; and the less force he is willing to employ, the more he will do this; and the more he does this, the less real sensation there is for him; and he gets into the null of no sensation lower band, which apparently is just flicking around sort of grief and apathy and maybe a little fear. Once in a while he becomes annoyed and he said, „I was in a rage the other day.“

What do we mean by space then? We mean a viewpoint of dimension. That’s just an elementary definition, but it’s a very workable definition. That definition will work in physics, by the way.

You know a real good rage is an interesting thing to behold. If a fellow started postulating rages on something he could probably bust agreements which other people had hanging on it. Let’s say he levered a rage at the window and everybody has still got hold of that window, and it’s a window, and they’ve all postulated and so forth, there’d be such a kickback from the window that they’ll say rumph, and the window will go kablam – there’d be no window. This is how you produce sudden shocks in MEST.

What is the space of… what is the space of an electric motor? The space of an electric motor would be two things: the viewer’s – the viewer could consider himself at point of origin and space would be his dimensional set-up, see – I mean he’d be at point of origin looking at electric motor, that would put the electric motor at coordinate point one in the viewer’s space. Now he could look at it just exactly in reverse. We could say the electric motor is a point of origin and the viewer is at coordinate point one. And the viewer is using the electric motor’s space in which to view the electric motor. Yeah, we could do that.

All right, what then is the first… first requisite on this motion? Space. And what is the first requisite of motion? Is that you can shift postulates about anchor points. That’s the first requisite, that you can shift postulates about anchor points. That gives you real anchor points and that then you can observe something shifting in relationship to anchor points.

Now, we could go further than that. We could say: The viewer is at origin point and the electric motor as a coordinate point one. But the electric motor and the viewer are both viewable because of the existence of an unknown, get that, unknown coordinate point.

Now the essential step there is of course to perceive that something is changing in relationship to the anchor points. You postulate it’s here, and then you postulate it’s there and then you postulate it’s over here. What are you doing when you’re doing that? You’re saying, „It’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there.“ Look at that thing vibrate.

Of course, neither the viewer nor the electric motor would be viewing with own space and therefore would not be viewing with any great clarity. Get that unknown. All you have to tell somebody and convince them of, is that it’s unknown. There’s a fellow by the name of Herbert Spencer, old favorite of mine. He talks about the knowable and the unknowable. Well, that’s just great. Any time you say that this thing is unknowable, you postulate that somebody has postulated it already, and then you don’t know what he postulated.

Now, this apparently and obviously requires time, doesn’t it? Because what did you say? Time? What’s time? Well – time – well, you’ve got a watch, haven’t you? Says in the old axioms, a single arbitrary is time. Uh-huh, this MEST universe for homo sapiens has as its arbitrary time. Because he’d made time an unknown thing which can be given… experienced only secondarily, and he’s sort of agreed that this is what it is.

That would be all there would be to the unknowable. I’ll go over that again. The unknowable, the unknowable would mean that somebody knows that somebody has postulated something, but this person doesn’t know what that somebody else postulated. And then that the individual himself is willing to make a postulate, that he will now never know what the other individual has postulated.

Now in order to have motion you’ve got to put into existence two anchor points, and you’ve got to have a shift of dimension. Well, when you have two anchor points, you can say those things exist without dimension, but that isn’t very handy.

All knowledge is, is a series of postulates. Now, anything can work out from these postulates, so when you say something is unknowable you have to go through that… that complete complexity of conditions. You’ve got… you’ve got to postulate that something exists to be known and that then nothing can be known about it. Big trick.

So let’s put something with its own dimension there and certain solidity so if somebody runs into it they’ll know it’s there. Let’s make sure that’s there. Now when we get something shifting there let’s say it has a certain unenterability and let’s get it shifting real good, right to the left, left to the right, right to the left, left to the right. Now let’s get that going real good. Now we got that.

All right, let’s look how that applies here to point of origin. We have to postulate that this universe, uh… work as it does, we have to postulate that there is a point of origin and that is unknown. And, furthermore, when you start a preclear working, one of the first things your preclear does is run into the postulate that he can’t know because somebody else has made a postulate, now he can’t know what that postulate was. That he’s running across an unknowable. You’re running across the fact that the preclear is certain that if he knows something it will blow up.

All the time, by the way, we’re sitting there watching it and being very surprised, very, very surprised that uh… and affected and amused by all that action that’s taking place that we don’t have anything to do with it. We’re not doing that, no, no. We’re doing that with complete agreement, so we put an object there.

Or if a mystery is exposed the power will be gone in it. Ah, ah, true, true, if a mystery is exposed, the power will be gone in it. The uh… whole principle of the unknowable though and the unknown and the „We’ve got to know but it doesn’t exist,“ and that sort of thing depends mostly upon the confidence that somebody else can make a more powerful postulate than yourself.

Now what’s this object? This object is a particle. It has an unenterability of a certain dimension of the space which we’re dimensionalizing and that is a particle. That’s very simple. This particle could be a sheet, a cube, a lightning bolt, anything you want to put it there. Hut let’s say a particle. And let’s get this particle being first, second, third, fourth, so that there’s an order of position.

All right, if you believe that other people can make much more powerful postulates and they’re in full control of their minds and situation at all times, why, you of course have set yourself up a continuing and continual unknown.

Now we could go first, second, third, fourth, just agreeing that there’s an interval of sh… shift. Unless we’ve got a solid agreement on an interval of shift, unless we’ve got that one, nobody will ever see anything travelling at the same speed, and we couldn’t have that.

You see, that doesn’t happen to be true at all. You get up into the telepathy bands some time and find the postulates other people are making around you. „Let’s see, will I have chocolate or vanilla? Well, let’s see, the waitress looked at me rather hard when I said „chocolate,“ so I guess I think I’d better take vanilla, but I don’t like vanilla. But then you can’t ever have what you like anyway, so the best thing to do is – probably they haven’t got vanilla anyway – well, I won’t order it.“

So let’s get that thing and then you can shift it to one, two, three, four, as positions. And then you could shift it to positions as I’m going to write as follows up here on the board, and your shift of positions would be first one… positions one, two, three, four – notice this is in relationship that you’re seeing it, by the way, to those two anchor points up there.

Yes, indeed, there are much more powerful postulates around than both you and me.

And uh… so then we could… we could do this change, we could do this change, this uh… in two ways. We could say one, two, three, four, or we could say one, two, three, four, or we could say one, two, three, four, or one, two, three, four, or one, two, three, four. And that last one, two, three, four all piled up on each other there would make it look like it was standing still, or that it wasn’t there, which it isn’t in the first place.

All right, don’t get confused about this viewpoint of dimension. We could go much further into this, but that’s about all we got there. We got a viewpoint of dimension. That’s a very simple way to view this.

All right. So you ever see anything do this? You ever see anything vibrate broadly and then narrow and speed its vibration and then narrow and speed its vibration until it’s practically standing upright and vibrating like the dickens?

You say it’s down there that-a-way, there’s a point and there’s a distance between myself and that point. There’s a dimension between myself and that point. It’s a very interesting thing that the meter is a metal rod of certain length which resides in Paris. That’s a meter. It isn’t even the number of something or others, uh… it isn’t even the number of something or others as a hemisphere, uh… yards, or something of that sort. It’s some equidistant point on the equator. The French tried to make it this and they sent a big expedition down to Equador to measure all this and then they flubbed it up, and so the meter doesn’t mean that.

Well, now it’s… it’s going to shock you sometime to find out how fast you really think because you don’t think measured against time. And when you think your time against MEST time as such, running a clock or something in the MEST universe, you’re going to be flabbergasted to find out that you’re thinking brrrp. And you’ve just thought out this whole book. Or you say brumm and there it all is. Oh heck, you… you can do that and you’ve got a condition… you’ve got a condition… you can go brrrp and you’ve got a condition. Well, you’ve got a condition – that’s very interesting, isn’t it? You’ve got a condition. There it is. Very interesting.

It could have been circumference, something to do with the circumference of Earth, but they missed it by enough to make it unworkable, unusable. So, uh… it… it is really a length of a piece of metal at a certain temperature which is in Paris.

You want to sit there with nothing else to pick up your interest? Time is for the purposes of interest. Time is made to interest one. So we get time to be a particle, a motion, an object. Now look it, don’t… don’t… don’t get too slippy on this. Time is not, definitely not, at any moment, anything as silly as a change of motion in space. That is not time.

What is a yard? Well, a yard is the length of a… of a… of a… something in England, uh… that’s a yard. There’s this down… there’s a couple of these things have been duplicated down here at the Bureau of Standards, US Bureau of Standards, and they are kept down there in cages, so that they won’t get out and measure people. And… and they’re… that’s… that’s… that’s feet and yards and meters and so forth. All right, that’s what they are.

To say that there’s time and then to describe an action of space and particle and your postulates and then say, „Well, there’s time“ is to put out a weird sort of a thing that some kind of an unknown thing that goes on that we don’t want to know anything about. So that compares immediately to something on the automaticity scale. Not wanting to know in order to produce randomity. Time is… is the object, call this particle an object. Sounds awfully strange, doesn’t it? Time is an object. Call this particle an object, call anything which becomes solid as a result of that as an object, call any energy flow which is a whole particle or made up of particles, whichever way you want to look at it – call that whole energy flow an object, or call any section of it an object. But let’s kind of use the word OBJECT. There’s a good reason for this. It’s an object; because you can change a person’s time sense and time beingness and alter his time just with objects.

Now it’s a funny thing, you just take it for granted that those things exist and if you went down there what would you have to do? You’d say, „Let’s… let’s look… look, let’s see now, this… this goes from this distance over here, from this viewpoint of dimension over here to this viewpoint of dimension with relationship to me. That’s what your view of it says.

So let’s divide this thing up for clarity of thinking in order to compare it to experience as an object… objects. Let… let’s… let’s class… let’s forget about the clocks and their hands going around in circles for a moment and see this as an object, and the chair as an object and the place as an object and so forth. And there is a lot of change of space matched up in each one of these things on which you’re agreeing like mad. It’s really… you’ve got no idea how bright you are. Why, you’re so bright that you can keep all these postulates running simultaneously. That’s brilliant!

You say it looks from this viewpoint of dimension to this viewpoint of dimension and it exists in space which has been postulated from a point of origin by a fellow by the name God or Johnson or somebody. I mean, they’re just that foggy on it. They… they wou… you would say, „Space, well, they…“

Well, let’s… let’s… let’s take a look at this now and let’s take a whole lot of objects. Let’s take a great big pile of objects. Let’s not do anything with the coordinate points, the anchor points for those objects. Let’s just take that great big pile of objects. Now unless you come along and do something about them or unless they’re motivated to have something done to them, or unless internally something will happen to these objects, there’s no change.

First thing they tell you, „God is everywhere.“ Rrrrr. You mean we can’t have any of our own space in this universe because that’s all God’s space. That’s the neatest trick of the universe. That’s been perpetuated for 76 trillion years. You think that’s new?

And if you were to walk in there according to the MEST universe time of 1200 and take a look at that pile of objects and you were to walk in there in the year 2000 and take a look at those pile of objects and there was no change. You were there in 1200, and when you went in there at 2000, you were there at 1200. Well, when you went in there at 1200, you were there at the year 2000. See, it doesn’t matter a doggone. It doesn’t matter when you came in that area, that space, and examined the objects; if there’s no corrosion, no loss of the object, you’ve always got the same time. You never have anything else, but the same time for those objects.

It’s all somebody else’s space so you be careful what you put into it. And you be careful what you take out of it, but the only thing you ever see which is the most mysterious thing to you, the most mysterious thing is all you ever see; if you were going to look at the standard meter, you would see that it existed from this far maybe to your left to that far to your right. Or you could go around to the end of it and look down along the length of it and say, „It exists from this point here out there. There it is.“ Or if you, your… your visio was pretty good, instead of seeing with MEST eyes, why, you just turn around to the thing and you’d say, „Well, it goes from a certain distance from here out that-a-way to there.“

You have a change of object out in the environment beyond this space by which you can judge whether or not… you’ve got an alteration of anchor points, postulates shifting for your own interest, out here in the anchor points of the environment, and you’ve got this big pile of stuff there. Now you say it went from the year 1200 to the year 2000 not because they changed – no change. You… they had just duration. There’s no change; that’s duration, that’s also matter. All right.

Well, if you were to lie down on a bench and take a look at this meter, you’d say, „Well, it goes from a certain distance below my feet.“ And now if you turn around on the bench you’d say that you went from a certain distance from my head, that’s all the same meter. You’ll notice it keeps occupying different points in space.

But you could go out here in the environment and you could go around and… and you get… you… you… you postulate you’ve got a Ford and you postulate you’ve got a building, you postulate you’ve got a moustache, and you postulate you now have a family. And you got this and you got that and you got this and you got that and you got this and you will have this and you won’t have this and something else this and that, and so forth, and this whole cycle goes along for an awful long time, and then you come back and take a look at this room. There’s no change, but you know it’s been a long time. Not because anything happened in the room, but because something happened on a broader set of anchor points. Only when you make a broader set of anchor points for observation and include that room in them, is there any change in that room.

Well, it’s an awfully neat trick of you to be able to do this because you see you’re viewing it all the time from a point of origin which you don’t know about and you don’t own. You want to keep that firmly in mind all the time you’re looking at that meter. That it exists, it exists from a viewpoint that is being viewed all the time.

Timelessness is an apathy and time itself is an apathy. Timelessness merely means something that endures across long spans of time. That’s silly – something that endures across long… one is a long span of time.

That’s why, somebody’s got his eye on you. Viewpoint of origin, that’s what we’ve got here. And all these things I’ve been saying, you got an X Y Z coordinate there. Now there’s no reason at all why we can’t have space that looks this way. That’s the Z coordinate and that is the uh… Y coordinate and that is the X coordinate and this is the G coordinate. And back this-a-way – we get more complicated space now. Back this-a-way from the point of origin we always have a spiral. And that’s twisted space when viewed backwards from the point of origin. This would merely be a fixed point of origin, a more fixed viewpoint – you would say the forward look in this space gives you this picture and objects which are in that conform to that pattern and are distorted to that degree and back of this there is a negative viewpoint and everything just all sort of twists away.

The Egyptian pyramids obviously have changed. They are not timeless. You could measure the amount of change of the Egyptian pyramids. People came along and took that nice marble facing off of them and built doorsteps and privies and things out of them, and did different beautiful things with them. That’s a fact, they did, and the desert sands came up and hit them and corroded them and blew them away. There are big nicks in them and the space of the… space of the Sphinx has all corroded; there’s been a change there. We know they are changed. But if those things existed as the day they were built with the same condition as the day they were built, we’d walk back there and it might as well be the 3500 years ago as now.

Once upon a time you probably made a lot of experiments with this sort of thing. The space is terribly interesting in that it is, uh… well, this, by the way, this is, by the way, uh… torsional G space. And that is… it would be the general viewpoint, I’m sure, taken by the torsional people.

The more solid apathy is… you see, apathy can be this no motion apparency. It’s an all motion which has no space to operate in, all postulated, all collapsed on itself. We have, then, an object.

You’ve seen contortionists, well, they’re… they’re operating in that kind of space. Now… now, here, this is… this is very solid mathematics. Somebody cores along to you, and he says, „Oh, that fourth dimension, that’s very mysterious stuff.“ It sure is.

We’ve got duration. We have duration. Mostly because another guy, some poor little weak guy can’t come along and take a look at them and say, move this way, move that way, move this way, move that way, and they get all changed. No, sir, these exist on changeless postulates. They’ve been agreed upon so hard and so thoroughly and so carefully that nobody can come up and in a few little weak postulates alter them. There’s no time there. Things would stop.

You know, you could have fourth dimension that was a twist, a spiral, just like this, existing in an X Y Z coordinate. You could say, „Well, that’s time.“ Oh boy, how far fouled up can we get? I mean, time is really the fourth dimension, after all. Now let’s make it a little more unknown and say that although all the space of the MEST universe is from the viewpoint of origin, let’s… let’s be very careful now to say at the same time that this space is from the viewpoint of origin.

Now if that existed, only on its own anchor points, there’d be no time. The place might as well be empty on its own anchor points. It’s empty on its own anchor points; it’s full of matter on its own anchor points, you still have no sensation of time, until you put a particle in there.

Time happens to come from another viewpoint of origin. And if time comes from this other viewpoint of origin, you get motion created elsewise and uh… time actually comes from S… from uh… Saturn, everybody knows that, and time is space. When they say time is the fourth dimension they’re saying time is space. Oh, oh no, time can’t be space because time is one of the dependencies for motion, and space, and matter, and energy.

So let’s just forget about this slippy, stupid word TIME, let’s forget about that and let’s get change of position. Now that’s theoretically the definition of it. And the only reason we’re interested in this is not interested in it from a physics standpoint even remotely. They’ve been too long running around in that squirrel cage. Going round and round and round, space is time is MEST is a particle is space is time is MEST is a… I mean we’re… space, time, energy, these three things are related. Related, hell! There’s no difference except in terms of experience. And the second we put these things in terms of experience we can handle the problem in processing. And that’s all we’re interested in. You just say, anytime time factor comes up, you just say have and have not, and you’ve got it. Sounds awful simple, but, boy, the case is just ripped to pieces on this one.

So time can’t be space, not fourth-dimensional space nor eighty-eight dimensional space, nor contortional space, nor G space nor anything else. You see, it couldn’t be space, because space can be postulated in any way, shape or form.

Essentially, by test, if you will treat an engram which is held in present time as something which a person still will have or is trying desperately to have not, you have the essential ingredient of time and it’s present time for him. And that’s what brings your engram into present time.

Now there… here’s an interesting space over here. Uh… this, by the way, is figure two, this torsional G space. Uh… here we have over here, we have three-dimensional time. Now, I want you to watch this on three-dimensional time.

Your engram is in present time because the person still wants it and hasn’t got the actual object, so he takes the picture of the object. Guys are always packing around little pictures. They can’t have the object itself, so they’ve got a picture of the object. That’s a facsimile and all that a facsimile is, actually… they know they can’t have the object, they haven’t got sense enough to make it again right there; besides this would overrule the law of scarcity and so… so they… they… they… they carry this little picture of the object around and that’s permitted in the MEST universe.

Uh… three-dimensional time works this-a-way. Now this is linear time out this way, and it’s going where this arrow is pointing. Now, linear time from viewpoint AB moves forward and goes to second A prime S prime. Follow this very carefully. Uh… this goes forward to viewpoint A prime prime and BB prime prime. That’s really what time is. I… I hope you’re paying attention to this; that’s really what time is, because there’s always from each one of these coordinates a sideways time.

But all of a sudden you’ll… you’ll open up the preclear’s track a little bit and you’ll take a look and for heaven’s sakes here is… here is 8000 B.C. and 5 trillion years ago and so forth all there together. Well, he’s had enough change that he more or less estimates – because of what?

Now it’s obvious that there is such a thing as sidewise time for this good reason: There’s sidewise time because something happens simultaneously to somebody else someplace else right this minute that you didn’t know about. Isn’t that true?

Planets alter. The havingness of a sun, determined by some prior set of postulates, the havingness of a sun is scheduled. And the havingness of a sun is scheduled. The sun is as long as it has, as far as a… as a… has what? Has change. And if it doesn’t have any change it might as well not be there, because it isn’t going to emanate any light or isn’t going to do any other thing as far as you’re concerned. You can readily tell the kind of matter that isn’t supposed to emanate so you… you say it won’t emanate and it doesn’t.

There was somebody had something else that you didn’t know about, something happened to him simultaneously that you were here. Isn’t that right? All right, now, if that’s the case, that’s the case, there’s such a thing as sidewise time, obviously. It might be called simultaneous time, you see how simple that is? So there’s such a thing as simultaneous time, that’s sidewise time.

Now, let’s… let’s be very specific about this, then, in terms of energy. Now I don’t care which one of these energies is which. There’s two energies.

And now… now when you get sidewise time, that would be known as G-Q and G-Q, uh… G prime, Q prime. I hope you’re following this very closely because this is very important here. Uh… you see, that goes forward and that shows you immediately that this linear time which is to point K, that’s linear time that’s going out here from origin point, this is for figure three uh… out here from origin point out to K is linear time, so you’ve got that.

I mean, just might as well go round the other way and call the minus the other one and so on. There’s the have and have not energy. And there’s stuff which you approach and that says, „Have me.“ It really does sort of say, „Have me.“ You can… you’ve got an idea that that’s the kind of motion that should be in this environment and those space coordinates and so you, „Have me.“ It has… sets right there. That’s very good.

Well now, you’ve got to be able to stand up in time, haven’t you? Time isn’t just hitting you in the stomach or something like that. It’s hitting you in the head, in the feet at the same time. They’re aging simultaneously, aren’t they? Well, sure they are, they… they’re absolutely aging simultaneously and you look at almost anybody and you can tell that’s so, so obviously there is vertical time which is measured by this coordinate.

Now there’s the kind that says, „Don’t have me“ and these two things get together and they go flick flick flick flick flick flick flick across and you get randomity.

Now, in other words, there’s a sheet of time moving forward through space, and that makes it obvious that there’s a sheet which is merely following this sheet so that all three of these sheets are coming forward at the same time, A’ to B, A, prime, B prime, air. Those coordinate shields and so forth in time are sweeping forward simultaneously.

Let’s take the animal kingdom. The animal kingdom rushes around with two thoughts in mind: „I’ve gotta have“ and „I don’t want to be had.“ That’s all; that’s what appetite is.

And after we get through living this moment, it being rather secondhand, somebody comes along right afterwards and lives through this moment. Well, that demonstrates conclusively, actually, I’m making more sense up here than a physics professor does.

Your engrams break down immediately into those two classifications: the engrams „I’ve gotta have“ and the engrams „I don’t want to have“. So there’s two haves. There’s a „have“ engram and a „have not“ engram. The trouble is, with a have not engram the fellow has lost his ability to have not. He no longer is able to say „I won’t have it.“ And so of course anything he says, „I won’t have it“ to, why, that’s gotta say „l have… have not.“ And it will back off and then stay in suspension.

Now this is grand 0. And this is grand Z, and this is grand… grand Y and this is grand X. Now those things can exist then from any point of origin inside the coordinates of origin, can’t they? Now there are eight coordinates of origin so that demonstrates conclusively that there must be linear lines of K at any time there and at all points of origin so that demonstrates that there’s an infinity of time which is running linearly in all directions.

It’s right there; he can’t run it either because it’s… it’s ready to punch him all the time. He says, „I don’t want this,“ therefore he says, „I’m not responsible for this, so therefore it keeps hitting me and I keep creating it, but it keeps hitting me and here it is right here and it’s knocking hell out of me and therefore I don’t want it.“ And the harder it hits him the more he says „I don’t want it,“ and the more he says „I don’t want it,“ of course, the more it’s a have not. And the more it’s a have not the more it kicks him because he… he owns it less, so we have a standpoint that’s horrible.

Therefore you have… you have three-dimensional time and three-dimensional space, which obviously give you in its various coordinates the fact that there are… there are coordinates of this space which have partially negative time and partially positive time and which are going in opposite directions at the same time. That demonstrates there’s an infinity of universes and coordinates and that somewhere in this universe there is a viewpoint of origin and if you went beyond that you would find one of the factors of time negatively; you’d wind the clocks backwards or something of the sort.

So you have big fish flying around in the ocean and they say, „Gotta have, gotta have, gotta have, gotta have.“ And all the little fish fly around in the ocean and they say, „Have me not, have me not, have me not, have me not.“ And the more they say „Have me not,“ the more the big fish say, „Gotta have, gotta have, gotta have,“ till the fisherman comes along and he says, „I gotta have“ and there goes the big fish. At that moment the big fish has changed his postulate and suddenly says, „Have me not, have me not, have me not, have me not.“

Now that we’ve made it very clear to you we will go on. You see how silly you can get when it comes to saying time is space. When you… every time you say time is space, you’re saying space is static and time moves, so you could say space is a static sort of viewpoint that just stays there all the time and then time moves through this in some fashion or another. Boy, that’d be wonderful, wouldn’t it?

So we… we get a system of interdependencies along the dynamics. You ought to trace that out just for your own edification. It’s the cycle or series of „have me’s“ and „have me not’s“, plotted against the cycle of creation, destruction, plotted against the cycle of action, plotted against the cycle of sensation which finally wi… and plotted against the cycle of experience. All these things plot together and you find out time is an object. Now there’s two kinds of objects, there is have objects and have not objects.

Well, let’s look at something a little more actual with regards to space. Now, I’m… I’m glad you got all those points. And I hope you get a good note on there because the actuality is that the mind runs in torsional G space. Oh, in all psychology departments it runs in torsional G space and that’s why they get so twisted.

Now what to you find in the preclear? The preclear is always saying, „I had, if I had only had, if only I had not had,“ he’s putting it in past tense. Oh, it’s not in past tense though, isn’t that horrible? He’s still got a facsimile sitting right there in present time all the time he’s saying that it’s in the past, and the more he says it’s in the past and he doesn’t want it and… and so forth, and the more he regrets it, the more he’s upset about it, why, the more he’s got it because he hasn’t got it.

Now, here’s where we have… here’s where we have a very nice pleasant thought for you. I mean, this is a quiet thought, and… and I’m… you agreed to be in this universe that there was an origin. There’s an origin for space, but you didn’t agree to be that origin, because if you agreed to be that origin, the only space… it would be you alone who would be there uh… manufacturing that space, and therefore responsible for everything in it. And you would not find that very desirable because it would be impossible for you to engage in any football games, or randomity.

So he can move his whole engram bank right up into present time by simply saying all the time, „Well, if I’d only had, the trouble was I had.“ He’s saying „had, had“ and pretending that such a thing as „had“ exists, and then all the time going on in complete agreement that he’s in present time, and then saying, well, „had“ really exists.

Well, let’s… let’s say… let’s say, then, that you say here is an origin point of space. That means there’s a viewpoint of dimension. You get this kind of a thing all the time. You say, that corner of that room goes up that way and it goes across this way and goes out that way and there’s a floor downstairs and it’s an extended line out there and that other line can extend theoretically from that corner.

You’ll find this person’s incapable of handling time. There’s a way to handle time. The way you handle time is to handle objects. If you handle objects, you’ve handled time. That’s all, too simple. That’s because time is a word which talks about the interrelationship – you see, we aren’t quite on time when we say object; but time is an interrelationship of beingness, action, and object, and the interrelationship of beingness, action, and object become themselves time.

You say, „That’s a… an origin point“. So, let’s look at you. We’ll put down here „I“ the observer and let’s put „I“ the observer here, and he… he’s at this point and let’s put him uh… there at that point. Now he’s got this kind of an idea on things. He says, „All right, now here we go. We… we’ve got a room here“, and he says, „This is origin point one or prime origin prime prime, origin point prime prime prime and origin point four.“ Now there’s… there he’s got those.

Uh… you’re going to flounder with this for a while; there’s hardly a homo sapiens alive that can grab on to time. You can make time happen brrrr, or you can make time happen pocketa, pocketa, pocketa, practically at will.

Now he pins down and postulates four origin points. He can pin down and postulate eight origin points. He knows that if he was in that point and viewed that area what he would see from that point. So he can – he also knows how these things are modified one way or the other.

Do you know in the last instant before you hit bottom, that a lot of time can occur? It’s the degree you’re trying to have that makes a lot of time. Just get that – the degree you’re trying to have is what creates time. So you’ve got this urge to have.

So he says, „Look at this room, there are four origin points, there are eight origin points, it doesn’t matter. There can be an origin point for every dot on that acoustic shielding up there“, but he… he knows what these origin points are; he’s accustomed to that as viewpoint because he’s been around himself and looked, so he can postulate these as origin points and then he leaves himself free to be an observer.

Now you go around you find these fellows who in… oh boy, are they in bad shape, are they way down tone scale and in horrible condition. It sums up under one… one heading which has two parts, and that’s… they have this idea: „I will have and I won’t ever get.“ He’s going to be punished and he’s not going to get any good out of it. It’s in terms of havingness.

And he can then swing himself back and forth on origin points which are all around him and he can postulate that he isn’t the origin point and in that wise he goes into action. You see, if he were the origin point only of dimension, he would never be in motion himself. He would be pinned in one place and that would be the end of that; but by letting other things take the responsibility for being origin points he can shift himself around in any confined area which he himself has uniformly postulated.

His future is in terms of havingness. If you cut off a man’s havingness he has no future. I mean, if you cut off all of his havingness his future’s done and that is the one condition about death – as far as the current lifetime and combination of homo sapiens, thetan and so forth, it’s the end of havingness. About the only thing he ever has that he’s really sure of – he’s got a body. And he knows he will have the body and so he sort of sticks on a time track. And he sticks on it like mad. He does everything he could do to stick on this time track, and it’s a very slippy job. Actually trying to stay on a MEST time track for a person who’s fairly aberrated is like walking a very, very high tightwire with greased shoes.

Now he has been in agreement in one lifetime, he’s in agreement since childhood, with origin points. Origin points? He knows what origin points the family made; he knows what origin points he himself has made. Well, there was a time in his life when he was so careless about this and he knew so little about it – he’d never taken the anatomy of it apart – origin points would shift all over the place on him.

You get your psychos and so forth. A psycho will come around and he will hand you a moment, and you try to take a phrase away from him and he will finally give it to you. And I’ve had them reach in their pockets for it and hand it over. Phrase is an object.

All you got to do is feed somebody some hashish, by the way, and, boy, do his origin points go by the boards. He becomes sufficiently non compos mentis to be unable to control the origin points of any area or postulate origin points of view.

People who are pretty well down tone scale, words and symbols are objects, they’re not thoughts anymore, they’re objects. And these people are so literal with words. You… you tell them rrrrr and so on and so on and so on, and you give them this idea and he says, „Now wait a minute. Now what word did you use?“.

I just talked as though they existed, they exist for him. He’s… he becomes unable to control and postulate the origin points of any area. And if he does that, he gets distortional shapes of things. He… he lies down on the bed and the bed is 18 miles high. It is 87 miles to the door, the corridor is one inch long. He gets this kind of upset because it throws him out of „orientation“ – so what is orig… orientation?

And it’s just as though they were sorting over a pile of rubble, you have suddenly changed a word. It offends them somehow. The… you… you use maybe a colloquialism or something like that, and, boy, they’re upset about this. It’s really hit them.

Orientation is the principle here of being able to have an „0“ moving – that’s origin point in motion. „I“ is the origin point in motion. „I can be here, then… or second point uh… origin point motion two or it can be over here – origin point motion three, this is origin point motion one. Now that… he could be at this… this here two, three, you see, he apparently is in motion.

You wouldn’t be so upset with them if you realized that you had probably driven a bullet into them or something of the sort. The thought is the object because the person is in such bad shape that they can only think as an object. They are an object and their thoughts are objects, and they are objects, and they’re getting more objects every minute, and they’ll get pretty upset about it after a while because they realize that they’re on their way out.

All he’s got to do is keep shifting these origin points and other people have agreed these origin points and coincided with their agreement with him so he can keep shifting these things in accordance and in viewpoint of everybody else.

Now what’s havingness. Havingness. Have and have not. Positive- negative terminals, so you get this positive- negative randomity as explained by the interaction between haves and have nots. So you get this in the political scene. Let’s just apply it in one time; that would be the most familiar thing to you.

Here on Earth he knows how to shift his origin points according to this society. This is one of the things he had to learn in order to know how to walk, fall, talk, anything else. That’s the first thing he had to know and that’s the first principle of education, is you have to learn origin points.

There are the haves and there are the have nots, aren’t there? And they fight all the time. And the big joke is that the have nots are really the haves and the haves are really the have nots. The haves have no liberty, they condensed all their space and the have nots have got freedom because they haven’t got any space. They’re not troubled by objects.

If you learn the principle of points of origin and that’s an origin of dimension, that’s a… an origin point is just a viewpoint of dimension, you understand, so when we say „origin“, we merely mean viewpoint of dimension.

The haves are trying to keep having, that is, hold on to, and the have nots are trying to procure. So your progressives are usually found down along the level of the revolutionaries, or is that up along the level of the revolutionaries?

He’s got to be able to postulate their existence instantaneously in order to perceive, and if he’s learned how to do that properly then he as X has four, six, ten thousand points of reference which he handily has nailed down, pinned down, and he knows they’re not going to move around and it gives him a feeling of security.

That rich man tries to buy duration, tries to buy duration, and he gets duration all right; he turns into MEST. That’s why the rich man can’t go through the eye of the needle: his ridges. These ridges are haves, and a person has ridges to the direct degree that they are upset about have and have not, in direct ratio; and they are stuck on the time track to the degree and the exact degree, and their time is unable to be handled to the degree, that they are upset about have and have not.

If you want to give your preclear a fantastic feeling of security, start picking up his origin points and moving them around. Now I’ll give you an example of that.

They can have or if they could get the idea that they will have in the future, all of a sudden their track will free up and they’ll run like gazelles on it. But they’re sitting there with the idea they can’t have but they have had but they’re trying to hold on to, and you can get ahold of them and put your foot against their chest and pull on the ridges and have them snap back and go booong. And you try to pull out the tractor beams, and get alongside of that and so on and they go bing-bong and go right back into place again.

Shut your eyes, shut your eyes and take the upper corner… oh, pardon me, open your eyes again, look at that upper corner of that room over there. Okay, now shut your eyes again. Now move that corner, postulate that corner out into the middle of the room, now put it back where it was in the first place, now let’s move it out into the middle of the room again. Now let’s put it back there and let’s look over to the other side here of the stage and let’s look at that origin point over there. That’s a postulated origin point.

You can’t take anything away from this person. You’re trying to run an engram. You’re trying to get him to… get rid of a little energy. He isn’t going to be able to do it. He can’t get… do it because he can’t have, can he? Well, therefore, he’s got to hold on to it, hasn’t he? And those… those things are all have nots, aren’t they? So he can’t touch anything that doesn’t want to be had because he can’t use any force, can he? Because he hasn’t any space to orient against, and you say, „Run out that engram.“ And he’ll say, „What engram?“ Well he… and you think, „Christsakes!“

Now close your eyes. Now take both of these origin points and bring ‘em slowly together just up above my head. Interesting feeling, isn’t it? Put them back where they belong. The second you do that it leaves some people sitting outside. It leaves some people no place.

The fellow keeps walking around all the time saying, „I’ve got to get rid of it, I’ve got to get rid of it. Well, I’ve just got to get rid of it. I wonder why I worry all the time about knitting needles, knitting needles, knitting needles? I’ve got to get rid of it.“ And he’s just walking around. He looks like he’s in a prenatal and there he is.

All right, now shut your eyes again and take that origin point and move it over uh… to your right about four feet and then back again. Move it over about four feet and back again. Now take these two forward origin points on the roof and move them both over four feet simultaneously to the right and then back over about to four feet to the left and then just move them back and forth, back and forth, till you get a sensation of motion.

You start to ask him to give up this prenatal, he’d probably start reaching and looking through his pockets when you start talking to him about an engram. He uh… he… he’d be unable to conceive that he was dramatizing, that’s why; it’s cause and he’s effect.

Isn’t that interesting? Well, that’s what motion is. It is, isn’t it? You… you can experience that. And uh… one of the first things you want to… want to show your preclear… want to show your preclear is something like that. He… he’ll have an idea then what motion is, better than anything else you can tell him.

So way up at the top of the tone scale, the individual is cause and as he dwindles down from beingness through action to having, he becomes more and more an effect of what he has.

Motion, all he’s… all you’ve got to do for motion is just keep shifting OM-1 up here back and forth, up and down, back and forth. Well, how do you do that? It’s just by repostulating origin 1, origin 2, origin 3, origin 4. You just keep postulating those and you know how the society thinks and you’re in agreement with the society and you know how this universe is and you’re in agreement with that. And you’ve learned all these things very arduously, there’s some universe race out there, the darn fools, which have postulated that it’s only four inches across one galaxy. And, of course, if they postulated they only have to shift that particle across one galaxy and they’d never get a chance to look at it because the galaxy is too small. And yet if you want to go from one corner – assuming it has a corner – of this universe to another corner of this universe, all you have to do is take a very, very clear view of some origin point, postulate it, take a clear view of another origin point, postulate it and shift. Just move those origin points and you’re there. That’s space.

That person’s span of life is freest where they have the least and expected the most, and became most stultified and ruined the time when they finally procured. And their instant of procurance is their instant of no time from there on. Your one-five who was holding on, holding on, holding on like mad, he’s holding on to the arthritis, holding on to Little Bessie, holding on to this, holding on to that, isn’t going to get loose of anything and so forth, and he’s going to destroy it, but isn’t going to… no motion, no motion, no mo… what do… what do you find in this person? Boy, anything that comes near him, just hits up against the body like a magnet. It goes spoing – thug. You run down, you get rid of this engram, you run this one-five through this engram, you run him through this engram from one side to the other all the way through the thing. You say, uh… „Well, let’s go through it again.“ They go all the way through the thing again, and you say, „How’s it feel?“

That’s the most fundamental thing about teleportation. You’ve agreed on the origin points for everything else because you’ve agreed so hard. Well, you’re never going to get a solid object to move as long as you continue in complete agreement that you will never change the origin points of an environment.

„No change.“

It’s just as though you went down and swore your boy scout oath. And, and, and uh… gave your pledged word as a knight, that you would never at any time disagree with the rest of the society on what the origin points were. We have a… corners of a room. Look how standard they are for every… corners of a room, floors, ceilings, roofs of buildings, ground levels of buildings, and that would be anything from a Nipa hut straight on through to skyscrapers. Uh… that there is a center to every cube – you’ve agreed that. And that these things can be movable in or not movable in. You can move in ‘em or not move in ‘em. It’s very upsetting to a preclear to find himself sailing through walls for the first time. Well, he’s just… he’s just postulated that you can’t move in that area.

„Let’s go all the way through it again…“ You’re not going to get anyplace with this, that’s all.

Now in order to perceive motion, all you have to do… well, we’re in the subject of motion right away. All you have to do is perceive motion – and we will have uh… point uh… N here as uh… as uh… uh… an origin to point N as an origin, point NO-1 as an origin… All right, observe from… from ON-1 here, now let’s… uh… let’s… let’s look at this chair. Take a good look at this chair. Now this is point uh… NO, it’s point NO right this minute. Now we’ll move it over here to point NO-1. Now it’s at point NO, NO-1.

You’ve got to get into this to a point where they can change. You’ve got to find someplace they can change, because they haven’t got any time and they haven’t got any time because they own all possession. And it’s all have not possession. And if they got all this have not possession and some have possession, they have to hold on to the have possession and that makes them hold on to the have not possession. And the first doggone thing you know, what’s the first thing a one-five tells you? He says, „I’ve got no time. I have no time for that.“ And you’ll see him sitting there at his office desk, hour after hour after hour. I mean, „I haven’t got any time for it. I’m awfully rushed, I’m so busy.“ He’ll look at you rather sadly and sigh wheezily, „I have no time for anything.“ There he is – he’s got no time for anything. That’s perfectly true. He’s got no time; he’s just so upset on the idea of time, his haves and have nots are so intermingled and balanced he can’t do anything about it.

Look at that chair now. Okay, shut your eyes and move that chair. Shift it from point NO, now to point NO-1. Just from NO-1 back to NO. Now shift it from NO to NO-1. Now get to shifting it so fast that it’s a blur. Did you make that chair move back and forth for yourself? That’s motion.

From there on down he tries to get rid of possessions. A one-one tries to kick possessions away and get the hell out of there because he knows he’s in death. Now a one-one will destroy possessions covertly and try to get rid of them, push them aside, they won’t leave him. He hasn’t enough command value to do that. Your one-one, he starts to kick this engram through and he will sort of reach down to the side and move it over to the side and say, „Yeah, I’m all rid of that. Yep, yep, I ran that. I ran that“ – the end of the session he takes his foot off of it and it goes spoing and he’s got it again.

„It becomes a solid block“.

You say, „What’s the matter with you today, I thought we ran that out yesterday.“

„Ummm?“

„Oh, we did.“

„It becomes a solid block“.

Huh? There it is.

„Yes, it’s true, it becomes a solid block. Thank you.“

Their time. What happens to a one-one’s time? Boy, time is the master. Everything is an effect. He’s an effect to everything.

You’ve said that this point of you is shifting and in view of the fact the point of view is shifting, it’s unoccupiable. You get anything that’s shifting that fast, becomes unoccupiable and you finally say, „That is solid“.

Well, now maybe you’ll understand this a little better on this scale. On this scale, 40.0 is beingness. This is in terms of experience. 40.0 is beingness. Now there can be beingness and individuality above 40.0 but space is one trick of beingness. And beingness in this universe is space anchor points coordinates. And that is beingness. And the most beingness a person could be would be determined upon the most space the person could embrace. Free space postulated. Now you find your big rancheroos out in the West. They owned one hundred eighty-five thousand square miles and so forth, they were big men them days. Yeah, they sure had an idea of beingness. Space! Nothing on it at all.

Now each one of these points has a viewpoint of dimension. Each point in this chair has a viewpoint of dimension.

You go out there, you also find that the biggest liars that ever lived probably come from spaces, big spaces like that. Out in space in your space crews and things like that, the guys who are really free and have lots of space. They wouldn’t know what the heck you were talking about, if you said, „What is the truth of this?“ „Truth, there is no such thing.“

„Well, then if you shift as fast as that chair you can get inside that chair“.

Now, we get 20.0 is action. And action is energy. Energy. But the funny part of it is that 0.0 gives an interdependency of objects and beingness which amounts to action. It is very hard to get into… very hard to get into action without an object. Just get… try to get into action.

„Sure.“

By the way… way, one of the ways a fellow dramatizes this when he’s a little kid, he says all the time, he’s saying, „If I only had the gun and mask and so forth of Red Rider, then I could be…“ And he gets much older and he has the wherewithal to buy all the guns and hats of Red Rider you could possibly imagine, but what does he do? He’s… all of his childhood was spent trying to get dressed so he could play a part in the play. And all of his adulthood is spent trying to get dressed. He’s forgot that there’s any part left in the play. He isn’t prepared for anything anymore.

All right, viewpoint of dimension then can be existing from any origin point, and if you have a multiple series of origin points you can at any time get what is laughingly called matter.

So time is an object really. It’s an interaction between beingness and object that gives you action. And so it takes a full forty-to-twenty interrelationship in order to give us activity and energy. And out of this we get force and the production of force, and all of the other things in which we’re interested.

You can get uh… energy. Anything you want to say you get you can get, but the mechanics that you use are this.

Now this lower scale here is S.E.T. related to experience. E.X.P., and that experience is the human experience and in human experience space is beingness. Action is energy, and object is time. And if you want to process a person who has no time, process if… in that s… way. If you want a person to increase his energy, you have to address his beingness and his object, in other words, his space and his object.

Now, if you want to operate in five-dimensional space, it becomes very simple to simply postulate different points of origin and different complexities to these points of origin and it’s wonderful mental exercise for a preclear to start operating in five-dimensional space and do this.

So instead of processing too much space, energy and time as such, you could process beingness, action and object. Or instead of processing, as you have in the past, thoughts, beingness, object, abject, so on, so on, trying to get at it like that; you can process directly space, energy and object. Space, energy and time, because this time is just have-have not, that’s all.

He’s taken this uh… here; now he’s got 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 0-4, 0-5, and he is at X-l. And he has postulated that in any five-dimensional pentagon of that character – of course in any pentagon, you understand, there are many, many areas where nothing is there at all. You understand that. And no matter how… how much looks like it’s there, there’s just a lot of nothing there. You look at any pentagon and it’s true. So… that was a labored joke.

You can process that directly and in that wise you can straighten a preclear out and make him run like a gazelle, but you have to rehabilitate force in order to do any of it. And force of course is the middle ground, and the way you get force is space and particles, which are objects. And that is the way it is done.

All right, there’s… this bears no similarity to any buildings. Uh… we’ll just say there’s nothing in the center here. So therefore the center at all times is avoided as a point of origin. It’s all times avoided.

I’ll give you the mock-up drills in tomorrow afternoon’s lecture. Tonight we’ll be covering the axioms.

Now what are you going to get if you have X-1 and… and uh… X-1 moving to X-2? That’s all right. X-1 to X-2 in that pentagon. That will be okay, but uh… what about moving X-1 to uh… T-I? What about moving that? T is not for time; we’re just being very snide about time by using time’s sacred symbol for something else.

Let’s get a bite of supper.

Uh… X to T, well, it’s gotta follow a route like this. That right? It’s gotta go from here back through there. It’s gotta avoid that because nothing then goes through that point. All right, now what happens here when we move X-2 down here to T-2? If we moved it directly and those two things were moving you would get a flow action, whereby the X-l, T-1 flow would push out of line the X-2, T-2 flow. It would get sort of crowded in there.

It couldn’t help but get crowded because you… when you had… can’t have the shortest line, uh… a line is the shortest distance between two points, why, you’re naturally going to get a lot of lines coinciding in there someplace or another. So you get it going and get a different type of wave in that type of space; it’s going to look different, it’s going to feel different and so forth.

Sound can’t go, then, straight from X-1 to T-1; sound has to detour over here by the dotted line. So therefore sound with sound here’s bunched up so there would be a higher intensity of sound at point S. So everybody knows, who lived in that universe, everybody would know that uh… this was just an S point, and everybody would know sound got more intense at an S point. So therefore it would be a very, very good thing uh… to get a seat closer to the S point.

What do you know, over here in this figure, your previous draft uh… over here everybody knows that sound in three-dimensional space goes back here to the back wall and hits and comes forward this way and the greatest intensity of sound is here, right in the center. So this is intensity. And uh… the sound is blurred though.

There’s more sound action there at point „IN“ but it’s blurred, and your greatest sound clarity would probably be then at back „B“. Well, that’s just a freak of three-dimensional space. It is distorted because of three-dimensional space and the insistence on putting walls up in three – dimensional space and so on. And so you’d get a different type of behavior of waves only if you had pentagonal space of some sort and supposing you made a real postulated space that every pentagonal space would go over to the right as a warp here. And this warp is where you put in the furniture you don’t want. Therefore you could… you could actually train somebody who would see no motion at those points.

At that point of warp he would not make any points of origin; he would collapse a point of origin, and the furniture which was „in there“ would never be there for anybody. You could train anybody you wanted to, in other words. Just start out from scratch and train people to view things differently than they are viewing them and they would get a different universe.

They would not only get a different universe, they would not necessarily get this one at all. If you would just want to make an experiment sometime, get somebody trained to take every point, every uh… this ought to have a name on this… on this figure 1 here, 0-1 uh… 0-1 ought to be uh… called an anchor point. And just train him to have an anchor… here’s… here’s his anchor points. Anything which he ordinarily orients his scenery by would be his anchor points; without those anchor points he wouldn’t have any dimension.

He’d have to have that, uh… pardon me, he wouldn’t have any motion; he would have dimension, but if he had to use OM-1 here all the time for his origin point only and his dimensional point only, you see, he couldn’t get any… any… any motion himself. He couldn’t get into motion. He would eventually get to a point where everything… everything else moved but he didn’t. And he would see motion and freeze and, what do you know, that’s one of the commonest things you find out wrong with a preclear. He’s gotten to a point where everything else is in uncontrolled motion and so then he conceives that he can’t move. In order to control it he says, „I am these dimensions and they are running in me. And therefore I’ll stop them by not moving.“ You get that as one of the first reactions in a preclear. He sees something going fast, he stops.

The best way to anchor anything, one of the first and fundamental ways to anchor anything down is to be the viewpoint of dimension of that thing, because it is then owned. God owns the universe because he is a viewpoint of dimension.

We’ve all said that he exists, but we’ve never said where the viewpoint of dimension is and then all of us handily operate in groups and postulate viewpoints of dimension for that particular area of the universe and we’re off.

We’re all set, then we can see everything everybody else sees. We can get the same motions everybody else gets; we’ve trained ourselves to do that. It was training, agreement that does that.

Now, what about somebody who is unable to control a motion? Let’s say he is unable to control a motion. Let’s say that at OM-1 up there is out of control. There’s too much motion in there. How do you solve OM-1’s concept. of being in too frantic a motion? That’s a dispersal case, mind you.

He’s in too frantic a motion. You’ll find out… the first thing you will find out is that these corner points, these anchor points here, O-l, 0-2, 0-3, 0-4, are in vibration. He won’t pin himself down as… as something to move in relationship to these viewpoints of dimension, these anchor points, because he doesn’t dare, things always get him out of there.

They chase him out of there. So he… he’s just gotten… gotten unconfident about the whole thing and he no longer desires to have, in figure l, 0-l, 0-2, 0-3 and 0-4 to be very static. He… he doesn’t want those things to be motionless.

He wants to… he’s trying to shift the room out from underneath him on the theory that he might not be able to shift himself out of the room fast enough. Now you take a little test to that. You’ll find most of your occluded cases when you have them shut their eyes and try to hold an anchor point still. Go ahead and shut your eyes and do that. Take that anchor point over there and hold that thing still.

Don’t let it move, hold it still. Now take that in relationship to the other anchor point in this room, 0-2, and hold those things the same distance apart. And hold each one of them dead still. Don’t let ‘em shift. Any difficulty with that? All right.

What you’re doing, you see, is you’ve… you’ve already agreed that, those were static and stable and there and then you thereafter didn’t uh… uh… like that agreement and your agreement left to disaster for yourself so you had decided then that the best thing that you can do is to he kind of cautious about that agreement, and you are actually kicking sideways from that agreement and you don’t want those points to stay still and that’s why you can’t step easily out of the body and anchor up the atmosphere. You know what space is then? Viewpoint of dimension.

So you can have three kinds of space; you can have point of origin, you can have the viewpoint of dimension such as OM-1. You have… this is the big, the big point of origin down here, 0. This is mythical. Then you’ve got OM-1, and then you’ve got anchor points 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, and 0-4, so that you can get motion into OM-1. Nothing will move unless you do that. Okay, let’s take a break.