Eighth lecture, 20th ACC, July 23rd, 1958.

Thank you.

And if you don't know what I've been talking about in the last hour, don't be surprised because the total sum of it adds up to a not-know.

Well, I understand that you got it all fouled up again. I'm very unhappy about that because it makes me so right; I expected you would. You particularly.

Male voice: That's why!

Awfully dirty trick, you know, not look at anybody and...

Do you have a question back there?

Well, we have a lot of ground to cover here. The only difficulty with the ground we're covering is very simple; it's a very simple difficulty.

Male voice: Well, I just-I was just wondering why I was a little bit...

I should cover it all at once, because you need it all now! If I'd given it to you any earlier, however, it just would have been so much obfuscation.

Well, ask me a question. Come on, ask me a question.

This is the eighth lecture of the 20th ACC, July 23rd, 1958. In case you haven't come up to present time, you can do so. Anybody hearing this tape, of course, will go back to present time.

Male voice: Well, I don't have exactly a question.

Today, unfortunately, we have to cover anatomy. This is not the basic HCA lecture on anatomy. I assume that you have some clue regarding anatomy, some faint clue. „Anatomy“ to you is a mass, and so anatomy is a mass.

Come on. Ask me a question.

But a thetan has the ability to have a thought anatomy as well as a mass anatomy.

Male voice: All right. This is on - this is on Rocks. Now, when the needle - when you have definitely found the Rock, will the needle on the meter stick until you have released the Rock so it doesn't bother the guy anymore?

That which you are handling when you go into the Rock is a very specific anatomy. We've had too many people in Dianetics and Scientology who, in teaching it, laid tremendous stress on thought.

That's right.

I've already covered this yesterday - already covered it yesterday to a marked degree. People think they are thoughts. They get themselves interiorized into a bunch of data. You want to be careful you don't get it - yourself interiorized, however, into a bunch of truth, you'll blow free. But you get interiorized into a bunch of data, odds and ends; how popguns go pop and how you mix up carbonated water with some indigestible syrup or other scientific technical goals and aims of this particular society. And they're a pack of lies.

Male voice: It will stick until you...

And a fellow who gets interiorized into a bunch of data that's a pack of lies is just about a dead duck, short of Scientology. He gets very thoroughly trapped, because he says, „This is true.“

Pretty well. Unless you're auditing merely a chain of it, then you're just getting the lock off the top of it.

Well now, when somebody came along and looked at you and said, „This is your name,“ they told you a lie. In the first place that isn't your name, and the name you write so swiftly, easily on your examination papers as a handy identification tag reaches its furthest use in that function. It's of no use to you where Internal Revenue is concerned; only gets you in trouble. No use to you where the Federal Boys Institute is concerned; they will only tag you with the things you didn't do and avoid the things you did.

Now you did know what I was talking about, didn't you, Bruce? All right.

And you get this thing called identity and there is your first and most gross example of an individual becoming interiorized into data. Here is a name; it has nothing to do with the price of eggs or oranges, and you'll find people going around dramatizing this name. They are being their name; they're not being themselves at all.

Okay, Jack?

Now, this is flagrant to this degree: we have to date had two people who were so thoroughly their names that nothing would happen to their cases until their names were handled. This was by old-time processing, but nevertheless quite true. Fascinating. I unfortunately can't give you the exact examples because the people are still alive and they're still Scientologists.

Male voice: I want to see if I get this right, Ron. Right at the end there you said: it looks to me like there - in an uncleared person there are two existing states: a known isness, that is the isness he is aware of as reality, and the not-knowing isness of his Rock and all of his not-isness.

By the way, you can try to make too much out of your name too. That is the reverse reaction of this sort of thing.

Yeah.

You say, „Well, my name is Jack. Therefore I should make lots of money.“ Do you get the idea? Obvious, isn't it? And so forth. So people are not necessarily interiorized into their names; it just can happen.

Male voice: And that conflict is what provides the reactions on a meter.

Supposing we had somebody whose name was „Neverrise“ and you told him to „Come up to present time.“ Now, supposing this individual was being data, not just was being his name, but was being data; he was not himself ever, he was only data. The old Buddhist error that I have been mentioning to you: „Man is knowledge. You are as much a thetan as you are a bunch of data.“ Got the idea?

Very well stated.

Well, this fellow, then, would have to have his name handled one way or the other. You always want to be alert to that factor. That is a fascinating thing because once every hundred cases you'll run into it head-on with a crash. The fellow's name is „Neverrise“ and you tell him to come up to present time.

Male voice: Is that correct?

Now, supposing we had somebody whose name was „Nohelp.“ See? „Mr. Nohelp.“ Well, if you don't think names can add up to such things, I invite you to inspect the phone book, look under „surgeons“ and find out what people have become surgeons and what their names are. It's the most fascinating thing you ever inspected! You must do this sometime. Look under „undertakers“ and find out what their names are.

Very well stated. All a meter ever reads is a disagreement.

Now, every once in a while the late Robert Ripley would put „Bury and Grave, Undertakers, Sioux Falls, South Dakota,“ you know, and he'd think this was very funny. Well, he'd put it in his cartoon, you know? And I don't know, it's so common that the commonness of it is funny. Not that „Bury“ and „Graves,“ two men, would team up and become undertakers. That's ordinary. And if you don't believe it's ordinary, go to the yellow pages of the phone book.

Male voice: Of those two basic...

Go look up all the advertisements and look right on down the line. Look under any particular profession and you will find many. They are not the total example, don't you see? But they're sufficient to make you believe that it must be 25 or 30 percent totally because of name that they became chiropodists or something. „Mr. Toe,“ he's the chiropodist, you know.

No, all a meter ever reads is disagreement.

Now, here's the most flagrant example of somebody becoming data; they become data. And as they become data, they are incapable of being themselves.

Male voice: I see.

Now, we're not too interested in this phenomenon; it's just something for you to keep your eye on, and as a professional auditor, doing any professional auditing at all, there are several things you have to keep your eye on - several things. That, however is one of them. These things are not necessarily totally covered in the standard operating procedure; this is a sort of thing you just get to know, you know?

A lie detector operates only because a disagreement between the operator and the subject brings about a conflict which is expressed in terms of an increased or decreased resistance and you get a reaction.

The other thing is eye flutter, obsessive agreement means hypnotism. That's an hypnotized person and if you don't recognize an hypnotized person when you see one, you're also going to get sunk. See, you won't get along very well.

Now, of course, you're going to get an extreme reaction - very well stated, by the way, what you just said there - because you're going to get an extreme reaction on the most extreme conflict. A lot of people are going to come around and tell you that it's the physical universe that is the trouble with the preclear. See? Well, all right, maybe it is, but they're only looking at half of it and he knows about that. See? So it's not really a legitimate target.

I'm going to cover hypnotism. I can tell you what the stable datum is of hypnotism and show you why you have to be alert to an hypnotic subject who is sitting in your preclear chair. It's because hypnotism is irresponsibility and you hypnotize a person by making him admit, agree to and realize that he has no responsibility for certain things in his environment - not by trying to get him to be more responsible; you try to get him to be less responsible. And as you demonstrate to him that he is less and less responsible, why, he becomes more and more hypnotic. Here is one of those five buttons I gave you the other day on total parade: hypnotism and what you can do with an hypnotic subject.

Male voice: Thank you.

Give you an idea, you hypnotize some subject, you tell him that the ruler you hand him is a flaming torch and tell him to shove the end of the torch into his face and burn his face. He'll do it. He'll do it as long as that torch isn't burning. He'll take responsibility for thinking it's burning; he'll take responsibility for shoving it into his face.

That's very well stated, Jack.

Similarly, you tell him to go over to the window, which is just a mock-up window with one foot between it and the floor, tell him to jump out and fall 185 stories to the ground, and he'll jump out the window.

Yes, Connie?

But the moment you burn a real torch and hand it to him and tell him to shove it into his face, he comes out of it. The moment you tell him to step out a real window and fall to the ground, he comes out of it. Why?

Female voice: When, as a preclear - the preclear tells a lie to the auditor, should he be intending to lie to do the other guy in?

Because he has, after all, a residual responsibility for his own safety. And as long as you don't actually mess up his own responsibility, as long as you can keep him in a totally irresponsible area, he'll remain hypnotized.

Repeat that, please.

That's actually all you need to know about hypnotism. You could work the whole subject out and know far more about it than the Indians, Mesmer, Charcot, or any of the rest of the boys, who were around „Svengali-ing“ the human race.

Female voice: Well, once I decided I'm...

All right. Now, these are just isolated little manifestations of one kind or another which do clear up in auditing, but if you are smart you will see them, and you will see them clearly.

No. Repeat the question.

Fellow sits down. It's always a good thing to look at the name. You don't have to examine the preclear very thoroughly, just run kind of automatically and audit him for an hour. You don't have to really look at him. But it's a good thing to at least look at his name at the top of his APA and IQ and any other papers that you have on him and just see at least what his name is, that at least. Because if it's „Mr. Nohelp“ or it's „Mr. Irresponsibility“ or it's „Mr. Sergeant Major“ or something, you are liable to be running into an unauditable situation by reason of name, or you're liable to run into a „special effects.“

Female- voice: ...going to lie to do him in.

We have special effects men out in Hollywood. Well, names can be special effect things too! „Mr. Cry“ will weep, and you, you poor fellow, you poor girl will sit there and say, „We're really getting somewhere on this case because he is weeping and he's gotten rid of a lot of charge on the case.“ Five, six months later it dawns on you the reason why the fellow never got well, never recovered at all, was because you were auditing „Mr. Cry.“ See, that's a special effects and because they are the datum, a name, they will turn on special effects. Do you see that?

Repeat the question.

All right. Now, the other thing, if a person is so irresponsible that he is hypnotic, of course, he can't take responsibility for any part of the session except maybe to agree with you. He could take responsibility for agreeing, and you could run Responsibility directly on agreeing and blow him out of an hypnotic trance the like of which nobody dreamed of being able to do a year or two ago. Fascinating, see?

Female voice: Should the preclear be telling a lie with an intention towards the auditor such as to do him in?

But why can't you get anywhere with just routine techniques on a special effects case? Hypnotized, being data - why can't you?

Huh! I should say so, quite often.

Because here is an obvious button standing in your road as far as recovery of the case is concerned. Given the fact that you are a good auditor, given the fact that you are actually able to lay it right down the line on the subject of the TRs, you'd never have an ARC break with this fellow, you'd always address, find and handle his PT problem, given these things - let's just take these skills for granted.

Female voice: I mean if I just told you a lie like this room is yellow, should that show on a meter?

Now, there are some other things that can get so thoroughly in your road, that you yourself will start to invalidate yourself and say, „I am not getting any further along the line and I am just not making headway and I must be slipping somewhere.“ Well, the only place you could be slipping is in the special effects department.

I'm glad you've mentioned that for a particular reason.

He's hypnotized: the only possible process that you could run on him would be Responsibility. It wouldn't matter whether you started the session or ended the session or anything else. As long as you got in there with some Responsibility.

Female voice: I had no intention...

And you might have to clear the word; the word might even be totally unreal to this person. It's very interesting to watch an hypnotic person wake up; been hypnotized for years and years and years and years and years and they start waking up on this one. They've been going around in a total trance.

When you turned on lies the other day or tried to turn them on, you occasionally here and there found a person who didn't react.

You say, „Invent a being. Tell me his ideas of responsibility.“ If the person is hypnotized, every single one of those ideas will be quite bad, upsetting, so forth.

Male voice: That's right.

And they invent a being. „What is his idea of responsibility?“

It's just a measure of the reality of agreement. Their reality of an agreement could be so low - at the time you were doing this they were perhaps violently disagreeing to being used as a guinea pig or something of the sort and they were being suppressed in their general agreement anyhow - and when you asked them to tell a lie they didn't tell a lie; when you asked them to tell the truth they didn't tell the truth. In other words, you could say they didn't and as a result you got no reaction on the meter.

„Oh, well, he wants to get everybody under his thumb and crush everyone.“ Now, that's almost too sensible for an answer.

Now, this has nothing to do with anybody in this course. But it does have to do with this phenomenon when it is very prevalent on a case. When it is extremely prevalent. And it doesn't matter what the fellow says, it doesn't have any influence on the meter. It can be the lower harmonic of it all.

„What is his ideas of responsibility?“

Now, for any upper state there is also a lower state which is a harmonic on it and is a sort of a mimic and a jeer. That's one of the reasons why we question our sanity is because insane people have simply mocked up the optimum, from their viewpoint, method of convincing people that to be sane you have to be crazy. The truth of the matter is insanity is simply a lower harmonic on any sane characteristic. All you have to do is take one sane characteristic, exaggerate it enormously and you've got an insane person. So long as you exclude all the other sane characteristics.

„Well, bolts of cloth.“ Buy it as an answer; that's as close as a person who is as bad off could get to a sensible answer on responsibility. It's just totally beyond them.

Now, like, just set up a row of matches in your mind's eye there. And they're all the same length, more or less. And these would be all of the sane characteristics which went to make up a balanced beingness. This person is now sane, he's in good shape. He'd be very, very sane in his conduct. He's not necessarily optimum because if they were all exactly the same length he would be a colorless personality indeed.

The gain of a case is a gradient scale of taking responsibility for themselves and existence. And unless that increases, nothing else is going to increase, so you have the special effects which knocks out the button.

All right.

Now, I've given you the name, and I've given you hypnotism for another reason than this. So could there be a suppressor on each one of the five buttons - each one of the five.

Here we have a wonderful example here of insanity when we take all the matches except one and we add that one match, which is just one characteristic: the ability to drink coffee - let's be a little bit ridiculous here. And we simply add all other characteristics and their force vectors to stretch out the length of this one match „drinking coffee“ with all the other matches. And, brother, have we got an insanity! See? Well, that's pretty weird.

Now this special effects fellow is a zero-creation person. If you were over in Dublin, you would know what I was talking about. You have never seen anybody anywhere in America or England with the kind of ideas on the subject of creation that you find in Dublin.

Now get the mental image picture of taking five matches, the buttons which we're working with here in this clearing, and now let's put four of the matches behind one. Wipe out four so there's nothing there with any of these four and put all the force on just one match. And we got a guy who's strictly fruitcake.

You can get in darn near a fistfight with people sitting in a PE course, just by mentioning the word „create.“ I've seen somebody clearing definitions on people in a PE course in Dublin.

And I don't care which one of the - which is the one you select and the four you suppress, you'll come up with an insane conduct.

& One of the reasons the Dublin office was wheeling as long as it was is I found it terribly incomprehensible, rather amusing and a question of how far south could it get. Anything that worked in that office would work like a breeze anyplace else.

All insanity is, is a criticism of some characteristic of sanity. Don't blame a psychiatrist when he believes everybody is crazy, because he sees in everybody some of the characteristics of an insane person since he has never seen in an insane person anything but sane characteristics totally exaggerated.

Now it's - I'm not being sarcastic about Dublin. This country was originally oppressed by continual piracy against its coasts. It's been all torn up one way or the other. One time it was probably a more fruitful, richer country than Scotland and England, but that certainly was an awfully long time ago. And the people who are there now are under tremendous economic duress and this all by itself is quite upsetting. Further, they're under a tremendous religious duress, and this itself is quite upsetting. So they've got two buttons gone, which then tend to make the rest of them disappear.

All right. So we get all sorts of weird combinations.

Religious duress, their ideas of creation - you can actually start a fistfight with trying to clear the definition with a group in Dublin on the subject of create - just trying to clear that definition of „create.“ They all sit back there and swear that you're being blasphemous. They have an immediate reaction against you because you mentioned the word.

Now, when you see a needle that won't react to a lie reaction at all, no matter what the fellow did, all we are looking at is a total irresponsibility. And that is all we are looking at.

And these people are all special effects cases - special effects. Lord, you have to wind your wandering way through the awfulest maze and morass and labyrinth of special effects when you're auditing somebody in that area who is of the lower case level bracket.

So when the person you were testing, Connie, wasn't there to be audited, was just there to be guinea pigged and he had no responsibility at all for this auditing session in any way, he didn't tell you lies or he didn't tell you the truth. He didn't agree and he didn't disagree, he didn't anything because you've dropped out the Responsibility button off of the test.

& Of course there are people in Dublin who are quite well cultured and educated and all the rest of that. I'm talking about the longshoreman and the rest of the people who just come into class and sit down, you know, wow.

If you were to go down to a - this has nothing to do with anybody on this course - but if you were to go down to the prison and grab guys there, just one right after the other, you will wonder why the police ever got such touching faith in a lie detector. Because the worst social criminals will not react. They don't react at all. They've just killed somebody and they don't react. And it's touching faith that the police have. They don't get their worst offenders; that's somewhere between eight and fifteen percent of the people they test get no reaction on having just strangled a baby or something. They weren't there and they're not responsible for the action; therefore, they cannot react on a meter in any way, shape or form. The idea that way down deep somewhere somebody has some social consciousness which will spring to the fore and will always display itself on an E-Meter is touching faith.

When creation goes out the window, everything else tends to. It's the senior button of all of this; it is the senior button of the five. But when it starts out the window it shatters something or some part of one or more of the remaining four. And the buttons which we're discussing are, of course, Change, Problem, Help, Create, Responsibility, in that order.

A person might have the Responsibility button out the window and, although the needle is sticky and although it doesn't look like a Clear meter at all, it's erratic and it doesn't give a lie reaction.

The special effects case can't create, but that's true of every case: his creation is unlimited. But it is (capital T) true of the person who goes back against creation. You say „create“ to him and he goes... You can be sure he's being his name or he's being his job or he's being a datum. He certainly is not being alive.

Female voice: Well, a - Clear doesn't give a lie reaction.

So it is that as each one of these buttons is knocked out or suppressed, you get a specialized category with no adequate case gain as a result.

That would be a - that would be a matter of just the upper harmonic on the lower manifestation. Soon as he gets a Responsibility button he would have to more or less postulate a responsibility before he'd then get a reaction. He'd have to postulate a responsibility and then postulate a disagreement and then he'd get a reaction on the meter. To say that a Clear will not react on a meter, by the way, is a lie itself and is not true. A Clear can react on a meter at will. Otherwise you're saying that he couldn't mock up anything and make it more solid, aren't you?

People who are shattered on the subject of Change are hard to audit. Maybe the rest of them are apparently all right, but Change is going to influence the other four. But Change is so pinned down that you could just sit there forever, practically, and go through motions and have nothing happen. And, of course, you can understand and you could possibly write an interesting essay on how Change influenced the other four buttons; you could figure it out one way or the other.

Male voice: Yeah.

But the point is, we start right into a case on Change and if Change is held down - wow!

On a Clear test you will always get a click and a surge and a reaction when you say, “Mock up something and make it more solid.“ If the person is Clear, he will get a needle reaction at that point. Naturally. Because he actually did throw a new resistance into the circuit. And the meter will react to that new resistance.

Now, I'll tell you how a person gets that way: He can be keyed in in this lifetime, versus all earlier bad situations on the subject of Change. He can be keyed in simply by being moved all over the place. That's one way and that would be a clue you would have on the subject; the fellow was going to be a rough Change case. See? He's been moved-moved-moved-moved-moved-moved-moved-moved. Never let - nobody ever let him stay still at any time; they changed his location, changed his location, changed his location. Never stop, never stop.

But the conflicts of irresponsibilities, and so forth, in most cases react one to another in such a way as to produce a reaction. And even on this very irresponsible case who doesn't react to a lie reaction at all and is in-session, boy, you get plenty of meter action. He can't help himself but the meter's very sticky.

This will tell you an awful lot of other things. It'll tell you that he has upsets about friends. Obviously, every time he'd leave a place he'd lose all of his friends and he'd have to make friends in some new place, and then he'd have to leave that place.

Yes, Connie?

Navy brats and army brats are definitely suspect in this particular department; they've been moved all over. Diplomatic children, that sort of thing.

Female voice: My question's a little broader. Suppose you were looking for a Rock, say you were auditing me and you were saying „britches“.

Somebody who was an itinerant worker - let's go down scale - and had kids and dragged them all over the country in a trailer and that sort of thing. As soon as you see a tremendous - lot of change in location in the present-life history of a case, then you can suspect the person is resisting change and will take a long time in auditing. Got that? Now that comes under this special effects department.

Oh, you won't get out from underneath that.

Your next: Problems - Problems. The fellow, let us say, is a mathematician. Well, if you know this preclear is a mathematician and you go on and run Problems of Comparable Magnitude or „What part of that problem could you be responsible for?“ you ought to be shot, because you're wrong!

Female voice:.., and I didn't mock up britches and I didn't look into the past for britches and I just thought that's an idea, it's pretty vague to me and I wouldn't get any charge.

This man has some specialized stupidity on the subject of problems. He tackles every problem on an innumerable series of vias. All problems are symbols. There's nothing real about a problem. What's a problem to him? Well, if he's a professional mathematician, it's very improbable that he would be clean as far as this definition of him I'm giving. I'm not condemning him as a professional mathematician; I'm just showing he's a special effects case.

Now, what did you say last?

He could sit down and get the square root of a third of an arc, he could trisect the hypotenuse with a few deft lines, but in most cases, for God's sakes, never ask him to go up and see Johnny's teacher because Johnny's having trouble. He usually could just walk right out of the house with the house on fire; that's quite characteristic of somebody whose profession is problems. Yeah. That wouldn't be a problem to him. The problem is how do you trisect an arc?

Female voice: I wouldn't get any charge if I didn't cooperate to the extent of visualizing, conceiving of or looking at.

And you say, „Do you have any problems?“

No, if the person has, if the person still has a Rock - let's modify it to that degree - the auditor intention has the power of restimulating it. You really don't need too much cooperation from the preclear to locate a Rock. A person might not get a lie reaction on, „Are you sitting in that chair?“ Answer „No,“ to that question. But if he has a Rock which has to do with an Egyptian pyramid and you say, „Egypt,“ you get a bfzzzzt, freeze. And then you say, „Pyramid,“ whomp! See? And then the word „Egyptian“ comes off of it. At length „Egyptian“ will not produce a reaction; it's - produces a free needle. But „pyramid“ continues to produce a locked up needle. And you follow pyramids down, you find out that it's any early pyramid, not just an Egyptian pyramid. You get the idea? You could take the „Egypt“ off of it, but „pyramid“ doesn't go.

And he says, „No.“ And the needle doesn't budge because he's being totally correct. He isn't working with mathematics at the time you're auditing him, so of course he doesn't have a problem. Do you see how this would be? He's a special effects, special category, special definition.

And this wouldn't matter, Connie. It wouldn't matter what the intention of the preclear was or whether his attention was much with you.

Now, if he's pretty sane as a mathematician, this doesn't much get in his road. But if he's totally plowed in and is being obsessively mathematical, man, brick walls are thin compared to the barriers this puts on a case. And every time you try to audit him he runs into one of these brick walls called „solution“ and he's liable to work it all out in terms of a symbol and come to some equated answer that doesn't have anything to do with the price of oysters in Chesapeake Bay. Nada - not the faintest. Problems are not real; they are a special thing. Got that?

The whole environment cooperates in the restimulation of this Rock. So don't think that an auditor with intention to restimulate it won't. Got it? Any other questions? Yes?

All right, let's look at this next one: Help. And we have a special effects case, and this special effects case is simply this: a nurse. Oh, man, you're going to run Help on a nurse just like that without doing anything else? What are you, goofy or something!

Female voice: You've spoken often of perfect form or beauty and aesthetics as being sort of a real theta trap. How would you use that in coming to the Rock?

You just proceeded along beautifully; you got through Change, you got through Problems, so you said, „This person is auditing beautifully and therefore we don't have to take any more notice of the case, and we can just wheel on through to the end of the line and that's that.“ And they go thud on Help. Why? They're professional help. A Scientologist only has this single held-down button as a class of people. See, that is their class button: Help. And it's quite interesting. It's quite interesting. They're professionals and they have been for a very long time. It wasn't just this time that they got into Dianetics and Scientology, see? See, they dramatized the whole thing up the line, and some people who are having a hard time learning Dianetics and Scientology are simply swapping horses!

Well, it's interesting that you ask this since I have just gone through a series of experiments concerning perfect form and aesthetics as a trap and so forth. And it is my belief in looking for the Rock - this is why I say we probably ought to had about four hours lecture today - that in looking for the Rock it is an excellent idea to explore those things which the preclear might possibly connect with creativeness.

You see, the compulsive impulse to help people is simply a method by which they can continue to be an apothecary. After all, all of your pharmacist's certificates and everything else have been withdrawn from you. They might as well have been thrown in the coffin with the last body. So that road is blocked, but it is a good way to help people.

Now, where aesthetics have turned against the preclear or he has become dependent on something else for his aesthetic quality and then it betrayed him, you have the neatest Rock you'll ever have. Now, that's a wonderful Rock. That's thud! This individual walked into the door of the most beautiful building he had ever seen, and they grabbed him and put him in the clink and held the body in duress and transported the soul elsewhere, you know. Fabulous situation. But he was attracted there by an aesthetic.

So, you get a Scientologist, now and then, who is on a substitution. Now, he wouldn't be in Scientology if he were totally on a substitution, got that? You have to give the guy a break to that degree, see? He wouldn't be there if he was totally on a substitution.

Well, this is the entrapment by aesthetics. And you'll find aesthetics are a usual trap. That's why you find, by the way, Dianetics and Scientology are not all trapped up with a whole bunch of horse- aesthetics. Get the idea? You'll find a few of them around because they're unavoidable. But it's not that anybody's against aesthetics, but we don't want starry-eyed people wandering in the front door dramatizing for the hundred-thousandth time the lock where they see a beautiful building and walk in. Or the lock of where they hear beautiful music and walk in, where they hear a beautiful organ playing and a choir singing and they walk in the front door. See? Because all you do is collect a lot of nuts.

A psychologist in this lifetime has been found who was on a total substitution, and he wasn't learning anything because he was two substitutes removed from where he was trying to go.

Most interesting aspect of looking for a Rock is that it normally turns out to be something associated with aesthetics. It's either a complete contradiction to aesthetics, complete reversal, or it itself is a betrayed aesthetic. It's quite legitimate to look over every artistic profession in any preclear. If you're starting to get up against it, just look over any artistic profession. How many artistic professions are there? Well, there're quite a few; there're quite a few.

The first substitute was psychology and then he was trying to understand psychology through Scientology. But what was he trying to understand through psychology? Well, he was no longer able to put his hands on mass, and so this lifetime he couldn't practice as a veterinarian. But he surreptitiously could put his hands on a brain as a psychologist, you see?

Now, you'll find, inevitably, some Freudian analysis type thing run off a case. It's inevitable. But boy, it's so late on the track that if Freud ever made anybody sane by getting the time that they saw a little girl with no clothes on and that made them crazy and Freud made them realize that this was the case and so forth, and if anybody turned sane at that point and stayed sane, I've never seen it. I have never seen it.

This guy was all wound up. His button oddly enough was „animals,“ „an injured animal.“ Well, I don't know what that's got to do with Scientology to amount to anything because we're not auditing any animals, so he was very, very unhappy about the whole deal. He had to have all of his goals reoriented.

I have made people feel better by using straight Freudian analysis the way I got it from Commander Thompson who imported it to the US Navy, not via Catherine Horney. Wonderful pun on that name. Why this person should become an authority on Freud is beyond me entirely. Crude remark. Excuse me, ladies. But Freud's a pretty crude subject.

Well, this is a professional, occupational button as far as a Scientologist is concerned, because even if he were new and fresh in this lifetime at helping people, as he went plowing down the track handling the dynamite that makes men die, he'd sooner or later get himself keyed in someplace or another on some other time he was trying to help people.

But I got what I knew about Freudian analysis from a chap who had just talked with and listened to Freud for a couple of years. You know. And it was fairly straight from the horse's mouth. And it had factors in it that you don't find in his books. And also had factors in it which seemed awfully simple and reasonable. And Freud was much more interested in association. He was much more interested in association than he was in sex. And later on in his career actually did start changing his mind over to social. And he was getting - he was getting awfully warm; if he'd gone along for another couple of decades with any enthusiasm at all, why, he might have really fallen into something.

& Now, Scientologists all wince from being a minister, so that is a safe one to ask the E-meter about. Alright. Once again we have special effects, right? Alright.

He had this thing, see, when he talked about creativeness, he's always talking about artists. See? He's talking about artists. Only to him being artistic was a dramatization of being sexual. See, artistry was a dramatization of a suppressed second dynamic; and an artist became an artist because he was no fun in bed or something.

All right, let's go into this thing called Create, and here we get the master button. I'm very sorry that we don't have three, four hours of lecture here today because I - really, you ought to come right on up the line here on all of this dope that you are working with right this minute.

That's not true. I've lived with an awful lot of artistic people and I've listened to an awful lot of their women and it's just not true that they're in bad shape. It's quite remarkably the opposite. So I don't think Freud was a very good observer.

But here we go. This thing called Create is the senior button of all other buttons, so that anything creative can be suspect and this is really what you're going for when you're trying to find the Rock.

But here we had creativeness. Creativeness was mixed up with sex. And, sure, sex is an automatic creativeness and it's a very late lock on the whole chain of creativeness.

The whole Rock sequence hangs in under this button Create. And you might say that the Rock - as important as it is, and as it seems to pervade everything else you're doing - is subordinate merely to the Create button in this chain of five because it's obsessive and compulsive creation which is being inhibited.

I've actually made people saner and ruined a whole series of experiments at Oak Knoll. They were taking Japanese prisoners of war and they were working them over with the administration of hormones. And they were trying to find out if hormones would bring them back to battery, you know, so that they could eat and so on. They had been starved so that when they began to eat they became very fat and food didn't do them any good; they were merely hectic on the situation. Food had become quite unreal to them. And these boys were in pretty bad shape after years in Jap prison camps on rice and almost never even any fish. And I used to catch these boys, every once in a while, because I was in a ward and a line officer can always take off one collar ornament in the navy and he automatically becomes a staff officer. In other words, you needn't falsify your insignia; all you have to do is become forgetful.

All right. We'll go into some more of that in just a moment. Now, I can say here that you should be suspicious of, then, when you're looking for the Rock, above everything else, all creative professions, actions or objects. And you'll get faster going along asking about sculpture than you will asking about the time they were a streetcar conductor, you know.

I remember how I got in the medical library there; I saw a marine on crutches outside the door and I said to the marine, „Come in in a couple of minutes and say, 'How are things going today, Doctor?'” and gave him a wink. And marines are usually prone to play tricks and that sort of thing and he didn't even quite know what the joke was but he was perfectly willing to play the joke. I walked in and stood at the desk of the head librarian who was guardian of the library. The library is divided into two sections; the general section and then the medical section. Well, nobody was allowed in the medical section except the hospital doctors. And so the marine came by in a couple of minutes and said, „How are things going today, Doctor? I feel much better. Do you think we'll have to operate?“ And I said, „Oh, undoubtedly we'll have to operate.“ And he said, „Well that's sad,“ and gave me the wink and walked on. And the librarian looked at me more fixedly and saw I was only wearing one collar ornament. Obvious. And I said, „I think I'll go into the library today.“ She said, „All right, sir.“ They don't call patients „sir“ no matter what their rank is, see. I went on into the medical library and studied there for the next year.

All those buttons come under - each one has its own particular route, but the Rock is under this Create, and that's all it's under.

But anyway - the barriers of this universe aren't as solid as they appear sometimes.

Now, this next thing is called Responsibility. If you want to be sure, always round off a process with Responsibility. If you want to be sure, test the sincerity of responsibility and definitions of, of a preclear.

Anyway, I used to get ahold of patients who were part of this experimental series on hormone administration. And a doctor there whose name was the incredible name of Yankeewitz - and he and I were good friends and he'd show me the records once in a while and expostulate and so forth. And I'd pick up, quick like a bunny, names on those who were showing no gain in metabolism. You know? I'd make it my business to look them up and sit down on a bench on the hospital lawn, you know, and quick slip them some analysis, and I could change his records. In other words, analysis could change his records but hormones couldn't. Ruined his theories; he didn't know what was happening after a while. I never let him in on it. Oak Knoll had a lot of research projects going - that was Oak Knoll Naval Hospital. In view of the fact I wasn't sick, I was just banged up, why, I had a ball.

After you've run Help - after you've run Help on a red ruby, if you want to be sure, don't buy Westinghouse, run Responsibility. „What part of a red ruby could you be responsible for?“ You just want to dust that thing off the rest of the way. Why?

But the point is that you can take sexual locks off a case, if you get them off and don't evaluate for the person, and he will feel better and he will recover. Now, that's an interesting point. There's an awful lot of evaluation I don't think Freud ever much engaged in. And after all the center of learning for that particular subject, clear over in Vienna; very few people ever went there; when they got there they were not in shape to listen. No telling what Freudian analysis is.

Most auditing is looked upon by the preclear as a new system of blame. And it's not. And all a preclear is really doing when he racks around on the track is finding new things to blame. But in view of the fact that, particularly in his own mind, he created them, he's blaming his own creations, therefore he's denying himself thoroughly and he's the best person to invalidate self that you could ever find. You could never find anything more thorough in invalidation of self than the preclear himself.

But you, as an auditor, in running down the Rock, will start making a person feel better the moment you enter into any corner of the field of creativeness. It's arduous to enter it from a sexual angle and not very profitable because that is the one subject in the society that isn't talked about, ever. And so you're trying to break down his withhold from the auditor when you enter this particular subject. And it's not more beneficial to handle sexual locks on a case or sexual objects, frankly, it's less so. You could take almost any case and run Help on a painting or the materials of painting and get some tiny gain which would be quite permanent. And so you could take any other artistic pursuit and follow it down the line and it'll lead you to the Rock.

So when he starts wracking around the track, he really is trying to find things to blame. „Is this what caused my aberration?“ is his primary question.

Of course, the Rock is so unreasonably on the creative line that it is not always immediately discernible simply by following down an artistic line. You see? Aesthetics are very high and very potent in diagnosis - anything appertaining to aesthetics - but are not the whole story by a long way because you might get the reverse. It might be the ugliness of a house that eventually turned him against houses. The ugliness and confusion of the house associates itself with pain and unconsciousness experienced in the house and we get a nice Rock called a „house.“ Which goes on back to being a cave. Which goes on back to being anything you could be in. And it goes back and apparently is just all traps and then eventually turns out to be a specific type of trap.

When you start looking for the Rock, you run into this one directly: „Is this what caused it? Is that what caused it?“ Caused it, be damned! You caused it! The only thing that's wrong with it is you don't know it. Cause has very little to do with it, but knowing about it certainly does.

And sooner or later along that line you'll run into an aesthetic trap. And when it clears off, the individual begins to feel quite a bit better because he's not now ashamed of using aesthetics. See, when he ran into an aesthetic trap he became ashamed of using aesthetics one way or the other. That's not why we're not doing it in Scientology: that's because aesthetics are not much in agreement with the society at large and the only people you pick up because of total aesthetic are just people who are crazy as bedbugs.

As a matter of fact this is sufficient that you could say, really, if there was ever to be found a sixth button, it would be „unknowingness.“ But in view of the fact that Not-know processes don't at once lead to Clear, because the Not-know has a lower harmonic of the inhibitor, and every time you start auditing the inhibitor, you start uncovering creations that he's making obsessively and the creation gets brighter and they knock the preclear's silly head off. He's silly because he's mocking something up with a battle-axe in its hand, and as you uncover the inhibitor, you move the battle-axe figure a little bit on time, and just as surely as some of these automatons that strike gongs when it's 12 o'clock, the battle-axe will come right on through.

Male voice: Just on an inversion.

Don't expect, of course, that a preclear's head will be found in a very short time lying on the floor if the battle-ax passes through his neck, but also, don't be surprised if it does. If you find the pc's head on the floor because he cut his own head off with a mocked-up battle-axe, don't be at all surprised. You'll have the satisfaction of knowing that he did it.

Hm?

Now, to get back to Responsibility - get back to Responsibility - assignment of blame, or assignment of cause sometimes makes the preclear the effect and where the assignment of cause is creative cause, the preclear of course can become the effect of it one way or the other. The picture, however, is not as grim as you would suppose. But certainly Irresponsibility is a senior button to Knowingness and Not-knowingness, because you might say that Irresponsibility is only not-knowing about it. See, that's the primary irresponsibility.

Male voice: On an inversion of it. On an inversion of it.

How do you become irresponsible for something? Well, you just forget it. It's even a cliche in English. Guy has a flat tire, takes his best girl out, got a flat tire. Eh-eh. So he says, „Forget it. We'll walk up the road and get something to eat at the diner and have a date anyway,“ and just leaves the car sitting there. Get the idea of that? It's being irresponsible for the object during that period of time. See?

Mm-hm.

So you might say that not-knowingness is a method of irresponsibility. Irresponsibility is how people get into knowingness and not-knowingness. People don't get into irresponsibility because they knew and not-knew. Do you see this? Why?

Now, diagnostic procedure does include legitimately any subject of creativeness. But remember the physical universe is a subject of creativeness and that has a variety of forms. The entirety of the reactive mind is a subject of creativeness and that has many objects and forms. So just take your choice.

Running Responsibility turns off and on the phenomena of know and not-know. Running Know and Not-know often doesn't influence the factor of responsibility at all. So which is the highest?

Every once in a while you see an artist who's falling flat on his face and you say, „Well obviously the Rock has something to do with composing music.“ And you're generally as wrong as Congress. You generally are. It may be some form of artistry but it's not a form he has practiced anywhere along the line. Although there'll be a tab out on it; there'll be a little tab out on it which is pretty clear. And it's one of these locks I was talking about yesterday that just never seems to erase or change.

This is quite amazing for a fellow to realize, since we've been told and told and told all down through the years by every sect and religion and wise man, soothsayer - oh, for billions, trillions of years! I mean this thing has been in this universe: „Knowingness is all.“ See? Knowingness isn't all at all. It's Responsibility; Responsibility is above Knowingness and it is a button from which a preclear will flinch as though you have just presented him with a red-hot eye-puncher-outer. He'll really flinch from that one.

I'll give you an example of this. Have to move this around because it's a current example. Having a little bit of trouble - I've had a couple of kickbacks lately because people thought their cases were being described. In neither case was it true but people get edgy sometimes.

Anything which turns on and off something else could be said to be senior to it. The light switch is not necessarily more important than the light, but it certainly is the thing which monitors and controls the lights. That is not a good analogy because a light switch is not primary. It's of course, the electricity coming over the lines or is it the dynamo in the local light plant, or is it the coal, or is it the plants that decided to live in some long-forgotten past that made the coal? And we get into merely the total association which this universe presents you with at every hand.

Little boy playing music. Natural - absolute natural up to the age of about four. Tone true. Rhythm true. Everything. One day his mother said to him, „We'll have to give you lessons.“ He never played another note this whole life! But tried very, very hard to be an architect. Whole lifetime devoted to architecture. Eventually architecture folded up. Trying to rehabilitate him professionally discovered this music lock clear back when he was four. And nothing that he had ever had happen to him in auditing had disturbed this statement of his mother's, „We'll have to give you lessons.“ And he'd gone almost nuts with this thing, you know. He tried to add it up to lessons-school, must be an aversion to school. See? He tried to add it up to he couldn't have the piano. See? He tried to add it up to incidents where he'd been punished for learning. Oh, he just tried to integrate this thing all over the place. But it was lessons he was trying to integrate. Never after the moment he was four did he ever think about music or being an ambitious musician or studying music or having anything to do with music. And if you'd said to him, „musician,“ you probably would have got, momentarily and not - it wouldn't have happened if you kept pressing it - after a short time he would have gotten a stuck needle. But, if you said, „musician,“ to him, this would have meant nothing to him. He would go out and maybe listen to some music; he wasn't interested in music, it had nothing to do with anything. That was the Rock. That was the Rock. An old, old-time unpronounceable music instrument, about eighteen trillion years ago, was the Rock. The only evidence that was there was this simple remark by his mother, „Have to give you lessons.“ You see? That blew at once.

Well, a case gets jammed up into this total association and he feels he can't be responsible for all of it. He sometimes makes an heroic effort and decides to be responsible for all of it because if he doesn't he'll have some vast consequence. That's also a cute one that you'll run into in auditing.

But what auditor would ever dream that you go through all of this tremendous quantity of locks that weren't moving, you know, to find this thing? Took up every artistic pursuit the man could have engaged in that would have anything to do with architecture. And there was a little bop on form but not enough to worry about. You know? It was music, musical instrument. He'd not thought about music, done anything with music, and so forth. He himself, though, in his general conversation, would often have very, very positive opinions on music. But when you call this to his attention - I tested this out afterwards - he had no recollection of it whatsoever, of ever having expressed his opinion on the subject of music.

The fellow is saying, „Well, I could be responsible for this. I'd better be!“ he's really saying to himself. „I'd certainly better be responsible for this and better be responsible for that because if I don't I'll get a psychosomatic illness and I won't be Clear.“ You know, consequence-consequence-consequence. That's a low, enforced responsibility.

He had tremendous concern over his hands. And he had this to do with drawing, he'd added this up to drawing; he was afraid that if something happened to his hands he wouldn't be able to sketch houses and things. See? These things were lying all over the case, don't you see, but just none of them added up because the preclear was of no assistance. Every time you'd talk about any incident like this, „We've got to give you lessons,“ and so forth, he'd go into a long dissertation on how bad schools were. It had nothing to do with it. Nothing whatsoever. There was a fantastic series of incidents had occurred, as I say, about eighteen trillion years ago with a musical instrument, we have no thought of, shape of or anything else. And it helped him, a thetan, create music. And he, a thetan, could, prior to that, create music. And then this instrument and his profession in using this instrument continued on for many lives and then eventually betrayed him utterly, knocked him flat, washed him out and fixed him up royally.

And nevertheless, as that light switch is senior to the lights in terms of causation, so is Responsibility senior to Knowingness and Not-knowingness, and this I say into the teeth of all of the soothsayers that ever soothed.

Now, that gives you an idea of how abstruse and around Robin Hood's barn one of these darn Rocks can be. But it's always a good thing to look down the creative professions. You may hit pay dirt quick. Questions that have to do with creativeness very often hit that.

Yes, it releases if you know about it. Neh-heh! But how do you know about it? You be responsible for some part of it and it's liable to leap, full armed, into your teeth. And for a little while, you wish you damn well didn't know about it because it turns on a lot of somatics and it's a lot of grief and it's a lot of upset; and if you go over the hill and a little bit higher up the line on the thing, a little bit more responsibility turns on a little bit more knowingness.

Similarly, questions on the other buttons. You could say, to expect the preclear to tell you right out and out is a lot of expectancy on your part. That's for sure. But you can ask a preclear „Things he's not at all responsible for in the world around him.“ And he'll give you a list, one of which will contain the Rock. One item in the list will certainly lead you into the Rock. Things he's not responsible for. He'll tell you electric chairs or something. Well, electric chairs might lead you daaah, see, anyplace.

Searching for data is not as reliable a method of obtaining facts as taking responsibility for the object you wish to know about. If you don't believe it, take a little kid sometime and show him a machine and if he can at all grasp this concept of responsibility, get him to take responsibility for various parts of the machine and then listen to him tell you what the machine is all about.

Yes?

Now, education is that system of giving people data without making them responsible for any of it. And you get a data trap and we are right straight back to Change again, aren't we? We are right back to the beginning of the parade.

Male voice: Well, Ron, about how many locks are there to a Rock? Do you have any idea?

Now, an individual who will not take responsibility cannot change, and a person who cannot change cannot handle any problems, and a person who can't handle problems certainly can't help, and a person who can't help anything certainly won't create. And a person who can't or won't create is doing so because he can't or won't take responsibility for the actions and parades of his creations. So this little thing goes round and round and round in an endless cycle.

The whole aberrative sequence of the case. And it'd be some incomprehensible number. It'd be, you know, I could just give you a number to give you an idea: if you started up in that corner of the wall there and started writing across in microscopically small numbers and put one and then zeros and then continued on down the wall with zeros all the way to the bottom you would have some, just idea of magnitude of the number of locks on the Rock.

One button runs into the next button, runs into the next button, runs into the next button, runs into the next button.

Male voice: Well, this doesn't quite add in with my understanding, and I mean my personal understanding...

And now we're going to get back to anatomy which was what I told you about. I've been talking to you about the thought anatomy of a case.

Right.

The anatomy of a thetan is: thought products. See? He is self-thought products. Got that?

Male voice:... is that there's locks to the Rock, is that right?

His products can be additional thoughts. But when we say „products“ we mean in essence that which everybody else considers a „product“ which contains space, energy, mass and exists in time. And every product which you see anywhere was developed by a thetan.

That's right. These things are all associated with the Rock.

Now, I have talked about a special effects case so that you would understand what you're up against when you try to disentangle a case and find yourself a special effects case as an auditor. You as the auditor are being a special effects case when you will not confront the mass, space, energy, time products of a thetan.

Male voice: You mean you have to go through all those to find the Rock?

So that the more you get into the ideas, the more you get into the complexities of thought, the more sold you get on the idea that you can avoid matter, energy, space and time. And you start figure-figuring as a special effects character, you're using thinkingness when you ought to use a shovel! Because mass is not a product of thought! Someday, somebody will hear that and boy, will he become a whiz-bang as an auditor!

Fortunately you've got a process that blows them at the rate of dozens of those zeros at a crack.

People have believed on this track for Lord knows how long that, „If you thought a thought you got a mass.“ Now, I took this up yesterday. No! No! Think a mass! See? Think a mass, don't think a thought to think a mass!

Male voice: I see.

„Now, I am going to put up a wall. Now, wall, appear.“ And it appears. And you say, „See, it appeared because I put up a thought.“ Damn, it didn't! You went through all this mumbo jumbo and then you thought a wall!

Help. Help definitely does.

Christian Science tells you that there is no mass nowhere, noplace, nohow.

What are they? They're basically assistance. And he'll go to the bottom of this chain if you're on it at all and if you're at all alert.

& And I say it ungrammatically to express my contempt. All is infinite mind and mind is thought, and if you think right thoughts, everything goes to hell. Now, I never really sneer at other people's beliefs, I only sneer at their facility to believe lies.

No, it doesn't violate your understanding of it. You don't handle all of those things. That's just the number of things that are associated with it in terms of locks, and those are the number of things that fly off of it. And practically none of them are ever inspected. You may inspect a few thousand of them at the absolute outside. They're just flying apart in all directions.

Now, here we've got a good one - here we've got a good one. It says, „Avoid all mass.“ It said, „The masses will all right themselves properly if we just think the right thoughts.“ That's at least the impression people get out of it.

Yes, Bruce?

Now, please, as a Scientologist, don't follow that same route - please - because the route doesn't exist in Scientology. Read the Axioms. In Scientology, mass is; it is. It isn't whether it's real or not real or exists because of you or exists because you thought it up or any other nonsense; it simply is. And someday if you can just get this through somebody's skull - that it simply is. See? It isn't there because. Do you get the idea? It isn't there because you are hypnotized into believing that it is solid or...

Male voice: How long would you say, if there was any average, it would take you to find the Rock?

Look at all these silly vias, see. There are just vias, vias, vias; they're going all over the place. You know? Anything to escape the idea of responsibility for being able to think mass! Do you recognize this as a primary irresponsibility?

Well, that's the difference between whether it's me doing it or Dick's doing it, or you're doing it, or who's doing it. And modified by the abstruseness of the preclear and his ability to contribute to the session. If he's at all being helpful, the more helpful he is, the more easily he presents you with the Rock. You shouldn't just kick his help in the teeth all the way down. But I would say that it is some small fraction of the auditing time certainly. Possibly the number of times you have to go into analysis for the Rock, the number of times you have to analyze for it, added all together, might be ten, twenty hours, see - the number of times you might have to.

You see? It is. That's all you'd have to say about it, you see? It's too horribly simple. It isn't a delusion, you see; it is itself. It isn't a belief you have; it is itself. It isn't even an agreement; it simply is. Now, if you can untangle this, never thereafter will mass on a case, particularly the Rock, confuse you. You'll never be confused about the Rock.

Let's say the case was very difficult and all you kept doing was auditing things off the top of the Rock and you'd had to go back and analyze again and then audit some things off the top of the Rock. Well, that would be to my thinking a rather extreme case of diagnosis. Does that answer your question? It's a finite number of hours, less than an intensive, certainly.

The Rock isn't a belief, see, or an agreement or anything else - it simply is! And it - isness creates resistance electronically which reads on a meter.

Yes, Hal?

Now, you could take something and say, „It is“ and then come along and say „Squash! It is not,“ and have yourself the most beautiful hash you ever tried to get indigestion from.

Male voice: The reason on this Help then, that you blow these locks so fast, you can go directly from the service fac into the secondary.

People are coming along religiously and saying, „Everything is simply a belief“ or so on. Wow! Boy, did they take havingness away from anybody. I think that's one of the most expert games of can't-have I ever saw played.

Oh, yeah.

Fellow comes down the street and he gathers a bunch of people together and „You see all this stuff? Huh. It isn't.“

Male voice: Can you get a dramatization of the emotion?

And they say „No?“ And they say, „Well, we're willing to be irresponsible for the stuff.“ My, my, watch it fade out!

You're liable to.

All you do is have to slap an inhibitor on it and it's there and it's suppressed from being there. We call this not-isness in the Axioms - makes you kind of - funny when you think about it.

Male voice: All right. And where would this - the terminal would show somewhere in there then, huh?

Time isn't existing, either, by a mechanism. Time does not exist by a mechanism. Time just is. This stuff rolls along. To have time you have to be able to accept change. Well, that's fine, but time is. Do you get this trap? See? Time is.

Yeah.

Now, in order to accept what is, in other words, in order to not not-is it, you have to have a tolerance for it, and that's all you'll ever improve in a preclear as far as mass, energy, space and time is concerned. You improve his tolerance of it.

Male voice: Well if they didn't, if they had trouble with the service fac - and does this show very often before the locks? In other words, in scanning...

How do you improve his tolerance of it? You make him take responsibility for it. How do you do that? By demonstrating to him that it is within his creative range, that he can tolerate change and other special effects immediately surrounding this immediate fact of is.

Oh, your service fac - now you understand what a service fac is? A service fac is sitting right up in the front row and on the stage.

Now all we've done is discover the vias he gets out of the idea of is. Those ways he gets out of admitting things are, are these five buttons. Do you get the idea? But one of them is a direct is. But he can get so confused and via'd by it, that it is a primary method of escape from responsibility.

Male voice: Right.

He said, „God created it all and I had nothing to do with it whatsoever. God created all of it. I had nothing to do with it. Not even one tiny little atom of any part of this universe has anything to do with me. I'm author of none of it. Bury me deeply out over the green prairie.“

The service fac is only interesting to you in terms of analysis in that it is the thing which gets in your road when you're trying to find the lock.

Do you conceive that a mental image picture is any part of a human body or can join itself in any way to a human body or modify it in any way, or add any mass to it in any way? Do you think this is possible?

Male voice: The common denominator, right?

Well, look - look, there is an isness, isn't it? And the body's in the universe, isn't it? Now, we don't even have to conceive the idea of it being buried and going away to „dust is to dust.“ See? It is in the universe right now; it doesn't join the universe by dying or any other cockeyed via. You see? It just is. Well, if it's having any mass added to it at all by the concepts of a thetan then he has added something to the creative fact of isness of the physical universe. Do you see that clearly?

That's not a common denominator. It's the protective coating.

So he isn't sitting over here all independent of it and some Throgmagog someplace or another... The earliest concepts of this are not Christian; they are not Indian either, but on earth here you'll find them in the earliest Vedic writings, the earliest written record of these things of which I know anything, that you can verify at the local library.

Male voice: All right.

It didn't come from some exterior source totally. Now, nobody asked anybody to suddenly accept the idea that he himself personally is making the whole universe and is the only one doing it. That's a rather steep gradient scale. But one does look askance on the exact reverse of that: that he has nothing to do with creating any part of it.

Get the idea of this thing. It's what he uses in life to protect himself from ever falling into the Rock. Now, there's the essence of this case. There's the basic case. Now, you just got to get the idea of a service fac as a bunch of fabric which keeps the Rock covered. From what you're saying there, I see we can give you a little bit better understanding of this service fac. A service facsimile is that facsimile which the preclear is using to keep himself out of situations which will lead him to the Rock. So when you start looking for the Rock, the service facsimile comes up to the surface and dangles temptingly in front of your nose.

And that is as extreme and as unworkable and as incorrect as saying that you personally are the only one who makes it all and you are making it all, right this minute and nobody else has anything to do with it. Now, you see that's kind of a nutty remark, isn't it? You don't even vaguely have any idea of what the Chinese have to be continued to be mocked up as lately. You see, you're falling short there just a little bit.

Now, he has always had a bad stomach. Boy, it isn't any private bad stomach. This is the most publicly owned bad stomach anywhere around. You see?

But get the idea that you'd have to be responsible for not only the continuous actions of but the continuous mock-up of all of China, their customs, costumes and if you look at a Chinese street with 10,000 people on a short block, you get an idea of the number of bodies and the amount of confusion. And each one of these is individually being created by you simultaneously in all directions at the same instant. Don't you think it's kind of an extreme accusation to make? Huh?

Male voice: Yeah.

Well, it's just as extreme to say there's a god someplace that does it all and you do none of it. See? They can be equally incorrect. I think the least God would do - to enlist your aid a little bit here and there.

Because every time he couldn't go to school in the morning, he didn't want to go to school because he thought it was going to get him in trouble or something of the sort, he would tell his mother about the bad stomach. In other words, this bad stomach kept him from getting into things, for sure, or kept him from going along a wrong route. Well, the Rock is always the wrong route in his way of thinking.

Now, as we go along the lines, as we go along the lines here, we discover then that it's easy to get a case to concentrate on these five buttons in their state of vias and rather hard to get the case to concentrate on such things as the isness of. Pretty hard, but you can sneak up on it. You can swing in on it. You can bring him to a realization of it - by processing.

So, he sits there. All of a sudden he tells you that he has a bad stomach. And this is the thing which has troubled him mainly. Boy, you're looking at a service fac! You get the idea? This is his main difficulty in life, is this bad stomach. If he could just cure this stomach! He's saying, „Stomach, see-see, stomach, don't you go anyplace else.“ You know? „Don't-don't-don't ask me about anything - don't-no-ha-ha-ha-no, let's keep on a safe subject: a bad stomach.“ And this is the thing which derails the auditor. And every time you try to strike for the Rock you're liable to get a bad stomach presented. Now, you'll become convinced after a while that the bad stomach has something to do with the Rock. And what do you know, toward the last hours of auditing on the Rock, a bad stomach will associate as some part of it, but it certainly didn't lead into it, it led out of it. But it is of - well, it is mainly something that gets in the auditor's road rather than something that leads him anyplace.

And the only thing you're trying to get him to realize: that he's creating something he doesn't even know he's creating, in his mind, called the Rock. And your goal is isness, not thinkingness.

I almost clipped the ears of a couple of HGC auditors who actually sat and Q-and-Aed with, and yakked with, and took up one particular preclear's service facsimile, session after session and intensive after intensive. They went three intensives, two auditors, one on two intensives and the other on one; three intensives these guys were on. This service facsimile was so lovely they just couldn't leave it alone. And they never got anyplace with the case. The case just kept hanging fire and not advancing and so forth. And I finally turned around and had to grab the case by the nape of the neck and give him some free weeks and put an auditor on him and practically hold a gun on this auditor and say, „If at any moment during your auditing of this case this case mentions to you difficulty with a wife and you even acknowledge the fact, you're through!“ See, it was that grim. You just never saw the like of this one.

Responsibility for the isness of the Rock: No Rock! See, bang! Bang! That's all the process there is. Reductio to zero. See, that's all the process there is.

But it was the most gorgeous service facsimile. God, was it troublesome and was it involved and was it interesting and did it go into things! Wow! These two auditors were just as helpless as babes before this tremendous parade of drama. Person would come in in the morning all bandaged up from just having tried to commit suicide because of the wife, see. „Obviously,“ they said, „we can't get anyplace because it's a PT problem.“ And this had been going on for a few days. I finally cottoned to the fact that it was not a present time problem; his present time problem was the auditor. He'd go home and get himself into all the trouble he could possibly get into with his wife so he'd have a whole bunch more stuff to give to the auditor and then he'd never get any auditing done. You got that, Hal?

Recognize the existence of the Rock, take responsibility for the existence of the Rock: No Rock - boom! Boom! Fast Clear; that'd be the end of that.

Male voice: Yeah. That's - that helps.

Now, it's how steep a gradient can you attempt per preclear that establishes the length of time in clearing. The goal is to recognize the isness of the Rock.

My bitterness here was not directed at you in any way, get that. I mean, I was just trying to tell you - I was just trying to tell you how desperate this situation can become with this service facsimile.

Now, the goal of OT is to recognize, accept and continue to create the eight dynamics, his share of. Ha-ha! That's a little bit different, isn't it? So an OT's goal also contains a recognition of the isness of.

Now, a service facsimile, then, is the red herring. Maybe if you were - if you were ten times as adroit a mind reader as any great mind reader ever was you possibly could look into the service facsimile and pick up the Rock from the service facsimile. But that trick we have not yet mastered. And it'll become very obvious to you that some insignificant part of the service facsimile, at the end of the run, Hal, was part of the Rock. But every time you touch that close to the service facsimile, it just goes into restimulation and you've got a protective screen up in front of you and the preclear and after that you just don't go anyplace at all. Right?

And one might say that as you plow out the significance, you plow in the sanity. And as people are so reasonable, you find it almost impossible to knock on the door of some of their buttons; they are so reasonable that they could explain them all away with what gorgeousness.

Male voice: Yes.

The service fac is simply a method of explaining them all away and that's in plain sight. So the first thing you run into is the service fac.

You bet.

And under that service fac, you have locks, locks. And locks are simply moments of restimulation of the basic engram of which the preclear is to some degree aware. They're light; they don't contain pain and unconsciousness, but they take, from the basic engram on any chain, their force from the pain and unconsciousness in that basic chain. Got that? So, that's the next thing you run into, is lock.

Male voice: Well, if you're scouting then, the service fac ought to be a good clue you're getting close to the Rock.

And then you'll run into some secondaries. What's a „secondary“? A secondary is the emotional response derived from a mental image picture of a moment of pain and unconsciousness. That's a secondary. A secondary contains misemotion - grief, anger, extreme apathy, degradation, which is just an exaggerated apathy. It could also contain below apathy, and at the moment you look at the preclear and he's not crying if he has a secondary to the Rock which is tears, I can tell you very bluntly that he is below tears as he sits there in the chair in present time feeling all right.

Oh, yes!

Now, we're auditing so fast these days that we don't necessarily run through tears. The secondary is liable to blow without being dramatized. It also might get dramatized.

Male voice: Just before the service fac turned on is probably - well the service fac would be an indicator as a sticky needle.

But below this secondary, this misemotional picture or series of pictures, you get physical experiences, mismanaged isnesses, which contain pain and unconsciousness which have huge irresponsibilities connected with them, and he doesn't even know about it at the time.

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I'll tell you a better clue than the service fac, Hal, and everybody else, is: an area of the body the preclear's totally out of communication with and isn't mentioning. If those two conditions exist, boy, wow, boy, are you in a hot area!

That's the anatomy of the Rock; and the engrams, the secondaries, the locks and the service fac contain personnel associated with the computation. Therefore you run into incidents - time, the isness of time. You run into energy, the disintegration of masses, at one time fairly perfect and shaped up. Also the inhibitors. In other words, you run into chaotic energy flows of one kind or another. Therefore you run into actual space; there is space trapped in this series of incidents, these actual things. There is space there.

Male voice: Can it be in restimulation?

There is also, of course, mass. And all of these things are present in this chain. And all the five buttons are to some degree functional on this chain.

Hm?

And what you're looking for is a terminal, not an idea. What you're looking for is a mental image picture, not one created by a thought. You see, you're looking for it is. He may have a squash on it that says it is not. You start taking this squasher off of it and boy, is it!

Male voice: Can it be, at present, in restimulation?

You're looking for terminals; you're looking for actual existences. There is something there, it is!

A Rock is always in restimulation.

And so don't you Q-and-A with your own bank and go on looking for thinkingnesses and data and the other things I've been talking about, because those are simply via approaches to the isness of what is.

Male voice: No, the service fac, Ron.

Your pc wants the form he's got or something related to it, and the thing he is creating obsessively and doesn't know anything about is modifying the form he is creating and that includes the form of his own life and possessions.

Oh, the service fac. The service fac goes in and out. If you start asking somebody some part of the body they're not in communication with, you may come on down to a body part which could be run which would then unburden some part of the Rock. It wouldn't be it, but it'd unburden some part of it. Don't you see? And it would be worthwhile auditing. If you said to an individual, „Is there any part of your body you're not in communication with?“ And he said, „Well I'm just never in communication with my hands. I just never am. You know, I've had an awful lot of trouble with my hands. I had them mixed up in a threshing machine. And as a matter of fact I told my last auditor that if we could just get my hands straightened out, why, I'd be very, very grateful. I'd consider we'd really gotten somewhere in the session. As a matter of fact, they pain me considerably; you know all these horrible pains go across the knuckles all the time. And so forth. And you saying being out of communication with my hands, I certainly agree with you that I am out of communication with my hands all the time, there's no communication there at all. As a matter of fact, the pain is so bad..”

And you have two isnesses in counterpoise which are totally in conflict and they won't agree. So noncomputational things come flying off the case; problems come off of the case like mad. All kinds of things come off of the case because you have two counterposed isnesses that never get along together.

You see, you just ain't got it. That's it.

So look for the isness and blow it out.

And now - now supposing we discovered another one. After we probe around for a while and you being very - it doesn't necessarily take a lot of time now, doesn't take much time, but it's the resistance that comes up along the line - supposing you're saying, „Well, part of your body you're out of communication with,“ or something like that, and the fellow says, „Well, hands“ and „always out of communication with my hands.“ And you go, „Well, is there any other part of the body you're out of communication with?“ And he said, „Well, I just never seem to be in communication with - and just never really have any real communication with my teeth. You know? They ache a lot and..”

And in diagnosis, it's particularly true that you can't lose if you realize that what you're looking for exists.

Female voice: Toothache.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah.

„So - and I - as a matter of fact, rest of my body is okay. Rest of my body is okay.“ And you say, „Well that's fine. Now, how about your stomach?“ And watch that needle. „How about the right side of your body? How about the left side of your body?“ Ah, ah, we got a stick. Now let's just go all over the left side of that person's body and call off every body part until we get a stick.

If, as you discuss various parts of the left side of the body, your needle frees up again, you've got the wrong one. But the left side of the body is still producing a stick, let us say, until we get right on down to the left leg from the knee down. The left leg. And everything frees on it. You say, „Well, a broken left leg.“ Oh, boy, have you got a stick all of a sudden! See, it sticks hard. And then you say, „Well, a broken left leg would be pretty hard to have around, wouldn't it? Have you ever really broken your leg in this lifetime?“ And the needle's getting freer and freer and finally goes - say „left leg“ again - Pop! You pin it, see?

Male voice: Mm.

Anything you add to it frees up or whatever you start adding to it makes the needle rise, you haven't got it. See, you can free locks off of this thing or add locks to it and you finally get down to the fact that it's a tibia, the bone. The bone in the left leg. And from this area we might go into various lines of associated things like bones. The probability is we could run the left leg bone and we'd sure get someplace else on the case. I'm talking about very crude analysis; this doesn't have too much to do with factualness.

But he's been out of communica- and then he all of a sudden says, „Hey, you know, I just happened to think, you know, I never have any sensation in my left leg. I remember one time barking my shins and it didn't even hurt. I've always been proud of the fact that I could do anything with my left leg, you see, and it didn't even hurt.“ Now you've got a real communication-out-of area. See? That's a real one and it's a hot one. If he knew about it he'd have some responsibility for it. If he's got some knowingness or responsibility on that particular area - naw! The whole body will in this wise peel down usually to just one or two items, if you're going in for bodies. Don't you see? That's a desperation; you kind of work on bodies in a desperation. You want something to audit so you get something that sticks no matter what you do and it's going to take auditing to free it.

If it frees with two-way comm, why audit it? See? That's the main criteria. Now, theoretically you could be expert enough on two-way comm that you would peel the whole Rock right on down to nowhere and it'd be gone with two-way comm. But usually it takes a process.

Process is something like: you've been going along fine with a penknife and you've been getting out the slivers fine and you've got the limb in good shape with this little penknife, and there isn't any reason to turn around to the nurse and say, „Nurse, give me a hammer, chisel and saw.“ But when you've got a total stick - which is the usual case with the Rock - when you've got a total stick on the thing then is the time to turn around to the nurse and say, „Give me a hammer, chisel and saw.“ Now, it's going to take Help in brackets. Even a clearing of the word help, all kinds of things in order to blast this thing out.

Your contest in analysis and as you handle an E-Meter - I'll give you your procedures. Explore the fields of creativeness, any way you wish to. And if you find a needle sticking on some professional creativeness, now try to get various sections and parts of any of the equipment connected with that field. And anything that frees up as you talk about it isn't it. But the thing which consistently sticks, leads in toward it. So you keep trying to refine the thing that is sticking down to something that'll stick worse. And it's just a contest of making the thing stick worse and stick worse and stick worse.

And when you add things to it that make the needle start to rise steadily and nicely, you've got some new things stuck to it through your auditing. You added to the chain, you didn't make the guy better. See? But when it frees and you see that thing starting to sweep wider and wider... You took up an „artist“ and you got down to an „artist's palette“; „artist's palette“ - „artist“ stuck and then got a little bit wobbly; and then an „artist's palette“ stuck good and hard. And what's associated with a palette? Well, it'd normally be paint and brushes. See? So you say, „an artist's“ - you say, „paint.“ You know? And „palette“ frees. See? „Palette“ frees, but „paint“ sticks. Now you're all set - you're all set and you say, boy, we're right in there close - we're right in there close. And you say, „brushes,“ and it apparently sticks harder. And then „paint“ frees. Now „paint“ is free now. But „brushes“ are stuck.

Now. Now, you say, „canvas.“ Your needle starts to rise, still stuck. It starts to rise. You could probably go on from that point and add a lot of other things on top of „brushes.“ Well, this is a good indicator that it was „brushes.“ See, you got „paint brush“ - „brushes.“ That's at least a lead-in toward the Rock. See? And you start adding things around the room, they either do one or two things: they either just free a moment afterward - „canvas“ rises, rises, rises; „pictures“ some more rise, some more rise, some more rise; we go back to „paint“ and „pictures“ and „canvas“ seem to drop out but „brushes“ stay there. „Brushes“ stuck. See? It's a game in which you have a tremendous number of objects spread out on the desk in front of you. They are all more or less associated with one to another. You've got the wrong object if you get a free needle. You've got the right object if you've got a sticky needle. You are more correct, even, when the needle sticks harder. If you can free it, you're wrong. If you can stick it, you're right. And you'll finally wind up with something.

Well, this indicator, this nice beautiful little indicator that the thing is rising means you must have just a moment before hit a very hot part of a Rock. Because it's so hot that it'll pull in new locks on itself. Get the idea? So a rising needle is diagnostic if you're clever enough to remember what it was you just talked about before that thing started rising. It's a game in which you have these objects all fanned out in front of you. They are objects, they are terminals, they do have mass, they are being obsessively mocked up and they are being obsessively repressed.

There could be billions and billions of them. And the way to get in there is to find out what sticks - you're right. What frees - you're wrong. What makes it rise - you had the right one some time ago. Better track back over what you were talking about and listen to your preclear. From the mouths of babes all sorts of interesting things drop out. He will all of a sudden present you, unwittingly and unknowingly, with a major lead-in to the Rock. And then you go happily along the line and don't pay any attention to this at all and you're not getting anywhere - go back to what he said.

The odd part of it is that if you ask him, „What did you say a moment ago?“ he won't remember. He's no help as a recording mechanism.

After the session your preclear is liable to say, „How did you get off onto 'paint brushes'?“ „How did I get off onto paint?“

„Yes, how did you find out it was 'paint brushes'?“

Look at him in amazement that he told you. He was chattering along and you said, „What's, what is there about 'paint' there that's making this needle act this way?“ „It might be 'brushes.' Probably 'brushes,'„ he said.

And then afterwards you say, „Well...”

He says, „Where did you get this idea of 'brushes'?“

„You told me.“

He has no recollection of having told you about brushes at all. You see, that's the trouble with the Rock; it's a wipeout.

The appearance of the service fac, a feeling of illness that the preclear complains of, a feeling of restlessness that he can't put up with any longer, is your original area of protection. Now as you go a little deeper, however, his interest starts picking up.

There's another rule with relationship to this. A lot of rules can be followed in here. But another rule in relationship to it is: If his interest isn't present either in protest or in being audited, you're not very close to the Rock. And if he's in protest you're not really very close to the Rock. When you start to get on the actual Rock chain, his interest just gets deeper, deeper, better and better; and if you told him you were going to stop auditing, he'd protest. And he's five minutes early for the next session, whereas this has never happened before in his auditing history. You get the idea? There's tremendous interest in this Rock. You see? He's very interested when you really get on it. Although he's been fighting you just a moment before. He's been saying, „This terrible pain in my eyes and these ARC breaks and everything is going to hell and we're not getting anywhere and I'm starting to feel awfully sick at my stomach and this terrible pain in my eyes that turns on.“

Complain, complain, complain. And then all of a sudden, why, you start talking about a green emerald. See? And he, „I never thought about green emeralds before,“ he'll say. You know? And then the next thing, you know, he'll say, „Well what a goofy way to help a green emerald, grind it all up in powder and administer it to the emperor; just doesn't seem real; it's a silly question.“ By the way, there's an inversion that you could be fooled with on this answer. The sensibility of answers could fool you. Very often when you're close in to a Rock the first answers are the most reasonable answers you ever heard of. They are fast, prompt and so on. They do have this ingredient that you'd better look for: they'll start to go off in an automaticity in the first few questions. Brrrr! There'll be something go automatic, start to run.

But listening to the preclear, „How could you help a canvas?“

„Well, you could make sure that the tacks were in solid so that it wouldn't stretch too much, you know?“ „How could a canvas help you?“

„Well, it could sit still while I was painting on it.“

„How could another person help a canvas?“

„Well, he could deliver it on time so that you'd have it right there, you know.“ Sounds all very real. Sounds all very fast. If you ask him carefully „Has any moment here, four or five answers occurred to you, one right after the other?“ „Oh, yes, when you asked me how could I help a canvas, I sort of got - I had the idea of hands flopping around in front of my face,“ so on.

If the answer's reasonable and easy and there's nothing much to it, it's a fairly good indicator that you're not on the Rock except with this horrible example. See, it's got an automaticity connected with it. Because those answers will now generate insensibility to a bunch of inconsequential hash.

„How could you help a canvas?“

„Well, you could wrap it up very carefully into a cornucopia and you could put it up on top of a weather vane.“ Oh, yeah.

„How could a canvas help you?“

„Well it could make sure that there was not too much sod on my grave.“

Get it? Most reasonable answers in the world.

Any answers along the Rock will sooner or later strike a whole bunch of irrationality. There's no rationality connected with it whatsoever. Completely goofed. And the first person to tell you they're goofed are usually the preclear. And they'll say, „What?“ They'll give you this perfectly logical answer. „How could you help a river?“ „Well, you could wind it into small ribbons and put it onto a little girl's neck and that would help a river. Well, I wonder where the hell that came from?“ you know, the preclear will say.

So you know when you're on the Rock chain. I've got to talk to you more about this, but boy, you know when you're on that chain. It's got irrationality, your comm lags, your pc is very interested - you got all of the little automaticities that you'll hit, the field changes, cognitions start coming up. Even if you're on the Rock chain, not even on the Rock, and you're auditing something in desperation that is only associated with the Rock, why, you'll get all these manifestations.

Pc is sitting there not caring what happens and letting it all go to hell and so forth: you're not on the Rock chain.

Pc is protesting: you may be getting warm. But you're not there yet. Pc is certain that it is it, absolutely certain, and sells you a great big bill of goods that this is it and so forth: examine service fac again.

If he tells you, „I wouldn't think that would be it, how could that be it? I've never thought about that this whole lifetime. Isn't that funny, I've just never thought about that.“ Boy, you've got it.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Go and analyze properly this time.