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THE ENDOWMENT OF LIVINGNESS (3AAC) - CS Booklet, 9THE ENDOWMENT OF LIVINGNESS (3AAC)

ANCHOR POINTS, FLOWS

COMMUNICATION

Lecture 9 - D I S C 9
A Lecture Given on 7 January 1954
51 Minutes
A lecture given on the 7 January 1954

Okay, and this is the afternoon of January the 7th, 1954.1 have been covering with you with great speed—with great speed—the fundamentals which we are dealing with. And you may or may not be assimilating these fundamentals with great speed, but they’re terrifically fundamental and they’re very precise.

3ACC-8 5401C07
(60 min long)
(transcribed directly from the reels)
(rerecorded by HCO tape unit at St. Hill in the 1960s)

Any time that we have something we’re calling an "exact definition,” believe me, we mean it. Now a physicist’s definition is the closest thing to it and his definitions break down as soon as he moves into the field of nuclear physics.

This morning we're going to cover the entire subject of communication and then we're going to go look at it again so open up your ears and let's go.

Well, I haven’t found anyplace where these break down. Now, that’s a very adventurous statement to make, but I’ve been doing a terrific amount of investigation here in the last twenty-five years and, many times, we had many factors which seemed to explain a great many things. And in Dianetics we had many factors which explained a great many things, but we didn’t have our hands on all the factors.

The subject of communication consists of these parts: 1. The communication line and 2. The two terminals. It is intimately connected with cause and effect and when you put distance into cause and effect you get these agents, inevitably. It has this peculiarity. It is a complete duplication if it is a perfect communication. A perfect communication is a perfect duplication.

Now, I don’t tell you right this minute that we have our hands on every possible high fundamental definition, but I do tell you those definitions which we have our hands on, resolve any case I have walked into, to date.

Therefore an individual is caught between doing a complete duplication of what is communicated to him and being different and therein lies the entire anxiety of a thetan. There isn't any more or less than that. Simply that a perfect communication is a duplication and the thetan doesn't want to duplicate this exactly when he's in effect, and as a result he tries to be different and winds up in his being unable to duplicate - he thinks.

Now, what are these definitions? They are the definitions of a symbol, the definition of communication - how cause and effect actually operate, what duplication is and how it applies to communication. What a communication lag is. The fact that theta can put things and locates things in space and that it can create space and energy to locate in that space and form objects thereby. All of these are terrifically workable definitions.

Unwillingness to duplicate a communication is unwillingness to duplicate and unwillingness to duplicate then makes it necessary to change position in space. In order to keep from duplicating one has to change position in space if he's being duplicated to. Otherwise he's gotta hold the incoming communication rigidly in some fashion and not be part of it or one is a complete chameleon and simply turns into everything that comes his way.

However, at the same time, simply because they are a lower order of importance, we do not throw away, because of these definitions, what we know in 8008, what we know actually in Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health.

Now, let's examine communication. Drawing a two-dimensional graph on the subject of communication - just put a line down - and at one end of this line let's put C - that stands for Cause - and at the other end of this line let's put E - and that stands for Effect.

Now, let’s take an example of this: Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health has a couple of chapters there - one in particular - which are quite important to you. And one of those is that one on hypnotism, the artificializing of aberration. That is to say, how you can lay in artificial aberrations into human beings.

Now at the C end of the line, let us put also A - capital A - and at the E end of the line, let us put a capital B. Therefore we have a line A - B - one end of which is cause and the other end of which is effect. Now let's draw another line and label ... and, the end of that line which is B on the first line, let's call it A - and then let's put C there with that A. Now your line goes back over, it's parallel to the other line, and where we had an A on the first line, we now have a B on the second line and we also mark that capital E.

Now, if we take this on the basis of mesmerism, you know, and hypnotism - the physical rapport or the thetan - we have a pretty good picture of aberration. Now, we can apply duplication to this and we see immediately why people won’t look at things.

This is very easy to disentangle. It's simply two lines and the right hand side of the lines, of both lines, have A C - B E. And the left hand side have E B - A C. It's very simple, isn't it?

We say all the time “Look, don’t think.” Okay, if we say, “Look, don’t think,” then why? What’s back of this? Well, they won’t look at something and, as long as they refuse to look at this, they will remain aberrated by it. Because a lookingness is a kind of stoppingness. Lookingness imposes space on things and thinkingness just wonders.

Now we've got a two-way communication channel but there's no reason whatsoever why a communication line has to be in two directions but you have a graph there of a conversation. A fellow says "Hello". He's cause - that's at point A. That's what's known as a dispatch point ... or a source point - that's much better! And he says "Well" and the fellow over here at B says "Uhuh". Well now, that's E and that's the receipt point. So let's get this real clean here.

All right. Lookingness, then, imposes space and when an individual can’t impose space on something, he of course can’t look at it, so it collapses on him. Well, he’s all over the place anyway and lookingness is actually done by being willing to be something and then knowing where it is in space. That’s the way lookingness is done, it’s a very simple process.

These are actually source point, receipt point - exact terms that we're going to use for some time, I mean given something different than just a descriptive term. The fellow who says, "Uhuh", of course has started in at his end of the line and now he's Cause and it goes back to the other fellow who is now Effect of "Uhuh". The first fellow is Effect of "Hello" and the second fellow is Effect of "Uhuh". The first fellow originated "Hello" and the second fellow originated "Uhuh". Now that's your communication line working both ways.

Now, the engineer comes along and he tells you it’s done with photons. It isn’t done with photons. The moment you start to agree that it’s done with photons, you’re done, because you get immediately into flows. And I call your attention to 8008 and the Doctorate tapes - into flows. We don’t want our preclear into flows. Also, we don’t want him in agreement with the MEST universe. Why don’t we? Because the MEST universe agrees that the only way you ever get any energy is with two terminals. Well, the thetan can create energy.

Why does it work both ways? In this particular case merely because you're interested and you have heard a lot about conversation. Well, conversation, and I want to make it very clear to you, is a two-way communication channel. It's actually two communication systems. A communication system is only this: A communication system is only that first line - A to B - which the A end is Cause and the B end is Effect.

Now, where does all this take us? It takes us immediately to the fact that we have a pretty full picture of this now, when we can take a chapter out of Book One - which was the chapter which explained Book One and aberration - and we see immediately the mechanics of that chapter by what we’re doing right now. So we got a pretty full cycle here.

All right, now let's put a click in at New York City.... No - let's put a click in Rome and the communication line is going to Milan. So we get a click at Milan. Now we might use the same piece of copper wire to put a click in at Milan and get another click at Rome but it hasn't anything to do with the communication system. That's simply re-using the same line twice and re-using a duplicate system.

All right. How does duplication apply to this chapter about restimulators? The restimulator in the environment - here we have the posthypnotic suggestion.

Therefore, for the purposes of our system, a fellow shooting another fellow is in essence communicating with him. See that - for our purposes, that's perfectly valid. The sun shining upon you is, for our purposes and by the way perfectly factually, communicating with you.

Hypnotist hypnotizes somebody and he says, “Now, after this session, every time I touch my tie, you ate going to take your coat off. And every time I let go of my tie, you are going to put your coat on.” Okay, and then he wakes the fellow up.

Now we got ARC - A stands for Affinity - R stands for Reality - and C stands for Communication. ARC when combined together relay gradient scale which made up the Chart of Human Evaluation. Now, ARC inter-woven in this fashion is a degree of understanding. What we know as understanding. All mathematics can be worked up from ARC by the way. It's very, very interesting but it's just right there, pat and perfect.

He tells the fellow “Forget it” and so forth and wakes him up and then he touches his tie.

But, let's take a look at poor old ARC. Now, ARC is very good. A fellow can't live on the Third Dynamic worth a nickel without some ARC and yet at the same time, the most complete ARC there is. The most complete there is, is one dot - complete identification. Now, let's just look at that. That's a little play with words. When you realize that some day, a wee chill of horror is going to go through you.

And this fellow says, “You know, it’s sort of warm in here” and takes his coat off.

The task of the thetan is to interpose some distance on a communication line and as long as he can keep some distance on a communication line you know, not too much distance and not to little distance, he's all right. But when he becomes unable to interpose space between two terminals, which is, say two terminals, point A, point B, when he becomes unable to impose some space or imposes .... or is unable to limit the space between A and B, it's a unit condition, and A and B goes zee - it gets infinitely long or infinite distance or they go smash and collapse together. Well, when he's unable to control this distance he goes down on the one hand toward a complete identification when there's no distance in there and on the other hand, why he goes up toward an infinite difference which isn't good either because then he can't communicate with anything so he gets entirely lost.

Hypnotist will let go of his tie and the fellow says, “Well, it is a little cooler now” and puts his coat back on. The hypnotist touches his tie and the fellow says, “I don’t know, I guess I wasn’t too right about that, but this coat isn’t well tailored. I guess I’ll have to take it off and look it over.” And he no more than gets it off and the hypnotist lets go of his tie and the fellow says, “But it’s all right, really, and one shouldn’t sit around with his coat off” and the fellow puts it on again.

So when his inability's become great, he gets entirely lost, which you call a dispersal case. Or, the two terminals collapse and he gets entirely identified, which is your valence case, see.

In other words, he’s got a reason for it, he’s got a reason for it, he’s got a reason for it. And what’s the reason? It’s a looking signal that he can’t look at. Why can’t he look at it? Because while he was in an hypnotic state, he was made to not look. In other words, this one collapsed on him. He let this one in on him and then forgot that it had collapsed on him and so, he was a bundle of it.

All right now, what else is this communication line good for. Well, believe me it's good to solve every case you're ever into. It's that little graph - A and B - because also this thing is an electric motor. Essentially, an electric motor has two electrodes - yeah, two terminals and one of them communicates to the other and then that one communicates back again and as they go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, mechanically having distance imposed upon them actually, they generate an electrical current.

So, the next thing he’ll start to do, as he comes out of it, by the way, is, as he’s made to look, you know, and as the signal is used more and more and he explains more and more and it makes him sillier and sillier and he looks around... Actually, there’s another thing about a posthypnotic suggestion: the person can look around and see that he’s doing something strange, so that makes him look.

So, that those having trouble with communications is also having trouble with terminals, so his havingness is all shot and a fellow who can't exteriorize is having terminal trouble of one kind and another. Now you understand that one fellow can be having trouble with one peanut whistle worth of stray energy and the other fellow begins to have trouble with a hundred thousand volts - but it doesn't matter then what your force of the individual is or power or anything of the sort, just because he can't get out of his head, has nothing to do with his power potential. As a matter of fact, in this universe it works quite in reverse. The power he fights, he gets himself into a smashed down condition very easily.

If there was nobody around telling him that he was doing something strange, by the expressions on their faces and so forth, he would go on with that posthypnotic suggestion to the end of his days.

All right, let's do a ... what's this all about? Actually I've told you practically all there is to know about communication. There really isn't anything else to know about communication. But, let's look at valences and let's look at terminals. Well then, let's find out that the star Sirius shining upon us then is conveying to us a message called Sirius, see. The star Sirius shining upon us conveys that message. Now, in order to receive it utterly, we actually, some portion of our beingness must duplicate Sirius. But do an exact reverse, direction reversal duplication. You see that? An exact direction reversal duplication. You know who's feeding that direction reversal? - Right's left, and left's right. Maybe I communicated it a little too seriously. No pun intended. You see how that would be? Because point B is obviously a mirror image of point A. This is so much so that actually if you were to turn the dot and dash around and inspect them, you'd find out that they were writing backwards on the telegraph line but because they are occupying different intervals of time, you don't notice this.

Well, it’s not strange to go eat lunch. Nobody considers this strange. As a matter of fact, they’d consider you rather strange if you never ate any lunches. And so there’s nobody around telling you that it’s strange to eat lunch. So eatingness of lunches, of course, is nicely collapsed on you and you go ahead and eat lunches.

You send a dot, it's a dot. It doesn't matter whether it's backwards or frontwards. A dash is a dash. It still doesn't matter whether it backwards or frontwards because you've entered into a time element but if we sent an instantaneous impulse down this telegraph line why the electronic picture is in reverse to the eyes at the other end. And so it is with somebody standing up facing a group. He says to this group, "All right now your left hand", and of course that's his right hand, and so he has to reverse his directions in order to give directions to the group, see, because he's communicating.

Now, so many other things are interwoven and interlocked here and there’s so many reasons that anchor in between - so much agreement upon these things - that the second we start to take these things apart, why, other things bog down. And we get into an interesting condition where the fellow gets strange by being different. Now, he’s told that there’s something wrong with him because he’s omitting things. And people try to force him back into an agreement and eat lunch.

So his image actually is arriving in reverse. Now it not only arrives in reverse, but arrives upside-down. Why would it arrive upside-down? That's a very mysterious thing and yet a thetan has an awful lot of trouble with images arriving upside-down and quite often, when he comes out of his head, will smash against the ceiling. He's got his gravity in reverse. See this, because the guy's reversed in a horizontal plane then doesn't mean that this law gets excused in the vertical plane. It actually doesn't. He's just right side up, he happens to be, that's all.

But let’s look at this posthypnotic suggestion again and let’s actually examine the behavior of a hypnotized subject when this is used on him. The next thing he does is begin to find fault with the hypnotist’s tone of voice. He is liable to find fault with the hypnotist’s clothing and then liable to find fault with the fact the hypnotist is moving around and appears to be nervous or something and then all of a sudden spots this signal of touching the tie. All the time, this fellow, however, is obeying, taking his coat off and putting it back on again.

When you look this over ... the best way to look this over - I've lost you a little bit there - but the best way to look this over is to demonstrate that the image reverses itself at its receipt point and you're so accustomed to thinking that this reversal is occurring only in the horizontal plane because you live on Earth where everything is parallel that way, that you don't realize the degree of flexibility. Now, what you're actually communicating with, with an individual, his head and his feet, you see, and your head and feet happen to be in the same vertical plane, whereas your right and left side are not in the same you see, they are reversed.

Now, he finally spots this fellow touching his tie and he says, “Oh, you told me that during a session” and it’s no longer workable. In other words, by looking, he selects out, first, there’s something wrong with the room, usually, and then there’s something wrong with people in the room. And then something wrong with the hypnotist and then something more wrong with the hypnotist and then closer wrong with the hypnotist and then a littler closer than that and all of a sudden,ping! The posthypnotic suggestion is gone.

Now we're gonna have to get some cards and I'm gonna show you how this works out but it's terribly unimportant. What is important is the fact that you find most of your preclears have a direction reversal. They'll stammer for a minute. They'll start to go to the right before they go to the left and this is so hard for if you were to put up a sensitive electronic meter on the street, you'd demonstrate that, that every chauffeur, that every driver when he starts to turn left does a tiny little quick impulse to go to the right before he turns left. In other words, his training is a little bit deeper, it's a little bit stimulus response - this is very peculiar.

Now, we can make a statement, concerning humanity, that will work out in processing and work out very uniformly in processing. The trouble with humanity is that - it doesn’t need to be hypnotized - the trouble with humanity is, it я hypnotized and needs to be unhypnotized.

You watch a company of soldiers and so forth, and they have been drilled one way or the other. Well of course this child was ... this driver as a child was taught in a schoolroom so anything he's taught he tends to get backwards. I hate to, I hate to hang that on you as a necessity. It isn't a necessity. It is merely symptom how deeply stimulus response the GE has become. It has very little to do actually with the state of beingness of the thetan but the fellow's body is in a motor rapport with all other bodies which is why we defined mesmerism so closely the other day and nailed it down by letting you get it wrong.

And if you could just unhypnotize your preclear, suddenly and completely, why, you would have every effect which you will ever achieve by any other means, right there. Now, you could unhypnotize him simply by making him look. See, there is a pat, demonstrable method of - all theory aside - if you could just make him look long enough and wide enough and far enough, why, sure enough, you would have the fellow in good condition. He would behypnotized.

GE is the motor rapport and the GE gets it backwards. Now, the thetan doesn't get it backwards but the thetan has got to smash through all these stimulus response mechanisms in order to get an action. Therefore, a thetan is just purely and clearly directing out of whole cloth an untrained puppet. If that thetan ... if the puppet's in good condition and if the thetan is looking and his final urge ..., he isn't depending on any automaticity, can make an almost instantaneous reaction on the part of the puppet. But the more stimulus response we enter into the puppet by the last instantaneous reaction there is and so we get communication lag.

And the other part of this is, is people are convinced. Now you remember, I’ve said in the Doctorate tapes that the highest level of thought was - as far as aberration was concerned - would be conviction, he’s convinced. And so that’s the highest level and it still is.

Now, communication lag is that degree to which the thetan is depending upon the automaticity of the body - and that is communication lag. Now while the boy is interiorized, you start to give him SOP-8C and you find out he's slow, he's way down. Now, if you exteriorize him you'll find out that this condition is not quite so bad and then goes away quite rapidly and the first thing you know, boy you can check him through the darndest things and you just get - pang, pang, pang, pang - there's nothing to it. See what's happening there? While he's interiorized he is getting upscale and therefore more and more instantaneous and he simply starts plowing through all tangled networks and making direct connections and as soon as he starts to do this, he starts to knock out the stimulus response system he has to control the body like mad. As a consequence his reaction time gets faster and faster and faster on SOP-8C.

All right, he’s convinced of flows. Now, let’s go right back to that - he’s convinced of flows. Do you see the silly picture this immediately imposes upon looklngness? This is really silly. You could get down and hold your sides with laughter over this and maybe you will someday - I’ve laughed it out. But here’s what we have: we have that.window . .. If I can see that window, we have this problem. Then it must be that the window is putting out a pattern image from there, closer to me, closer to me, closer to me, close to me and it’s all the time reducing in some weird fashion. And it’s reducing and, somehow or other, is received in the back of my head on some sort of a screen which I then perceive. But we have images of that window coming in bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang. There must be a lot of those images of the window coming in on me all the time.

Now, it would be fun if the Psychological Foundation of yesteryear where the unit is being held, it would be quite a bit of fun if we met some of the equipment which was here once - the stimulus response equipment. What we could do is put somebody on one of these stimulus response machines and find out how long it would take him to press a button after he saw a light flash and then get him some 8C and see how long it would take him to press the button when the light flashed and it would be quite astonishing to you to see communication in action because in essence that's communication. The light communicates to the thetan and the thetan then directs that the button be pushed and he pushes the button. I don't care if he's in a body or if he's in a puppet or in a doll or anything else, that's all that's going to push that button for you.

Well, you can put up a camera between here and the window and, sure enough, the camera will register the fact that an image of the window has gone in through the shutter and hit the film. In view of the fact that you have agreed upon the film and agreed upon the light and agreed upon this whole problem and agreed upon the camera and the camera is a camera, why, of course, it’ll take a picture. So don’t just throw this out because a camera takes the picture. You agreed on the camera and you agreed on the picture and when you see it later, why, you’ve agreed on it and so on. The truth of the matter is that this becomes a slight idiocy.

And so we have the interesting condition of the light communicating to the thetan and the thetan communicating to the button and so we got a two-way channel which is the first thing we drew about. I have passed that two-way channel - it's as fast as it isn't automatic. Direct - that's a direct ratio - it's as fast as it isn't automatic - inverse ratio. The more electricity that enters into a communication line, the slower the line is.

How many would say that windows are traveling at 186,000 miles per second? Windows are traveling from that side of the wall to me at the rate of one full image at least every l/25th of a second, in order for me to see this. Oh, this starts to make a very complicated universe, doesn’t it?

Now, in Western Union Telegraph operation you get more and more relays entering into the line and apparently you're system as it becomes more and more automatic, becomes faster and that is not the case if you will examine the actual length of time it took for the message to go through this automatic machinery you would find out that it was exceeding longer and longer and longer a straight wire problem. You know, we just had a click going in on one end of the line and a click coming out at the other end of the line. It would be quite fast but as we fit in relays and things to receive it and things to pull back and unback and things to connect and unconnect and dials to go and all that sort of thing - the more stuff that goes into that line the longer it's going to take that electronic impulse to come back.

All these things, all these pictures are going in all these directions at this speed simultaneously and everything is doing this and it’s doing it on a 360-degree sphere and we get something that’s very funny indeed. It would become a solid mass - all of space would become a solid mass if this were happening the way it says it happens. Well, we haven’t agreed that space becomes a solid mass, so it doesn’t. We’ve just agreed on flows.

Well that's purely mechanical but that's what Mest does. Mest puts time into a communication line. There isn't any communication line in time in a thetan. A thetan does not consider communication line in time - he is instantaneous. And the more noise then we enter into or the more circuits or the more wire - you see it takes up an actual finite time for an electrical impulse to travel a foot on an electrical wire. It takes time for it to do so. And that time itself is communication lag and time then applied to communication gets very interesting. A star blows up out here a few light years away and a million years later, why we see the star blow up. Oh boy!

Well, you get a preclear who’s agreed on flows and he will sit there and he’ll run outflows and inflows and he’ll get stuck flows and this flows and that flows and so on - he’ll have more fun with flows.

Now a thetan with no dependency upon Mest and no great agreement with Mest at all will have seen the star blow up the instant it blew up and so we get these strange things that are unaccounted for right down the track where the fellow knows something is going to happen. Well the funny part of it is, it's all an instantaneous problem anyway and so the thetan can receive messages before they are sent - Mest wise. See it's instantaneous..

Well, a hypnotized subject can mock-up a kangaroo and have the kangaroo bite him and the teeth marks will appear. In other words, the hypnotized subject will have more fun with flows or more fun with kangaroos or more fun with anything you tell him to have fun with, than you can readily think up in a hypnotizing afternoon. Now, that is an interesting fact, isn’t it? That you can tell a hypnotized subject anything and he will then perceive it.

Now that shouldn't exceed your understanding very far at all. If the thetan is always in unit time, he's, always in unit time whether the year is one thousand or the year is two thousand and all you're getting there is a shift of particles and if Mest itself in the co-motion of these particles, is itself time, then you see if there's no co-motion of particles, there's no time for the thetan. See, that's very simple.

Now, I have carefully explained all about flows to a hypnotized subject, explained to him how this was and got him to agree completely the way this was and, immediately afterwards, had his body form completely alter. It was smashed so flat with so many incoming flows and the complexity of the problem was so great and his brains were so strained by the whole deal that he was becoming solid mass at a terrific rate of speed. So I unhypnotized him and tried to blow it.

So, naturally what happened to you in the year two thousand - accept this - what happened, happened to you in the year two thousand, happened to you - that's all. It will happen to you. What happened to you will happen to you because it is happening to you because it hasn't happened to you yet because it's happened to you already. I mean uour tenses, it don't make sense. You just feel tense in the English language and throw it out the window because it doesn't make any sense to anybody.

And then, of course, I couldn’t blow it, because it’s set up as a very early basic automaticity and is the machine by which you set up this universe itself. And I couldn’t blow it till I blew that machine! And then I blew that machine and then I put the machine back again and we were all right. And by the way, I did this rather rapidly because I did it hypnotized-wise. I hypnotized him and processed him in and out of this machine and so forth and around and around. And we finally wound up - he was just about the same way he was before, you see? I mean, we got him restabilized and squared around. And then I scanned out the session and knocked out all the rest of the things that had happened in the session and we squared all that around. And we brought him out the other end just simply knowing he had been hypnotized and some strange things happened. He knew about those and he wasn’t thinking anything more about it.

See, therefore you start letting past and future as blocks out of a thetan and of course his reaction time starts up and his communication time starts up like mad and as you enter Mest thoroughly he becomes more and more anxious about the past and future. You see? He becomes more and more anxious about the past and more and more anxious about the future because he thinks that he has to wait for the particles to move before he can have. His havingness then depends entirely upon the motion of the particles around him.

But it might have seemed very peculiar to him, if I hadn’t knocked the charge out on it, but his face, instead of being peaked and narrow, became flat. And of course, you know it can’t become flat, because it’s composed of bones and these bones don’t do that.

But of course a thetan can mock up something which can endure a billion years or endure a split instant. It just doesn't matter which - he would have it. You see that?

You can say the same way, “babies don’t get born either.” Because obviously, a baby’s head can’t possibly go through that, it’s made out of bone. But that’s more credible that a baby gets born than what does happen with regard to the body.

I'm overhearing there's a long heart-felt sigh over there. (laughing)

Now, don’t you go trying these things on somebody here for some little time, because I have occasionally turned this datum loose and I’ve immediately had somebody go out and try to do it on somebody and he didn’t estimate - he missed one thing - he didn’t estimate the aberrated condition of the subject. And so, when he did it on the subject, he almost blew the subject out through the roof. And that’s this: you can misplace a set of anchor points in the body in such a way as to make the joints bend in the wrong place. That’s cute, isn’t it? The joints don’t bend and the bones don’t bend in the right place. That’s because the basic agreement of all this is on the subject of an electronic structure, not a structure of mass and electrons and atoms.

Well therefore a mock up, not really made out of Mest energy and not perceived in Mest space, is itself either timeless or a split instant of time. This doesn't matter which you said. You could actually find the mock ups which you made eight billion years ago - quote "sitting right around you" unquote - because here then we get the problem of distance. If we're not using Mest space, if we tailored up our own universe, why it doesn't have this identical time line because you haven't set it up on the same co-motion of particles.

We are dealing here, then, with an electronic structure which doesn’t include atoms and molecules. There is the bridge between theta and MEST, you might say, there is the gradient scale. It’s the anchor points of the body.

But of course at this point we go adrift, we go off into theory and we go off into an awful lot of things and we're not even interested in that. The point is that an engram can stay in suspension, which is the only point I'm trying to make, because it hasn't happened and now will happen. An engram is happening. See, that operation that you're in, you're still in the operation. I didn't want to encourage you this morning - make you feel better - it hasn't stopped happening just because Mest said it did. But you dive over from this operation. You wanted this operation not to happen anymore so you say "Well I'm an old pal of Mest - that's the physical universe - the particles have moved on" - hah - they have not.

And now we have our problem laid before us very plainly. The viewpoint of dimension makes space. The space of the body is held in place and the body holds itself there and materializes in the space of the body anchor points. When these points are in resonance with somebody else’s points, you get a condition of mesmerism. And when you get a body in resonance - its anchor points in resonance with a wall - that is to say, pretty much the same wavelength, in other words, agreeing with MEST, it will take on the characteristics of the wall to some degree. It will become flat and so forth.

Now as far as the actual operating chair and the motion of the fellow doing the operation and all of this sort of thing and the position of your Mest body - yeah, this is all composed of Mest particles. You understand that? So the particles have changed pattern but all we're interested in is the thought aspect of this and if you're interested in the thought aspect of this operation, it is happening, see, because as far as you're concerned, why it's happening, that's all. It never will be otherwise. It always is happening. So, you decide that's the best thing in the world for you to do, that is to get lots of distance between you and that operation and that's why fellows start running. He was unwilling to do a duplication at that point so he makes Mest his ally. He no longer wants to be at that point.

When you get a body in complete agreement with a planet, it’ll start taking on the characteristics of the planet itself and it will start feeling the gravity flows very heavily. But what do you have to do, to do this? You have to get the anchor points of the body in agreement.

I'll ... It's probably not very clear but a little bit later on in this course I'll ... I want you to listen to this tape again and you'll wonder what the hell was I confused about. It's simple.

What are these anchor points? In their optimum condition, they are gold spheres of various size, which either stand independently or in pairs or in sheets - little gold spheres that make sheets. And these hang around in various parts of the body.

One of the things, the misapprehension under which you're laboring, is that theta has a position. Theta makes positions and then views from any position and you're just as much a thousand feet back of your head as you are in your head any day of the week. There is no difference between Mest. Therefore when you say somebody's in his head, this gets very silly. You know, a fellow gets very silly - he's in his head - but he's also a thousand feet back of his head. It all comes down to - what is he looking at? See, he's not looking at anything a thousand feet back of his head. He's looking at things in his head. In other words, he's geographically located his viewpoint. All that takes is merely a conviction that he's in his head. That's all it requires.

Now, how many anchor points are there in a body? Actually, there are only as many important anchor points in the body as we used to count up control centers. Now, the anchor point is the control center. We’re interested in the control center, we’re interested in shifting controls on the body. Just shift that knowledge, yourself, over to handling of anchor points in the body.

Now, you can get the equal conviction and again, if we had some of the equipment around here such as blackjacks and PDH (pain, drug, hypnosis) equipment that's used in the science of psychology it would be very easy for us to demonstrate this clearly. You simply hit somebody over the head hard enough, you know, and he know he's there. He's received that impact. In other words he, he, he notices, he notices a fast change of Mest and he decides that he can feel this. He's decided no bluffing.

An auditor omitting to do this occasionally gets a nonexteriorization on the part of somebody. Why doesn’t somebody exteriorize? He’s trying to exteriorize out of what you could call - and too much of a word, indeed - you could call it “warped space.” Its anchor points aren’t in the right place, that’s all. And he went in there one way and now you’re asking him to come out. And that route isn’t there, because there’s no space there and so on and it’s - they’re complex for him.

Well, he would be more convinced he was in his head if he were hit in the head, wouldn't he? Well, if we were to proof him up a little bit so that he were a bit jugged up and he were let us say in a state of high recipiency, we could take him and put him in one corner of the room and then we were to take a basketball and we were to take a blackjack and we were to start hitting this basketball in the other corner of the room, you see, he's sitting in one corner and the basketball is in the other corner, and we were to start hitting this basketball and... [gap] let's concentrate... just looking at the basketball, you see, and swearing and damning this fellow by name as we hit the basketball, he will get into the basketball because he's in the basketball in the first place, as well as in his head...because there's no science involved here. You see, it gets a very very interesting problem. But he can make up his own universe and say its size and so and so and so and he becomes very comfortable.

The anchor points are out of position. In any body that is ailing, the anchor points are out of position. If a football player goes out on a football field and sprains his ankle, you as an auditor, whether you even talk to him or not, can simply snap that anchor point back into position and the sprain will disappear. How long will it take it to disappear? Maybe fifteen, twenty seconds - if there’s any time involved in it at all. So this is an important datum to you, isn’t it? This is electronic structure. If you drew the picture of this structure, you’d see two big wing - anchor points out there to the right and the left of the body, maybe fifty feet out. And you would see some more, more or less similar to those, which handle the outer space of the body. And then we would have other sheets of them that make the planes of the body.

His mock ups are far better, his running concepts far better in spaces he himself makes than space which he has borrowed from the Mest universe.

Now understand, these don’t make up the mass of the body, these are the things that make the space in which the mass can appear. The mass isn’t there, any more than it is there. What we’re dealing with is the electronic structure and the electronic structure consists of these pins.

Now you felt one boy ... I'm sorry I have to go this way in because... on space because one or two of you are liable to be confused about it a little bit later on, but one fellow puts up in this room, he puts up eight balls in this room and they're oriented against the corners of this room, you see, and they're oriented perfectly, and he thinks he's made some space. No he hasn't. He's put up eight balls. You know, to make some space, he has to put up the postulate that he's making some space and then he puts it up without any regard to Mest universe units and he has made his own space. Now in the later... latter stage it's very easy for him to make mock ups and in the earlier, it's not easy for him to make mock ups. He might as well have forgotten to put up the eight balls just because - he just put up eight balls in the room. Where did he put them up? Well he put them up at the front of the room and they're in such and such a relationship with the corner. In other words he oriented his anchor points against Mest. He let Mest tell him where to put his anchor points.

All right. Now, there’s a joint of the jaw: now, this is a good mass object, it’s made out of bone and gristle and a hinge and so forth. Well, isn’t it very strange that the jaw can get dislocated? Well, it gets dislocated and it stays dislocated, by the way, and gets put back in together and heals very slowly, because of one thing: its anchor point gets out of position too.

Therefore, people who put anchor points around the body and orient the anchor points by the body, don't make space. Even though they're still in their body, if they simply close their eyes and merely put up eight anchor points from where they are viewing them, they will have made their own space. You see, it's totally a matter, totally a matter of orientation from self and the orientation of self is simply that viewpoint which one happens to be using. There is nothing more simple than for a fellow to duplicate himself any place in the universe because he isn't any place in the universe because he is every place in the universe.

We used to say, which controls? Does the thought control structure or structure control thought? All right, we satisfactorily answered that sometime ago - thought controls structure.

Any one of you immediately, any one of you immediately answers up to the definition that has been given the anthropomorphic itself entitled God. Any one of you - because you're everywhere on omniscient and omnipresent, and on the bus (laughter), and everything - mm.

Now, how and what is the mechanic by which thought does control structure? Thought matches up anchor points or varies the wavelength or position of anchor points, which then controls structure. And that, in itself, is the bridge between thought and structure.

Well, that doesn't mean you're infinitely large. It does mean you're as big as the Mest universe. It could mean that you're as small as the Mest universe. You see what we're boxing with and what makes all this a ... you could make these terrifically incomprehensible remarks, is because all language is oriented against Mest. Language is defined by Mest. So, the second we start talking about these things with Mest language, it becomes balderdash. You can say, "Well, I guess I will have eaten lunch a couple of hours from now last year" and it makes just as much sense as anything else you would say in Mest language because the element of time is entered by the co-action and co-motion of particles.

Now, what is the bridge between you, as a thetan, and the body? And that structure is you, as a thetan, via the anchor points which you handle and mock-up, via the anchor points of the body and then we have the materialized mass of the body.

And you are not a particle and thought isn't a particle and beingness isn't a particle and time is an idea of where the particles are located. You want to know why this fellow gets into a screaming fit and the guilt comes over him overpoweringly about something he did someplace or another - well gee whiz, for all intents and purposes he's doing it that moment. It isn't that he has a picture of it which he's running out. He can make a picture of it and then run out the picture of it. It's whether or not he's afraid of it and the running of an engram was much less the problem of smoothing out energy than it was the problem of demonstrating to an individual that he could experience something again safely. It re-confirms to him continuously that he can survive anything and as a result, he then changes his attitude toward existence and he thinks he doesn't have to carry that somatic anymore - he doesn't have to do this and he doesn't have to do that. So your therapy in Dianetics was simply aimed towards showing an individual that he could do it again and it wasn't necessary for him to brace himself all the time for fear it would happen again.

Now, these anchor points are quite visible. If an individual cannot see these anchor points, you’ll find out that he also can’t see chairs and stoves and other things. I mean, he’ll miss all kinds of items. And sometimes he doesn’t see these, because they are black. The energy has been drained out of them. In other words, he’s agreed that energy can be exhausted and that he uses up energy when he moves - he’s agreed on energy, you know? And he drains down these body anchor points to such a degree that they all go black and they’re not big and gold anymore.

He is all the time saying, "It mustn't happen again, it mustn't happen again" and over on this side on pleasure moments, "It must happen again, it must happen again" and of course he couldn't make either one stick. And in this confused state, you could run out engrams. The actual picture you ran out, however, he made at the instant you ran it out. It was made by an automatic machine. There isn't a person present hasn't an engram if you want to call an engram a piece of Mest. You know, let's call this disk here an engram, see, because it's a mass of energy and so forth. Well, it would drift along in time - now I've changed its position, you see, something that should have changed position, that's all.

Now, the color that they are varies, then, from gold down to black, through green and tarnished and all sorts of other things like that.

All right, let's go a little bit further now. You don't have this engram, if this is an engram, see. It isn't a mass of energy which you would have in your pocket and which would then get out and rub across your face in some fashion or another and destroy. What you would have to do with this, quote, "package of engrams" unquote, would have an ...or an engram, you would have to have an automatic machine that built it all the time and rebuilt it all the time and in the absence of such an automatic machine that kept building it all the time, you wouldn't have one. Can you see that?

Now, a person has completely black anchor points, he is still able to use them. But, after you’ve asked him to mock-up gold anchor points around these black anchor points for a while, what do you know? His anchor points turn gold again. That is, his body’s anchor points turn gold once more.

If you've got a pretty mock up from the year 1860, you've got a pretty mock up from the year 1860, that's all. You'd got it then because you knew you had it. You've had it here because you knew you'd had it again. You follow this closely? You just know you have it - so you have it. But you have to actually, to have substance to it, you'd have to rebuild it again. Now it so happens that a thetan can do this. He can build it again. Now he can go further than this, he can go further than this. He can actually build a piece of Mest and by nailing it into the relation of these particles, have it age and do everything else that these particles do as long as he makes it in relationship to, and in complete agreement with Mest universe particles, it'll go along as a piece of the Mest universe.

Now, a person who can’t see anchor points, if you ask him to mock-up anchor points a few times or unmock them for a while and then mock them up, taking over an unmocking automaticity, and mock them up for a while, why, there sit the anchor points. And there they sit in plain sight and he will see and know whether they are in or out of position.

So, are you making a mock up in your own universe or are you making a mock up in the Mest universe. If you're making a mock up in the Mest universe it'll age and deteriorate and nail down and so forth and you put it down on the corner of the street down here a block away and it's right there, it's on the concrete and there it sits and so forth. Well, you come back a thousand years from now and the concrete might have gone away but that mock up will have aged only to the degree that the imagery which you actually hung up there in connection with Mest energy would have aged. The theor .... the difference here ... now, I'm not talking in contradiction, I'm not talking in contradiction for several reasons. Nobody else agrees very much to your mock up. That's why you have a ... you have no responsibility toward somebody else with regard to your mock up. You can do very much what you please with it and when somebody says they can see them then you get a little bit upset because that limits your ability to (indistinguishable) them.

And when an anchor point is out of position in the jaw, a person has a somatic in the jaw. And when the anchor point is put back into position in the jaw, why, a person doesn’t have a somatic in the jaw and there’s the end to all of his chronic somatics.

If enough people sit around and agree they can see them, it has materialized theoretically. But all this, why? Because you are going on a standing ... from a standpoint of knowingness. You know you communicate. You know there is a difference. You know there is a particle. You know there is a postulate. You know there is your own universe. You know all these things Now we have to establish to line the guy up hale again if just to discover his pattern of agreement. If we discover his pattern of agreement, we also discover his pattern of communication and his feelings of affinity all the way up the line because we have to quote "backtrack" over the agreement in order to undo the problem merely because he has a vested interest in life.

How do you handle this body as a thetan? You vary these anchor points and you move them from one spot to another and that makes the body materialize, muscles move and so forth and then the body moves. And this is the made-up system by which a body moves. It moves via this electronic structure and pattern called anchor points.

No matter how bad off he thinks he is, he still has a vested agreement which he has to keep agreed with to some degree, so you have to be able to chip this off for him, you know kind of break it up at the edges a little bit and straighten it out and restore to him enough fluidity so that he can re-establish his agreements without, at the same time, wiping out his vested interest in the Mest universe. You see that?

You’re going to exteriorize many people - we’re talking about exteriorization right now. Talking about it because - not because we want to repair bodies, so much as you’ll see these things and wonder what they are and wonder why you should know anything about them. Well, it has a lot to do with exteriorization. People who don’t exteriorize have too many anchor points out of position.

And so, we're up against the problem of havingness. We can process a preclear thoroughly by simply making him change his mind and put him back in the same state he was in in the year zero, see, change his mind. The only reason he won't change his mind is because he feels he has a vested interest. You know it's very remarkable. Some fellow starts to commit suicide and he bangs himself up one way or the other and by god, almost uniformly, he's on the verge of death but he's recovering this slightly, you know, and he's gonna die anyway. But why? The Mest universe turns on real bright and he turns on real bright and boy does he wanna live - wheee!

Sometimes an individual will be found to have an anchor point back of his head or something that belongs in his head. It’ll also be in fragments. And he’ll collect the fragments together, finally, and squash them together and put the anchor point back in its proper position in his head and it’ll go kind of click. And then all of a sudden, you say, “Be three feet back of your head” and he’s a Step I.

You've never seen a surge toward life that an individual gets when he really knows he's going to die. It all gets so pretty. It's rather pathetic even without the emergency wards in hospitals in big cities. Watch people brought in who have committed suicide, and you'll see guy after guy after guy after guy. His vested interest is very great, suicide didn't solve it but he thought it would. You know, suicide is occasioned by the fact that people think they only live once. You know, they think they can destroy themselves and they thought this destroying themselves would close terminals with it and then they think they're going to wipe themselves out utterly. In such a way death becomes very convincing to an individual and he forgets his past and he forgets that he's lived before and all that sort of thing and he's lost all his vested interest suddenly, you know.

You can move an individual, then, from Step IV to Step I simply by readjusting the anchor points of the body. And this is done by making him mock-up lots of anchor points inside the body and outside the body, and electronic patterns - in other words, patterns of anchor points.

Everybody in the Mest universe, everybody in this agreed upon plane has agreed at this particular time that when a fellow's dead he no longer owns his possessions, see. In real, you can only go so far in writing a will to dictate what's going to happen to your possessions. The law limits it quite sharply. A freakish will is very easy to undo. You simply say the man exceeded his rights. What's his right. His right is to handle and control his property after death. He doesn't have that right. And so we've agreed on this in all different directions.

Let’s mock-up four and three and two and do other things with these anchor points and move them around and shove them around. And if he can’t get an anchor point back, we have him move an anchor point - mock it up if can’t get back and mock it up and mock it up and mock it up and then move it in a few times and finally he gets the idea. You throw his mock-ups away and move in the actual GE anchor point. And this makes, then, a smooth piece of space inside the body and the person exteriorizes from it easily.

Now I haven't gotten you too far adrift because you will begin to realize, as you sit there after a while, that we're talking about knowingness and we can go on and talk the longest chain and this and that and comparisons in this and that direction that you could possibly think of . I mean you can go on and on and on with this stuff. I mean we could talk for a year, two years, three years of strange comparisons and idiosyncrasies and oddities and tenses and so on and we would get no place because we're talking about something which doesn't have anything more than knowing that it has. If it knows it has, it has. If it knows it doesn't have, it doesn't have. If it knows something exists, it doesn't exist but everyone here has a tremendous responsibility toward everyone else and so we've all agreed mutually upon this and upon that and so forth.

Why doesn’t a person exteriorize from the body? Well, mechanically - mechanically, a low-order answer is his anchor points are out of position so that the body is actually a piece of warped space. Until you’ve adjusted these or he’s adjusted them, nothing’s going to happen with this exteriorization. You see that?

So we take these things apart very gently. That's when we don't run things by brackets, we don't run out former agreements. And when we leave the bracket alone and forget to run things in brackets, why the fellow's case hangs up. Why? because we've hung him up with his agreements with the past and with the people around him as to what he owns and what he doesn't own and of course he doesn't change very much. See this?

Now, if you just took a wire net and you took a lot of little Christmas tree ornaments, like gold balls (large ones and small ones), and you started to hang them around in this three-dimensional net that you have and hang them up in pairs so one side balances the other side, you would get, after you’d hung up a thousand or so, you would get a pretty rough idea of what the electronic system of the body looks like. That’s what it looks like. That’s at optimum - nothing else in between except space. And that space is then occupied by the skin and the bones and so forth, that you see.

Well then when you consider time and the thetan you find out that there's a tremendous communication lag in Mest. We've agreed that there is. A sun explodes and a million years later we see it. Okay? The sun up here explodes and it would take an hour or two - I've forgotten how long it is. Is it three hours, something like that - what is it ? : Eight minutes. : No, eight minutes. - Yeah, eight minutes, that's right. I keep forgetting what system I'm in. Anyway, this sun up here is quite, quite close but it still would take a little while for us to find out. It takes a finite time.

Now, a thetan varies the position of these things and thereby moves the body. That’s the mechanical way of moving the body. He doesn’t have to use that mechanical way of moving the body, by the way, but he does.

All right, now let's see what happens to a thetan who wants to avert an accident at a distance. The reason why you don't believe in distance anymore is because you can't avert an accident at a distance. You've already agreed the Mest universe is here, the distances are so much, and it takes particles so much time to travel from this spot to that and then you see a fellow you know, who is a couple dozen light years away, is about to fall in a well. You see this, using photons ... or ... you know ... I mean ... let's dream up a little space opera here. Now, you've got a televised screen in front of you - you know, televisio and you see that another ship in the fleet is about to crash, something of the sort, and your brother is on that ship. And boy, right away you say, "The hell with this" and you simply appear or materialize in that area and put enough beams on that ship to cushion its fall. Now that would be all very well ... you actually have it in your power to do that. You can change particles and suddenly shift agreements like mad but you'd be too late. By the time you put a beam on the ship it would have crashed and so it would look to you that by putting a beam on the ship it crashed. It would look to you like you were assisting an accident.

All right, what’s our problem, then, Mr. Anthony? Our problem is aberration on the part of the preclear. This means nonstraight lines. Well, you just turn that around and say it’s nonstraight anchor points on exteriorization and you’ve got it.

Well, do you know what sound does? Sound travels at eleven hundred feet per second. The bullet of a modern rifle reaches you a long time before the report of a gun. Eleven hundred feet per second the bullet of a modern rifle at least twenty-eight hundred feet per second, that's a military rifle, and so it takes a long time for the report to reach you, the bullet got there in a hurry and after you're shot and you're already falling, why you hear the gun go. Different communication speeds - communication - communication by sound, communication by bullet. Well, you actually have no communication speed between your being standing there ready to be shot and there's no communication lag between the moment the trigger's pulled clock-wise and you're standing there clock-wise. Now, if your level of knowingness was very good, you would know when the trigger was going to be pulled. You see, there's no difference between those two things clock-wise. You could actually be over there and be back of the gun faster than the bullet could travel from the gun to you. Now, the funny part of it is that you could know when the trigger was being pulled and duck. In other words, it would take a while for the particle to get to you and you wouldn't be there any more and there you'd dive and therefore you get the unkillable soldier. He knows which direction what's going.

A very curious affair, these anchor points, but it only comes about that these anchor points become deranged when a person believes he has to depend upon food and the body for his energy. A thetan is as well off as he can create energy, he’s no better off. And when he ceases to create energy and begins to depend upon (quote) “old deposits of energy” (which is a big joke, they aren’t there either) - when he begins to depend on these (quote) “old deposits of energy” (unquote) why, then he has to set up terminal systems so that he gets energy going from one point to another point and back and forth again, so as to energize things and so on. He does this because he gets scarce bn attention.

Communication lag - going to present time in the Mest universe is going to baffle some of you so pick up your ears. We're not talking past tenses and future tenses now - there is present time. If you stopped all the particles throughout this universe at the same instant and then inspected all of them you would find that every single one of them was in the present time that you stopped them in. You see that? You stopped all the particles in the universe and then inspected them, you'd find out where they all were at this instant that you stopped them. Now, let's stop them at present time instant. Therefore it's present time all over the universe at the same unit instant. So you'd just stop all particles and you'd look at them and there's present time.

Every once in a while, he’ll set up a terminal and it won’t run unless he puts his attention on it. See? Well, as long as he does that, then he starts to set up terminal systems and he sets these up in such a way that he’s setting up batteries. So he’ll set up a big mass of energy in front of the body, up against his face, the big mass of energy up against the back of the body and these two masses of energy will discharge, one against the other, and the body will use this energy. He might as well be creating it himself because he is creating it any way. He’s having to mock and unmock those masses of energy before the body can use it. All right. So we have the problem of terminals as the second problem that comes in and it is right there with anchor points.

All right! A person gets confused about present time simply because of this: - a star explodes and a million years later he sees it. He isn't stopping all particles or he isn't looking at all particles simultaneously. He is looking at the particles and the communication lag because it's going to take the particles from the exploding sun that long to reach him. You see this? The particles are going to take time to get to him.

An individual, then, will start to use up the native energy in the GE anchor points. That is to say, he will use up the energy from the machine he’s putting energy into, to get these anchor points to burn up, so as the body will run on its own energy.

Well now, if he depends upon Mest for all his communications he isn't going to know about the exploding sun until a million or two years have gone by that took the light to reach him. But if his level of knowingness is great enough so he can be anywhere in the universe if he wants to be in the same instant then enters the greatest of ease. He knows the sun explodes at the moment it explodes.

Did you ever see anybody or did you yourself ever suddenly decide, “Well, somebody else is going to do some work too!” Well, a thetan sort of does this. He says, “Well, damn body, it’s going to do some work too.” And he’ll set it up after that - he won’t feed it enough energy to run and the next thing you know; why, it will start eating up its own anchor points. It makes a battery out of them, because they’re masses of energy.

And so again, we get communication time lag because it's communication time lag then consists of time itself, the length of time or the distances it takes for particles to travel through Mest. The more an individual agrees with Mest, which is to say the more he depends upon Mest the greater time lag he himself has and the less ability he has to know. Therefore agreement with Mest is very poor. Once you depended on Mest to bring you all your messages and you depended on it to do everything, why it gets very bad.

All right. When we get a problem of this kind, the thetan also has another problem: he has the problem of masses. And when we say “terminal,” we mean any end of a communication line. Now, we don’t mean that it’s even in good condition. And we don’t mean that it’s naturally in its right place. And we don’t mean that it’s mobile and we don’t mean that it’s fixed. But we prefer it fixed in a place and you think of a terminal as something that is more or less fixed. You just think of it like that, but a terminal can still be a terminal after it’s been uprooted. The intention behind a terminal is to be fixed. But it doesn’t cease to be a terminal just because it’s unfixed. You get the idea?

Now, there is a test on this. You can do this with a preclear with ease. You can have him mock up this room as this room, and then mock up this room as this room, then mock up this room as this room, and mock up this room as this room, and mock up this room as this room, and keep that up for several hours. Just a duplication of this room at the instant that the room is in, you know, and never let him vary a factor about the room and insist that he duplicates this room exactly and so forth. We find out that the therapy in an interesting fete that would go up and he would get interested in it from the standpoint of duplication and then after a little while it would begin to fall off and then all of a sudden you'd find it pretty flat. Why? You forced him to agree with Mest.

All right. Now this terminal problem is a problem of energy exchanges. And if you were to set up two galvanic batteries of some sort or another and get energy flowing from one to the other, back and forth, then you would have a supply of energy. And the thetan who agrees with MEST thoroughly and has agreed with terminals and agreed with energy at large, sets up these batteries. And back and forth it flows and he isn’t putting any energy into it - he thinks. He, of course, has to hand energy out the back door to make this system work at all, but he’s looking there at the front door and finding everything is going along and that he’s using up energy.

Now let's make him duplicate this room and then duplicate this room with calico walls and then duplicate this room a little bit bigger and then duplicate it a little bit smaller. Now make him duplicate it a little bit bigger than his own concept of this room and a little bit smaller than the concept he had of this room and then, and then duplicate this room in the year 1770 and then duplicate this room this way and duplicate it that way - and that is to say, make him set up the room and then get a duplicate of it. He can set up the room with calico walls and then make him get a duplicate of this room with calico walls. You keep on doing this and the next thing you know his perception is going way up. Why? Because you're breaking him away from agreeing with Mest and it is agreement with Mest which gave him the communication lag and gave him the idea he could only be in one place at one time.

So we have him dependent upon terminals. And we get this entire field, then, opens up to us dependency. There’s conviction as a high-order datum. Now, let’s get another high-order datum, right there with conviction: dependency. Because dependency ensues after conviction.

How does a thetan duplicate, himself. Everyone of you has the ability of granting beingness to another point of space which is you and then knowing in that point of space. Every one of you has this and this in essence would be the duplication of your own personality. Now you could do this well enough so that other points of space ... while you stood right where you were, it would really be a scarcity of your attention that inhibited you from doing this, you could stand right here in this room and duplicate yourself in a point of space over at the Westward-Ho and while you were still here fully knowing, you could be in the Westward-Ho fully knowing, see.

If you can convince somebody something exists, after that to some slight degree he will depend on it. And then, his dependency on it becomes greater and greater, at which time when his dependency is greatest, it will disappear. And that is a rule of this universe! Materialization of something succeeds or occurs after conviction. When one is convinced there is an isness, the next step is to depend on it. And the next step is for the thing to disappear.

Therefore, sending somebody around in change of space does not send in a unit dot of something to here or there but is making a person know he is over another pattern of particles. Now, we get the shifting of location is in itself communication so you have quote, "Mest" communicate to you continuously. Well, that makes you have to duplicate Mest in order to receive a communication of the Mest and if an individual thinks there's danger in duplicating this communication, in being this communication, he resists while he eventually plows in and obsessively becomes it, see. He begins obsessively to communicate with Mest.

Because the moment a thetan says, “I’m not causing this,” he runs into the zero - there isn’t anything else to cause it So of course, it disappears the moment he says, “Well, I’m depending on that now, it’s cause.” And the moment he says, “It’s cause,” the thing unmocks. But this goes on a nice sliding scale, it’s very gradual and he doesn’t immediately observe this.

So, he sees a, he sees a picture on the wall and he will have a flat feeling on his head, very flat feeling. It's the picture on the wall and you want to know what the strange GE somatics are. They are quite often nearly in the field of mesmerism. The GE is mesmerized by Mest. He's hit it too long and he's no longer able to maintain his own identity well enough so he just duplicates Mest obsessively. He doesn't like it - he fights it - and Mest is not something he wants anything to do with and as a consequence the funny feeling he's got on his face is the picture on the wall or the chalky feeling in the rock or something.

Now, what’s that order again? That’s an important order. That’s your DEI Scale and that’s your cycle-of-action and that’s everything else along this same line. So you could say there’s a parallel curve to this cycle-of-action curve of the MEST universe, of birth, growth, so forth.

Somebody who's kind of bad off can be walking along the street or something and then feel a little bit bad and then they'll attribute it to the past or something they ate or something of the sort where as a matter of fact with a rotten fish hanging out some place. They just duplicated it and ... it's, it's quite amusing to you as an auditor when you're auditing somatics or ill health you have many choices of eradication of a somatic. First there's to eradicate, of course, obsessive duplication and the part of the body - that's first and that's done in several ways but the next one is just an auditing. You see somebody in a service station and he doesn't feel very good. He hasn't been well lately and so forth and you have immediately another choice - what's he duplicating around the service station. That's his immediate environment. Well, how do you solve this? You just tell him to look at it, that's all. You make him look at it and as soon as he really starts looking at it he is duplicating by consent. Now as soon as he duplicates by consent he isn't duplicating by fighting, so by duplicating by consent he then stops obsessively duplicating and merely starts to consciously duplicate. In other words, you cut out the automaticity of obsessive duplication.

The thetan creates Something by being convinced that it exists and then, having become convinced that it exists, he depends upon it. And while depending upon it, he is gradually causing less and less himself, until at the end he’s causing nothing - he’s total dependency - at which moment, of course, the thing unmocks and disappears. And that is the parallel curve to the cycle-of-action of the MEST universe. And it goes: conviction, dependency, unmocked. See that? Conviction, dependency, unmocked.

Here we get automaticity of communication. An obsessive duplication would be an automaticity. It would be something without his consent. Something that would go on operating hour after hour, day after day, he would be doing this all the time.

So any time an electronics man starts depending upon these batteries and all this nonsense around and so forth, why, he starts getting worse off and worse off and worse off. Actually, he gets as bad off as he depends upon the MEST universe to furnish energy for all the automatic things on which he’s depending.

Now let's, let's get it over to the point where we're getting into consent to be the point B on our communication line. See, we're getting into consent to be the receipt point and we make him intentionally become the receipt point and we have done just what I said yesterday - we said, "All right, now look, when we ... whenever a preclear has something strange happen, make him do it again" and the item will fall under his control and the second it goes under his control he of course is no longer plagued with this automaticity because he put it there in the first place so you make him take it over again. You make him knock out the separateness of it and the forgetter mechanism in it by making him do it.

Now, you never found an electronics engineer in your life who wasn’t using an awful lot of electronic gadgets in his living. They always do. And they get things “pat-er” and “pat-er” and squared around and squared around and they cease - a little less livingness and a little less livingness in them and a little less livingness until at last, why, they’re practically gone. Then they kick the bucket and that’s that. They don’t live as long, by the way. And they also feel kind of degraded.

So, if this man is obsessively duplicating then let's run this sort of a task on him. Let's just simply, without going into anything that looks to him like necromancy, which like ... all right, now get your body ... make your body stand there like a gas pump. would be out for him, now make it stand there like a water bucket, now make the inside of it feel like a water bucket, see, now make it feel like an air hose and so on and we could do this until all of a sudden he found one that was very nerve wracking to him and then we just make him be that by choice one way or the other and all of a sudden that automaticity keyed out and he'd feel all right. But that's an extreme thing, you see. That would look too much like necromancy to him. He wasn't particularly indoctrinated into this, he thinks you were playing tricks on him or something.

Now, you think I’m beating these people to pieces as a class. I am not. I’m just using them as the extreme example of what happens. It’s the only example we have of the extremity here on Earth. The number of these boys that are sane, I can count on the arms of an armless wonder. I know lots of them. Lots of them are friends of mine - they’re nuts.

So, you would tell him, actually though, just look around now. We start with looking around. Of course he's ... he is now, with his consent, being receipt point. You ask him to actually look at the service pump, you ask him to look at the air hose, you ask him to look at the water bucket, you ask him to look at that, and you proceed to ask him to what does he contribute his cause or anything that would put his attention on the cause of his trouble. Is there anything around here you don't like, is a good way to go about it. You make him look at this, "What is there about the gas pump you don't like exactly?" "Oh, I don't know..." He never noticed before it has handles. (mumble) But in order to look at something he has to duplicate it with his consent. And so it will feed out his automaticity before he's looked around very long why the automaticity of obsessive duplication of some object, which he despises, in the vicinity ceases. See, that present time problem is solved.

They hold their heads up and the only thing that really balances them is the creative impulse. They keep creating. They keep creating. And they run this cycle at a short span. As soon as they’ve really created something, they know they’ve really created and now they’ll depend on it completely, they go like a puff of smoke. It’s the fastest deteriorization you ever looked at.

Now, automaticity can be keyed out by making a person be cause - there's automaticity by perception - make the person be cause, or at the cause, or A point of the line. Well now, the way you do that is, "All right, get a mock up of the gas pump." This is all of creative processing, see. And the other one is, be receipt point. Be perfectly at ease about receiving something.

A fellow by the name of Wiener, for instance. (If you could know some of these people, this would actually have punches in it, because Wiener has glasses there that are at least a half an inch thick - no exaggeration - I mean, his eyes are just huge. He walks around with his nose way up, tilted way up in the air like this. And his body is practically planetary in shape. And he has a terrible time. Life is just gruesome to this poor guy.) Well, he did all right up to the time when he did cybernetics and then he - when he did cybernetics, he’d done it! He’d had it then. And man, he hit that old toboggan slide like mad. And this is an example of a tremendously able thetan who, this life anyway, has gotten into an almost totality of agreement with the MEST universe and he stops functioning because the machine on which he’s depending then begins to boss him around and then it disappears or unmocks, it ceases to exist to some degree.

Well now, you find many people have, have problems against being the receipt point and have obsessively put themselves into a situation of being cause. In order to keep from being receipt point, the fellow says, "I'm going to be Cause, - I'm gonna be cause, I'm gonna be cause, I'm gonna be cause, I'm gonna be cause and therefore I don't have to be a receipt point." Well of course, the communication line has two ends and this fellow nailed himself down in his head like he had spikes in it because he is at the cause point and he won't go around to the receipt point. If he won't go around to the receipt point then every automatic machine he has which duplicates goes into completely random action and becomes his enemy. Every automatic machine he has then becomes his randomity and boy, the weirdest, strangest, most horrible things happen. Why, of course everything is inexplicable because in the automatic machine he has at point B - not at point B - but any automatic machine he has which duplicates in any way as a receipt point of course goes into full operation as his randomity. So just exactly fifty percent of his basic communication set up goes into action against him. He'll only be cause point, he'll only be cause point, he'll only be cause point.

So you see what an automaticity does? This is also the curve of automaticity. Conviction - you convince yourself you have the machine, then you depend upon the machine and then the machine is cause to you as it persists. And then at length, of course, it finishes up by unmocking you. And that’s the way it goes. And the people who are having real trouble with automaticity are having trouble with the “unmockers” - automatic machinery that they have installed to unmock things.

All right, now what do we do with this Fellow? Well, we just make him look around. If he can do that, "just identify what in the environment is your exact trouble", you know. All we're doing is making him duplicate with his ch... with his consent. We're taking, at least, sight over. Now if you're harder to take sound over because you don't get sounds occurring at the ... you don't get sounds ... random sounds occurring at the request of the auditor but you do get random sights occurring at the request of the auditor - pretty much, I mean, all sights of objects and so forth.

I have run into this one in a preclear, “If I ever get caught in a body again, why, I’ll set up this machinery and this machinery and if I ever get caught in a body again or ever get caught in a theta trap, this machine will now unmock the theta trap.” And oh, we start mocking this fellow up and you get him to mock things up, he can’t mock anything up. You say, “Mock-up a body,” it disappears. “Mock-up a body,” it disappears. I mean, he can’t even get it up before it’s gone. And we fool around with this and fool around with this until, gee, it becomes obviously apparent he hasn’t got a body. And it’s sort of not there, it’s missing and yet he’s resisting something which is about to make it into a complete zero. And he knows something is about to destroy it and he can’t tell you what is going to destroy it, but he knows something is. It’s either going to be Western Union or the US Government or somebody is going to destroy this body. And he gets real spooky about it, one way or the other.

So sound is a little harder to process and for that reason most auditors leave it alone and leave the case hang up on it. They leave the case hung up on sound. They'll try to run back track, in other words, to get sound, "Well let's see, let's get the time you were listening to the symphony - now be the symphony". Of course the only way a guy can ever listen to a symphony is to be the symphony. The only way you can ever receive any communication is to be that thing which is communicating to you. That's duplication.

Well, if you start to run him on - I have just one example here. I ran this fellow on... “All right,” I said, “Now make the postulate ‘Any time I get into trouble, I’m going to unmock the body I am in and disappear.’”

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Well, that wasn’t quite it. It was “Any time I get into a body or a trap, this machine will make it disappear.” And that was the exact postulate of the machinery. And it was holding an energy charge which exploded in front of his face the second that it was triggered - a big energy charge, pow, you know? Kind of made his hair stand up and his eyebrows flicker and made him duck back and it was an audible explosion, in other words. You know, pow!

Now, that’s a very interesting thing, isn’t it? He set this thing up. Where was this man’s energy going? It was going surreptitiously by bypass circuits all around Robin Hood’s barn and coming back in the front of his face and was charging up a machine which was just above his head.

The modus operandi of the machine exactly was that it was going to drop an electronic beam with such speed, down across the front of the body, that it was going to take the face off. And that of course would be the end of the body and it was just going to chew up any trap he got into. Oh, this was real gorgeous, that Man was the victim of that machine, but it was his machine. The case entirely changed its complexion after this was audited and this only required about three or four minutes to audit. The case entirely changed.

With that much charge sitting up in front of his face, he, of course, couldn’t keep any GE anchor point anywhere in position, they were all out of position. And any time he could see one or try to put it back in position or something like that, it would just go slap someplace else. There was too much charge sitting around. In other words, all this man’s creativeness was being fed into a machine which would uncreate. And that is the normal course of automaticity.

The thetan’s creativeness never decreases, it is fed into machinery which he no longer owns or has any responsibility for. The energy potential is always there, but it’s going someplace else that he’s lost control of. You give him control of his own energy potential and you’ll have a lightning bolt on your hands, like a breeze.

But how do you do this? You do it by taking control of the individual’s machinery. People who can’t get out of their body have gone into a quarrel with the body, which is, put around some energy charge around the body, which has warped the GE anchor points, which then make it impossible for them to get out of the space, because the space is now the wrong space. You can just put it down like that as a cycle-of-action - you’ve got automaticity now tied up with charge and machines and so on.

Now, communication works this way: It has two terminals, and communication is just the same in an electric motor as it is spoken. The same theory we’re using. In other words, it is an impulse that goes from A and goes to B. See, now no matter how fast it does it or how many times it comes back, we have fulfilled our definition of communication. Communication is a sense or a particle traveling from A to B. We don’t even care how crooked or straight the line is, it just goes between two points.

Now, you’ve got a system. A communication system can have lots of relays in it. It goes from A, to A' (prime), to A", to A'", to A"", to B"", to B'", to B", to B', to B. Each one of those could be a Western Union relay station or it could be a person you gave a message to, to give to somebody else.

Now, people just won’t duplicate worth a nickel. They don’t like duplication, they have Superstitions about it on the Second Dynamic, they have an awful lot of morals about it. And we have a whole category here in duplication, as we look it over, it’s the willingness or unwillingness to duplicate which makes a person able or unable to reproduce his own kind.

Now, let’s take a line of soldiers, we’ll give to the first soldier the message: “The zero hour is midnight” and whisper it to him. And he turns around and he whispers it to the second soldier and this soldier whispers it to the next soldier and we get down at the Other end of the line. By the time it’s gone through about thirty soldiers, the odd part of it is that the message which will come out at the other end is almost uniformly completely different. It’s something on the order of “The captain wants his horse.” Yet, if that were a perfect communication line, “The zero hour is midnight” would have emerged at the other end. But every one of those persons would have had to have been in good condition. If they’d been in real good condition, they simply would have passed it down the line.

Now, if they’d been complete slaves and hypnotized, it would have come out at the other end of the line much more distorted.

That’s an interesting point. So everybody tries to escape aberration by fighting duplication. You know, “Don’t act crazy like the little boy down your street.” Or did your mother ever say, “Don’t ever start talking like that little boy, now, or your speech will get all upset.” And “Don’t you start acting like that tough little fellow.” That was a sure way of sooner or later making you into a tough little fellow - telling you what to resist.

All right. Now, if you’d been good at taking direction from your mother and you weren’t resisting your mother’s command, you could have done that with great ease. That could have been done with great ease, your duplication could have been done with great ease.

You see, you had to resist your mother’s command of “not be like the little boy down the street,” in order to turn around and compulsively try to be like the little boy down the street. In other words, here’s duplication in terms of orders. A thetan gets his randomity by refusing to duplicate. He’ll get his sanity back by restoring his ability to duplicate. That’s all there is to it. You never saw in your life a person aberrated, for instance, on duplication on the Second Dynamic. You never saw a person aberrated on the Second Dynamic who had no suppression on the Second Dynamic.

For instance, you could go out and look in vain in the animal kingdom - which has very little suppression on the Second Dynamic - for real nuttiness on the Second Dynamic; neither would you find them obsessively trying to duplicate. You know, they don’t go mad on the subject, you don’t get your compulsive reactions, obsessive reactions. If you’ll just take some animal, however, and make it very, very, very difficult for him to duplicate sexually, you after a while will have created a satyr or some other type of sexual aberration in the animal. You follow that?

Well, let’s take that right up on the line there, let’s take it on up to groups. Now, if you’re obsessively trying not to be a Rosicrucian and so forth or if you’re obsessively trying not to be the Roman Catholic Church or something, you’ll find yourself sliding little by little, step by step into being the Roman Catholic Church, because you didn’t want to be it and the last dregs of your skid will be hopeless indeed. Oh, you just go real mad on this.

Now, let’s take it on the subject of the Sixth Dynamic, the MEST universe, and let’s get a fellow resisting being or agreeing with the MEST universe. He won’t duplicate it, of course, and the more he tries not to duplicate it, the more obsessively he duplicates it until he couldn’t stand up and face a stove without being a stove. Now he’s set up a machine which makes it impossible for him to duplicate something. In essence, he’s set it up as an automaticity “I will not duplicate” and, of course, sooner or later the machine will turn around and butcher him up enough to a point where he obsessively duplicates. That’s just on this same curve I was talking to you about, conviction and so on, as we go right straight down the line.

Now, that point might have escaped you a little bit: how a machine set up to do something automatically, eventually winds up by doing the opposite. No, it doesn’t wind up by doing the opposite, it winds up as your randomity and then you realize something is forcing you to do something and you, actually, will be sensible enough to try somehow or another to key-out the machine by doing it in present time in the MEST universe. In other words, you try to dramatize the machine out of existence. And this is the only therapy the thetan has had - dramatization.

Things don’t work out well in the MEST universe though, they just don’t work out well. They don’t undramatize.

For instance, a fellow has a compulsion to kill his wife and he kills her. And by golly, it doesn’t get rid of the compulsion. In fact, they gas chamber him or something. The MEST universe is dead set on no duplication - scarcity is its motto. And yet at the same time, by all the waves that come in beating you, you’d think, by golly, it was set on duplication. It’s telling you all the time, “Be me, be me, be me - don’t be anybody else - be me.” And there, you’re caught on a 360-degree sphere - it’s coming in from every side.

Now, let’s talk about that for a moment. A thetan is being bombarded as soon as he gets into his idea about flows, as soon as he’s completely sold on flows, he thereafter is bombarded on a 360-degree sphere. Up to the time where he doesn’t pay any attention to, or monkey with the wavelength of, or trouble with flows to amount to anything, why, he’s perfectly free. If there’s anything there, it would go through him anyhow and he doesn’t worry about it. But the second he begins to resist these flows - agree that they exist - is to resist. Why? Because they reduce his size. They pound him into one spot and they make him smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller, he thinks. Well, that’s the phenomenon of flow. And it comes in from 360 degrees. It doesn’t go much the other way except by reflection - it hits something he has and it reverses and goes the opposite direction.

So people will get an incoming flow and then try to stop it as it leaves. They don’t want people to see them. For instance, sunlight hits them, that shoves an image of them at somebody else, they’ll try to stop this image going. Well, they’re actually trying to keep the image from coming in. But they don’t pay any attention to it and don’t try to stop those photons until they’ve bounced, because they’re already into a communication lag. It causes inversion. After a while, this person tries to push something away and the thing comes to him in a mock-up - everything gets reversed. That’s an inversion.

Do you see how this would be? A fellow gets hit with a bullet and then doesn’t let the bullet fly away from him. Simply because he’s holding the bullet from coming in, he holds the bullet from going out. See that? The essence of it is, he’s holding. And it becomes immediately clear. What’s he doing? He’s holding.

Well, as soon as a fellow tries to keep waves from hitting him or destructive things from hitting him, he’s holding. And as soon as he’s holding, he begins to build up all sorts of things. He makes them up so he can build them up.

Now, what have we got here? A little problem, it doesn’t amount to very much. It has to do with agreement to the MEST universe, agreement On flows, agreement on photons and all that sort of thing. That’s why we say, with truth, “Where are you яо/?” in positioning in the MEST universe. The other isn’t true, “Where are you?” It only apparently becomes true because the MEST universe itself has dichotomies, see? So we ask the fellow “Where are you not?” Of course, the answer is he’s noplace in the MEST universe and he’ll eventually just run that out. And if you kept this up long enough, he’d realize.

Just like you say, “Give me three people you are not.” Well, if you ask this in brackets, “Three people somebody else is not” and so on. And “Three people that somebody else knows somebody else is not,” why, we’d go around and round on this in brackets, the next darn thing you know, why, we’d have a very interesting condition: the fellow would also know he wasn’t his own body. But we wouldn’t have had to have even vaguely intimated to this person that he could exteriorize.

Now, how long we have to keep up this technique in order to do it? Well, I don’t know, but it’s an hours and hours and hours proposition. It’s not ten minutes or fifteen minutes. It’s a long process.

Most every one of the steps of SOP 8-C are themselves a totality. You know, if you just did them, if you did that step and you did it long enough, it would do the job. And the reason we have that number of steps is to try to hit the present time problem. And I’m going to say something very briefly on the present time problem, very briefly indeed.

And that is to say, there’s hardly a preclear around who doesn’t have a present time problem and until that present time problem is solved, their attention is not free enough to process anything else. Their attention is all bound up on a present time problem and you are trying to process them in some other direction. And unless you do something about the present time problem with Creative Processing or mock-ups or duplication, or unmocking or creating automaticities and uncreating them (doing something about this present time problem, in other words), their attention doesn’t free. And that’s usually the case with the preclear.

And where an auditor misses the boat is he doesn’t realize the preclear is a living being and he doesn’t start right in, right at the beginning, and solve the preclear as a specialized stack of phenomena. The preclear is a specialized stack of phenomena and there’s one of them lying on top. And you want to solve a case real easy - you’ll do it eventually - but if you want to solve a case very easily, what you do is pick the one off the top and then you pick the next one off of that and so on.

Another remark I’d like to make to you is “that which is validated comes true.” If you will validate something too long or too often, why, it has itself, then, a sort of a truth. If you keep validating walls or validating corners without ever running unmocking barriers, the guy will first get better and better and then he’ll tip off the edge and get kind of worse and worse. What you missed there was the nothingness side of the somethingness. So let’s not validate barriers without invalidating barriers. Let’s not validate problems without invalidating problems and let’s run a matched balance on the case in that fashion. And I don’t want that one to escape you.

If you were to ask somebody to stand over against that wall for a year, pushing against it, he would decide at the end of the year that he could do nothing else. You’ve validated the wall. Boy, would he be sure that wall is there. It very often happens that you have to make a preclear sure the wall is there.

And one more thing, certainty is still the keynote. If your preclear is being processed and isn’t certain of any of the things he’s saying or anything else, he’s not going to get anyplace and he’s not going to change.

And one more thing, remember the guy’s name. He is being this symbol. Move it around, move it around, mock that name up and move it around until it’s meaningless.

That’s the best process with which to handle it. He’s being a symbol and very often this symbol itself is the clue to his case. It’s the one symbol that’s been with him the longest and oftenest. He’s trying to be his name.

Okay?