HCL-DEMO: THETA BODY DEMONSTRATION | HCL-DEMO: THETA BODY DEMONSTRATION |
LRH: Dead, huh? You dead? | LRH: Dead, huh? You dead? |
PC: Nope. | PC: Nope. |
LRH: Which one of you is alive? Which one of you is alive? | LRH: Which one of you is alive? Which one of you is alive? |
PC: Center. | PC: Center. |
LRH: Center is alive? | LRH: Center is alive? |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: Good. Just realized it? | LRH: Good. Just realized it? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: You knew that all the time? | LRH: You knew that all the time? |
PC: Apparently not. | PC: Apparently not. |
[Booklet 17 begins here with "FIRST DEMONSTRATION", "AUD: Does any of your theta bodies have any MEST bodies anywhere else?"] | [Booklet 17 begins here with "FIRST DEMONSTRATION", "AUD: Does any of your theta bodies have any MEST bodies anywhere else?"] |
LRH: Mm-hm. You knew that. | LRH: Mm-hm. You knew that. |
All right. Do you - does any of your theta bodies have another MEST body anyplace else but here? | All right. Do you - does any of your theta bodies have another MEST body anyplace else but here? |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Which one has a MEST body somewhere else? | LRH: Mm-hm. Which one has a MEST body somewhere else? |
PC: Left outside. | PC: Left outside. |
LRH: The left outside has a body someplace else, huh? Is that right? Yeah. | LRH: The left outside has a body someplace else, huh? Is that right? Yeah. |
And what's the body like? | And what's the body like? |
PC: About three inches taller. | PC: About three inches taller. |
LRH: About three inches taller? Mm-hm. What's it do normally? | LRH: About three inches taller? Mm-hm. What's it do normally? |
PC: I don't know. Doctor? | PC: I don't know. Doctor? |
LRH: Doctor? Used to be a doctor? | LRH: Doctor? Used to be a doctor? |
PC: No, is. | PC: No, is. |
LRH: It is a doctor? Oh, you got another body on earth? | LRH: It is a doctor? Oh, you got another body on earth? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Got another body on earth, or you're splitting a body with somebody? Well, that's okay. | LRH: Got another body on earth, or you're splitting a body with somebody? Well, that's okay. |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: The left side splitting a body with somebody? | LRH: The left side splitting a body with somebody? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Yeah. Okay. | LRH: Yeah. Okay. |
How about a body elsewhere? Does the left side have a body somewhere else? | How about a body elsewhere? Does the left side have a body somewhere else? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No. How about the right side? Does it have a body somewhere else? | LRH: No. How about the right side? Does it have a body somewhere else? |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: Mm-hm. The right side have a body somewhere else, huh? And where's that body? | LRH: Mm-hm. The right side have a body somewhere else, huh? And where's that body? |
PC: Well, that body is a long ways off. | PC: Well, that body is a long ways off. |
LRH: A long way off. | LRH: A long way off. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Where would you think it was? | LRH: Where would you think it was? |
PC: The first one was Mars. | PC: The first one was Mars. |
LRH: The first flash is Mars? | LRH: The first flash is Mars? |
PC: Yeah, that was what it was ... | PC: Yeah, that was what it was ... |
LRH: What a coincidence, Mars again! My, that's coincidental. It's been a coincidence now for an awful lot of preclears, except one had to break the chain - only I think he's a traitor to the cause. | LRH: What a coincidence, Mars again! My, that's coincidental. It's been a coincidence now for an awful lot of preclears, except one had to break the chain - only I think he's a traitor to the cause. |
PC: When I said "long ways off" it was Mars. | PC: When I said "long ways off" it was Mars. |
LRH: Mars, huh? | LRH: Mars, huh? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Well, you don't mind it being Mars, do you? | LRH: Well, you don't mind it being Mars, do you? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Do you have a body there? | LRH: Do you have a body there? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: What's it do? | LRH: What's it do? |
PC: First thing I get is "run things." | PC: First thing I get is "run things." |
LRH: It runs things, huh? | LRH: It runs things, huh? |
PC: Runs things, ruler, driver - not driver, no ... | PC: Runs things, ruler, driver - not driver, no ... |
LRH: Was it a ruler once? | LRH: Was it a ruler once? |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: Good old days, huh? | LRH: Good old days, huh? |
PC: No, now. | PC: No, now. |
LRH: Now? | LRH: Now? |
PC: That's what I get. | PC: That's what I get. |
LRH: Mm-hm. The machine doesn't. | LRH: Mm-hm. The machine doesn't. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Tell me, is this body alive? | LRH: Tell me, is this body alive? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Oh, the body's dead? | LRH: Oh, the body's dead? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Body isn't dead ... | LRH: Body isn't dead ... |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: ... isn't alive, yeah. Where do you imagine it could be? | LRH: ... isn't alive, yeah. Where do you imagine it could be? |
PC: Between times. | PC: Between times. |
LRH: Just sort of between times, huh? Mm-hm. There we are. Now we're getting the between-lives hunt. Okay. | LRH: Just sort of between times, huh? Mm-hm. There we are. Now we're getting the between-lives hunt. Okay. |
PC: I'll be damned. | PC: I'll be damned. |
LRH: Now, let's find out some more about this body. Is it lying on a shelf? | LRH: Now, let's find out some more about this body. Is it lying on a shelf? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Is it lying in a box? | LRH: Is it lying in a box? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Is it lying in a pit? | LRH: Is it lying in a pit? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Is it sitting someplace? | LRH: Is it sitting someplace? |
PC: Standing. | PC: Standing. |
LRH: It's standing. | LRH: It's standing. |
PC: Yeah, that's what I get. | PC: Yeah, that's what I get. |
LRH: Oh, you poor devil. It's standing, huh? Where is it standing? | LRH: Oh, you poor devil. It's standing, huh? Where is it standing? |
PC: Standing in a hall. | PC: Standing in a hall. |
LRH: Standing in a hall. | LRH: Standing in a hall. |
PC: Waiting for a turn. | PC: Waiting for a turn. |
LRH: Waiting for its turn, to what? | LRH: Waiting for its turn, to what? |
PC: Report. | PC: Report. |
LRH: Does it think you're dead? | LRH: Does it think you're dead? |
PC: Nope. | PC: Nope. |
LRH: The heck it doesn't. (audience laughter) When did it think you were dead? | LRH: The heck it doesn't. (audience laughter) When did it think you were dead? |
PC: Earlier. | PC: Earlier. |
LRH: Thought you were dead earlier. During an operation? Did you ever die in an operation? Did ... | LRH: Thought you were dead earlier. During an operation? Did you ever die in an operation? Did ... |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: ...ever think you died in an operation? | LRH: ...ever think you died in an operation? |
PC: No, I haven't had any major one, except tonsillectomy maybe ... | PC: No, I haven't had any major one, except tonsillectomy maybe ... |
LRH: Tonsillectomy? | LRH: Tonsillectomy? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: How about a tonsillectomy? Did it think you died in a tonsillectomy? | LRH: How about a tonsillectomy? Did it think you died in a tonsillectomy? |
PC: Could be. Getting it strong on that. | PC: Could be. Getting it strong on that. |
LRH: It just thinks you're dead? | LRH: It just thinks you're dead? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Okay. Sort of missing. Well, what's it doing right now then? | LRH: Okay. Sort of missing. Well, what's it doing right now then? |
PC: Waiting. | PC: Waiting. |
LRH: Waiting. How long has it been waiting there? | LRH: Waiting. How long has it been waiting there? |
PC: A thousand years, roughly. | PC: A thousand years, roughly. |
LRH: It's been in the area thousands of years? | LRH: It's been in the area thousands of years? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: It hasn't been waiting in line thousands of years? | LRH: It hasn't been waiting in line thousands of years? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Has it been waiting in line thousands of years? | LRH: Has it been waiting in line thousands of years? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No. All right. Has it been up there thousands of years? | LRH: No. All right. Has it been up there thousands of years? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Is it in good repair now? | LRH: Is it in good repair now? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Could you monitor that body from right where you are right now? | LRH: Could you monitor that body from right where you are right now? |
Could you make it do something? | Could you make it do something? |
PC: Thought I get - first thought I got on that was no, but I think I could. | PC: Thought I get - first thought I got on that was no, but I think I could. |
LRH: Oh? Could you do something to it? Make it do something? | LRH: Oh? Could you do something to it? Make it do something? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Why? Why can't you make it do something? | LRH: Why? Why can't you make it do something? |
PC: First thought I get on this is "I don't want to." | PC: First thought I get on this is "I don't want to." |
LRH: Oh, go on. Give it a nudge. Give it a nudge. | LRH: Oh, go on. Give it a nudge. Give it a nudge. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Give it a good nudge - solid nudge. | LRH: Give it a good nudge - solid nudge. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: Hit it harder. | LRH: Hit it harder. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Now, make it turn around and slug the next guy in line. | LRH: Now, make it turn around and slug the next guy in line. |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: All right, let's slug somebody else now; let's start a riot. Anything wrong with starting a riot? See, you realize it will probably get killed, don't you? Would it be bad if it got killed? | LRH: All right, let's slug somebody else now; let's start a riot. Anything wrong with starting a riot? See, you realize it will probably get killed, don't you? Would it be bad if it got killed? |
PC: Yeah, seems to be. | PC: Yeah, seems to be. |
LRH: Would it be bad if it got killed? | LRH: Would it be bad if it got killed? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: It's getting a little hunt here now; that's just fine. Would you be free if it got killed? | LRH: It's getting a little hunt here now; that's just fine. Would you be free if it got killed? |
PC: Maybe, yeah. | PC: Maybe, yeah. |
LRH: Mm-hm. You're not too worried about it, though? They ever tell it to tell you what to do? | LRH: Mm-hm. You're not too worried about it, though? They ever tell it to tell you what to do? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: They ever tell it what to do? | LRH: They ever tell it what to do? |
PC: Yeah! | PC: Yeah! |
LRH: Mm-hm. That's not as bad, huh? | LRH: Mm-hm. That's not as bad, huh? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No? Pretty good, huh? | LRH: No? Pretty good, huh? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Hm, fine. Look, if you didn't have to report back there, could you go someplace else? | LRH: Hm, fine. Look, if you didn't have to report back there, could you go someplace else? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Would you be free? | LRH: Mm-hm. Would you be free? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Well, is that bad? | LRH: Well, is that bad? |
PC: No. (yawns) | PC: No. (yawns) |
LRH: No. Well, let's take a look at this again. Where's the body now? | LRH: No. Well, let's take a look at this again. Where's the body now? |
PC: Here. | PC: Here. |
LRH: Did it just come back? The theta body just come back here? | LRH: Did it just come back? The theta body just come back here? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Yeah. Where's its body? | LRH: Yeah. Where's its body? |
PC: Here and there. | PC: Here and there. |
LRH: Where's its NEST body? | LRH: Where's its NEST body? |
PC: Here. | PC: Here. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Its MEST body is here. Is there a MEST body there? | LRH: Mm-hm. Its MEST body is here. Is there a MEST body there? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: What happened? | LRH: What happened? |
PC: It's gone. | PC: It's gone. |
LRH: Was the body gone all the time? | LRH: Was the body gone all the time? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Hm. What's it been doing, one of these perpetual stand-in-lines? | LRH: Hm. What's it been doing, one of these perpetual stand-in-lines? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: How long has this been going on? | LRH: How long has this been going on? |
PC: Thousands of years, maybe. | PC: Thousands of years, maybe. |
LRH: Thousands of years. How long ago did this NEST body die? | LRH: Thousands of years. How long ago did this NEST body die? |
PC: The number I get on it is thirty thousand. | PC: The number I get on it is thirty thousand. |
LRH: About thirty thousand years ago. Long time ago, huh? | LRH: About thirty thousand years ago. Long time ago, huh? |
LRH: Not a long time ago? | LRH: Not a long time ago? |
PC: No, thirty thousand years. | PC: No, thirty thousand years. |
LRH: Oh, that's not a long time ago, that's right. Well, is it glad to be back here? Is he stuck in an incident? | LRH: Oh, that's not a long time ago, that's right. Well, is it glad to be back here? Is he stuck in an incident? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: What incident is he stuck in? | LRH: What incident is he stuck in? |
PC: What I get is Emanator business. | PC: What I get is Emanator business. |
LRH: Got "none of your business," huh? | LRH: Got "none of your business," huh? |
PC: I said Emanator business. | PC: I said Emanator business. |
LRH: Emanator. He's stuck in the Emanator business? | LRH: Emanator. He's stuck in the Emanator business? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Well, you can audit him out of that, can't you? | LRH: Well, you can audit him out of that, can't you? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Well, tell him to come up to present time. | LRH: Well, tell him to come up to present time. |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Can he? | LRH: Can he? |
PC: First thought I get on it is no, but I think it can be done. | PC: First thought I get on it is no, but I think it can be done. |
LRH: Mm-hm. How about getting him to remember something absolutely real? | LRH: Mm-hm. How about getting him to remember something absolutely real? |
PC: (pause) All right. | PC: (pause) All right. |
LRH: Does he find something that's real to him? | LRH: Does he find something that's real to him? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Mm-hm. How about something else? | LRH: Mm-hm. How about something else? |
PC: (pause) No. | PC: (pause) No. |
LRH: Can he find something else? What was the last real thing he got? | LRH: Can he find something else? What was the last real thing he got? |
PC: Making an emanator. | PC: Making an emanator. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Overt act? | LRH: Mm-hm. Overt act? |
LRH: Mm-hm. Does he feel guilty about it? | LRH: Mm-hm. Does he feel guilty about it? |
PC: Yep. | PC: Yep. |
LRH: Some other being now answering than him, huh? | LRH: Some other being now answering than him, huh? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: How about letting him answer? | LRH: How about letting him answer? |
PC: All right. | PC: All right. |
LRH: Now, I'm going to address him very directly. You glad to be back here and off the rat race? | LRH: Now, I'm going to address him very directly. You glad to be back here and off the rat race? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Do you recognize it was a rat race? | LRH: Do you recognize it was a rat race? |
PC: I get a "yeah" on that. | PC: I get a "yeah" on that. |
LRH: Mm-hm. How do you feel? Did you know anybody else was here in this body? | LRH: Mm-hm. How do you feel? Did you know anybody else was here in this body? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Mm-hm. All right, let's rapidly check: How many others are here in this body? | LRH: Mm-hm. All right, let's rapidly check: How many others are here in this body? |
PC: Twelve. | PC: Twelve. |
LRH: About twelve? Mm-hm. How many of those are supernumerary? | LRH: About twelve? Mm-hm. How many of those are supernumerary? |
PC: (sigh) | PC: (sigh) |
LRH: How many of them could you just get rid of right this minute? | LRH: How many of them could you just get rid of right this minute? |
PC: About four or five. | PC: About four or five. |
LRH: Well, shell them out. | LRH: Well, shell them out. |
PC: Hm. | PC: Hm. |
LRH: Don't want to? | LRH: Don't want to? |
PC: Just a sec. | PC: Just a sec. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: It takes time. | PC: It takes time. |
LRH: It takes time. All right, go ahead. Kick them out. | LRH: It takes time. All right, go ahead. Kick them out. |
PC: It's been a favorite one. | PC: It's been a favorite one. |
LRH: All right. What did you get? | LRH: All right. What did you get? |
PC: Seven. | PC: Seven. |
LRH: Mm-hm, okay. What were the others from? Overt acts or something? | LRH: Mm-hm, okay. What were the others from? Overt acts or something? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Which one was responsible for holding them in? | LRH: Which one was responsible for holding them in? |
PC: What I got is center. | PC: What I got is center. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Center wanted to accumulate them? | LRH: Mm-hm. Center wanted to accumulate them? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: The stomach soul wanted to accumulate them? | LRH: The stomach soul wanted to accumulate them? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Right side wanted to accumulate them? | LRH: Right side wanted to accumulate them? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Left side wanted to accumulate them? | LRH: Left side wanted to accumulate them? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Well, there's some more of them around. Tell me is there another one here that has a body up there? | LRH: Mm-hm. All right. Well, there's some more of them around. Tell me is there another one here that has a body up there? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Don't find another one, huh? How about the right side? Does it have a body anyplace else than here? | LRH: Don't find another one, huh? How about the right side? Does it have a body anyplace else than here? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: No? Well, I guess we got you. Let's get somebody else. | LRH: No? Well, I guess we got you. Let's get somebody else. |
[At this point there is a gap in the original recording. The demonstration resumes with a different preclear.] | [At this point there is a gap in the original recording. The demonstration resumes with a different preclear.] |
[Booklet 17 says "SECOND DEMONSTRATION" at this point.] | [Booklet 17 says "SECOND DEMONSTRATION" at this point.] |
LRH: Okay. You way back on the track? | LRH: Okay. You way back on the track? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: How many million years? | LRH: How many million years? |
PC: Oh, about fifteen, twenty. | PC: Oh, about fifteen, twenty. |
LRH: Fifteen, twenty million years? | LRH: Fifteen, twenty million years? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: How about longer? | LRH: How about longer? |
PC: Hm, could be. | PC: Hm, could be. |
LRH: She's way back. Which one of you is way back? | LRH: She's way back. Which one of you is way back? |
PC: Hmm ... | PC: Hmm ... |
LRH: Center? | LRH: Center? |
PC: No, about three of me. | PC: No, about three of me. |
LRH: About three of you is way back? | LRH: About three of you is way back? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Notice that emanation, that wide hunt there? That's way back. It got pretty narrow by the time they got to this last show, last thirty-rhousand-year show. Well now, tell me, any one of these theta bodies - does it have a body elsewhere? | LRH: Notice that emanation, that wide hunt there? That's way back. It got pretty narrow by the time they got to this last show, last thirty-rhousand-year show. Well now, tell me, any one of these theta bodies - does it have a body elsewhere? |
PC: Mm-hm, two. | PC: Mm-hm, two. |
LRH: Has two. | LRH: Has two. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Which one of them? | LRH: Which one of them? |
PC: Which one of them what? | PC: Which one of them what? |
LRH: Which one of them has a body elsewhere? | LRH: Which one of them has a body elsewhere? |
PC: Two of them have. | PC: Two of them have. |
LRH: Well, which two? | LRH: Well, which two? |
PC: Oh! The left inside and the right center, the right of center. | PC: Oh! The left inside and the right center, the right of center. |
LRH: just to the right of center? | LRH: just to the right of center? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Okay, where is this left inside body? | LRH: Okay, where is this left inside body? |
PC: Sirius. | PC: Sirius. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, is it having a good time? | LRH: Mm-hm. Well, is it having a good time? |
PC: Mm-hm. Always has a good time. | PC: Mm-hm. Always has a good time. |
LRH: What do you know! | LRH: What do you know! |
Anybody got a body of yours in pawn? | Anybody got a body of yours in pawn? |
PC: No. (laugh) | PC: No. (laugh) |
LRH: Hm. That's the trouble with dames; they get exempt on these things a lot of times. (laugh) | LRH: Hm. That's the trouble with dames; they get exempt on these things a lot of times. (laugh) |
All right. Well, how about Sirius, is it nice up there? | All right. Well, how about Sirius, is it nice up there? |
PC: Mm, could be better. | PC: Mm, could be better. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Could be better. What's the planet's (snap) name? | LRH: Mm-hm. Could be better. What's the planet's (snap) name? |
PC: That's the only one I know about. | PC: That's the only one I know about. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, guess we're not going to get too much information here on the subject of. Are they all kind of stuck on the track someplace or other this way? | LRH: Mm-hm. Well, guess we're not going to get too much information here on the subject of. Are they all kind of stuck on the track someplace or other this way? |
PC: Mm, those two are pretty well stuck. | PC: Mm, those two are pretty well stuck. |
LRH: just two are. | LRH: just two are. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Well, can you free them up? Which is the first one that could be brought up to present time? | LRH: Well, can you free them up? Which is the first one that could be brought up to present time? |
PC: The right of center one. | PC: The right of center one. |
LRH: The right of center one, huh? | LRH: The right of center one, huh? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: What's holding it back? | LRH: What's holding it back? |
PC: The agreement to come here in the first place. | PC: The agreement to come here in the first place. |
LRH: Oh. Can you click that? | LRH: Oh. Can you click that? |
PC: I've been trying all day. | PC: I've been trying all day. |
LRH: What's the matter? Is it sorry it came here? | LRH: What's the matter? Is it sorry it came here? |
PC: Mm. | PC: Mm. |
LRH: Not sorry enough. | LRH: Not sorry enough. |
PC: (laugh) | PC: (laugh) |
LRH: Did it come here because it's got another one here? | LRH: Did it come here because it's got another one here? |
PC: Mm, got a couple of friends there. | PC: Mm, got a couple of friends there. |
LRH: Got a couple of friends there? | LRH: Got a couple of friends there? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Couple of your theta lines that are with you right now? | LRH: Mm-hm. Couple of your theta lines that are with you right now? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what if those left? | LRH: Mm-hm. Well, what if those left? |
PC: Probably go too. | PC: Probably go too. |
LRH: Well, which one of those won't go? | LRH: Well, which one of those won't go? |
PC: The stomach one. | PC: The stomach one. |
LRH: The stomach one won't go. | LRH: The stomach one won't go. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Why won't it go? | LRH: Why won't it go? |
PC: It's happy, I guess. | PC: It's happy, I guess. |
LRH: Is it happy? | LRH: Is it happy? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Not unhappy. Hm, one big happy family. | LRH: Mm-hm. Not unhappy. Hm, one big happy family. |
PC: (laugh) Yeah. | PC: (laugh) Yeah. |
LRH: Is that right? Evidently. | LRH: Is that right? Evidently. |
PC: I've got a nice somatic right here. | PC: I've got a nice somatic right here. |
LRH: Oh, that one is putting up a protest. | LRH: Oh, that one is putting up a protest. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Well, is that a man or a woman? | LRH: Well, is that a man or a woman? |
PC: Always women. | PC: Always women. |
LRH: It's always women? | LRH: It's always women? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Okay, what's the matter with that one? | LRH: Mm-hm. Okay, what's the matter with that one? |
PC: Doesn't want to be bothered. | PC: Doesn't want to be bothered. |
LRH: Does it hurt somewhere? Hm? | LRH: Does it hurt somewhere? Hm? |
PC: Doesn't want to be bothered. | PC: Doesn't want to be bothered. |
LRH: Doesn't want to be bothered. | LRH: Doesn't want to be bothered. |
PC: Hm-mm. | PC: Hm-mm. |
LRH: And when you try to bother it, what's it do? | LRH: And when you try to bother it, what's it do? |
PC: Demonstrates it doesn't want to be bothered by acting up. | PC: Demonstrates it doesn't want to be bothered by acting up. |
LRH: By doing what? | LRH: By doing what? |
PC: By turning on a somatic. | PC: By turning on a somatic. |
LRH: Turning on a somatic? Why don't you move in on it and boot it out of that somatic? Come on, just move in on it and boot it out of that somatic. | LRH: Turning on a somatic? Why don't you move in on it and boot it out of that somatic? Come on, just move in on it and boot it out of that somatic. |
PC: (pause) It's gone. The somatic has gone off | PC: (pause) It's gone. The somatic has gone off |
LRH: The somatic is gone. Bring it all the way up to present time. | LRH: The somatic is gone. Bring it all the way up to present time. |
PC: (pause) Something is blocking it. | PC: (pause) Something is blocking it. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Something's blocking it. | PC: Something's blocking it. |
LRH: Something blocking it ... | LRH: Something blocking it ... |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: ... from coming up to present time? | LRH: ... from coming up to present time? |
[At this point there is a gap in the original recording.] | [At this point there is a gap in the original recording.] |
[Booklet 17 omits this brief demo and skips to the next one.] | [Booklet 17 omits this brief demo and skips to the next one.] |
PC: ... the tongue and stuff removed. | PC: ... the tongue and stuff removed. |
LRH: Hac vocal ... Oh, had your tongue torn out. | LRH: Hac vocal ... Oh, had your tongue torn out. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Hm, makes difficult communication in MEST bodies. | LRH: Hm, makes difficult communication in MEST bodies. |
PC: Yeah, a little difficult. | PC: Yeah, a little difficult. |
LRH: Well, does it recognize that there is - does it have a home? | LRH: Well, does it recognize that there is - does it have a home? |
PC: No. It's sticking pretty close to the center ... | PC: No. It's sticking pretty close to the center ... |
LRH: Mm-hm. | LRH: Mm-hm. |
PC: ... and follows it around. | PC: ... and follows it around. |
LRH: Doesn't it have a home someplace else? | LRH: Doesn't it have a home someplace else? |
PC: Oh Yeah, of its own, but it hasn't been back in a long time. | PC: Oh Yeah, of its own, but it hasn't been back in a long time. |
LRH: Why can't it go back? | LRH: Why can't it go back? |
PC: Hm, kind of likes it where - being on the right of the center one. | PC: Hm, kind of likes it where - being on the right of the center one. |
LRH: Turned a somatic on. | LRH: Turned a somatic on. |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Doesn't make it very friendly. | LRH: Doesn't make it very friendly. |
PC: No, but if you have one that turns on the somatics, well, I'll leave it pretty much alone. | PC: No, but if you have one that turns on the somatics, well, I'll leave it pretty much alone. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Will leave it alone as long as it turns on ... | LRH: Mm-hm. Will leave it alone as long as it turns on ... |
PC: Not after this: I'll get after it. | PC: Not after this: I'll get after it. |
LRH: Okay. How do you feel now? | LRH: Okay. How do you feel now? |
PC: Good. | PC: Good. |
LRH: Good? | LRH: Good? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Good. Okay. | LRH: Good. Okay. |
[to audience] Somebody else here. | [to audience] Somebody else here. |
Male voice: Okay. | Male voice: Okay. |
LRH: Okay. This gentleman has very kindly volunteered. Well, how are all "you all" tonight? | LRH: Okay. This gentleman has very kindly volunteered. Well, how are all "you all" tonight? |
PC: Fine. | PC: Fine. |
[Booklet 17 says "THIRD DEMONSTRATION" at this point.] | [Booklet 17 says "THIRD DEMONSTRATION" at this point.] |
LRH: That's good. Let's get right down to the root of this matter. Which center are you running on? Which theta body are you running on? | LRH: That's good. Let's get right down to the root of this matter. Which center are you running on? Which theta body are you running on? |
PC: Right center. | PC: Right center. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Right center. | PC: Right center. |
LRH: You're running on the right center? How about the center center? | LRH: You're running on the right center? How about the center center? |
PC: Sometimes. | PC: Sometimes. |
LRH: How about the right side? Run on the right side? | LRH: How about the right side? Run on the right side? |
PC: (mumble) | PC: (mumble) |
LRH: Mm-hm. Inboard right side? Outboard right side? Outboard right side? | LRH: Mm-hm. Inboard right side? Outboard right side? Outboard right side? |
PC: Inboard right side. | PC: Inboard right side. |
LRH: Inboard. Mm-hm. You sort of shift around, don't you? | LRH: Inboard. Mm-hm. You sort of shift around, don't you? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Yeah. Any reason you have to? Can't your center be trusted? Can it be trusted? | LRH: Yeah. Any reason you have to? Can't your center be trusted? Can it be trusted? |
PC: Sometimes. | PC: Sometimes. |
LRH: Sometimes. | LRH: Sometimes. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: When did it fail last? | LRH: When did it fail last? |
PC: Which one? | PC: Which one? |
LRH: Center. | LRH: Center. |
PC: Which center? | PC: Which center? |
LRH: Right here. | LRH: Right here. |
PC: Oh, the center one. | PC: Oh, the center one. |
LRH: That's what I thought: sound asleep. | LRH: That's what I thought: sound asleep. |
PC: For some time. | PC: For some time. |
LRH: Yes. How about waking it up? Move over into it. Be it. | LRH: Yes. How about waking it up? Move over into it. Be it. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Got it? How does it feel? | LRH: Got it? How does it feel? |
PC: Pretty good. | PC: Pretty good. |
LRH: Any somatic turn on? | LRH: Any somatic turn on? |
PC: One that usually does when I try to shift over into it. | PC: One that usually does when I try to shift over into it. |
LRH: Oh, well, where does the somatic turn on? | LRH: Oh, well, where does the somatic turn on? |
PC: Through the center of the head. | PC: Through the center of the head. |
LRH: Through the center of the head. | LRH: Through the center of the head. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: What part of the center of the head? | LRH: What part of the center of the head? |
PC: TOP. | PC: TOP. |
LRH: Through the top? | LRH: Through the top? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: That's the somatic that knocked it out? Is this Facsimile One - what we ve been calling Facsimile One - getting a camera turned at you, a band put around your head and bap-bap-bap? | LRH: That's the somatic that knocked it out? Is this Facsimile One - what we ve been calling Facsimile One - getting a camera turned at you, a band put around your head and bap-bap-bap? |
PC: Could be it. | PC: Could be it. |
LRH: So how does the center like the noise whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap? Like this? | LRH: So how does the center like the noise whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap, whirr bap-bap? Like this? |
PC: Not too well. | PC: Not too well. |
LRH: Not too well. Well, are there three points up there on top of your skull or just one? | LRH: Not too well. Well, are there three points up there on top of your skull or just one? |
PC: Well, it's elongated. | PC: Well, it's elongated. |
LRH: Mm-hm, like the soft spot in a baby's head? | LRH: Mm-hm, like the soft spot in a baby's head? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Oh. Is this a lock on Fac One? | LRH: Oh. Is this a lock on Fac One? |
PC: Mm. | PC: Mm. |
LRH: Or is this before Fac One? Before? Earlier on the time track? Earlier. | LRH: Or is this before Fac One? Before? Earlier on the time track? Earlier. |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Huh? Yeah. What did you do, get killed when you were a baby? Hit over the head or something? Fall out of your crib? Hit over the head? | LRH: Huh? Yeah. What did you do, get killed when you were a baby? Hit over the head or something? Fall out of your crib? Hit over the head? |
PC: Hit over the head. | PC: Hit over the head. |
LRH: Hit over the head. | LRH: Hit over the head. |
PC: Something like ... | PC: Something like ... |
LRH: What hit you over the head? Somebody hit you over the head? | LRH: What hit you over the head? Somebody hit you over the head? |
PC: A mace. | PC: A mace. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: A mace of some sort. | PC: A mace of some sort. |
LRH: As a baby? | LRH: As a baby? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Did you hit a baby over the head with a mace? (audience laughter) | LRH: Did you hit a baby over the head with a mace? (audience laughter) |
Did you? | Did you? |
PC: Could have. | PC: Could have. |
Male voice: I doubt it. | Male voice: I doubt it. |
PC: Yeah, I don't think so. | PC: Yeah, I don't think so. |
LRH: YOU better not know, had you? | LRH: YOU better not know, had you? |
PC: No. Now that doesn't ... | PC: No. Now that doesn't ... |
LRH: Mm-hm. This looks awfully between-lives to me all of a sudden. | LRH: Mm-hm. This looks awfully between-lives to me all of a sudden. |
That center got a body between lives? | That center got a body between lives? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: Is it alive? | LRH: Is it alive? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Does it know? | LRH: Does it know? |
PC: Can't know. | PC: Can't know. |
LRH: Can't know. How about the right side? Does it have a body between lives? How about the left side, does it have a body between lives? | LRH: Can't know. How about the right side? Does it have a body between lives? How about the left side, does it have a body between lives? |
Ahh, the left side, huh? Left side. | Ahh, the left side, huh? Left side. |
PC: Left side. | PC: Left side. |
LRH: What is the viewpoint from that body? Take a look; step into the body and look. (pause) | LRH: What is the viewpoint from that body? Take a look; step into the body and look. (pause) |
PC: I have a hall of cylinders. | PC: I have a hall of cylinders. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Seemingly, plastic cylinders. | PC: Seemingly, plastic cylinders. |
LRH: Plastic cylinders, it sees some cylinders? | LRH: Plastic cylinders, it sees some cylinders? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Is it standing or sitting or lying? What is it? | LRH: Is it standing or sitting or lying? What is it? |
PC: More or less suspended. | PC: More or less suspended. |
LRH: Suspended. | LRH: Suspended. |
PC: Mm-hm, upright. | PC: Mm-hm, upright. |
LRH: Suspended upright? | LRH: Suspended upright? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: In a cylinder7 | LRH: In a cylinder7 |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Are you inside the body looking, or are you outside looking at the cylinder7 | LRH: Mm-hm. Are you inside the body looking, or are you outside looking at the cylinder7 |
PC: Well, I'm in a body looking at others. | PC: Well, I'm in a body looking at others. |
LRH: Are you in your own body? | LRH: Are you in your own body? |
PC: Yeah. | PC: Yeah. |
LRH: You in your own body? | LRH: You in your own body? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Looking at others. That body alive? | LRH: Looking at others. That body alive? |
PC: More or less suspended animation. | PC: More or less suspended animation. |
LRH: See that still needle reaction? Well, that's exactly what that says, and exactly what that means: suspended operation. Go on, kick him to life. Go ahead, move. Move some more. Move enough to knock the cylinder down. | LRH: See that still needle reaction? Well, that's exactly what that says, and exactly what that means: suspended operation. Go on, kick him to life. Go ahead, move. Move some more. Move enough to knock the cylinder down. |
PC: Hm. | PC: Hm. |
LRH: What happens? | LRH: What happens? |
PC: cylinder broke. | PC: cylinder broke. |
LRH: Okay. Now what happens? (pause) We'll give it a couple of minutes. | LRH: Okay. Now what happens? (pause) We'll give it a couple of minutes. |
(pause) What happens now? | (pause) What happens now? |
PC: Body died. | PC: Body died. |
LRH: Hm? | LRH: Hm? |
PC: Body died. | PC: Body died. |
LRH: Yeah. Feel bad? | LRH: Yeah. Feel bad? |
PC: A little bit. | PC: A little bit. |
LRH: Does it feel bad? | LRH: Does it feel bad? |
PC: It, the body? | PC: It, the body? |
LRH: No, the theta body of it. | LRH: No, the theta body of it. |
PC: Hm-trifle; it was sort of attached to it. | PC: Hm-trifle; it was sort of attached to it. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Was it told that the body would be cared for? | LRH: Mm-hm. Was it told that the body would be cared for? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: How long had that body been there? | LRH: How long had that body been there? |
PC: Thirty-five thousand, approximately. | PC: Thirty-five thousand, approximately. |
LRH: About thirty-five thousand years. That's right. All right. Were you handled and controlled through that body? | LRH: About thirty-five thousand years. That's right. All right. Were you handled and controlled through that body? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: You just realize it? | LRH: You just realize it? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Is it a good thing the body is there? Was it a good thing the body was there? | LRH: Is it a good thing the body is there? Was it a good thing the body was there? |
PC: No. Good thing it's in the condition it is now. | PC: No. Good thing it's in the condition it is now. |
LRH: Good. What do you know? You have a little doubt on that yet? Did that side keep going back to the body all the time? | LRH: Good. What do you know? You have a little doubt on that yet? Did that side keep going back to the body all the time? |
PC: No. Well, conflict there. | PC: No. Well, conflict there. |
LRH: Conflict. | LRH: Conflict. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Are we talking to some other theta body now? There is another between-lives body here. | LRH: Are we talking to some other theta body now? There is another between-lives body here. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Which is the next between-lives body? | LRH: Which is the next between-lives body? |
PC: Right outboard or something ... | PC: Right outboard or something ... |
LRH: Right outboard. Mm-hm. Right outboard. All right, this right-outboard body, where is it? Take a took at it. | LRH: Right outboard. Mm-hm. Right outboard. All right, this right-outboard body, where is it? Take a took at it. |
All right, what's it look like? | All right, what's it look like? |
PC: It seems like a blank cover. | PC: It seems like a blank cover. |
LRH: Blank? | LRH: Blank? |
PC: Light coming in from the right. | PC: Light coming in from the right. |
LRH: Light coming in from the right. What is the light coming from, a window? | LRH: Light coming in from the right. What is the light coming from, a window? |
PC: Apparently. It seems like another tank, only this one's horizontal. | PC: Apparently. It seems like another tank, only this one's horizontal. |
LRH: This one's a horizontal tank? | LRH: This one's a horizontal tank? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Well, is there a window there or a port that you look through or something? | LRH: Well, is there a window there or a port that you look through or something? |
PC: Right side is - of the tank apparently plastic. It's transparent. | PC: Right side is - of the tank apparently plastic. It's transparent. |
LRH: What comes in through there? Anything? Light coming ... | LRH: What comes in through there? Anything? Light coming ... |
PC: Light. | PC: Light. |
LRH: Anything else? | LRH: Anything else? |
PC: Vibration. | PC: Vibration. |
LRH: Are you inside the body? | LRH: Are you inside the body? |
PC: I wasn't. | PC: I wasn't. |
LRH: Let's slide in. How's it feel? | LRH: Let's slide in. How's it feel? |
PC: Moist, I think. | PC: Moist, I think. |
LRH: Moist? | LRH: Moist? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: What's the vibration like? Can you feel it? | LRH: What's the vibration like? Can you feel it? |
PC: Mm-hm, slightly. | PC: Mm-hm, slightly. |
LRH: Mm-hm. What would happen if this body moved? | LRH: Mm-hm. What would happen if this body moved? |
PC: Vibration would go off ... | PC: Vibration would go off ... |
LRH: Go ahead and move. Find out. | LRH: Go ahead and move. Find out. |
PC: Some clamps on it. | PC: Some clamps on it. |
LRH: Some clamps on it? | LRH: Some clamps on it? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Well ... | LRH: Well ... |
PC: Not exactly clamped down, but held. | PC: Not exactly clamped down, but held. |
LRH: It's held down. | LRH: It's held down. |
PC: Little bit. | PC: Little bit. |
LRH: Well, can it struggle against them? | LRH: Well, can it struggle against them? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Go ahead, make a little struggle. (pause) What happens when you struggle? | LRH: Go ahead, make a little struggle. (pause) What happens when you struggle? |
PC: Vibration gets stronger at first. | PC: Vibration gets stronger at first. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Struggle again. (pause) What's happening? | LRH: Mm-hm. Struggle again. (pause) What's happening? |
PC: Trying to move. | PC: Trying to move. |
LRH: Good. Try to move it some more. | LRH: Good. Try to move it some more. |
PC: I got the right foot free. | PC: I got the right foot free. |
LRH: Got the right foot free. Go ahead, move it some more. | LRH: Got the right foot free. Go ahead, move it some more. |
PC: (pause) Fluid seems to be going down. | PC: (pause) Fluid seems to be going down. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Move it some more. (pause) Make the grade? Can it get up? | LRH: Mm-hm. Move it some more. (pause) Make the grade? Can it get up? |
Can't get up? | Can't get up? |
PC: Doesn't seem to be able to, no. | PC: Doesn't seem to be able to, no. |
LRH: Mm-hm. | LRH: Mm-hm. |
PC: Vibrations stop and the fluids drip out. | PC: Vibrations stop and the fluids drip out. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Now what's happening? | LRH: Mm-hm. Now what's happening? |
PC: Body is rather - decomposing rather rapidly. | PC: Body is rather - decomposing rather rapidly. |
LRH: Hm, is it? | LRH: Hm, is it? |
PC: Seems dead. | PC: Seems dead. |
LRH: Much of a quiver to dying? Glad to die? | LRH: Much of a quiver to dying? Glad to die? |
PC: In a way. | PC: In a way. |
LRH: In a way. | LRH: In a way. |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Not much emotion about it? | LRH: Not much emotion about it? |
PC: Hm. No, it's apathetic. | PC: Hm. No, it's apathetic. |
LRH: Apathetic? | LRH: Apathetic? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Is this theta-body line apathetic? | LRH: Is this theta-body line apathetic? |
PC: Great degree. | PC: Great degree. |
LRH: Mm-hm. What it says here. All right, bring it back. Now ... | LRH: Mm-hm. What it says here. All right, bring it back. Now ... |
PC: Okay. | PC: Okay. |
LRH: ... what's the sensation in that side? | LRH: ... what's the sensation in that side? |
PC: There was a tenseness or - all along the side of the hip. | PC: There was a tenseness or - all along the side of the hip. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Is the tenseness still there? | LRH: Mm-hm. Is the tenseness still there? |
PC: Slight degree. | PC: Slight degree. |
LRH: Mm-hm. Tell it to come up to present time. It stuck someplace else than in this death? | LRH: Mm-hm. Tell it to come up to present time. It stuck someplace else than in this death? |
PC: No. | PC: No. |
LRH: Or is this a heck of an imposition, to knock it off and then have it come back here and tell it to be cheerful? Feel sad about that body being gone? | LRH: Or is this a heck of an imposition, to knock it off and then have it come back here and tell it to be cheerful? Feel sad about that body being gone? |
PC: It wouldn't help much. | PC: It wouldn't help much. |
LRH: Nope. Tell me something. Did they tell you originally that they'd really take good care of this body? | LRH: Nope. Tell me something. Did they tell you originally that they'd really take good care of this body? |
PC: Oh, yeah. | PC: Oh, yeah. |
LRH: Has this side been reporting back there between lives? | LRH: Has this side been reporting back there between lives? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Boy, this is that awful still needle, that you get on something like that. It - just been doing this for a long time, hasn't it? | LRH: Boy, this is that awful still needle, that you get on something like that. It - just been doing this for a long time, hasn't it? |
PC: Mm-hm. | PC: Mm-hm. |
LRH: Would you consider this a rut? | LRH: Would you consider this a rut? |
PC: Rather deep. | PC: Rather deep. |
LRH: Rather deep rut. Do you have to go through this rut anymore? Ask it if it has to go through this rut now. | LRH: Rather deep rut. Do you have to go through this rut anymore? Ask it if it has to go through this rut now. |