CHART OF ATTITUDES: | RISING SCALE PROCESSING |
RISING SCALE PROCESSING | |
This is continuing the first lecture, but it’s Lecture Two, second hour, evening class, December the 11th. | |
This is the first evening lecture of December the 11th. | Uh… speaking about Rising Scale Processing, there is the second method of doing Rising Scale Processing. Don’t underestimate this method, don’t under-evaluate it. This method is senior to any flow processing or engram processing that you can do. |
I’m going to cover rapidly now the Chart of Attitudes with all of its various facets. You’ve read this Chart of Attitudes, you’ve found it in the HANDBOOK OF PRECLEARS. And in the HANDBOOK OF PRECLEARS it talks about it as an ideal state of man. | You can do this on anybody… for the excellent reason that they don’t require any information or any qualification of the scale that they are working. You get some preclear who is stumbling in out of the dark of the street and uh… comes into your brightly lighted web, uh… he shouldn’t have to be educated ad nauseam about what you’re doing. So uh… you just start to do this and you start to do that, and you don’t bother much, really, to educate your preclear. |
I don’t think there’s any real contest with its being an ideal state for man, but if you took the whole top band, you’d find it was an awfully inactive state. | Truth of the matter is, on education of the preclear, it’s really just a little bit of cruelty to make a preclear a theta clear and drop it. It’s just… just a little bit of a cruelty to do so, because he starts going up the line, he wants to keep on going up the line. Or if he’s not going to go up that line, he’s going to go in the opposite vector so fast, but you’re not going to have to worry about him. You’re either going to… you’re going to fix him up with some kind of processing. |
If you didn’t go on from the top of the MEST universe band into some sort of activity or something of the sort, you’d have no beingness. That activity is yours. | You can get him with mock-ups and that sort of thing just as fast in the head as out for chronic somatics and uh… little abnormalities of various sorts; such as, he’s a cashier at the bank and he has this obsession that makes him put five thousand dollars in his pocket every night. Uh… you could get mock-ups. He’s just worried about money so you mock up making money and unmaking money, and spending money, and then getting money of various patterns and shapes and money the sizes of newspapers and plastering rooms with money and the body with money and weighing the body down with money and manufacturing it and tearing it up and throwing it away and getting more. And curing the scarcity of money for him, in other words. You could do that with great ease. But, if you get a person up to theta clear and then you don’t do anything else for him, God help him, really. He’ll move in, he’ll get in trouble. He wo… won’t know what he’s doing, he won’t have any kind of an education. And it’s something like… like uh… you… you’re… you’re playing midwife to a thetan and you get him born and you say, „The dickens with him; we’re not going to educate him. We’re just going to let him grow up like Topsy,“ only he isn’t going to grow anyplace. He’s going to fool around and stumble around. He’s not going to know the laws behind all of this stuff. And he’s not going to have any idea of what his capabilities should or shouldn’t be. And he gets enlarged and swollen ideas about how big he is, and the next thing you know he’s changed… going to change the affairs of the world. And then the only trouble is that the moment he’s crossing the Pyrenees he trips and falls flat on his face and he crawls home. Or he gets wandering around some place out in a much larger sphere and he runs into some place where there are lights flashing, a light hits him in the eye and he doesn’t come home. |
Now the odd part of all this is that your activity is, in this universe… is enforced or inhibited. You’re given the supplies and then to a large degree not permitted to use them. And your own process, your own manufacture of mock-ups and so forth, is actually in contest with the MEST universe. The MEST universe says, „Look how big and strong and real I am, and how weak and puny you are.“ | You’ve still cured him of a number of things; but for… I leave you to… to… you’ll find out that you’ll be educating them. You’ll be telling them… you’ll be telling them very carefully… you’ll feel something like… like an old, old soldier telling the young recruit – something of this sort. |
How does it says that? It says, „My actuality is brighter than any you can make.“ This doesn’t happen to be true. The reality of the MEST universe is poorer than a reality which a preclear can gain in his own universe. This would only be natural, because what is one’s own can be more real then that which one has given to him. One always appreciates that of which he is the author more than he appreciates something of which he is not the author. | For that reason if you’re not a theta clear and you’re doing a lot of auditing uh… it… it gets to be rather upsetting to you to be telling this theta clear about what’s coming along because… and so on. All of a sudden he picks up and he starts running like a freight train and you wonder where the heck you are. And he just widens the gap. But he’s still not educated. He’s quicker at picking things up and all that sort of thing. |
This is a rather inevitable sort of thing, and so really here, following out this old process of SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008, we find we are working with, really, a curve that goes two ways here. It starts down from here – 0.0 – and then goes up here – 40.0 – and comes over to here and comes down here again. And this could be the MEST universe, and this could be your own universe. | Well, anyway, Rising Scale Processing is not a mock-up process. It is strictly postulate processing, but you use it on a rising scale basis. Your preclear comes in off the street. You don’t educate him. You don’t tell him anything. You merely say, „All right, now there are two conditions: Surviving and Dead. Is that right?“ |
One of the reasons universities get patronized is because they use the word UNIVERSITY. One of the reasons they get loyalty from their students is because they use the word UNIVERSITY and YOUR UNIVERSITY. There really is no other reason. That’s right, flatly; because let’s look at the s… facts of the case. The writer, would-be writer, goes to a university to write. If he’s ‘taught’, unquote, to write in a university, he’ll never write. | And he says, „That’s right.“ |
A painter goes there to learn how to paint, and he comes out – he never paints. Fascinating fact. That’s because he runs into authoritarianism. It does something to one’s will to be positioned for such long a period of time as from the age of five to the age of 22, 23 or 24. A person is young, he can stand it up to about the age of 15, 16, 17. And then he starts to suffer – badly – by being positioned. If he does not take on the responsibilities of his own existence shortly after puberty, he is going to have a hard time of it the rest of his life. And that is the flat end of it. | „Now, let’s get the concept of being dead. You got the concept of being dead? All right. Now let’s shift it to… towards surviving.“ |
It is no joke that university women do not have children. That’s a fact: They don’t. They don’t reproduce that particular line to any great degree. There are a lot of them that do, and the funny part of it is, these days they’re breaking out of that rut somewhat – somewhat. But the GI bill didn’t do anything for this. | „Oh, yes. I can do that.“ |
Look at Heidelberg. The European university is a very interesting one. Sometimes you even go to class. The GI bill was a whip over the heads of anybody who wished to study, the like of which nobody’s ever seen. You had to have a high average to keep up. This is one of the ways the government used to keep everybody from benefiting by it. You had to have a high whip… – average, big average – bang! | „All right, let’s do it again. Get the concept of being dead. Now shift it toward the concept of surviving. You got that?“ |
You had to get in there and know those facts. And instruction under those conditions was what? As many as 400 students to a class, with one instructor, and that instructor was just a lecturer. No instruction, really. | „Yeah, yeah, I did that.“ |
Very interesting. I looked at universities when this was going on. There’s one thing that saved the bacon of the GI. He’d been out on his own somewhat, and he’d also found out how to duck and dodge in the service. It’s the only thing he had. | „All right, now get the concept of being dead and shift it toward surviving.“ |
But if I have to rehabilitate, or try to rehabilitate one more writer that a university has ruined, I’m gonna go over and really fix me up some short story professors. I’m gonna zap ‘em so they’ll know they’ve been zapped. ‘Cause I’m sick of it! | „Ooww!“ he says. |
They run the same old yap. The kid turns in a good idea, a piece of his own universe, and he gets it back: „The punctuation is off.“ Who the hell cares about the punctuation. That’s what you have editors for. | „What happened when you do that?“ |
What do they teach these kids? They teach ‘em how to edit. | „Something went ‘ping!’ or something.“ |
Some of the most famous writers in America were congregated in one room. These writers were looking for someone who had a Ph.D. in literature, a doctorate in literature, or something in literature, that we didn’t even know what the degree was. And everybody kind of squirmed; one fellow says, „Well, fact of the matter is I… I took engineering, I didn’t take writing.“ | „Well, you blew a little ridge.“ You set him up one way or the other. |
And another one says, „Well, I… I only spent the first year in college and then they kicked me out.“ | Now let’s go on to the next one. Let’s get… there’s a scale that goes between a gradient scale, that is to say, degrees of being right and degrees of being wrong. „All right, now let’s get the concept of being wrong.“ |
And another fellow said, „You did? Well I was there two years before they kicked me out!“ | „Yes.“ |
And all of a sudden we looked through this whole crowd and we find out – my God! Everybody here has been kicked out of a university and probably didn’t spend very long there except maybe if they were taking engineering and then they were hanging around with the fringes. And then the only reason the university graduated them as engineers is they knew damn well they’d never practice engineering. And uh… well, it was about all we had. | „All right, shift it up toward being right. Now get as close as you can to being right.“ |
Except one little small proud voice piped up over in the corner, and he said, „I have a degree in literature.“ | „All right – yeah.“ |
We thought, „For Christ’s sakes! Mice?“ And uh… it was what? It was a literary agent! I mean, oh no! Flesh brokers. They can’t write. Oh, how they’d love to! He was the only one there. | „All right, now get wrong – now wrong. Shift it toward being right.“ |
The aggregate income of that room, by the way, was in excess of 150 thousand dollars a month – except the literary agent. He did criticisms for a dollar a manuscript. | „Yeah!“ |
Isn’t that fascinating? Something must be off the rails if a country does not turn itself out aesthetics. There were 280 thousand bachelors of art graduates in 1947 from the United States. 280 thousand! My God! Think what would have happened if you’d graduated into this country 280 thousand good – artists! The whole face of the United States would have changed. | „Now,“ you say, „get being wrong.“ |
Now there are things that can be taught, but not the arts. You can teach ‘em engineering, you can teach ‘em something that has any process or procedure; you can get ‘em together and teach them government. You can teach law. You can do a lot of these things, but you can’t teach the arts. | „Hey, I can’t get that anymore.“ |
And there’s where I get the index: How much better could they work? Well, they could work better if they stayed true to their own pretense that they’re a university. | „Well, get the concept of being right.“ |
If one went to his own university and if it treated him like that, he would have the right to think and he’d have the right to have an opinion. And he’d have the right to make up his own mind. And he would be there so that information could be made available to him, so he could figure it out. | „Yeah, I can get that.“ |
And this problem right here would have been licked hundreds and hundreds of years ago, if it hadn’t been for the scholastics and if it hadn’t have been for the modern university. You owe ‘em a great debt – a debt of continued slavery – because they pretended they were responsible for this problem, and they never took responsibility for it. | You’re shifting his postulates using extreme ranges. So you’re just jumping from the bottom to the top, ka-boom, bang! Ka-boom, bang! Something’s going to break. |
So, you’ll get all sorts of kick-backs as you go outside of that propaganda. Understand, I’m not trying to destroy the American university as an institution. I think we’ve got to have football, and the more football we have the better. | What do you know? Give a girl… give a girl whose endocrine system is all shot to the devil an hour of this processing. Kind of boring – very little randomity to it. You just give her an hour of this processing. You just take your gradient scale here and, „Let’s get the idea of no responsibility at all. Now let’s get the idea of complete responsibility.“ You’d think she’d go down scale on that. She doesn’t. |
Anyway, the whole idea here is to restore freedom of action, freedom of thought, freedom to believe, freedom to survive, freedom to know, freedom to be responsible, freedom to create motion, freedom to BE fate, not have to have it. Freedom to win… very interesting. THOSE are freedoms. | It’s the scale… of course the MEST universe says, „No responsibility is the thing to have and full responsibility is very hard work.“ Nya! That is exactly in reverse. No responsibility is horrible! And full responsibility, of course, is a very light-hearted thing. It’s just in reverses. |
And funny thing: A man has to be free in order to be those things. And as soon as he starts being owned, he ceases to have them. And one of the first steps is to tell him how nice it is to be owned: „We’ll take full responsibility for you.“ | All right, and then we get the… „Now get the concept of owning nothing. Now get the concept of owning everything. Now let’s shift it between owning nothing and owning everything. Can you get that? Owning nothing.“ |
You know, in the Roman Empire, that the consuls and so forth were often pro-consuls, and kids around town. The kids around town, the kind that you see maybe going to a boy scout troop or something like that in this society. How you defeat an abundance of labor. The kids around town, the richer families, the… so on. The more noteworthy children took on the duties of office at 12, 13 and 14. And most of the famous characters that you read about in Roman history, you’re reading about periods of their lives from 15 to 20. That is when the body is growing, it’s vital, it’s progressive and it doesn’t know the word STOP. It doesn’t learn that until it’s about 30. By that time it’s got it, good. | „Yeah, it makes me feel sad.“ |
Now when you look over all of this, the second that a man says, „I have to have some other force than mine own,“ he ceases to be free. An interchange of knowledge can occur, but an interchange in borrowing of force cannot. A state and a people have no business operating on a police basis. They should never… but this is a beautiful police universe. Police, police, police. Every direction you look. Regimentation and policing – very wicked. | „All right, now shift that toward owning everything.“ And you do that shift a few times and you come back here. |
Because people are persuaded to turn over their individual force to something that they are given to understand is superior to their own ability to protect. And that can never be. That’s a snare; that can never be. Nobody’ll look after a man’s own but himself. And nobody’ll look after the property of a group but itself. But if you do that sort of thing, you are proposing anarchy, you’re proposing that you do not have a government by force. But you’re proposing that anybody be given licence in the field of forte main! Oh, no. That, unfortunately, isn’t workable either, unless one has achieved at the same time a level of ethic permissible to have such force in existence. | „Now get the concept of being nobody, just nobody at all. Now let’s get the concept of being everybody. Now let’s shift between being nobody to everybody.“ |
Fortunately, nobody ever had the adventure or the information to look at it before and find out: Did one’s ethic increase to the degree that he was free above a certain point. No; they looked at a rabble that had always been nailed down, chained down, hangdog, mauled, rolled under Have Not’s, that would suddenly spring free, crawl out of the gutters and sewers and by negative-positive reaction HIT a country, tear it to pieces, throw it back down the time track in havingness, a thousand, two thousand years: The French Revolution. | „Now get the concept that never… there’s just no… nothing will ever happen. Let’s get the concept of ‘never’. Now let’s shift it up to the concept of ‘always’.“ They do… do that a few times. |
And then they say, „Look what happens when you give them freedom. That’s a good reason now why we should use force.“ | „Get the concept of being stopped. Now let’s get the concept of starting. Stopped-starting. Get the concept of having hallucinations. All right, let’s get the concept from there of being truth itself. Okay.“ |
It was force and the suppression of force which caused that action. It wasn’t the other. | „Now, get the concept of distrusting everything. Now trusting everything.“ |
A man’s freedom, then, cannot be a halfway thing. You cannot compromise or quibble with the freedom of a man. If there is a perfect form of government, that form of government would be anarchy. Everybody has agreed to this. An anarchy, however, would have to be built out of individuals who were capable, each one, of complete self-government, an impossible condition in the past. If each person were capable of complete self-government and capable of taking responsibility utterly for his own acts, you would have, for the first time, a basis of ethic. | „Trusting everything… trusting,“ they say, „that reminds me of my ex-husband. You know, I could never trust him a minute.“ |
And the other way around, you would only have a moral, and a moral code is no good. An ethical code can be depended upon, because if you have an ethical code, you only have it as long as it exists. And it exists only as long as a man has enough strength not to himself be afraid. | You say, „Well now, that’s all right. That’s okay. That’s fine. I’m very glad to hear about your ex-husband. Now let’s get that concept.“ Don’t get them straying off. |
And any time he is susceptible to terror, you’re going to lose your ethic. And the only time a man gets afraid is when he loses his belief in himself and his trust in himself. | You know this theory that a person, if he talked along enough would talk out all of his aberrations is about as sensible as the… if 50 million monkeys were turned loose on 50 million typewriters for 50 million years, they would write all the literature ever written. It doesn’t say what else they’d write. Probably write Time magazine. |
And every criminal you find in an institution went on the road to crime in one direction only and at one moment only: when he lost his own self-respect. You can go check that, and you’ll find out that that is uniformly the case. And if you want to rehabilitate the criminal, rehabilitate his self-respect. One day he suddenly found out he couldn’t trust himself any more and from that moment on he became a criminal because it did not matter now what he did. | Uh… „Now let’s get the concept ‘I know not’, just the concept you know nothing. Now shift it up to the concept ‘I know’. Now let’s get the concept of everything having an effect on you – everything affecting you – just everything affecting you. And then causing things to happen.“ |
And in a gradient scale, you have a modern society. | He’ll say, „I can’t get that. The concept’s too big for me“. |
Now what then is your level that is an attainable level for freedom? It would have to be a level which is so high that every man could reason and be responsible in his own right, for his own acts. And also for the acts of others. | You say, „All right, get… get being… being affected by everything by only being affected by what you want to be affected by.“ |
Blame-regret, blame-regret is the course of a police state. And its spiral dwindles down and dwindles very rapidly. So there’s no halfway point on this scale. You can’t cut it off here and say we’ve done a good job and reformed the whole world. You can’t cut it off here at ‘A’; you can’t cut it off at ‘B’. You’ve just got to go ahead and put the guy into shape so he can handle himself and his force. You can patch up somebody and make him well. That’s what you were straining against in auditing. You see, you broke agreement with the first book, you broke agreement with the MEST universe to – this degree: to about 4.0. You said, „Look, it says I have to have engrams and I have to have things that force me to do various things. And look: I can run them out. As fast as they happen… bad things happen to me, I can run them out.“ | „Yeah, I got that. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah, I’ll get that again. Dom-Dom.“ |
And you were disagreeing with the mandates of the physical universe to that extent. But that extent ceases at 4.0, and from there on up it requires another process. | „Now you go over to being nothing – that you don’t exist, to really being. Now let’s shift those concepts.“ |
That’s why, immediately, homo sapiens can go to 4.0 on DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH and the SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL. But he can’t go anyplace above that without having his self-determinism restored to him. He becomes well, he becomes better able to reason, but I have not seen what I had hoped to see because unfortunately it can’t exist: an ethical, strong, homo sapiens. And if it can’t exist, let’s go up here. | „Being nothing – really being. Yeah, I got that.“ |
Gee, you’re clear up to about a potential of 36, 38 before you can get a full level susceptible to good ethic. An ethic is that which is enforced by oneself, his belief in his own honor and good reason and optimum solution along the eight dynamics; that’s ethics. | „All right, now get the concept of losing everything.“ |
And morals is somebody who sticks a spear into your belly or a sepulchre over your head, hides a boogey man back of a chair, tells you nothing and says, „You’ve got to do it because the unseen Gods…“ There’s no difference between a taboo and a moral. This language is even beginning to go to pieces, because in the dictionaries of today, unlike the dictionaries of just a hundred years ago, a moral is defined as an ethic, and an ethic is defined as a moral in the modern dictionary. Ahhh, they’ve even lost the philosophic definition for an ethic. | „Oh, yeah. That’s a sad one.“ |
You don’t think he’s bad off? He’s bad off. Homo sapiens at 4.0 is a lot better than homo sapiens has ever been. But homo sapiens at 4.0 compared to a level which you would… desirable ethical, it has to measure up to the potentialities of the being, and at 4.0 he is much, much, much less than a 100 thousandths of his proper horsepower, and it’s too fine and too small a strength to be able to stand up to the winds of the world, and the howling o… yells of all the fears of the universe. It’s too much, that strength out there, in here; it’s too cold for homo sapiens or it’s too hot, or it’s too scarce. He can be killed too easily. As a consequence, this big, blustering universe can look at him and say, „You don’t dare be ethical. You’re afraid.“ | „Now shift that up to winning – winning everything.“ |
And so he is; he’s afraid. | „Yeah, I got that one.“ |
Now, when you get into knowingness, then, and when you get into an allowable band, these here, Survive, Right, Full Responsible… do you know that a man really doesn’t dare be right? What would happen if you went out determined to be right for 24 hours? What would it mean that you’d have to be right every time that you said anything, did anything, mentioned anything? You couldn’t be polite; you’d have to say what you meant. Hah! You’d be shot in your tracks before you got out of here. | „Now get the concept of everything being the same, whole thing the same, everything the same – to everything being different.“ |
Typical behavior of homo sapiens: Two elevators in the hotel are both sticking this morning. Girl gets on, she fusses all the way down, she’s fussing, damning, oh, cursing around terribly because one of these elevators is sticking, and both of them are, really, and misses floors and all that sort of thing. She’s going to really give the management a piece of her mind. And she walks over to the desk and she picks up her morning mail, and she says to this little tiny meek clerk, she said uh… „I suppose you’re fixing the elevators?“ | „Yeah, I got that.“ |
And the clerk said, „Yes,“ and she dropped it at that. Real brave, homo sapiens, real brave. He knows it doesn’t do any good. | „All right. Now, get the concept of… of… of being all possessions – just being possessed and owned entirely. Now let’s shift that from the concept of owning entirely or possessing everything or being everything“ – however you want to put that last line. |
Well, let’s ask the same question: What the hell is this girl doing needing an elevator? | Now what do you do with this next? You go back to ‘dead to survive’ and you just go around in circles with this chart of attitudes, and running the whole scale. Now you… as soon as you’ve gone down to being had or possessed to owning or being, come around here and get ‘dead’ again, to ‘survival’ and ‘wrong to right’ and so on. Get them a few times each. Go around and around. And when you get around to the end of it again, start back at the bottom and shift to the top once more on the first one and the second one and so on. Just keep this up. |
So, this is a rough universe. You’d have to be able to handle the majority of forces in it before you could stand up to it and never be afraid. Or you would have to hold inside yourself a piece of courage that would be strained and tortured beyond all belief in an effort to be courageous enough to take this universe. | It will do this: it will boost a person straight out of a Fac One. It’ll just kick him out of Fac One. It is a manhandling process. It just literally takes this guy by his bootstraps and boots him up the tone scale. |
I believe the people who are alive today are by far the more courageous ones because this universe really dishes the boys in who aren’t. | And you can expect such things as this to happen, not as a uniform result, but you can expect it often enough if you keep at this with this Rising Scale process, you can get into a state where all of a sudden, as the person shifts up tone scale they feel a sudden ping! in their head that isn’t any ridge breaking. They feel a shudder and a shake go through their whole body. They feel a sudden warmth and an action taking place in their body which they’ve never had before. |
Now we’ve got here two tracks. And we might as well split them off into two tone scales. We’ll draw this line down here – Y-Z, and we’ll show the difference between these two things just by dividing it. And I don’t know what the scale over here would be. I haven’t got any idea, because that’s all up to you. This scale might start here at something like 40 where you made space, but you always had to have an object before you made a space, which might put 40 there. Or both of those might be 40 for you; or you might have 0.0 here. – | They say, „What on earth is this?“ They say, „I feel like something turned on. I’m… I feel like I’m turned on all of a sudden! |
And as you went up to… say you got too much space in your universe, you might go into minus 8 as a penalty. And you might have a little square that… „When you move into this you go back eight steps.“ I don’t know what’s on this side. That… that’s… that’s your universe. I haven’t got any idea of what would be in that or how you’d figure things out. | Things are kind of light!“ And so forth. Well, they’ll turn a little bit off again very subsequently, so you have to get them back and do this process for another half an hour or so again. And you’ll probably have to do it several times. And each time they really think they’re hitting the top of the scale every time. They’re not. New ideas turn up, flash through and they are shifting higher and higher on the scale, higher and higher on the scale. They’re getting wider and wider on these two concepts and they’re getting less and less able to get the bottom concept. Until one day you would say, „Now get the idea of being d…“ |
I do know this, however, that it’d be very interesting. But over here on the MEST universe side, you bet your life, I know what’s over here: 0.0-20.0. It’s taken me 25 years to find out what’s over there. It wasn’t that it was a tough problem; it was too incredibly simple. And you always kept overshooting its complexity, always kept overshooting it. | „How can you get the idea of being dead?“ |
The secret of the MEST universe was, there was no secret. | „Well, you just get the idea of being…“ |
So, we get here and we come up the line. Well, theoretically a person would go from this point over here… this point uh… ‘N’ and he’d go up here where this parabola, or whatever it is, hits this ‘Y-Z’ line. This would be area… area ‘T’ for Transit. And uh… as a person’s tone rose, his freedom would rise and he’d go up to that area, according to graph… fortunately you don’t really go according to graphs, you see. You could theoretically go up and through that area and down this side again. That Isn’t possible. | „I can’t get the idea of maybe something else being dead – not that very well. Gee, everything’s alive! I mean, how can it be dead“ They’ll argue with you. Their concept is changed to a point where they actually couldn’t recognize DEATH as any kind of a permanency or a state or anything else to be dreaded. |
But there is a way that… because, you see, it isn’t possible to transit at the top there, because it’s a… It’s a what? See, you wouldn’t be able to tell where this space started and ended that was your universe and the MEST universe, and you could get very, very mixed up about space up there at that point, ‘T’. And therefore, time would go screwy, and so on. | Their whole endocrine system is liable to turn on with it. The pineal – that mysterious, mystic gland of all mysteries – is liable to turn on. Fac One’ll turn it on – if you just run a Fac One. But you can turn on a pineal every once in a while with this sudden jump process on the Chart of Attitudes. Very worthwhile process. One that you ought to kind of write down in your hip pocket as being… some character who isn’t doing too well on mock-ups or you… you’re too bored to run ‘em on it or something of the sort, just try this other one and your… just… you just kick them right on up top tone scale. You’re just booting them up bodily. You’re putting them in the elevator and turning it on full juice and letting it roar on out the roof. |
So what you’re doing is an entirely different operation. You’re actually postulating a 0.0 in your universe, and you’re doing… doing mock-ups in your universe at first, comparable to, or less than, the… the stability of mock-ups in this universe. | It’s that… actually that’s rough a process and yet it apparently… it does not handle flows. If you catch the guy wincing and using effort and using force on this – nahh, he’s not doing it. Or his postulates are so bogged down in the middle of flows that he’s just having a horrible time doing it. Just tell him to get just the idea. Just coax him until he finally will get the idea so he can sit there and think, „Yes, dead.“ Instead of „Yeah – dead – DEAD. Yeah, I got dead; now I’ll shift that up!“ |
So you’re doing a jump here from the right-hand side of this curve… to the left-hand side of the curve to the right-hand side of the curve, see? Own… the physical universe curve. You’re doing things over here on the Own – universe curve which are comparable. You’re doing the same comparability. You’re not building a universe. You’re just practicing over here on your Own universe curve. | What he’s doing is, he thinks he’s lifting weights and you’ll see him strain on this – effort. He’s putting a lot of effort into it. You want the idea shifted. And you keep explaining it to him if he does that. |
„What do you know?“ several people say, „It’s a funny thing it’s happening, but the MEST universe isn’t… doesn’t seem to be getting any more real… unreal; a lot of things I’ve run in it. But you know these things I mock up! Boy, are they getting real! They really look good“ and so forth. And, „I’d sure hate to get rid of that… I sure hated to get rid of that. That… that was… that was real nice“ – uh… that… that sort of thing. Picking up more and more and more and more and more and more. | But I saw this have a very signal and wonderful effect. This little process here – there’s an awful lot of stuff parked away in Scientology that probably never sees the light of day and possibly never will. Such a process as this is senior to running engrams. It’ll make a MEST clear just like that. |
And of course, when one is able to do that, all the way over, he can actually flash back on to this side and if he’s gotten himself parked here – 20.0… 20.0. Supposing he’s 20.0 on this mock curve – this Own Universe curve. See, you’re not building your own universe. That’s just its curve, that’s just a practice curve. So if you’re opposite 20.0 on the MEST universe curve, and you’re 20.0 over on this side, what are you gonna get? | You don’t just say, „Well, I’m a self-determined individual and now I’m going to be self-determined and now I’m SELF-DETERMINED, you understand? And anybody that says I’m not self-determined is going to get his throat cut! I’m very free too. I’m very unemotional! Grrr!“ |
Very fascinating, because you’d probably be able to rig up a blonde in an evening gown down in the street and men would come by and they’d say, „Gee! Ha!“ – tip their hats – that’s theoretically. That’s what would happen. | I saw Dave MacLean pull that after just 24 hours with Ron House. Gee, that was really a rough deal. |
You’d get way up into forms of action, you’d be able to interchange images. But that’s just a practice curve. So what’s the curve of your own universe? Now that’d be another curve over here, and I don’t care how it would go – torsional G space for all I know. | Uh… that isn’t the same… same process or isn’t even vaguely like that. What you’re getting is change and you’re operating change. And of course, there’s a third stage on each one of those and you never mention it. |
But when you’re all up the line, and so on, why you’re up there. Well before you get to that point, ‘T’… well before you get to ‘T’, you should be able to throw things up, which at least to you are superior, vastly superior in quality, depth, intricacy, design and interest, far superior to MEST universe. And in view of the fact that you’re doing this as a thetan, any… most any time you could part company with a body. I mean, you’ve got reality on that, a lot of you. | When you get the guy stopped to starting, you’re going through change. And in each one of these things when they get the center band on any of these, you’re getting a change. |
But at the end of three weeks, you certainly better have better than just a little reality on it. You’d better be out and clear. There isn’t any reason why you can’t be. There isn’t… I haven’t seen a hard case in this whole class. | So you’re just running up and you’re changing. And he’s going through… these two concepts have changing concepts between them, so of course they change. And the mechanism is hidden from the preclear entirely. He doesn’t realize that to go from stop to start you have to get up through change. He doesn’t know that. He doesn’t know anything about cycles of action, and you’re just setting up the cycles of action and running the end of the cycle to the beginning of the cycle. |
All right, the uh… you’re doing a comparative level. Well, now these concepts which are here on the Chart of Attitudes don’t tell you anything about the quality of a mock-up, except in a highly generalized way. But they tell you… when you say, ‘Chart of Attitudes, MEST universe’, that gives you an ideal state of being, Or man, or something of the sort. | And you’re reversing scale on him, and you’re turning the cycles of action backwards, so that in each case, as we look up here on this chart that we used in the first hour, second chart, we find out that your cycle of action is being shifted from bottom to top. Of course, it shifts all cycles. It goes through practically every cycle there is that is intelligible. |
And over on your own universe, the mock-curve… practice mock-curve, what you’re trying to attain in a mock-up is the following: | There is another cycle of action, by the way, I’ve never mentioned. It’s Positive – Current – Negative; Start, Change and Stop. It could be Minus – Current – Positive too, because they’re named wrong. We won’t worry about that. That’s an electronic guy’s dream. We’re not interested so much in electronics. We’re interested in preclears and human beings. Only reason we have to get interested in electronics to the degree that we get interested in electronics is we’re trying to pull a guy out of a force universe, or pull the effect of the force universe off of him so he doesn’t wind up in night court. So he doesn’t wind up… |
You want to be able to survive; it should be right; it should take full responsibility for what it’s doing and you take full responsibility for it. You should be able to own all. You should be able to make anything that approximates anything. You should be able to make it continue on an ‘Always’ basis, or have ‘Always’ there; in other words, all kinds of time. You should have things which are motion sources in there. The level of truth of that universe ought to be good. You would BE faith in that universe; or your mock-ups, as far as faith is concerned, you would probably rely on a mock-up a heck of a lot quicker than you’d ever rely on a piece of MEST. I mean that seriously. You’d just rely on the mock-up. | You could do this just to that degree, you know. You can straighten a guy out so he’d be the damnedest homo sapiens anybody ever saw coming down the street. He’s not a theta clear, he doesn’t know anything about the thetan, he doesn’t know anything about this new technology at all. |
That’s not bad; if you can create a Cadillac which can outrun Cadillacs, I think you’d depend upon your Cadillac. Get the idea? But if you were really up at the top of the mock-up curve, you’ve made a Cadillac, you would drive your Cadillac much in preference to a Cadillac. You get the idea? It sounds strange, it sounds peculiar, but if you were doing that, and you really set out to make a Cadillac, yours would be a better Cadillac, for you. | You can simply pick him up by his bootstraps and boot him up into 4.0 and say, „There you are, Bud!“ Don’t do it… don’t do it too long with these techniques though, ‘cause you’ll spring him accidentally. |
Actually, you think a MEST universe is good? Uh-uh. It takes gas; it’s scarce; it costs money. | You keep up postulate processing… I dare say if you kept up postulate processing on the roughest case you had that’s so mired in you couldn’t get him out with a building jack, if you kept up postulate processing and mock-up processing for 200 hours, the guy would be outside and well-collected and in good shape. I’d say so, just offhand at a guess. |
Now the level of knowingness. You would know what the beingness and other things were of this universe – your universe, your mock-up. There is a knowingness about your mock-up. You could make a mock-up that knows or you would know everything that was about the mock-up. And as far as knowledge was concerned, you would have the knowledge down pat that required. There would be a knowingness, a feeling of knowing, about these things. You would be cause, you wouldn’t be effect. | I’ve never been able to run these things that long on a person. They generally spring in the first five minutes or the first fifteen minutes or the first hour or the first two hours. |
Or you could make a mock-up that was cause for a lot of things. You would have reached ‘I am’ – full beingness – and you would be able to win. The easiest way to win is to be both sides. You’d be able to start things, terrific differentiation, a very good state of being. You had to be able to make all the space you wanted, so forth. – | One guy really didn’t intend to be at all… he didn’t intend to…he wasn’t doing it. He was doing mock-up processing for an entirely different purpose. And he was doing the British Edition of SELF ANALYSIS. And he was doing it with a group. And after he’d been doing mock-ups for a short time… he’d been doing, I think, something like about uh… six weeks, couple hours a day. One day he was… a little tiny bit of auditing and he was out of his head – bang! He just moved right straight on out and there he was looking at himself. And yet, at the first session he got… boy, he couldn’t have gotten out with a sledge hammer. If you’d sawed his skull in half, he wouldn’t have gotten out of there. |
That… that’s just your goals of identity or identification or individuality of your mock-ups and their character and quality. | Uh… interesting difference: he had just used nothing but routine, the most routine of uh… of mock-ups. I mean, just routine mock-ups, routine mock-ups, routine mock-ups. And that’s something on the neighborhood of about uh… 45 – that’s about 90 hours. And he’d done it with a group. And he wasn’t good at it to begin at all – he was terrible at it. It was an unexpected result, because he wasn’t trying to improve his ability to get out – completely unexpected. |
I know it sounds terribly upsetting to you when I say something like Cadillac. Actually, you would he… probably never mock up a Cadillac. Anybody who wants to go around and mock up a Cadillac and then drive it, of course, would finally find himself faced with the fact that he didn’t have license tags on the thing. He’d have to… he’d… it’s not a practical solution. | Now these processes, then, this shift up scale, the wide change, top – bottom, bottom – top. You could get yourself a flow kind of process here. Get ‘Being dead, not being dead’, ‘Surviving, not surviving’, ‘Trying not to survive, other people keeping you from surviving’. Those are all flows. If you started running that, positive-negative, the guy would find out uh… after a very short time, he felt like he was in the middle of a hurricane. He’d have flows, flows, flows, flows going in all directions. |
You… you’d have to put motor numbers on and serial numbers and persuade somebody in the Cadillac company that they built it. You get how the universe works a guy in? Well, heck! You wouldn’t want to do that then, unless you built a Cadillac which had the potentialities of a General Sherman tank and which, of course, had bullet-proof windows, had a turret gun in the top of the thing, and which would go down the road at 180 miles an hour. Then it would be perfectly safe to own that Cadillac, and so forth, with no license plates, no serial number. When you’re building in contests, you’ve got to build senior to, and that’s always a good process. | And as a result you would be having a flow-type processing. He would go through lines of being frightened, he would get upset, he would get sick – lots of other things’d happen. And you start fooling around with flows, unless you’re going right straight out to handle nothing but flows, you’re going to handle that flow and exhaust that flow, leave it alone, because it takes very – a lot of auditing to get any result and uh… it will upset a preclear. |
Now the funny part of this universe is that when you mock something up – way back on the track, see, you’ve had terrific experience with this. You… it’s just lost, because you kept putting ‘em into competition with the MEST universe and then agreeing with the MEST universe. Then you put this thing into competition and you’d mock up this girl. And you didn’t have much experience so you didn’t know what a girl should look like. And the MEST universe’d come along – you thought it was the MEST universe – some other thetan’d come along! Beautiful mock-up of a girl. Oh, lovely. Oh, gee! And you’d go – „Boy, that’s really something! And this… this thing of mine? Naw.“ | You start running a preclear on flows, you get a preclear who’s running flows and you don’t turn it immediately into mock-up processing, but you just let the flows run, I’ll tell you what’s going to happen. His ability to do mock-ups will reduce, just like if you let a preclear start using pieces of the MEST universe or pieces of his facsimiles to patch up his mock-ups, something like that, why, it isn’t going to assist him. He’s saying „The MEST universe has to be leaned on in order for me to have a mock-up.“ |
And then there’s a certain sort of feeling about something you haven’t made yourself to it, that furnishes interest. You have to have something somebody else has. | Well, he’s leaning on it quite a bit anyway, but if he starts leaning on it in mock-ups too, that’ll lead to most anything. |
A lot of idiocy in this because you wasn’t educated, fella! You was ignorant. In fact, you was stupid! You talk about the gullibility of an early track thetan. We’ve never mentioned this before because he’s in a state of capability of knowingness; he didn’t have any data. Oh, boy! Was he stupid! Somebody’d come around to him and say, „You just won a contest!“ And he says, „I did?!“ | So there we have then the Chart of Attitudes as a process. And uh… I recommend anything that changes postulates. That’s even senior, you see, to making things, mocking up and so on. That’s way up the line. |
Well, now fortunately, you don’t have to keep an education in terms of facsimiles. You can just park it as knowingness. | Or, if you must run flows, run the straight flow Agree – Disagree, if you MUST run a flow. Get Agree – Disagree, Communicate – Not Communicate, or Communicate Out – Communicate In. Or the characteristics of emotion – if you have to run them. |
In SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL we had something about theta enturbulates with MEST, and then frees itself from MEST with a knowingness of what MEST is; that’s in SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL. It impinges itself too heavily upon MEST and then withdraws. And then it’ll impinge itself and withdraw, and impinge itself and withdraw. And that cycle goes down until it knows all there is to know about MEST. | But it would be a strange obsession if you ran flows in preference to creative processing. Easiest way to run flows is just the way I was running them on you tonight. Very easy. Turn a firehouse in a guy’s face if you want to run a flow, and then change the firehouse all around – you think you’re running an electronic flow. |
Well, we don’t know all there is to know about MEST, but you don’t have to know all there is about MEST. | There’s another way to run flows which is quite interesting, is run invisible flows, and have him make out how he knows they are invisible flows, why he knows they are invisible flows and that sort of thing. Sound, you see, is an invisible flow. And it’s quite aberrative because a person can’t control as well that which is invisible as he can control things that are visible. So sound, therefore, has a terrific power over him that light doesn’t. And therefore he’ll lose his hearing acuteness before he loses his sight acuteness. |
You pull out an awful lot of information right now. What a cagey character you would be – boy! If you… did you ever hear of this? This old guy, he’s standing outside the high school and he’s looking at all these beautiful young girls walking out. He’s standing there, wise and old, and old and very old. And he says, „Boy, if I was only 16 again and know what I know now.“ | It’s harder to control sound because you can’t see it. And that’s why we are very sound in processing words. |
Yes, yes. You’re in the same position as that old viper. You actually can look at these precious morsels, but you have a knowingness about it. Never discount it. You’d better pick up your full track knowingness. The only way you do this, by the way, is just run mock-ups about not knowing, and so forth – knowing and not knowing and so on. | All right – very early in the game – they’re sound. They’re made out of sound; they’re symbols of sound; you couldn’t see them, so forth. If you want to know how aberrative sound is, why that’s a test to make – which we’re going to go into. |
How do you mock up knowing and not knowing? Well, I’ll have to tell you all about that in the second lecture tonight. Transposition of symbols to language… how do… language… what does it become and why. | Now, this kind of processing of actualities is nowhere as good as mock-ups, but processing postulates is much, much senior. And making a person mock up emotions and mock up various other things is much senior to any of the other classes of processing. |
All right, knowingness, then, doesn’t really depend upon data, and there is a basic knowingness that is you that exists without wave length. It’s a funny thing to say, but it’s true. The capability of knowingness is all at the same level: The amount of data which can absorb, changes. A person can be very naive and way up tone scale, and then he becomes sadder and wiser. And for the first time in this universe, really, homo sapiens has been able to take the knowledge gained and back out. That’s very valuable. In other words, you don’t have to keep on digging in. | So you do mock-ups as senior to all processes done to date, and then postulate changing as senior to mock-ups. And make sure when you’re changing postulates, you’re changing postulates. |
It may even be… it may even be your track is sort of going according to plan. I mean, this might be the exit depot. You don’t know; it might be. Maybe I don’t tell you everything. Maybe this is all science fiction I tell you, anyway. | Now that’s… that Chart of Attitudes there is all categories of knowledge that we need to monkey with at this time. It’s really all cycles of action. |
By the way, I… I hope it gets lots of publicity as such. Boy, it’ll make you guys free for a long time. | Now let’s cover a little bit about mock-ups. Now I can say a lot more about mock-ups, but let me… let me cover mock-ups very briefly here in this little sequence of the processes we are using. |
One day, one of you’ll get very ambitious and pick up five yellow cabs as they come down. You couldn’t get a yellow cab, you couldn’t get a yellow cab, and you finally say, „Damn these yellow cabs!“ And instead of mocking up a yellow cab, you suddenly pick up the first yellow cab, and you get the second yellow cab and the third yellow cab and you put them up on the top of one of the high buildings around – turn their motors off so they don’t skid and run off the top of the building, and leave them there. People say, „Who did this?“ | Mock-ups are done by gradient scale and you get the least he can get. Don’t concentrate on visio any more than you would on any other part of the band. Don’t go goofing off on the subject of all visio, all visio and no sound; all visio, all visio and no emotion. All visio – no, sir. You get the emotions out of those things, this guy, and so on. |
Well, we’re going to issue a lot of little cards and have the little cards say, „You have abandoned your godliness.“ It’s a good motto: Abandoned your godliness. You don’t say what the godliness is, but everybody thinks they know what you’re talking about, and you know darn we’ll what you’re talking about. | Use, at the beginning, simple geometric forms in preference to complex forms. Use black and white to improve color. If your preclear’s having trouble, look over the problem from the standpoint of space, because you’ve got to have space before you can have mock-ups. He might not have any space. |
It’s true too. | This would be a big joke on you, you know, to be sitting there and you’re running him and running him, and he hasn’t got any space to put these mock-ups in. |
All right. And then, all of a sudden, why it will become something else than that. Actually, incredibility is the finest guise in the world for a secret. It’s too incredible; nobody believes it. How do you suppose this MEST universe got itself covered up? At every stage you’ve been in, any other stage was too incredible. You see, that’s that win… backflow. If you’ve got to believe, if it’s enforced belief, there’s also going to be inhibited belief. And when the guy really got down scale he couldn’t possibly get out because he had inhibited belief. He had to distrust. When he tried to believe he’d distrust. And you wonder why people down along that lower band of the scale can’t believe in any god. Why, no god’s safe in their hands. They can’t believe. | And the first rule about mock-up processing would be, of course, not what you give the preclear but what you find out the preclear’s doing. It’s more important for you to know what the preclear’s doing than it is for you to have a… have a large repertoire on the subject of mock-ups. Because you can turn mock-ups into a high level of generality that doesn’t strain yourself at all. |
So, get this action, then. Let’s get the quality of these things. You’ll find all of these things delineated in your textbook. You’ll find they do consist of a fairly good state of being. They also describe, to some degree, the quality of a mock-up. If you couldn’t make a mock-up… a year from now, if you’re not able to make a mock-up senior to you as you sit there, that can do more and act faster in your universe, I’ll disown you – (I think I’ll disown you anyway). | But we could make up something… we could make up something called a uh… yeah, a routine. We could… we could make up a routine. Now we could do a routine with a mock-up. Now a routine with a mock-up might run something like this, „In front of you, behind you, to your right side, to your left side, above your head, below your feet. In front of you 20 feet away, behind you 20 feet, to the right side 20 feet, to the left side 20 feet, above you 20 feet and below you 20 feet. In front of you a hundred feet…“ See, you could just have this as a rising scale mock-up. „In front of you a hundred feet, in back of you a hundred feet, to the right of you a hundred feet, to the left of you a hundred feet, above you a hundred feet and below you a hundred feet.“ |
Now, let’s then take a look at this Chart of Attitudes and let’s give you right quick, instead of all this persiflage, let’s give you right quick Rising Scale Processing. How many minutes have I got on that thing? Student: Umm, about a half an hour. LRH: Good. Just right. Time clock’s doing well. | Now you could, to keep the preclear from getting confused, you could call them uh… well, let’s be very original right here on the spot. Let’s just say, „We will have a five foot routine“ and that would mean „In front of you five feet, behind you five feet, to the right five feet, to the left five feet, above you five feet, and below you five feet.“ |
Rising Scale Processing: This is the use to which you put the Chart of Attitudes, and is a method of changing postulates, not a method of running flows. This is, in essence, the essence of Postulate Processing. Postulate Processing is the process or any process which permits an individual to change his postulates – except old engrams. You run out some old engrams and… and of course you change the postulates in it. | Let’s have a routine on ten feet, let’s have a routine on 20 feet, a routine on a hundred feet, a routine on two light-years. |
But uh… this doesn’t talk about that. This is willfully changing postulates. The first thing you’ve got to do is get the person up to a point where they’re flexible with their postulates and fast with them. You do this with mock-ups and so on. And one day – the guy can get almost perfect mock-ups – almost perfect – but… he starts… he says, „I keep running into this or that.“ Or, „I’ve got to change my mind about this.“ Or, „I’ve got to do something else about that.“ | Now we could do a routine on anchor points in the same way. We could have anchor points in front of you, anchor points above you, behind you, around you, anchor points up close, anchor points far away. That sort of thing. But that isn’t as important, because there’s no great this and that on anchor points. |
Well, what you do… what he’s doing is changing postulates. He’ll find out that he starts to do something and he recognizes all of a sudden he can’t do it, and he will just suddenly go, „Rrrrrrr!“ and change this postulate and that postulate and so on. And wipe those postulates out and – make a new postulate. And all of a sudden he’ll say, „Aw, that’s all right. Yeah, I’ve got the lights back up again now. Now she’s doing the rumba.“ He had all these postulates about dancing, and he had this girl and she went around with him, and it was very embarrassing. Every time they went to a nightclub or something of this sort, this mock-up… – rumba would come along and he couldn’t dance with her; she couldn’t rumba, so he… you’d change that. How do you change that? You had to change his postulates that she couldn’t rumba. That dancing was evil; that dancing should be religious; uh… yap-yap-yap-yap. And he’ll. he’ll. just change postulates – Brrrrr! | What… what we would want in this case would be mock-up placements. It’s very silly for the auditor to have to sit there and do those. Well, if you wanted to educate your preclear, you could educate him into doing a routine. But remember that the second you get him grooved into a routine, of course he’ll be able to do just these things and no others. |
That is the process of the thetan. The thetan simply creates by making postulates. He uncreates by changing postulates and unmaking postulates. There is this drill about starting, increasing, decreasing and stopping thought chains… is beneficial in assisting one’s ability to make postulates and uncreate postulates. If you can’t handle your thought flow, if you’ve got a stream of consciousness running, you’re going to have a hard time with postulates. | Yeah. So, your routine, with something that you could turn on and then once in a while vary – vary like mad. |
So what’s Rising Scale Processing? It is one of the phases of Postulate Processing which enables a preclear well before he is uptone – oh hell! – this will work on a VI, it’ll work on a V case – is to shift his postulates. And he does this by rising scale, not by running flows – that’s different. A flow is a flow in, a flow out, a flow in, a flow out. All right, let’s just change postulates. | Now, you could shift it from the front to the right, now shift it back, and so on. |
Now what do we do about postulates? Let’s look at this list for the Chart of Attitudes. Now we have here Survive and Dead. Now what’s that mean? Well, it means that, just like this, we have… Survive is somewhere between 22 and 40. Of course, above 40 the idea of survival is just nonsense. How could anything immortal not survive? | But when you’re handling simple geometric figures, you would be handling dots, discs, circles, triangles, squares, cubes, cylinders, pyramids – simple geometric figures – rather simple. Now get ‘em in all colors and get ‘em in all positions. |
That’s one of the grimmest tricks in the world. You see, you happen to be immortal, and worried about surviving; it’s a typical reverse flow trick of this universe. You’re actually worried hour by hour and day by day about surviving and you’re immortal! All you object to is when you don’t survive, why you forget; something takes away from you hard enough for you not to remember. And as a result you get upset. And what you’re really upset is not about surviving at all, but about knowing. You hate to be in a state of unknowingness. You knew you were there, but you knew you were not supposed to know you were there. You know all about it. You take the Battle of Trafalgar, you know. You know how many men were aboard the ship and how many killed and wounded there were and how… how many dispatches were written up to send them up the river and… and all that sort of thing. | Now don’t let me hear you… any of you having this kind of difficulty: „Well, this preclear can’t change things rapidly“ or… or „This preclear changes things rapidly“ or „This preclear – „ so on. That preclear does what that preclear does as long as that preclear’s doing it. Don’t try to rush him. And don’t try to slow him down. Let him hit his own speed. Only you make sure you find out what he’s doing. Don’t just sit there and optimistically suppose he’s doing everything he says he’s doing. That means that any 1.1 you’ve got your hands on would just fool the hell out of you. Every time you said „in front of you“ he’s thinking „behind him.“ And every time you say „below the feet“ he’s putting it in his right pocket. |
And by the way, this is wonderful science fiction, just wonderful science fiction. God help science fiction writers! God help them! Boy, do they key in. I think of poor old Paget. (I’ll use his pen name – big gag). Poor old Paget. He’s a shaking wreck! He’s a ruin. | The best thing to do is run mock-ups with an E-Meter in the guy’s hands, and you just watch that thing. Because if he’s doing wrong, it’ll be too much of a strain for him and that needle will keep knocking around, knocking around, knocking around. |
You guys know this fellow. You know his stories under a lot of other guises than Paget, and he’s a ruin. He sits there at the typewriter and he types and he thinks he’s disagreeing like mad with the MEST universe. He’s running away from the MEST universe; he’s d… writing escape literature. | You say, „What’s you running, fella?“ |
I picked up one of his stories recently and started reading the history of a ship which is very well known – EXTREMELY well known. And he’s just varied its history. He hasn’t varied a line. He actually is sitting there writing escape literature and, of course, he’s digging in deeper and deeper and deeper, and he’s getting worse and worse. They have to take him in and doctors will sometimes take and give him a course of B1 shots. And they’ll give him 1 or 200 milligrams of B1 every couple of hours to keep him alive. And he’s that bad off. | „Oh,“ he’ll say. „Well, I’m… just what you tell me.“ |
And then he goes back and he works a little bit harder and he works a little bit harder and he works a little bit harder and all of a sudden Wham! B1, B1, rest, rest. Sit down by the seashore, be… take it quiet, take it easy, take it easy. And then he says, „Well, I think I’ll write some more of that escape literature“ and uh… zong! There he goes again. He’s coughing. He can’t stand the sight of a camera… | And you say, „Well now, did you put that last one behind you?“ He’ll say, „Yes,“ and the needle will go „Wham!“ |
I don’t know how long that boy was on the track, or how many spirals, but boy, he’s sure writing ancient history. It’s all dated up in the future, too. He’ll date something up in the future and then he’ll get very careful he doesn’t date it. He actually uses actual dates. He’s playing the very… most wonderful game with himself of not to know. | And you say, „Are you sure you put it behind you?“ |
If you were to put him on uh… if you were to put any of these boys, by the way, on a machine gun you would get something fascinating. You’d get… „Now all right. Now let’s talk about uh… space.“ Space opera, you see, is a very minor point in this universe. Don’t think that it is major at all, because it is not major. And for most people, it is not even part of the track. Space opera is not part of the track at all for most people. It’s only the degraded, the burns, the stiffs, the cliffs, the gyps, the McGees – and the floaters, the flotsam and jetsam, the guy who has rammed around and fallen flat on his face and so on. That… that’s space opera. God! These guys… I could tell you that story of that track… I… I j… I don’t think it would go into English. There are a lot of words in English that are missing. It’s just too wild. And it’s… it’s peculiar… it’s a peculiar story. A very highly specialized story. | „Well, as a matter of fact, I couldn’t get it loose.“ |
The other track comes right straight down on the subject of planets, and uh… in some preclears’ life it’s just fascinating. You find him leading this cozy little home life, and he’s been in this cottage and they were on that farm. And then he was in this city as a little minor tradesman. And in some other place, why, he drove a truck and… and so on. There’s cities and things – nothing shiny. Just pastoral and pretty – nothing to it. | „It’s about time you told me,“ you’ll say. |
Some girls… about the only time you get a… a girl… you get a lot of girls who have been on the space opera track, too. They’ve been boys on the space opera track – or girls, God help them! – Boy are they a mess! They’re really degenerate. They’re walking around here, trying to do a job of being normal. Of course, they’re much smarter, much wiser. And actually, for anybody to have survived that track and still be in a body, it must mean they’re awfully tough. That’s the truth. Like I suppose they put most of the guys who weren’t tough… are still sitting in cans someplace. | You’ll save a lot of time in this wise. Your preclear’s your best E-Meter… pardon me… your auditor should be the best E-Meter, but if he is, then he’s got to keep his eyes on somebody else’s energy all the time. And it’s a strain, so why bother with that? You can sit down and look at an E-Meter dial and relax. You could look at it with ‘theta-vision’ if you want to. You don’t have to look at with MEST vision. That’s right. |
But uh… anyway, this quiet, pastoral scene, the girl… and the only time she ever saw a spaceman or anything like that, she’d heard about it. They’ll show up on a meter. | But – uh… uh… you’ll have a preclear get disgusted every once in a while. You have to remember when you’re running a preclear, when you are outside of your body and you’re running a preclear, remember to keep your eyes open. He’ll think you’re asleep or something and he’ll get upset. Yeah, that’s an idea. |
Well, now you take one of these space opera writers, if he’s really been on that track – he won’t write about it if he hasn’t been. He just won’t have the knack. That doesn’t mean you couldn’t… you couldn’t be ingenious enough to invent the whole thing from one end of the other. That just means they don’t. Also they don’t write science fiction if they haven’t been solidly on that track. They’ll write something else – fantasy, something. | Now uh… next thing you should know about Creative Processing is don’t let this guy get away with having everything going „Brrrrrrrr“ by, and flicker and flack and change and kid himself that „Yeah, he said it to do that. Yeah, he said it to do that.“ Each time, agree late, see? |
All right, put them on a machine. You say, „All right, now let’s take this last story you wrote,“ and it’ll dive. And you’ll say, „What are you diving for? D… Didn’t it sell?“ | „Yeah, well that did that because I really said it, I guess. I’m not sure… I mean hmm.“ Things random as hell. He’s not controlling anything. Yeah, he’s getting beautiful mock-ups. Yeah, it’s „Mock up this way bicycle. Okay, got a bicycle?“ |
„Yes, it sold“ uh… needle falling away. | „Yeah.“ |
And you say, „Well now, take the hero of this thing“ – fall, fall. And uh… you say, „You know, that fellow’s being affected by writing. Now let’s take that detective story which you wrote“ – no motion of the needle at all. „Well, didn’t it sell?“ | „Fine, fine, fine. You got that? That’s good. Good bicycles? Yeah, that’s good. Now let’s put it behind your back. Yeah, good boy.“ |
„No, it didn’t sell. Yeah, I got a reject on that.“ Yeah. That’s ve… very interesting. | What d… what he’s got is… what he’s got is a bicycle which changed to a 1912 bicycle which changed to a little kid riding a tricycle which changed to an ape in a circus riding a monocycle. And he… this is happening without his consent at all. I mean, he’s got a bicycle and it’s going in all directions. That’s automaticity taking place, see? You find out if he got the bicycle. |
So you say, „Well, this guy must be all keyed in and hallucinating. He just must have been driven mad by writing all these stories. So let’s examine all these stories carefully.“ And what do you know? They start blowing as locks. | Remember that conserve is middle scale. You’ve got to teach him to conserve as well as destroy. And if a person is having this trouble and he’s having it very badly and he really can’t control mock-up worth a doggone, have him controlling spots and dots. That’s the favorite. And „Put a dot up there.“ |
Locks on what? Well, let’s put him back on the machine again. And let’s ask him, „All right now, have you ever been in a space ship?“ WHAM! | Now he’ll ask you all sorts of questions. „Do you think I’m just imagining it? Or am I… are you really supposed to see it?“ A guy that asks you that is really worried. He’s worried about one thing; he’s worried about hallucinating. He’s afraid that if he really sees something he’ll hallucinate. He… he’s… he’s sure of it. |
„Oh, don’t ask me questions like that,“ he says. „You make me think I’m imagining things, or something.“ | And very often a person who has had a great deal of experience with people who hallucinate will be instinctively afraid of getting a controlled mock-up. Remember that. |
You say, „Well, have you ever been in a space ship?“ | Hallucination is an uncontrolled, unwelcome, come-and-go-without – being-asked thing. And a mock-up is a heavily controlled thing, and if a person just imagines the concept of it or something like that – huh – hmmmmm. Because we get our next definition of a mock-up. A mock-up occupies space of the preclear’s creation. It occupies a space. It isn’t an imaginary’ picture, it isn’t something he kind of sees in his mind. There is a mechanism in the mind which will see little imaginary pictures. And they go by flickity – flickity-flickety-flick. It’s usually a circuit. Yes, it’s controlled to some degree, but that’s not a mock-up. A mock-up’s out in front. A mock-up has distance from the preclear. A mock-up has substance. And when you get good on them they have body. And you want your… drill your preclear about reaching over and feeling the body of the mock-up every once in a while – the thickness of it. |
„Well, gee! I get nervous.“ | The guys have been putting up cardboard pictures all this time. And you say, „Get a cardboard picture two feet thick.“ |
„Well, how about hands? Uh… well, how about trying to get… how about blow-ups in space?“ I mean, anything like this, and so on. „Were you ever there? What was the year? What year were you a member of the Galactic Police Force Espionage Corps“ – something or other. WHAM! WHAM! WHAM! | „No, I can’t do that. I…“ |
And you say, „What story did you write about this?“ | „Well, feel the thickness of the cardboard you’ve got it on.“ |
He’ll tell you, „Skylark“. I’m… I’m… that’s all… I don’t know anything about HIS past history, E. E. Smiths. Uh… he’ll say, „Well, it’s such-and-such a year. Yeah.“ You get a needle reaction. | „Ha-ha! What do you know! I DO have it on thick cardboard. Yes, about an inch thick.“ |
„Now,“ you say, „how about the stories you’ve written about that?“ Tiny little needle reaction – keying out. | „Well, all right, let’s… let’s just swell that guillotine out there to the proper blade width. Now let’s feel it the proper blade width. You got that? |
„Now, let’s take the SKYLARK and let’s go over it a little bit further and a little bit more on this.“ Oh, boy! We’re starting to get the big action on the actuality and no action on the story. And then you just turn it up and… not by slanting the questions or anything, you just turn it up, just try and get some kind of a charge on the stories. | „Ah, it’s a cardboard blade. I can tell – I can bend it.“ |
But you’ll get charge right straight across the boards on it was biographical or autobiographical. And all of a sudden this guy will start to reel and he’ll start to cough and he’ll say, „You know, I feel a helmet. I’m sure it must be a helmet. My ears are ringing like mad. I can’t understand it. My ears often ring when I’m writing. Come to think of it, they only ring when I’m writing about space stories, and I get that feeling right now. It’s like a goldfish bowl or something closing down over my… yeah, you keep your chin down in order to keep the earphones open. Oh, no!“ And you say, „Well, now let go of it.“ „Oh, I can’t!“ | „Well, put a steel blade on it. Oh, I know, let’s have a real good guillotine. Let’s have a solid gold blade. Now feel that blade – you got that? It’s got depth, huh?“ |
„What would happen if you let go of it? What would happen if you didn’t have it?“ | „Yeah, what do you know? It’s got depth.“ In other words, work it out with him. |
“Oh, no… nothing.“ Needle – WHAM-WHAM! | This mock-up has got to be better than anything the real universe – hah! laughingly called – can possibly produce. In the end, that’s the test of a mock-up. Is that senior to anything there is in this universe? Is it better? Brother, it better be. That’s all you’re doing. The MEST universe has been in contest with your preclear, saying, „Nya, your illusions are no good. You can’t create anything. You haven’t got any strength. You haven’t got any force. Nya, nya, nya.“ Criticize, criticize. Bark his shins, kick him in the head, fix him up. Get him to agree again; throw him into a snake pit; get him to agree further. Then pull him out and say, „You’re no good,“ and so forth. „We promised you the moon. Yes, I know. We promised you the moon. You can have the moon – it’s all full of grit. Here. You’ve got the moon. We’re pushing it in your face this minute.“ Crunch! |
Of course, he’s out in the middle of space. He’d spatter all over the landscape if he let go of it out there in a vacuum. | Typical, you see? I mean, it’s uncontrolled! It’s not his – his sense of ownership is bad. |
„Well, all right now. Let’s… what would happen if you took it off?“ | Well, let’s go to another step about mock-up processing. You know that if you were to put out eight anchor points and stabilize them with the preclear in the center – he isn’t out of his body or anything else – and just have him sit there and hold those anchor points – I don’t care how long – 80 hours – one hour – two hours – half an hour – I don’t care how long you do this. It doesn’t matter. An anchor point is an anchor point. There isn’t supposed to be any action in it and no action will take place. |
„I can’t take it off, see“ – needle falling. You finally coax him out of this idea, and so forth, you find he’s got a cracked helmet on or something. He’s… he’s practically dying. And you run him on all these incredible situations. He starts to perk up and he gets happier and he gets cheerfuller and he gets to feeling better and he gets to feeling better and better and better. And then he says, „I just thought of some good space opera. But,“ he says, „I think I’ll write a detective story.“ He loses interest in it. | You’ve given him some space. And the first thing you know the… the walls – there aren’t any walls. You’ve just put out eight points, you see, and he’ll feel this dark substance kind of moving in and out of them, and he’ll feel the wall kind of creak. He isn’t putting out any effort at all except to hold the anchor points. He isn’t pushing this stuff back out. And don’t let him start either. Let’s just de… de… feel this thing going on. He’ll feel his body sort of going „creak“ and it’s very strange. And all of a sudden he’ll… he’ll have a… he’ll very often have the funniest sensation: „You know, I’ve got some space of my own?“ |
A lot of your bad science fiction is written by boys who… they were just bad the whole track, but they weren’t very bad. The guys who really write the good stuff, and so forth, boy were they horrible! | And he’ll actually feel ridges leaving him, and he’ll feel his breadth and expansion a little bit. And he’ll feel so restful. |
What are you laughing about? | If you want to know the way to go to sleep, by the way, just put out eight anchor points and hold them there. Beautiful feeling – just gorgeous. |
Yeah-yeah. I never wrote any science fiction myself. People think I’ve written it. That’s right. It doesn’t classify as science fiction. | The next step to that is to put out eight anchor points and hold them there and not let anything else be in it. But put something else in it. Throw a chair into the middle of your eight points. And then get it, finally, to where that chair doesn’t exist in the eight points. Get complete nonexistence of the chair. And do it on a gradient scale. Get a little matchbox to put out there, and finally get that selected out of. You know, it’s there but you’re not admitting its presence. And then finally it just isn’t there – for you. |
There’s ‘One Was Stubborn’. There’s a story which you would be vastly amused about in this class. It appeared in Astounding Stories, many years ago – probably 1940. ‘One Was Stubborn’. It is a civilization which was… it isn’t space opera, see? It’s usually about civilizations, things like that. It was a story about a civilization which was buckling under the terrific agreement on the subject of Christian Science. It was just caving in on it. But there was one guy who didn’t believe in Christian Science. And it’s his fate at the end of the story. It’s called ‘One Was Stubborn’ – a terrific application of what we’re doing right this minute. It’s fascinating. | Then put a chair in, or put something else in or put a couch in – or something heavier in amongst those eight points. And then put something very heavy in there. And just hold the eight points until it’s gone. Your space, see? |
And uh… there was a story called ‘Final Blackout’. Actually it was a political commentary and a character study of an officer, that’s all it was. It’s laid right here on Earth, and a very short time into the future. A lot of these other things. | Well, you shouldn’t make the decision to pull these in yourself, if you’re doing it yourself; you do this for the preclear. |
Once in a great while I’d write something that had to do with that. | By the way, an auditor prevents the preclear from making decisions – really. If the preclear had to make postulates about all these things, he wouldn’t get well near as fast. The auditor makes these postulates for him and that’s perfectly all right. Can you finally see the mechanism behind that? He has to say, „Now I will imagine there is…“ or „Now I will mock Up…“ |
You take the UMS stories, the Ole Doc Methulesah stories and so forth – straight off the record. No fiction to them really. They’re hopped up; that’s about all. | And the auditor says, „Now put a…“ so he hasn’t had to postulate that it was not there before he put it there. The auditor says, „Well now, put it there,“ and he puts it there. |
Now here we’ve got… real death would be thetan death, and it would lie down below minus 8 here. And uh… you’d get homo sapiens would be somewhere in the neighbourhood… his death would be here, at 0.0. | And uh… so let’s get a… an eight-point space and let’s put a chair in it and a sofa in it and – a real chair, you understand. I mean, you know – this chair. Some chair – put it in there and then just have it there in that eight-pointed space, with those eight anchor points, until it’s not there, until the guy’s fairly sure that chair’s not there, until he’s POSITIVE that chair isn’t there. What do you know? He’s got a body in there! He’s got a body in those eight points. He can make MEST objects disappear. Well, he can handle the body better than he can MEST objects. |
So, let’s take a look here – dead… death, homo sapiens, and let’s find up here is alive. Now let’s do a rising scale processing on the scale of Survival-Dead. | All of a sudden he realizes the body’s not there and he simply moves off as a thetan – negative clearing. |
„What do you think“ – you say this to this preclear – „What’s your idea of your chances of survival?“ Preclear thinks it over for a minute. | Now you could do this. You can sometimes set up the four corner points of a room as this, and you start doing it, and then the guy…it knows it isn’t his space. He’s using MEST universe corner points. And therefore he realizes anything can come into that space – anything can. And he’s liable to find gorillas and giraffes and wild elephants and dogs and cats and airplanes flying through it. And he’s scared to do anything about it, and he can’t move out of the body because he hasn’t got any space to move to. You’ve got to make him create the space by putting these anchor points out. You don’t mock up anchor points – don’t make that mistake. You don’t mock up an anchor point. You put an anchor point out. An anchor point is real. It has actuality. Just because it doesn’t hang around and bong against the MEST universe every way you turn isn’t any reason why you… why it’s not real. |
Well, answer this question yourself: What’s your idea of your own chance of survival? Just face it bluntly and get what your current opinion is of your chance of survival. Take in all possible fields. What’s your current – opinion? | An anchor… don’t get the idea… give the preclear the idea, „Well now, mock up some anchor points,“ uh-uh. |
All right, now take that opinion, whatever it was, and by the way, what was yours? | If you want to get outside and take a look at the GE, you’ll find out he’s got anchor points. |
Huh? Inevitable? | For instance, Nibs was telling me to get up – I never tried that for some reason or other. It never occurred to me. You start pushing around the GE’s anchor points, and they’re not like your own anchor points at all. They snap back into position – they move right back into position again. You can push them out of the road – they’re way out. But you can push them out of the road and they move back into position again. |
(No, before Scientology it was an awful long time, and now it’s ‘Forever.’) | So, what have we got then in terms of space? This is another method of space, another method of the body, another method of mock-ups. You could reverse a mock-up then, can’t you? Well, after a guy’s been running for a short time with mock-ups, mock-ups, mock-ups, he can make mock-ups, gradient scale. If they change too fast, if he can’t control ‘em, for God sakes give him something he can control. „Little black spot on the wall.“ That’s black and white control processing. We’ll go into that more deeply. But black and white control processing – until he can hold it steady and he doesn’t get a lot of randomity in it. Give him as much as he can control and then let him learn how to control that. And he’ll get there. |
Oh, it is? Good. | And then you get a negative result, finally. You’ll get him good at… you’ll get him so good at creating his own things, that he can uncreate MEST objects in his area. |
What was yours? | Well now if you were just to give a guy practice in mock-ups and practice in mock-ups and then let him get around to a point where he’s pretty good with mock-ups, just fair with mock-ups, and then you could run him into the… uncreating MEST. He can always uncreate MEST to the degree that he can create mock-ups – that’s for himself. |
(Same) | And if he can create mock-ups that are visible to others and solid to others, he can uncreate MEST that is observably uncreated by others. |
Okay. What’s yours? | A lot of times when you’re doing this, it’ll key in some existence as a magician on your preclear and he’ll start doing it all with black cloths, by the way. And instead of making something disappear, he’ll hol… haul a black cloth over it. And instead of making it, uh… uh… change or shift or something, why he’ll turn a cloth around or do something like that. You find out what he’s doing. He keeps talking about all this blackness in the area – he has some kind of an existence as a magician. Or he has used this blackness, and he’s using blackness to make objects disappear and appear again. And that’s no good, of course. Just give him his surfeit of black cloth. Just give him all the black cloth you can possibly give him. Just give him lots of black cloth, just give him lots of it. And then have him take a little tiny piece of it and tear it up and throw it away. And then give him black and white spot processing and control processing. And then give him black cloths again – lots of them. Give him… oh, just fill the joint up with curtains and curtains and curtains. And then have him make somebody walk through the curtains. And then fold them all up and sell them for enormous cost. And then mock up some more, and so on. Until he’s so damned tired of black cloths! |
(About the same.) | And he finally says, „All right, I’ll just make it disappear.“ It stands there, and it goes. |
Is that what you got? Hell, you people aren’t… don’t need it… I mean… Well, did anybody… What was yours? | You’ve got to drill a guy in time. And he very often will use black cloths to cover up the fact that he hasn’t actually made something disappear. Something will be out there and you s… you say, „All right, put it in yesterday.“ |
(Well, I answered the question ‘Very good.’ You asked the question…) | And he’ll say, „Okay.“ The only trouble was he dropped a black cloth over it. It’s still there. He’s convinced he can’t make anything disappear. So you’d better work on something to make it disappear. |
All right. Very good. Your chances of survival are very good. How long? | And if he really can’t ever make anything disappear, you give him a real MEST object and make him disappear that one. How does he disappear that one? Give him a toothpick and let him throw it out the window. |
(I can’t answer that question.) | Now, in other words, uh… at least get down to some level of activity where he can make these things come about. |
Ah! We’ve got a ‘don’t know’ survival. „Very good, but I don’t know.“ All right. Let’s take that: „Very good but I don’t know“ and let’s see if we can’t get a higher opinion on it. Just sort of shift it up to a higher, better opinion on it… Well, get that other opinion, kind of hold it for a moment. „Very good, but I really don’t know“ – to a little bit better opinion. | Now this uncreation follows… uncreation of MEST is a process right along with with creation of mock-ups. You can call it ‘unmocking’ because MEST is just a mock-up. That is, I’m telling you that because we’re shaky on our pins that we don’t know where MEST is. I can sure handle MEST – I’m sure you can too. But the truth of the matter is that you can take MEST away, in your space, really, surely as good as you could mock things up in your space. |
(Excellent here.) | Now I… I want you to try that. I want you to try that. I want you to put some anchor points right now a few inches below the floor. Now unmock the floor. A few inches below the floor – unmock the floor. Just get the floor non-existent. It’ll give you a funny feeling if you do it. Sure you can take the floor right out from underneath you. – |
All right, now let’s get it from ‘excellent’ up to a higher opinion. | Actually, if any of you were really up scale, batting up around 6 or 8 on the tone scale with your mock-ups and so forth, you’d actually have a little trouble here. You’d probably have to take it up with John over there, and Helen, because pieces of the floor had probably gone missing – get thin. |
(There’s two things I can’t get the concept uh… first the chance of survival uh… in relation to time…) | Now the upshot of this is that there is a method of springing the thetan. The thetan is in a what? A MEST universe object. So you do mock-ups, mock-ups, mock-ups, mock-ups, mock-ups, mock-ups. That’s fine. Lots of drill. Hell, don’t forget that there’s another process. It’s unmocking. |
Hm-hm. | Now, all right. Now let’ s get… put out anchor points. That’s spacation – getting him oriented in space. If he can’t get oriented in his own space, why get him oriented in… in… in MEST universe space at least, somewhat. Then get him oriented by putting out his own anchor points, and practice with that for a little while. And then get him into doing… doing mock-ups in that space. And then the next thing you do is put MEST objects in, actual MEST objects in – and unmock them. |
(…chance of survival in relation to uh… well, anything other than time.) | He’s in a body. You see, it’d be the same thing – if he could unmock the body, he could move out of it. It couldn’t hold him if it weren’t there in terms of a mock-up. Just as he could move into one of his own mock-ups and feel its weight. Well, he could… if he could unmock the body thoroughly, he, of course, would be free as a thetan. He could move anyplace. |
Beingness. | So when your tough, real tough cases, and so forth… you can follow this process of unmocking. |
(Beingness.) | Now, you carry this process of unmocking far enough, you can mock up things that people can see, and you can unmock things and so on. |
Umm-hmm. There’s a maybe on that somehow. Then there’d be two things: Your chance of survival as homo sapiens? | So your next level… your next level of process – another thing on this – your next level of process above that is use of force. You’d come back every once in a while and start using force. And get the guy so good at using force he doesn’t have to use force. You don’t learn to use force by not wanting… just… just by saying, „To hell with force. I’m going to do this otherwise.“ You’re going to have to go through force objects, you’re going to have to be able to use force; I’m afraid that’s the only way out of it. |
(Yeah.) | And you go through this process: you have him pick up his f… one finger, and then you have him pick up two fingers, and then you have him pick up three fingers – using beams. They can do that very early in the case, lots of times. Have them pick up beams and then have them… have them pick up a finger and move a finger sideways. And then pick up the whole hand. And then pick up the hand up to the elbow. And then pick up the hand and yank it straight up into the air and throw it backwards. And… and uh… the guy is outside, of course. He has to be outside to do this. |
Well, what’s your opinion of your survival as homo sapiens? | And uh… as far as I know. I guess maybe he could lean over. I guess you could, really, lean over your hand and put a beam down from the center of your… now that doesn’t sound very practical. It’s easier to move outside. |
(That’s the ‘very good’, I guess.) | Anyway, uh… you could go ahead. And you pick up the hand, and then you get so that you pick up the other hand. And then… and because the guy is free to move objects which he customarily moves. He’s very convinced these objects are movable. |
Hmm? Not very good? | Now after he’s picked up hand after hand after hand, arms and both arms and so on, have him pick up his ankles – various methods of doing this. You put up a couple of anchor points and put a line from the anchor points, down around the ankle and have it hold hard and then shorten the line. Or push the anchor points wider. Very simple. |
(I say, „That is the ‘very good’„.) | Or you erect a tripod and lengthen the tripod – any kind of a jerry-rig he cares to make. He’s actually picking up the hand with postulates, but he knows he has to use force. And so you’ll have to use force in order to do that so as to get up to a point where you can do it without force.’ It’s going through the middle of the scale. |
Oh, that’s the ‘very good’. How… what about the other one – you don’t know? | All right, when he gets so that his hand can be picked up and his arm can be picked up and his legs can be picked up, why have him pick up his body rather forcefully – one direction or another – and handle his body from outside. Boy, that is worth a lot of processing: a guy gets bigger and stronger and tougher. |
(That’s the ‘don’t know’.) | But remember, in every case, as an auditor, that you mustn’t let him exceed what he can comfortably do at any one time. Keep insisting he do it, but grade it down a little bit so he’s always accomplishing something. In an all gradient scale – that’s the motto of the gradient scale – he must accomplish at least some of it. And you’ve got to do that. You mustn’t leave the auditor… you mustn’t leave the preclear in a failure. |
Oh, that’s the ‘don’t know’. We’ve got the ‘don’t know’. All right. Can you take that ‘don’t know’ and shift it any higher as a postulate? | I was going to say the preclear mustn’t leave the auditor in a failure either. It’s up to him, too. |
(I don’t quite get the question. How do you…?) | Actually where you guys are processing each other, the favorite trick of a preclear leaving the auditor in a failure is one that ought to have the preclear’s teeth kicked in. A preclear ought to be very careful never to leave the auditor in a failure. Never come around the next day and say, „I had a terrible slump… terrible slump right after you audited me, and I went in a terrible spin, and so forth. I felt… feel much better because you audited me but I’m in a terrible spin.“ |
Well, could you shift it up to ‘might be’ from just flatly ‘don’t know’. Could you say „Well, it might… might be able to survive. There might be something there to survive“? | Nuts! The auditor will audit you again. You don’t have to do that. |
(Well, I think ‘might be’ would be below ‘don’t know’. ‘Don’t know’, to me, is in the middle.) | Now… so anyway, uh… you start lifting a fellow up like this one way or the other and you get him very accustomed to handling force. Now don’t think just because he’s picked up his hands, arms and legs and made the body sit up and lie down again that you’ve really done a job on the exercise known as lifting. You haven’t done such an exercise yet. You supplement that exercise with mock-ups. You make him mock up something and lift it, mock up something and lift it, mock up something incredibly heavy and lift it, and then have him lift a part of his body. Don’t leave him in periods of long agreement with the MEST universe. |
Oh, that’s in the middle? | „Lift the body, lift the body.“ Then „Mock up a body and lift it. Mock up a body and lift it.“ Then „Lift the body. Lift the body. Mock up another body and lift it. Heavier, bigger, stronger body,“ and so on. You’ll find out that he’ll stay very well off. |
(Yeah.) | Otherwise you’ll find his energy what? Declining, because he’s agreeing with the MEST universe and the energy in the MEST universe is triggered and rigged so he will decline the more he uses it, unless he also creates in his own universe at the same time. |
What’s above ‘don’t know’? | And you can find yourself doing that from here on out as long as you hang around this universe. You’ll be in a good shape as long as you alternate these two things. When you do something in the MEST universe, do a mock-up. Do a mock-up. Do the ‘mock-up a lot better. |
(Above ‘don’t know’ is uh… ‘good’.) | If you insist on handling things with MEST universe laws, and so forth, mock ‘em up and handle them with some other laws. Then alternate that. Here you are walking around 24 hours a day, agreeing with the MEST universe. Well, get in a few mock-ups – much more important TO YOU PERSONALLY. |
Good. (Below… below ‘don’t know’ is uh… possibly ‘barely probable’. In other words, ‘don’t know’ is in the middle and sort of uh…) | It’s more important really – that low on the tone scale you may… maybe don’t see this – but it’s really more important to you to do a good mock-up than to do a good job down at the factory or something. It’s more important. It’ll work out in the long run to be. |
All right. | So this lifting is quite interesting. You do your mock-up interspersed with – and remember too that when you mock up, why you have to go through the same series and sequences as always. But on your… on your lifting, work for speed. Don’t just get… work for force. Don’t try to be a barbell man, you know. Get down there and go „Creak – creak – creak. Look! Muscles! Look! Facsimiles!“ Same thing: muscles, facsimiles. And „Creak – and now I’ve got it up here and it’s only taken me a half an hour to get it up to my shoulders. And just a minute while we read another copy of Bernard McFadden’s latest magazine.“ And uh… you’ve… you’ve got that… |
(…halfway in between.) | Now don’t get that at all. You aren’t trying to build a tank. You’re trying to build a fast plane. You want this guy so he can pick the arm, throw it up it full length, a way an arm could never fly if you were just uh… lifting it with muscles. Pick it up at full length, practically knock it out of its socket again, and drop it – disconnect! Learn how to disconnect. Handle and disconnect; handle and disconnect. And for God’s sakes, if you never do anything else in drills at all, learn how to disconnect! |
All right; well, can you get a better opinion on it? | One thing you never learn. You have to hold to „you want, you want.“ And all the energy you’re surrounded with says, „I want you, I want you,“ or „Don’t want me,“ or something like that. |
(I can get the concept of a better opinion.) But can you GET a better opinion on it? Or does the opinion have to have data? | It… it’s all saying, „Don’t disconnect! Don’t disconnect! Don’t disconnect!“ As a consequence, the first time you get your preclear out there and throw him… have him throw a tractor beam on something, you say, „Now turn it off.“ Yeah, he can turn it off. Yeah, sure. Five, six, ten minutes – three seconds, eight seconds. That’s slow! That’d be… |
(That’s right.) | Would you turn some guy loose with an automobile who had a one-minute reaction time? He saw the stoplight and one minute later put on the brakes. Wouldn’t be safe, would it? |
Uhh-huhh. | Now, would you turn somebody loose with an automobile who had a three-second reaction time? He sees the stoplight and he puts on the brakes – sees the spotlight and two and three. Boy, there’s an awful lot of fenders smashed in that period of time. That’s not safe. That’s a… that’s fast for a lot of preclears. They put a tractor beam on something, you say, „Now turn it off“ and the second you say, „Turn it off,“ it’ll be turned off about – one, two, and he’s cut it off. |
(I think that’s what’s lacking.) All right. So that’s hanging up, and uh… an opinion can hang up or c… condition can originate or generate for the lack of a datum. | Ahhh, he might as well take a gun and shoot himself, theta-wise. It’s murder! You mean, when a body gets hurt on which he’s got a tractor beam – for some reason or other – when that body gets hurt, he can’t get that tractor beam off? The second he sees the body is going to get hurt, he can’t get the tractor beam off fast enough. Because at this moment he’s rattled. He sees the body is going to be hurt. It’s… he’s rattled and he tries to disconnect and it’s going to take him that long? That’s why he’s here. |
In other words, you can get randomity caused by a missing datum. Or you can get a ‘maybe’ caused by a missing datum. So here’s a missing datum showing up preventing a postulate. You could go ahead and ask what he has to know, and so forth. | Out West when they used to bury a dead man they’d say, „A case of ‘too slow’.“ And I can look at all the cases in the room and know that I’m looking at a case called ‘too slow’. |
That’s very good. But when we ask for an upper shift of a postulate, let’s get an upper shift on this one: Right, and down here, Wrong. And uh… where are you on… on Rightness? How right do you think you are? | Get that drill. Turn those tractor beams on… just put them on something and hold it still. You don’t have to move it. Just put a couple of tractor beams on something and turn them off. Put them on something – turn them off. Put a mock-up out here and put a tractor beam on it, and turn it off. Put a mock-up – turn it off. Mock – turn it off. Put it on a real object – turn it off. Real object – turn it off. Your own objects – turn it off. Real objects – your own object – turn it off. MEST universe objects – turn it off. |
(Oh, I’m generally right.) | And then what? When you’re picking up pieces of this body, learn to hit and run. Pick ‘em up and hold them once in a while just to show you can get the persistence, hold ‘em for a half an hour. So, a half an hour’s nothing. They’re… just hang a line up so they’ll stay up half an hour. It’s all right. |
Generally right. Well, you can do better than that. Let’s get this postulate, this concept ‘generally right’ and let’s shift it up higher. | Uh… used to do that every once in a while. It used to upset people like mad. Put your arm up in the air and just hold it there in an uncomfortable position, up like this. And of course, you’re not holding your arm up at all. You’ve got a line on it. It’s just staying there. |
(Well, uh… it doesn’t make any difference uh…) | Or can you imagine anybody’s body staying in this position, perfectly steady for an hour? There’s no trick to it at all. It’s that kind of thing the yogis saw… saw some boys doing with dolls way back on the track and the yogi’s been trying ever since. All you do is hang the body up or tie in some direction or other and go off and leave, you see? It’s like tethering a horse. Anyway, uh… now, picking up a limb and dropping it is terribly important. Pick up a limb – drop it. Pick up a limb – drop it. You know what it works out to be finally? It works out to be you don’t put lines on ‘em any more. You say, „The limb will lift and drop.“ The limb will lift. There it is – very peculiar. |
…If you are right? | But you have to be tough enough with force to be able to do it with force before you can say to a limb, „It will now lift.“ See? |
(I mean, I’m right as far as I’m concerned and that’s the important thing.) | So you do that drill, do it fast. And then get so you can pick up the whole body, drop it down on the floor. I won’t tell you where to go from there. If you haven’t figured it out by this time, you ought to quit! |
Uh-huh. Can you shift it higher than that? | There’s one thing about this whole thing! Don’t you go throwing this planet out of its orbit! Now I can give you the names and addresses of quite a few planets, and I’ll even go with you in great cooperation, great cooperation on a very specific subject: I will incinerate and help you burn up pieces of country or towns, if you must, that you don’t like about the planet. But let’s not get so generalized. |
(I get the concept that I’m just about always right naturally.) | Now if we’ve gone to all the work of getting a lot of auditors together and having a good exit depot, we can have this thing smooth as grass. That’s okay. You could put a nice cordon around it so anything comes in – a spaceship comes in – why, you just happen to be noticing that we’re going to be in trouble. Or an atom bomb comes over, or something like that, somebody would say, „Hey, look at the atom bomb!“ The fellow takes the fuse out of the thing – it’s coming over at 30,000 miles an hour – and takes the fuse out of the thing, and says, “Hey, yeah! Ha-ha! Isn’t that a funny little top? Hey Bill, can you use some atomic power? Oh, you don’t need any. Well, let’s sell it to somebody. I know somebody I don’t want to survive. Let’s give it to him.“ |
Good, good, good. Let’s… can we get it any higher than that? | Well, let’s not go throwing this planet out of its orbit or getting fancy with it. You understand that. |
(It’s difficult. Yeah, why not?) | Another thing, is don’t go putting the sun out. I know some good suns – you can put those out – lots of ‘em. If you’ve got to put a sun out, mock up your own. Go over, out and beyond and that sort of thing. Because once you’ve gone to all the trouble of orienting and learning the culture of an exit depot – well, you don’t want anybody messing it up too much. |
Yeah, okay. | I know there’s a lot of people we can do without, there’s a lot of thetans we can do without. I know that. We’re not even setting ourselves up as judge and jury on the thing. It happens that they’re completely hopeless. They… they actually wreck themselves on the whole deal. |
Now actually, we could go through this Chart of Attitudes and just shift like that. You say, „All right. what’s your concept, how right you are?“ See, you’re looking for the right-wrong scale. The guy… whatever he gets, „Okay, let’s get a higher concept of it. Let’s get a better idea of it.“ | But uh… just… good thing that two things are happening. That… that is to say that this is all incredible and that none of this could happen. That’s very, very… that’s a good thing. It makes it whether you want it or not. I stand here and I… I’m telling you two varieties of data. And one of those varieties of data is the actual scientific datum which has been dug up out of this universe and out of all universes. That’s the… the specific datum, and it’s application to the homo sapiens and beings in this MEST universe. And that data you can be darned sure of. |
When he says, „What’s a better idea?“ you kind of explain to him what’s a better idea in your level. | Next is the data… I… it’s not data. Next is my opinions. Hell’s bells. I reward myself for my labors by having opinions. |
And uh… how responsible are you? Let’s get that. How… how responsible? | Uh… just separate out those two things. Don’t separate out on the thing that Scientology’s one thing, Hubbard’s another. You say, „You know, Dianetics is one thing, Hub…“ That’s old Art Seppos, the old… flatulence… the old… the old stupid bum! He… every copy of the first book that sold he lost a little more control of his publishing company. He wanted to walk in and buy it for two thousand bucks. When he got through, the publishing company was worth a hundred thousand bucks. |
(Fully responsible.) | So he fixed up a preface and all sorts of things so the book wouldn’t sell, and he wouldn’t distribute it or anything else. He was having cat fits two-and-a-half years ago because that book made a pauper out of him. He couldn’t buy the company that published the book. He was only the president of the company. Oh, boy! And he used to tell people that. Anything he could do – he once called trans-continental to San Francisco to tell the „San Francisco Chronicle“ what a horrible fellow I was. It was the opening night of a lecture there. And… we’ve had some real squirrels here on Earth. You’ve got no idea. |
Hm? | But the point I’m making is… is… he didn’t go in for that, but just… just modify the thing like this: There’s a lot of viewpoints that I have that you might not have at all. If I have a lot of axes to grind, they’re very obvious axes – extremely obvious. |
(Fully responsible.) | Uh… and they actually don’t influence this data at all. What I give you as fact is fact. What I give you as opinion – you’re welcome to it or not as the case may be. But I’m not asking you to agree with me. For God’s sakes, don’t do that! Just go look. |
Horribly? | Goodnight. |
(Fully!) | |
You’re fully responsible. Okay. How responsible are you? | |
(Fully.) | |
Fully responsible. Do you really feel responsible? How responsible are you for police? | |
(Quivering.) | |
Okay, let’s raise that concept about responsibility for police. | |
(We shouldn’t have to have them.) | |
Umm-hmm. Let’s raise that concept higher than that. (We won’t need to have them.) | |
Okay, let’s see if we can get any higher on it. Your responsibility for police. | |
(There isn’t any necessity for them.) | |
There isn’t any necessity for ‘em! Good. Let’s get it higher than that. | |
(Well, I won’t have any police in my universe.) | |
Okay. And so we go on up toward full responsibility on one subject, you see? | |
And uh… now we could take how… how much of an effect do you think you are? You… how much of an effect do you think of yourself as being? | |
(An occasional effect.) | |
An occasional effect. Let’s see if we can boost that up. | |
(Rarely an effect.) | |
Okay. Let’s get a higher idea of it. | |
(One over infinity effect.) | |
Does that me… really make you feel… does it change any idea in you? | |
(No.) | |
Well, come on. Let’s change your basic concept on the subject of being an effect. | |
(I may not be an effect – I’m not an effect.) | |
Aha! Now we’re getting a shift: ‘I’m not an effect’. | |
(I guess the next thing is ‘I am cause’.) | |
But you’re not reaching that, though, are you? How close are you coming to it? | |
(Infinity over one.) | |
Okay. Now that’s one way of doing Rising Scale Processing. You just explain to your preclear that you’ve got this scale and this scale goes „Survive, Dead; Right, Wrong… How right do you think you are? How responsible do you think you are – do you want to be? And how much do you own? And… and uh… how many people could you be if you had to be,“ and… and so on. You just go across the scale like that. | |
Now there’s an entirely different way of doing this, and uh… this is also Rising Scale, but you’d call that first Rising Scale as a very gradient scale. That’s very gradient Rising Scale, small step Rising Scale. | |