I was just making a comment there just a moment ago on this "ping meter."

Now, want to talk to you now about certainty. You wonder what - what certainty has to do with this general situation of Anchor Point Processing. You possibly have guessed, or you should know, where this process goes - this process of putting up anchor points and walking away from them and being in viewpoints and so forth.

I've talked to Volney, long distance, Sunday about this meter and obviously the meter is backwards. The thing should be silent where it's beeping, so on.

Now, it goes into a very specific direction and I might as well just give it to you right at the beginning, both barrels.

There actually ought to be a switch on it and one of the switches should turn it around so it'll register on a live area, or a painful area, and the other one so it ought to register only on anesthesed areas. And the only thing you'd have to do to do that, of course, is just throw the speaker onto the opposite side of the circuit.

You're working a pc up to the point where he can recover his own anchor points which make him a part of the MEST universe.

So you'd go over some preclear and you'd find your anesthesed areas, and whenever you found an anesthesed area the machine would go yeep! Well, that would give a person an opportunity to say, "My God! You're dead!" which is approximately the case.

You see, by theory - by theory now - you would not be able to share the space of the MEST universe unless you had at least four anchor points arranged as a tetrahedron out there in the MEST universe. You'd have to have at least four or you wouldn't be able to share this space. That is by theory. Supposing you find out by processing whether or not it's true.

Then - also spoke to him about - he thought he could do that - and I spoke to him about throwing a - just a standard E-Meter needle where he's got that speaker sitting there, you see? That'd make quite a machine. You'd have an E-Meter, which would just be an E-Meter, and then you'd have a ping meter alongside of it. This ping meter would have a switch up there located someplace and on one it would say pain and on the other "anesthesia." And so that it'd register on one or the other and the people could have a lot of fun with it.

Trying to get back your anchor points is one of the toughest buttons that you'd ever care to run on a concept level. Because this has to do with all loss and, according to para-Scientology, would have to do with your effort to recover all the anchor points that you've strewn back on 74 trillion years of track.

But the most remarkable part of this meter, evidently, is it will directly monitor - directly monitor this fact and it will indicate it on a meter. And on this one test of one here - a series of one - I would say that this could go on being done with this machine. I did a little more work with it and it seemed to bear out that conclusion: That he had the probe against his face and it was a null and it just stayed null until I reached over and made the connection, and at which moment - the exact moment I made the connection the machine went "ping." Okay.

The reason why a person doesn't have a memory of a thing is he thinks he can't have the thing. If you wonder why you can't remember past lives vividly, well, you had an anchor point in any one of these past lives and it immediately consisted of a body and you were dependent upon it to have a brain and that brain to think for you. And thinking and part of thinking is remembering and forecasting what you should remember.

This would demonstrate that one human being could monitor another human being's energy and it would also demonstrate that life energy was monitorable or attention units were monitorable by a meter.

All right. If that is the case, then it is very simple for you to envision that an individual's main effort would be in the direction of getting back his anchor points. This is registered in the fact that you'll find an occluded case hugging his anchor points in very close to him. How the hell is he ever going to recover his anchor points up at the corners of the MEST universe if he's holding in every anchor point he's got close to his chest?

Both of these would be extremely important in the field of science, which of course never rises above the level of gadgetry. And you would have it possible then for an individual to observe on a meter that the theta-MEST theory is correct.

Of course, that's the whole game. He'd be a very upset man if he really did recover his anchor points which let him share this MEST universe. So you'll only go into that echelon and fool with those anchor points at a level when he is able to put back anchor points as fast as he blows them up.

And of course, people who have to be told by a meter what is right and what is wrong are people, of course, who have to be told by a meter. And there's nothing much you can do with them. But this validates what they've been trying to do in radiesthesia. Radiesthesia has been getting the "ha-ha" in various circles and being invalidated because it hasn't anything to do with radio waves. It has to do with whether one human being can monitor another human being.

Therefore, we have to tackle this whole thing on a gradient scale. Let a fellow handle all the anchor points of this life, then let him handle all the anchor points immediately connected with Earth, then let him handle them connected with the solar system, then let him handle them - immediate, adjacent systems, because he has some in there, and then let him handle them on the basis of galaxies. And when he's handled them on a basis of galaxies, let him go on to handling as far out and as much as - of space he can.

Well, these doctors in radiesthesia will talk to you most learnedly and tremendously with figures and computations and everything, but they do their readings by passing their hands in the vicinity of the people and seeing what change occurs on their hands. And just between thee and me, that has about the same level of validity of knowing whether or not there's pork in Chicago by eating bacon for breakfast.

You will immediately run into the eighth dynamic as the single most important barrier to the recovery of anchor points, because the eighth dynamic consists of God and an inverted eight says, "God owns all space."

We have a level of knowingness which is acceptable to the community and the society at large solely on this basis: is can you register it on a meter?

So you see what we're trying to do and where we're trying to go?

Well, actually we have found that the human mind is liable to a certain number of errors as far as what it thinks is concerned. And that's what I want to hammer on this morning for a moment or two here, a little while, is just that. It comes under the heading of certainty.

I don't care how big a thetan gets. Nothing to me - this universe - one way or the other. If you blow it up - all right. Don't even have to bother giving me any warning about it, as a matter of fact, for the excellent reason that you won't blow it up.

Now, people want a meter to tell them what's occurring mostly because the human mind is (quote) liable to error (unquote). That's because one person has some cause for doing something and another person has a cause for doing something and they don't agree on this and their subjective realities are quite distinctly different and then there is no arbitrator.

Never announced this technique till I hung a few more up there myself. But it's rather tough on your preclear going over the hurdles on any of this type of Change and Anchor Point Processing. This is all you're doing: Anchor Point Processing. You can call it Dimension Point or Change of Position in Space, Increase of Motion, Increase of Force, whatever you want to call these processes we're doing. It's rather tough on him because you're asking him to be the size he has to be in order to handle and control the body; and yet you are asking him to go out and do tremendous things with relationship to the recovery of anchor points which are many, many times bigger, in essence, than Earth itself.

That's why people go to courts of law: not because judges are clever, not because they're smart, not because they're alive and not because they're human. They want an arbitrator. And the best judge is actually one who sits there and best assumes the characteristic of a meter: impartial. He simply pings on the right evidence, on the rules of evidence, and so forth. Well, what he's pinging on is law as it is writ or wrote. Now that's - he's a meter. So as long as they've got a meter, fine. That's a judge, you see?

Can he handle them? Well, he doesn't think so at first.

So you sit there as the auditor and the preclear sits there as the preclear, and the only reason you've got a meter between you, if you're way up Tone Scale, is so the preclear will agree with you.

Same way with Body Lifting. You have to start in by lifting the little pinkie. And when you lift that little finger then you lift the next joint. And so you go on up the line of lifting the hand and lifting the arm. Therefore, you can recover with ease the penknife which you lost when you were a kid, and you - that was an anchor point. Uncle Ben gave it to you and you're still trying to get that one back or you're in apathy about getting it back.

Therefore, the theory that says - and to which, by the way, Volney subscribes - the theory which says that you should turn that meter face away from the preclear so that he can't see it - that's wrong. Just don't let the preclear start fighting the meter. The preclear will start changing his mind all the time when he sees there's no reaction on the meter. And he'll start fighting with the meter just like somebody in court fights with the judge. Well, they don't get anyplace, except maybe contempt of court and ten days in jail. In the same way, they don't get anyplace with that meter.

There are only two conditions: There's apathy about getting it back and can't get it back.

The entire idea of judgment is an idea which is germane to the MEST universe. This is judgment, that's all. That's just the MEST universe. It has to be impartial, and so on. What it means is the most accumulated force vectors versus the other force vectors. And what you do is take the majority of force vectors and when those majority of force vectors are aligned up, of course, they will go through the lesser force vectors. And then when people no longer are able to face the idea of force, they still take the force and do the same thing with it but say they're doing something else with it.

We have one pc right here in class who is still trying to get his anchor points back, not today, I don't think, or yesterday, but who was trying to get his anchor points back out of the last life. I think he was probably trying to fish the GE's anchor points out of the last life but at any moment we're going to get this GE into present time - any moment. Probably he had some back there in the same life and same area, and these things went into a collusion and collision because the GE's anchor points are different than his own anchor points.

The majority rule is simply this: If there were twenty-nine men in a room and nine of them disagreed and twenty of them agreed, the reason why they go forward on it is not because it's sensible or just or any other thing, it's just based upon the basis that twenty men can beat up nine men. And if you think democracy has any other basis than that, you're just crawling around in the dark shadows of circuits.

Now, I wouldn't evaluate this case, but I dare say that it appeared that there were a whole flock more anchor points that had to be recovered up to a certain point; and then all of a sudden he didn't have to recover any more anchor points. The only thing that was lost there was some of the thetan's anchor points were in collision with the GE's loss of anchor points and when you cleared up the thetan's loss of anchor points, the GE's loss of anchor points didn't matter because the GE is like a puppet, it follows through on almost everything with great ease.

Majority rule is, of course, sensible if force is sensible.

Therefore, this is a problem, then, of recovery of anchor points.

Now, law simply means that the most people are going to survive if these particular force vectors are used or not used, that's all. And then the most people would have a sufficient composite force to enforce their will. Now when that gets artificialized you get a highly, highly aberrated government. When a government sets itself up to be real tough and when it runs itself contrary to the will of the people - but it's real tough - you ordinarily have a fairly good state, so long as the will of the people is just a little bit tougher than the government. But if that government successfully reduces the will or force of the people to a point where it has far more force than the composite mass of people, then, you see, the government is run for the government and it's not run for the people at all, which is bad for the people and good for the government.

Now, if you notice the phenomena, when you're doing Change Processing, of a person going out of the past and into the present on an area, you'll understand what we're - phenomenon we are trying to accomplish, recover, activate and work with.

Bad, good judgment and so forth works out in the field of force and this is a force universe and again we're into the field of motion.

He slides from here to his hotel room and it suddenly turns up that he lost his socks this morning - couldn't find them. Went under the bed and under the covers and into the drawers, and so forth, and then remembered that he didn't have any socks and finally dug them up out of the wastebasket. And this will turn up.

You notice that communication introduced into police work catches an awful lot of criminals. Good identification into police work catches a lot of criminals. Well, these things are just nothing more nor less than the MEST universe modus operandi at work. It's not necessarily the way - the best way to work things out at all. It just happens to be the way it works.

Well, is he present time with regard to that hotel room? No, he isn't. But you run hotel room to the room he's in, to the hotel room to the room he's in, hotel room to the room he's in. You don't ask him to look for anything. You don't even really ask him for what's peeling off about the area.

Now, you're going to find out that in trying to adjudicate a preclear you're going to discover that they have very often abandoned force completely and have certainties on things which aren't so. Which is to say their certainties - they've been convinced that force exists where it doesn't exist. What is not so? They think that force exists where it doesn't exist or that no force exists where it exists. That's aberration.

And I'm telling you about this particular hotel room for a very good reason. It isn't that you have to run a case at this low level but this is your entrance point. So he starts in running the hotel room and running this room and running the hotel room and this room and the hotel room and this room, and the next thing you know he's peeled off the socks and when the bellboy was mean to him and the letter he got from the family that said he was crazy anyhow and irresponsible, and he's in present time with regard to the hotel room. He suddenly realizes the hotel room is simply sitting over there. It's empty and the maid didn't do a good job on it this morning, but there it is. That's all. It's just a hotel room. It isn't a hotel room with (quote) significance (unquote).

Working out an optimum solution on the eight dynamics, one would work out what is the greatest survival potential for the majority of the dynamics. That's the best solution: one which enhances with survival the greatest number of the dynamics. Well, that's according to this society at this time, but that's a very - a very workable theory, particularly if you add into it no balderdash about reason, but just add it in on the basis of force. Which one of these forces applied will most benefit the rest of the dynamics?

Now, a hotel room with the ridges and facsimiles still hung up in it is a hotel room with significance. It is not the present time hotel room. The present time hotel room has zero significance. It's just a hotel room! That's all.

Well, your preclear has sunk below this level and he's in a complete labyrinth, a mirror-maze of logic where he can't identify forces or anything else. So he comes up with uncertainties. And we're right back here to radiesthesia. The reason people would give radiesthesia the "ha-ha!" is because somebody standing around somebody else holding his hands out in order to measure the other person's field is very subject and liable to the most gross error. It all depends upon the position on the - the sleeper, there, is the position on the Tone Scale of the measurer.

You start running a fellow into a car and out of a - into this room and into the car and into this room and into this car - into the car and into this room and into another car and into that first car and all of a sudden he's got himself all jammed up. There's roads! roads! roads! roads! He keeps getting these goddamn roads! They keep coming in under him and above him and around. There's facsimiles, facsimiles.

With a good high Step I, well exteriorized, good visio, good perception exterior, you wouldn't argue about that. He'd not only be able to measure the force on the area, he'd also be able to dissipate it. You see, it'd have to do with case levels. So we - in the absence of a Tone Scale we would have aberrated findings.

You run him and you run him and you run him and all of a sudden - poom! He finds out, he looks around and he isn't any longer fooling around with roads; he's simply behind the wheel, thetawise, of somebody else's car and it's an old rattletrap at best and he gets interested in the fact that its motor just got a cracked piston or something. That is, what's the significance of his being in that car? There is no significance for him about being in the car except it's something to look at. That's the only thing the significance is. The significance has peeled away. All of his association with cars and his connection with cars has peeled away.

Well, what's the difference between this and the mystic idea of, "Well, I know it's true and I won't become the effect of that sort of a thing because I have made up my mind so and I won't become influenced by such factors. Because force is evil and..." Here we go, see? "And the thing to do is to deny everything and run away and be one with nirvana or something," - this whole, whole mess of messy ideas.

Now, this doesn't mean it won't turn up about other classes of vehicles and it doesn't even mean that it won't turn up about other cars. You start putting him in and out of a very fancy limousine and several incidents may suddenly pick up there. It's a different class of cars entirely. See how this is?

And what is it again? Position on the Tone Scale.

So, you start going around, then, into two or three objects and in each case the object has significance, has significance, has significance, has significance, has significance, has significance, has very little significance, has a lot less significance - it's an object. And you've answered the conditions of Q and A. It is an object.

The handiest way to establish position on the Tone Scale is communication lag. Communication lag is how fast can the fellow change places. That's all a communication is: particle A to particle - I mean, particle position A to particle position B. How fast can he get from A to B and back to A again and how much certainty has he got on doing it? Because you'll find some fellows are down Tone Scale far enough so they'll say, "Yup-yup-yup-yup-yup-yup-yup." Oh yeah, they're transferring all over the place, but they don't know what they're transferring to. They've forgotten. Well, keep that in mind, too.

So, anyway, you see what we're doing?

Well, your communication lag in ordinary, everyday use would be the amount of communication the thetan has with the body and the amount of force response he could get from the body. And watch a fellow in his operation. You'll see that he will do things that will (quote) "betray him to your penetrating eye or vacuuming ear" without any trouble whatsoever.

We're peeling the significance off a geographical area, that's what we're doing.

Many things are an indication of this. Everything that's on the old Tone Scale is an indication of it, but the best one is communication lag.

Now, you may get a fellow all stripped down of significance in this life. You start the roughy of putting him in a childhood home and putting him here and putting him in a childhood home and putting him here and putting him in his childhood home, and boy, that's...

Another one - part of that - is impartiality. When he goes onto a complete lag, he's impartial. And here's a very handy one, very handy little one: He won't look at what you're saying, which is a funny, funny statement but you know what I mean by it. He won't look at what you're saying. He won't answer the same question. Now that, in effect, is a communication lag. He may answer you very rapidly but he's not answering what you ask him.

Is he in present time? No, he sees that childhood home - he may not even realize he's doing this - but he sees that childhood home with its existing structure completely changed. It's way back to when he was a kid. He's got the same roof mocked up that it had when it [he] was a kid and maybe somebody has come along since, or a tornado or something, and changed the roof utterly. He doesn't see it with a new roof. He sees it with the old roof.

Now, the ability to look at something and the ability to answer what is being asked are blood brothers. The fellow avoids looking so he avoids answering. The degree to which he avoids looking is the degree to which he avoids answering.

Does this start explaining to you what aberration there is in theta vision? Guy mixes up the picture with the scene.

There are many ways to choke a communication line. One of those ways is simply to plug it with - just stop it entirely. Another one is simply to flood it; just keep it running at such a rate that nobody ever had any chance to say anything. Every once in a while somebody wonders if I get into that communication line. The only trouble is if they only knew how much I go around and wait for somebody to say something. That's very remarkable. You'll find that'll happen to this guy or that. He'll be so accustomed - he'll have been living amongst the aborigines or something of the sort. That's a fact. He waits for people to say something and they don't say anything. And so he goes along a little bit and again they don't say anything. He's running into a comm lag all the time and he gets so that he'll fill in all the silences himself. Real silly, but this will happen. All right.

Well, of course, the fact of the matter is you can only mix up the picture with the scene the way a miner mixes up fool's gold with real gold. Any time anybody has seen any real gold, he never afterwards gets fooled with fool's gold. So you only have to do this for a pc for a little while and he'll suddenly begin to distinguish and differentiate like mad between the real universe and that.

Now - I'm not saying I'm living amongst the aborigines here in America. I have lived amongst a lot of aborigines in the world, though. These people aren't aborigines. They get a little bit older and we work on them real hard, they'll get up there though.

A lot of the people that you exteriorize right off the bat, they go out and the air right around them is so (quote) full of significance (unquote) that they see it in entirely different aberrated lines. They see it in distorted lines of all kinds and shapes and sizes. It's a weird looking scene.

Anyway, where we have a comm lag, we have an inability to look at something, and we're getting down into the basic mockery band of the Tone Scale.

They look up at the ceiling and it's the ceiling of a hospital room. Can't be a ceiling of a hospital room because they're not in a hospital. And yet there it is. That's the ceiling. And it's mixed up with the rug that used to be in Papa's den. And the chairs are the chairs they used to have at Princeton. No, I beg your pardon, you'd never exteriorize somebody who's been to Princeton.

Now, it's quite important that you be able to differentiate between the gross pretender who is practically spun in on mysticism and a good high-level Operating Thetan.

The point is - the point is (pardon me) his vision is taken up with looking at a facsimile or an energy deposit. A facsimile or energy deposit, then, is full of significance. So any scene he sees is full of significance.

Because the fellow who is practically spun in will do a mockery of the ability of the thetan. He will say he's doing these things. They do them in various ways with various communication systems. They all get around and pray for Stalin to die or something of the sort. See?

Well okay, if this is so full of significance it's probably full of danger, too. All right, so this guy goes out of his head and comes back in again and then he opens his eyes and he looks around and he all of a sudden notices that it's not a gold couch in the room, it's a green couch. He's immediately invalidated. Oh, he's sad now. He's found out he could make the same mistake, in spite of this processing, that he's been making for the last few trillion years and he's sick of it. Which is to say, he gets out and looks at the facsimile and thinks it's present time and gets the two so mixed up that he tries to act in the facsimile the way he acts in present time and it blows up on him and it's all very confusing.

And you'll occasionally hear a Step I talking, and up, and you'll swear to Christ that this sounded more like mysticism to you than you ever heard of. Oh, this is - this is terrific!

Now, a fellow who exteriorizes and doesn't do this in the immediate room will, if you process him far enough, do this at some point, some geographical location somewhere in the universe. That's a certainty. He'll do it before he gets out of this life. That's a cinch.

The guy says, "Well, I tell you - I tell you; I went over there, you see, and I looked around and this fellow was thinking about so-and-so and it was very funny. He had this ridge mechanism built up behind his back and so forth, so I just turned it over. And he couldn't think of that anymore because now he was thinking like his mother. It was very amusing." Or, "I sailed around and I landed on this planet, you know? I took a look at this planet and gee, there were all these people and they were having a big fight. And there were all these explosions around in the air and I got caught in one of them and that's why I feel kind of seedy this morning. But I'll get a few minutes of processing myself and I'll feel better." Sounds real weird. This is not in the general understanding of human affairs.

And so, you've just got to break down "What's the significance?" all the way on out by running Change Processing. You take it for all areas and all classes of things and so forth.

Well, please don't fail to differentiate between this and the person that tells you a flock of spooky ones, like, "Well, I couldn't possibly be an effect of that. No cars could hit my car. What do you mean a car would run into me? A car wouldn't run into me. It just wouldn't dare."

Fortunately it goes on a geometric progression and you get more and more areas cleared, the more areas you clear. So it goes with rapidity.

The difference between the two is, the Step I ordinarily goes up along the level and he considers processing, if somebody is going to process him, a slight adventure. I don't guarantee that he will really be sitting there being processed very well but he's perfectly willing to increase and enhance his potentials. The person at the lower end of the band won't.

What happens in each case? You simply peel off the facsimiles and start looking at what is.

The worst off at the lower end of the band will not be processed at all. They will tell you that they are - one of them said the other day, just this, "Why, I am between 10.0 and 15.0 on the Tone Scale." That's why he didn't need any processing - between 10.0 and 15.0 on the Tone Scale. Real spinner! Communication lag: very rapid responses conversationally, but they never made sense. That's what's known as "disassociation." You hear somebody talking in psychiatry about disassociation - psychiatrist doesn't know what he's talking about, but we know - the fellow isn't answering or connecting up anything he's saying or feeling with what is occurring in his vicinity, and that is disassociation.

Now, you know the moment this happens. It's a case of knowing. It's not a case of guessing. You all of a sudden know you're looking at the hotel room. You're not looking at the significance of the hotel room. See, you're not looking at this morning's adventures or yesterday's breakfast. See? See what it is?

You'll see somebody who is all the way gone in dementia praecox or some other psychiatric classification, all of which boils down to schizophrenia in one place or manic-depressive in another place, depending on what sanitarium they're in. Anyway, this manifestation is just 100 percent disassociation.

Well, that operation we call "clearing." And clearing is: wiping out the significance from a geographical area so that you can use it again as a playing field. That's all there is to it. That's clearing.

They say, "What beautiful birds there are in the trees - were you in your car this morning as you came down along the line - I have a pencil here, do you?" It has no relation. They're not relating what they're saying to the surroundings. What are they doing? They're not looking. And they've gone below the level of even looking at their own conversational flow. They don't know what they're saying. They're just talking.

So you have a relative scale of clearances. Is this fellow - this fellow is cleared on hotel rooms and houses and school rooms. He isn't cleared on automobiles, so on. It means that he still tangles up facsimiles with the present of automobiles.

Now, this person may have a real snappy answer. Don't ever mix up communication lag with just - just how fast they answer. It's a little neater package than that.

Got a brand-new type of diagnosis, haven't we? Because you take those inverted eight and you'll find out that there's a class of things in terms of geography which go along with each one of them.

You say to this person, "Well, did you have a good trip?"

So these classes of geographical locations - each one - every one has its own type of upset. And the mix-up is always the same mix-up. He confuses a facsimile with a present time observation.

"Oh yes, yes indeed. I'll be ready in a moment."

Now, your thetan, before he's in really good operating condition, is so cautious that he feels whether or not the stove is hot before he touches the stove. In other words, he puts out a beam and takes a facsimile of the stove, comes back with the facsimile of the stove and tests it. And furthermore, he's very, very cautious and he doesn't make an exact facsimile of the stove; he makes a facsimile of another kind of stove so it won't be so hot.

Well, they said something, didn't they? They answered fast.

So, that if you hear some birds singing outside, you could say to any preclear - I don't care if in his head or anything - this is a funny thing, but this works, only he isn't going to do it unless you ask him to do it - you say, "Put an anchor point out there at those birds and bring it back and take a look at it."

Well now, on a gradient scale you'll get this sort of thing: This girl came down and delivered Diana to us in Spain. And she was either pretty tired or something of the sort, but every statement addressed to her made her look about 180-degree vector, the opposite direction. She wouldn't look at any of these statements, in other words. It was on the order of' "How much - how much did you spend coming down?" "Well, things - things really aren't terribly expensive here in Spain." You see, now that's permissible. That's a permissible offbeat, but believe me it's just an offbeat. She was asked, "How much did you spend?" not how expensive things are. You get that, just that little offbeat? And all conversation with her was that way. You never got any information out of her, no matter how many angles you attacked it from.

You know that anybody can do that just on command? Anybody. I don't care what - bad his case is or anything else. He'll bring it back and he'll take a look at it. And he'll say, "It's not the same kind of birds." Yeah, he's sad about it. He didn't even dare make the same kind of birds, see. That's what he's sad about. These are the birds he - he might have taken a facsimile of these birds like you'd take a picture - another way of making a facsimile. He just mirrors it up on a bit of energy and he brings it back and he changes it so that he suddenly won't be confronted by the man-eating pterodactyls that he is sure those sparrows are outside the door. And that's the way he goes about it.

Now, I'd say there are three or four people in class who had mothers in that category. They're real weird.

Anybody can do that. You can do that right where you are right now, but I wouldn't advise you to, on account of that hammering. Okay.

You say, "Mama, can I go to the show?"

You - oh, you should test it.

"Well, were you a good boy today?" That's, of course, permissible non sequitur, but..

Now, you'll find somebody who goes out - you say, "Put out - put out a viewpoint out there someplace in front of you and then bring it back and take a look at it."

"Mm-hm."

And he'll say, "My God! I've been sitting all these years in my grandmother's sewing basket!"

"Well, did you clean up everything in the back yard?" Again, this is still non sequitur; you're still hanging on the ropes and so forth.

No, he hasn't. When you asked him to put out one of these beams, all he did - he didn't even bother really to put out a beam or take a picture of anything. He just turned over a piece of the blackness in front of him. You can take a case that is in a heavy state of occlusion and you can just simply have him reach out and start turning over pieces of blackness. He gets a different picture every time he does it. He's looking at the reverse side of these pictures. Oh, he's real cute, too. He'll turn these over endlessly.

"Well, that's fine. Now why don't you clean up the basement."

You can also make him do this, by the way: You can take the two pieces of blackness and hang it up to the two corners of the room and make it stay there without thinking - the blackness, see? It will. It'll clear away a piece of occlusion. It'll also clear away a rather chronic somatic for a while.

Well, of course, that's just downright cruelty, you think. But you were many times completely - completely fooled if you had a mama who did this, because she didn't know what you'd said. And if you'd just asked her five or six more times, the way kids learn how to do, why, you eventually would have gotten a specific answer to the question - and very often with considerable anger behind it, but you would've gotten the answer to the question.

You can take any chronic somatic and have the preclear pick up two corners of it and put the two corners of it in the two corners of the room and have it hang there without thinking. Overt act-motivators turn up immediately in this life.

You would've said, "Can I have a new pair of skates?" And then you got how Johnny down the street was awfully poor, and so on. You'd go down along this line one after the other, one after the other on questions. Well, if you just keep hammering "Can I have a new pair of skates?" she would eventually answer you bluntly on it. And it would seldom be yes. It would normally be no if you had to ask her that many times.

You want to know how to get the chronic overt act-motivator that a guy is in? Simply tell him to pick up the two corners of the blackness which he is busy staring at and fix those two corners to the two corners of the room and let it hang there without thinking just as though it were a preclear; it'll process out. It'll just hang there. That's not a good technique, but it's fun. A chronic somatic - he'll build it up again because you're probably giving him an energy starvation and he's probably keeping it around for energy, not because it hurts. He likes pain himself.

What are you trying to do? Why do they get mad? Because you re making them look! You're putting them right square into an engram. You re making them look straight through a ridge at exactly that you are there, that you are a being, that you are their child, that you have certain rights with regard to them as a parent. All of these things they have to face up to bluntly, squarely and admit your existence.

You'll find out the reason a guy turns on pain; he's rather triumphant. He can make a part of the body alive that hasn't been alive for a long time. "Boy, that's - " see, then he has to go around and tell everybody, "Look, I made this turn alive. Ha-ha! Look how smart I am. I just slashed my neck from ear to ear," or "I just busted my back," or something of the sort. Real smart. "I got it alive." It'd register on a ping meter all the time now. Okay.

They have to look at you. They have to listen to what you're saying. They have to pay attention to your needs in life. And believe me, that is too much strain for a large percentage of the population. It's just - just no - no dice. All right.

What does this tell you, then, about clearing areas? What turns up? A guy becomes certain that the area doesn't have any personalized significance; that's all. That's all there is to it. The area has no personalized significance. He's not stuck in the past anymore.

When you get a problem, then, in communication, it's a problem of sequitur - connected thought.

Has anybody drummed up the answer of; "Where are facsimiles?"

Conversation would be "talking with." And there also ought to be another word: "monversation." Philip Wylie, of course, would change that off to "momversation."

Male voice: Where I put them..

But there should be a word there in the English language called "monversation." And when you have - when you have a preclear who is telling you the weirdest and driftiest things in the world, why, you want to cross-check it against his conversation.

Anybody else drummed up this answer? Hm? You looked very cautious. You're afraid you'll be jumped on.

Is he in communication? Are you really talking with this person? Is this person really answering? What is this person's communication lag?

Truth of the matter is, that's the right answer. It's where you put it. That's where they are. They're mobile. People shift them all over the place and hide them under rocks and do all sorts of things with them. All right.

"How long does it take to get an answer on the subject which you asked" is the definition of communication lag. See, it wouldn't be how fast do you get a sound back. In this society it would be how long does it take you to get an answer to the question you asked or agreement with the statement you made or disagreement with the statement you made as you made it. That immediately gives you, if you look at it, a different slant on a communication lag, and it tells you that a communication lag very well could be fantastic. It could be years.

Where are you going to go with a preclear on Change Processing who is definitely uncertain?

I actually have received from a person a communication lag of several years. The longest circuit lag I know of was nine years. A fellow said he was going to do something and wanted an answer to a certain question and nine years later it occurred to him. And he suddenly remembered when he had asked himself the question. And it was nine years before. It took something nine years to go through that circuit.

Male voice: Start him off up close.

Well, don't miss, then, on differentiation between the Step I, simply because he's talking crazy, and the way downscale Step, simply because he sounds occasionally like something the Step I talks about. Because the person who is way downscale is trying like mad to desert that body. He's trying as a last resort to die and beat it, scram, get out, chew the body up, eat it all up and digest it or spit it out or do something with it. He's trying to deny life. He's trying to inhibit action. His whole philosophy will be that if you sit still with your legs crossed in a certain way and concentrate hard enough on your navel, you will have a wonderful result. What wonderful result is he looking for? Well, it'd be the disappearance of his legs, navel and body. That's what he'd like to have happen.

Hm?

He thinks that if he disciplines himself dietetically or disciplines himself in his daily regimen or if he sacrifices enough, why, he'll be all set.

Male voice: Start him off up close. It's up to you when he had the common agreement on MEST.

And you get this - these people with the philosophy of sacrifice; they're what keep the surgeons eating. They want to go down and sacrifice their appendix and the parents want to go down - have the kid go down and sacrifice his tonsils; and it's just - just sacrifice. You've got to give up something, see? In other words, "We'll get you out of a body a little bit," and there's two ways and this brings us immediately to this other point. There are two ways to get out of a body: one by making the body get off you and the other simply by stepping out.

Yeah, you can do it - you can do it in dozens of ways, but there's one rule that follows it along, is: Let him win.

The way you make the body get off you is very difficult sometimes, but I have - I have had this happen: I have told a thetan, "Now, you stay where you are and tell the body to get up out of the chair and walk across the room." And the thetan stayed there - very rare. The guy also could Step I. But this was very interesting. He watched the body walk away. Therefore he got distance between himself and the body.

Now, you find guys who are in bad shape very often get upset about letting somebody else win. It's win-lose. And they will inadvertently keep somebody from winning. Asking somebody to win in "playing" auditing is about the same as playing chess. If you've got a guy who feels big enough and tough enough and strong enough and patronizing enough so that he can sit across a chess table and let somebody else win game after game, you've got a guy that can audit like mad. But if you have a fellow who would be real upset if he got beaten at chess, this guy sooner or later will make a mistake in auditing. He won't let the other fellow win.

And the other way is a part of the same class of ways, is to digest the body thetawise. You eat up its nose and you eat up its ears and you eat up its shoulders and its hands and its feet and you just digest it, that's all. The thetan is running Q and A. He's trying to turn the body into a thetan.

Auditing goes by wins. What is "win"? That's just "become certain of" - is a gradient scale of win. What's "failure"? Failure is a gradient scale of death. What's "win"? It's just a little bit of certainty. To let somebody have a little bit of certainty is all he's got to do.

Now, you'll see this more times than you can count, on preclears. And they're perfectly willing to run any kind of a technique that'll permit them to turn the body into a thetan - in other words, make a ghost out of it if possible - or just eat it up and make it disappear.

Now, all you've got to do with a pc that's having the roughest kind of a time you know is just let him win a couple times or three times or six times. And if you keep on letting them win on up the line, gee, they get to be about nine and then they get to be about eighteen and then they get to be about twenty-seven feet tall. And that's all there is to it. So if you forget everything else about auditing that you know and you're facing a case that isn't progressing, just remember this: Just let him win a few times.

Every once in a while you'll find somebody real mad at a body - you - real mad at it. If he can't exteriorize easily, he'll just start in running concepts which simply strips the energy out from in between the MEST molecules in the body. He'll just take all the energy out of the body. He'll take everything that's trying to hold that body together out of the body. He'll just run a process which eventually will make the body fall to pieces. He'll also submit himself to electric shock and every other doggone thing - anything to get rid of that body; boil it down, melt it away.

How can you make him win? Well, just let him be certain. Let him be certain of something. Let him obey you. Do him a favor of letting him obey you by being certain of something.

But the one which you've got to watch on a preclear - you'll run into this once in a while - is the surreptitious effort to pretend to be processed as the excuse for digesting the body thetawise so that it'll disappear.

He's been beaten down, perhaps, by not being able to follow out directions he's been given. You might think it's in quite the reverse. You may think that it's because he hasn't been permitted to be self-determined. No sir, low on the scale that's an entirely different thing. At Homo sapiens' level it's an entirely different thing. It's simply this: It's just being permitted to obey. How low can you get to get a tone rise? Being permitted to obey.

And the other one you have to watch for is the person who is trying to turn the body into a thetan. Because both of them are real dogged and both of them are real down Tone Scale, and both of them have something wrong with their communication lags. Now, they're very easy to identify.

Actually, everybody is in a very helpful state of mind. They get driven out of it because nobody'll let them help. Same way, you can always find a psycho who's - who can help something. A psycho can always help something. If you let him help anything a tiny little bit, he'll feel better. And if - you'll find that he can help something a whole lot, he'll get well. That's a keynote to it.

This is weird business though, this business of digesting the body, and so on. Again we have the test of this: communication lag.

Old Homer Lane walks into the sanitarium and finds this madman in a raving state in a cage. Everybody that'd come near this madman, he'd tear them to pieces. Little Homer Lane slid into the cage and here was this raving thing plastered with long hair and excreta and was about ready to tear anything to bits. They'd forbidden Lane to go in there because they said nothing could be done and he had argued them into letting him just go through the place. And he slid inside the door and he said to this fellow in a very quiet voice, "I have heard that you could help me." And the madman said, "How did you know?" That's all. That was a cured case.

I'm inviting you to look, in other words, on an upper-scale level, inviting you to take a good solid squint at the operating condition of a preclear and to differentiate between the manifestations of a Step I and the manifestations of somebody who would be a communication level, oh, E or F or G. Because there's a similarity. You'll notice the similarity.

Now nobody, of course, followed that out or, I suppose, even followed Homer Lane's cases or activities on the subject because nobody is doing it today.

Also, the complete friendliness of an Operating Thetan is mocked low on the Tone Scale with an ARC which is a complete identification.

But once in a while in a big emergency, somebody will take ahold of a psycho and put his hands on a hypodermic needle or something of the sort and say, "Do this," and the guy is sane from there on. He's been permitted to obey!

People will talk down there about "Now, I am your friend." Boy, anymore when anybody says that to me, I kind of jump sideways a little bit and quiver slightly and look for the nearest exit. Because everybody who has cut my throat in Dianetics or Scientology always started it out with that line - always - "I am your friend." People who are my friends have never said so - just their use of the phrase is enough. This is friendship used in business, too, and all of that. That's a low-tone mockery of this thing.

Well, remember when you get a case that is kind of shaky and bad off and you don't know quite what to do for him right off the bat, you've always got a safe entrance point on the case. Just let them do what they can do. Let them win.

Now, the other point I want to make right on this same groove - the low-tone mockery - there's that little band down there, from 2.0 down to 0.0, actually mocks manifestations which are way high on the scale and which are freely used. The difference between is high on the scale they're used by looking and low on the scale they're used by thinking.

How do you let them win? By letting them do what you tell them to do. How simple. They win when you do that. They become certain then. They become certain at least of one thing: They're doing what you tell them to do and that's a big certainty. See how certain that could be?

All right, ARC. Now, what is the most complete ARC there can be? The most complete affinity, the most complete agreement and the most complete communication there is would be that ashtray and that ashtray that are both the same ashtray. That would be the most complete ARC there is.

Well, now there are very low levels of operation in this and this is not the lowest level of these operations but it's getting down there.

There's nothing wrong with ARC as long as you still can use all sides of the answer. A person who has force and can command force has nothing to fear from ARC. But a person who is trying to get along with no force, can generate no force, collapsed bank, can't work, and so forth - when he starts in using ARC, it just goes all the way down the Tone Scale.

I was just demonstrating this point this morning. I told the preclear, "Now, sit in the chair," which the preclear was doing. "Now, look at me," which the preclear was doing. And the preclear felt a little better. I told the preclear to do exactly what the preclear was doing. And I said, "Go and sit in that other chair," see? "Now, sit down in the other chair and take a look at me." The preclear did; a little more certainty.

You cannot be right and be human. Remember that. Because your Step I will find it out. Your Operating Thetan will find it out. He can't be right and be human. The whole cult of being human is based on being slightly wrong. It is not polite to be right.

What had happened to this preclear?

It's just like the - it's just like International Business Machines with their big motto all around the place: Think! You know, it's a wonder to me that organization is still operating. But I asked a salesman in it about it one day and I asked a mechanic shortly afterwards about it, and they both gave me the same answer; it was a very easy answer: "Why, after it was there a couple of days we never noticed it and you called my attention to it now. That sign has been hanging there for two years and I don't think I've seen it the whole time." They just tuned it out.

The only thing that happened to this preclear - this preclear wasn't bad off. I was just demonstrating a point. But something had happened to this preclear in that - had not been able to obey enough auditing orders, had been in groups where there were more auditing orders than she could obey. And you immediately had, not trouble, but you had a growing uncertainty. She couldn't obey. See, she couldn't do these things. Well there's a level of entrance. Now, you just tell a preclear to sit in one chair and then sit in the other chair and then sit in the first chair and then sit in the second chair and then sit in the first chair and then sit in the second chair - I mean, with their body. And it's fascinating. They get better.

But you can't be right and be human. T'ain't polite to be right. You come down the street, you say, "How are you?" And the other fellow says, "Uh, I'm all right this morning. Uh ..." Supposing he said - you walk up to some fellow, to some sad apple - some Homo sapiens down here on the street walks up to the other fellow and says, "How are you?" and the other guy says, "I feel wonderful! I have never felt better for years!" Oh, the other guy goes into apathy. Of course he's about to be et.

In the first place, they're going through Motion Processing with their body and they are winning because they're doing what you say and what they're doing they are very certain of.

You're sitting at a table, you see, and this fellow spills some stuff in his lap or something of the sort and you're supposed to not notice it. You saw it! Well, but you're not supposed to look, you see? Well, it's sure wrong not to look any day of the week when you have to restrain yourself from looking.

Now, this technique of flopping the hands is no good as a technique unless it is done to the point where the person becomes suddenly certain of the fact that they are flopping their own hands. See, a technique is no good just to flop the hands. This was the missing ingredient in all processing: certainty. Flop-flop-flop-flop-flop-flop-flop- flop-flop-flop - this is not doing anybody any good, stimulating his muscles or anything else, till all of a sudden you ask him, "Now, all right, do it until you find out who's doing that."

Everybody goes around wearing clothes. Now, that's very peculiar. They wear a certain kind of clothes and the clothes are designed to be practical and so on and everybody thinks they need clothes and so forth. And all these reasons - you know darned well after looking at aberration, they're wrong as can be. You can't be right and be human.

And the guy does it: flop-flop-flop-flop-flop-flop. "Ha-ha, I am." That's all. That's the end of workability of the technique. Just made him certain that he was making his hands flop.

So people who go on with communication level at the lower end of the band consistently and continually and so forth, just have to - it isn't that it's bad to do this, you understand. We're up above the level where we have to worry about the contagion of aberration. I'd better tell you that if you haven't thought of it already. We don't have to worry about the contagion of aberration when you can blow up the ridges on which it accumulates. To hell with it.

And what do you know! That's a big jump up with a lot of cases. They can make their own hands flop. Fascinating! They're able to do something with the body. All their life other people have been doing things with this body, but they just never have. They're in apathy about making the body do anything so it walks around obeying a flock of circuits: eating, sleeping, flopping, sitting up. They're not in command of it. Their first entrance of command as a body would just be in making it do something and know that they were making it do it. And their second entrance of command would be as a thetan. As a thetan they put out an energy beam. Who put it out? They did, of course.

But remember that you can throw in a circuit that will operate perfectly well. It'll just do a beautiful job. But you don't have to believe the circuit. You could say a man's deterioration begins when he starts believing his own circuits.

Now, Ridge Running every once in a while produced this technique, if you knew how to do Ridge Running - earlier SOP - if you knew how to do it and didn't get anybody into trouble with it and if you did it the first way it was outlined, not the way the originators of Ridge Running began to do it afterwards. They came over and we beat it apart and they said, "Well, this is the way we ran it." And I took it down verbatim. And I saw them use this on a pc just within twenty-four or thirty-six hours and they were doing an entirely different job.

Out West they used to say, his deterioration began when he started believing his own lies. Same thing, this man starts believing his own circuits. He sets up a circuit that agrees politely, that doesn't correct the grammar and communication of people he's talking to. He knows that their reasons which they're offering are completely specious; he never says they are. Never follows an overt line. He's just polite, you see? He's just as polite as can be.

Ridge Running as it was laid down at that time was done exactly - was put down in that SOP and is workable.

You can't be right and be polite. You can't be polite, by the way, and be sane. But you've got to be polite to be human. Manners is the whole system of restraint.

All of a sudden, if a fellow does that, and if he does it well, your pc is liable to come to the conclusion that "You know, I can control this body." Terrific, terrific conclusion. Lasts too. They just - the case just breaks right straight out of a low level into an upper level.

And this business of looking for the center button, center button, the center button, figure-figure-figure-figure- figure-figure-figure is all very well, but the center button is right there in plain sight, is restriction - restriction in perimeter. You want to know all there is to know about aberration in one breath, why, it's just that: restriction in perimeter - limitation of space. And that's all there is to fun, too. Don't overlook that side of the button. People who worry too much about this are apt to look at the other side too much. They say, "Restriction is all bad." No, it's not. There is no fun without restriction.

But how good is it? Well, it's handling energy so it's not terribly good. And it goes up to that point and then it quits. It just goes up to a conclusion, a certainty in other words.

But politeness is restriction, which could be fun but is generally just completely nauseous because it's trained into you like mad with practically torches and swords when you're a little kid. You're supposed to sit still and listen to the grown-ups talk. I could make you all very restive by just going on with that theme because that's very centralized as a button. It's restricting the motion of a child. Okay.

Now, when you've achieved all the certainty there is to achieve with a technique, believe me, you've achieved all the technique can do.

When we are operating, then, all of this has to do with - all the way down the line, the top of the scale and the bottom of the scale - has to do with motion. From the scale A level communication: very rapid, sequitur; and G (bottom): slow or never. Between those two you merely have a gradient scale of communication response, communication lag. What is the communication index of the person? It's that scale, and that will tell you his sanity, his ability; tell you all about him.

Therefore, when it comes to clearing geographical areas, you have an expanding certainty, so you've answered that condition of process. He becomes certain finally that there's no significance to any of the places he might inhabit on Earth. And then he becomes more certain on the subject of the solar system and then he becomes more certain on nearby systems and then finally galaxies, and so on, and he gets certain all the way up the line.

All right, now let's look again at that scale and see that we have from A to G nothing more nor less than the shift of a particle from one point in space to another point in space and back to the first point in space. That's all you've got, is just the movement of a particle from a point in space to another point in space and back to the first point in space. That's what you've got. That's all you've got. And that is motion.

What's he certain of? He's certain that there's no further significance upon them, not that he is there. Now, get that straight. He's also certain he's there. But that isn't what is - we're looking for. We're not precisely headed at that in the early stages of this process. We're certain it doesn't have any significance; that's what we're heading for, so we have a negative gain.

And the total definition of force is the motion of a particle. And so you can marry together right there communication and force and know why a person who is aberrated can't work. He can't exert or direct effort.

Now, the positive certainty on it is the one which comes with constant drill.

Well, his inability to exert or direct effort is - immediately shows up in his inability to immediately direct communications because they're the same thing. They're particles in motion-direction-direction and motion. You see that?

Do you know that an expert marksman has a certain feeling of competence when he stands up with a rifle, draws the bolt back, slams the bullet home and pulls the trigger? He knows he's going to hit the bull's-eye. You want to get that same feeling instilled into your thetan. You want him, when he puts up an anchor point, to put up an anchor point - pam! Is it there? Believe me, it's there! And it'll be there until he takes it down. Or some other son of a gun comes along and takes it down. Anyway...

So in order to bring somebody up the point of the scale, you should be able to increase his communication speed; you should be able to increase his ability to handle force, and both of these things are entirely dependent upon his ability to take from position A in space to position B in space and back to A in space.

Precision of geographical location - just as precise as hitting a target with a bullet. He can put one right there and it'll stay right there and it'll stay this far apart from another one right there. See? So we've got to stretch certainty

The certainty with which he does this is the certainty with which he's moving the particle, which merely means the precision with which he can move the particle - the precision with which he can put it at that spot A and move it to that spot B and back to that spot A, just the precision with which he can do this. And if he can do this precisely, he can communicate and he can exert force. And that's all. There's no other - no other riddle there.

All right, we've got certainty and certainty. There's a certainty something isn't there which is wiping out the significance, and certain that something is there which is the viewpoint, anchor point or the thetan. See, he can put a viewpoint - he - the thetan can be in one corner of the room and put a viewpoint in another corner of the room and see with it. Or the thetan can be at a point of the room and see with it or he can simply throw up anchor points and not - and see them from where he is.

The precision with which he can fix a few anchor points around - you'll have people tell you, "Well, I can't quite get the anchor point into the corner of the room." That's just an index of how well he can fix that point.

So you've got this certainty of geographical location. Now, if he's avoiding geographical locations, he doesn't know what he's avoiding, he tends to become inaccurate in his placement because he's afraid he will accidentally hit an area which contains a great deal of significance. We got that?

You see, in order to move something from point A to point B you have to be able to get to point A. And if he can't quite get to point A, he's really not moving from point A to point B. He's not quite looking, in other words. All right.

Now, if you can imagine a bull's-eye which has a rounded face made out of very, very heavy bulletproof, uncrackable steel, and we start throwing small light BBs at it, and we're going to hit it right square in the middle and yet the middle of it is so fixed that every time a BB hits it, the BB deflects and flies off to some other corner of the target, we've got approximately the same condition of a thetan trying to put up an anchor point where he's trying to avoid looking.

Now, there are many variations of this. Let's take the corners of a cube and let's number the corners of the cube; and let's number them, the upper four: one, two, three, four and the lower four: five, six, seven, eight. Then it would be important, if a person were to make space and remake space, for him to move a particle from one to two to three to four to five to six to seven to the eighth, wouldn't it? And if he could move a particle through all those spaces very easily, why, he'd be in pretty good shape, wouldn't he? I mean, he could move it precisely, and he could leave it there as long as he wanted, and it would remain as bright as he wanted it to remain, so forth, through all these eight spaces. Boy, could he make space.

This fellow just never seemed - can seem to remember anything about his home state. His home state - let us say - his home state is Illinois. And he just can't seem to remember whether it's Terre Haute or Chicago there in Illinois. It's just very hard for him.

Well now, the beginning of that drill is you'd use MEST, which is holding out some nice anchor points for you anyhow, and you simply take a particle in - just number the corners of a room, the upper corners of the room: one, two, three, four and the lower corners of the room: five, six, seven, eight. It'd be the ability, first, to move one particle - himself sitting in his body, you see - move one particle through one, two, three, four and then through five, six, seven, eight.

He'll tell you, "Well, my whole childhood is occluded." What's he looking for? Well, I tell you. Once upon a time he and another kid robbed a store and they buried the loot, which consisted of some bonbons, in the back corner of a pasture. And Papa did a lot of talking about going to hell if you sinned. And the local cop there was something terrifying. So they didn't want Papa to find it and they didn't want the local cop to find it, so it wound up with them not daring to go near the place.

Now, when people are talking about "my thetan is over there," you know, I mean they're sitting in their body and saying, "the thetan is over there," and all that sort of thing, of course, they're not where the thetan is.

Now, that meant that the whole farm got kind of occluded when a few other like incidents happened in it, you see, and the farm kind of slopped over into the local town and that slopped over into the local people. And all the time we're enlarging this deflector face on the target, you see? And this slopped over into the whole state of Illinois and there went his occluded childhood - occluded but good! Every time he tries to fire or recover or do anything with an anchor point in Illinois, the thing flops out of his hands. He can't handle it because he doesn't dare look at Illinois. He doesn't want somebody...

What they're doing is moving a form around. Well, that is actually the lowest end of the scale, the mockery band of what a thetan really does, and it's also the highest end of the scale. After a while your thetan isn't going to fly around and you'll actually come up against a bumper plate in processing. If you think your thetan is just going to fly around from place to place and position himself in these places for ever and ever and ever... You've got to get him up to a point where he's got terrifically precise and great speed - precision and speed in fixing points in space and moving from one to the other himself

Now, this is why guilt was so bad to Sigmund Freud. People were so afraid that somebody else would look - you know, find out - that they themselves couldn't look.

You start in the process, then, by having him move a point around in a cube of space. And then you would go through - if you weren't too successful with just Change Processing right off the bat, which is your first recourse, always - he would move into this making space by just moving a point around the corners of the room. You just keep moving this point. You'd do that for a little while and then you would go into Change Processing and you would finish up by having him toss viewpoints around with which he could look. His viewpoints, then, get to be very precise. Do you follow this?

Therefore, when he would crack the fact that somebody felt guilty about something, he would get a resurge of case. But just between us, kind of privatelike, how the hell he ever did this I'm sure I don't know, because I've worked Freudian analysis. And by freeing up a fellow's own guilt - if you were to go back overtly and free up somebody's guilt, you would first have to free up his trying to keep others from looking. And Freud didn't know a single thing about looking or anything of the sort, and so the guy's guilt was pinned down and that's why they went to psychoanalysts for two years and never got any results and that the doctor always said, "Well, the patient came too late." That is the motto of all analysts: "They came too late."

Then your optimum process for any case would not be just straight Change Processing, which can be very brutal. It would just be a short, rapid drill on moving things around to the various points of the room. And every time he'd made an excursion of the various corners of the room, or every few times he'd hit them at random one corner to another (he's gone from five back to three), put one on the body and you get your introversion - extroversion on this preclear. See?

And you say, "Why is it that 23 percent of your patients, doctor, commit suicide within three months after completing an analysis or during an analysis?"

And you do so many points of the room, and then do - put one on the body. And then do so many points of the room, and then put one on the body again, and then do many - so many points of the room, and put one on the body again.

"Well... Who, for instance?"

Then you start shifting him from the right side of the building to the left side of the building, why, you would get him out into space, so that he's actually moving into one space and then into the other space and into another space. Well, after a while if his uncertainty on that is too great, you'll have to bring him back in and have him find the four corners of the room again with a moving point. So this is an advanced type of processing. All right.

And so you name three or four and he takes the first one and without it - without realizing that he's being hilariously funny, he said, "Well now," he said, "that one came to me too late."

Another part of a variation of this technique would be to set up two chairs, one facing the other, and you have him sitting in a third chair. "Be behind the first chair and then behind the second chair, and behind the first chair and the second chair."

"And who was the next one?" you say.

Well, a case that's down the line a bit will set up a circuit to do it for him. So you want to watch that. Don't let him get bored. Because he wants to be sure he's not looking at a facsimile, so he'll set up a circuit that'll just look at the facsimiles and he'll get foggy on you. You won't know quite why he's getting foggy unless you realize that he's got a circuit doing it for him now and he's using facsimiles, not the real thing. But he's not sure, he's not sure that he isn't just doing what he did before, you see? You better change and make new the scenery he's stepping behind.

"Well yes, that boy, he came to me much too late. If he'd come to me earlier I could've done something for him."

Well, the best way to do that is just turn the chairs around and drop them over on their sides, see, and push them over on their faces or turn them on their sides. And then after he's done that several times, if you're just being behind one chair and behind the other chair, and behind one chair and behind the other chair, and behind one chair and behind the other chair, then turn them around so when he's behind them, he's being pointed at by their feet. This is a new and novel arrangement, you see. Make new and novel arrangements when you're doing close-up processing of which you want him to be very sure. Every few times, every few shifts, make new and novel arrangements. Okay?

"Oh, and this next suicide?"

A preclear will set up a circuit which will perform this activity for him after he's been processed for a while because you're dealing with a case which doesn't dare be in places so he's going to use every mechanism in his mind to keep from being in the places you say. If he can make it automatic, he will. So you've got to vary your process enough to do that.

"Well, it was the same case there, the same case there. A three-year-old child, or a five-year-old child, came to me too late."

Now, remember to get in your certainty on this. That's quite important. And where he gets confused is he thinks he's only running the time when he did it before or he isn't sure that's today.

They never see any humor in this, but they go on and tell you this all the time.

Now, you can take a case and run extroversion-introversion on them this way: "Be in the room where you were this morning; Be here in the body. Be in the room; Be in the body. Be in the room; Be in the body. Be in the room; Be in the body. Be in the room; Be in the body. Be in the room; Be in the body."

Too late be damned! Too late has nothing to do with it and neither does a patient's own guilt. He's just trying to keep somebody else from looking. That's what guilt is: "I don't want them to look. I don't dare look because if I look I'll set an example for them, damn them, and they'll look," and so on.

He'll all of a sudden go kind of pop! pop! about that room, and a lot of things will blow up about that room. See how that would be?

You always get the murderer returning to the scene of the crime to make sure that nobody else is looking. Well, the reason he goes back to the scene of a crime is to help the police look elsewhere. Fact of the matter is, the New York police have a motto: The man who finds the body 80 percent of the time killed the body. All 80 percent. These guys have to go and make sure that nobody else looks. And that's what a fellow who is guilty is doing. He's making sure nobody else can look.

Now, I've run this on a preclear and put him in his car. His car was sitting right outside. But he'd never ridden in the back seat of his car, so I put him in the back seat of his car. He couldn't get that confused. Put him in the back seat of his car and put him back in his body, and back in the back seat of the car and back in the body, in the back seat of the car and back in the body.

All right, you take some guy who's sold on the idea of a guilt complex inside of himself and now you're having him as an auditor audit a preclear and asking the preclear to look. Oh, no, you don't. Because he'll find some way or another to keep the preclear from winning.

And all of a sudden there was a resounding metal clank. He just got through pulling free from, really, hundreds and hundreds of hours of driving in that car. And when he pulled free from it, he pulled free from the first accident he had ever had and it was a resounding clank, believe me. He'd been sitting in a car for years with that accident keyed in, you see? Well, this keyed the whole thing out just as nice as you please.

How could the preclear win? By looking and being sure he's looking and what the geographical location of what he's looking at. That's all.

Now, you see how you'd do that? Make sure he's certain and change it and make it new for him often enough and, of course, as I told you yesterday, try to match up his dynamics. And then remember that he's trying to put a mock-up out; he's trying to put anchor points out.

Now, stripping the significance off is making nothing out of it and being sure they are there is making something out of it, and by taking these two things apart simultaneously on geographical locales, you achieve a certainty out of a maybe.

Now, if you were to send him to eight consecutive places, as pinpointing, you'd be making space. We're going to go into that a little more this afternoon. But remember that if you send him to two places, you're getting no dimension. You're getting just two different places.

And the whole universe becomes a maybe because people have to avoid looking at something because all these geographical locales have a significance. But the fact of the matter is, they don't have any significance here in present time,

But if you're going to make space with this, you have to send him to about four, at least. And he'll get the sensation of space and he'll get more space.

You'll find your pc is running away from the galactic police of something or other. She's some dear old lady of 58 or 68, something of the sort, and she never for a moment has ever given any thought to space opera, and you get her on a machine and the next thing you know she's running away from the galactic police of Arcton. So you just kind of run "running away from police" one way or the other, and what do you know, the case has a tendency to bust up. She's guilty somewhere in the universe, and everybody is guilty all up and down the time track. So therefore, they don't dare go back and look at the area which they don't want anybody else to look at.

And remember if you're drilling him with chairs in a room, or something like that, to shift them around in position once in a while so that he doesn't get too bored or too tired with it. Of course, it doesn't much matter what you do to him with this process, he'll just keep on getting better.

In the past? Why, so help me, it's been ten, twenty thousand years since the galactic police of Arcton were after this old lady. They've forgotten all about her. The case records have been blown to atomic dust this long while in the bust up of the Arcton Empire. Nobody cares.

Do you know that today they only keep credit records for one year. The worst, worst deadbeat in the country, unless he gets notorious - completely notorious - he goes to the big credit finance companies on automobiles, or something like that and he just - he had a car repossessed, they had a lot of trouble, he skipped with it, they had to go and send a skip man after him, return the car and sell it at a terrific loss. He goes back sixteen, eighteen months later and puts in his application to buy a car on credit; they sell it to him. Why? They don't keep records over a year. Records are too voluminous. It isn't worthwhile because most people realize they keep records so much longer and they never go back through the same route where there's been trouble. The people themselves police out of existence overt acts on the subject of credit. Isn't that interesting?

Well, let's look at your pc. He thinks he's wanted and guilty all over the confounded universe if his case is occluded. And he isn't. But to realize he isn't would, of course, be a terrible shock and blow to his pride because being wanted by police is a compliment to one's dangerousness.

But he'll [you'll] just have to take this in stride with your pc. And by running these geographical areas out, remember that you're stripping off the certainty which he had on the fact that it was significant and you're getting rid of that, so he knows there's no significance - that's the nothingness certainty - and you're getting the fact that he is there and is looking at it as the positive certainty.

When he first starts in he isn't going to have any certainty on anything.

What do you do with a case that has a very, very poor visio from inside his head? I mean, he can't close his eyes and look at the room - guy this bad off. What do you do? I'm just saying that jokingly. Hardly anybody in the human race dares to do this right now.

What do you do with this fellow? Well, golly, he's not certain he's inside his head, is he? So you better make him sure there's a body there because he probably doesn't realize it. That's funny, isn't it? But he probably doesn't realize it.

So, you can hit this on a gradient scale of where is he certain. And if you fool around for a little bit - not very long - on the case and you find the right inversion, the right dynamic he's inverted on, that is, what he's - what he really should have certainty established on first, his case will go just wham! wham! wham!

But if you start him out in some fashion or another so he can't win - you say, "All right, take a look at the moon...” And the guy comes in, he comes in for an appointment with you, and you tell him the first moment (he's sitting in a house that's got sixteen roofs above his head), and you say, "All right, look at the moon”, - the moon is on the other side of Earth too - he knows he can't do that. See, he just knows he can't do that, so he lost.

Now, if you tell him to take a look at one side of his body and then to step out and take a look at the other side of his body and step out and take a look at one side of his body, he'll find out something. He'll find that he gets some kind of a vague impression, so he's at least trying to do this.

Now, if you follow introversion-extroversion as a technique, you'll have a little more success. And if you follow just his connection, regardless of where he is - just neglect where he is with regard to his body completely - and say, "Feel - feel - now get - get the idea you've got a right foot. Okay, now, you can feel that? Now get the idea you got a left foot. Feel that? Good. Now let's feel the upper right-hand corner of the room. Now let's feel the upper left-hand corner of the room. Good. Now let's see if you've got a right hand. Feel that? Okay. Now you got a left hand. Feel that? Okay. Now get the lower right-hand corner. Now get the lower left-hand corner." Here you go, see?

Probably wouldn't occur to you that this - that there is such a simple level of certainty. The guy after he's done this a few times is liable to start looking at his body rather curiously. You've done introversion to extroversion. Introversion to extroversion.

Now, you start chasing anchor points all over the room and you, of course, are going into a very fundamental operation.

A thetan puts out anchor points just to have space or he puts out anchor points which are actually viewpoints and uses them to look with or he is himself at a point, a geographical location of a point, in order to look. When people become uncertain of their geography, they become uncertain.

What is the only thing a preclear can be uncertain of? The only thing he can be uncertain of is geography. That's all!

Now, follow this one: If you want to take the implosions off a case fairly rapidly, put him over a road with which he's familiar and then a road elsewhere with which he's familiar and then a road with which he's familiar and then a road elsewhere that he's familiar. Boy, you're really getting action. Trains will start running off - cars, trains, airplanes, all kinds of things - because the MEST universe is making him move and telling him he's moving and he as a thetan has a hell of a time trying to do that.

When he tries to approximate the MEST universe by moving in gradient steps down a highway to get the sensation of motion, he's pulling off quite a trick. It's much easier to be simply at the other end of the highway.

Well, what about this idea of looking at the target and having the glance slide off? We look at the target and the glance slides off.

That is the same of don't - as "don't dare arrive."

What is the cycle of action of the MEST universe? The guy is born, he lives for a while and dies. The cycle of action. Creation, growth, stagnation, decay and death is the cycle of action of this universe.

If this fellow can't arrive, he's afraid of dying. If this fellow is afraid of dying, he's afraid of arriving. All this is computationally derived from "unable to look at an area."

If you were to get the idea - get the preclear the idea that there's a terrific mound of fireworks going on right in front of him, you see, a big bubbling pot of explosions and so forth, and that he was trying to put a beam into the center of it, you've got the first reason why he found he couldn't "look at" and arrive. There was the first time he couldn't arrive there.

To complete a cycle of action, then, is to die, in this universe. People can't arrive.

You know the phenomenon of the guy who puts an anchor point up into the corner but it doesn't quite go into the corner? Well, he can't arrive. You see, he just can't penetrate that far in order to look at properly. He cannot arrive; that's the trouble with him.

So if you just tell him to get the idea that he mustn't arrive in that corner as he puts his anchor point up there, the anchor point will probably go up there spang! because of reverse vectors. Put the idea behind it. It isn't any reason to work any ideas anyhow. I'm just showing you how this thing works out.

Now, what is primary here? The behavior of the anchor point itself or the thetan or the viewpoint as a class of things, or the thought which goes with it? Which is the most important: "Can't arrive" or the beam not touching the geographical point? Now, the concept "Can't arrive" or the fact that the sight beam or the anchor point doesn't reach its exact target? Which is the most important in terms of aberration and behavior of these two facts? Hm?

Audience: Anchor. The beam. The anchor point.

The anchor point; that's right. The concept is secondary. The concept is simply a pattern of energy and you can undo that pattern of energy.

Somebody's real worried about "Can't arrive" or something, you can show him you can run this out with concepts.

A fellow doesn't dare complete any action because if he does he'll die. Well, he's in the center point of aberration in this universe. That's "Can't look at."

"I don't dare let my anchor point arrive in collision with that exact geographical location, because that geographical location will destroy my anchor point, or has destroyed my anchor point, which I remember full well." See? See, he just doesn't want to lose an anchor point.

Why doesn't he want to lose an anchor point? Well, he knows he hasn't got very many anchor points - they're scarce. Why doesn't he want to get out there with a real viewpoint? Well, he's already got one viewpoint inside of his head and that's all a person can have, you see? Obviously, a person can only have one viewpoint at a time. Furthermore, you get scenery tangled up when you look at it from the right side and the left side.

A thetan who's any good, by the way, can look at a flat picture from the right side and from the left side and alter the picture enough to get a three-dimensional view. Of course, it would be three-dimensional as he matched it up unless he said it was flat. But the general idea you get there is very easy.

The anchor point's exact arrival, the exact handling, the accurate handling of the anchor point geographically, depends upon the person's ability to differentiate between just plain present time geography, which has no significance beyond the fact that it's space and energy and matter, and the significance which it has had in the past.

All significance is in the past. There is no significance in the present. Now you just strip the significance off the case and you got a happy man.

Just like all the messengers that rode forth north and south and east and west in order to find a happy man so they could cure the Chinese emperor's daughter - all these dashed around, you know - and they're supposed to find this happy man, and one by one the troops came back in and reported to the emperor that they had been unable to find a happy man until the last batch that came in, and they reported they'd found a happy man. And the daughter was pining away with her last breath and the emperor said, "Quick! Quick! Where is his shirt?" And they hung their heads and they said, "Your honor, we found a happy man, but when we found him, he had no shirt."

Now, this riddle is based upon - this observation, this proverb is based upon that one fact. It isn't how many MEST objects you possess in present time. That doesn't matter a damn. It's how many duplicates and significances are you attaching to the geographical points of this universe. And if you haven't got any of those significances, you're a happy man. But if you've got a lot of those significances, you may be terribly experienced, but boy, you're sure wretched. Truth of the matter is, this universe can do nothing to you that you yourself don't do first.

So, you will find that preclear who is most heavily bogged down in energy masses as that preclear who has the most significances. Now, this doesn't mean somebody who has blobs of energy drifting past his head has got significances in geography, but yes, believe me, there's all kinds of significant geography.

How do you clear this? Change Processing. You just get him to shift with certainty. Get his lowest gradient scale of certainty and then kind of work him up the scale. Or just simply sit in and brutalize him and beat him to pieces and it'll eventually all come clear anyhow. You don't have to be careful with the process.

Now, you'll find that people do use energy to handle objects. You'll find objects - energy around the body which has been used to handle the body. The body is a pretty automatic proposition.

Frank came in the other day and said something had happened to him with regard to his body. He said, "I've gotten rid of all these automaticities except my body. Every time I try to run automaticity now, all I get is my body." Well, what's he trying to do? If he went any further along in this line, he just wouldn't have a body. A body is an automaticity. He had arrived, of course, with a complete answer.

This opens up, by the way, this diagnosis system: You merely find what is the automaticity of the preclear and you will find the dynamic on which he is chronically inverted. He mentioned that, brought it to mind the other day.

What's his automaticity? When he goes to sleep and dreams, he always has a dream about Buddha. Where is he inverted? Seven. Every time he dreams - goes to sleep, he dreams about something - he'll tell you about his dreams. Well, don't go pawing over people's dreams. It's quite fruitless.

Whenever he gets a mock-up, the mock-up tends to be an animal. He gets good animal mock-ups, but he doesn't get any other kind and the animals do the cutest things! Where is he automatic? Five.

He gets mock-ups, but what he mocks up real easy, he can always get planets and moons and stars and things like that. Where is he? Six.

He doesn't dare get any mock-ups at all. Where is he inverted?

Male voice: Three.

Where?

Male voice: Eight.

Eight. Every time. His primary entrance is God. Primary entrance to the case is God - contest with space. God owns all the space. He can't have any anchor points. See how that follows? God owns all the space, that means the preclear has no anchor points. You can run the concept "I have no anchor points" on him and he might weep. He can't own anything. God has taken it all away. This is what it amounts to. Whether he's ever heard of God or not, that's the same concept that comes through.

So, you can get an estimate by the automaticity of the mock-up. What is the most automatic mock-up?

Well, now we get - this fellow gets purple globes - all the time, purple globes. Well, he'd be in two spots - he could be reversed in two spots - purple globes he gets all the time. It would certainly be seven, and it's four, also. That's the entrance to the traps of Mars which regulate the activities of bodies here on Earth, giving some - they had to do this, by the way, in order to instill some truth in astrology. They didn't want everybody on Earth to be a liar. Anyway...

We have, then, this type of process which goes out and clears up, by the inverted dynamic, the most pertinent geographical area. Here you see a couple of churches and a couple of crosses and a couple of thises and a couple of houses. This is all interesting if you put these far apart - now, don't make a preclear get too close - you put these several feet apart. And you can make him be behind one and be behind the other one and be behind one and be behind the other one. Hm! He can do it with a fair degree of certainty. It'll also ease up his future level because you've put a MEST symbol in the road of what you're trying to clear up way out in space and so it'll unburden the engram.

Did you ever hear of "unburdening"? That is, you take the locks off and then you get to the engram - reverse process. You don't take the engram out and the locks blow. Well, this is a kind of an unburdening with Change Processing.

This technique, by the way, is a very interesting technique. It's quite interesting. It's not necessarily the most successful way of doing it - but it's interesting. All right.

Now, when we've got a preclear who has a low level of certainty, what's the first Change Processing that would be indicated? And how would you know what moment to change to the next step to get a gradient scale? This guy is real uncertain. You tell him to be in one place. That's where he is.

All right, you say, "Be in the chair." And the guy - "I am in the chair!" Okay. We got over that bump. You see where you'd enter there?

Now, your next step up from that would be his right shoulder and his left shoulder. You can actually have him move out on the right side and look at his body and move out on the left side and look at his body. But that's an introversion, remember, he's looking at his body. You would follow that immediately with making him look at the right wall and look at the left wall, or putting anchor points up on the right side of the room and putting anchor points up on the left side of the room.

Now, how would you do Change Processing so as to create space and not get very intricate?

Use the room or the place where the body is as one point and then get three other points not in a plane with his body and he'll be making space whether he wants to or not. So you can always throw "making space" in under the bottom of Change Processing without ever mentioning it.

You just make him go - you've got a tetrahedron - it takes four points to make three-dimensional space. The smallest geometric figure of that character is the tetrahedron and it has one point at the top and three points at the base. And that's a solid and that gives you three-dimensional space. So if you considered his body one and the top of a tree another one and the top of another tree another one and the top of a third tree another one, by putting him behind his body, at the top of tree one, tree two, tree three, body, tree one, tree two, tree three, body, he'd be making space the whole time, wouldn't he?

If tree one, tree two and tree three were all of the same height and were in a straight line, you would not be making space, you would be making a plane. So you just figure that out.

He'd be sitting in this room as point one. There's two automobiles out on the street; that gives you two more points. And there's one down here in the parking lot; that's three more points. You're making an irregular tetrahedron which is a certain shape, but it gives you three-dimensional space. He's making space.

Now, you can make a tetrahedron from here and make a tetrahedron from some other place and you're getting a change of space as change of two spaces.

Dick came in this morning and told me that building eight anchor points here and eight anchor points in the hotel room was very, very effective. It is, if it doesn't blow up the preclear when you try to get him into that - into that area, because he'll become concentrated on the hotel room. And if you were to have a sudden, violent noise in the hotel room, you're leaving him there too long. You want to get your preclear back quick.

But at this level of case and this level of class, don't let your preclear go and sit anyplace for a long time; just a little warning. We want all our preclears. We have some slight use for them.

Another thing is, if you get the guy accustomed to operating too far away from you, too independently and so forth, he might do a bunk on you in one case or another. That won't happen here. And therefore, that's - that technique is very usable in this class, but it's not usable as a general technique because it leaves the preclear out of your sight too long and you want a couple of - a couple of big, strong, sharp hooks into him for a little while.

Because, believe me, you can process a preclear up to a point where he gets enough energy to do a bunk. Can you conceive that? He's just being obedient because he's too lazy to run away. Then you give him a little energy and all of a sudden he beats it. Then you sit there and give him a half-an-hour's argument as why he should come back to his body and then you finally say to him, "Well, at least think of your poor auditor." Okay. That's...

The introduction of certainty into Change Processing is something you must now learn to coordinate with regard to preclears. He hasn't got to be certain that he's looking at what he's looking at, but you should be certain that he knows what he's doing.

You know, sometimes a preclear will do the damnedest things and he won't tell you he's doing them. And he thinks that you've told him the damnedest things and you've never mentioned them. You got that? You've never mentioned it and - in something else.

When you give him a description of what you want him to do - you want him to sit in the automobile - give it to him with signals. Use your hands. Show it to him. Point. Don't depend on language.

You want him in this automobile, right down there - behind the seat, under the wheel - where we want him. And we want him in the other automobile up there, behind the wheel, right there, just there and noplace else. And we want him to go to that automobile and no other automobiles on the street - none - just that automobile, that automobile, and then this automobile down here in the parking lot.