All right, let’s go in for something here on this third hour of December 11th, afternoon. Let’s go in for something very much more specific. And I’m going to give you your straight rundown on this quite rapidly on this page 38, List of Processing.

This is the first evening lecture of December the 11th.

„All processes are based upon the original observation that an individual could have implanted in him by hypnosis and removed at will any obsession or aberration, compulsion, desire, inhibition which you could think of – by hypnosis.“ Hypnosis, then, was the wild variable; sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t work. It worked on some people; it didn’t work on other people.

I’m going to cover rapidly now the Chart of Attitudes with all of its various facets. You’ve read this Chart of Attitudes, you’ve found it in the HANDBOOK OF PRECLEARS. And in the HANDBOOK OF PRECLEARS it talks about it as an ideal state of man.

Any time you have a variable that is as wild as this, study it. The essence of solving problems is the essence of solving one against the other: the highest certainty that you can reach, versus the most variable thing you could reach.

I don’t think there’s any real contest with its being an ideal state for man, but if you took the whole top band, you’d find it was an awfully inactive state.

Well, I had a high certainty already – I had survival. Got that in

If you didn’t go on from the top of the MEST universe band into some sort of activity or something of the sort, you’d have no beingness. That activity is yours.

1938 or before that. And uh… I’d studied the endocrine system and structure at will. Oh, just… oh, just studied it and studied it and studied it. I spent a year doing nothing but studying the endocrine system, trying to find out if anybody know what happened to the endocrine system. The British solved the endocrine system better than the Americans had. And it was a… really some kind of an alarm, or monitoring system of the body. But it did not respond to matter. It couldn’t be monitored very much by matter, but boy, could it be monitored by mind.

Now the odd part of all this is that your activity is, in this universe… is enforced or inhibited. You’re given the supplies and then to a large degree not permitted to use them. And your own process, your own manufacture of mock-ups and so forth, is actually in contest with the MEST universe. The MEST universe says, „Look how big and strong and real I am, and how weak and puny you are.“

Wooo! You could take somebody and you could remove a compulsion or an inhibition and his endocrine balance would just go Zing! – way up along the line. Or you could hypnotize him and selectively repress, if you please, almost any gland he had. And then knock that repression out and turn the repression on again. Handle it at will with direct command and hypnosis. That’s function, you understand. And you could feed him hormones and you could feed him anything else you could think of and you couldn’t materially change his behavior.

How does it says that? It says, „My actuality is brighter than any you can make.“ This doesn’t happen to be true. The reality of the MEST universe is poorer than a reality which a preclear can gain in his own universe. This would only be natural, because what is one’s own can be more real then that which one has given to him. One always appreciates that of which he is the author more than he appreciates something of which he is not the author.

So I had solved the basic problem of what did you study? Structure or function? If it had been function, I would have gone into function on an engineering level and uh… tried to knock the problem apart from that angle. It turned out that wasn’t it. It was: structure was uh… not the answer or the road to an answer because you couldn’t do anything with structure. You could use the most rigorous tests you could set up and observe as close as you wanted to, and nothing happened. Nobody’d ever tried to do this before in the history of the examination of man. I want you to understand that that job had not been done.

This is a rather inevitable sort of thing, and so really here, following out this old process of SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008, we find we are working with, really, a curve that goes two ways here. It starts down from here – 0.0 – and then goes up here – 40.0 – and comes over to here and comes down here again. And this could be the MEST universe, and this could be your own universe.

Nobody divided the problem into two halves – structure, function – and had then selectively taken each one of these halves and seen if you could monitor structure and function by treating just one half of it.

One of the reasons universities get patronized is because they use the word UNIVERSITY. One of the reasons they get loyalty from their students is because they use the word UNIVERSITY and YOUR UNIVERSITY. There really is no other reason. That’s right, flatly; because let’s look at the s… facts of the case. The writer, would-be writer, goes to a university to write. If he’s ‘taught’, unquote, to write in a university, he’ll never write.

In other words, could you change structure and function by handling only structure? That was a question that should have been asked. And then, could you handle structure and function by handling only function?

A painter goes there to learn how to paint, and he comes out – he never paints. Fascinating fact. That’s because he runs into authoritarianism. It does something to one’s will to be positioned for such long a period of time as from the age of five to the age of 22, 23 or 24. A person is young, he can stand it up to about the age of 15, 16, 17. And then he starts to suffer – badly – by being positioned. If he does not take on the responsibilities of his own existence shortly after puberty, he is going to have a hard time of it the rest of his life. And that is the flat end of it.

Well, you have to break a problem down before it can become a problem, so maybe nobody even know there was a problem here. But certainly, there weren’t any answers to it. I don’t make any reservations on that. Louis Pasteur’s work is a shining example of uh… accuracy in a field which is otherwise just flop. Uh… even Pasteur, he should have looked a little closer. He had all the tools to look with.

It is no joke that university women do not have children. That’s a fact: They don’t. They don’t reproduce that particular line to any great degree. There are a lot of them that do, and the funny part of it is, these days they’re breaking out of that rut somewhat – somewhat. But the GI bill didn’t do anything for this.

What happens to an experimenter or an investigator is something very interesting. He becomes so convinced… he becomes so convinced that he has to be right, that he doesn’t bother to look. There’s a good dissertation on this – Will Durant once wrote a beautiful dissertation on this – they find something and then they’ve got to rush around like mad and wave this thing around and never look any further.

Look at Heidelberg. The European university is a very interesting one. Sometimes you even go to class. The GI bill was a whip over the heads of anybody who wished to study, the like of which nobody’s ever seen. You had to have a high average to keep up. This is one of the ways the government used to keep everybody from benefiting by it. You had to have a high whip… – average, big average – bang!

They want to hit an action spot, accomplish it, and there they go. In other words, they’re running on a very short cycle. As soon as they start something, they’ve got to stop it. You’ve got to run on a long cycle to tackle a long problem like this.

You had to get in there and know those facts. And instruction under those conditions was what? As many as 400 students to a class, with one instructor, and that instructor was just a lecturer. No instruction, really.

So, here you had all these people running around – they… oh, operating and chopping and shooting people with things and… and oh God! on and on and on and on and on – without ever having taken the problem apart.

Very interesting. I looked at universities when this was going on. There’s one thing that saved the bacon of the GI. He’d been out on his own somewhat, and he’d also found out how to duck and dodge in the service. It’s the only thing he had.

Well, all it required was, we took the problem apart, just compartmented it. All right, we find out… oh boy! were there some crews operating on this! There were a lot of people working on this. How do you change mental behavior and structural action by treating structure? Oh, they were shooting… they had people out of these Japanese prison camps and so forth, and they were shooting them and they were giving them narcosynthesis uh… and doing all sorts of weird things in various directions. And it all boiled down to a structural address to the problem.

But if I have to rehabilitate, or try to rehabilitate one more writer that a university has ruined, I’m gonna go over and really fix me up some short story professors. I’m gonna zap ‘em so they’ll know they’ve been zapped. ‘Cause I’m sick of it!

Well, to an engineer it’s appalling for anybody to work on a problem… to even work on a problem if he doesn’t even have the design. „Let… let’s work on this thing before we answer the question „What’s it for?“ – you know?

They run the same old yap. The kid turns in a good idea, a piece of his own universe, and he gets it back: „The punctuation is off.“ Who the hell cares about the punctuation. That’s what you have editors for.

It sounds so idiotic to an engineer. We say, „What’s it for?“

What do they teach these kids? They teach ‘em how to edit.

And they say, „Well, there isn’t any reason for it and there’s no goals. We’re all in apathy anyhow and it doesn’t matter. And the problem’s too complex.“

Some of the most famous writers in America were congregated in one room. These writers were looking for someone who had a Ph.D. in literature, a doctorate in literature, or something in literature, that we didn’t even know what the degree was. And everybody kind of squirmed; one fellow says, „Well, fact of the matter is I… I took engineering, I didn’t take writing.“

You ever ask somebody about this: „How about working on the problem of the mind, trying to do something about the problem of the mind?“ „Well, that’s too complex.“ You say, „Rut you’re working on the problem of the mind.“

And another one says, „Well, I… I only spent the first year in college and then they kicked me out.“

„Well yes, I know. But it’s too complex – there’s no s… real solution to it.“

And another fellow said, „You did? Well I was there two years before they kicked me out!“

In other words, you’re in a complete defeatism on the problem. Well, how does anybody ever solve a problem if he knows it can’t be solved as his first postulate? Nuts to you brother! And I didn’t realize that it was even… it was that bad for a long time. I… I just found out it was that bad just increasingly. I started out first believing that there were a lot of people who were doing something on this. All right.

And all of a sudden we looked through this whole crowd and we find out – my God! Everybody here has been kicked out of a university and probably didn’t spend very long there except maybe if they were taking engineering and then they were hanging around with the fringes. And then the only reason the university graduated them as engineers is they knew damn well they’d never practice engineering. And uh… well, it was about all we had.

I turned around and I had hypnotism. I had a little advantage there because I was using hypnotism that I had learned in India. And that doesn’t bear too much resemblance to Western hypnotism. You’ve got variety of hypnotism there. There are ninety thousand ways of putting a guy out – I swear there must be that many ways. I mean, you can just run on and on and on. There’s various things you do; you treat the perceptic lines in certain ways and guys go „Ka-boom!“

Except one little small proud voice piped up over in the corner, and he said, „I have a degree in literature.“

For instance, I had a… very amusing one time; I talked to the staff at Saint Elizabeth’s. If you can place somebody in time and space – we can put it out now – if you can place somebody in time and space with great accuracy and then put a monotony on it, damnedest things happen.

We thought, „For Christ’s sakes! Mice?“ And uh… it was what? It was a literary agent! I mean, oh no! Flesh brokers. They can’t write. Oh, how they’d love to! He was the only one there.

So I talked to these people from Saint Elizabeth’s, a spin-bin down around Washington, talked to the staff. And I was very careful to talk to the staff in a certain way – and put ‘em to sleep.

The aggregate income of that room, by the way, was in excess of 150 thousand dollars a month – except the literary agent. He did criticisms for a dollar a manuscript.

Uh… hypnosis bears a considerable resemblance to sleep and a person knows… any auditor knows when he’s dealing with a hypnotic subject. Any auditor should know something about hypnosis because it’s a very standard set of something or other. There are various things that will happen. The breathing will become shallow, and uh… the next thing that happens is their eyes will roll back up in their heads, like that, or roll down like this. And their eyelids will go flicker, flicker, flicker, flicker, flicker. And uh… if you do anything that makes people do that, and you’ve got them hypnotized, that’s all.

Isn’t that fascinating? Something must be off the rails if a country does not turn itself out aesthetics. There were 280 thousand bachelors of art graduates in 1947 from the United States. 280 thousand! My God! Think what would have happened if you’d graduated into this country 280 thousand good – artists! The whole face of the United States would have changed.

There’s various methods used. You just capture their perceptic line and you’re the only one in whom they’re on agreement. You’ve just separated their agreement from the rest of the world and they think you’re the only one, see? Very simple.

Now there are things that can be taught, but not the arts. You can teach ‘em engineering, you can teach ‘em something that has any process or procedure; you can get ‘em together and teach them government. You can teach law. You can do a lot of these things, but you can’t teach the arts.

Then be careful never to remind them that there’s any other part of the world with which to agree – don’t do as I do here. I talk about this field and that field and some other field. And it spots it around, and it requires… you… you go all over the doggoned space area, see? Well, that keeps people awake, and it keeps them alert and they keep learning. Otherwise they just get to be a phonograph record. You could just turn them on and they go „Yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap-yap“ and they run the whole lecture off verbatim and they haven’t got anything there at all. All right. Now hypnotism could then selectively vary structure. Anybody for the last 120 years could have carried out this research project. This is not a special project and it’s not anything unroutine. This was carried out as a routine piece of research. Routine.

And there’s where I get the index: How much better could they work? Well, they could work better if they stayed true to their own pretense that they’re a university.

What do you do to a problem to solve it? First you ask the question. Before that you have to assume there’s probably a solution. No reason to work on problems if you don’t think there’s any solution. You just assume there’s a solution, then you go ahead and solve ‘em.

If one went to his own university and if it treated him like that, he would have the right to think and he’d have the right to have an opinion. And he’d have the right to make up his own mind. And he would be there so that information could be made available to him, so he could figure it out.

And then you take the bodies of data that you have and you cut them up in compartments and make sure that the compartments don’t get confused on you. In this case, we cut up structure and function; we didn’t say, „What are we going to use this bridge for?“ and then neglect completely uh… how… what we were going to build it out of. And we didn’t uh… we… we… we… we chopped the problem in half, in other words, so that each half would be all: structure down to function and structure. Function down to function and structure. One or the other probably did it. It certainly wasn’t both, although it could be this third one – it’s a team. Does it respond to teamwork? The hell it does!

And this problem right here would have been licked hundreds and hundreds of years ago, if it hadn’t been for the scholastics and if it hadn’t have been for the modern university. You owe ‘em a great debt – a debt of continued slavery – because they pretended they were responsible for this problem, and they never took responsibility for it.

Guys sick and dying and brokenhearted and insane and unable to heal their bodies and everything else, so it isn’t working as a team.

So, you’ll get all sorts of kick-backs as you go outside of that propaganda. Understand, I’m not trying to destroy the American university as an institution. I think we’ve got to have football, and the more football we have the better.

All right, then therefore, they’re probably separate functions. So let’s… let’s see if we can solve it that way. Hypnotism varied the hell out of the endocrine system; the endocrine system apparently was some kind of a meter. You could look at this meter called the „endocrine system“ and you could tell whether something was happening to somebody.

Anyway, the whole idea here is to restore freedom of action, freedom of thought, freedom to believe, freedom to survive, freedom to know, freedom to be responsible, freedom to create motion, freedom to BE fate, not have to have it. Freedom to win… very interesting. THOSE are freedoms.

So if you varied their mind, you varied their structure. Oh boy! Could you vary their structure. You could take hypnosis and you could selectively shut off, by knowing what these glands influenced, you could shut off that function in the individual.

And funny thing: A man has to be free in order to be those things. And as soon as he starts being owned, he ceases to have them. And one of the first steps is to tell him how nice it is to be owned: „We’ll take full responsibility for you.“

You know you can hypnotize somebody and tell him his nose is running? And… and his nose is running. You can just get torrents of mucus running out of his head, just torrents. He could just take handkerchief after handkerchief after handkerchief, and he’ll just get them sopping. You can start a person perspiring on command, and he’ll sweat and sweat and sweat. You can turn him hot; you can turn him cold; you can extend his hearing; you can contract his hearing. You can do anything of these with hypnotism. And boy, it’s just no good at all to find out what something’s wrong with somebody because they’re non compis mentis when they’re hypnotized. They’re just an effect.

You know, in the Roman Empire, that the consuls and so forth were often pro-consuls, and kids around town. The kids around town, the kind that you see maybe going to a boy scout troop or something like that in this society. How you defeat an abundance of labor. The kids around town, the richer families, the… so on. The more noteworthy children took on the duties of office at 12, 13 and 14. And most of the famous characters that you read about in Roman history, you’re reading about periods of their lives from 15 to 20. That is when the body is growing, it’s vital, it’s progressive and it doesn’t know the word STOP. It doesn’t learn that until it’s about 30. By that time it’s got it, good.

But you set up this thing and you use this and you use it as a meter – a specialized form of use of the structure/function mechanism of the human body. You become the mind, let them be the structure and the somatic mind, or something of the sort.

Now when you look over all of this, the second that a man says, „I have to have some other force than mine own,“ he ceases to be free. An interchange of knowledge can occur, but an interchange in borrowing of force cannot. A state and a people have no business operating on a police basis. They should never… but this is a beautiful police universe. Police, police, police. Every direction you look. Regimentation and policing – very wicked.

Now, can we vary it? Boy, can we vary it! We can make guys fat, we can make guys thin. We can do all sorts of things if you use good hypnotism. But we can’t do it all the time. Why the hell can’t we do it all the time? We find out in the field of structure we can never do it – that’s advisedly stated. It’s just never.

Because people are persuaded to turn over their individual force to something that they are given to understand is superior to their own ability to protect. And that can never be. That’s a snare; that can never be. Nobody’ll look after a man’s own but himself. And nobody’ll look after the property of a group but itself. But if you do that sort of thing, you are proposing anarchy, you’re proposing that you do not have a government by force. But you’re proposing that anybody be given licence in the field of forte main! Oh, no. That, unfortunately, isn’t workable either, unless one has achieved at the same time a level of ethic permissible to have such force in existence.

Take the structural approach of electric shock, that’s structural. They give people electric shock. Do you know they haven’t got a record of electric shock ever doing anything for anybody? There isn’t any record. But they do have a record that says that if they didn’t give people electric shocks, they get out of institutions six weeks earlier.

Fortunately, nobody ever had the adventure or the information to look at it before and find out: Did one’s ethic increase to the degree that he was free above a certain point. No; they looked at a rabble that had always been nailed down, chained down, hangdog, mauled, rolled under Have Not’s, that would suddenly spring free, crawl out of the gutters and sewers and by negative-positive reaction HIT a country, tear it to pieces, throw it back down the time track in havingness, a thousand, two thousand years: The French Revolution.

You know that these figures were never collected? You want to know about criminal acts against humanity – go ahead and practice something without ever getting any statistics – hmmmm. That’s interesting, isn’t it?

And then they say, „Look what happens when you give them freedom. That’s a good reason now why we should use force.“

You know that I have the only survey that was ever impartially – and it was really impartially – done on the subject of electric shock. And I hired a guy to do it. He was not interested in Dianetics; he was not interested in psychiatry. He was an investigation publication man and all we did was get all the results there were on the subject of electric shock, wherever they were published by anyone, anywhere. And we collected them all together and drew them up on charts. Didn’t cast any evaluation on them at all, just drew them on the charts to see what the statistics would say. And I’ve just given you the results. We couldn’t find a case anywhere – just a case nowhere – where electric shock had ever improved anybody.

It was force and the suppression of force which caused that action. It wasn’t the other.

We couldn’t even find out where it had selectively quieted people down. We found out that there was a „three-day period“ in electric shock. You gave them a shock every three days; they stayed very tractable, you know – „Duhhh!“

A man’s freedom, then, cannot be a halfway thing. You cannot compromise or quibble with the freedom of a man. If there is a perfect form of government, that form of government would be anarchy. Everybody has agreed to this. An anarchy, however, would have to be built out of individuals who were capable, each one, of complete self-government, an impossible condition in the past. If each person were capable of complete self-government and capable of taking responsibility utterly for his own acts, you would have, for the first time, a basis of ethic.

Now anybody can make a corpse. You can do it with a bullet, but you don’t call bullets therapeutic. You see? So we had to define what’s therapeutic. But you say you can make the person better. Well, did it calm him down and make him happy or anything? No, definitely not.

And the other way around, you would only have a moral, and a moral code is no good. An ethical code can be depended upon, because if you have an ethical code, you only have it as long as it exists. And it exists only as long as a man has enough strength not to himself be afraid.

It gave him a terror of electricity, though. Fixed him up so he wouldn’t use force in any category, made him shed all responsibility for everything. Uh… did interesting things.

And any time he is susceptible to terror, you’re going to lose your ethic. And the only time a man gets afraid is when he loses his belief in himself and his trust in himself.

You can rehabilitate an electric shock – by the way, the way you repair elec… electric shocks aren’t serious… the way you repair it is just rehabilitate the guy’s ability to mock-up force, that’s all. You don’t even address the electric shocks. He’ll feel a buzz in his head once in a while when you’re doing this, and you just keep mocking up force – standard routine mock-up processing. Electric shock is simply electricity.

And every criminal you find in an institution went on the road to crime in one direction only and at one moment only: when he lost his own self-respect. You can go check that, and you’ll find out that that is uniformly the case. And if you want to rehabilitate the criminal, rehabilitate his self-respect. One day he suddenly found out he couldn’t trust himself any more and from that moment on he became a criminal because it did not matter now what he did.

First thing you know – Room! There goes all the electric shocks in the bank. They don’t go suddenly or anything. They just cease to have any effect upon him. So they are really pantywaist when it came to hurting people too. They weren’t even tough enough to hurt people. Prefrontal lobotomy? Fix the guy up so he gets another body.

And in a gradient scale, you have a modern society.

Uh… okay. Now uh… they’re not dangerous. I talk about it merely because it’s a…

Now what then is your level that is an attainable level for freedom? It would have to be a level which is so high that every man could reason and be responsible in his own right, for his own acts. And also for the acts of others.

There… there’s only one thing that really outrages me. I… I get outraged just because I can’t believe it. It just won’t fit into the frame uh… uh of reasoning. It… It’s just one of those things that I’ve always been completely unable to see, is why can’t somebody solve that problem? Uh… this… these problems are all easy, they’re just… just so easy. And yet, something like… you… there’s somebody… he’s in… he’s in bad trouble, see? He’s in bad trouble – he’s starving to death. He… he’s… he hasn’t got anything to eat and he’s getting skin and bone and there he sits. And all that he’s got in front of him is a whole ham and loaves of bread and so forth. And he’s unable to solve the problem of how to get it into his mouth.

Blame-regret, blame-regret is the course of a police state. And its spiral dwindles down and dwindles very rapidly. So there’s no halfway point on this scale. You can’t cut it off here and say we’ve done a good job and reformed the whole world. You can’t cut it off here at ‘A’; you can’t cut it off at ‘B’. You’ve just got to go ahead and put the guy into shape so he can handle himself and his force. You can patch up somebody and make him well. That’s what you were straining against in auditing. You see, you broke agreement with the first book, you broke agreement with the MEST universe to – this degree: to about 4.0. You said, „Look, it says I have to have engrams and I have to have things that force me to do various things. And look: I can run them out. As fast as they happen… bad things happen to me, I can run them out.“

You say, „No! That’s complete idiocy!“

And you were disagreeing with the mandates of the physical universe to that extent. But that extent ceases at 4.0, and from there on up it requires another process.

So you go at that problem. Anybody who wants to backtrack on that work will find them very interesting material on it. And that’s covered rather full in Book One. It tells the various things you can do to somebody to stop this and start that. So it means what? That there’s some kind of a mechanism by which, if you can get some guy to agree, why then anything can happen. You could make him believe anything if he’ll agree with it. Haaaa! Hmmmm! He has to be in a special state.

That’s why, immediately, homo sapiens can go to 4.0 on DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH and the SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL. But he can’t go anyplace above that without having his self-determinism restored to him. He becomes well, he becomes better able to reason, but I have not seen what I had hoped to see because unfortunately it can’t exist: an ethical, strong, homo sapiens. And if it can’t exist, let’s go up here.

All of a sudden you just take a look at the human race – we’re trying to unhypnotize people. We’re trying to wake people up, and it’s simply that: we’re trying to make them higher and higher alert.

Gee, you’re clear up to about a potential of 36, 38 before you can get a full level susceptible to good ethic. An ethic is that which is enforced by oneself, his belief in his own honor and good reason and optimum solution along the eight dynamics; that’s ethics.

I… I dare say someday we may have a process which… by which some magical formula or other we simply say… we simply say, „All right, now here you are in a hypnotized state with regard to life and existence, and you’re in a little bit better, more awake condition at this moment than you ordinarily are, but there’s a much awaker condition than this, and the way you awaken somebody out of this condition is to count from five to one and snap your fingers. And if you count from five to one and snap your fingers, a person wakes all the way up. Now when I count from five to one and snap my fingers, you will awake. Five, four, three, two, one – wake up!“ The guy comes into full consciousness. There might be such a… such a process. It would head in that direction.

And morals is somebody who sticks a spear into your belly or a sepulchre over your head, hides a boogey man back of a chair, tells you nothing and says, „You’ve got to do it because the unseen Gods…“ There’s no difference between a taboo and a moral. This language is even beginning to go to pieces, because in the dictionaries of today, unlike the dictionaries of just a hundred years ago, a moral is defined as an ethic, and an ethic is defined as a moral in the modern dictionary. Ahhh, they’ve even lost the philosophic definition for an ethic.

By the way, you once in a while do that to a preclear and he gets very startled. „Doiing! The lights just turned up!“ Something like this. All right.

You don’t think he’s bad off? He’s bad off. Homo sapiens at 4.0 is a lot better than homo sapiens has ever been. But homo sapiens at 4.0 compared to a level which you would… desirable ethical, it has to measure up to the potentialities of the being, and at 4.0 he is much, much, much less than a 100 thousandths of his proper horsepower, and it’s too fine and too small a strength to be able to stand up to the winds of the world, and the howling o… yells of all the fears of the universe. It’s too much, that strength out there, in here; it’s too cold for homo sapiens or it’s too hot, or it’s too scarce. He can be killed too easily. As a consequence, this big, blustering universe can look at him and say, „You don’t dare be ethical. You’re afraid.“

So that’s the kind of modus operandi in which we worked and out of this we discovered something which you can use today. There is a gimmick in the environment called a restimulator. You give a guy an hypnotic implant and you tell him to play with his tie. You tell him any time you play with your tie, he’ll do so and so and then you wake him up. So you adjust your tie, and he does so and so. And pretty soon he says, „I wonder what I’m doing this for? Well, I explain it this way…“ And he’s got some wild explanation that has no bearing on your tie.

And so he is; he’s afraid.

For instance, you’ve said, „Every time I touch my tie,“ when he’s hypnotized, „every time I touch my tie, you will now… you will cough.“

Now, when you get into knowingness, then, and when you get into an allowable band, these here, Survive, Right, Full Responsible… do you know that a man really doesn’t dare be right? What would happen if you went out determined to be right for 24 hours? What would it mean that you’d have to be right every time that you said anything, did anything, mentioned anything? You couldn’t be polite; you’d have to say what you meant. Hah! You’d be shot in your tracks before you got out of here.

Okay. So every time you touch your tie he says, „Aha-ahum,“ he says, „awfully drafty out, don’t you think?“

Typical behavior of homo sapiens: Two elevators in the hotel are both sticking this morning. Girl gets on, she fusses all the way down, she’s fussing, damning, oh, cursing around terribly because one of these elevators is sticking, and both of them are, really, and misses floors and all that sort of thing. She’s going to really give the management a piece of her mind. And she walks over to the desk and she picks up her morning mail, and she says to this little tiny meek clerk, she said uh… „I suppose you’re fixing the elevators?“

And you say……

And the clerk said, „Yes,“ and she dropped it at that. Real brave, homo sapiens, real brave. He knows it doesn’t do any good.

And he says, „Aha-ahum.“ Fascinating. And he just keeps this up and you finally wear the button out.

Well, let’s ask the same question: What the hell is this girl doing needing an elevator?

Two things you learned: the button can be worn out, and you can have some kind of a gimmick like a tie which will start a guy coughing. Hah!

So, this is a rough universe. You’d have to be able to handle the majority of forces in it before you could stand up to it and never be afraid. Or you would have to hold inside yourself a piece of courage that would be strained and tortured beyond all belief in an effort to be courageous enough to take this universe.

But what’s he do? First he rationalizes very generally, then he narrows the rationalization – decides it’s in the room. Then he narrows the room to you and starts to find a little bit of fault maybe with your clothes. And all of a sudden he’ll look at your tie and he’ll suddenly remember and he’ll go „Boom!“

I believe the people who are alive today are by far the more courageous ones because this universe really dishes the boys in who aren’t.

„Oh, it’s that tie! You told me when I was asleep so-and-so, that I would cough every time you touched your tie! Aw, nuts!“

Now we’ve got here two tracks. And we might as well split them off into two tone scales. We’ll draw this line down here – Y-Z, and we’ll show the difference between these two things just by dividing it. And I don’t know what the scale over here would be. I haven’t got any idea, because that’s all up to you. This scale might start here at something like 40 where you made space, but you always had to have an object before you made a space, which might put 40 there. Or both of those might be 40 for you; or you might have 0.0 here. –

Now that means then that behavior can be transmitted to somebody who is put under a heavy current, and so on, a monotonous current inflow. And he could be put into this state. Doesn’t matter much whether you shot him in the face with a gun and said, „You’re dead“ or you shot him in the face with a gun with a blank cartridge in it and said, „You’re dead.“ Most of the time he’d die if you said, „You’re dead.“

And as you went up to… say you got too much space in your universe, you might go into minus 8 as a penalty. And you might have a little square that… „When you move into this you go back eight steps.“ I don’t know what’s on this side. That… that’s… that’s your universe. I haven’t got any idea of what would be in that or how you’d figure things out.

You get the level of operation, then. It’s just an inflow – boom! It doesn’t matter whether it happens fast. If it happens very fast, you could implant it quick. If it happens slow, you implant it more slowly. It operates in any case.

I do know this, however, that it’d be very interesting. But over here on the MEST universe side, you bet your life, I know what’s over here: 0.0-20.0. It’s taken me 25 years to find out what’s over there. It wasn’t that it was a tough problem; it was too incredibly simple. And you always kept overshooting its complexity, always kept overshooting it.

A man can be knocked out with drugs, he can be knocked out with a blow. He can be hypnotized by physical pain, or by over-perception. Any of these things. So we add these… all these things up and you say, „For heaven’s sakes, these people are going around and they’re falling down and they’re getting unconscious and people are saying, „Well, he’s pretty bad off, and he’s awfully sick! Let’s see if we can dig up any of these experiences when somebody’s unconscious and find out if this is a hypnotic state.“ And you say, „Look at these people are going around and they do act as though they had restimulators in their environment. They… somebody comes in a perfectly warm room and says, „My, how cold it is,“ and that’s terribly aberrated behavior. And I keep observing it at all hands. And I wonder if it has something to do with this ‘pin mechanism’, the restimulator, which is the tie in the hypnotic incident.“

The secret of the MEST universe was, there was no secret.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let’s knock ‘em out colder than a mackerel with physical cause and physical reasons, and we’ll just avoid all the ritual and mumbo-jumbo of hypnotism and we will say, „Whenever I touch my tie, you will cough.“ And they come out of it groggily. And you know, they… they… they just don’t quite uh… you touch your tie and they just look a little uncomfortable – nothing.

So, we get here and we come up the line. Well, theoretically a person would go from this point over here… this point uh… ‘N’ and he’d go up here where this parabola, or whatever it is, hits this ‘Y-Z’ line. This would be area… area ‘T’ for Transit. And uh… as a person’s tone rose, his freedom would rise and he’d go up to that area, according to graph… fortunately you don’t really go according to graphs, you see. You could theoretically go up and through that area and down this side again. That Isn’t possible.

And then you say, „Well, uh… speaking of ties……“

But there is a way that… because, you see, it isn’t possible to transit at the top there, because it’s a… It’s a what? See, you wouldn’t be able to tell where this space started and ended that was your universe and the MEST universe, and you could get very, very mixed up about space up there at that point, ‘T’. And therefore, time would go screwy, and so on.

And the fellow says, „What? Ahem!“

So what you’re doing is an entirely different operation. You’re actually postulating a 0.0 in your universe, and you’re doing… doing mock-ups in your universe at first, comparable to, or less than, the… the stability of mock-ups in this universe.

And you say, „Well, I was just talking about clothing – ties and that sort of thing.“

So you’re doing a jump here from the right-hand side of this curve… to the left-hand side of the curve to the right-hand side of the curve, see? Own… the physical universe curve. You’re doing things over here on the Own – universe curve which are comparable. You’re doing the same comparability. You’re not building a universe. You’re just practicing over here on your Own universe curve.

„Ahem!“

„What do you know?“ several people say, „It’s a funny thing it’s happening, but the MEST universe isn’t… doesn’t seem to be getting any more real… unreal; a lot of things I’ve run in it. But you know these things I mock up! Boy, are they getting real! They really look good“ and so forth. And, „I’d sure hate to get rid of that… I sure hated to get rid of that. That… that was… that was real nice“ – uh… that… that sort of thing. Picking up more and more and more and more and more and more.

And you say, „Uh……“

And of course, when one is able to do that, all the way over, he can actually flash back on to this side and if he’s gotten himself parked here – 20.0… 20.0. Supposing he’s 20.0 on this mock curve – this Own Universe curve. See, you’re not building your own universe. That’s just its curve, that’s just a practice curve. So if you’re opposite 20.0 on the MEST universe curve, and you’re 20.0 over on this side, what are you gonna get?

And he goes, „Ahem!“

Very fascinating, because you’d probably be able to rig up a blonde in an evening gown down in the street and men would come by and they’d say, „Gee! Ha!“ – tip their hats – that’s theoretically. That’s what would happen.

There’s another condition necessary then. Ho-ho! There’s a thing has to happen called a key-in. When the unconsciousness is way deep, in order to get it into an action strata, there has to be a lock sitting on the very deep one.

You’d get way up into forms of action, you’d be able to interchange images. But that’s just a practice curve. So what’s the curve of your own universe? Now that’d be another curve over here, and I don’t care how it would go – torsional G space for all I know.

So you’ve got the engram but it doesn’t key in; it just sits there until somebody comes along and mentions it in such a way as to sort of trigger that into a higher level of consciousness. But it’ll still lie there as an unconscious experience.

But when you’re all up the line, and so on, why you’re up there. Well before you get to that point, ‘T’… well before you get to ‘T’, you should be able to throw things up, which at least to you are superior, vastly superior in quality, depth, intricacy, design and interest, far superior to MEST universe. And in view of the fact that you’re doing this as a thetan, any… most any time you could part company with a body. I mean, you’ve got reality on that, a lot of you.

Do they wear out like hypnosis? Oh, yes, yep! You can wear this button out just like you can wear out hypnosis. Hmmm. Well, let’s just have him go over it again. And the guy remembers it all. At first he remembers just the beginning, and then the end. And then he remembers the rest of it. And then there’s more of it and then more of it. And what do you know! The button wears right on out.

But at the end of three weeks, you certainly better have better than just a little reality on it. You’d better be out and clear. There isn’t any reason why you can’t be. There isn’t… I haven’t seen a hard case in this whole class.

And you finally says… you finally mention „ties,“ he doesn’t cough. You touch your tie; he doesn’t cough.

All right, the uh… you’re doing a comparative level. Well, now these concepts which are here on the Chart of Attitudes don’t tell you anything about the quality of a mock-up, except in a highly generalized way. But they tell you… when you say, ‘Chart of Attitudes, MEST universe’, that gives you an ideal state of being, Or man, or something of the sort.

And what’s he do when he finally discovers what you’ve done to him in the hypnotic incident? He says, „Aww, nuts! That’s why I was coughing!“

And over on your own universe, the mock-curve… practice mock-curve, what you’re trying to attain in a mock-up is the following:

And with that same incident, you can turn on streams of mucus out of somebody’s nose. You can… you can completely regulate their endocrine system in the most selective way. You could say, „Now, look. This stuff testosterone is bad, see. Your body can’t absorb it. When you get a shot, it gives you no lift up sexually. Sexually, you’re dead, fellow.“

You want to be able to survive; it should be right; it should take full responsibility for what it’s doing and you take full responsibility for it. You should be able to own all. You should be able to make anything that approximates anything. You should be able to make it continue on an ‘Always’ basis, or have ‘Always’ there; in other words, all kinds of time. You should have things which are motion sources in there. The level of truth of that universe ought to be good. You would BE faith in that universe; or your mock-ups, as far as faith is concerned, you would probably rely on a mock-up a heck of a lot quicker than you’d ever rely on a piece of MEST. I mean that seriously. You’d just rely on the mock-up.

Two ways to do it: one is kick him in the genitals – that’s correct. Just as an injury of that selective line, all of a sudden interrupts the testosterone balance of his system and keeps it interrupted long after you’d think that injury should have been set up. Or you can simply slug him out and tell him so. Two methods – both of them highly effective.

That’s not bad; if you can create a Cadillac which can outrun Cadillacs, I think you’d depend upon your Cadillac. Get the idea? But if you were really up at the top of the mock-up curve, you’ve made a Cadillac, you would drive your Cadillac much in preference to a Cadillac. You get the idea? It sounds strange, it sounds peculiar, but if you were doing that, and you really set out to make a Cadillac, yours would be a better Cadillac, for you.

As long as we have the mind going unconscious when it happens. Otherwise, nothing happens, except some kind of a little key-in or something.

Actually, you think a MEST universe is good? Uh-uh. It takes gas; it’s scarce; it costs money.

Well, if we run it through enough times it wears out, the endocrine system turns on again. Function is monitoring structure. What do you know, we got engrams.

Now the level of knowingness. You would know what the beingness and other things were of this universe – your universe, your mock-up. There is a knowingness about your mock-up. You could make a mock-up that knows or you would know everything that was about the mock-up. And as far as knowledge was concerned, you would have the knowledge down pat that required. There would be a knowingness, a feeling of knowing, about these things. You would be cause, you wouldn’t be effect.

Now we can operate on this guy; we can shoot this guy full of hormones; we can talk to him about this; we can talk to him about that. We can hypnotize him to heal it, or we can feed him religion. And he doesn’t get well!

Or you could make a mock-up that was cause for a lot of things. You would have reached ‘I am’ – full beingness – and you would be able to win. The easiest way to win is to be both sides. You’d be able to start things, terrific differentiation, a very good state of being. You had to be able to make all the space you wanted, so forth. –

You can go out and you can say, „Now look. If you just believe in the great god Throg-Magog, and so on, you can put this whole god over alongside of you and he’ll monitor you and he’ll tell you what to do after this.“ And it’ll just work out fine for a couple of days and then the guy will spin – zing! He’ll really spin because he’s made something else responsible, of course, as we know now.

That… that’s just your goals of identity or identification or individuality of your mock-ups and their character and quality.

All right, the great god Throg-Magog, then, could handle him for a couple of days and then handle him no more. Then he just goes downhill and downhill.

I know it sounds terribly upsetting to you when I say something like Cadillac. Actually, you would he… probably never mock up a Cadillac. Anybody who wants to go around and mock up a Cadillac and then drive it, of course, would finally find himself faced with the fact that he didn’t have license tags on the thing. He’d have to… he’d… it’s not a practical solution.

So what? All of these duress or control therapies – structures, unconsciousnesses, hypnotism, medicine – in no case would alleviate a condition. They would hold it in suspension or hold it in abeyance in some fashion or another. But in the presence of a mental block on the subject, nothing could be done!

You… you’d have to put motor numbers on and serial numbers and persuade somebody in the Cadillac company that they built it. You get how the universe works a guy in? Well, heck! You wouldn’t want to do that then, unless you built a Cadillac which had the potentialities of a General Sherman tank and which, of course, had bullet-proof windows, had a turret gun in the top of the thing, and which would go down the road at 180 miles an hour. Then it would be perfectly safe to own that Cadillac, and so forth, with no license plates, no serial number. When you’re building in contests, you’ve got to build senior to, and that’s always a good process.

If mister has gotten his back broken because he’s got an engram about his back, it would be the same thing as though you told this fellow under hypnosis he had to go out and get his back broken. Same thing. And you told him forcefully enough and that he had to have an injured back, and it was necessary to his survival to have an injured back, and everybody feels so sorry for him to have it, and make it very desirable to have an injured back, he’d go out and break his back.

Now the funny part of this universe is that when you mock something up – way back on the track, see, you’ve had terrific experience with this. You… it’s just lost, because you kept putting ‘em into competition with the MEST universe and then agreeing with the MEST universe. Then you put this thing into competition and you’d mock up this girl. And you didn’t have much experience so you didn’t know what a girl should look like. And the MEST universe’d come along – you thought it was the MEST universe – some other thetan’d come along! Beautiful mock-up of a girl. Oh, lovely. Oh, gee! And you’d go – „Boy, that’s really something! And this… this thing of mine? Naw.“

And what do you know? You heal it up and you could strap it up and heal it up and fix it up any way you wanted to and it wouldn’t get well, and it wouldn’t get well, and it wouldn’t get well until you pulled the doggoned incident.

And then there’s a certain sort of feeling about something you haven’t made yourself to it, that furnishes interest. You have to have something somebody else has.

Now you can ha… do that. And the tests… we’re on such things as a cut finger. You’d knock the guy out and cut his finger and then tell him how valuable that finger cut was, and tell him he should get his finger cut. Just put a little pain in it, don’t hurt it any. But give him enough pain so he’s got pain on the unconsciousness. And out he goes, and hurts his finger. And he’ll hurt his finger, and he’ll hurt his finger – and he’ll hurt his finger, and he’ll hurt his finger. And every time he hurts his finger he gets another engram. Hmmm. He gets more sympathy too. Hmmm.

A lot of idiocy in this because you wasn’t educated, fella! You was ignorant. In fact, you was stupid! You talk about the gullibility of an early track thetan. We’ve never mentioned this before because he’s in a state of capability of knowingness; he didn’t have any data. Oh, boy! Was he stupid! Somebody’d come around to him and say, „You just won a contest!“ And he says, „I did?!“

In other words, it’s getting deeper and deeper and deeper, and worse and worse and worse, all the way down the line.

Well, now fortunately, you don’t have to keep an education in terms of facsimiles. You can just park it as knowingness.

So we’ve got the same mechanism at work and they can be worn out. But they require key-ins just like hypnotism does. And you can run all of these various experiments and you’ll find them very productive. And you’ll find out you can run incidents like locks, and you can run locks wholesale. You can scan ‘em, you can run all sorts of things all over the place, and you won’t have any trouble with them.

In SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL we had something about theta enturbulates with MEST, and then frees itself from MEST with a knowingness of what MEST is; that’s in SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL. It impinges itself too heavily upon MEST and then withdraws. And then it’ll impinge itself and withdraw, and impinge itself and withdraw. And that cycle goes down until it knows all there is to know about MEST.

Now on the assist, for God’s sake, don’t forget the assist because it’s one of the best ways to handle something – an immediate injury. Boy, you can get that thing down, bang!

Well, we don’t know all there is to know about MEST, but you don’t have to know all there is about MEST.

But there’s what’s known as a creative processing assist. Give him new thumbs, if he’s hurt his thumb. Process parts of the body: mock up parts of the body, get superfluity on parts of the body, lots of ‘em. Break the back of the MEST universe motto, „It shall be scarce!“ And break the back on it. And the way you do that is just that, by giving the guy an abundance of mock-up.

You pull out an awful lot of information right now. What a cagey character you would be – boy! If you… did you ever hear of this? This old guy, he’s standing outside the high school and he’s looking at all these beautiful young girls walking out. He’s standing there, wise and old, and old and very old. And he says, „Boy, if I was only 16 again and know what I know now.“

You see, the mock-up is more real than actuality as some people here are finding out. „You know, this MEST universe isn’t very real. But these mock-ups I’m getting are beautifully real.“

Yes, yes. You’re in the same position as that old viper. You actually can look at these precious morsels, but you have a knowingness about it. Never discount it. You’d better pick up your full track knowingness. The only way you do this, by the way, is just run mock-ups about not knowing, and so forth – knowing and not knowing and so on.

Now of course, you get somebody… you back somebody up, you have to know where you’re backing them to. And we find out, all of a sudden, you’re backing them to a high level of self-determinism and yet we find out to stop at a short point on self-determinism is almost… is quite undesirable.

How do you mock up knowing and not knowing? Well, I’ll have to tell you all about that in the second lecture tonight. Transposition of symbols to language… how do… language… what does it become and why.

So you have to get him up to a high level of self-determinism where he is a good, ethical being as well as a very strong one. And we find out he has to be a very strong being in order to be an ethical being. And uh… so that sort of has to solve itself in that direction.

All right, knowingness, then, doesn’t really depend upon data, and there is a basic knowingness that is you that exists without wave length. It’s a funny thing to say, but it’s true. The capability of knowingness is all at the same level: The amount of data which can absorb, changes. A person can be very naive and way up tone scale, and then he becomes sadder and wiser. And for the first time in this universe, really, homo sapiens has been able to take the knowledge gained and back out. That’s very valuable. In other words, you don’t have to keep on digging in.

And we’ve moved right straight out of structure entirely. The second the guy can handle all force, he can handle structure. He can have it or not have it at will. He can step out of his head and mock up some structure, and he can do it well enough so that somebody will have to accept it. You can do a much better job than this universe, by the way.

It may even be… it may even be your track is sort of going according to plan. I mean, this might be the exit depot. You don’t know; it might be. Maybe I don’t tell you everything. Maybe this is all science fiction I tell you, anyway.

Now, you could continue to live in confluence with your friends. You could continue to live in the MEST universe. You could continue to do all sorts of things. But with this knowledge and this information you could bail yourself out. That’s important. With the data which has been accumulated on this, you can bail yourself out. There isn’t much that you can get into that you can’t get yourself out of, even if you’re all by yourself. These processes will work actually, on yourself, all by yourself.

By the way, I… I hope it gets lots of publicity as such. Boy, it’ll make you guys free for a long time.

So we’ve gone on up the line to a collection of data, and this data is very brief, but really – it’s there. It’s just all roads lead to Rome on the thing. Self-determinism and that’s Q-l.

One day, one of you’ll get very ambitious and pick up five yellow cabs as they come down. You couldn’t get a yellow cab, you couldn’t get a yellow cab, and you finally say, „Damn these yellow cabs!“ And instead of mocking up a yellow cab, you suddenly pick up the first yellow cab, and you get the second yellow cab and the third yellow cab and you put them up on the top of one of the high buildings around – turn their motors off so they don’t skid and run off the top of the building, and leave them there. People say, „Who did this?“

And… but – look at the basic datum: what was Man trying to do? He had the answer to that: he’s trying to survive. That sounds kind of silly, „He’s just trying to survive,“ but that’s right. That’s all he’s trying to do. There’s no reason why he’s trying to survive. It’s just a game, it’s something to do and he got in too deep. And then he got to be a broken piece and then nobody could help him out. Then he couldn’t help himself out, so somebody had to bail him out. I think he could’ve helped himself out, myself.

Well, we’re going to issue a lot of little cards and have the little cards say, „You have abandoned your godliness.“ It’s a good motto: Abandoned your godliness. You don’t say what the godliness is, but everybody thinks they know what you’re talking about, and you know darn we’ll what you’re talking about.

Now, uh… the data accumulated showed us a heck of a lot of things and all of these things were of the highest importance maybe, at one time or another, uh… as processes. But fortunately, you don’t have to know all these trick processes. But you do have to know the phenomena, because you’ll encounter the phenomena and their… you have to know that direct address of phenomena is an agreement with the MEST universe that it exists. So you have to back up from that phenomenon.

It’s true too.

So under processing we get, of course, the Auditor’s Code, how is it done? It’s done from a high level – that could also be called the Code of How to Be Civilized – it’s done from a very high level of ethic. Not from a moral… when you start to get victimized by the Auditor’s Code it has become a moral code to you, because it’s no longer reasonable, because it’s damaging one dynamic. But don’t bust it as a straight break, because that is even more damaging. There is an ethical way of handling all of this. And the best way is to be so strong that you wouldn’t have any inclination to. And you start to help somebody out, they just get helped out, poor fellow.

All right. And then, all of a sudden, why it will become something else than that. Actually, incredibility is the finest guise in the world for a secret. It’s too incredible; nobody believes it. How do you suppose this MEST universe got itself covered up? At every stage you’ve been in, any other stage was too incredible. You see, that’s that win… backflow. If you’ve got to believe, if it’s enforced belief, there’s also going to be inhibited belief. And when the guy really got down scale he couldn’t possibly get out because he had inhibited belief. He had to distrust. When he tried to believe he’d distrust. And you wonder why people down along that lower band of the scale can’t believe in any god. Why, no god’s safe in their hands. They can’t believe.

And the fellow says, „Well, yap, yap, yap.“

So, get this action, then. Let’s get the quality of these things. You’ll find all of these things delineated in your textbook. You’ll find they do consist of a fairly good state of being. They also describe, to some degree, the quality of a mock-up. If you couldn’t make a mock-up… a year from now, if you’re not able to make a mock-up senior to you as you sit there, that can do more and act faster in your universe, I’ll disown you – (I think I’ll disown you anyway).

And you say, „Huh?“

Now, let’s then take a look at this Chart of Attitudes and let’s give you right quick, instead of all this persiflage, let’s give you right quick Rising Scale Processing. How many minutes have I got on that thing? Student: Umm, about a half an hour. LRH: Good. Just right. Time clock’s doing well.

„Well, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap.“

Rising Scale Processing: This is the use to which you put the Chart of Attitudes, and is a method of changing postulates, not a method of running flows. This is, in essence, the essence of Postulate Processing. Postulate Processing is the process or any process which permits an individual to change his postulates – except old engrams. You run out some old engrams and… and of course you change the postulates in it.

You say, „Poor guy, you really mean it.“ It doesn’t bother you.

But uh… this doesn’t talk about that. This is willfully changing postulates. The first thing you’ve got to do is get the person up to a point where they’re flexible with their postulates and fast with them. You do this with mock-ups and so on. And one day – the guy can get almost perfect mock-ups – almost perfect – but… he starts… he says, „I keep running into this or that.“ Or, „I’ve got to change my mind about this.“ Or, „I’ve got to do something else about that.“

He runs all around the neighborhood, he says, „You know that auditor down there, he’s just terrible. He does horrible things,“ and so forth. „Beautiful women go in there day and night. You know, he really, all horrible things happen in that place – terrible. Very immoral and all that sort of thing.“

Well, what you do… what he’s doing is changing postulates. He’ll find out that he starts to do something and he recognizes all of a sudden he can’t do it, and he will just suddenly go, „Rrrrrrr!“ and change this postulate and that postulate and so on. And wipe those postulates out and – make a new postulate. And all of a sudden he’ll say, „Aw, that’s all right. Yeah, I’ve got the lights back up again now. Now she’s doing the rumba.“ He had all these postulates about dancing, and he had this girl and she went around with him, and it was very embarrassing. Every time they went to a nightclub or something of this sort, this mock-up… – rumba would come along and he couldn’t dance with her; she couldn’t rumba, so he… you’d change that. How do you change that? You had to change his postulates that she couldn’t rumba. That dancing was evil; that dancing should be religious; uh… yap-yap-yap-yap. And he’ll. he’ll. just change postulates – Brrrrr!

If you’re tough enough and you radiate far enough, do you know that the neighbors wouldn’t uh… wouldn’t even be disturbed. Doubtful, though, in this society. One has to assume there’s something there, and so on.

That is the process of the thetan. The thetan simply creates by making postulates. He uncreates by changing postulates and unmaking postulates. There is this drill about starting, increasing, decreasing and stopping thought chains… is beneficial in assisting one’s ability to make postulates and uncreate postulates. If you can’t handle your thought flow, if you’ve got a stream of consciousness running, you’re going to have a hard time with postulates.

All right. Now in page 38 here we have the Theta Entity and the Theta Entity is a misnomer. There is no such thing as the Theta Entity. It’s a typist error, uh… and it might not be in the book. It should have been caught. What’s meant there is the Thetan. We know about that. Uh… the entities? They’re ridges on which facsimiles are planted and I was drawing you some pictures in a recent lecture about all these squares and – compartments across the top. Each one of those things can be a thinking entity. It thinks it’s alive. It can think as a being as long as energy is fed to it.

So what’s Rising Scale Processing? It is one of the phases of Postulate Processing which enables a preclear well before he is uptone – oh hell! – this will work on a VI, it’ll work on a V case – is to shift his postulates. And he does this by rising scale, not by running flows – that’s different. A flow is a flow in, a flow out, a flow in, a flow out. All right, let’s just change postulates.

Always remember that one: as long as energy is fed to it, it can think and act as a being. Therefore, if you, quote, pay attention to it, it will think and act. You start talking to an entity and, of course, it talks back. With what energy? Yours.

Now what do we do about postulates? Let’s look at this list for the Chart of Attitudes. Now we have here Survive and Dead. Now what’s that mean? Well, it means that, just like this, we have… Survive is somewhere between 22 and 40. Of course, above 40 the idea of survival is just nonsense. How could anything immortal not survive?

Now the auditor can actually start talking to an entity and energize it, just as people in a person’s environment energize his entities very often. They come in and energize an entity and they get him dispersing and doing this and that. They actually are blowing energy at an entity. And it’s apparently thinking, acting – that’s the way they control him. That’s a beautiful control mechanism.

That’s one of the grimmest tricks in the world. You see, you happen to be immortal, and worried about surviving; it’s a typical reverse flow trick of this universe. You’re actually worried hour by hour and day by day about surviving and you’re immortal! All you object to is when you don’t survive, why you forget; something takes away from you hard enough for you not to remember. And as a result you get upset. And what you’re really upset is not about surviving at all, but about knowing. You hate to be in a state of unknowingness. You knew you were there, but you knew you were not supposed to know you were there. You know all about it. You take the Battle of Trafalgar, you know. You know how many men were aboard the ship and how many killed and wounded there were and how… how many dispatches were written up to send them up the river and… and all that sort of thing.

The entities will have the damnedest facsimiles on them, and they’ll apparently be stuck on the time track someplace. Each one different from every other one. That’s because of the various ridges on which facsimiles are planted. And that’s all an entity is.

And by the way, this is wonderful science fiction, just wonderful science fiction. God help science fiction writers! God help them! Boy, do they key in. I think of poor old Paget. (I’ll use his pen name – big gag). Poor old Paget. He’s a shaking wreck! He’s a ruin.

You can blow an entity to pieces any time you want. Every once in a while you get the strangest spooky notion that there’s other thetans. And every once in a while in a preclear you’ll get some very, very decadent thetan out of him.

You guys know this fellow. You know his stories under a lot of other guises than Paget, and he’s a ruin. He sits there at the typewriter and he types and he thinks he’s disagreeing like mad with the MEST universe. He’s running away from the MEST universe; he’s d… writing escape literature.

You take a look and he’ll say, „You know, that’s a funny thing. There’s a glow that’s of a very low order on a ridge and I can’t seem to handle that ridge. And I don’t seem to be able to do anything with that ridge.“

I picked up one of his stories recently and started reading the history of a ship which is very well known – EXTREMELY well known. And he’s just varied its history. He hasn’t varied a line. He actually is sitting there writing escape literature and, of course, he’s digging in deeper and deeper and deeper, and he’s getting worse and worse. They have to take him in and doctors will sometimes take and give him a course of B1 shots. And they’ll give him 1 or 200 milligrams of B1 every couple of hours to keep him alive. And he’s that bad off.

You say, „Is there anything else on it?“

And then he goes back and he works a little bit harder and he works a little bit harder and he works a little bit harder and all of a sudden Wham! B1, B1, rest, rest. Sit down by the seashore, be… take it quiet, take it easy, take it easy. And then he says, „Well, I think I’ll write some more of that escape literature“ and uh… zong! There he goes again. He’s coughing. He can’t stand the sight of a camera…

„Yeah.“

I don’t know how long that boy was on the track, or how many spirals, but boy, he’s sure writing ancient history. It’s all dated up in the future, too. He’ll date something up in the future and then he’ll get very careful he doesn’t date it. He actually uses actual dates. He’s playing the very… most wonderful game with himself of not to know.

„Well, now detach that thing. Well, you got that thing detached there? Well now detach the whole ridge and throw it away.“

If you were to put him on uh… if you were to put any of these boys, by the way, on a machine gun you would get something fascinating. You’d get… „Now all right. Now let’s talk about uh… space.“ Space opera, you see, is a very minor point in this universe. Don’t think that it is major at all, because it is not major. And for most people, it is not even part of the track. Space opera is not part of the track at all for most people. It’s only the degraded, the burns, the stiffs, the cliffs, the gyps, the McGees – and the floaters, the flotsam and jetsam, the guy who has rammed around and fallen flat on his face and so on. That… that’s space opera. God! These guys… I could tell you that story of that track… I… I j… I don’t think it would go into English. There are a lot of words in English that are missing. It’s just too wild. And it’s… it’s peculiar… it’s a peculiar story. A very highly specialized story.

They actually will be occasionally, but they’re not active.

The other track comes right straight down on the subject of planets, and uh… in some preclears’ life it’s just fascinating. You find him leading this cozy little home life, and he’s been in this cottage and they were on that farm. And then he was in this city as a little minor tradesman. And in some other place, why, he drove a truck and… and so on. There’s cities and things – nothing shiny. Just pastoral and pretty – nothing to it.

Preclears will also have the idea that they’re hanging around the backs of their necks. They’ve got old currents and old ridges will go into vibration. And they start thinking about the backs of their necks and, of course, any ridge that’s on the backs of their necks will go into vibration. And they get the idea that entities or… or en-thetans – ah, that’s a wonderful word – en-thetans are creeping up on them and crawling up on them, and that they’re being mobbed by this and that and so on. They can be very convinced about this, by the way; and that they’re… they’re about to be attacked, or the whole town is about to be blown up or any damn thing you could think of. And uh… they’ll get very worried about this.

Some girls… about the only time you get a… a girl… you get a lot of girls who have been on the space opera track, too. They’ve been boys on the space opera track – or girls, God help them! – Boy are they a mess! They’re really degenerate. They’re walking around here, trying to do a job of being normal. Of course, they’re much smarter, much wiser. And actually, for anybody to have survived that track and still be in a body, it must mean they’re awfully tough. That’s the truth. Like I suppose they put most of the guys who weren’t tough… are still sitting in cans someplace.

The truth of the matter is, no matter how dark it is there’s nothing can touch you. Unless you sit down and carefully determine that something’s going to. And if you carefully make up your mind that something is going to happen to you, you can undoubtedly fix it up so it will.

But uh… anyway, this quiet, pastoral scene, the girl… and the only time she ever saw a spaceman or anything like that, she’d heard about it. They’ll show up on a meter.

Now, that’s the sum and substance then of entities. As far as running engrams, I’ve just given you a dissertation on it. That’s really all you have to know about running an engram. Spot the incident where it happened, and make the guy go through it so many times he is so sick of it.

Well, now you take one of these space opera writers, if he’s really been on that track – he won’t write about it if he hasn’t been. He just won’t have the knack. That doesn’t mean you couldn’t… you couldn’t be ingenious enough to invent the whole thing from one end of the other. That just means they don’t. Also they don’t write science fiction if they haven’t been solidly on that track. They’ll write something else – fantasy, something.

It’s very strange to people sometimes. They’ll be quite amused at the first time they ever discover a this-life engram. They went all the way through the operation; they were completely alert all the way through it. Or… or there are parts of the operation that they’re not alert in.

All right, put them on a machine. You say, „All right, now let’s take this last story you wrote,“ and it’ll dive. And you’ll say, „What are you diving for? D… Didn’t it sell?“

Don’t be too surprised if there’s chunks of engrams that ought to be there that aren’t there. Don’t be too surprised at this. You’re dealing with energy and concept of energy, and the fellow had a concept that it was there once upon a time, but something might have caved that ridge in. There might be a heck of a scramble of energy in the vicinity of this thing. A piece of it might be missing.

„Yes, it sold“ uh… needle falling away.

Now sometimes during an operation a whole ridge will blow. Don’t think that a preclear suddenly… by the way, never make this mistake, that this is a sudden and strange manifestation that occurs – these ridges and flows and things like that; they’re… they’re sudden manifestations that occur the moment the person became a preclear and never existed before that. Don’t make that mistake. They put a… put a patient on an operating table and they come down with that knife or that machine or something of the sort, and there’s a bad shock. And this shock results in an electronic flash. And that’s some ridge blowing up. They don’t have anything connected to him to demonstrate what’s happening. But he comes out of that and he’s a vastly changed being. They’ve blown his bank up. And scrambled his incidents and ruined him. And he’s got to be rehabilitated in the handling of energy.

And you say, „Well now, take the hero of this thing“ – fall, fall. And uh… you say, „You know, that fellow’s being affected by writing. Now let’s take that detective story which you wrote“ – no motion of the needle at all. „Well, didn’t it sell?“

Very often an operation produces results solely because it merely shifts a person on a time track. Probably that’s the only reason it does, I don’t know. But uh… I wouldn’t say so far as that. You can still patch up a broken leg, although you’re a hell of a… you’re a hell of a thetan that can’t fix up a broken leg, let me tell you. Well, throw that one away and get another one. That’s right, it’s a better looking leg anyway. I mean that’s… that’s about the way it goes.

„No, it didn’t sell. Yeah, I got a reject on that.“ Yeah. That’s ve… very interesting.

All right, uh… the running of engrams, then, can become complicated by manifestations of energy and the fact that one tries to have the engram so he can run it. And of course there are vectors in it, so the second he tries to have it the thing will very often go away from him and he doesn’t have it any more. Or he tries not to have it and, of course, it moves at that moment right in on him.

So you say, „Well, this guy must be all keyed in and hallucinating. He just must have been driven mad by writing all these stories. So let’s examine all these stories carefully.“ And what do you know? They start blowing as locks.

There’s one way of doing this, is sort of emanate in the direction of the ridges. You emanate in the direction of the ridges, they’ll start lighting up. Just blow in their direction. Don’t emanate anything except a… a flow – not a agreement or disagreement or anything else – just… just emanate in that direction, and look. And, what do you know? Engrams will come into view.

Locks on what? Well, let’s put him back on the machine again. And let’s ask him, „All right now, have you ever been in a space ship?“ WHAM!

You just postulate yourself a little higher up tone scale, see, than you have to be. You don’t agree or disagree or have to have or not have to have, and so forth. Just emanate a little bit in that direction. Just feel yourself flow in that direction a bit and engrams that are otherwise……

„Oh, don’t ask me questions like that,“ he says. „You make me think I’m imagining things, or something.“

The guy says, „I can’t run that incident,“ and you know he’s sitting in Mama’s death and so forth. You can just get him to emanate kind of out in front of him or around back of him or wherever this engram’s parked. It’s parked geographically. It… because… he… it’s just one that he didn’t say, „Go into yesterday“ to.

You say, „Well, have you ever been in a space ship?“

See, you have to actively say to an engram, „Go into the last five minutes,“ or it won’t go. And then you have to hide from yourself the mechanism of doing that in order not to know you do it. Automaticity enters in on it and you’ll forget you’re doing it.

„Well, gee! I get nervous.“

Actually, it’s a completely conscious process. Every instant of time is a completely conscious process. So that if you… if you… if you’re not just saying, „Time. Time. Time. All right. Don’t have. Don’t have. Don’t have. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park“ of time, you haven’t got any time track.

„Well, how about hands? Uh… well, how about trying to get… how about blow-ups in space?“ I mean, anything like this, and so on. „Were you ever there? What was the year? What year were you a member of the Galactic Police Force Espionage Corps“ – something or other. WHAM! WHAM! WHAM!

A guy sometimes gets into the state of not doing anything with it, see? And he wonders, „Where’s my sonic?“ It’s all stacked, right in front of his face. It’s all right. He can stretch it out and he’s got it all again. Only he’s got to stretch it out. He’s got to say, „Well, that’s in last year. Now we’ll string it from there.“ And he’d have a track.

And you say, „What story did you write about this?“

But you have to do that, you see? And it’s not spatial. YOU DON’T SHIFT SPACE. You have to… you… it’s the same space as the thing occurred – in. It’s just disappearing in that space. And when he’s mastered that trick, he’s mastered time. It… it’s simply time… time past is „not have“. It’s just „not have,“ that’s all.

He’ll tell you, „Skylark“. I’m… I’m… that’s all… I don’t know anything about HIS past history, E. E. Smiths. Uh… he’ll say, „Well, it’s such-and-such a year. Yeah.“ You get a needle reaction.

And time that isn’t is just „will have“. And time that is, is „have it“. It’s so simple. You can go on like this and explain like this. And it’s something like trying to explain ad nauseam that golf balls are white because they’re white. That’s all, they’re just white.

„Now,“ you say, „how about the stories you’ve written about that?“ Tiny little needle reaction – keying out.

Now you run secondaries, grief charges, and you’re into the subject of loss. And what do you know, right back into time again. Loss is what? No time. You run a secondary the same way you run an engram. You start them in at the beginning. They can be in terror, they can be in fear, be in any of those things. If you just tell the preclear, start him just like this.

„Now, let’s take the SKYLARK and let’s go over it a little bit further and a little bit more on this.“ Oh, boy! We’re starting to get the big action on the actuality and no action on the story. And then you just turn it up and… not by slanting the questions or anything, you just turn it up, just try and get some kind of a charge on the stories.

You say, „All right, when was the first moment you received news of your father’s death?“

But you’ll get charge right straight across the boards on it was biographical or autobiographical. And all of a sudden this guy will start to reel and he’ll start to cough and he’ll say, „You know, I feel a helmet. I’m sure it must be a helmet. My ears are ringing like mad. I can’t understand it. My ears often ring when I’m writing. Come to think of it, they only ring when I’m writing about space stories, and I get that feeling right now. It’s like a goldfish bowl or something closing down over my… yeah, you keep your chin down in order to keep the earphones open. Oh, no!“ And you say, „Well, now let go of it.“ „Oh, I can’t!“

And the preclear says, „Well, I remember clearly that so-and-so,“ and he’s doing a big pretense. The engram is sitting right in front of his face and he’s saying it isn’t there. See? „Well, I recall this, I know this. Yeah. And, uh… somebody told me……“ That’s a lock on it – „that.“

„What would happen if you let go of it? What would happen if you didn’t have it?“

And you say, „No, no, no, no, no, no. When is the first moment you can pick up there that you heard your father died?“

“Oh, no… nothing.“ Needle – WHAM-WHAM!

„Oh, um, I guess it was a telephone call.“

Of course, he’s out in the middle of space. He’d spatter all over the landscape if he let go of it out there in a vacuum.

„All right. Answer the phone.“

„Well, all right now. Let’s… what would happen if you took it off?“

„Well, I can’t remember that far…“

„I can’t take it off, see“ – needle falling. You finally coax him out of this idea, and so forth, you find he’s got a cracked helmet on or something. He’s… he’s practically dying. And you run him on all these incredible situations. He starts to perk up and he gets happier and he gets cheerfuller and he gets to feeling better and he gets to feeling better and better and better. And then he says, „I just thought of some good space opera. But,“ he says, „I think I’ll write a detective story.“ He loses interest in it.

„Now just a minute. Pick up that telephone. Where does the telephone normally sit? Take a look at it. All right, you got the telephone? Well, now answer it. Now what is said to you over the phone?“

A lot of your bad science fiction is written by boys who… they were just bad the whole track, but they weren’t very bad. The guys who really write the good stuff, and so forth, boy were they horrible!

And the guy runs it off, and all of a sudden, „What the hell,“ he says. „I’m hearing this again.“ He runs it on through and at first he’s very vague and he gets upset and it’s very thin. And then he gets closer in and closer in to the thing. And then cries maybe or gets terrified or gets upset and… and it all goes by the boards. Well, that’s solved by having and not having. You could say, „Now get having and not having on the subject of Papa, having to have a father, not having to have a father.“ You do the same trick by running it on a flow so these processes are not disrelated.

What are you laughing about?

Now, running locks, you can just scan those wholesale. A lock requires a heavy incident to sit on. There’s got to be pain and unconsciousness in the incident before locks started gathering on it.

Yeah-yeah. I never wrote any science fiction myself. People think I’ve written it. That’s right. It doesn’t classify as science fiction.

So when Joe Jinx comes in the room and he says, „Eeeeeowwww! A black cat!“ you say, „What’s the matter with you?“

There’s ‘One Was Stubborn’. There’s a story which you would be vastly amused about in this class. It appeared in Astounding Stories, many years ago – probably 1940. ‘One Was Stubborn’. It is a civilization which was… it isn’t space opera, see? It’s usually about civilizations, things like that. It was a story about a civilization which was buckling under the terrific agreement on the subject of Christian Science. It was just caving in on it. But there was one guy who didn’t believe in Christian Science. And it’s his fate at the end of the story. It’s called ‘One Was Stubborn’ – a terrific application of what we’re doing right this minute. It’s fascinating.

„Oh, I hate black cats! Do you know every time I see a black cat, I get a black eye? I’m going to leave. I get terrible sinusitis too. Ohhh! You’ve got a potted geranium! Oh, I can’t stand geraniums! I’m……“ and so on and so on. As he goes down the steps he sees that somebody’s left a roller skate on the steps. He can’t abide anything like that. Why aren’t people…… „Oh, a newel post on a ban……“

And uh… there was a story called ‘Final Blackout’. Actually it was a political commentary and a character study of an officer, that’s all it was. It’s laid right here on Earth, and a very short time into the future. A lot of these other things.

What is this guy trying to do? He hasn’t found his restimulator. He’s looking all over the environment, see, trying to find the guy with the hand on the tie. He knows there’s a signal and he’s supposed to do something, and he fu… lost the signal. And he just starts jumping at the whole environment. And you get what is known as associative restimulators. Because it’s a hand on a tie he’s looking for, any tie hanging up anyplace drives him into fits. And because ties hang on shirts, any shirt hanging up anyplace turns him into fits. And because shirts go on bodies, then any body hanging up any place turns him into fits. And because bodies hang any place, then any place turns him into fits. You get how this is working?

Once in a great while I’d write something that had to do with that.

All right, you can actually sit a guy down on an E-Meter and look for the restimulator. „What’s the gimmick? What’s making you jump?“ You could just search for it relentlessly. It’s rather a long process but you just search for it and you’ll find that the reason this guy’s nervous and the reason that guy’s eyes are bad – for instance, why is the guy’s eyes bad? You could look in the real universe, laughingly called, and find out exactly what he’s hoping he won’t see.

You take the UMS stories, the Ole Doc Methulesah stories and so forth – straight off the record. No fiction to them really. They’re hopped up; that’s about all.

So the first drop you will get is, „Are you afraid you’ll see something“ – crash! Now what is it he doesn’t want to see? He doesn’t want to see one of these restimulators. Because if he sees this restimulator, then he has to do a Saint Vitus Dance, or something, see, he knows that.

Now here we’ve got… real death would be thetan death, and it would lie down below minus 8 here. And uh… you’d get homo sapiens would be somewhere in the neighbourhood… his death would be here, at 0.0.

All right, so we’re right back on to the same basic formula that we were on before – the environment is upsetting. Well, he has certainly agreed that it would be upsetting so you’d better gradiently break his agreement with the whole darned environment. Because if you don’t, there isn’t any halfway point.

So, let’s take a look here – dead… death, homo sapiens, and let’s find up here is alive. Now let’s do a rising scale processing on the scale of Survival-Dead.

Oh, get that envir… that… get that environment beautifully unreal. Get him absentmindedly walking through walls, tipping his hat to his hostess at night and walking through the front door and out, forgetting to open it. Going out and sitting down comfortably just outside of the curb, and turning on the switch and driving home – not remembering that he didn’t bring the car that night.

„What do you think“ – you say this to this preclear – „What’s your idea of your chances of survival?“ Preclear thinks it over for a minute.

Life could be beautiful. Of course, I don’t guarantee what’s going to happen to other people. You see, in view of the fact that this is all science fiction, it’s so incredible that uh… nobody will believe it anyway. And a fellow says, „Oh! This big tough guy at the party. He’s always the life of the party, you know. He’s big and he smokes cigars, you know, and he drinks heavily and he was a boxer in his youth. He’s strong, knocks the girls crazy. He, oh, they’re for him. And he tears telephone books in half, you know. Throws them negligently over his shoulder. Tears packs of cards in half – real tough, see? Real strong.“

Well, answer this question yourself: What’s your idea of your own chance of survival? Just face it bluntly and get what your current opinion is of your chance of survival. Take in all possible fields. What’s your current – opinion?

It won’t hurt this fellow’s reality any after he’s torn telephone books in half to have them lie on the floor and then tear ‘em in quarters – without anybody touching them.

All right, now take that opinion, whatever it was, and by the way, what was yours?

So, it’s a good thing we’re… we’re operating completely behind the mask of any reality.

Huh? Inevitable?

You’re gonna bust somebody’s reality to glory with this sort of thing. You can already bust their… if you just took one of these processes here, you could still bust their reality.

(No, before Scientology it was an awful long time, and now it’s ‘Forever.’)

„Everybody knows that after a certain age, such and so couldn’t possibly happen and the body couldn’t heal about this and that.“ My God! We’ve turned off cancer and diabetes and leukemia and… and so on. The… actually auditors have hauled them off of death beds now for two and a half years and braced them up and put a couple of spikes through their hair to hold them up on the wall until a better process came along. But they are still alive!

Oh, it is? Good.

Actually Dianetics and Scientology have probably saved several thousand lives – I don’t know. I would say so because I kept… I started keeping a case history on… a long time ago, and it got too numerous and I couldn’t keep it. Guys would just keep writing in. I wish I had it now, the… the… just what letters I had on the subject, and so forth, were once in existence. And they’re not now.

What was yours?

But, uh… gee, they just kept coming in and coming in and coming in and coming in. It’s a very funny thing. There are an awful lot of book auditors out in the field who did a tremendous amount of good, really used it down the line.

(Same)

Some of… sometimes these auditors study a technique, they’ll find it too fast, they can’t charge a preclear enough for it. They’d rather have a slower technique than these new techniques. Boy, that’s really… they’re really in agreement with the MEST universe when they figure that there’s got to be scarcity. They’re creating a scarcity themselves.

Okay. What’s yours?

You see, if they suddenly took up… took ten people and took ten days and cured all those ten people – oh, no! The… the horrible reality shatter that would occur in their neighborhood would be such that there would be Aunt Mamie and Uncle Joe up there, the relatives, saying, „You know, I have a friend. And I wanted to know if you couldn’t do something for this friend of mine, because uh… uh… of course, that friend wouldn’t be me.“

(About the same.)

Now, that’s all very simple, this business of running concepts and feelings. You can get any kind of a concept and just get the guy to hold it for a little while – and it wears out.

Is that what you got? Hell, you people aren’t… don’t need it… I mean… Well, did anybody… What was yours?

And uh… then there’s running ridges, running circuits out, there’s blowing up circuits. Well, your thetan can run around the body and pull these things off, you know, and hook ‘em up to light taps or digest the energy or squash ‘em, or light fire to one corner of the ridge and blow up the rest of the ridge. It’s very fascinating. You can handle a ridge any way you want to. You just simply get out and take a look at it and do something with it. Ground it, or turn it purple or change it around or fit it across the back instead of across the back of the head. And then finally you’ve changed it often enough, you said, „To hell with it. We won’t bother with this ridge any more.“

(Well, I answered the question ‘Very good.’ You asked the question…)

All right, let’s put another ridge on, and then mock up one and put it on, then fasten that one in good and strong. You say, „Wait a minute. I’m fooling with my own body, and the ridge which I just mocked up is a perfectly good, solid ridge.“ We’d better come off of this. We’d better not do this any more because that’s getting just too real.“ And then one day you say, „I wonder, if I put a ridge between those two E-Meter cans, if it’d short out the E-Meter?“ And you sigh deeply because there are the E-Meter cans lying several feet apart, and you’ve got a line between them and the needle registers.

All right. Very good. Your chances of survival are very good. How long?

You say, „I thought I was handling just… just imaginary things, and here I was handling real juice!“

(I can’t answer that question.)

And running a live flow, that’s running present time flow. You just manufacture energy and blow things up with it, that’s all. You just say, „Let’s see now. There’s a lot of ridges on me, or there’s a lot of ridges on this preclear, or there’s a lot of flows going on, or a lot of dispersals going on. Let’s see – what do we do about this? Hmrrrnmm, well, let’s just throw a beam at it. Let’s throw a beam at ‘em and burn ‘em up.“ And boy, you don’t want to get too fancy with that the first time your power starts coming on. You’ll blow the GE up – really. He’ll just go… start going „Ka-paw! Pow! Pow! Pow!“ And the preclear’s sitting there.

Ah! We’ve got a ‘don’t know’ survival. „Very good, but I don’t know.“ All right. Let’s take that: „Very good but I don’t know“ and let’s see if we can’t get a higher opinion on it. Just sort of shift it up to a higher, better opinion on it… Well, get that other opinion, kind of hold it for a moment. „Very good, but I really don’t know“ – to a little bit better opinion.

If you wanted to be real ornery, just take a bead on his ridge – on a front ridge. It’s bad to blow ridges, to hell with blowing ridges. Just put them in yesterday or something. Why worry about blowing ‘em.

(Excellent here.)

Uh… but… uh… you put a beam on this ridge he’s got across his face, you could really raise hell with him. Just kind of tune it and say, „Kok! Wave length is so-and-so.“ You don’t have to say wave length any more. You say s… „Now match the wave length now. Okay, there’s the ridge. Now, an energy flow will flow – ker-whap!“

All right, now let’s get it from ‘excellent’ up to a higher opinion.

And the guy’ll go „Booo!“

(There’s two things I can’t get the concept uh… first the chance of survival uh… in relation to time…)

And you’ll say, „My God! What happened? What happened? Did a lightbulb blow up? I’m kind of blind. There was a flash.“ And it really will. We’re speaking in a term of reality, now, that you test with great ease. Those are the easier things.

Hm-hm.

Now as far as freeing a thetan by concept and feeling is concerned, and freeing the thetan in various other ways, present and future, by dichotomies and tone scale – all of that, we’ve been covering all this.

(…chance of survival in relation to uh… well, anything other than time.)

„Get the concept that you need a body. Now let’s get the concept that you don’t need a body. Let’s get the concept that you do need a body“ – you’re not running a flow, really, and so…

Beingness.

And the guy says „But I DO need one.“

(Beingness.)

„Well, get the concept that you do. All right, now get the concept you don’t.“

Umm-hmm. There’s a maybe on that somehow. Then there’d be two things: Your chance of survival as homo sapiens?

„But I do need one.“

(Yeah.)

„All right, get the concept that you do,“ and you say, „For Christ’s sakes! Get the concept that you do.“ And the guy runs it.

Well, what’s your opinion of your survival as homo sapiens?

Two hours later, „You still got that?“

(That’s the ‘very good’, I guess.)

„Yeah – got the concept that I do.“ Two hours and fifteen minutes later, „You know I’m getting the idea that I don’t need this body!“

Hmm? Not very good?

Well, you don’t just abandon it at that moment. You say, „All right, get the concept you don’t need the body.“ He’ll run that for an hour. „Now, get the concept you do need the body.“ He’s changed his mind again, flows reversed, you see? You’re not paying attention to the flow, you just hold the feeling and God knows what happens – or hold the concept, rather.

(I say, „That is the ‘very good’„.)

Now the feeling is quite different than the flow. Aesthetics are very good. You are right on solid ground and as far as by dichotomies, why, there’s nothing easier than dichotomies to run – positive and negative. I mean your flow comes one way, then goes the other way.

Oh, that’s the ‘very good’. How… what about the other one – you don’t know?

Dichotomy means yes and no – positive and negative. It says, for everything… now, somebody was saying, „How would you run Agree and Disagree on having?“ Well, get your agreement to have, get your disagreement in having – positive and negative. And you’ll get flows and they’ll flow around. Of course, that’s slow freight. Actually running flows and that sort of things or running engrams has this… has a bug in it, as a process, and why it was always a slow process.

(That’s the ‘don’t know’.)

The preclear has to postulate that he’s an effect of them before he has anything happen to him. He has to say, „All right, now I know that it’s there,“ and maybe this is just admitting it’s there. But at the same time he’s waiting to be an effect of an energy flow, never a cause of an energy flow.

Oh, that’s the ‘don’t know’. We’ve got the ‘don’t know’. All right. Can you take that ‘don’t know’ and shift it any higher as a postulate?

So you’re processing somebody down scale, and when you’re running mock-up processing you’re postulating your preclear as cause continually, and never as an effect.

(I don’t quite get the question. How do you…?)

He says, „Now look,“ he says. „I keep getting these mock-ups!“ He says, „My God, do you know the back of my neck is about to burn! I can just feel the flames coming on… off of it!“

Well, could you shift it up to ‘might be’ from just flatly ‘don’t know’. Could you say „Well, it might… might be able to survive. There might be something there to survive“?

And you say, „Well, no, no, no. That’s just all right. All right, now get this anchor and put it back through the bottom of the boat. Now lift it up. All right, all right. It’s a lot of work.

(Well, I think ‘might be’ would be below ‘don’t know’. ‘Don’t know’, to me, is in the middle.)

„You know, my neck…!“

Oh, that’s in the middle?

You say, „We’re worried about an anchor. Now how about that?“

(Yeah.)

Now don’t think, really, that your mock-up has to be very similar to the ill the person is running, because as he gets better and better, you can test whether he’s getting better and better because at first when you’ve got Mama, you had Mama – identification, see? Mock-up identified with reality. And then next you could… you could get something dressed up in women’s clothes and so forth, vaguely the same period, and that could be called Mama. And then… he’s perfectly satisfied with that. Now the next time he gets something and he’s got a broomstick. And he can… he can call that Mama. And now the next thing he’s got out in front of him there, uh… he’s got a… his mother never had anything to do with church and he’s got a hymn book. And he can call that Mama. And then he’s got a crumpled-up sheet of paper – no significance, you understand. I mean there’s no symbolized association.

What’s above ‘don’t know’?

Now, Freudian psychoanalysis halted people in the association band. It at least permitted them to associate instead of identify, and then stopped them in that band, by insisting that it was an association and that their symbolizations associated with real life. And then having gotten them into that band, took them downband again by making them agree.

(Above ‘don’t know’ is uh… ‘good’.)

And if the IQ were ever taken on a patient undergoing psychoanalysis, daily tests – that sort of thing – if there’d ever been any thorough work done on this field…

Good. (Below… below ‘don’t know’ is uh… possibly ‘barely probable’. In other words, ‘don’t know’ is in the middle and sort of uh…)

You think I’m just being sarcastic. Well, for any field to stand around and pretend we do thorough research. Oh, my God! They never did any. You look in the books and all you’ll find is opinions, opinions, opinions, opinions, opinions. „Where’s the data? How many people were run to get this opinion?“

All right.

„Well, we never ran anybody on that opinion that’s… the aesthetics wouldn’t let us. Let’s go into the aesthetics before we go into any reason. Let’s not get to the aesthetics afterwards.“

(…halfway in between.)

Uh… and – by the way, what’s wrong with most young writers is when they’re trying to make this society agree with them and buy their stuff. They fail to get a reasonable bone structure with which to be aesthetic. And they insist on being aesthetic without a bone structure.

All right; well, can you get a better opinion on it?

Psychoanalysis did that – Freudian psychoanalysis insisted on being very aesthetic, without any guts. And uh… they didn’t know what this was and yet they tried to dress it up. This society and Man at the state he was, wouldn’t stand for this. And that is not just the failure of psychoanalysis. I would not say it failed – it never got started.

(I can get the concept of a better opinion.) But can you GET a better opinion on it? Or does the opinion have to have data?

Anyway uh… the point we’re having for supper tonight is simply this little slight datum. And that is that you want your preclear to be cause all the distance you can, so even though he starts to get into a period… First he’s identifying. He has to see Mama in the mock-up to have Mama in the mock-up. Mama has to be live and breathing and everything before he’s… she’s really satisfied that he’s there. Of course, if he’s negative, he can’t even get Mama in the mock-up, it’s below that.

(That’s right.)

And then he gets a broomstick and then he gets a prayer book and then he has a crumpled piece of paper. And then he’s… he tells you he’s got a whup. And you say, „What’s a whup?“

Uhh-huhh.

He says, „Well, you can’t see it. Well, yes, you can. See?“ And you look at this thing, and it’s a nice piece of Picasso design work – that’s Mama. No significance.

(I think that’s what’s lacking.) All right. So that’s hanging up, and uh… an opinion can hang up or c… condition can originate or generate for the lack of a datum.

DON’T EVER, ever, ever, ever, ever, exclamation point, underscore, in italics in 18 points caps, ASK YOUR PRECLEAR TO EVALUATE WHAT HIS MOCK-UP MEANS IN TERMS OF REALITY. If you do that, you have missed the whole point of 8008. You’ve just missed the whole cockeyed show.

In other words, you can get randomity caused by a missing datum. Or you can get a ‘maybe’ caused by a missing datum. So here’s a missing datum showing up preventing a postulate. You could go ahead and ask what he has to know, and so forth.

Never ask him… you… you know damn well, you say, „Isn’t that interesting? Every time we talk about his boyhood he gets this factory chimney – ha! Phallic symbolism. Every time we do.“

That’s very good. But when we ask for an upper shift of a postulate, let’s get an upper shift on this one: Right, and down here, Wrong. And uh… where are you on… on Rightness? How right do you think you are?

Well, you know something? If you were to suddenly point this out to him or have him find it out, you know he’d go down tone scale on a meter and in IQ. The work in this field has been carefully done – extremely carefully done. And I wish somebody had done that careful work before, because I had to do a lot of work that should have been done.

(Oh, I’m generally right.)

That made me mad, by the way. I got awful mad about that. But… I went on a tearing fury about five years ago. I found out all of a sudden there wasn’t any statistical data in the field of psychoanalysis. And I – unhhhh! It’s been in existence since 1894 and nobody’s ever done statistics. And I kept asking people and I went around to psychological departments and I went around to other people and they said, „Why, no. It doesn’t exist.“ And they said, „Well, we have experimental psychology.“

Generally right. Well, you can do better than that. Let’s get this postulate, this concept ‘generally right’ and let’s shift it up higher.

And I said, „No, no, no, no, no. I want to know what’s happening in the field of psychoanalysis. I’m not interested in anything else. Now where’s the statistics?“ Ummmph!

(Well, uh… it doesn’t make any difference uh…)

I’ll be damned if I didn’t have to sit down and for 30 days – I would have been much rather out there pushing a car on the desert, or I would have been much happier down in a hotspot or someplace else. I have to sit down and run people on libido theories.

…If you are right?

You say, „Well now, how is your guilt“ – and by the way, I did this very well. I’m very well educated and so on. „Yes, Mrs. Jones. Yes, life has been hard for you, hasn’t it. Well, now supposing you just go on talking. Uh-huh. Just go on talking – that’s right. Just go on talking some more.“

(I mean, I’m right as far as I’m concerned and that’s the important thing.)

And you all of a sudden said, „Oh again. What was that again?“

Uh-huh. Can you shift it higher than that?

„Ohhhh, why, you seem to be fixated on the Grand Canyon. You’ve mentioned the Grand Canyon eight times. Now what does the Grand Canyon mean to you? Oh? Tch-tch-tch-tch-tch.“ Just go ahead on this line.

(I get the concept that I’m just about always right naturally.)

Now let’s find out that – I… I didn’t know what I was doing to this degree: I didn’t know a lot of things, but I knew this, that I could get people who had had analysis, whose college within the last three or four years, had been – therefore psychometry was fully in existence at the moment of their leaving college – who had then had an analysis.

Good, good, good. Let’s… can we get it any higher than that?

God! Getting the statistics together took about 30 days of precious time and the statistics were damning! Oh, they were just grim! Terrible! It said 25% of them went spinny. Hah!

(It’s difficult. Yeah, why not?)

It said some percentage I won’t mention committed suicide because of it. And you know where the gimmick is? They, made the patient agree with the real universe and it spun him in. And they showed him that every dream he had, every dream he ever could have was really caused by the real universe. And that he wasn’t free to have an illusion of his own, but that every illusion was motivated by the real universe. And that’s a control operation that kills them. It slaughters them in their tracks. That’s right.

Yeah, okay.

So, don’t ever let me catch you pulling the same operation. The course runs the opposite direction entirely, Get them to disagree with the MEST universe. And not even by fighting it, just „to hell with it!“

Now actually, we could go through this Chart of Attitudes and just shift like that. You say, „All right. what’s your concept, how right you are?“ See, you’re looking for the right-wrong scale. The guy… whatever he gets, „Okay, let’s get a higher concept of it. Let’s get a better idea of it.“

And you’ll find out their differentiation above the association level – they differentiate more and more and more and more and more and more – until there isn’t any relationship between what they’re mocking up and the MEST universe.

When he says, „What’s a better idea?“ you kind of explain to him what’s a better idea in your level.

Okay. Let’s call it an afternoon.

And uh… how responsible are you? Let’s get that. How… how responsible?

Hope you’ve learned something this afternoon.

(Fully responsible.)

Hm?

(Fully responsible.)

Horribly?

(Fully!)

You’re fully responsible. Okay. How responsible are you?

(Fully.)

Fully responsible. Do you really feel responsible? How responsible are you for police?

(Quivering.)

Okay, let’s raise that concept about responsibility for police.

(We shouldn’t have to have them.)

Umm-hmm. Let’s raise that concept higher than that. (We won’t need to have them.)

Okay, let’s see if we can get any higher on it. Your responsibility for police.

(There isn’t any necessity for them.)

There isn’t any necessity for ‘em! Good. Let’s get it higher than that.

(Well, I won’t have any police in my universe.)

Okay. And so we go on up toward full responsibility on one subject, you see?

And uh… now we could take how… how much of an effect do you think you are? You… how much of an effect do you think of yourself as being?

(An occasional effect.)

An occasional effect. Let’s see if we can boost that up.

(Rarely an effect.)

Okay. Let’s get a higher idea of it.

(One over infinity effect.)

Does that me… really make you feel… does it change any idea in you?

(No.)

Well, come on. Let’s change your basic concept on the subject of being an effect.

(I may not be an effect – I’m not an effect.)

Aha! Now we’re getting a shift: ‘I’m not an effect’.

(I guess the next thing is ‘I am cause’.)

But you’re not reaching that, though, are you? How close are you coming to it?

(Infinity over one.)

Okay. Now that’s one way of doing Rising Scale Processing. You just explain to your preclear that you’ve got this scale and this scale goes „Survive, Dead; Right, Wrong… How right do you think you are? How responsible do you think you are – do you want to be? And how much do you own? And… and uh… how many people could you be if you had to be,“ and… and so on. You just go across the scale like that.

Now there’s an entirely different way of doing this, and uh… this is also Rising Scale, but you’d call that first Rising Scale as a very gradient scale. That’s very gradient Rising Scale, small step Rising Scale.