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1956 КОНГРЕСС ИГР

DEMONSTRATION OF SCS

ГРУППОВОЙ ПРОЦЕССИНГ: «УДЕРЖИТЕ В НЕПОДВИЖНОСТИ МАМУ И ПАПУ» (ПРОДОЛЖЕНИЕ)

An auditing demonstration given on 2 September 1956
Сессия группового процессинга, проведенная 2 сентября 1956 года

Thank you very much.

You've had some announcements and the third day of the congress draws to a close. I've been practicing that way of speaking. The third day of the congress draws to a close. The Committee on Future Programs, Scientology material will be made known to you tomorrow. They have been, I hope, very productive, and I hope they'll be more productive this evening.

All right. Now, let's look over here.

But one of the things about Scientology is that its future programs are being lived through right now. One of the very interesting points is the amount of future that was mocked up in 1950 that actually materialized.

Хорошо. Посмотрите вот сюда.

Well, I haven't anything to talk to you about. As a matter of fact, that's why I'm filling in with platitudes. And you just think it's a gag right now that I don't have anything to talk to you about but it's an absolute fact. I haven't got a thing. Told you all there is to know about havingness. Told you all there is to know about games. You're getting all there is to know about indoctrination — ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

You know, when the — when the people take this ACC that's starting on October the 15th, they will have had to have been through HCA indoctrination. I hope that they will have made that a fact by that time, because in the ACC we run an Indoctrination Course right along with the course.

We have what's known as High School Indoctrination. First thing you do in High School Indoctrination is you take the auditor all apart and throw the parts around. Leave him nothing to think with and make him reassemble them. First thing we do is ruin all of his early auditing ability. We ruin him — finish him. Done. Isn't that a terrible thing? It's a terrible thing.

Audience: Okay. All right.

The only reason we do a thing like that actually is because in the old days a fellow used to learn how to fly and he'd fly with one wing just a little bit low. He learned how to fly that way. Felt natural on the seat of his pants! And he'd eventually get an airline job and ... No, we want nothing but good auditors in that unit, but it's a fact that there is such a thing as High School Indoctrination.

Аудитория: Да. Хорошо.

There is also some other material that we might by that time have sufficiently well organized to part with. But I've actually given you right now all there is to know. There's hardly anything else I have to cover now. Actually, it's the truth. I mean, I haven't another thing to tell you. Let's see, who looks restimulated here? Who looks restimulated? I'm going to show you how to audit. Okay?

Audience: Yes!

This is rough. I want a volunteer.

Now, somewhere or another you've gotten the idea that that's Mama. That's women!

Audience: Oh! Oh!

Темилиинымобразомвыпришлик убеждению, что это мама. Это женщины!

Male voice: Looks like you got one.

You're not going to volunteer?

Good boy. Thank you Carl, I thought you would. That would be terrific. Carl, one of the reasons why I was going to give you a little session here, was because I knew it wouldn't be restimulative to you.

And somehow – somehow you have gotten the idea that's Papa. Nah-uh-uh- men! Men.

Male voice: Thank you.

И тем или иным образом вы пришли к убеждению, что это папа. Не-а – мужчины! Мужчины.

Actually, only a military man can appreciate this particular process that I'm going to show you this evening. You want to really see a process, now, huh?

Audience: Yeah, sure.

You want to see a process that is as modern as 1958, huh?

All right. Now, look at her – look at her.

Audience: Yes.

Ну хорошо. Посмотрите на нее... посмотрите на нее.

All right. This is a mild version of rougher processes, but I'm going to show you a process known as SCS — Start, Change and Stop. Okay?

Audience: Okay. Good.

Now, what I'm going to do — what I'm going to do here is from — in about two seconds, just ignore the audience entirely. And I'm simply going to give him a very serious little session on SCS. Okay?

She epitomizes. She does. She does.

Audience: Okay.

She epitomizes. She does!

I'm not going to audit him very long on it since it would start to be restimulative after a little while. But we will just show you how this is done. Okay?

Онаолицетворяетвсехженщин.Правда. Правда. Она их олицетворяет. Правда!

Audience: Okay.

LRH: All right. How are you, Carl?

PC: Fine.

Itisn'tgenerallyknown,buthe epitomizes too.

LRH: Good. Carl, there's a little process hero that is a drill.

И хотя мало кто об этом знает, но он олицетворяет всех мужчин.

PC:Yes, Sir.

LRH: It's a drill. All right. Okay. And you don't mind us doing a little bit of auditing here, huh?

PC: Not a bit, no. Not at all.

All right. Now, look at her.

LRH: Good. Good. Well, I hate to ask you if you've got an auditing room.

Ну хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

PC: Boy, I've got a big one. Lots of space.

LRH: All right. And you've got an auditor?

PC: I do.

Audience: Okay. Yeah.

LRH: Have I got a preclear?

Аудитория: Ага. Ладно.

PC: You do.

LRH: Well, very, very good. This little practice here is supposed to work over body control. That is, to put the preclear into better control of his body. And it consists of a little drill, actually three little drills, that are very simple. But all it consists of is I am going to ask you to start the body, you see?

PC: Right.

That's women – women. Got that?

LRH: I'm going to ask you to start the body and you just start it. When I ask you to start the body, why you start it, okay?

Это женщины... женщины. Это ясно?

PC:Got it.

LRH: And then there we are.

PC: Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: But I'm not going to ask you, by the way, to stop it, slow it down or anything. After you've started the body, why, I will tell you, "Very well."

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Okay.

LRH: And then we'll practice that again. All right. Is that a session?

PC:Yes, it is.

That's all the dames you ever knew, see?

LRH: All right. Okay.

Это все дамы, которых вы когда-либо знали, понимаете?

PC: Sounds fine.

LRH: Fine. How about you standing right there now.

Okay. Start the body.

Audience: Yeah.

Good. Good. That's fine. That's fine.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Did you start the body?

PC: I did.

Got that now? Women?

LRH: You did?

Теперь понятно? Женщины.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Well that's very, very good. Very good. Now, once more I'm going to ask you to start the body and when I tell you "Start the body," you start the body. All right?

Okay. Now, start the body.

Audience: Yeah. Okay.

Good. Good. That's very, very good. That's very good. Did you start the body?

Аудитория: Ага. Да.

PC: I've got some doubts.

LRH: Okay. Well, we're getting somewhere. All right. Stand right there now, and when I ask you to start the body, why, you start the body. All right?

Okay. Start the body.

All the dames you ever knew. Got that?

All right, that's fine. That's fine. Did you start the body?

Все дамы, которых вы когда-либо знали. Это

PC: As far as that particular set of actions isconcerned, I started the body, yes.

LRH: What's the reservation on, anything in particular?

PC: Start with connection of time of getting the body here and so forth.

LRH: I see.

PC: As far as the time from your command on, I started the body into the actions that were visible and were different from those that took place before.

ясно?

LRH: All right. Then you did start the body?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Did — in that degree you did?

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Right. I'm .. .

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: All right. That's all right. That's fine. That's fine.

PC: . . . fine on that. Okay.

LRH: That's fine. All right. Now. Now once more, when I ask you to start the body, why, you start the body, okay?

And over here, this other dummy – this other sad sack, that's all the men you ever knew, right?

PC: Okay.

А вот этот, второй болван... этот недотепа – это все мужчины, которых вы когда-либо знали, так?

LRH: All right. Start the body.

PC: All right.

LRH: Okay, that's fine. Did you start the body?

Audience: Yeah. Right.

PC: I did.

Аудитория: Ага. Так.

LRH: You did. All right. Apparent to me that you did.

PC: Fine.

LRH: All right. Good.

See, he's darn near a group. Alright, you got him – you got him reidentified now – you got him placed? You got him placed?

PC:Good. I like this agreement.

Видите, он очень близко к группе. Вы... вы заново установили его идентность... вы установили его местоположение? Вы установили его местоположение?

LRH: Okay. I didn't have a thing to do with it.

PC: No.

LRH: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, once more, once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to start the body, and you start the body.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Okay, start the body.

PC: All right.

You girls have got him placed?

LRH: Good. Well, how was that?

Вы,девушки,установилиего местоположение?

PC: Good, frankly.

LRH: Is that better?

PC: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Well, all right, you started the body.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: I did.

Okay. Now, look at her – look at her now.

LRH: Is that a little bit better than it was?

Хорошо.Теперьпосмотритенанее... посмотрите теперь на нее.

PC: Mm-mm.

LRH: Well, okay. All right. Now, once more, I'm going to ask you to start the body and you start the body. All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Yeah.

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Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Okay. Start the body.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Good. Did you start the body?

That's women. Is that women?

PC: Yeah, I did.

Это женщины. Это женщины?

LRH: All right. Well that's fine. That'll do for a demonstration a little bit. Be all right with you if we just level it off at that point?

PC: Yeah. That's fine.

LRH: Huh? And you're doing all right?

Audience: Yes.

PC: Yeah.

Аудитория: Да.

LRH: Okay, now .. .

PC: I'm waiting to start marching, frankly.

LRH: Yes.

That women – that really is?

PC:Oh, it's there. No problem.

Это женщины... на самом деле?

LRH: Yeah — yeah, all right. Okay, well, just for the record, we just wanted you to get the body started so we'd sort of have a session started. But this next one, I would like to have you stop the body in a drill.

PC: All right.

LRH: It's a little drill that runs like this: We get the body moving over in that direction, and when I say "Stop," why, you stop the body. Is that .. .

Audience: Yes.

PC: Okay.

Аудитория: Да.

LRH: All right, that's the way it goes. All right, get the body moving in that direction.

Stop.

You get that military one? That's better.

Dames?

PC: Hup, two!

Леди?

LRH: Yeah, yeah, that's good. All right, once more, once more, we're going to practice stopping the body. Is that okay?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Hm?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: That's real good. Yeah, I'm with you.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: By the way, it'd be very amusing to you, perhaps to others, that I would just tell a preclear this at this point. I mean, this is not just a demonstration.

PC: Okay, all right.

LRH: I was running a Grenadier Guard on "Stop the body" and he'd come along and he'd stop! Three paces. All right.

Skoits?

PC: I know just how he felt too.

Юбки?

LRH: All right, all right. Now, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why you see — stop. All right? Get the body moving.

Stop.

Good. Did you stop the body? PC: I did. First time in a long time!

Audience: Skoits.

LRH: All right. Now let's try that once more. I'm going to ask you to get the body moving over there, and at some point I will ask you to stop, and you stop. All right?

Аудитория: Юбки.

PC:All right.

LRH: Okay. Get the body moving. Stop. Okay.

PC: I'm almost at the point where I don't have to.

Broads?

LRH: Almost — oh, really! All right. Now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving in that direction.

Бабы?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right, when I say "Stop," you stop. Okay. Get the body moving.

Stop. That's good! That's good! That's real good! That's very good!

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yeah, it sure is.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: I saw you do that.

PC:Yup, I did it.

LRH: All right. Now once more, once more, we're going to ask you to get the body moving in that direction and when I say "Stop," stop. Okay? Very good. Very good. You feeling all right?

PC: Fine, yeah.

You got that?

LRH: All right. Good. Get the body moving.

Вы это поняли?

Stop. Very good. Very good. Very good indeed.

PC: Maybe I'll even be able to run 8-C now.

LRH: Well, I'll let you in on something. If you were to run this process on a person that hadn't had — that was having a rough time and you didn't have 8-C flat on them — this looks awful innocent what we're doing up here. But for your particular benefit, just your information .. .

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: . . . if there's any doubt in your mind about a case, don't run this on them.

PC:Okay, all right.

LRH: This process has more beef per square inch than you can shake a stick at even though it's very simple. I'm not asking you to now — to expect anything more from the process than what we're just doing. But I'm just telling you the reason I called you out of the front row is I knew you wouldn't splatter yourself all over the stage.

And noble womanhood.

PC: Thank you.

И благородное дамское сословие.

LRH: All right, now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving over in that direction and when I say "Stop," you stop. Good?

PC: Good.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving.

All right. Look at him.

PC: Okay.

Ну хорошо. Посмотрите на него.

LRH: Stop. Very, very good! Very good. That's fine. That's fine. Thank you. Thank you.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, did you stop the body?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: I did!

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Good. That's fine. That's fine. All right, now once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I ask you to stop, you stop. Okay? All right. Get the body moving.

Stop. Very good, very good, very good. Thank you. Did you stop the body?

PC: I did.

Masculinity. Virility. Strength. Brutality. Ignorance. And utterly wrong.

LRH: Good. What's . . . How you doing?

Мужские качества. Мужественность. Сила. Жестокость. Невежество. И абсолютная неправота.

PC: Feels flat frankly.

LRH: Feel flat?

PC: No, I mean, feels like the process is — has come to the point where I'm stopping my body.

That's guys.

LRH: Well, very good. Very good. Now, you don't mind if we continue the process?

Это мужики.

PC: No. No.

LRH: This isn't an invalidation, you know.

PC: Not a bit, no, uh-uh.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: They just haven't seen it enough.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: All right — never sneak up on a preclear, he said.

LRH: Okay. By the way, do you notice I am touching the preclear's elbow occasionally steadying him down and so on? You'll find that it does maintain ARC after the preclear stops flinching. Don't refrain from doing it these days because it isn't a particularly bad boo-boo. All right, now once more I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

Fellows.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop! Very good. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Did you stop it?

Парни.

2 PC:Yes, I did.

LRH: You just knew you stopped it.

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Well, all right. Well, all right. You feeling all right about this?

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Mm-hm, I am.

LRH: How are you doing?

PC:Well.

Chaps.

LRH: Well. Good. All right. Now once more let's get the body moving in that direction and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Ребята.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You get the command now. When I say "Stop," you stop it.

PC: Right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Good. Let's get the body moving. Stop. All right. Good. Good. Let's turn it around

PC: Okay.

Pals.

LRH: All right, now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving; when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Кореша.

PC: You desire that I stop at any particular time span following your command?

LRH: I desire you to stop when you know you're stopping the body.

PC: Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Got it? When you know you're stopping the body. There isn't any drill here where I expect this to get into a perfectly rigid wham! You see? It'll do that soon enough. Okay.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right, let's get the body moving.

PC: All right.

LRH: Stop! Did you stop your body?

Buddies.

PC: I did.

Пацаны.

LRH: You did. You did stop your body?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Okay. All right. Now you — are you going a little bit further to make sure that you stopped it?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: I didn't, but I can.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: No, I'm not asking you to.

PC: No, I stopped it.

LRH: You stopped it. All right. Now, once more, it's all right if you continue this process a little bit?

Rats.

PC: Yep.

Мерзавцы.

LRH: Hm? Hm?

PC: Yep.

LRH: Is there any — have you — have you recalled any naval marching, and so forth as we have been doing this?

You got them?

PC: Which life?

Вы их нашли?

LRH: That's very good.

PC:Yes, I have. Which life? Yeah, I've had all sorts of it.

LRH: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Uh-huh.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: All right.

PC:A lot of it in front of audiences like this.

LRH: No kidding?

All right. That's real good. That's real good. Do you know that there are several-several people present that look much more alive than he does but I ask you to stretch your imagination just to the degree – but can you grant him a little beingness?

PC: Kind of afraid of those walls.

Отлично. Очень хорошо. Очень хорошо. Знаете ли вы, что есть некоторые... некоторые из присутствующих выглядят куда более живыми, чем он, но я попросил бы вас немного напрячь воображение... вы можете предоставить ему немного бытийности?

LRH: Good. All right. Now, once more. When I ask you to get the body moving, why, you get it moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop the body. Is that all right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop! Okay.

All right. Let's turn it around. Good. And once more when I ask you to get the body moving — when I ask, you get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Right.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: That okay with you? You're doing all right?

PC: Yep.

LRH: All right. I don't expect anything to happen.

He needs it.

PC:Well, I don't but, I'm not sure yet.

Ему это нужно.

LRH: All right. All right.

PC: A lot already has happened.

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving.

All right. Now, look at her.

PC: Okay.

Ну хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

LRH: Stop. Good. Good. Fine. All right, turn it around. Now, once more, let's get the body moving. When I say "Stop," stop it. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get the body moving.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Stop! Good. I like that one, two.

PC: I stopped it.

LRH: But you did stop it. You know you stopped it.

Look at him.

PC: Right.

Посмотрите на него.

LRH: All right. All right. You stopped it.

PC: In fact, I'm rather enjoying that part, because before tonight, I had to stop that way.

LRH: No kidding.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Oh Lord, touch a wall. One, two.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: They know.

LRH: Yeah, all right. All right, once more, when I ask you to get the body moving, I want you to get it moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

Good. All right. Now, what we're going to do here is just a little bit different than we've been doing before, just a little bit different. What we're going to do is easier. Is that better?

PC: Mm-hm.

Хорошо. Отлично. Так вот, то, что мы собираемся здесь делать, совсем чуть-чуть отличается от того, что мы делали раньше... совсем чуть-чуть отличается. Мы собираемся использовать более легкий процесс. Вам это больше нравится?

LRH: Good. All right, get the body moving. Stop. Did you stop it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Good. Good. That's all right. All right. And you don't mind if we continue this process a little bit?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: No.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Do you? Audience: No.

LRH: All right. Now, I'm going to ask you once more to get the body moving, and when I say "Stop," why you stop the body. All right?

PC: Right.

I feel some people don't quite believe me. Nevertheless, it's true and we're going to do this because it's a bigger subject that we're covering. Got that?

LRH: Good. Get the body moving.

Мне кажется, некоторые не очень-то верят мне. Тем не менее это правда. Мы собираемся это сделать, потому что таким образом мы охватим более широкую тему, чем раньше. Ясно?

Stop. Good. All right. That's very, very good. That's very good. Fine. You stopped it, huh?

PC: I stopped it.

LRH: You know you stopped it that time. Didn't you?

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yes, Sir.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Your — you have a good certainty.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Are you still worried about something that might happen?

All right. And I'm going to ask you – I'm going to ask you to look at one of these and then I'm going to ask you to hold her still. Is that okay? And keep her from going away. Complicated, isn't it?

PC: No.

Хорошо. И я собираюсь попросить вас... я собираюсь попросить вас посмотреть на одну из этих фигур, а потом я собираюсь попросить вас удержать ее в неподвижности. Вы не возражаете? И удержать ее от удаления. Это сложно, да?

LRH: Did you stop worrying about it just now? You were worrying about it here just a moment ago. That's why .. .

PC:We were talking about it then.

LRH: We were talking about it then.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: That was when you promised that nothing was going to happen and I've learned to doubt you.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: All right. All right. Well, I didn't — I didn't particularly want to upset you by carrying you on too far in the process, you see.

PC: No, I don't feel that I have been.

LRH: No, well, that's all right. Okay, well, let's turn the body around and you feel — you feel this is pretty flat?

I'm going to ask you to do two things at once, so to speak. Would you rather have the command «Keep her from going away and hold her still»? Would you rather have the command that way?

PC:I don't feel it's as flat as I thought it was about five minutes ago.

Я собираюсь попросить вас сделать две вещи одновременно, если можно так выразиться. Вы предпочли бы команду «Удержите ее от удаления и удержите ее в неподвижности»? Вы предпочли бы, чтобы команда звучала таким образом?

LRH: So you think we really ought to continue it a little bit?

PC:I think we can. We can leave it. It's .. .

LRH: It's all right to leave it.

Audience: No.

PC:Yeah, it's all right to leave it.

Аудитория: Нет.

LRH: You don't think we ought to continue it a little bit?

PC: Anytime I can get you to process me, we should go on and on and on.

LRH: Okay. All right.

PC:I'll leave it up to your purposes of demonstration.

No? «Keep her still and keep her from going away» is all right with you, huh?

LRH: Well, all right. Now, just for the fun of it — just for the fun of it this time, you be very doubly sure that you stopped it. Okay?

Нет?«Удержитееевнеподвижностии удержите ее от удаления» – такая команда вас устраивает, да?

PC: All right.

LRH: Anything that you have to do to make sure that you stopped it is quite important.

PC: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. And I'm going to ask you "Get the body moving." When I say "Stop," you stop it. All right? Good. Get the body moving.

Аудитория: Ага.

Stop. Okay. Did you stop it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. You did do that?

All right, and then I'll ask you to look at him and I will say – I will say, «All right, now, hold him still and keep him from going away.» How's that?

PC: Yeah.

Хорошо, и потом я попрошу вас посмотреть на него, и я скажу... я скажу: «Хорошо, теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления». Как вам это?

LRH: Okay. What's the matter?

PC: You're trying to sneak me out of my head, too.

LRH: I wouldn't do a thing like that.

Audience: Okay.

PC: Not the first time.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

LRH: Okay, and once more. When I ask you to get the body moving, why, you get it moving; when I say "Stop," you stop it.

PC: Right.

LRH: Good. And this time let's be real sure that you stopped it. That's good. Okay. All right. Get the body moving.

All right? Okay. Are you all set?

Stop. Very good. Very good. Very good. Did you stop it?

Ладно? Хорошо. Вы готовы?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Good. Well, fine. That's fine. Fine. And once more, this — when I ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving, when I say "Stop," you stop it. All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop. Good. Did you stop it? PC: Yes.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Well, very, very good. Very good. There'. nothing wrong with that at all, is there?

PC: No, uh-uh. I'm enjoying it.

LRH: Good. Good. That's fine. That's fine. Of course, you guys think we ought to be doing something else up here. Preclear', still alive.

We're ready to begin? Okay. You got an auditor?

PC: Lucky!

Мы готовы начать? Хорошо. У вас есть одитор?

LRH: But the actuality is — the actuality is what — how are you doing right here?

PC: Very well. I'm — you want me to tell them?

LRH: Yeah. Tell them.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Well, I came up here with twelve or fifteen years, that I'm real certain about in this lifetime — of military experience — eighteen, excuse me. And as I mentioned before when I made a stop, that — my own command or somebody else's — it was more on the military side than I knew about. This is gone now and I can now stop in a military fashion or not, by choice. Also, a lot of stuff has come off that's just ridges, so to speak.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Hm. Good. Good. That's very good. Now you're — you haven't got a somatic or anything like that?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. All right. Good. Well, you want to do this a few more times?

All right. Now, look at her.

PC: Sure.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

LRH: Well, all right. All right. Now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

PC: All right.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving. Stop.Good. Good. Did you stop it?

Audience: Okay, yeah.

PC: Yes.

Аудитория: Ага, хорошо.

LRH: All right. Very good. Very good. Very good. Now, once more, once more — we'll do it again. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, when I ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving and then when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay?

Okay. Hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC: Right.

Хорошо. Удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: All right. Get the body moving.

Stop. Good. How's that?

PC: Good.

Okay. All right. It is easier, isn't it?

LRH: Did you stop it?

Хорошо. Отлично. Это легче делать, да?

PC: Yes, I did.

LRH: You know you stopped it.

PC: I know I stopped it.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: You know you stopped it very absolutely.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Yes.

LRH: How do you feel about it?

PC: Good.

All right. Now, look at him.

LRH: Good.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него.

PC: Very pleased.

LRH: You don't feel upset about anything, huh? You did a moment a — about four commands ago there, didn't you, a little bit?

PC: Yeah, uh-huh.

Now, hold him still and keep him from going away.

LRH: What did you feel upset about?

Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

PC: I don't know, I was queasy.

LRH: Isn't that interesting.

PC: Huh-ha.

All right. You winning already?

LRH: All right. All right. Well, that isn't really a thorough run on this. But, there is another one that I would like you to do. You want to do this just a couple more times and then switch to the other one?

Хорошо. У вас уже есть победы?

PC: It's all right to leave this now or we can do it a couple more times.

LRH: Well, is it all right to leave it now?

PC: Yeah. Uh-huh.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: It really is?

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Oh, yeah.

LRH: All right. And you're doing all right?

PC: Yes.

Well all right. Good. Now, let's look at her.

LRH: All right. Well, then I'd like to run another process that has to do with the same thing. This process I'm running on you is actually the elementary SCS. There's another one called Stop-C-S which is quite distinctly different. It's not run any differently, but it is run with a bit more violence.

Нухорошо.Отлично.Теперьдавайте посмотрим на нее.

PC: Okay.

LRH: And we're not doing that one.

PC: Okay.

Now, hold her still and keep her from going away.

LRH: All right.

Теперь удержитееевнеподвижностии

PC:Saving it.

удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: Yeah, no, I've not — really been saving one for you.

PC: All right.

LRH: This one this time is Change.

PC: All right.

All right. How's that?

LRH: Change. We're going to have three spots here. Okay? And one spot, we will call spot A. See. It'd be right in about here — area.

Хорошо. Ну как?

PC: Okay.

LRH: And we're going to have another area over here that we're going to call spot B. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Fine.

LRH: And we're going to have another one over here that we're going to call spot C. And we're going to have another one over here that we call spot D.

Аудитория: Отлично.

PC: All right.

LRH: And it's run this way: I'm going to ask you to change the body's position on command and it will be from that spot to that spot, you see? And then we will do it again and change over to that spot. And we do it again and change over to that spot and so forth. The — to the spot which is called — we won't necessarily do it in a diamond pattern, you see.

PC:Oh, good. A, B, C, D, right?

It's easier to do now, huh?

LRH: It's A, B, C, D. Got it?

Сейчас это легче делать, а?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, let's take on position A here. Now, I'll show you exactly how this is done: Is I will ask you to change the body and actually I will say "When I say change the body, I want you to change the body's position from A to B." That would be it. And when I'd say that, then you would move from here over to here. Now, don't think that I'm considering you a dumb preclear by explaining this.

PC: No, all right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: That's what we know as changing the body's position from there to there.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Right.

LRH: All right, well, let's take spot A again, and let's really run it this time.

PC: Okay.

All right. Now, look at him.

LRH: And I'm going to ask you to change the body and when I do that, I want you to change the body's position from A to B. Okay?

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него.

PC: Right.

LRH: All right. You got that real flat?

PC: Yeah.

Now, hold him still and keep him from going away.

LRH: All right. Change the body's position. Good, good, good. You did that very well.

Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

PC: Thank you.

LRH: You do that very well.

All right, now there's spot C over there. Now, when I ask you to change the — change the body, I want you to change the body's position from B to C. Okay?

Okay. That's good. That's good. Now, look at her. Remember this is women. This is women now.

PC: Mm-hm.

Отлично. Хорошо. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Помните, что это женщины. Сейчас это женщины.

LRH: All right. That's very clear, huh? All right. Change the body. That's good. That's good. Did you do that?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Now, you understand the command, I want you to change this, see?

Now, hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC: Yes. It's coming through to me. Yeah.

Теперь удержитееевнеподвижностии удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: Well, I'm saying that — I'm not saying that in criticism of what you're doing. I merely want to punch up the fact that I am asking you .. .

PC: Right.

LRH: . . . to change the body's position. I'm not asking for the body's position to change, not because I would necessarily not, or be able to change the body's position myself. But unless we picked up some awareness with this, at the same time, I'm afraid we could run this all night and you wouldn't have the slightest.

All right. How's that?

PC: Yes.

Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: See, power of choice has got to come in here.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay?

Audience: Fine.

PC: Mm-hm.

Аудитория: Отлично.

LRH: All right. Now, when I ask you to change the body this time, I want you to change the body's position from C to D. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Change the body. Good, good, good.

Getting some wins?

PC:I did it.

Есть какие-то победы?

LRH: That's very good. You did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You did it.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Yeah.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: You know you did it.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right, now once more. Once more. Now, when I ask you to change the body I want you to change the body's position from D to A.

All right. You'll have a lot more before it's over now. Not having any real difficulty, huh?

PC: Good.

Хорошо. У вас будет еще много побед, прежде чем мы закончим с этим. У вас нет никаких серьезных трудностей, так?

LRH: Okay. All right. Change the body.

Okay. Did you do that?

PC: Yeah.

Audience: No.

LRH: What's the matter?

Аудитория: Так.

PC: Feels different when I do it!

LRH: All right. All right. Now, once more I'm going to ask you to — when I say "Change the body," why, I want you to change the body's position from A to C. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. Do you find you have to hold them sti – keep them from going away and then hold them still?

LRH: All right, change the body. Did you?

Хорошо. Вы чувствуете, что вам приходится удерживать их в не... удерживать их от удаления, а потом удерживать их в неподвижности?

PC: I did.

LRH: Good, all right. All right, that's very good. Are you doing all right?

PC: Yeah.

Audience: No.

LRH: I mean, this brings on no dizziness or anything of any character?

Аудитория: Нет.

PC: Not a bit.

LRH: Because I will guarantee to you, folks, that this is not the most therapeutic of these three commands.

PC:No, it doesn't bother me at all.

No? You do them both at the same time?

LRH: All right. Okay.

Нет?Вывыполняетеобадействия одновременно?

PC:And I'll tell you if it does.

LRH: Very good, very good, very good. All right. Now, once more I want you to go through this. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Yes.

LRH: As a matter of fact we can go through it just two more commands.

Аудитория: Да.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

All right. All right.

LRH: And then we've got one to return to that we were doing before.

Хорошо. Хорошо.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Now when I ask you to change the body's — change the body, I want you to change the body's position from C to D. Okay? All right, change the body.

That upset you?

PC: No. Not at all.

Is it getting more solid when you do that? Well, you see if it gets more solid when you do that. By the way, some of you have a bad idea of solidity. You think something is solid if it's simply solid. There's a part of the star dumbbell of Sirius, one teaspoonful of which on Earth would weigh one ton. And that's light compared to how solid I want you to be able to get these things.

LRH: All right. Change the body.

Эти объекты становятся более плотными, когда вы это делаете? Ну, посмотрите, становятся ли они более плотными, когда вы это делаете. Между прочим, у некоторых из вас неправильное представление о плотности. Вы думаете, что что-то плотное, если оно просто плотное. Есть звезда, спутник Сириуса, и одна чайная ложка вещества этой звезды на Земле весила бы тонну. И это еще небольшая плотность в сравнении с той плотностью, которой вы должны быть способны наделять эти объекты.

Got it?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

All right. Now, you look at him. Now, look at him.

PC: I didn't do that one.

Хорошо.Теперьвыпосмотритенанего. Теперь посмотрите на него.

LRH: You didn't do that one?

PC:Uh-uh. I just sort of went along with it.

LRH: Well, you want to do this a couple more times?

Hold him still and keep him from going away.

PC: All right. Be a good idea.

Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

LRH: All right. Now, this time I'm going to ask you to change the body and I want you to change the body's position from A to C. All right?

PC: Right.

LRH: Good. All right. Change the body. Did you?

All right. All right. How's that?

PC: Yes, I did.

Хорошо. Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: Oh, you did! All right, now this time I'm going to ask you to change the body, and I want you to change the body from C to A. Okay?

PC: Okay. Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, change the body.

Audience: Fine.

Good. How's that?

Аудитория: Отлично.

PC: Fine. Feel good.

LRH: That was pretty good, huh?

PC:Yeah. I did it.

You winning better?

LRH: You did it. You did that real good.

У вас еще больше побед?

PC: Yes, I did.

LRH: Well, all right now, do you suppose we could consider that flat?

PC: Sure.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Huh?

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: We can knock off that particular process. Is it all right with you if I make a few remarks to the audience concerning the process?

PC: Certainly.

All right. Now, look at her.

LRH: Okay. Now, that in essence is simple SCS. It's very simple. You would run it at the beginning of a session to get the preclear in-session.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

Now the funny part of it is, if I asked Carl right now whether or not the auditing room was more real to him, I could tell you pretty sure what he'd answer.

PC: Yes!

LRH: Uh-huh. Very definitely.

Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC:It's real real. I'm here.

Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: You're here, and is your auditor a little more .. .

PC: Yeah.

LRH: . . . squared around? How about you? You're here.

All right. All right. That's fine. That's fine.

PC:I feel quite a sense of elation .. .

Хорошо. Хорошо. Прекрасно. Прекрасно.

LRH: Good!

PC:. . . from knowing that I have run the body once in a while.

LRH: All right, all right, all right! In other words, in addition to starting a session which is the basic use of Start, Change and Stop — which is run in almost any order, except Stop first. You wouldn't run SCS with Stop first. That makes it a different process entirely — we then have been able to start a session. Do you see this? We have a preclear in good shape then. And we could run him very easily on processes which he ordinarily might not get much gain on, you see? And we could just run that to start a session with, to get a session started.

You winning real good?

Now, you understand that it's awfully good as a sort of an 8-C, but it's an introverted process. It is not an extrovert process at all. 8-C is an extrovert process. Walk over to the wall and touch it. You know, that's a wall! That isn't what he's doing at all. He's walking a body around here, and he's actually right up against the bank when he's doing this. See that? He had marching and all kinds of things mixed up in that.

У вас много побед?

Well, there are other processes to run. You could have him run processes of a very modern nature, yeah, after this. But the preclear would be sufficiently in-session so that if anything happened untoward, the auditor would have no great difficulty snapping him back into session again. Do you follow that? He wouldn't have a lot of difficulty snapping him back into session again because the preclear already knows he is running the body. He isn't under some kind of a quasi belief that the auditor is stuck in his head, too. You see this? It's kind of the way it feels.

All right, now that would be the process I would recommend to you to start your sessions with. Got that very clearly? I would recommend that process to you on any preclear to start the sessions with. And I'll show you a couple of minor points here — is it all right? And these are simply this.

We walk with the preclear. You see this. We walk along with the preclear. We don't let him get too far ahead of us. You see that? In other words, don't get that terminal too far apart, see? Another thing, we touch the preclear every now and then. Because we have to keep the preclear slightly extroverted. We make him aware of the auditor by tactile. Now a lot of preclears — go ahead and flinch. That's too good a flinch! Much too good a flinch!

Audience: Yeah.

Now, let me show you something. Did you notice that even though he went away from me I still kept hold of his elbow?

Аудитория: Ага.

Now, jerk the elbow away and say that you don't like people touching you.

PC: I don't like people touching me.

LRH: Oh, well, that's all right. PC: You won't get far!

Okay. Okay. Now, remember to use force.

LRH: Well, I know, but — that's one of the things that happens with this process. You really get over that sort of thing, you know? Smooth, huh?

Хорошо. Хорошо. Помните о том, что вы должны использовать силу.

PC: Smooth as butter.

LRH: But, I'll tell you something. If your preclear continues to have a tactile difficulty with you as the auditor, he hasn't got an auditor. Follow me? If a preclear is always afraid that the auditor is going to touch him in some little fashion, what do you think he thinks about his bank and the auditor touching it? He's going as far as his mind is concerned — flinch, flinch. You see? And he finds out that he doesn't get bitten, but he also finds out that he doesn't get loose.

That's right, isn't it?

Audience: Okay.

PC: Yes.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

LRH: The way you handle that is although you touch him on the elbow, you will find that there is a bending joint on the elbow right there, and even though he can jerk a little bit out of it so you don't want to crush him, you're right there again, because he can't jerk his arm very fast that way. He has a tendency to have to turn his body in order to get free from you, do you see? So this is just a little interesting point.

Another thing is, is why do you walk with a preclear? To give the auditor exercise, of course. No, there's an actual fact — there's an actual fact connected with it. I'll show you something.

All right, walk there. That's good. Walk there. Good. Walk there.

I want you to use force.

You don't like that, do you?

Я хочу, чтобы вы использовали силу.

PC: Uh-uh. No! There's been a change.

LRH: Been a change, hasn't it!

PC: Yes.

Look at him. Got him?

LRH: Look at that! Why? There's no mimicry! You see? No mimicry at all. And so, there really is no good communication between the auditor and the preclear.

Посмотрите на него. Видите его?

Did I ruin you completely by doing that?

PC: No.

LRH: Actually, if you did that to somebody who was real flighty, they would get real flighty.

All right, now listen.

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yes, Sir.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: I want to show them another process .. .

PC:"Sir," I said it too.

LRH: Huh?

All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away.

PC:I said, "Sir."

Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

LRH: Oh, that's good, that's good. That's all

All right. This I am going to show them is Stop-C-S. You don't run "C" until Stop is flat. If you — this won't happen to you — but if you had to scrape your preclear off the ceiling or something as a result of doing this, remember Ron said, "Take Indoctrination before you run Stop-C-S," okay? I think some of the HGC auditors over there will tell you something about this since I think they've had two or three blowups here that they have handled very adequately. You understand, when the preclear blows up in this, he would blow up anywhere — sometime. But he blows up — he gets it over with and he practically blows Clear, because he comes out of the central engram he's held in.

Well, we're not trying to do that to you.

All right. All right. How's that?

PC: Okay.

Хорошо. Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: But...

PC: I know you're encouraging me — you're discouraging me.

LRH: No, no I'm not trying to encourage you to do anything. I'm just telling these characters that I've — I'm being a good guy and I'm showing them a very recent process.

Audience: Okay.

PC: Okay.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

LRH: And I'm also hanging a little tag on it that says "Danger, 10,000 volts."

PC: Body?

LRH: "Call the undertaker." No, I don't think it will kill anybody if you're a good auditor.

Getting better?

All right. This is Stop-C-S. PC: Right.

Получается лучше?

LRH: And when I ask you to get the body moving, I want you to get the body moving over there. And when I ask you to stop the body, you stop it as still as you can, as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still.

Audience: Phew!

LRH: You got it?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Uh-huh.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: You got it.

PC:Yeah, as quick as I can, as still as I can and hold it absolutely still.

LRH: That's right!

Getting a lot better?

PC: All right.

Получается намного лучше?

LRH: That's right.

PC: And I do it.

LRH: You do it!

Audience: Yeah.

PC: All right.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: You do it. All right. Now, you got it? All right. Now, all I'm going to tell you is just "Stop."

All right, get the body moving.

Stop. That's right, that's right. Did you do it?

The first hour running out a little bit too?

PC: Yes.

То, что вы проходили на первом часе, тоже в какой-то мере стирается?

LRH: Did you manage it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Is the heart still beating?

Audience: Yes.

PC: I didn't go into those minor details.

Аудитория: Да.

LRH: Oh, well. We'll get into this in a minute. All right, all right. It's okay, it's okay. You did well, you did well. All right, now I want you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can — you doing it. And hold it absolutely still. Okay, you got that?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop. Okay, how was that?

All right. Now, remember – use all the force you want to, I want you to use force on this. Don't want you to just sit back with a little postulate and do it. Now, let's use force.

PC: I don't know what happened to the heart that time.

Хорошо. Так вот, помните: вы должны использовать столько силы, сколько вам угодно; я хочу, чтобы вы здесь использовали силу. Я не хочу, чтобы вы расслаблялись и пытались сделать это просто с помощью небольшого постулата. Сейчас давайте использовать силу.

LRH: You don't, huh. Were you satisfiedthough the body was still?

PC:Yeah. I have a reservation here.

LRH: What?

Look at her. Now, hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC: If you stop me off balance I'm not going to freeze and fall. In other words, if you said "Stop" when I was like so, oh, Jesus!

Посмотрите на нее. Теперь удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: Well, these are your own considerations. I mean I'm not — I'm just saying — just--no responsibility, no responsibility. Okay, all right. Now once more .. .

PC: Really.

LRH: Let's go through that same one. Allright, get the body moving.

Okay. How's that?

Stop. Good. Well, how do you think you did that time?

Хорошо. Ну как?

PC: Pretty well.

LRH: Pretty well.

PC: I'm not ready to hang it there off balance yet.

Audience: All right.

LRH: Oh, do you understand there might be a possibility that you could?

Аудитория: Нормально.

PC:Yeah, definitely.

LRH: You all of a sudden recognized that.

PC:That was last time, this was that light I was turning on.

All right. Getting better at it?

LRH: Oh, I see. He recognizes that you might stop a body that way without falling on its face. That's pretty good.

Хорошо. Сейчас получается лучше?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: That's pretty good. All right. Once more I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, you get it moving, and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Good, good. All right, get the body moving.

Аудитория: Ага.

Stop! Okay, how's that?

PC: Kind of shaky.

LRH: Oh, it was shaking.

Getting any ridges moving around in front of your face or anything like that?

PC:No, it's quivering slightly.

Перед вашим лицом перемещаются какие-то риджи или что-то с этом роде?

LRH: Quivering.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Apparently it was a lot of effort tied into it.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: That's an interesting thing. I don't care how much effort goes into it. You don't either. I mean, so what? What do you think about it? Is your critical level on how still "still" is, is suddenly risen. Is that right? Is that what's happening?

PC: Something in here. Yeah. Ten minutes ago, I would have said that I'd stopped four times and my body was getting tired of holding itself but now I doubt it.

LRH: Yeah? All right, all right, all right.

Hm? All right.

Once more let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop — you stop the body as quick as you can and know that you stopped it of course, and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

А? Хорошо.

All right. Get it moving.

Stop! Good, it's good. That's good. Did a little better that time.

PC: Mm-hm. Yeah. My eyeballs stopped twitching, too.

LRH: All right, all right. Let's try it again.

Now remember, use force. And we want this «keep her and keep him from going away» to be pretty absolute, you know. And we want that stillness to be stiller than still ever was. Got the idea?

PC: All right.

Так вот, помните, что вам нужно использовать силу. Мы хотим, чтобы это «удержите ее и удержите его от удаления» приближалось к абсолюту, понимаете? И мы хотим, чтобы эта неподвижность была неподвижнее, чем какая бы то ни было прежняя неподвижность. Вы поняли идею?

LRH: Let's try it again. Okay. That's real good. Now once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. All right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's the matter.

Audience: Hm-mm.

PC: I'm thinking of Elizabeth.

Аудитория: Угу.

LRH: Yeah?

PC: New Jersey.

LRH: Yeah?

All right. Look at him.

PC: Yeah.

Хорошо. Посмотрите на него.

LRH: What about it?

PC: Oh, some conversations were going through my mind, frankly. I'm back now.

LRH: What was the matter? What about them?

Now, hold him still and keep him from going away.

PC: Oh, it was a whole string of stuff came off there on Dianetics.

Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

LRH: What was it? What did it connect with?

PC: Oh, para-Scientology these days — para-Dianetics in those days.

LRH: Yeah.

All right. How's that doing now, huh?

PC: Two pencils, a train went by, a conversation we had at breakfast the other day or lunch the other day.

Хорошо. Как это идет сейчас, а?

LRH: Good. Swish, swish.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, all right. Well, all right. Okay. You all set now?

Audience: Okay.

PC: Mm-hm.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving. Stop! Okay. How are you making it?

PC: Good.

LRH: Was that better?

Are you getting much better at it?

PC:Yes, it was. Uh-huh.

У вас сейчас получается гораздо лучше?

LRH: All right, all right. Good, good, good. All right, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can — knowing you stopped it — and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Okay.

LRH: Now, we can actually consider that a sort of a condensed command, can't we? When you stop it as quick as you can, you also stop it as still as you can.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Right.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Got the idea?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, get it moving.

All right. Now, let's establish this critter over here again.

Stop! Okay, all right, all right. Did you do it?

Хорошо. Теперь давайте снова установим существование этого создания.

PC: Yes.

LRH: You did it. That's a boy, that's a boy. You got a quiver on it?

PC: Mm-hm.

Look at her. Look at her. Got her?

LRH: Hm?

Посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Нашли ее?

PC: Coming up.

LRH: Yeah?

PC:A little stronger. I .. .

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: The quiver is stronger .. .

Аудитория: Ага.

PC:. . . see, I feel a little quiver in the right knee there.

LRH: ... the quiver is stronger?

PC: Yes.

She there?

LRH: Oh, no.

Она там?

PC:Oh, yes.

LRH: Now look, if you think I'm trying to get you to blow or do something like that just for the audience benefit, I'm not.

PC: No, I know it.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: I'm not. But I will tell you confidentially, that preclears sometimes sit on a rest point surrounded by a lot of motion, and they sometimes come off of them. I don't know what happens when they come off of them but you're .. .

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: I'm in good hands. LRH: You're in good hands.

PC: All right, okay.

LRH: All right, all right, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it. Okay? All right. Does a naval valence have anything to do with this?

She's women. Okay?

PC: No, not much navy here.

Она – это женщины. Да?

LRH: Not much navy — what is here?

PC: While you were talking then, I had quitea pain coming up through here.

LRH: Is that right?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Not to mention any old spear wounds. It feels a hell of a lot like it.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: All right.

PC:I won't go into details.

LRH: All right. Now, once more let's go through the same one. All right? Get the body moving, and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quick as you can and hold it absolutely still. Actually, I might even amend the auditing command there if it'd make better sense to you. Does it make good sense to you?

That's women. Dames. Ladies. Ladies.

PC:Yeah. It seems to be perfectly fine.

Это женщины. Дамы. Леди. Леди.

LRH: All right, good. Well, get the body moving.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Stop. All right, how was that?

And noble womanhood. You got it now?

PC: Okay.

И благородное дамское сословие. Это вам ясно?

LRH: Did you make it better?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Also getting more used to the command.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Mm-hrn.

PC: Uh — up till now I've been stopping and holding it waiting for a command to let go.

LRH: Oh!

All right. Look at her. Now, hold her still

PC: I wasn't recognizing your okays and that sort of thing.

Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Теперь удержите

LRH: Oh, an acknowledgment suddenly hit. Good.

PC: Fine.

LRH: Good.

PC: Fine.

and keep her from going away.

LRH: Good.

еевнеподвижностииудержитеееот удаления.

PC: Wonderful!

LRH: All right.

PC: That's what you mean, huh!

All right. How's that?

LRH: Yeah, that's what I mean. All right nos again, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quickly as you can and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

Хорошо. Ну как?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right, good. Just make sure you're doing it. You know? Understood? You understand that if you have to move a little further to make sure you're doing it, that's all right with me.

PC: Yeah, okay.

Audience: Okay.

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop! Okay. How was that?

Аудитория: Хорошо.

PC: Good, much better.

LRH: Better? How's the quiver?

PC:It's the other knee.

Getting even better?

LRH: Oh, it's the other knee!

Получается еще лучше?

PC:It isn't the quivering — it's just a shock ii back.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Balance, I don't know.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: All right, all right.

Аудитория: Ага.

Okay, you understand what we're doing up here?

Audience: Yes! Yeah!

LRH: You know what we're doing?

Getting smoother at it?

Audience: Yeah.

Получается легче?

LRH: Do you really know what we're doing?

PC: Aren't they lucky.

Audience: No.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: What do you think the common denominator of every accident that a guy has ever been in is?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Stop.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Stop.

You having a lot less trouble than you did in the first hour?

LRH: He depends on the physical universe to stop him all the time, doesn't he?

У вас гораздо меньше трудностей, чем на предыдущем часе?

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: So he loses control of stop, doesn't he?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: Because stop is bad, isn't it?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Uh-huh. Yeah.

LRH: Yet stop is part of start, change and stop, which is the three factors of control, isn't it?

Audience: Yeah. Yes.

Huh? Well, you know she's just any woman now, any woman.

LRH: How do you expect a guy to control anything if he can't stop things?

Да? Вы знаете, что сейчас она – просто любая женщина, любая женщина.

Audience: You can't.

LRH: All right — let's get to work.

Okay, now once more. Did that bother you?

All right. Now, let's look at him. This is a guy, a fellow, a noble and virtuous sire.

PC: Mm-mm.

Хорошо. Теперь давайте посмотрим на него. Это парень, малый, это честный и благородный господин.

LRH: All right. Let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quickly as you can and hold it that way. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. What's the matter, you got atummy diaphragm hitting you?

Man. He's men, you gals. Men. Got him?

PC: No — it's through there.

Мужчина. Он мужчина – слышите, девчонки? Мужчина. Нашли его?

LRH: It's still through there? You've still got the same somatic.

PC: Right.

LRH: Hey, look, are you slacking off on the amount of effort you're using on that stuff?

All right.

PC: No.

Хорошо.

LRH: You're not, you're not at all, huh? All right, good. If it takes effort, you know, it takes effort.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. All right, get the body moving Stop! Okay, how was that?

Look at him. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away.

PC: Okay.

Посмотрите на него. Теперь вы удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

LRH: Did you do it?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You did it.

All right. How's that?

PC: Mm-hm.

Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: Still got a somatic?

PC: Mm, barely.

LRH: Barely! Oh, you mean something's happening to the somatic? Aw, this is bad. You'll have to — have to invent some somatics.

Audience: All right. Fine.

PC: I think I have.

Аудитория: Хорошо. Нормально.

LRH: All right. Once more, let's get the body moving, when I say "Stop," you stop it, and having done so, why, make sure that the stop is sufficient so the body is absolutely still. You know, that's what I mean.

PC: After I make the stop, I check to make sure it's still.

LRH: That's right, that's right. Would you do that? I'm not — I'm changing the auditing command just a little bit but I'm just trying to communicate a better understanding.

All right. Now, look at her. Look at her.

PC: Okay.

Хорошо.Теперьпосмотритенанее. Посмотрите на нее.

LRH: All right, let's get the body moving. Stop! Okay, how's that?

PC: I didn't check afterwards.

LRH: You didn't check.

Look at her.

PC: Uh-uh.

Посмотрите на нее.

LRH: Well, that's all right, all right. Let's try it again.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Let's try it again, let's do the same thing only let's make sure we check.

Now, I want to call something to your attention. There's a lot more body there than you've been looking at.

PC: All right.

А сейчас я хочу обратить ваше внимание кое на что. То, на что вы до сих пор смотрели, – это еще далеко не все. Заметьте, что у нее есть

LRH: All right, get the body moving.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Stop! All right. All right, you did it.

PC: Yeah.

Notice she has hands. She has feet. She has a head. Got it?

LRH: You did it. Body seemed stiller than it was?

руки. У нее есть ноги. У нее есть голова. Ясно?

PC:Yes it did. Actually it's very difficultfor me at least, to check — use a mentalprocess immediately after making ahard stop. Ughhhhh! Why not!

LRH: Why not!

All right. Well, let's just do this a couple of more times. How's that somatic?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Faint but there.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Faint but there. Well, now listen.

PC:It's standing still that gives it to me.

LRH: You really object to stopping the session after a couple of more times.

All right. Look at her. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC: No, I don't.

Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: Standing still gives it to you?

PC: Yeah, I'm suspicious of what we've been stopping.

LRH: Oh!

All right. All right. You find out there was more of her?

PC:No, it's lack of effort I think.

Хорошо. Хорошо. Вы обнаружили, что она на самом деле больше?

LRH: Lack of effort.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: You have a curiosity about what's wrong?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: No, uh-uh. I'm cur — I have a curiosity about what it is but not the detail of an incident or anything.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Well, all right. All right. Now I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop it as quickly as you can, and hold it absolutely still. Got it?

PC: You want me to check this now?

LRH: Yes, and I sure want you to check it so you're satisfied. All right, let's get the 6body moving.

Hm? Got two hands and legs.

Stop! All right, what you got?

А? У нее две руки и две ноги.

PC: After you stop it you don't need effort anymore.

LRH: Interesting, isn't it?

PC:Yes, it is.

Now, notice that he has two hands too and he's got a head and he's got a hat and he's got feet and shoes – everything. Now, we want the whole thing held still, see? And the whole thing kept from going away. You understand? We don't want – we don't want him standing there keeping from going away going like this or something like that.

LRH: Interesting, yes! All right, well now, how's the somatic?

Так вот, заметьте, что у него тоже две руки, и у него есть голова, у него есть шляпа, у него есть ноги и ботинки – полный набор. Так вот, мы хотим, чтобы все это удерживалось в неподвижности, понимаете? И все это удерживалось от удаления. Вы понимаете? Мы не хотим... мы не хотим, чтобы он стоял и удерживался от удаления таким вот образом или как-то в этом роде.

PC:A little heavier than it was last time.

LRH: Oh! Heavier! That's all right. We can take care of that.

PC: All right.

Now, let's impose your will upon this situation. Look at him. Hold him still and keep him from going away.

LRH: All right, now once more let's — we'd better run it, oh, about three, four more times, huh?

Так вот, давайте в этой ситуации задействуем вашу волю. Посмотрите на него. Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

PC: All right.

LRH: All right, now once more, let's get the body moving; when I say "Stop," why, you stop it as quickly as you can, and hold it absolutely still and find out if you did. Okay?

PC: Okay.

You're making it?

LRH: All right, let's get the body moving. Stop! How'd that seem to you?

У вас это получается?

PC:I did it.

LRH: You did it. You did it all right.

PC: And actually, this period of seconds

Audience: Yeah.

after I stopped, the somatic is completely gone.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: And now, it's back again.

PC: Very — less — at a lesser rate however.

LRH: Well, all right. Let's do that again. I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, and when I say "Stop" .. .

Did you discover there was still a little part that wasn't quite under control?

Do you know why I'm repeating this auditing command to him every time? Do you know why?

Вы обнаружили, что оставалась какая-то маленькая частичка, которая не вполне поддавалась контролю?

Audience: No. Why?

LRH: Because it's a new instant of time. We're not running a session dependent upon the first command I gave him.

PC: We couldn't run this with one command.

Audience: No.

LRH: That's right. It'd go blooey.

Аудитория: Нет.

All right. Now, let's get the body moving and when I say "Stop," you stop, and then hold it absolutely still. All right? Good, let's get the body moving.

Stop! Okay, all right, all right. You did — you doing better on it?

PC: Oh, yeah.

No? Some of you did?

LRH: You've still got a somatic, I suppose.

Нет? Некоторые из вас ее обнаружили?

PC: No.

LRH: It's gone down, it's gone down appreciably. All right, let's do it a couple of more times.

PC: All right.

Audience: Yeah.

LRH: I think we've got three more coming on this.

Аудитория: Ага.

PC: Okay.

LRH: We just may. All right now, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving — I want you to get it moving. When I ask you to stop, why, you stop, and hold it absolutely still. Stop it as quickly as possible and hold it absolutely still. Okay?

PC: Mm-hm.

All right.

LRH: All right, now, let's get the body moving. Stop! All right, how's that?

Хорошо.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Pretty good? Pretty good? All right now once more, once more, I'm going to ask you to get the body moving, and when you get the body moving, I will say "Stop" somewhere along the line and when I say "Stop," I want you to stop the body as quickly as possible and hold it absolutely still. And then sort of check it to make sure you did it. Okay?

All right, good. Now, let's get the body moving.

Stop!

Okay. All right. That's fine. That's fine.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, look at her. Look at her. We want you to do this to all of her now. Now, you look at her – now you hold her still and keep her from going away.

LRH: All right. How was that?

Ладно. Хорошо. Отлично. Отлично. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Мы хотим, чтобы вы сделали это со всей ней. Сейчас вы посмотрите на нее... сейчас вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

PC: All right.

LRH: How's the self-critical factor here. You're doing better?

PC:Yeah, I think so.

All right. How's that?

LRH: No quiver?

Хорошо. Ну как?

PC: No, the quiver's been gone for four or five times.

LRH: Just been gone, huh. How's the somatic?

PC: Very faint.

Audience: Fine.

LRH: Too faint, huh?

Аудитория: Нормально.

PC: I don't — I don't think a few more would do it any good .. .

LRH: Oh, you think it's stuck now. Well, let's see — we did one, two; we got one more, one more.

All right. Now I'm going to ask you to get the body moving and when you get the body moving, I'm going to ask you to stop and when I say "Stop," I want you to stop the body as quickly as you can and then hold it absolutely still. Then check it and find out if you did it. Okay?

You doing pretty good now, huh?

PC: Okay.

У вас сейчас получается довольно неплохо, а?

LRH: All right, get the body moving. Stop!

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: You did it. All right, how are you feeling?

Audience: Yeah.

PC: Good.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Doing all right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Doing all right?

You doing pretty good, huh? Well, that's pretty good. I want a seminar – two seminar leaders up on this side and two seminar leaders up on this side. Front and center. Chop-chop. Good. Attaboy. Each one of you grab each end of that table and very carefully, steadying the dummy the while, turn him around. Easy. All the way around.

PC: Really am.

У вас получается довольно неплохо, а? Что ж, это довольно неплохо. Я хочу, чтобы ведущий... два ведущих семинара вышли и встали с этой стороны и два ведущих семинара – с этой стороны. Вперед. Раз-два. Хорошо. Молодцы. Сейчас каждый из вас возьмется за один конец стола и очень осторожно, придерживая манекен, развернет его кругом. Плавно. На 180 градусов.

LRH: Okay, still got a somatic?

PC: Faint.

LRH: Faint somatic. Oh, all right. You're not having too rough a time of it.

Okay. Thank you boys. Thank you. All right now, all right now. Did that disturbance bother you?

PC: No, no — it's gone — it's gone.

Хорошо. Спасибо, ребята. Спасибо. Ну хорошо, хорошо. Это перемещение обеспокоило вас?

LRH: Oh, no, no we're not worried about the people.

PC: All right.

LRH: Preclear, you're doing all right, though?

Audience: No.

PC: Yes.

Аудитория: Нет.

LRH: You still got a little somatic?

PC: Yes.

LRH: You got any tummy quiver?

Oh, it did, huh? Well, we'll run it out.

PC: No.

Что, да? Ну, мы пройдем и устраним это.

LRH: Just a somatic goes with this.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Well, can we consider this — it isn't and it wouldn't be for another ten to fifteen hours of processing — but you can consider this momentarily flat.

Okay.

PC: Yes.

Ладно.

LRH: Momentarily flat, and you don't think it would be of any vast disturbance if we knocked it off. Huh?

PC:Oh, not a bit, no.

LRH: You're doing all right.

Now, here she is and here he is. Same process. Look at her.

PC: Yeah.

Итак, вот она и вот он. Тот же самый процесс. Посмотрите на нее.

LRH: You mind if we run another little process which is a cute little gimmick process; it goes about five minutes. Huh?

PC: Sure.

LRH: Would you like to do that?

Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC:Love to.

Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: All right. Now, hand me his chair.

Okay, now I want you to sit down there. Would you please?

PC: Surely.

All right.Allright.That'salittle different, isn't it?

LRH: Okay. All I want you to do — this is a — this is a kind of a funny looking process and they're going to laugh like hell, but I want you to do this process anyway. You see we've got a little somatic and I want to clean it up fast.

Хорошо. Хорошо. Это немного отличается, не так ли?

PC: Okay.

LRH: See? And we're going to run a little process that's known as Curiosity.

PC: Okay.

All right. Now, look at him. Look at him now. Look at him. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away.

LRH: And the only reason we're running Curiosity at all — don't you people do this by the way, just the preclear, you understand? The only reason we're going to do this is just to maybe knock out the somatic slightly.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. Теперь посмотрите на него. Посмотрите на него. Теперь вы удержите его в неподвижности и

PC:All right.

LRH: Or make it so horrible that you won't be able to sleep all night. No telling.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right, now I want you to — actually what happens is I'm going to wiggle my hand, and I'm going to ask you to become curious about what I'm doing.

PC: Okay.

удержите его от удаления.

LRH: Got it? I'm going to ask you to become curious about what I'm doing. That's all there is to it.

PC: All right.

LRH: You just manage a curiosity about what I'm doing. Is that okay?

All right. How's that?

PC: Good.

Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: All right. Did you?

PC: Yep.

LRH: Did you really become curious about it?

Audience: Fine.

PC: Yeah.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

LRH: All right, how's that?

PC: Good!

LRH: Good. All right, now I'm going to ask you to become curious about this motion, and you do so. Okay?

Little different, isn't it?

PC: Mm-hm.

Это немного отличается, да?

LRH: All right.

PC: Okay.

LRH: You did that?

Audience: Yeah.

PC:Yeah. You know, this is not flattering to the auditor. This is not flattering to you.

Аудитория: Ага.

LRH: Why?

PC: To my curiosity — why would any so-and-so do a thing like that?

LRH: Pretty good! Pretty good.

All right.

PC:It's good for somatics too.

Хорошо.

LRH: That's very good. Huh?

PC:It's good for somatics too.

LRH: What happened to the somatic?

Now, I want you to do it with strength, force, power. I want you to be doing it, you understand? You got that? You do it. Don't depend on any other force or automaticity to do it. Just check yourself over and make sure you're doing it. Not some machine you've got or something.

PC:It's gone completely.

Так вот, я хочу, чтобы вы использовали силу, мощь. Я хочу, чтобы вы делали это, понимаете? Это ясно? Именно вы делаете это. Вы не полагаетесь на то, что это будет делать какая-то другая сила или автоматизм. Просто проверьте и убедитесь, что это делаете вы. А не какая-то из ваших машин или что-то в этом роде.

LRH: No kidding.

PC: Uh-huh.

LRH: Well, all right! Why should we worry about this.

Look at her, hold her still and keep her from going away.

PC: I'm through, if you are.

Посмотритенанее,удержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

LRH: You all right then?

PC: Yeah, thank you very much.

LRH: Okay. Well, do you consider you've hadany benefit from this session?

All right. How's that, huh?

PC: Yes, I do, very much so.

Хорошо. Ну как?

LRH: You do. Do you think that they had any benefit from it?

PC: I don't even give a darn.

LRH: End of session. End of session.

Audience: Okay. Yeah.

You'll have to give the man his chair back.

Аудитория: Ага, хорошо.

Well, that's it. That's Stop-C-S you just saw. Now, some of you who are new to Scientology might think that there was very little significance in this or that it smacked of drill parades or it smacked of something. But, by golly, there's one thing it doesn't smack of — mental healing. Primarily because it's very effective.

This little gadget — you want to turn off somebody's little somatics or stomach quivers, something like that, why, just tell him, "Become curious about it," and flap your hands at him, and it'll go.

Male voice: Sure will!

That's pretty good, huh?

Ah, yeah well, I didn't have much to talk to you about this evening so I kind of filled in.

Получается довольно неплохо, а?

Thank you very much.

Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're getting real sharp at it? Вы становитесь весьма ловкими в этом деле? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Huh? All right. Now, look at him. Да? Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How are you doing on that now, huh? Хорошо. Как у вас сейчас получается, а? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You getting better at it? У вас это получается лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Much better? Гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Хорошо. Now, look at her. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Hm? Хорошо. Ну как? А? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You're getting sharp at this now, huh? Теперь вы становитесь ловкими в этом деле, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're getting sharper? You people toward the back having a better time of it, too? Huh? All right. Вы становитесь более ловкими? У тех, кто сидит на задних рядах, тоже получается лучше? Да? Хорошо. Now, I don't care how much force and power you use, I'd like to see you use some for a change, you know? Roooof! Так вот, меня не волнует, сколько силы и мощи вы будете использовать; используйте их ради разнообразия, понимаете? Рруууууф! Look at him. Got him? Посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well, look at him. Ну, посмотрите на него. Hold him still and keep him from going away. Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Нормально. All right. Am I going too slow for you? Хорошо. Я подаю вам команды слишком медленно? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. Going too fast? Слишком быстро? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. Now, look at her. Look at her. She there? Теперь посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Она здесь? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Okay. Note the fact that she does have appendages, appurtenances and other things. All right. Хорошо. Обратите внимание на тот факт, что у нее есть конечности, отростки и прочие причиндалы. Хорошо. You're doing it now, aren't you? Вы сейчас это делаете, так ведь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're holding her still, aren't you? Вы удерживаете ее в неподвижности, так ведь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. They ought to be getting pretty doggone still by this time. All right. All right. All right. К этому времени они уже должны быть довольно-таки неподвижными. Хорошо. Хорошо. Хорошо. Look at him. Look at him. Got him? Посмотрите на него. Посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Is he there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. He is there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. All right. Look at her. Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Okay. Аудитория: Да. Да. All right. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. Got that? Получилось? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You do it? Вы это сделали? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. That's fine. That's fine. Now, look at him. Got him? Хорошо.Прекрасно.Прекрасно.Теперь посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Is he there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Does he exist? Он существует? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: 1956. Аудитория: 1956-й. All right. Look at him. What's the date? Хорошо. Посмотрите на него. Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. Now, hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. Is that a better win? Хорошо. Вы добились еще большего успеха? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Huh? It isn't taking you quite so long to do it now, is it? Да?Сейчасэто занимает увасменьше времени, правда? Audience: No. Аудитория: Правда. Is that right? All right. Look at her. Это так? Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. Got her there? Хорошо. Нашли ее там? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Got her real good? По-настоящему нашли? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. Look at her. Where is she? Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Где она? Audience: Right there. Аудитория: Прямо здесь. All right. Хорошо. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. That's fine. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо. Прекрасно. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. How's that? Отлично. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Good. How about you in the back there? Отлично. Как насчет тех, кто сидит на задних рядах? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Making okay, huh? Получается нормально, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, look at him. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. Good. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Better, huh? Лучше, да? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Better, huh? This thing getting flat? Лучше, да? Эта штука сглаживается? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Process getting flat now? Этот процесс сейчас сглаживается? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Huh? А? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well good. That's good. Ну хорошо. Это хорошо. Look at her. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. All right. Look at her real good.Is she there? Хорошо.Посмотритенанееочень внимательно. Она здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September the 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. Well, what do you know? We're really getting it now. Ктобымогподумать?Сейчасунас действительно получается. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Hm? You mean you – how are you doing now really? You're doing much better on this? Да? Вы хотите сказать, что вы... Правда, как у вас сейчас дела? У вас сейчас дела идут гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. Okay. Аудитория: Ага. Да. Does this have some semblance of kind of flattening a little bit? Похоже на то, что этот процесс в какой-то степени сглаживается? Audience: Oh, yeah. Аудитория: О, да. You can do it better than you did? Вы можете делать это лучше, чем раньше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well, I got another little process I want to run in, but how about me running this just a couple of more times and then we knock off this particular process, okay? Ну, у меня есть еще один небольшой процесс, который я хотел бы вам провести, но как вы посмотрите на то, что я дам вам эти команды еще пару раз, а потом мы прекратим данный процесс, а? Audience: Yeah. Okay. Аудитория: Ага, ладно. All right. Look at him. Хорошо. Посмотрите на него. Audience: All right. Okay. Аудитория: Да. Хорошо. All right. You hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо. Вы удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Good. Good. Хорошо. Хорошо. Now, look at her – this is the last command now – last command. All right. Теперь посмотрите на нее... это последняя команда... последняя команда. Хорошо. Look at her now and you hold her still and keep her from going away. Посмотрите на нее, и вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How is that? Hm? Хорошо. Ну как? А? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Anybody in terrible condition? Кто-то находится в ужасном состоянии? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. Aw, shucks! О, черт! Did you get much better at it? У вас стало получаться гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. No. Аудитория: Ага. Нет. No? Somebody say no back there? Was there anybody around that couldn't do it at all? Was there anybody around that didn't really see anything difficult in it because it was just standing there anyhow? Нет? Кто-то на задних рядах сказал «нет»? Был ли кто-то, кто вообще не мог это делать? Был ли кто-то, кому казалось, что это делать совсем не трудно, потому что эти штуки все равно стоят перед нами? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. How about just leveling this whole thing off with a little bit of spotting, huh? Как вы смотрите на то, чтобы взять и стабилизировать все это, используя небольшой процесс по нахождению, а? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Want to do some spotting? Хотите пройти процесс по нахождению? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Well now, what I'm going to do is point out the sides and the walls and the things and stuff in the room and you're going to spot them, okay? Отлично. Так вот, я буду указывать на различные части этой комнаты, на стены и так далее, а вы будете их находить, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. And every time you do you tell me okay, all right? И каждый раз после того как вы их найдете, говорите мне «хорошо», ладно? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. And then I, dutifully, because I have heard you, will acknowledge your communication, okay? Хорошо. А потом я послушно... поскольку я вас услышал, я буду давать подтверждение вашему общению, ладно? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Хорошо. Find the floor. Найдите пол. Good. Good. Find the wall on your right. Хорошо. Хорошо. Найдите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the wall on your left. Хорошо. Найдите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Did you do that? Хорошо. Вы это сделали? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the ceiling. Хорошо. Найдите потолок. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the front of the room. Хорошо. Найдите переднюю часть комнаты. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the back of the room. Хорошо. Найдите заднюю часть комнаты. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. All right. Хорошо. Отлично. Now, how're you doing? Does that make you feel a little better? Как у вас дела? Вы чувствуете себя немного лучше? Audience: All right. Аудитория: Все в порядке. All right. Хорошо. Well, you seem to have that one pretty Ну, на самом деле похоже, что этот процесс у flat as a matter of fact. I don't think there's even any reason to give you warning of end of process on it. Is there any particular...? You doing all right? Huh? вас полностью сглажен. Я даже не думаю, что нужно давать вам предупреждение об окончании процесса. Есть ли какая-то конкретная?.. У вас дела нормально? А? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You doing all right. Will you mind if I change that process a little bit? У вас дела нормально. Вы будете возражать, если я немного изменю этот процесс? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. Now, we're going to run a little process on you whereby I'm going to ask you to put the objects in place which I call out to you, okay? Так вот, мы проведем с вами небольшой процесс: я буду просить вас помещать различные предметы там, где я вам скажу, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You sound a little doubtful. Now, you understand the auditing command will be to «put a floor down there,» for instance, and then you see if you can put a floor down there, you got it? Ваш ответ звучит немного неуверенно. Так вот, вы понимаете, команда одитинга будет, к примеру, такой: «Поместите пол вот здесь, внизу» – и вам надо будет попытаться поместить там пол, ясно? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. And «put a right-hand wall over there» and you do that, okay? А потом я скажу: «Поместите правую стену вон там» – и вы это сделаете, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Is this all right with you? Вы согласны сделать это? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Do you like the phrasing in the auditing command? Вамнравитсяформулировкакоманды одитинга? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Doesn't do any good if you were to say no, I mean I'm the auditor. Хорошо. Конечно, если бы вы сказали «нет», вам бы это не помогло... All right. Хорошо. You put a floor down there. Вы поместите пол вот здесь, внизу. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну хорошо. Now, you put a right-hand wall over there. Теперь вы поместите правую стену вон там. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well good. Now, you put a left-hand wall over there. Ну, хорошо. Теперь вы поместите левую стену вон там. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Отлично. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now, you put a ceiling up there. Теперь вы поместите потолок вон там, вверху. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well good. All right. You put a front on the room. Ну, хорошо. Отлично. Вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну, отлично. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now good. You put a chair under you. Хорошо. Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Let's try that again. Now, you put a chair under you. Отлично. Давайте попробуем еще раз. Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну хорошо. Now, you put a floor under the chair. Теперь вы поместите пол под стулом. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. All right. Ну, хорошо. Отлично. Now, you put an Earth under the floor. Теперь вы поместите Землю под полом. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now,youputaMESTuniverse underneath the Earth, okay? Теперь вы поместите МЭСТ-вселенную под Землей, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Ну, хорошо. Now, let's get back to the chair and you put a chair under you. Теперьдавайтевернемсякстулу.Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Is there something for it to sit on? Ну, хорошо. У него есть на чем стоять? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you just make sure and you put something there for it to sit on. Ну, отлично. Теперь, просто на всякий случай, вы поместите там что-то, на чем он может стоять. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Good. Отлично. Хорошо. Now, you put a wall on your right. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну, хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: All right. Аудитория: Ладно. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now good. You put a front on the room. Ну, отлично. Хорошо. Вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Now, you put a floor under you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: All right. Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. Хорошо. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Now, you put a ceiling over you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите потолок над собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну отлично. Now, you put that dummy there. Теперь вы поместите здесь этот манекен. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put that dummy there on... Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите здесь этот манекен на... Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a floor under you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Let's do it better. You put a floor under you. Отлично. Давайте сделаем это еще лучше. Вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you do better than that. Отлично. Теперь сделайте это еще лучше. You put a floor under you. Вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you do that? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева о себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you put a wall on your left. Отлично. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Отлично.Хорошо.Теперьвыпоместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you put an audience here. Отлично.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put an audience here. Нухорошо.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put me up here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put me up here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you put an audience here. Ну,хорошо.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you create a congress. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you create a congress. Отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you create a congress. Ну, отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. That's all right. Now, you create a congress. Отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an audience. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. That's okay. Now, you put me up here. Это хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a whole room here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите всю комнату здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Ну хорошо. How do you feel? Как вы себя чувствуете? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. How you doing? Как у вас дела? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Where are you? Где вы? Audience: Here. Аудитория: Здесь. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September the 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. Brother,does that sound different than it did! Ого, это звучит совсем иначе, чем раньше! Good. I'll now give you the Chinese custom. Хорошо. Теперь я покажу вам один китайский обычай. Good audience. Хорошая аудитория. Good preclears – good preclears. Хорошие преклиры... хорошие преклиры. Good congress. Хороший конгресс. Thank you. Спасибо. Supposing – you intimated earlier that you were going to make me work tonight. Если... вы раньше намекнули, что собираетесь заставить меня работать сегодня вечером. Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. If you're going to do that, however, I think that we ought to take till 7:00 o'clock, don't you? Отлично. Однако если вы собираетесь так поступить, по-моему, нам стоит сделать перерыв до 7 вечера, вы согласны? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Huh? А? Well you know, this time I might even be on time. Ну, знаете, на этот раз я, возможно, даже буду вовремя.