Third hour this afternoon, December the 4th, continuing this third talk on spacation. Going to go over this again very rapidly, very, very briefly and very rapidly. We are talking about, in this universe, a series of agreements as follows:

Let’s go on now as to how you use these… these points on some of these… some of this material. This is the second hour of December 4th. Now let’s go on to how we use some of these materials in auditing and why it is an apparent uh… upset to a preclear to be disoriented.

One, there is an origin point, unknown but understood. You’ve not located that origin point, you just say all this space somehow or other comes from an origin point. Now that is the first point of confusion about the MEST universe, is that there’s space all around and it must be coming from someplace and so on, which is not the case. Then there’s origin point one and that could also be origin point „I“. And that is the viewpoint of dimension, and that is the definition of space: Viewpoint of dimension, of the individual. And he looks around and he can assign viewpoints. The handiest way to do this is, of course, to simply mock up anchor points, mock up dimensions.

We’re operating, of course, from Q-1 and that says creation of uh… space, time, energy, matter, location in this. You see, if a man can’t locate himself in space and time, why, he can’t locate himself – well, he just can’t locate himself. And therefore it says he’s not theta. He’s MEST because MEST is what can’t locate itself.

And then the third thing we’re dealing with is anchor points. Now an anchor point is that point which origin „I“ assigns so that he can have dimension and motion. Now he has either assigned it or just agreed upon it, or agreed that he will assign to these understood things. It says: That is a room. A room has eight corners, therefore there are eight anchor points to a room. Every time you go in a room now you know this, there will be eight anchor points and you will accept immediately the anchor points which everybody around accepts as this room’s anchor points. Is that understood? That’s good. Now we’ve made you dependent.

Somebody always has to locate MEST. That’s why you have surveyors. MEST never has been known… a roadside rock has never been known to get up and say to you, „Hello, what’s your name? Uh… where are you going?“ Nope, never been known to. Sometimes a roadside rock says „Milestone 26,“ but somebody put that on that.

So, there’s origin I and that is a viewpoint from which one can perceive anchor points, and these anchor points actually assign dimension or boundary to space. And these anchor points are called anchor points because they’re actually used as electrodes or terminals as on an electric motor. Whenever there is motion, one holds the anchor point and perceives the motion. It’s very simple. He also perceives the anchor point, holds and perceives the anchor point and then sees something changing without those anchor points moving. You get a… at sea and you give some ensign a maneuvering board problem; you’ve got a picnic on your hands, because you’re telling him to use as origin points the center of a board which… it’s an abstract center which has no real reality, which is probably moving.

So the difference between being MEST and being theta is location in space. That’s the difference between the two things. MEST has… now when I say MEST is, I’m using our old word as to mean object, a solid object, and the space and energy and so forth which comprise such solid objects, the energy flows itself, and the space therein; I’m using just that term physical universe MEST.

And then you say, „Now look, here are three or four anchor points. Those will be the ships in the problem and these anchor points are all in motion. Now this is a maneuvering board problem. When will the anchor points coincide and crash? Or when will they rendezvous? How far do they have to go in order to get any…?“ That’s a maneuvering board problem. That’s very rough stuff.

All right, uh… when a person goes down the tone scale, that is going down from a concept of being able to locate or originate in space, originate space, down to being a chunk of something that’s been located. Now, in other words, it goes from theta, tone scale goes from theta to MEST. And, of course, MEST has always got theta in it but that… that’s beside the point.

Now, if he doesn’t have an instructor who merely wishes… if he… most instructors, you see, merely wish to obfuscate, and if he doesn’t have an instructor who wishes to obfuscate, the instructor will point out to him, „Look, it doesn’t matter how fast that origin point is moving. It is static. It’s right there in relationship to the outermost limits of the graph.“

It has gone to the point where it doesn’t do the locating but somebody locates it. And even though a piece of MEST is used for propulsion or for shoveling or for pushing or for pulling or anything like that, there’s theta directing it.

One of those graphs, simple looking affair, but uh… you’ve got anchor points which don’t move and they’re not moving at such and such a postulated rate, well, who cares? Who cares how much they’re not moving? They’re anchor points. And if you’ll just take the center of the board and the limits of the board, and then figure out everything else on the board as points in motion in relationship to these anchor points, he’s all set.

So an individual conceives himself to be as free, as knowing, as much cause as he can locate himself in space or create space. He’s so… as long as he can do that.

But if he goes at it in reverse and tries to… to figure it out that the anchor points are in motion, and the origin points are in motion too, of course he has nothing to tie any motion to, so no motion can occur and he can’t see how any motion could possibly occur and he’ll just sit there with his mouth open.

Now you get somebody out in the country and he gets lost, well, he’s not terribly lost, he can look at the vegetation and he can look at the road and he can look at things and he said, „Look, somebody with three-dimensional space on the brain built all this, I’m still here, uh… somewhere. As I just have lost the difference between my immediate new anchor points and the anchor points to which I’m accustomed and I do not know the dimension from here to the point of origin from which I normally operate. I don’t know that distance.“ And so he says he’s lost, but actually just to that degree produces the most fantastic results on an individual.

That would be the same thing if I told you the two forward… forward corners of this room – if you believed it – the two forward corners of this room uh… were moving four miles an hour to the right except the right-hand forward corner which occasionally went in a circle. And those were the only two points that you could perceive anywhere around.

You take a… a… fellow out here in the woods and there’s nothing but trees, trees, trees and all the trees look like more trees. And everything is unfamiliar, anchor points gone, and, believe me, it’s a very solid guy who doesn’t lose his head. I have seen fellows just go so pale green with… with a fear – they go right on down the tone scale. They don’t know what they’re afraid of. They haven’t any idea what they’re doing or what’s happening. And they will run aimlessly. They’ll do the strangest things: They will be very hungry and throw their pack away. They will desperately need their rifle and cartridges and throw them in the nearest creek. They will walk in circles, oddly enough. They… they seem possessed with an inability to take straight lines.

Now you were supposed to tell the velocity of something that was between those two points. I just… just wouldn’t… just be horrible. But you could do it because you’ve got one point and you could possibly plot the other point. You could stretch your minds to do this sort of thing, but it’d be an awful job.

You meet up with one of these fellows, quite ordinarily he’s in a panic. It takes a long time; a woodsman has learned to be calm in the presence of all anchor points looking like all anchor points and no dimension known to the anchor point he wants, because he knows by experience that he can still find a dimension.

Now, anchor points, then, are assigned or agreed upon points of boundary which are conceived to be motionless by the individual. He’s on a train. He looks up and down. Somebody walks down the aisle of the train; he knows somebody’s walking down the aisle of the train because he holds the forward end of the car as one anchor point and the after end of the car as another anchor point and the individual, who is in motion, has a shifting dimension, from one to the other of these two things so somebody can walk.

What the other fellow doesn’t know is he can’t find a dimension. He doesn’t know he can find a dimension anymore. And that unability to find a dimension upsets him terribly. And is that fear of not being able to find a dimension which keeps your preclear from changing anything. He is sure that if he loses his dimensions, he’s gone. He’s just sure of that. If he loses anchor points and dimensions he’s a gone fellow.

But let’s look out the window. And there we see the countryside flying by like mad. Sure, it’s the countryside flying by like mad. You have to explain to a little kid how the countryside is not flying by. The countryside is motionless; the train is what’s in motion. He knows this from past lives and so forth, but a little kid can get awful kinda fooled on this. And every once in a while he’ll sort of grit his teeth and say, „All right, it’s actually doing that – but it doesn’t look that way.“ So actually the countryside is flying by with relationship to the two anchor points, the forward end of the car and the back end of the car. Those are what’s motionless and the countryside is flying by, of course.

That’s why young fellows go down tone scale so badly on this thing that’s laughingly called universal military training. Somebody grabs him by the nape of the neck, throws him into a brand-new set of anchor points and says, „These are your anchor points, Bud. Your MEST.“ Now this fellow’s idea of this – new spaces he will occupy and so forth – has a terrible abyss lying between his teens and his ability to occupy any space in the society and have anchor points in the society. And that abyss is somebody standing there saying, „Now, you’re going to have anchor points according to our direction, you’re going to be transported, transshipped, removed and uh… no anchor point with which you’ve been accustomed, and for a couple of years you can count, as far as you’re concerned, on being MEST and being utterly lost.“

Now if you say every telegraph pole there is an anchor point and those anchor points are shifting, then you can conceive that the train is in motion. You can even sit in the train then and feel the train rushing forward and the countryside sitting still. But it’s quite a trick. But you can do that with great ease.

And they go just boom. You can watch them, they go down tone scale. Their plans for the future and all that sort of thing have a tendency to go by the boards. This is the lousiest trick that could ever be pulled on a country. Instead of paying a little bit more for soldiers and making a little bit of their life a little bit more interesting than kicking up a few wars to keep the troops happy – something like that – they make it a compulsory supercontrol operation.

A race driver does this with facility. He goes so fast that even he knows he’s in motion, because the track is shifting so fast with relationship to the bonnet and the shoes of the car that he… he could feel that. Why? He’s got an up-and-down vibration and sideways and so forth.

As a matter of fact, a… a few boys from Batten, Barton, Durstine and Osburn got together and figured out how do we make military life interesting so as to get lots of recruits? Why, uh… they put their heads together; they’d say, „Well now, let’s see, let’s have canteen – no, let’s have company hostesses. Aha ha-ha, yeah, that’s good. Company hostesses – no, squad hostesses. Terrific overproduction of women in this country; there’s 15 million of them are going to be unmarried to the end of their days. Let’s see, we’ll take the statistics so we can prove it to the government.“ „Therefore company, no, squad. No, I think there oughta be a senior and a junior hostess to every squad. And, uh… let’s see, there should be uh… should be, uh… let’s pep these uniforms up a little bit – these boys walking around in olive drab, we’ve chosen in the past, the ugliest, messiest uniform we could possibly imagine. Well, let’s get somebody down in the Arts Department to draw one up.“

If you want to really drive a fast car, get one with small wheels built close to a track; that’s a very fast car. If you want to drive a slow car, get one with great big wheels and a big powerful motor, and with… it rides awfully easy. And that’s really a slow car.

„Okay, now, let’s fix it over on the citizen front there so that people who neglect to service this uniform properly, and so forth, they get their taxes increased. Yeah, that’s a good idea. That makes the boys happy. Naw, that wouldn’t work because that’s too compulsory.“

What’s this got to do with miles per hour? It has nothing to do with miles per hour except in relationship to anchor points which the driver isn’t perceiving. You see? Uh… that’s very interesting.

„Let’s see, I know, we’ll… we’ll just get the democratic administration or the republican administration or somebody to write some more figures on a book up in Wall Street that somebody keeps up there so they can write some more books on the figures down in the Treasury Department down here and what we laughingly call money will be then issued in superfluity to these troops and we will have troop money which buys twice as much as any other kind of money. Yeah, that’s very interesting.“

In some countries they tell you they have very fast railways. That’s because their trains go over rough tracks, terrible tracks; they’re built rather close down and the countryside isn’t ever observed. But what is observed is the way you bounce around in that car – boy, is it taking off. Furthermore, everytime the engineer starts one of them up he goes it from zero throttle, full throttle – BOOM. And you go crash across one car and crash the other way and you know that thing is driving. You know that thing is really going.

„Now, let’s… let’s stop all this walking. That… that walking is bad, the boys don’t like to walk, and let’s get each one of them a, well, I don’t know, a motorcycle, how about a hotrod? They are cheap to produce. And we’ll have squads of hotrods and senior and junior… Let’s put another hostess in that squad. And uh… let’s… let’s have three times a week – see, they haven’t looked at the ages that they’re getting into the army – three times a week, at least, we will have all the malted milks and hamburgers you can uh… possibly eat for suppers. Yeah, that’s a pretty good idea. And we’ll have an issue of chewing gum, good, solid issue of chewing gum, so on. Good.“

But let’s take something with 120 lb. rails, built well up off the ground and let’s take it at 120 miles an hour down the track. Thing isn’t moving, obvious. You sit there, have a whisky soda, something of the sort, in the parlor car. Finally railroads became so despairing about people believing trains didn’t move fast that in most of those very fast trains, back in the parlor car they have a speedometer.

And what do you know, they wouldn’t have to have universal military service, but universal militaries have to work for that so nobody’d bother on this other line. Being a little bit snide on that, but uh… it’s a good thing.

All right, then what… what is… what is this whole business motion? Well, let’s get right into the second stage here.

Now, of course because every time… every time you get a control army, then you have to have somebody to hate. That makes it necessary to go on having the army and it gets very complex after a while.

What’s matter? Matter is not simply condensed space, it’s relatively unoccupiable space, and the solider matter is, the more you have postulated that it is unoccupiable. And when you get out as a thetan you’re travelling on a high wave length, the first thing your preclear may do is slam into the ceiling. And then he realizes suddenly that he does not have mass, and the second he realizes he doesn’t have mass he goes on through the ceiling.

Now, uh… I think – uh… what is it? One hundred and eighteen percent of the national budget goes for the maintenance of our military defenses. Well, you might as well take over three or four states and turn them over to the teenagers and uh… and… and just have a good time for a couple of years. I mean if somebody solved war you could do that. Now, let’s get off of that subject for a minute.

Sometimes he has to fish around for a little while to find the wall of the ceiling in order to… to come back through it and use it as an anchor point. He has to practically repostulate it in order to get back into the body, and when he gets out and first realizes this, of course all time and space scrambles to him, scrambles all over the place. The reason why is he has lost what most people are holding on to madly as the last anchor point.

The reason why those guys get lost is anchor points and then nobody lets them put in items. They got to have the uniform that’s issued. Ta-ta-ta- ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. Just exactly what it says, and you got to do this with this equipment. And we give you this but you don’t own it.

I call this, the point of origin is in the body – well, let me extend that a little bit for your clarification. The only anchor point he has is the body, that he can be sure of. His level of certainty has diminished and diminished and diminished throughout life. He’s become so dispersed, any other anchor point has been found to be so reliable, that they disappear if you sneeze at them. And this unreliability of anchor points has finally brought him down to the fact that when he pinches himself, he knows it’s real. He knows he’s not dreaming because he can pinch himself and get a sensation. This is the same thing as saying, he knows he can perceive his body because he has not been chased off that as an agreement.

Now we give you this rifle, but you don’t own that. Now we give you this uniform, but you don’t own that. Now, we’ll come around and see if you’re keeping this rifle right, and this tank right and this uniform right, and everything is right and you don’t own that but it’s yours. And you’re going to get practically machine-gunned if you don’t keep this equipment good, you understand? But you don’t own it and we’ll make sure you don’t own it, and so forth; now you control it but don’t own it. Now you locate it in space, exactly where we tell you to locate it, and you only put it in space where we tell you to locate it or else. Isn’t that great? I mean you couldn’t figure out a lower tone scale operation than this whole thing.

See, he agreed to all these anchor points, and then other people broke the agreement. They kept taking anchor points away from him. So the one thing they haven’t taken away from him is his body and he has this body then as an anchor point from which he cannot be robbed.

What’s the… what’s the answer then on the whole track? The MEST universe is doing this to the preclear. Now I’ve been talking about the army, but the actual fact of the matter is I’ve been talking about inhabitants of the MEST universe.

So his reality consists of anchor points to the body and other anchor points around are kind of vague. He doesn’t perceive them very well because he knows other people haven’t agreed to them. Why? They’ve taken them away from him, haven’t they? So when we start perceiving, or as this person starts perceiving, he’ll perceive the body more and more and more and the environment less and less and less until we get the dwindling spiral which finally leads not only past the normal homo sapiens, but on down to a six and a seven case level of Standard Operating Procedure.

In they come, MEST universe says, „Now look, there’s a bunch of natural laws and bunch of agreements. And these are the anchor points and these are the only anchor points you can have and you locate yourself in the middle of these anchor points. And uh… you do just exactly with what… what… what with this planetary arrangement and these photons and so forth as we tell you, because this place is rigged to enforce itself upon you. And uh… you can’t have any of your own particles. And if you start using any, you’re going to get in trouble.“

And this person doesn’t even know it’s real by an anchor point of the body. A seven has lost the body as an anchor point. No longer has the body as this anchor point, so he cannot be sure where he is because he knows the body isn’t real either.

And you get the same kind of a state of mind that you’d get as a teenager in the army on the part of MEST people. No responsibility, there’s nobody taking responsibility for this universe at all. It’s just sort of floating around like a Russian army.

But as a person goes down the tone scale, down the tone scale, down the tone scale, his environment contracts on him. The lower emotions are contracted environments, less motion capable, more solidity, harder to move through. A person can actually feel this. You get… run him through a moment of shock, he will feel the environment close right in on him and become practically no-dimensional.

Okay, here we have… here we have, then, the most fundamental process that you could run on a preclear, which is orientation in space, the most fundamental thing you can do. And that would consist of a very strange thing for one lifetime, the location of 0-1. What’s 0-1 for this preclear? What is the origin point he’s been using all of his life? He’s using one origin point or another all the way along the line, from his earliest childhood. What’s his origin point?

He’s abandoning every anchor point in the environment because he’s saying, „It can’t be actual. It can’t be actual.“ That’s the same thing as saying, „It can’t be happening. I don’t want this motion. I’ve tried to stop the motion itself, in order to stop the motion, all I can do is abandon the anchor points and that will make the motion stop.“

Student: himself.

Only that doesn’t make it stop either because he’s still got the body. And he’s got the body and the motion continues in relationship to his body as an anchor point and so he feels the whole environment contracting down and he’ll finally abandon the body as well in order to stop some motion which he conceives to exist beyond his control and beyond his ability to withstand the perception.

LRH: No, it’s not. He has to have an anchor point. His origin point has been dependent upon, probably A, A-l, A-2. You see, he hasn’t got any location himself by agreement in this universe unless he has some anchor points that have to do with the MEST universe. He’s already given up the right to be his own anchor point and to choose for himself anchor points.

All right, this gets right into motion, anchor points, dwindling anchor points. You’ll find that individuals who move the least have the fewest clear anchor points. You will find that the ability of an individual to tolerate speed depends completely upon his ability to hold anchor points. And his ability to hold anchor points depends only upon his belief in his ability to hold anchor points. And anchor points come down to being postulates.

So he’s using an anchor point from somewhere in this lifetime somewhere on his track. What is it? You find out – what are those anchor points? This is surprising, but you will find out it’s such a thing as the fireplug which stood outside his house when he was a little boy. That is one of his anchor points. The other anchor point may be a small hill which was about eight miles south of his home where he used to… he used to be able to look out the window and see this hill. Those were the anchor points of the world. And as a little child, if you would have gone up to him as a little child and you could say, „How big is this world?,“ he would say, „Well it… it goes, well, it’s… it’s uh… way over from that fireplug there and it’s way over from that hill and it goes down… well, I know a canyon down the line, it’s pretty deep, it’s a hundred feet deep, and it goes down there, and every once in a while the stars come out and they’re over a mile high. And there they are, and that’s… that’s… that’s the universe and that’s it.“

How do you remedy this situation then? How do you rebuild this ability? You just have a person start postulating anchor points, dimensions to space, that’s all, and contract them and expand them and contract them and change them around and then put in new dimensions and change the old dimensions and then age the dimensions you have and then decrease the dimensions. And then decrease the space and expand the space again and scramble then the anchor points.

And you would have said, „How about the Germans? How about the Japanese? How about the uh… Russians? How about uh… uh… the Kentuckians? Uh… anything.“

Have the anchor point that is over to the right move and be the left side anchor point and so forth. Turn the space upside down backwise to. Interchange these points and then throw in a whole bunch of random points. Then throw all these random points together in a pile, thereby collapsing the space. Make some matter out of it and then bring those anchor points back out again and move them around as anchor points.

And he would have said, „Well, obviously they must be just beyond there. I’ll have to ask somebody. I’ll… I’ll… I’ll get… get somebody to pack me a lunch and I’ll walk over and see them.“

Now take these anchor points and set them way out somewhere and then fill that space full and then defy the laws of space in the MEST universe (which laws of space have to do with our agreement on how much space can hold in relationship to oneself) and start dumping into that space things it obviously cannot hold and have it remain the same size and just keep on doing this, then empty that space again and then dump things into this space. Now empty this space and throw them to places where there is no space, and bring them back into places where the space is much too small for them and have them fit very adequately.

He just hasn’t any concept of any dimension between himself and Russia, no concept. If… if he were told that a raging war were going on as the children were in World War II – he knew a raging war was going on and uh… he… he just… he… he knew where it was going on. It was quite real to him. That war was real close to home; it was just on the other side of that hill. And he would take it pretty seriously. It was right close to home. And other people would have been up and looked around and so forth. They, people who lived in that neighborhood and been out driving and so forth, they knew it wasn’t there at all. They knew there was no dimension between them and that war, except maybe Johnny and Johnny was in that war, and he used to write letters and it took the letters four days to get home. So there was a four-day dimension between themselves and the war and that was pretty close.

Shift the anchor points around again, throw the anchor points away. This starts in on a gradient scale. Take one point and move it around, and then take two points and move the two points around and then move them close together and then further apart. The first thing your preclear will find – if he’s down around five and so forth – don’t pick this up if you don’t do it – is, the first time he tries to hold two anchor points in relationship to each other, they’ll snap together and go zero on him. He’ll try to put two points out there and they’ll keep going snap.

And there were other fellows who didn’t get any letters from Johnny so they didn’t have any dimension to the war at all. So they just sat around and figured out how much they could make.

The distance between them will collapse. Not only will they snap together, but they’ll snap back onto his body. Of course they will, because his point uh… anchor point is his body. So in order to be sure of any anchor point he naturally has to bring it back and feel it on his body, If he doesn’t feel it on his body, it isn’t an anchor point.

You ask your preclear on an E-Meter what his… what his anchor points are and this was his gyration. And, what do you know, he’ll have visios on them. They’ll be static, cherished visios, and he’s… he… he’ll turn these visios around once in a while and throw them behind him. And he’ll look at them and you get them on the track; it’ll be some fixed position.

Eventually get him to perceive an anchor point at some distance from his body. And then perceive two of them and be able to hold them apart and shift them around at will. Be able to move them farther away and closer up. Shift them around all locations possible, these anchor points. Change the character of the anchor points. Make them different.

It might be… one of them might be a fireplace, maybe not in his own home at all, but in a neighbor’s house. That was a piece of space he could own. It was perfectly all right with this neighbor if he owned that fireplace. They was always nice to him, gave him cookies, place calm, peaceful – own home might not have been.

The next thing you know you’ve clicked out the belief he must have that the anchor point must be furnished him, and he will find out suddenly, „Gee, what do you know, heh, I’m… I’m the viewpoint of dimension.“

So he had an origin point and uh… it was… it was one of his anchor points. And the other one – he had a teacher who was nice to him, and this teacher had a house on the other side of town. So between the fireplace and the house on the other side of town he could shift around, himself, and to really have a good set he’d have to have a third, so maybe it was Bill’s house.

Now the second step of this merges straight on into force and it goes into the first level of force, which is sensation. Sensation has a lot to do with ARC – ARC, it gets pretty crude when you can define it as ARC. At first it is merely sensation. It is rather undifferentiative. It is still a flow; the ridges on it are quite minor, and then the ridges start to get heavier as the person comes down the tone scale.

And he’d have these three anchor points, and so his origin point is only apparently here in 1952, 53. Only apparently, and it’s not here at all, and the guy’s been lost for years and years and years, and he doesn’t even know it, because he has no line of dimension between where he finds himself at this moment and – he just never thought about this – and the A-l, A-2, A-3.

So the first thing you do on a mock-up drill is to put something out there and put an emotion into it and then feel the emotion. Because that’s what a person does all the time, 24 hours a day. There’s no sensation coming off of anything except what sensation he puts into it and pulls back off of it again. Just as he neglects continually to postulate his anchor points in space for the sake of automaticity and interest to himself, so does he neglect continually to perceive this little step. In order to see something and feel about it, one has to project onto it the generally agreed upon feeling about such things. And one projects onto it this generally agreed upon feeling about such things and then perceives back off of it this perception, and the first step he wishes to enter his awareness is „I perceive a sensation emanating from.“

He is operating now from A-10,065, N-10,066, and A-10,067. And these are his three anchor points. But he is still at 0-1.

Now he’s got to have space in which to do that because it’s emanating FROM and you can’t have anything emanating from anything unless you’ve got some space there first. You can’t have anything emanating to anything unless you have some space there first, too,

So we get 0-1 prime and A-10,066, A-10,067, and A-10,068. And, what do you know, his level of reality is practically zero.

Now what’s the drill? What’s the drill? You just put things out there and you just take the emotional scale and the emotional scale from 40 to 0.0 as will be covered, is the zeros of MEST and the 40.0 is space. Now matter is really a 0.0 and 40.0 is space. So what does this coincide with? It coincides with the action cycle. At 40.0 you have start, intermediate you have change, at 0.0 you have stop. At the top of the emotional scale you have space, at the middle of it you have action, at the bottom of it you have matter. And this coincides with an experience: emotional experience, with the top of it being serenity and then, about 20.0, on a very high exhilaration, then exhilaration dwindles off and we get… we just skipped enormous array of emotions, by the way, and we skip right on down into what the homo sapiens and low level beings in general experience as emotion, which is enthusiasm, caution, boredom, antagonism, anger, fear, grief and apathy.

Oh boy, is he not here! He just is not present, that’s all. Why? There’s no relationship between these things and A-l, A-2, and 3. There’s no dimension; the fellow’s lost. And he’ll give that lost appearance. You take one of these persons; you try to spring him out of his head and he says, „No… no, I’m not moving out of my head.“

And as we go down that, we’re going down the action cycle. We’re also going down the creation, change and destruction cycle. And all those cycles are coincident cycles. So your preclear will be able to perceive only at the lowest levels at first, usually, and he will only really be able to perceive at a certain height. This is the only way I know of swiftly changing the emotional tone and therefore the position of the preclear on the tone scale is to shift his position on the sensation scale.

Now you can say it’s ridges, it’s smidges, uh… it’s anything you want, but he isn’t in his head. He’s standing back at the corner of 16th and Van Buren in the year 1928. There he is. He knows better than to get any further than 16th and Van Buren, because that’s in rollerskating distance to A-1, A-2 and A-3.

That sensation scale and the emotion scale can be considered to be coincident scales: that is, to have him put anger onto an object and feel its anger, to put fear onto an object and feel its fear, to put grief onto an object and feel its grief, to put apathy onto an object and feel its apathy. Now what would that be doing? That would be moving your preclear in order right on down the tone scale, wouldn’t it? And if you went through that order and you said, „Now put some antagonism on this object. Put some anger on it. Now put some fear on it and perceive the fear, now put some grief on it and perceive the grief. Now put some apathy on it and perceive the apathy. And you just went through that cycle in that order from 2.0 down each time as the drill, you’re agreeing completely with the MEST universe. You’re agreeing and therefore he will on go down the tone scale.

You will find the most… you will find grief charges – grief charges – on the first time a kid had to abandon his anchor points. He’s gotten accustomed to them, and the first time he had to abandon them… and you get him returning to his home town and if somebody’s moved one of his anchor points he’s just shot. He’s just in a mess; and so he’ll hold on to the facsimile of the anchor point and take his whole track and jam it from that anchor point on up to now, because he knows that there’s distances involved and being distances involved he’s got to jam his track down to match his original anchor points so that he’s still there, so he’s not lost.

But now if you just vary that and then make it slightly random and then vary it upwards and then make it random and then vary it upwards again, why, you’ll eventually be able to boost him up because really what you’re doing is changing postulates. You’ll be able to boot him up to exhilaration.

And then you come along and ask this fellow to get rid of his facsimiles – oh no you won’t! And you say, „All right fellow, now let’s get rid of these anchor points, and really get lost.“ Uh-uh. He isn’t even vaguely going to do it.

The fellow who goes initially and immediately into serenity, very fast into serenity, without realizing what he does for emotion has simply backed off from experiencing sensation. He has mistaken serenity for sensation. I mean this… he’s mistaken this sensation of backing off from sensation for serenity.

He’s going to find more excuses; he’ll jump up off the couch and smoke cigarettes, and he’ll claim that it’s his… it’s how mean people were to him and how this wasn’t none of his behavior and it was action, it was ideas and it was this and that and the other thing, and you’ll look down at his anchor points. Because we’re going on all out here on theta clearing, we want to get to collect the fellow to a point.

Down a little lower on the tone scale, of course, a person is fixed in what they feel. Just like a piece of MEST is fixed with what you felt. You put this MEST out on the table and it’s on the table. You know a table is there because everybody feels that table. And you agreed that you are everybody, so there you are out there and you feel it.

We’ve got to collect the fellow to a point. And what is the point? He’s got to have a viewpoint from which he could postulate other points – and if he doesn’t have a point, from which to do this, why, he’s in terrible shape; and we look down the track and we find our preclears who are very hard to move out of their heads and be certain where they are, are people who have been scattered all over hell’s creation and have, in one lifetime year after year after year – were moved about, moved about, pushed about, pushed about, their possessions taken away from them, their possessions lost, their possessions broken up and particularly their anchor points.

Now, you can put something on it and take an emotion off of it. But that is a little hidden step and most people very successfully hide that from themselves and they’ll be quite startled when they suddenly find out that their emotional a… volatility is considerably increasing and also that their complete and utter slavish dependence upon the MEST universe as such is itself decreasing.

You’ll find that after a while every time they have been driven off from a space – in any way – they’ve gone in near hysterics. Or any time anybody’s tried to pin them down into a space. For instance, somebody who comes by and arrests them, something, and puts them in jail. They just go into… all to pieces. Because that’s really getting lost, that’s too much stress of imposition of anchor point. And they can’t stand it. They just go to pieces on it.

Why, they never saw the like of this, it’s very strange. They… they… they… they feel better. That’s the only way they’ll say it. Probably won’t even explain it to you at all exactly why this is. But up to this time they’ve said „MEST universe will deliver sensation to me.“

Now, anchor point is necessary to have motion, so what do you find quite in addition to this? You’ll find that this preclear who has lost his anchor points and lost his anchor points, has lost his motion and lost his motion…

The reason a guy gets down to apathy is he’s no more willing. He thinks he has to receive the sensation without putting the sensation out. And the more he believes this, the less force he employs; and the less force he is willing to employ, the more he will do this; and the more he does this, the less real sensation there is for him; and he gets into the null of no sensation lower band, which apparently is just flicking around sort of grief and apathy and maybe a little fear. Once in a while he becomes annoyed and he said, „I was in a rage the other day.“

For a while his motion was dispersing – oh, badly dispersing – and uh… he was trying frantically to keep it up and pretend all was well. And he knew where he was, he knew where he was, yes sir – but did he?

You know a real good rage is an interesting thing to behold. If a fellow started postulating rages on something he could probably bust agreements which other people had hanging on it. Let’s say he levered a rage at the window and everybody has still got hold of that window, and it’s a window, and they’ve all postulated and so forth, there’d be such a kickback from the window that they’ll say rumph, and the window will go kablam – there’d be no window. This is how you produce sudden shocks in MEST.

There’d be a little voice behind him, „You don’t know where you are, do you?“ And uh… pretty soon, why, somebody comes along and tells him he’s mean and he’s ornery, and he’s no good, and he got no force, and he mustn’t use force, and he becomes convinced that force is no good, too.

All right, what then is the first… first requisite on this motion? Space. And what is the first requisite of motion? Is that you can shift postulates about anchor points. That’s the first requisite, that you can shift postulates about anchor points. That gives you real anchor points and that then you can observe something shifting in relationship to anchor points.

Well, of course, he can’t produce force if he’s lost his anchor points. That’s the essence of production of force is to have terminals. Now, we’re really sneaking up on electricity. You understand we’re not talking here about electricity.

Now the essential step there is of course to perceive that something is changing in relationship to the anchor points. You postulate it’s here, and then you postulate it’s there and then you postulate it’s over here. What are you doing when you’re doing that? You’re saying, „It’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there, it’s here, it’s there.“ Look at that thing vibrate.

We don’t want in any way to influence the field of engineering. They’ve got some agreements pinned down and they’re stuck with them. And uh… they… we don’t want to interfere with that. So don’t apply any of this material to mathematics or engineering. We don’t want… this stuff wouldn’t change it anyway, I mean.

Now, this apparently and obviously requires time, doesn’t it? Because what did you say? Time? What’s time? Well – time – well, you’ve got a watch, haven’t you? Says in the old axioms, a single arbitrary is time. Uh-huh, this MEST universe for homo sapiens has as its arbitrary time. Because he’d made time an unknown thing which can be given… experienced only secondarily, and he’s sort of agreed that this is what it is.

Uh… so let’s look, then – the first thing on orientation – let’s look for his original anchor points and see if we can find them. And, of course, his first anchor points in what you call home universe are lost to him. They’re gone. Home universe… boy, you can always get a grief charge on it. So, the home of his very early childhood is usually lost to him as well. So, he’s… on the whole track; he’s been lost and lost and lost and lost and lost. He keeps getting… you want to know long a spiral is? A spiral is as long as one can keep himself convinced he isn’t lost utterly.

Now in order to have motion you’ve got to put into existence two anchor points, and you’ve got to have a shift of dimension. Well, when you have two anchor points, you can say those things exist without dimension, but that isn’t very handy.

Now long is a lifetime? A lifetime is as long as one can keep himself convinced he isn’t lost utterly.

So let’s put something with its own dimension there and certain solidity so if somebody runs into it they’ll know it’s there. Let’s make sure that’s there. Now when we get something shifting there let’s say it has a certain unenterability and let’s get it shifting real good, right to the left, left to the right, right to the left, left to the right. Now let’s get that going real good. Now we got that.

Why do people out in the corn belt sometimes live to the age of 8,000 or whatever some of them claim? Why… why is that? They’ve never gotten lost. And, by the way, some of those uh… octogenarians and so forth quite commonly make a practice of propelling themself not by any other conveyance than shank’s mares, walking the distances they want to go. It’s with perfect confidence one of those old fellows would suddenly say, „Well, I’m going down to see Sister Bess now.“

All the time, by the way, we’re sitting there watching it and being very surprised, very, very surprised that uh… and affected and amused by all that action that’s taking place that we don’t have anything to do with it. We’re not doing that, no, no. We’re doing that with complete agreement, so we put an object there.

And somebody would look at him aghast and say, „But that’s over a hundred and eighty miles.“

Now what’s this object? This object is a particle. It has an unenterability of a certain dimension of the space which we’re dimensionalizing and that is a particle. That’s very simple. This particle could be a sheet, a cube, a lightning bolt, anything you want to put it there. Hut let’s say a particle. And let’s get this particle being first, second, third, fourth, so that there’s an order of position.

And he’d say, „Well, sure, it’s going to take me a couple, three, four days to make it.“ He had measured every inch of the way and observed every inch of the way.

Now we could go first, second, third, fourth, just agreeing that there’s an interval of sh… shift. Unless we’ve got a solid agreement on an interval of shift, unless we’ve got that one, nobody will ever see anything travelling at the same speed, and we couldn’t have that.

Now if he went down there at 80 miles an hour, it is sort of swoosh, and by the time he gets there it’s been a blur and he’s not well connected with it. You would have to get somebody well speeded up to remove him in distance that much.

So let’s get that thing and then you can shift it to one, two, three, four, as positions. And then you could shift it to positions as I’m going to write as follows up here on the board, and your shift of positions would be first one… positions one, two, three, four – notice this is in relationship that you’re seeing it, by the way, to those two anchor points up there.

Out in space people are really speeded up. They think very hectically and so forth. Brrrr. All of that space, but, gee, you can see anchor points a long distance. You can see ‘em many light years, and so you can move around to that degree.

And uh… so then we could… we could do this change, we could do this change, this uh… in two ways. We could say one, two, three, four, or we could say one, two, three, four, or we could say one, two, three, four, or one, two, three, four, or one, two, three, four. And that last one, two, three, four all piled up on each other there would make it look like it was standing still, or that it wasn’t there, which it isn’t in the first place.

Who is this fellow? Well, this fellow is the fellow who used to have as anchor points Star X, Star Y and Star Z. He didn’t even live on a planet. You know that he would consider himself… that would be as big as his anchor points were.

All right. So you ever see anything do this? You ever see anything vibrate broadly and then narrow and speed its vibration and then narrow and speed its vibration until it’s practically standing upright and vibrating like the dickens?

It’s a very good thing to take out a little kid when he’s very, very young and show him some stars and say, „That is Betelgeuse. That is only – – light years away; it’s a long way away. Now that’s Betelgeuse. Now we’ll take that and we’ll look at it in a telescope and examine that thoroughly and it’s in relation to star so-and-so. And this is Mizar and that’s Marcab, and that’s the North Pole, and that’s some other star. Now you see those stars? Now, they don’t exactly look different, I mean they… they look a little different when you look at them from another point, they… they get closer together when you look at them from another point, because they’re distances apart. But you can look right here now and you can see these stars and you can locate them and you’ll always know they’re there. Take a look.“

Well, now it’s… it’s going to shock you sometime to find out how fast you really think because you don’t think measured against time. And when you think your time against MEST time as such, running a clock or something in the MEST universe, you’re going to be flabbergasted to find out that you’re thinking brrrp. And you’ve just thought out this whole book. Or you say brumm and there it all is. Oh heck, you… you can do that and you’ve got a condition… you’ve got a condition… you can go brrrp and you’ve got a condition. Well, you’ve got a condition – that’s very interesting, isn’t it? You’ve got a condition. There it is. Very interesting.

I ran into a fellow whose father was an astronomer. He was one of the most unlost fellows you ever saw until we got into the Southern Hemisphere. This boy was a navigator, and he was an aerial navigator. Aerial navigators are very smart boys. They… they’re very sharp, they know what they’re doing and so forth. And the grim joke is they think a surface navigator, a marine navigator is something on a stick. They… they… they… they’re very… they’re very fascinated with surface navigation because they think that’s a sharp business.

You want to sit there with nothing else to pick up your interest? Time is for the purposes of interest. Time is made to interest one. So we get time to be a particle, a motion, an object. Now look it, don’t… don’t… don’t get too slippy on this. Time is not, definitely not, at any moment, anything as silly as a change of motion in space. That is not time.

Sure enough, it is, uh… in standpoint of error, but the surface navigator isn’t going 350 miles an hour. These boys know their navigation inside-out and they’ve always approached a surface navigator with reverence for some reason or other. Maybe that’s because a surface navigator demands it.

To say that there’s time and then to describe an action of space and particle and your postulates and then say, „Well, there’s time“ is to put out a weird sort of a thing that some kind of an unknown thing that goes on that we don’t want to know anything about. So that compares immediately to something on the automaticity scale. Not wanting to know in order to produce randomity. Time is… is the object, call this particle an object. Sounds awfully strange, doesn’t it? Time is an object. Call this particle an object, call anything which becomes solid as a result of that as an object, call any energy flow which is a whole particle or made up of particles, whichever way you want to look at it – call that whole energy flow an object, or call any section of it an object. But let’s kind of use the word OBJECT. There’s a good reason for this. It’s an object; because you can change a person’s time sense and time beingness and alter his time just with objects.

We got down in the… down in the Southern Hemisphere, and this kid started looking at the Southern Cross. And he became… first he became very excited and then he got sadder and sadder and sadder, and I’ve never known to this day exactly what it was until the other day I was figuring out what this was, and the fellow had lost his points of origin.

So let’s divide this thing up for clarity of thinking in order to compare it to experience as an object… objects. Let… let’s… let’s class… let’s forget about the clocks and their hands going around in circles for a moment and see this as an object, and the chair as an object and the place as an object and so forth. And there is a lot of change of space matched up in each one of these things on which you’re agreeing like mad. It’s really… you’ve got no idea how bright you are. Why, you’re so bright that you can keep all these postulates running simultaneously. That’s brilliant!

He was gone, he was obviously in another world somewhere. That Southern Cross in the southern sky is very spectacular and uh… you get far enough south down around New Zealand, if you’ve customarily lived in Canada, where he did, you get an almost completely different sky. Very interesting.

Well, let’s… let’s… let’s take a look at this now and let’s take a whole lot of objects. Let’s take a great big pile of objects. Let’s not do anything with the coordinate points, the anchor points for those objects. Let’s just take that great big pile of objects. Now unless you come along and do something about them or unless they’re motivated to have something done to them, or unless internally something will happen to these objects, there’s no change.

All right, and uh… we’ve got uh… we’ve got then your question of this. In this life, a fellow cannot change his physical identity. If he could change his physical identity, his beingness and so forth to match his new anchor points, he would be all right, but he isn’t permitted to do that.

And if you were to walk in there according to the MEST universe time of 1200 and take a look at that pile of objects and you were to walk in there in the year 2000 and take a look at those pile of objects and there was no change. You were there in 1200, and when you went in there at 2000, you were there at 1200. Well, when you went in there at 1200, you were there at the year 2000. See, it doesn’t matter a doggone. It doesn’t matter when you came in that area, that space, and examined the objects; if there’s no corrosion, no loss of the object, you’ve always got the same time. You never have anything else, but the same time for those objects.

He has a connecting link, he has the same name, with A-l, A-2, A-3, with A,1066, A,1067 and A,1068. He has the same name, he has the same body, he knows, he has the same relatives, and he’s got a lot of other things, and every time these pop up, they keep reminding him that he is not on his anchor points and he doesn’t quite know where those anchor points are. And as a net result he’s quite confused.

You have a change of object out in the environment beyond this space by which you can judge whether or not… you’ve got an alteration of anchor points, postulates shifting for your own interest, out here in the anchor points of the environment, and you’ve got this big pile of stuff there. Now you say it went from the year 1200 to the year 2000 not because they changed – no change. You… they had just duration. There’s no change; that’s duration, that’s also matter. All right.

Now, this has a great deal to do with the production of force. If it didn’t have anything to do with the production of force, it would not lead us through this maze, uh… because the production of force itself, and tolerance of force, is in itself affinity, reality, communication in this universe and the road out is the road through.

But you could go out here in the environment and you could go around and… and you get… you… you… you postulate you’ve got a Ford and you postulate you’ve got a building, you postulate you’ve got a moustache, and you postulate you now have a family. And you got this and you got that and you got this and you got that and you got this and you will have this and you won’t have this and something else this and that, and so forth, and this whole cycle goes along for an awful long time, and then you come back and take a look at this room. There’s no change, but you know it’s been a long time. Not because anything happened in the room, but because something happened on a broader set of anchor points. Only when you make a broader set of anchor points for observation and include that room in them, is there any change in that room.

So every time we have a preclear who is sort of scattered and dispersed and he doesn’t quite know where he is, and he’s not oriented and so forth, let’s go through a little bit on space and find his origin points for him. Let’s relocate him and reorient him in space. That would be an awfully good idea, wouldn’t it? So here he is with space that he can’t control. And, sure enough, he’s worried about space being too crowded. He’s worried about space crowding in on him, claustrophobia. He’s worried about moving things around in space and keeping space neat. Or he is so careless that he doesn’t care WHAT space keeps neat. He’ll just throw things around in any space because that space isn’t his space anyhow.

Timelessness is an apathy and time itself is an apathy. Timelessness merely means something that endures across long spans of time. That’s silly – something that endures across long… one is a long span of time.

And he has a lot of points like this and he is just scattered. So you ask him to move out and be in a new space, why, shucks, his body isn’t in any space, much less the thetan. He isn’t in any space that he can recognize, as a body, and he’s just abandoned the whole thing anyhow… So, we have the three conditions here which will be general categories and you could call these cases then, case one, as an origin, case two, still as an origin, case three as an origin with dispersal, some dispersal, your case four as an origin, considerable dispersal, case five is uncollected, with sole point of origin as the body itself.

The Egyptian pyramids obviously have changed. They are not timeless. You could measure the amount of change of the Egyptian pyramids. People came along and took that nice marble facing off of them and built doorsteps and privies and things out of them, and did different beautiful things with them. That’s a fact, they did, and the desert sands came up and hit them and corroded them and blew them away. There are big nicks in them and the space of the… space of the Sphinx has all corroded; there’s been a change there. We know they are changed. But if those things existed as the day they were built with the same condition as the day they were built, we’d walk back there and it might as well be the 3500 years ago as now.

Now let’s just run a gradient scale between those two things. Case five is uncollected with a sole point of origin as the body itself and you can’t ask him to remove from the body because he knows nothing exists as anchor points outside of the body. He knows this.

The more solid apathy is… you see, apathy can be this no motion apparency. It’s an all motion which has no space to operate in, all postulated, all collapsed on itself. We have, then, an object.

Now we’re using here… this is the scale of… this is your… your case numbers on SOP Issue Three, your case numbers. Now what’s six? Six is not sure-body and seven is no body.

We’ve got duration. We have duration. Mostly because another guy, some poor little weak guy can’t come along and take a look at them and say, move this way, move that way, move this way, move that way, and they get all changed. No, sir, these exist on changeless postulates. They’ve been agreed upon so hard and so thoroughly and so carefully that nobody can come up and in a few little weak postulates alter them. There’s no time there. Things would stop.

I’m drawing it over here. Just above that we have this condition: uh… the person is well oriented at X. That would be uh… figure four here. That would be a one, he’s… he’s… he’s well collected at that point. And here we’ve gotten a sort of a general sight on things, not too good; we’re getting down there. And he’s somewhere in here, and we get down from that into this kind of a thing. Now that’s all very well; he’s somewhere in here.

Now if that existed, only on its own anchor points, there’d be no time. The place might as well be empty on its own anchor points. It’s empty on its own anchor points; it’s full of matter on its own anchor points, you still have no sensation of time, until you put a particle in there.

But these points aren’t in sight. He’s occluded. He guesses there’s some points over there someplace. He just assumes it.

So let’s just forget about this slippy, stupid word TIME, let’s forget about that and let’s get change of position. Now that’s theoretically the definition of it. And the only reason we’re interested in this is not interested in it from a physics standpoint even remotely. They’ve been too long running around in that squirrel cage. Going round and round and round, space is time is MEST is a particle is space is time is MEST is a… I mean we’re… space, time, energy, these three things are related. Related, hell! There’s no difference except in terms of experience. And the second we put these things in terms of experience we can handle the problem in processing. And that’s all we’re interested in. You just say, anytime time factor comes up, you just say have and have not, and you’ve got it. Sounds awful simple, but, boy, the case is just ripped to pieces on this one.

Now if you want this in terms of attention units we’ll put bursts of attention units up here along the one, three, six, we’ll put… he looks like that here, around one.

Essentially, by test, if you will treat an engram which is held in present time as something which a person still will have or is trying desperately to have not, you have the essential ingredient of time and it’s present time for him. And that’s what brings your engram into present time.

Here we have… he would be uh… slightly like that, about three, and he would be collected in sight with everything smashing in at him about six. And then here he’d be leaving. You get the idea? The guy’s dispersing around in space, that’s all I’m trying to show you. And you’ve got to get this fellow collected from six up to one.

Your engram is in present time because the person still wants it and hasn’t got the actual object, so he takes the picture of the object. Guys are always packing around little pictures. They can’t have the object itself, so they’ve got a picture of the object. That’s a facsimile and all that a facsimile is, actually… they know they can’t have the object, they haven’t got sense enough to make it again right there; besides this would overrule the law of scarcity and so… so they… they… they… they carry this little picture of the object around and that’s permitted in the MEST universe.

It isn’t… it isn’t a matter of running flows or dichotomies. You can get him out on responsibility any time you want to. Joy of responsibility, beautiful sadness of responsibility, joy of irresponsibility and that sort of thing. On brackets you can get him out any tune you want to if you want to work that long enough. He’ll eventually get there working with flows and… or mock-ups or anything you want to work with, you eventually get there with a case. You know what responsibility is.

But all of a sudden you’ll… you’ll open up the preclear’s track a little bit and you’ll take a look and for heaven’s sakes here is… here is 8000 B.C. and 5 trillion years ago and so forth all there together. Well, he’s had enough change that he more or less estimates – because of what?

But here we have a case which is a… a big point. He can cover an area. He isn’t just a single point, he can sort of cover and pervade an area. That has contracted down as we go down to the two and has become a negative position by the time we get to three, four and five, and, boy, he… he’s just… he just knows he’s got no point when he’s at five – he just knows. He’ll be chased out of any place he goes into. He has, by the way, this… this funny feeling.

Planets alter. The havingness of a sun, determined by some prior set of postulates, the havingness of a sun is scheduled. And the havingness of a sun is scheduled. The sun is as long as it has, as far as a… as a… has what? Has change. And if it doesn’t have any change it might as well not be there, because it isn’t going to emanate any light or isn’t going to do any other thing as far as you’re concerned. You can readily tell the kind of matter that isn’t supposed to emanate so you… you say it won’t emanate and it doesn’t.

He walks into a strange restaurant or something of the sort; he may be very self-possessed, educated and he… he’s educated himself into that, very self-possessed. He’ll go into the restaurant and uh… so forth, but if the head waiter and so forth looks at him sort of strangely, he just exactly knows what the head waiter’s going to say. The head waiter’s going to turn around to him and say, „Get out.“ He knows that; he knows any time he goes into a strange place he’s going to be kicked out. He has 8 million dollars in cash in his pocket. He has a… a… a local army called the Police Force of Podunk Falls solely in his pay and he goes over into Squeedunk Falls and he knows that when he walks into the main station at Squeedunk Falls that the station master’s going to say to him, „Get out.“ He knows at this moment he will have to flee.

Now, let’s… let’s be very specific about this, then, in terms of energy. Now I don’t care which one of these energies is which. There’s two energies.

His havingness, his terrific havingness, is a substitute for having any space. Cause havingness is the bottom of the scale and space is the top of the scale, and when a man’s got to have, he’s telling you he has no space. His space is condensing, and condensed space and that sort of thing is objects. He’s got to carry space around in packages on the theory that maybe some day he can uncondense it. So he gets objects, he gets Rolls Royces and blondes.

I mean, just might as well go round the other way and call the minus the other one and so on. There’s the have and have not energy. And there’s stuff which you approach and that says, „Have me.“ It really does sort of say, „Have me.“ You can… you’ve got an idea that that’s the kind of motion that should be in this environment and those space coordinates and so you, „Have me.“ It has… sets right there. That’s very good.

Or if he isn’t in that category, he keeps things in his desk drawers. Wife goes out every once in a while and cleans out the tool shed. There’s… the newspapers from eight years back are in there and everything is in there and there’s everything in there, and there’s all this… this… there’s this little gimmick that he took off that something or other there that he was making and he knows he’ll have a use for it someday, and that’s in there and it’s got kind of dusty, and then there’s the dead rat that uh… ha was going to frame, and… All this stuff there, he’s just got to have this condensed space around someplace, because someday he’ll uncondense it, he thinks. Gives him points of origin – that’s what he’s looking for. He’s getting… looking for anchor points, somehow or other, he’s got to have some anchor points. And he can… he can uncondense this any time he wants to, as everybody knows.

Now there’s the kind that says, „Don’t have me“ and these two things get together and they go flick flick flick flick flick flick flick across and you get randomity.

So, the preclear you will find amongst homo sapiens starts in as being perhaps larger than a point to himself. This isn’t any past body. He’s very relaxed about it. But if you found anybody very much larger than a point, he would not be in Mr. Homo Sapiens. He would be standing around outside leaning up against the lamp post once in a while, saying to homo sapiens that he is allegedly running, „Okay, Joe, why don’t you go over and have a beer?“

Let’s take the animal kingdom. The animal kingdom rushes around with two thoughts in mind: „I’ve gotta have“ and „I don’t want to be had.“ That’s all; that’s what appetite is.

„Yeah, that’s right, that’s a good thing to do. Ah, to hell with him.“

Your engrams break down immediately into those two classifications: the engrams „I’ve gotta have“ and the engrams „I don’t want to have“. So there’s two haves. There’s a „have“ engram and a „have not“ engram. The trouble is, with a have not engram the fellow has lost his ability to have not. He no longer is able to say „I won’t have it.“ And so of course anything he says, „I won’t have it“ to, why, that’s gotta say „l have… have not.“ And it will back off and then stay in suspension.

He would really be uninterested because he hasn’t gotten too concerned yet. Now by the time he’s collected down to a point he’s getting kind of concerned, and by the time he’s getting down any lower than that, of course, it’s a negative point.

It’s right there; he can’t run it either because it’s… it’s ready to punch him all the time. He says, „I don’t want this,“ therefore he says, „I’m not responsible for this, so therefore it keeps hitting me and I keep creating it, but it keeps hitting me and here it is right here and it’s knocking hell out of me and therefore I don’t want it.“ And the harder it hits him the more he says „I don’t want it,“ and the more he says „I don’t want it,“ of course, the more it’s a have not. And the more it’s a have not the more it kicks him because he… he owns it less, so we have a standpoint that’s horrible.

What’s a negative point? It’s a point that a dimension goes through. A point is a dimension going through it. A point should have no space and no dimension. This fellow… this fellow has to drive five miles forward to back up one step. You get the idea. In order to go to plus Y on a three plane dimensional scale uh… in order to go to a plus Y uh… at all, he’s probably got to back up along minus Y for eight yards and then he thinks he’ll get the plus Y.

So you have big fish flying around in the ocean and they say, „Gotta have, gotta have, gotta have, gotta have.“ And all the little fish fly around in the ocean and they say, „Have me not, have me not, have me not, have me not.“ And the more they say „Have me not,“ the more the big fish say, „Gotta have, gotta have, gotta have,“ till the fisherman comes along and he says, „I gotta have“ and there goes the big fish. At that moment the big fish has changed his postulate and suddenly says, „Have me not, have me not, have me not, have me not.“

And, what do you know, that person acts like that in his behavior; he acts like that. He has a split instant where he has the impulse to go the wrong way and then he tells himself to go the right way. When he starts to turn a corner, if you’ll just watch his hands for an instant you’ll find out that his hands are starting to turn the car the other way. And then he’ll turn them back again to make them turn the right way. Yeah, he’ll… he’ll… he’ll do that, it’s flick. Well, that fellow has got to… got to back up a long distance to go forward an inch, and he’s got to… he, see, he collects space, anchor points, uncertainty. What’s reaction time? What’s motion? What are all these things, comes under the heading of space. Origin points in space.

So we… we get a system of interdependencies along the dynamics. You ought to trace that out just for your own edification. It’s the cycle or series of „have me’s“ and „have me not’s“, plotted against the cycle of creation, destruction, plotted against the cycle of action, plotted against the cycle of sensation which finally wi… and plotted against the cycle of experience. All these things plot together and you find out time is an object. Now there’s two kinds of objects, there is have objects and have not objects.

Your process on this is to mock up spaces. And fill them full and empty them. And fill them full and empty them. And then put lots of things in them and then throw things away and then have things coming out of the anchor points and going away. And then reaching through all of this area of space and being in this area of space and coloring this area of space in various ways. And reaching through the area of space. And then mocking up anchor points that he would like to have. How would you like to orient yourself, Bill? What would you like to have out there to get you to really know you were there? Now don’t try to chase this back by symbolism.

Now what to you find in the preclear? The preclear is always saying, „I had, if I had only had, if only I had not had,“ he’s putting it in past tense. Oh, it’s not in past tense though, isn’t that horrible? He’s still got a facsimile sitting right there in present time all the time he’s saying that it’s in the past, and the more he says it’s in the past and he doesn’t want it and… and so forth, and the more he regrets it, the more he’s upset about it, why, the more he’s got it because he hasn’t got it.

I wrote a foul and evil book once upon a time. Was called THE KEY TO THE UNCONSCIOUS. It ties back mock-up processing into reality. It turns out that that’s the meanest thing an auditor can do. You can do a lot of things with this, but if you use it too long it will give the guy the idea that his dreams are all based on reality.

So he can move his whole engram bank right up into present time by simply saying all the time, „Well, if I’d only had, the trouble was I had.“ He’s saying „had, had“ and pretending that such a thing as „had“ exists, and then all the time going on in complete agreement that he’s in present time, and then saying, well, „had“ really exists.

And that is the primary sin of psychoanalysis. They say, „You can’t have your universe, you poor fool, we’re just uh… helping you now. Let’s see, now think of something else. Oh, that’s because you drowned your grandmother’s kittens. Yes. Oh, you think that’s yours, eh? Well, that isn’t yours, this happy little dream you’re having about, uh… yeah, that depends upon something in the real universe. You’re really agreeing after all. You thought you were trying to get away and disagree and we look it all over and we find out that you were only agreeing.“

You’ll find this person’s incapable of handling time. There’s a way to handle time. The way you handle time is to handle objects. If you handle objects, you’ve handled time. That’s all, too simple. That’s because time is a word which talks about the interrelationship – you see, we aren’t quite on time when we say object; but time is an interrelationship of beingness, action, and object, and the interrelationship of beingness, action, and object become themselves time.

„Now you say that when you go to sleep at night you have a dream. Now you think you’re free when you dream, don’t you? But you’re really agreeing with the physical universe. Yes, now that will be 185 for this week’s work and that will be 8,000 for next month’s work. And a complete psychoanalysis takes about a year to find out if we can do anything for you and it takes another year to do anything for you and then of course we can’t guarantee that anything will be done for you and that will only cost at average rates in the United States for four appointments a week, of one hour each, 9,450. And that is the cost of doing nothing for you but making you into MEST, brother.“

Uh… you’re going to flounder with this for a while; there’s hardly a homo sapiens alive that can grab on to time. You can make time happen brrrr, or you can make time happen pocketa, pocketa, pocketa, practically at will.

And how is this done? Simply by pointing out to somebody that everything he thinks of has an origin in the MEST universe. He has no independent capacity to dream. And for heaven’s sakes you don’t… you’re using mock-up processing, please learn this as one of the important points: never wonder what caused the fellow to think that up, because at first there’ll be a little impulse for the things he thinks up to be modified by the MEST universe. But, if you don’t challenge him, he’ll go free. Last night we had some demonstrations here. We had a preclear who couldn’t tell me a lie. That was interesting, isn’t it? He couldn’t say there was an airplane just flew in the window. Fascinating. Why? The MEST universe has kept saying to him over and over and over and over, „Look, you’ve got to agree with me.“ And agreement with the MEST universe is the equivalent of, similar to, and is the same as punishment. And there isn’t much difference between the two.

Do you know in the last instant before you hit bottom, that a lot of time can occur? It’s the degree you’re trying to have that makes a lot of time. Just get that – the degree you’re trying to have is what creates time. So you’ve got this urge to have.

So, unless he agrees, he’ll be punished. Unless he says what the MEST universe tells him to say, he’ll be punished. So any operation in mock-up processing which tries to convince the preclear that what he has just mocked up has symbolical purpose in the MEST universe is an overt act and is black magic, operating to reduce the self-determinism of the preclear.

Now you go around you find these fellows who in… oh boy, are they in bad shape, are they way down tone scale and in horrible condition. It sums up under one… one heading which has two parts, and that’s… they have this idea: „I will have and I won’t ever get.“ He’s going to be punished and he’s not going to get any good out of it. It’s in terms of havingness.

He keeps mocking up a broom handle. „All right,“ he says, „I’ll take this broom handle and I go this-a-way with it and I… I… I got a broom handle here“ and so on.

His future is in terms of havingness. If you cut off a man’s havingness he has no future. I mean, if you cut off all of his havingness his future’s done and that is the one condition about death – as far as the current lifetime and combination of homo sapiens, thetan and so forth, it’s the end of havingness. About the only thing he ever has that he’s really sure of – he’s got a body. And he knows he will have the body and so he sort of sticks on a time track. And he sticks on it like mad. He does everything he could do to stick on this time track, and it’s a very slippy job. Actually trying to stay on a MEST time track for a person who’s fairly aberrated is like walking a very, very high tightwire with greased shoes.

And you say, you know, to yourself, you know, „What he’s really mocking up… what he really is mocking up is a… is a pressor beam. And he’s afraid of pressor beams; he’s afraid they’ll collapse, so he’s got something solid like a broom handle that he’s monkeying around with there.“

You get your psychos and so forth. A psycho will come around and he will hand you a moment, and you try to take a phrase away from him and he will finally give it to you. And I’ve had them reach in their pockets for it and hand it over. Phrase is an object.

Well, you know that. But that’s all right, what the heck? Don’t point out to him that he’s mocking up pressor beams. Let him get a bigger and better broom handle. He’ll find out sooner or later that he’s mocking up pressor beams, but let him find that out. Then if he wants to mock up something else he can have zing-zag broom handles or something and get away from it. But the essence of it is to let him know he is doing it and that it is his. Not that it is related to the MEST universe.

People who are pretty well down tone scale, words and symbols are objects, they’re not thoughts anymore, they’re objects. And these people are so literal with words. You… you tell them rrrrr and so on and so on and so on, and you give them this idea and he says, „Now wait a minute. Now what word did you use?“.

He only has one area to get out and that is CERTAINTY and his only real certainty he’s going to be able to get is the certainty that he himself has his own illusions. And he gets that certainty, goes up the line of knowingness; if you keep showing him that THAT certainty really was the MEST universe and was not a certainty at all, you’re going to knock him on down tone scale and out through the bottom.

And it’s just as though they were sorting over a pile of rubble, you have suddenly changed a word. It offends them somehow. The… you… you use maybe a colloquialism or something like that, and, boy, they’re upset about this. It’s really hit them.

You’ll make MEST out of him because he’s saying you can’t locate anything in space. Look, it’s still the MEST universe located in space with you, fellow. I’m… I’m sorry to have to digress and give you this… this technical discussion on psychoanalysis.

You wouldn’t be so upset with them if you realized that you had probably driven a bullet into them or something of the sort. The thought is the object because the person is in such bad shape that they can only think as an object. They are an object and their thoughts are objects, and they are objects, and they’re getting more objects every minute, and they’ll get pretty upset about it after a while because they realize that they’re on their way out.

I have used psychoanalysis, by the way. I have the edge on people in psychoanalysis who have things to say anything about Scientology. I know their subject – they don’t.

Now what’s havingness. Havingness. Have and have not. Positive- negative terminals, so you get this positive- negative randomity as explained by the interaction between haves and have nots. So you get this in the political scene. Let’s just apply it in one time; that would be the most familiar thing to you.

Now, we have, then, the whole principle of spacation outlined under the heading of anchor points, and origin points. There’d be the preclear’s origin point. There would be an understood anchor point which he somehow or other somewhere has consented to. That would be anchor point understood but not located, or origin point understood… better change that around, call it origin point unknown, but understood. And then there’d be the origin point which he conceives to be himself. That would be, according to him, a secondary origin point. He thinks of himself as a secondary origin point. He’s an origin point being located by the first unknown origin point. Therein lies his aberration.

There are the haves and there are the have nots, aren’t there? And they fight all the time. And the big joke is that the have nots are really the haves and the haves are really the have nots. The haves have no liberty, they condensed all their space and the have nots have got freedom because they haven’t got any space. They’re not troubled by objects.

Now he is an origin point, then, and as an origin point he can clearly be an origin point as long as he has a good solid assignment to anchor points. Your preclear needs anchor points to find himself oriented.

The haves are trying to keep having, that is, hold on to, and the have nots are trying to procure. So your progressives are usually found down along the level of the revolutionaries, or is that up along the level of the revolutionaries?

Now, the only way he could really, really be sure of anchor points is to mock them up. He can’t guarantee that this is the MEST universe, this MEST universe is real, but he could guarantee that he himself had mocked up real anchor points. That would really be real anchor points, but in this universe you will find out that his earliest decided upon anchor points are really postulates. They’re heavy ones. He’s made them day after day after day.

That rich man tries to buy duration, tries to buy duration, and he gets duration all right; he turns into MEST. That’s why the rich man can’t go through the eye of the needle: his ridges. These ridges are haves, and a person has ridges to the direct degree that they are upset about have and have not, in direct ratio; and they are stuck on the time track to the degree and the exact degree, and their time is unable to be handled to the degree, that they are upset about have and have not.

„Well, I’m getting home now. There’s Mrs. uh… Marsha’s house. Oh, here I am at the corner.“ How often you’ve said that; have to say good night now. „I’m at THE corner.“ If he could only know what he really felt down underneath about the corner, and if he were to say to himself or think to himself, „Someday there isn’t going to be any corner anywhere in reach of me at all,“ he’d get the funniest sensation. „Someday I won’t be able to walk to this corner.“ And in that whole subject lies nostalgia.

They can have or if they could get the idea that they will have in the future, all of a sudden their track will free up and they’ll run like gazelles on it. But they’re sitting there with the idea they can’t have but they have had but they’re trying to hold on to, and you can get ahold of them and put your foot against their chest and pull on the ridges and have them snap back and go booong. And you try to pull out the tractor beams, and get alongside of that and so on and they go bing-bong and go right back into place again.

You’re gonna get… you can actually blow grief on this – nostalgia. Nostalgia goes back anchor points; you can get nostalgia on anchor points one, two and three up to maybe anchor points uh… nineteen, twenty and twenty-one, and after that don’t bother to get any nostalgia, because the guy has given up about that time having any anchor points.

You can’t take anything away from this person. You’re trying to run an engram. You’re trying to get him to… get rid of a little energy. He isn’t going to be able to do it. He can’t get… do it because he can’t have, can he? Well, therefore, he’s got to hold on to it, hasn’t he? And those… those things are all have nots, aren’t they? So he can’t touch anything that doesn’t want to be had because he can’t use any force, can he? Because he hasn’t any space to orient against, and you say, „Run out that engram.“ And he’ll say, „What engram?“ Well he… and you think, „Christsakes!“

And if he’s gone up to a set of what did we have here, same here as the Battle of Hastings, more or less. Boy, that was a fight. Uh… A-1066, uh… if you get up to a thousand anchor points this guy’s had… he’s now at anchor point 1,000, 1,001, and 1002 or something like that. Oh, no. This is just… his life is just a blur. It’s just a vague blur to him. You can go back and he will locate in terms of objects.

The fellow keeps walking around all the time saying, „I’ve got to get rid of it, I’ve got to get rid of it. Well, I’ve just got to get rid of it. I wonder why I worry all the time about knitting needles, knitting needles, knitting needles? I’ve got to get rid of it.“ And he’s just walking around. He looks like he’s in a prenatal and there he is.

So if you want to put a guy’s time track back together for any reason or other, put it together in terms of objects instead of energies, because he’s low enough on the tone scale so all he can actually locate is objects not motions, ordinarily, if he’s in that shape.

You start to ask him to give up this prenatal, he’d probably start reaching and looking through his pockets when you start talking to him about an engram. He uh… he… he’d be unable to conceive that he was dramatizing, that’s why; it’s cause and he’s effect.

Now things won’t be in motion for this guy, for this preclear; he won’t see things in motion, things won’t be in motion for him, he’ll have a hard time making anything move. That’s merely because he hasn’t any solid anchor points. How can you make anything move if you haven’t got anchor points? It’s impossible, naturally.

So way up at the top of the tone scale, the individual is cause and as he dwindles down from beingness through action to having, he becomes more and more an effect of what he has.

What is a terminal? A terminal is an anchor point. What are the terminals of an electric motor? The terminals of an electric motor are the anchor points from which motion can emanate. The principle of the manufacture of electricity has to do with the shift of the point of origin between the anchor points of an electric motor. With this principle, could we work out a new, good and usable electric motor? Yes, we could.

That person’s span of life is freest where they have the least and expected the most, and became most stultified and ruined the time when they finally procured. And their instant of procurance is their instant of no time from there on. Your one-five who was holding on, holding on, holding on like mad, he’s holding on to the arthritis, holding on to Little Bessie, holding on to this, holding on to that, isn’t going to get loose of anything and so forth, and he’s going to destroy it, but isn’t going to… no motion, no motion, no mo… what do… what do you find in this person? Boy, anything that comes near him, just hits up against the body like a magnet. It goes spoing – thug. You run down, you get rid of this engram, you run this one-five through this engram, you run him through this engram from one side to the other all the way through the thing. You say, uh… „Well, let’s go through it again.“ They go all the way through the thing again, and you say, „How’s it feel?“

For the first time we could have an electric motor. That’s all due respect to General Electric. That’s a good outfit, General Electric, actually. I never appreciated American electrical equipment till the last few months and uh… two-twenty A.C. is gaps all the time and they have to have the most fantastically wide plug-ins. At a hundred and ten, A.C. is pretty good, that doesn’t close the gap; that doesn’t have to be very heavily insulated on a hundred and ten.

„No change.“

But if you were to put two-twenty on a hundred and ten plugs and fitting and lines and that sort of thing, you’d get quite a fuss, so the British believe that our electrical equipment isn’t any good. And we believe that the British electrical equipment is far too heavy. And we forget that the difference of voltage is so wide.

„Let’s go all the way through it again…“ You’re not going to get anyplace with this, that’s all.

Well, anyway, actually the British manufacture electricity far cheaper than anybody else. I don’t know whether this is… has something to do with having a higher power to go over the lines or less line loss or something of the sort. But uh… the point is that when you deal with any kind of terminals you can get a nice sparky current, nice juice, good hot juice. If you got a terminal one, the terminal here, whether it’s made by… in Great Britain or in the United States or on the planet Gandalupia…

You’ve got to get into this to a point where they can change. You’ve got to find someplace they can change, because they haven’t got any time and they haven’t got any time because they own all possession. And it’s all have not possession. And if they got all this have not possession and some have possession, they have to hold on to the have possession and that makes them hold on to the have not possession. And the first doggone thing you know, what’s the first thing a one-five tells you? He says, „I’ve got no time. I have no time for that.“ And you’ll see him sitting there at his office desk, hour after hour after hour. I mean, „I haven’t got any time for it. I’m awfully rushed, I’m so busy.“ He’ll look at you rather sadly and sigh wheezily, „I have no time for anything.“ There he is – he’s got no time for anything. That’s perfectly true. He’s got no time; he’s just so upset on the idea of time, his haves and have nots are so intermingled and balanced he can’t do anything about it.

You got two terminals… and a base to keep them apart or a will to keep them apart, will, postulates, base, no real difference. Uh… you’ve got location, and where you have location you can have motion, and where you can have motion you can have life, life forms. You can have action, you can have objects, you can have all of these things. And they all come out sort of on the course of the horseshoe nail, straight through.

From there on down he tries to get rid of possessions. A one-one tries to kick possessions away and get the hell out of there because he knows he’s in death. Now a one-one will destroy possessions covertly and try to get rid of them, push them aside, they won’t leave him. He hasn’t enough command value to do that. Your one-one, he starts to kick this engram through and he will sort of reach down to the side and move it over to the side and say, „Yeah, I’m all rid of that. Yep, yep, I ran that. I ran that“ – the end of the session he takes his foot off of it and it goes spoing and he’s got it again.

They all come out from that one line, origin point, unknown and understood, origin point, preclear, anchor points. When you’ve got that together you have the complex terminal set-up necessary to produce a high- level energy flows and the phenomena which you see here in the MEST universe and which you call electricity and which on a much higher level, causing the electricity, human thought. This is not a very mechanistic approach, by the way. This is highly esoteric as an approach, because, what do you know, you keep postulating this and you’ve agreed with everybody, you’re trained in viewing anchor points, you’re all set. You’re… you’ve done all this. You’ve gone through all this and you… you’ve… after you got trained to produce anchor points and you produced… you had envisioned good ones.

You say, „What’s the matter with you today, I thought we ran that out yesterday.“

You could put motion into them and you assisted motion all over the place, and you have produced lots of action for yourself there. And… gee, life was running fast and so forth, and eventually people started to disagree with you and you lost those anchor points and… and other things happened and you weren’t supposed to use force anymore which is to say it isn’t your space, same thing.

„Oh, we did.“

Uh… you ever notice dogs when they run into a… a neighbor dog’s yard? They really cool down. It isn’t their space anymore. Well, they can’t go into motion like that, but they go back in their own yards again and some Pekingese goes into his own front yard – there’s nothing more savage than a Pekingese in his own front yard. Mastiff comes in there and he says, „Excuse me,“ and he walks out. That’s own space.

Huh? There it is.

All right, all this subject comes down to – you… you’re actually producing that motion, you’re producing an agreement with an awful lot of people, you go on producing it and what do you know, you reach over all the time and keep planting emotion into things, so that you can perceive emotion.

Their time. What happens to a one-one’s time? Boy, time is the master. Everything is an effect. He’s an effect to everything.

You not only put the motion there but you put the e… emotion there and perceive the emotion out of it continually. And you want it all to be automatic, and you want sensation like mad, so you just skip that step every time. You skip the step of a postulation of space, and then you skip the step of a postulation of motion, and then you skip the step of postulation of placing energy there to emanate back at you again, all because you want the sensation to effect you.

Well, now maybe you’ll understand this a little better on this scale. On this scale, 40.0 is beingness. This is in terms of experience. 40.0 is beingness. Now there can be beingness and individuality above 40.0 but space is one trick of beingness. And beingness in this universe is space anchor points coordinates. And that is beingness. And the most beingness a person could be would be determined upon the most space the person could embrace. Free space postulated. Now you find your big rancheroos out in the West. They owned one hundred eighty-five thousand square miles and so forth, they were big men them days. Yeah, they sure had an idea of beingness. Space! Nothing on it at all.

You want all this to make an effect out of you, because you want sensation from it, so you just skip these steps and you’re all set. Except you wind up aberrated and homo sapiens.

You go out there, you also find that the biggest liars that ever lived probably come from spaces, big spaces like that. Out in space in your space crews and things like that, the guys who are really free and have lots of space. They wouldn’t know what the heck you were talking about, if you said, „What is the truth of this?“ „Truth, there is no such thing.“

Let’s take another break.

Now, we get 20.0 is action. And action is energy. Energy. But the funny part of it is that 0.0 gives an interdependency of objects and beingness which amounts to action. It is very hard to get into… very hard to get into action without an object. Just get… try to get into action.

By the way… way, one of the ways a fellow dramatizes this when he’s a little kid, he says all the time, he’s saying, „If I only had the gun and mask and so forth of Red Rider, then I could be…“ And he gets much older and he has the wherewithal to buy all the guns and hats of Red Rider you could possibly imagine, but what does he do? He’s… all of his childhood was spent trying to get dressed so he could play a part in the play. And all of his adulthood is spent trying to get dressed. He’s forgot that there’s any part left in the play. He isn’t prepared for anything anymore.

So time is an object really. It’s an interaction between beingness and object that gives you action. And so it takes a full forty-to-twenty interrelationship in order to give us activity and energy. And out of this we get force and the production of force, and all of the other things in which we’re interested.

Now this lower scale here is S.E.T. related to experience. E.X.P., and that experience is the human experience and in human experience space is beingness. Action is energy, and object is time. And if you want to process a person who has no time, process if… in that s… way. If you want a person to increase his energy, you have to address his beingness and his object, in other words, his space and his object.

So instead of processing too much space, energy and time as such, you could process beingness, action and object. Or instead of processing, as you have in the past, thoughts, beingness, object, abject, so on, so on, trying to get at it like that; you can process directly space, energy and object. Space, energy and time, because this time is just have-have not, that’s all.

You can process that directly and in that wise you can straighten a preclear out and make him run like a gazelle, but you have to rehabilitate force in order to do any of it. And force of course is the middle ground, and the way you get force is space and particles, which are objects. And that is the way it is done.

I’ll give you the mock-up drills in tomorrow afternoon’s lecture. Tonight we’ll be covering the axioms.

Let’s get a bite of supper.