All right.

How are you today?

This is the question period of the seventh lecture.

Audience: Okay. Fine. Good.

Yes, Ralph?

You're not making it?

Male voice: Would you run over those lead-ins again? That's not a fair question.

Audience: Right. No.

Male voice: No.

You're not making it satisfactorily?

I can talk some more about lead-ins if you want me to. This is a big subject: diagnosis. Unfortunately, it has been the subject that we could never teach anybody to date.

Audience: No.

I'll give you a clue on a lead-in. We scan the track on somebody. We start him back at conception and scan him forward to present time. This is not a diagnostic method and is not to be used. I mean, this is an experimental method. I'll just show you something here.

I understand there's a lot of data you want today.

We scan him on forward to present time. An awful lot of things stick in his mind, so we take him back to conception, scan him on forward to present time again, and an awful lot of things stick in his mind.

Audience: Yes.

A lot of these things start erasing. And you keep at it long enough, it gets clearer and clearer and his life straightens out and a lot of these things erase, but we're left with one that doesn't. At least one type of incident won't budge and we find him thoroughly stuck.

So I'll lecture on something else. I think we'll probably get a diagnosis concerning the Rock as soon as I get it worked out. That'll probably be about the end of the course; probably be the last lecture of the fifth week. I think that's lecture twenty-five.

So we run him on Help of dead bodies to open up some past lives or something of the sort. This is all experimental, you understand, just to give you an anatomy of a case. So we take the life before this and we scan him forward from conception in that life, which he can't barely - he can't even conceive of it actually to make a pun - and we scan him on forward through that lifetime and up to present time, and we do that and a lot of it shows up; and oh, this would be arduously long and isn't a recommended method; I'll just give you the mechanics, you see.

This is seventh lecture, 20th ACC, July 22, 1958 and today we are going to take up an article known as the Rock.

And pretty soon, the same kind of incident that stuck up in the current lifetime sticks up in that lifetime. So we take him back a few lifetimes earlier. We take him back to some fixed date on the E-Meter that bopped or something and we take a period prior to that and we scan him all the way up from 1700 to present time. And we'll find that each one of these lives a similar incident stuck and doesn't free; but now they're getting bunched up; we're jamming his track on one incident, one type of incident.

Audience: Oh! Oh!

So we take him back to 1000 A.D. and we scan him on up all the way through and now everything seems to clean up except one type of incident. Well, up to this time it's all apparently had to do with women, marital situations in which he went boom! See? Now, we would make a vast mistake if we thought the Rock was a woman or a married woman or something. It's some special breed of cat. See, it's something special about this and usually to that extent his behavior would be modified by women but then women are locked up on something else. Get the idea? Now, I'll give you an actual example of having scanned somebody around one time. Women were locked up on legs, and only after a long time the preclear cognited on the fact that men had legs too. How remarkable. Big cognition, you know, he never noticed men's legs. Well therefore, if we'd run women we'd have been so far astray that we never would have gotten anywhere. It was legs.

I have been carefully and gradually leading you up to this gigantic object. I had to give you your lecture yesterday because yesterday's lecture contains most of the solutions to this object known as the Rock.

And during the last couple millennia women's legs have been covered up and haven't been discussed in drawing rooms and you couldn't even say, „Women had legs.“ You know, they had „limbs“ or something. The bad boys always stood around in the village main street by the corner drugstore and looked at women's ankles - been quite a thing about legs and that was all we were getting, you see, with all of this diagnosis.

Now, definition of „Rock“ is that facsimile which the preclear is continuously and obsessively creating and which he is suppressing below his level of consciousness with an inhibitor. The Rock, in other words, is an obsessive creation. It is almost totally identified with anything and everything wrong with the bank. Its keynote is A=A=A, reference Book One.

But all of a sudden we run into „legs,“ see? And then he wakes up to the fact he hasn't got any! Brand-new thought. See? Watch for these brand-new thoughts. They're what stick out like mad.

We said one time that if you could find out what the mind was doing and parallel it, you could undo it. That's one of the earliest observations of Dianetics.

First time he tells you he never thought about that before, boy, you're cooking on the front burner. You've gone in under the inhibitor and you're bringing the creation up to view.

Well, when I discovered this one, that the mind was obsessively mocking up something and then inhibiting it obsessively, it became very clear why there was a reactive bank. And when you say „Rock“ you mean the core, center of the reactive mind. Not for this lifetime, not for the body, not for Freud but for the whole track; it is what the thetan has been accumulatingly wrecking himself with from time immemorial and explains the dwindling spiral.

You'd be safe enough at this point simply to run „legs.“ You get „legs“ pretty flat and you find out it's really „shoes.“ And why shoes? Because they prevent a thetan from reaching downward and are a consistent and continual barrier. It'll work out something weird like this, see? Don't expect it to be logical, it won't be. That's why it's noncomputable.

He begins to obsessively mock this thing up. And the longer he mocks it up, the more he identifies other things with it.

But problems will start falling into view. Don't handle them as problems, skip them. Life computations will come to view and all sorts of things will start to come to view. There's a lot of „come to realize“ on running for the Rock, see? „Oh, what do you know! I never thought about that before. Say, yeah.“ „I wonder what a thetan would look like if it had legs, you know?“ Naturally, legs are a cancellation of a thetan's - one of the thetan's primary abilities, which is simply to disappear in one place and appear someplace else. Legs travel him there and he's mad about legs.

Perhaps it originally was a word of warning: „If I keep this mocked up, then I'm not going to get into a similar situation again.“ So duplication, old Op Pro by Dup, all by itself, chipped away on the Rock.

Now, one of the manifestations that will come out on the subject is he hates legs because legs invalidate him and he's the one who is supposed to move bodies and things around, and legs move them around. Do you get the idea? I'll give you another computation, a thetan furious about eyes, you see. In this particular case it was women, women, women, women, women, women, women, women, women; babies, babies, babies, babies, babies; frogs. Oh, Freud would have had a ball with this particular case. Frogs, frogs, frogs, frogs, frogs; lizards, lizards, lizards, lizards, lizards. „Where the hell am I going? You know? It doesn't seem to be getting anywhere,“ and so forth. „Well, what do you seem to see there?“ „Well, it's nothing but this damn lizard's eyes staring at me.“ It wasn't women, babies, frogs or lizards; it was eyes.

The „service facsimile“ is a computational lock on the Rock, and is that series of complaints or protests the preclear makes to protect the Rock and that is the service facsimile.

So you can say it's a common denominator to everything he brings up. It's the one thing that each of these things has in common. Of course, women's eyes are quite compelling because they're usually - when a fellow is fascinated with some woman, he's usually fascinated with her eyes or something of the sort, you know. And the eyes are the seat of the livingness and all of this sort of thing. „Windows of the soul,“ some poet would say or something or other. All of a sudden this thetan is liable to go half nuts that you're auditing and say, „Well, I should do all the lookingness! Eyes don't see anything. I should be doing - the one that is looking!“ And he, after a while, will fall out into a minor cognition that „I“ and „eye“ in English are spelled differently - be a great revelation to him.

Therefore, that about which the preclear complains had better never be audited by you except to make him a little happier so you can get on with the job, because you're auditing the protective coating of something.

Get the idea?

Now, at the outset let's go into this with zero technicality. A thetan, spirit, you, is actually capable of tremendous creation. But when you have taken an irresponsibility for some part of your ability to create, you can then continue to create without knowing that you are creating. Now we don't know that you aren't creating the whole physical universe. We don't know that you aren't creating everybody you see. We don't know this positively; this is simply a matter of „Who's God?“ Well, you're the logical candidate. You've accepted the blame for everything else, you might as well accept the blame for that one.

So, as you run down along the line, several conditions have to be answered. One of these conditions is that it doesn't release. The Rock doesn't release until you get it but you have to be close to it in order to affect it at all and unburden it. You can't unburden it from a distance. You can't pull the sand off the edges of the Rock without starting an avalanche - in other words, your needle just gets stucker and stucker and stucker and stucker when you're really on the Rock.

Now, where you are capable of tremendous creativeness, you very often find that creativeness painful or undesirable or upsetting in some way and you have a potential of disowning it - creating it and disowning it at the same time so that you don't even know about it. And this, in essence, is the reactive mind.

Another condition is that it violates one of the thetan's personal (this is always individual) ideas of what he should be doing. In other words, it has helped too much, to a total dependency, and then he himself has - it's been a violation, you see, of his abilities, and eventually he's cashiered one of his abilities and taken over this thing and then it betrayed him, and he's stuck with no ability to look. See? Very simple.

Now, when we talk about the Rock, we are talking about that thing, that engram which an individual is continuously and obsessively, compulsively creating and continuously and obsessively and compulsively inhibiting in such a way that he knows nothing whatsoever about it. So the first definition of the Rock is: that experience on the whole track which the person has totally disowned and is totally creating.

Physical universe is too broad and too big to be called a Rock, but it's not beyond possibility that space is the Rock. You know? The space is - space, horrible stuff. „How could you help space? God knows.“ And he'll boggle on this thing. Eventually, after he swings in just so close to it, after that he'll either start running it or start protesting.

Now, the test of it is this: if you improve a person's ability to create mental image pictures, you improve the quality of his reactive mind. You improve the quality of his mental image pictures by improving his ability to create. It's quite important. And this tells you why the Rock remains obscure and why an individual continuously lessens his ability to create.

If he's a good Scientologist, he probably won't protest; if he's somebody off the street, he'll protest like mad. Got it? Now these lead-ins, then... You've always got something hanging out, to answer your question very directly, there's always something hanging out and in this particular eye case, you had a pc who was always this way. God, you're making so much out of looking that it was fantastic! See, you just look. You know? Looking was a conscious effort almost, apparently, and yet he apparently wasn't looking at anything. His eyes were not quite focused ever, but he was looking at things, see? And the auditor, after he got ahold of this one, says, „Oh, for God's sakes. I work on this thing for ten solid hours and then I run this thing! The guy has been eyes, yes, obviously eyes, obviously. The first moment I ever spotted the pc, I said, 'Boy, that's a funny way of looking.'” Why didn't he just run it in the first place, you know? But you never do, so to hell with it.

Therefore, it becomes painful to create. If you become a little bit better at creation over here with your left hand you are busily mocking up behind your back something that is butchering you. And you get better able to mock up a billboard out in front of you; you also get better able to mock up a total reactive mind.

Yes, Jack?

What do we mean by a „reactive mind?“ Anything anybody has ever meant or summed up as an out-of-sight, compulsive thinkingness that victimizes the individual. Now, thoughts and engrams, secondaries, locks (of course, with their energy and masses and space and time tabs) all go together to make up this reactive mind.

Male voice: Isn't the Rock, the Rock on any case, more likely to be further back on the track than bodies? Yes, yes. I kind of made that point in the lecture. But bodies can be all kinds of bodies and vehicles. And you'll find a present life body or a present millennia body or something here in the last million years or so, possibly go back to a different type of body, and a different type of body entirely like a robot body or something of the sort. You know? It isn't necessarily true that the individual has had the Rock for 76 trillion years, see? He might have only had the Rock for the last thousand or two and been in pretty good shape.

Restimulation is simply a signal in the environment which sets off the individual's compulsive need (he thinks) to mock up the unpleasant experience again.

One of the things you can do, yeah, one of the things you can do... You know, he just had minor little things that he was boggling at and so forth, and he wasn't really in there to a point where „everything identified with one thing.“ And boy, when that happened, man, he got a reactive mind and after that he got it quick.

Actually, an engram doesn't exist until it is keyed in. Do you remember? Dianetics. Doesn't exist until it's keyed in. It is not stored anywhere except in the capability of the person of re-creating an experience. It's not stored; there is no „bank“ which contains a billion engrams which are selected out in some super-mechanical way.

There's another way of looking for one of these things, by the way, that might interest you; is, look back to the last time he was happy. I've already tested this one as a possibility, running it on an E-Meter; the last time he was happy. And you're liable to find some early date.

What happens is quite different. The individual goes through an experience, and until something reminds him of the experience, doesn't even re-create a picture of it. But he has the potentiality of re-creating the picture in full. So something comes along and tells him - usually the same day, by the way; it might be at the end of the engram - something reminds him of the experience. Maybe just the nurse comes up and says, „Well, I have bad news for you. You've had a bad accident and you're going to lose all of your hangnails,“ or something like this.

The way you locate a date is „Was it later than that? Was it earlier than that?“ And watch for drops. And when you get right on it, why, you will get a considerable needle reaction, when you get the exact year or something of that sort. And then you try to find out what happened then. And very possibly you will have some kind of a major situation in which a lock of the Rock featured. So just examine everything connected with that.

Now, the individual now knows he's had an experience and he thinks about the experience, but now he is thinking in solids. Now, please get this one. Please get this one because it is one of these things which I struggled for years to find out about. And it's so easily missed and there's hardly anybody here who doesn't think himself capable of thought - privately think himself capable of thought in terms of thought and that thought is kind of himself kind of without mass or anything, you know? No, you can think in solids. It's a new thought. See, solids aren't something else than your thinkingness; you can think in solids.

Found one the other day that had four apparent lead-ins, all of them less than a thousand years ago. I have forgotten what the four were because I didn't do the analysis on the case. But it was: one was a stake. Another one was an actual rock, being stoned to death. Another one was a tree. Another one, I think, was a spear. Boy, these were all sticky.

Give you an idea - Nikola Tesla, mocking up an AC generator and letting it run for a couple of years to find out how it worked. Of course, any electronics man will laugh like mad if you run him on „Mock up something to find out how it works.“ How could you possibly mock up something if you didn't know how it worked? You see? But he didn't have to say, „Now, I am going to mock up a machine which is going to furnish current which goes 60 cycles that-a-way - I think it was 50 when he did it; I've forgotten - and then it's going to go 50 cycles flip-flop, flip-flop, every second and this is the way it's all going to go,“ and so on. „And now I am going to mock it up. There! I have created some energy“ See? No, no that's not the process. It's BOOM! Get the idea? See? He doesn't have to think the thought that he's doing it. All he has to do is do it.

Now, the analysis was not pushed any further than that simply because it was one of these twenty-minute look-over-the-track things. But four items were listed out, each one of which went zzzzzz. The needle got real stuck up. You had to run Connectedness - the person doing the analysis had to run Connectedness to free up the needle.

Now, your association with the Buddhist type of religion over many lifetimes - odd thing for a fellow to say, but there it is - has given you two ideas. And a thetan has had these two ideas so long that they tend to counteract and nullify the truth. The first of these ideas is that a person is knowledge. See, the Buddhist thinks that. People come along and say, „You are the composite of all of your experience.“ But a person is experience. But that a person is knowledge - the Buddhist believes he is knowledge; he believes he's knowingness. He then believes he is the effect of his own cause. Now I'm not damning the Buddhists, by a long way Well I'm not saying that this is present on this earth at this time, that you know about in this lifetime, but it is something that has happened on the whole track and it's been going on for a very long time. That's one of them, you see, that „you are your data.“ It's very cute, you know. Somebody comes along and gives you a name and it's Joe Smith. See? And then you are Joe Smith, you see? Then you are no longer you; you are a datum known as Joe Smith, so you are a knowledge known as Joe Smith. Don't you see? All right, that's the first thing that you must know about this Rock. The second thing you must know is that you've gotten the idea that thought is thought and it sort of has a nothingness connected with it. And then there's something else called matter, energy, space and time that you also maybe can make or influence in some fashion.

Now, where these things went and how far back they went, Lord knows, but when you get the Rock, you generally get a late lock on it. But you get the actual Rock very often, if you're really auditing it. If you get something close to the Rock or the actual Rock, what you've got is late but is nevertheless valid.

Now, for God's sakes, get rid of that differentiation because it's not so. You can think in solids. The process of mocking up is simply the process of mocking up. You don't have to think to mock up, you can simply mock up. Do you get the idea? Well, therefore there - on the Rock there is no thought via in this Rock occurring. And you try to reach it by thoughts and you've had it because it just is. See? You're just mocking up this solid. You can also say, „Now, I think I will mock up a wall,“ and then mock up a wall. See? You can do that too. But you don't even have to think the word „wall“ to mock up a wall. See? You just say, „Boom!“ Got the idea? So there then isn't any thinkingness that goes around in circles and winds up with the Rock. Now, that's about the first thing you have to know about it. It just is.

Now, when you start running it, boy it goes way back down the track, see? It precedes itself much earlier and earlier and earlier.

Now the next thing a thetan does is quite important to this Rock and that is he obsessively copies. An obsessive copying is the background of every facsimile and lock.

If you asked this individual, „When?“ why, he'd go sailing back to the dim reaches of the far beginning of things, you see? And he'll flop all over the place and you'll find out this thing has been pretty present all over the track.

See my friends, the Japanese. They think this copying is really something. And they're very good at it, very excellent. Chinese get less credit but they are equally good.

But when you pick it up in a single incident, remember that the incident which is locked up hardest on the case, the engram which is most stuck, was prepared for for a very long time. He had a weak spot there, see, and you'll get all these preparatory incidents. You can actually see him stuck in the engram. Maybe the engram is relatively recent; that was the time when he was no longer in control of this thing called a reactive mind. Up to that time he could brush it off a bit, you know, but all of a sudden it went whomp, and he'd had it. After that he was no longer in control of the reactive mind. He just kept on mocking it up, mocking it up, mocking it up and inhibiting it, inhibiting it. Lie doesn't know what to do with it; he's just frantic.

I remember one time down in the Bund in Shanghai taking in a raincoat and a suit to be copied by one of the better tailors - Chinese tailors of Shanghai. And of course, it was not a new raincoat, it was not a new suit. Had a patch - the raincoat had a patch on the shoulder and when it came back it had a patch on the shoulder.

Now, it's very true what you say. It's much earlier than bodies, but thetans have always had some means of identification of one kind or another.

Now, you'd say, „Look, a fellow would know better than this.“ No. No. I told him I wanted one just like it because it was more or less the latest style.

It could be - it could be such a thing - such a stupid thing apparently as an energy particle or something, you see?

„The Charge of the Light Brigade“ gives us, „Theirs is not to reason why“ You know? They just copy it.

Male voice: I was going to ask would - if you located the material of the Rock, would this be near enough to run?

Now, we are offered the rather entrancing aspect of a thetan at least having a share in mocking up the physical universe and then copying his own mock-up.

Yes, usually, it would swing you into it.

Now, we're already when we get to the reactive bank - we're already at position 2, at least. See, we're not at a first postulate situation; we are at a second postulate situation. The mock-up is after the fact. There is an operation; he copies the operation. What is the operation but a mock-up after the fact? Now, odd things occur if you simply have a preclear sit down and copy the window, copy the chair, copy, copy, copy, copy, copy. Old Route 1, remember? Do you know why Route 1 doesn't always work? Because copying improves the ability to mock up without finding the Rock. And the Rock gets solider and solider and kicks him in and knocks him off and mauls him around and rolls over him. And he says, „Something is happening to me.“ So he made the situation, so he made the universe, so he copied it and then becomes the victim of his own copy I think this is fantastic.

Male voice: Well, you don't have a...

Now as we look over this general picture, we find at once several things we must not do too extravagantly if we are going to process a preclear to Clear.

I went all the way down the track on blood one time. Blood, funny thing for a thetan to be worried about, but he was sure worried about blood. It was a great shock to him. He'd always had bodies that didn't bleed and all of a sudden he got a body that bled and blood was the inhibitor on having a body because bodies bled. And that was very bad.

Now, understand that you can process a preclear in the direction of health. You can process him in the direction of a broad assist on his marital or financial affairs. You can straighten out - you, an auditor, can straighten out almost any selected sector of a person's life by using any of the technology developed in the last eight years, some of it better than others, some of it faster than others.

Male voice: Yeah, well, couldn't you take a...

But you're not doing that now. You're doing something else. You are clearing somebody. Therefore, an auditor has two directions he can take. One of those is to patch up the present lifetime so the guy will function and the valves will open and close and the steam will go in here and come out there, and so forth. Do you get the idea? And the other thing he can do is just shoot the moon. He can just clear up the whole thing and create essentially a new state of beingness, which is really an old state of beingness improved. Because after an individual has been through it all and is cleared again, he's a much smarter thetan than he was before.

The Rock was an inoperative body, that was the Rock.

Now, perhaps a lot of thetans have been accumulating experience and getting mired in to find out what it is all about and how bad it can get and so forth, just in hopes - a rather not necessarily justified hope at all, since the research in Dianetics and Scientology was totally voluntary - that sooner or later somebody was going to come along and invent Dianetics and Scientology, see, and that you were going to go along and process him back out so that he could sit in the sun once more.

Male voice: Couldn't you take, like the major groups of things like solids, gases, liquids and sort of gradually get...

It was not totally justified at all, but one might say that his experience and his willingness to get himself so loused up and mired down must have been based on a hope that someday somebody was going to dig him out.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. You could systematize it in. The only difficulty you run into is many of these items are so unreal to the preclear, they don't bop, see? That's why a systematized approach has not been plotted out, because the reality of the items which you could list are quite variable. I suppose one day some full list of diagnostic material will come out. The closest we've got to it right now is SOP 8, Expanded GITA list. If you went down that Expanded GITA list and just watched the meter hitting each one kind of hard, why, there's some fair chance that you would hit a good solid stick there someplace, see. Some chance of it. That's a - just a generalized system. Value has not been demonstrated yet completely. Is that it? All right.

He's talked about a fellow named Gabriel. He's always had some kind of a weird hope on this line that somebody is going to dig him out. Get the idea? Well, you're elected, Gabriel, so I'm trying to teach you how to bugle.

What other question is there? Yes, Jack?

Now, the road out to Clear is not the road selectively to a patch-up of everything under the sun to make the fellow feel better and function better. Get those two things separated now.

Male voice: Well, just a brief comment. I think most people would have something on bodies that lead down to something else. That's just an opinion.

The road to Clear doesn't care at all how he feels about anything anywhere along the line to a point where he's Clear.

Yeah. If you're a little bit distant or if it's distant from a Rock, or if the Rock is really just a small part of what you hit, you'll find too much reaction on it.

Now, you will find yourself wavering - you will find yourself wavering. Your innate kindness and the decency which you do have (believe it or not) doesn't permit you to continue comfortably while your preclear is being uncomfortably situated. You want to help him out.

If it's almost it but isn't it, you get too much reaction on the darn thing because the pc actually sort of feels that it'd be very painful to monkey with this thing very much, you know? That's fear of it. Whereas if he said „bodies“ and then he had segregated out body types and body parts, you see...

Well, as long as help on your part is partially obsessive - and it always is until a fellow was pretty clear, you know; you want to help him analytically but down below it there's a current of a sort of „I've got to help him,“ you know, „particularly if I've gotten him into that quicksand, I should help pull him out“ - that you will slow down the road to Clear to the exact extent that you wish to patch up the livingness of your preclear as you go along, to the exact extent that you think factors in his life should be handled before you get anywhere. And you will waver between these two goals, so please recognize that there are two.

One rather interesting thing, a fellow with a total Freudian - the ladies will have to forgive me here because this was an actual case. I hope you will; we're all fellows together in all this - but this guy was having a bad time of it, and he had Freudian computations, you know, sex and all of this, that and the other thing, and so on.

First to clear him, by far the most important goal. It's hardly comparable to the other goal at all because it takes care of everything, eventually, that making him feel better would ever take care of. Don't you see? And this second goal, limited: make the preclear comfortable and happy while he's sitting in the auditing chair and make the life around him be less oppressive to him.

And he ran back on the subject of „nuts“ and it didn't have anything to do with Freud. It just wound up as the things that hold the joints of robots together. They come apart and strip and just as you're charging in battle and everything is going along fine, all of a sudden the leg's inoperative. And the guy'd go berserk every time he tried to build up a little toy truck or something like this, so that you had everything in the sun evidently connected with this silly thing: nuts and bolts. It sounds impossible, but everything suggestive that you could think of in connection with this had flooded in. The boy had had some psychoanalysis which had almost put a death knell on him, you see. Probably the reason he bought psychoanalysis was the original identification. It was one of these things, you know.

The second is the goal of the healer. Getting auditing lately - I often wondered why a couple of times I was a medico back in the nineteenth didn't lift easily. Give you some idea of Rocks - this isn't the Rock as far as I'm concerned but I just didn't ever seem to get much variation on a couple of lifetimes as a medico, nineteenth century.

But you'll find everything explained by the Rock, which is one of these horrible comments. Everything gets explained by the thing or its locks, you know.

I think we're at life number five on the subject of being a medico now. The earliest one so far picked up was - I was a medico from 1683 to 1694 in the West Indies with a French regiment.

And the fellow says, „Now I know why I always used to spill ink in school.“ And the auditor says, „How has this got anything to do - how has it got anything possible to do here with the thing we just found which is a pistol? Oh, I see, ink, pist-“ „No, no, that's not it. No! No! That's not it at all. It's the fact that I've always, you see, I've disliked women.“ You say, „Oh, no.“

Now the nineteenth-century lives as a medico don't seem very important. Do you get the idea? Do you see this? So it tells us that we can unburden a Rock or unburden something. Now, I - this has practically - this has really probably very little to do in the final analysis with the Rock as far as any case aspect I had is concerned, but I just bring it up because I have a good subjective reality on this fact that gradually we kept lifting things off of a chain which we didn't think we could do in Dianetics. Using Help in general, accidentally we keep picking up training as a medico, and we're lifting them off life by life without paying any attention to it. See? Now, supposing my auditor, somewhere along the line, had decided that I would be much more comfortable about healing people and processing people and so forth, if she straightened out all of these lives as a medico.

Trying to make a preclear be reasonable about it is probably the cruelest thing you can do because you really are looking at that first book „A=A=A=A“ and how thoroughly - how thoroughly roofs equal books, and how thoroughly streetcars are just exactly the same things in entirety as braids. How the hell did he manage that, see? By the way, one of the impulses that gets a person into lumping up things like this is „Keep it from going away.“ That's why Step 6 is so shattering on - and so on.

Obviously surgery was crude in the eighteenth century; it was awfully crude in the nineteenth, but in the eighteenth, wow! And in the seventeenth we again had no comparison. We had a couple of loblolly boys, sometimes four, and they grabbed onto various portions of the anatomy of the patient - didn't even, until later, almost the end of the century somebody used to get the idea of giving him a piece of wood to bite on so he wouldn't knock his teeth apart. You know, they got kind. And you started in there with a saw and an ax and not much knowledge of anatomy - plenty of knowledge of bones, but very little knowledge of tendons or veins or arteries. Every once in a while you would say, „Well, what do you know, he's bleeding to death.“ You develop a considerable conscience after a while and you say, „Do I operate or don't I operate, since these chances, if I operate, are dwindled to about 10 percent - not being better but just surviving.“ Sooner or later you're going to become diffident about healing somebody You get the idea? The idea of healing them seems to be a very oppressive decision. Oh, the auditor could make me much happier, much, much, much happier about processing people, certainly, if all of the angles were taken off all decisions about healing people. Do you see that? What a wide-open invitation. Here I am professionally handling people, people, people, people, people, see? I don't look at it in this fashion. I don't look at it as an effort to heal or anything, but obviously something like this would have something to do with it. Right? So the auditor could make me much happier about what I am doing from day to day, if she thought it was necessary, simply by patching up all these lives as a medico.

He gets everything, he's - keep pulling things into himself and keeping things from leaving, and getting up automatic „keep its from going away,“ don't you see? And „How do I get everything to stick to me so that I don't have to hold on to things?“ You see? Well, it's - after a person goes almost psychotically frantic about losing things, then he'll permit himself to go on with this Rock deal, and eventually it goes out of his control. So Step 6 will hit a Rock, but it's the cruel way to do it because it improves the ability to mock up long before it discovers anything on the case. And the Rock will just get stronger and stronger and tougher and tougher and...

Lately I've hung most of this lifetime's - a lot of this lifetime's certificates up on my wall above the goldfish bowl - data of comparable magnitude. And if I were to hang up all my diplomas as a surgeon or chirurgeon or something accumulated from way on the backtrack, a psychiatrist would go nuts himself trying to figure it out. Do you see this? What do we have here? What do we have here? We have an auditor heading toward - in effect, the difficulties of my own case are apparently just a body's difficulties. How do you keep a body going that's been dead a few times, you know? But what an invitation, see, to an auditor! How much better I would feel, you see, if I could set a body down which never got a reactive restimulation in any way, shape or form from any preclear ever processed, or anybody that ever complained. And they could come in and scream and say, „Well, you were going to process me and now...“ You know? The way they do sometimes. „Now, I can't walk and I can't eat...“ And you know, that sort of thing. Doesn't happen very often. My life is usually very calm but it does happen.

Male voice: What.

So you see, I'm trying to give you an example to which I can see a subjective reality and I don't want to talk about the cases of any preclears on the subject of the Rock because there are some of them not totally resolved yet. So I lay myself up on the altar of publicity here.

Hm?

You see this now? It's an invitation to the auditor. How much better I would feel about it all. Obviously if education after education - Edinburgh and France, and here and there and everyplace on the subject of healing - if we got all these misconcept off, even part of the Aesculapian school at one time or another - if we got all of this educational pattern off on the subject of healing, there would never be any conflict with what we are doing with Dianetics and Scientology, would there? Oh, wouldn't this be smooth? And the auditor could go in and audit those things out and the hell of it is they would audit out, and the awful part of it is, I would feel better about it. And I would be not one quarter of an inch closer to OT, not one quarter of an inch. And every piece of that auditing time would have been wasted time, from a standpoint of the long look.

Male voice: You blow through it though, don't you?

Do you see what you're faced with then? Do you get this clearly? I've tried to state it in such a way as you would understand it here.

Yeah, if you keep the preclear in session. We've run it. Just run Step 6 all by itself and we've improved people, but they go around being happily caved in, you know. They feel much better but they haven't got any chest anymore.

This fellow - this fellow, let us say, is - he has the capability of painting, he would like to be a much greater painter and so forth, and yet he's having so much trouble with finding apartments and landladies, and so forth that he just never can settle down and get to painting. Get the idea? And so you as an auditor say, „Well, we'd better smooth out this situation and get him a little bit squared around in life so that he can settle down and relax and then we will get on with something or other and so on.“ And you could start and audit out landladies and canvas and apartments, don't you see, and just have a ball and go nowhere.

Another way of going about it - I'll give you another clue about the Rock: if the Rock has any association with body parts, it'll be that body part that the preclear isn't in communication with. And if you just ask him to feel his right hand and his left hand and tell you which feels the most - if he told you his right hand had nothing like the same feeling, you see? This hand, you see, is quite live and this right hand - „What is this all about, you know?“ You get quite interested in this fact.

Now I have answered the question which some of you asked, „Why does it take so long to clear anybody?“ It takes proportionately long to clear somebody to the degree that the auditor has a sympathetic heart. He tries to keep the individual going straight and smooth in his current lifetime. I'm not talking about PT problems now. I'm talking about this life computations, conflicts. You'll find them all over the dial on any preclear that isn't Clear.

You've got some terrific imbalance on the body. Well, of course, that's not too hot because it might be the arm and it might be a bone and it might be a fingernail and it might be all sorts of things, but it's something he sure as the devil isn't communicating with.

You can go back and pick up his aversion to ice-cream sodas, and run it down to a time when he was a child and get rid of it, and now he can eat ice-cream sodas. Great! Now, nothing I'm saying tells you that you shouldn't handle a PT problem when it's really a PT problem! But listen, for the love of Pete, if it is five minutes out of PT and he's now not bopping on it, off of it! Don't touch it! You got it? I'll get you how this is. He's out in the street. The Washington, DC cabs are supported by the FBI trying to cut down the population which they find very hard to govern, you see? And he's almost hit with one of these cabs, you see, as he springs into the crosswalk and springs out of the crosswalk like he's on a pogo stick. And he comes into session with a little piece missing off of his coattail which is now decorating one of the fenders of the cab. And he comes in and he says, „I just had an awful-narrow escape!“ Has he got a PT problem? Has he?

Yeah, that's the one thing he doesn't want to do with the Rock is communicate with it which is what makes it difficult.

Audience: No.

Yes, Allison?

The sympathetic ones in the place will say, „Yes, he has.“ But look, that was several seconds ago and does not now exist in present time. So you pat him on the shoulder and say, „That's fine.“ You let him mention it; you don't pull a gag out of your pocket and block it into his teeth and tie it back of his neck on the subject! But you for sure, you for absolutely sure don't sit and fool around with this near-accident because it's not a PT problem! But he's got an attorney out there, this minute, who, this minute, has got some kind of a writ that is going to take away his new Magnavox portable cement mixer and he's trying to keep it from being served. Ah, now we have a PT problem; you'd better handle it.

Female voice: Ron, say you were digging around now for the Rock but the person had no recall at all on the whole track, would you open it up then with Help on dead bodies or something like that?

But the moment it goes back to the last time he was sued you'd better pull out because you're in the wrong area of his track. Now, if it doesn't solve, that PT problem doesn't solve, we have this confrontingness instantly and immediately vis-a-vis. You're running, „What part of that problem could you be responsible for?“ Ah, it doesn't solve, it doesn't resolve. Well, don't think that it's so tough that it won't resolve. It's just your pc hasn't got a clue what responsibility is.

You could.

He'd probably define responsibility: is that with which you get saddled if you shoot somebody or something, you know. He's got a total misdefinition and a misconcept of the auditing command and part of clearing a command can be legitimately, „Invent a person and tell me what idea he has of responsibility“ That is a legitimate command-clearer if you're getting noplace with it.

Female voice: Is it necessary?

Now, you can go all over the track and fool around there but you cut your barriers to a minimum. Because when you start to find the Rock and start to address the Rock directly and immediately, you're going to get him into enough excitement to last you for some time without fooling around with an exteriorization from session by reason of a real present time problem and so forth. You're going to need all of his attention on the spot.

You could, but the Rock is quite prominent in this lifetime and you don't have to. The pc's going to do it; the pc's going to open up whole track if you've got hold of the Rock. He'll say, „What am I doing sitting here looking at this picture of this Indian? Must have read it in a book, you know.“ And he goes on this way for some time and finally says, „Hey, now, wait a minute. I don't see here what - exactly how this adds up, but I have a sort of a feeling like I was on a planet one time or another and...“ Sometimes they innocently ask, „Could it be true that I've lived before?“ You don't have to tell them.

Now, I'll give you the equation of auditors and pcs and a very simple one: Auditor plus pc versus bank: solution of case. Auditor versus pc's bank is usually not enough thetan present to solve the case. You got that? Pc versus bank usually finds, or it wouldn't be much of a bank, the bank greater than the pc, although he's creating it, the apparency is, see. So grant this: bank greater than pc but pc versus bank, usually no case solution involved.

What about it?

Auditor less than bank: no solution.

Female voice: You know, it's funny. That's what I've been doing.

Auditor plus pc versus bank: tsk, pshew! no bank.

That's it.

Got the idea?

Female voice: I thought it was films or books.

If you get the idea of a steam locomotive going up a mountainside sweating along with a string of boxcars and its wheels just spinning on the rails. It's not climbing any higher and sometimes sliding back but making no forward progress. Along comes another steam locomotive and hooks onto the front of the existing locomotive and the two of them pour the throttles to it and put some sand on the track, and both of them pull those boxcars over the hump. Got the idea? There they go. All right.

That's right. That's right. And if you listen to it all, and if you - for a long time a pc, for some hours of running on this sort of thing, the pc can credit it all off to having read a lot of Sir Walter Scott or having had nightmares, and he's just charging it off to locks. And actually, if he looks long enough and you let him, he can rationalize it out into books he's read and all that sort of thing. And after a while, he runs out of it and it's no longer a satisfactory explanation. He gets tired of lying about it, you know. That it?

All right, supposing the first locomotive, which was already failing to pull it, as soon as the new locomotive showed up, simply says, „Well, help is here at last,“ closed down his throttle and banks his fires. We're actually not much - much less going to pull it because now we've added a whole locomotive as dead weight to the load. Now, this will sometimes be your pc sitting there expecting you to clear him, no contribution. He just shut off the throttle and banked the fires. Now that the helper has come along, why, he's all set; the helper can just do it all. See that? Supposing he went the opposite way and steamed up considerably and put his tie bar, or whatever you call it, in reverse and poured the steam to it. Here's the helper locomotive trying to go uphill full blast and here is the original locomotive going backwards downhill with full power! Which way do you think you're going to go in that respect? Boy, you're sure going downhill in a hurry, auditor along with him. See, he'll be very aw- be pretty upset. He's got a big failure going here. You see? Supposing the first locomotive, the moment that a new locomotive showed up, became violently jealous. „Why, I can do this all myself. I was doing all right.“ He was going creak-creak-slip-slip right down the track backwards. „You get out of here! Whoever gave you orders to come around here? To hell with you! Take him away someplace!“ In other words, a non-cooperative situation, and just made the helping locomotive stand by idly and watch while he slid into the ravine behind him. This happens too. This is the other situation which wasn't envisioned particularly when those equations were first written.

Female voice: Yeah.

Auditor is given a no-responsibility for what's going on by the remarks and attitudes of the pc. And he is there but he just stands by and the pc kind of runs the session and goes out from under.

All right. Yes?

Now, this pc will very often insist on running a service facsimile; he will very often insist on running some computation that is making him uncomfortable and the auditor Q's-and-A's with him, and he's just as well - as far as clearing is concerned or pulling over the hump - he might as well just be sitting on a siding blowing off idle steam while the pc runs backwards down the hill.

Male voice: There's probably quite a chain of incidents on this - on things about the Rock in this lifetime. I was wondering how they would have reacted - incidents that are pretty closely associated with the Rock - would have reacted to most types of processing, if there might not be a clue there about the ones that you haven't been able to really do much with.

There's two different things here. There's clearing them and helping them live. And if you're going to clear them, every now and then they won't have the idea at all that you're helping them live and you've got to have extraordinary ARC in order to keep their hope up and keep them in there pitching. Keep a little fire underneath that boiler and keep that throttle cracked open just a little bit, because you need it if you're going to clear him.

Well, you're right. You're lucky to be auditing Scientologists because they can actually answer this question: „What surprised the living daylights out of you in processing?“ See? „What really shook you up? What didn't you know about yourself that you discovered in processing?“ And you're right on the button. I'm awfully glad you mentioned this because you're right on the button with the Rock.

Why? Why does all this happen? If you improve his mock-ups on a direct road to Clear, you improve the quality of the Rock. This you already know, right? So the only safe thing to do is, as soon as you've opened the session, gotten some goals, straightened out the preclear, got him oriented, the session is going well, is to instantly and immediately audit the Rock, get it out of the road and proceed with clearing. That's the way you clear people.

I'll give you an example. Julia one time just before a congress decided all by herself that me standing up with the hot congress lights pouring down on me - she knew I'd been doing lecturing and been under spotlights for a decade, you know, and undoubtedly nobody'd ever audited me on it - so she just decided we just was going to do a little patch-up before a congress and so forth.

You don't waste any time fooling around. You just audit the Rock right off the bat and finish it up and, of course, the guy will go over the hump and for a while it can be awfully uncomfortable, quite upset. He'll get better-worse, better-worse, better-worse and all of a sudden get better, better, better, better, better, better, better, boom and the core of the reactive mind becomes null and void. So then of course all the identifications in the reactive mind become null and void too.

And she just decided that lights must be - we ought to take this off the case, you know. Oh, why, it surprised me half to death. An actual light fixture moved - with my physical eyes, you see, and with me looking - moved two feet down a wall. Just moved all by itself! I thought, „Boy, I've had it! I'm gone!“ And „light,“ „light,“ - took me by complete surprise. Now, if somebody were auditing me and looking for something that was odd or something, they could simply ask, you know, and - „Anything ever surprise you in auditing? Is there something going on in your life that you didn't know about that you found out in auditing?“ And I, of course, would tell them, „Well, there was light.“ I don't know where they'd go from there.

Now, that's the best way to do it, but there's one little trick - is putting your finger exactly on the Rock and auditing it.

Unfortunately, light must have been close in to whatever I was doing, but what I'm doing doesn't seem to be very serious. I'm a great trial to an auditor because when they audit me directly, we don't get much of anyplace, nothing much happens because I can see the room and move around and do this and that.

Now, of course, if you're a good auditor with good intuition and so forth, you simply pick one out of the air and insist that's it and audit it. You improve the pc's ability to mock up without actually having the Rock. Now, that's uncomfortable clearing, and don't make up your mind that it's horribly bad and that you must never do it because I assure you, you are going to do it lots of times. Therefore, you have to mercilessly maintain ARC with the preclear and no matter how he writhes, push him on over the hump anyhow and keep him pulling with you. Quite a trick.

When they get onto „body,“ body parts or straightening up some section of experience or something like that that has influenced a - bodies - then we get onto trying to keep a body going and that sort of thing. But that's disappointing too because they keep blowing. Then we ran Help on light and evidently Julia had done such a terrific job on „Lights going away“ that I think Help on lights flattened out in five commands or something stupid. I have forgotten what. There wasn't anything on it.

Clearing, good clearing, and fast clearing would not be possible in absence of an excellent command of the TRs, but let me assure you there is nobody present whose command of the TRs is so poor that he couldn't clear somebody. You people are pretty good. You'd do it faster if you were better. And according to your Instructors and so forth, your ability to run the TRs could be improved eight or nine hundred thousand percent! But that's just in the interest of better clearing, not an actual fact of clearing. You see? The better you are with your TRs, maintaining ARC with the preclear, why, the easier you will have his support, you see, and the easier the job will be to do because he's willing to crack the throttle open just a little bit more, you see. He has more confidence.

But that is not necessarily the case on every Scientologist. Get the idea? My case is not every other case. I'm not identified.

When you strike an ARC break that you don't patch up, of course, he just slides backwards and the boxcars pull him on back down the hill that he has just so laboriously climbed and you get a sink of the profile.

Who else got a question? Miriam?

This „hump“ by the way is used advisedly It is just the analogy of the railroad locomotives and the hill and the - and railroaders always refer to hard grades and so forth as „the hump“ and they are always trying „to get over the hump.“ It's the last hundred yards of the upgrade that is the toughest. The machinery is becoming worn, things couldn't be worse; the fuel is running out, so is time, and hope alone usually drives an auditor-preclear team over that last part of the grade.

Female voice: Ron, there's another element in Scientology. Almost every preclear has one attitude or one thing come up over and over again and they never quite get resolved.

If you did it exactly there wouldn't be any real difficulty to it at all; it probably wouldn't even be uncomfortable. And if you are right on the button, right square on the middle of the Rock, you will have exactly no difficulty. But we can say from experience you probably won't be that lucky because it's luck alone that gets you into the exact center of the core! Luck! It is enough to get close to it and to get part of the identified problem and audit it off. Because if you get the part of the identified problem, which is so close to it that it actually unburdens rather than injures the case, your pc will be uncomfortable but you will get clearing done because the Rock itself will show up. You are not to Q-and-A with it; you finish off what you are doing and all of a sudden he's sitting there looking at the fact that it was a marble! And a marble will be stuck on your E-Meter and you can simply then proceed to audit a second item, the marble, and boom, there goes the rest of the case.

Well now, when I was talking here to Ralph coming up the line on this, I said, „If you scanned this, you'd eventually find this price tag hanging out. This little tab hanging out, and it'd be the one thing that just wouldn't resolve, wouldn't resolve.“ Well, it's straight on the chain right down to the Rock.

But don't be fooled by this. You may think you have the middle of the Rock; you're right dead center in the reactive mind, everything answers along fine. And three-quarters of the way through clearing, whatever your auditing does relieve, the person feels a lot better and so forth, but there're odds and ends and bits and fragments lying around that you have to clean up. Ah! You didn't have the Rock; now, the Rock appears to be a lock on what you audited. Get that well, because I've seen this mechanism occur.

Female voice: The preclear will bring that particular thing up and he'll look at it, but by - they look the next day.

The auditor audited something so close to the central computation, the central obsessive mock-up of the case, so close to it, that it resolved the case but it left bits and pieces. When he audited the bits and pieces, he was apparently auditing things which were pinned onto what he audited in the first place. Don't you see? And the case cleans on up.

Yeah, it didn't resolve. It's not that he knows about it or is interested in it; those are not the criteria. It's that it just kept coming up and coming up and coming up and nothing ever happened with regard to it.

The actual fact is if you had theoretically dead center on the reactive bank, there would be no bits and pieces. So the Rock on the case might well, after you've audited something very strong and hard off the case, the Rock on the case, all by itself, might appear as a light lock.

I had a pc who had a „being chased by an Indian, as a woman, into a river.“ Beautiful Freudian picture, you know? See? Chased by an Indian into a river and was caught and raped. And no matter what was done to the case, no matter what was run on the case, no matter what computation, this picture sooner or later would tend to pop up and disappear again, and always the same, and never any change - except as the person's ability to mock up was improved the picture got brighter and brighter. But there it was, time after time after time.

The saving grace of all this is you can come close to it and succeed. You're taking the steam out of it. You're taking the sting out of it by taking some of the things around it, which if they became more and more and more and more real, would cut the preclear to ribbons.

This pc, by the way - Rock computation does not happen to be sex or bodies, but water. Fascinating, isn't it?

The Rock itself only has the power to hurt him dreadfully, but the Rock plus all of its associated identifications has the power to practically kill him dead. Do you see? He's being operated upon by a multitude of facsimiles and if you get close enough to the Rock - it isn't true that you could get very distant from the Rock and audit something off and then audit a little bit more off, and then audit a little bit more off. You'd be too far from it to succeed. You have to be somewhere close! And that is your immediate target as far as diagnosing the identity of the Rock is concerned. Get close! Now, what does „close“ mean? It means anything which thoroughly sticks a needle so that it won't free easily with two-way comm. The Rock is persistent and it's not going to get varied by your two-way communication. That's for sure. If you hit it and then it frees up, it will be only because you started talking about something else and you disassociated the case off of the Rock. It isn't that you did anything to the Rock.

Male voice: A question, Ron. You said that „If the preclear knows about it, it couldn't be the Rock.“ But there's a point of - isn't there a point of differentiation...

Let us get an example. It would be almost never that you would find a man or a woman would be the Rock. But because they are quite assistive in creativeness, you very often can unburden the case where a man or a woman of a certain kind or type is closely identified with the Rock. Don't you see? It isn't true that you could audit men and women off cases and then find yourselves in a happy state. And you know, first you audit men off cases and then - if it's a woman, you audit men off, and then you audit the women off, and then you audit children off, and then you do this and then you do that.

I've told you...

You can lay out a formula like this and just miss like mad. If men, women or children happen to be closely associated with the Rock, you can take them off, unburden the case and the case gets better. Get the idea? Now, you can find something else that's stuck, you see, and audit that off and the case would get much better. And then find something else that sticks and then audit that off and possibly that time you've got the Rock, don't you see? But don't be upset if you did this twenty times, each time fully believing you had the Rock. The case got a bit better, don't you see, running Help on it or something of this sort. And the twentieth time, apparently it was very light by this time, that really was the Rock but it didn't have enough dynamite or fireworks with it to worry about. You see, it's sort of anticlimactic.

Male voice:... between what the preclear mentions or might talk about, and the Rock?

So let's take a look at how you would diagnose this situation, you yourself, because the Rock is nothing if not persistent. It is mocked up all the time, it is being inhibited all the time and its persistency raises the resistance of the pc.

Well, he actually doesn't know, in absence of auditing. And I've each time qualified this now, and I'm glad you brought it up because I'd like to punch it home hard: this doesn't too stringently apply to a Scientologist. A Scientologist has had an awful lot of auditing, he knows a lot about cases and he certainly knows a lot about his own case. He will add to some degree his service fac in on this and tend to lead you a bit astray, but not too far. And he has had surprising things happen in auditing; he does know what he's up against and so on. He has been amazed by some things. He does know there's holes in his ability to perceive something. And he knows a lot of things intellectually, and these things are all of assistance in leading on down the line because the fellow's been audited.

When an individual is low on the scale, he's dispersing off the Rock; when he continues to rise on the scale you are simply adding things to the Rock. If something you are talking about to the pc is increasing the tone arm and it's going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, you're not on the Rock. The Rock would let it come - or something very close to the Rock - would bring the tone arm down, down, down, down, down, down, up a little bit, then down, down, down and up a little bit, not quite so far, down, down, down, down and he'd start to read somewhere, reasonably. Got that? But when you're saying you've decided - you've decided that this individual is just in terrible shape on the subject of automobiles. And the more you talk about automobiles and so forth, the needle is apparently quite sticky, doesn't free up but the tone arm is going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, you're just adding something new to the Rock. Get it? When the tone arm goes up, resistance is increasing. When we say, „resistance is increasing,“ we mean mass is being added. And when you start adding mass - you can do it two ways: improve his mock-ups, so on Step 6, you often get this tone arm rise manifestation, or you can just dump new masses on top of the old identification.

After all, we haven't exactly been stupid here the last few years.

So if you get a rising scale needle, you haven't got the Rock. If it consistently rises as you talk about this thing, even if it is stuck, you'd better find something else that is very closely associated to it.

And I think your job is much easier right here in this unit, all of you; much easier than it will be. And you're almost cheating to take advantage of this fact amongst Scientologists. But you should make sure if your Scientologist is talking about this thing and so forth, that it diagnoses the way and it analyzes the way I have described to you, see, that it's stickier and stickier and doesn't blow; and maybe it apparently blows once, you know, and then it sticks right on down again; you've got a lock off the top of it by some accident, you know. But its general rule is, it's getting stickier and it's getting tougher, and if you plowed in about this and you gave him an ARC break about now, he'd really blow. See? And that's the thing you want to watch.

So let us say „automobiles“ and the tone arm is going up, up, up, up. Oh, yes, that's a stuck needle; it doesn't free. Up, up, up, up, automobiles, automobiles. You even run a little Help on automobiles to see where we get and the tone arm just keeps going up and it doesn't drop back.

Because in clearing people outside of this unit and outside the area of Scientology, you're not looking at any educated case at all, and he's liable to follow some old Freudian analysis that he had, or he's liable to ...

You are probably on a chain of things that move the preclear around in space and it might wind up to be a spaceship, or it might wind up to be a minor rocket, or it might wind up to be a bullet. Don't you see? It would be a vehicle that a thetan could ride in, not a man or a body See? And an automobile is just a late lock on the thing and the more you audit automobiles, the more you add in. It is so late that it is creating new masses for the case. Well, that you don't want to do.

I ran into a Scientologist just last night, late last night, that was just about knocked flat on a single cognition on an address to a situation in two-way comm - cognited on something I have known about this person for about two years. And I'd never realized the person had never cognited on it, so I just punched up the conversation in this line.

And although you will do it all the time, it nevertheless must be looked on as a bit of a flub to run a person on something that gives him a high rising scale needle - up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up! You know? That tone arm first is at 3.0 and then it goes up to 3.5 and then it's at 4.0, and then it's at 4.5 and then it's at 5.0 and then it's at 5.5 and then it's at 6.0. Boy, you're just - you're just auditing the wrong thing, that's for sure.

I did one of these old-time Straightwire stunts, like 42 Aberdeen Road, you know. Like you fish around for ten minutes and hit one! You know? The person was handling life like a Christian Scientist. See? There was no mass, and all you had to do was make this benign postulate over it all, and then you didn't have to follow anything up, you didn't have to do anything.

Now, when you hit the Rock originally it might go up 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, 4.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, 3.5. Get the idea? Then 3.0, then 3.0 and all of a sudden inexplicably 2.0, 2.0, 2.0, 1.5, 2.5. Get that, tone arm is rocking up and down. A constant and only up. You haven't got a Rock. You're just dreaming up something new to add to the mass and resistance.

And the person all of a sudden pinned this down and realized that there had been a very dominating Christian Scientist right next to the person in childhood, see, and this person really had never looked at it as being aberrative. Every reason under the sun, moon and stars to consider this person aberrative, but this Scientologist had been playing cat and mouse with this computation for a couple of years in auditing and had never looked squarely at it. So you get another manifestation of: get the pc to - even a Scientologist - to start looking at the thing; he's liable to start cogniting right away.

Now, some of you are sitting right there this moment that watched your pc do just this. Right? Well, you're too late on the track, too late in this universe and you're probably too interested in patching your pc up and you probably are paying too much attention to the service facsimile, about which he knows all about and which he is using to protect the Rock just as surely as Russia uses the iron curtain to „protect“ the ignorance of her people.

Well, this is to some degree a certainty that you're on the Rock chain. A person's greatest reality is on the chain of the Rock, not their least reality, their greatest reality. It's fascinating, isn't it? Person's getting right down and getting real interested in being audited, is a good test if you're on the chain and delivering the goods. See? Auditing is awful real to them all of a sudden. They've been playing around with it in the past, but it's awful real right now. See? „Yeah, well, I've cut my lunch a little bit short. I wanted to make sure I got back here in time for the session!“ Boy! Boy, you know - you know where you're located here! Get the idea? The person doesn't want to come back, isn't much interested in it, kind of unreal, just going along for the ride; you know, happy to help you out as a student, you know, happy to sit there and pretend to be a preclear: you're not even vaguely near the case, see; you're way off in left field somewhere.

That service facsimile is trying to keep you ignorant. But it's an amazing thing that there is no real difficulty in locating the Rock. It is as obvious as Gibraltar if you can look.

And if somebody is blowing, you're probably pretty wrong about the case. The person is in a point of where they're feeling anxious. They know there's something there to be audited; they feel it isn't going to get audited and they can get a bit panicky.

This individual has had bad kidneys. Doesn't talk much about it, but he's had bad kidneys for years and years and years and years. And you root out this fact so just for the hell of it you run kidneys, and you talk about kidneys. You find out finally he's had this chronically wrong with him. You find out one of his early ambitions was to get rid of his kidneys or have well kidneys or not drink any water or something. You see? You root this out in discussing things with him and you'll find that he's pretty well fixated on kidneys.

Audience: Yeah. Mm-hm. That's right.

Well, I assure you a thetan way back on the track is usually closer in toward M-E-S-T and solid objects and so forth than he is on body objects, but there is something about a kidney; might be a kidney stone, you see - Rock.

You know, they can get panicky. But nobody like a Scientologist - a person off the street wouldn't get panicky too much at this point. They'd have some confidence in you, not like a Scientologist.

The reactive bank, to a person who knows how to look, is like a series of great, big, thousand-feet long, 200-foot high, fully illuminated billboards. But you have to change your ideas of what usual behavior would be for a Clear and then find out what's modifying it. You got this? The preclear will often protest that the Rock is not the Rock, and the more he - here's the clue: his protest must be accompanied by a sticky needle and the needle must get stickier and stickier the harder he protests! You got that? If he protests and says, „This is not the Rock. I know this isn't the computation,“ and the needle is freeing up, he's right. Oh, you could undoubtedly find some charge on what you've located, but you might be guilty of just patching up this person's life. See, just patching up his life and not clearing him at all and over his dead body, you're going to do it.

For instance, I have a good subjective reality on this. By the way, I broke my arm some little time ago and it, for some reason or other, wasn't healing up. So I got a series of sessions last week and last night and I haven't got a broken arm.

You start auditing things that surge on the meter and you're dead, because the Rock adds resistance to the case and a surge is an entirely different thing. A drop on the needle tells you less resistance because it's mentioned. You blew something, see, that's less resistance. A Rock is always in the direction of more resistance and more resistance means stickier, „stucker.“ Now, we do have an indicator on an E-Meter that tells you that things are stickier and „stucker“; is you have to raise the sensitivity higher and higher to get the needle to flip. See, the needle wasn't flipping at all with the sensitivity at 2.0. See? You had a stuck needle. But you wanted to go on discussing this subject so now you go up to 2.5 with sensitivity, a little sensitivity knob. And now you get a little bit of a wiggle, see. But as you continue to talk about it, that wiggle freezes. Now, you have to go up to 3.5 to get a reading on the thing and it's wobbly now at 3.5. See, it's happy, wobbly, everything is fine, and as you talk about it a little bit more at 3.5 it sticks again. Well, of course, it would be awfully stuck back here at 2.0; you wouldn't even be perceptibly moving. So we turn it all the way around as far as it will go to about 5 o'clock on the E-Meter and we get a wobble. Now, we can still read, he still reacts on the needle, see, and then this sticks.

But the point was that it wasn't about to heal, and I was for sure not going to go around with my arm in a sling, so I just let the thing ride. And the bones kept grating against the bones, and I'd say, „Well, I'll get around to that later,“ you know. And the bones kept grating against the bones and I got so I couldn't pick up a package of cigarettes, finally. So my auditor says, „We'd better do something about this.“ „Oh, better do something about it? Well, I suppose we had. Well...“ You know, this sort of an attitude. Not that I was brave; it was simply that the arm was a Rock, see? It was right on the Rock chain of „beams.“ Beams would have audited much better; doing things with beams and getting a little bit mad at arms because they substitute for beams but don't reach far enough and then don't disappear, you know, after you're through using them. You see, this was what I was up against there and I was totally neglecting this whole arm area. It was just as gone as you could get. See? Naturally healing goes in ratio to the amount of communication you're willing to put on the area. The more communication you're willing to put on the area, the greater healing will occur. Well, the person who has no communication in an area very often doesn't know he doesn't have any communication in the area.

Well, believe me, there's nowhere you can go from there. Well, simply talking about it and shoving his nose into it is going to increase the tone arm reading of the meter, just talking about it diagnostically But when you start to run it, it will decrease the tone arm; you'll get erratic up and down behavior of the tone arm. If you're wrong, you will only get it going up. You're improving his ability to mock up, so on.

I found a person the other day, says „Communicate with the body? Why, what do you think? Do you think I'm crazy? Every time I communicate with it, it hurts like hell! Why should I communicate with it?“ Interesting computation.

Now, when you talk about it, you're throwing it into restimulation so, of course, you'll get a rise in resistance on the case; of course you'll get a rise in tone arm; of course things will look stickier. Do you get the idea? But you're not being therapeutic yet.

Person really not in very bad shape. You'd think that person was in awful shape but in view of the fact that bodies aren't the only thing that could be wrong with a thetan, don't you see, as pointed out, you narrow the scope here enormously.

Now, don't mistake this fact. You can have a case that's so fast on its feet that it can even start blowing the Rock; but boy, would an individual have to be in terrific shape to start blowing a Rock on two-way comm. The case would be practically Clear already to just blow on two-way comm back and forth. And you won't run into this, not for a long time. See? You have a person be very near Clear that would disobey this, but he himself would start recognizing and cogniting on the Rock and on this and on that. And he'd follow back down the chain, you get the idea? And you'd have it made in the shade. You'd know what you were looking at because your tone arm would be coming down, as he did that, to his reading for Clear. The more you talked, why, the more it would come back there.

And this person could communicate with trees and automobiles and, you know, MEST and space and perfectly happy and - just overlooked the body. And I was sympathetic to this because that's to some degree what I do.

Well, believe me, the more you talk, the further and higher it rises. Got that? - if you're wrong. You're just making him worse and worse and worse and worse. Because you're addressing the thing at all, you're to some slight degree improving his ability to mock up, so he's busy mocking up everything under the sun, moon and stars, and it's all going into identification with the Rock. Don't you see? And you're getting more and more things piled on top of the Rock until you just have a beautiful, big, horrible, slurpy mass and your pc's stuck in it with gum boots. Got the idea? So diagnosis is very easy because the Rock always has its sign up: „There's something really wrong here.“ It's sticking out, it's visible and you just talk about all these visible things one after the other, and watch whether or not they stick your needle. And if they stick your needle and if you start auditing them, you get an improvement of the case, a drop of the tone arm or a rise of the tone arm back to the normal reading for Clear of that case, then you're close enough to the Rock to audit it. So buy it and keep looking out for anything closer. And don't Q-and-A on this „anything closer“ until you have what you've got, freed.

I'll pull off and not pay any attention to the body for a long time, get too interested in the government or the war or something, you know, something stupid. And I put all my concentration on that and all of a sudden this body starts going blahhh. See? And I'd say, „Wait a minute, I'd better mock that thing up.“ You know? And I'd mock it up again and it goes along fine.

So you keep a list of all the things that made the needle stick on your pc and keep that list well, and pass it on to the next person that audits, if auditors are going to be transferred, because you won your stuff the hard way.

Now, not to inject much personality into this, this area that is the Rock is the area which is totally real to the preclear, but the preclear isn't communicating with in any way.

One of these things is the Rock. Something or at least anything that makes it stick is on the identified chain of the Rock.

So in this particular case, „arms“ were totally real to me, „arms“ but not this arm. Sounds funny, you know. „Arms! Oh, arms. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I've hacked them off and patched them up and healed them and done this with them and that with them, and blown somebody's arm off when he was about to shoot me. And you know, I mean arms, naturally. Sure, you have a lot of randomity about arms.“ It was a great surprise to me, and the cognition in this particular case was, that I didn't have the whole elbow section of this arm. It was just missing. It was just missing. It was as cleanly missing as though you look at this desk and you don't see it. Get the idea? That's the only way a busted bone could go on existing in an area and not have anybody do anything about it. You see? You just neglect it, the old „panther mechanism,“ total neglect.

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I could have probably gone into long and involved discussions about arms without getting into any serious trouble because I just would have hit it lightly, wouldn't have paid any attention to it. And it all would have been intellectual discussion anyway.

But when I say anything is liable to show up, when I say anything is liable to show up on the thing, anything, you usually can look back with those six-foot rearview mirrors and say, „For heaven's sakes, why didn't I see that in the first place?“ Your expertness increases, of course, to the degree that you get confidence in being able to spot whatever it is.

The moment somebody said to me, „How could you help an arm?“ It was „Well - that's a funny question. What a silly thing to ask somebody. You know? You can't help an arm, everybody knows that.“ Clearing the auditing command again, „What is an arm?“ „Well, it's a spear.“ „It's a what?“ „It's a spear or a hatchet or a short sword or anything like that. That's an arm.“ „Oh! you're talking about an arm? Oh! Oh! I get it. I get it. I get it. Yeah, I - don't - don't - don't tell me now, don't evaluate for me. I - you're talking about a body's arm, like yours.“ Just a silly zone of no communication but compulsive communication. You get the idea?

Remember, the Rock is something that is being obsessively mocked up. It is being mocked up all the time you are talking to the preclear but when you talk to him about it, you make it mocked up more. So of course, all it's going to do is stick harder.

Audience: Yeah.

And the other things that are sticky on the case, the more you talk about them, the more you blow them because they're not being obsessively mocked up. You turned them on, got them mocked up and when you came off of it a little bit or talked about it a little bit, you relieved the obsession of mocking up. So they weren't the Rock; they were just something that came in close to the Rock and then passed out again. The Rock is unalterable except by processes. It doesn't, in the cases you will be handling, blow on two-way comm.

Anybody can pick these up. You've got one right this minute that would be entirely too unreal to audit. And I don't say that as evaluation, but you don't - you don't have a clue, I'm sure, what's going on in some area of Asia. See? I am sure that you should be or could be rather easily in communication with it. Don't you see? But you aren't in communication with it.

So the game is, try to stick that needle. A psychosomatic is a good lead-in. Something the individual under no circumstances would ever create is a good lead-in. The thing which he instinctively distrusts is a good lead-in. The thing which he knows, if it were solved, then everything on earth would get better, is a good lead-in. And you follow this down and locate objects and things associated with it, and finally hit it, and so on.

It goes so far as to say that if one person in this particular group right here, right now, was in thorough communication with all of Russia and Asia, there wouldn't even vaguely be a war. Get the idea? Somebody pan-determining it; otherwise, it's all running off without a communication, everybody abandoning responsibility for it. Don't you see? It'll eventually generate into an individuation of some kind or another.

Once in a blue moon, Scientology itself is a lead-in, but that's only once in a blue moon. It leads a person back here and the idiot has got Scientology sitting as a lock on something that was going to cure everything and do everything two or three million years ago but which really did him in, you see. The more he hears about Scientology, the more it upsets him. And you find him lying eventually with a temple pillar across the back of his neck and his head squashed on the floor. See? Way back someplace or another.

I'm not talking mysteriously. When you abandon and don't know you've abandoned communication with an area for which you are basically responsible, you are then going to get trouble from that area. That's for sure. And every place in the world that you are not aware of now has, to some tiny degree, a potential threat for that particular reason. And any place that you are compulsively not very damn well going to communicate with - if you went there by accident, if you joined the army and they sent you there, of course, as they would - you'd probably get your silly head blown off. It'd be the one place in the world that could totally affect you because it's a place in the world with which you will not communicate. Got it?

Has nothing to do with Scientology; it's just, Scientology was irrationally a key-in on top of it. The thing that freed him was the thing that was going to trap him.

Audience: Mm.

Do you get this?

If you could consider communication as a kind of a balm or a salve that when spread liberally brings total calm, and consider the areas where it is not, to be those areas that things can go haywire in, you will find one characteristic of the Rock.

Do you think you can do it a little bit better now?

The other one is, that is the inhibitor at work. Now you are in communication with the area or it wouldn't exist, but you've got another mock-up sitting on it, just like I had on this arm, see, nice little zone mock-up. It wasn't probably any bigger than a salad plate in the whole world, and it was that close up and I just had a total inhibitor put on it. See? And there it was.

Audience: Mm-hm.

So, communication was being actively denied to that area. Don't you see? But all other areas that were associated with this area, identified with it, became more real as a result. Because, of course, you kind of had to watch those because you had it dimly in mind that it was dangerous. Otherwise you wouldn't have inhibited this area, so therefore you had to watch the situation. Do you get the idea? But you didn't ever look in the right place.

Do you?

You see, it was your action or is your action that knocks out the communication in that part of Asia from which you're going to get trouble. See? You've got a repressor on it.

Audience: Mm-hm.

What is the atomic bomb and the army and the navy and so forth but an inhibitor that's trying to inhibit the action of Asia. Well, the more inhibitor there is on an area, the more real atomic bombs and so forth are liable to become, but not in that area. You say, „Well, it wouldn't hurt us if any atomic bombs fell over there.“ Oh, bull.

All right, thank you.

Do you get how this Rock works?

Audience: Thank you.

Audience: Mm.

Hm?

I've tried in numerous ways to cover this thing, but if you just get a picture of this thing being obsessively mocked up; the thing is totally wrong; there's something totally wrong with it, everything tied into it, and then you've got sitting over the top of it some kind of an inhibitor which is saying, „Under no circumstances will I communicate with this.“ When you find yourself communicating with it, you're liable to be very surprised because you've denied yourself. You see? And you get your preclear to communicate with this thing and he'll say, „Oh-ho, there's nothing to that. Bow ties, I can always communicate with a bow tie. That just shows you...“ so forth. „Bow tie. What are you talking about bow ties for?“ You say, „Well, bow ties are decorative, aren't they?“ „Well, I wouldn't know about that, urn ...“ You know?

Want to go on auditing, of course, very cooperative about the whole thing. „I don't see why you're covering this particular subject.“ This would be an average, off-the-street reaction. See? If you were to ask him, „How can you help a bow tie?“ you're liable to run into an automaticity. See, it's a jammed up Help factor that's got this thing moved out, and you're liable to run into an automaticity. It goes like this, you know, „How could you help a bow tie?“ „Well, you could tie it, you could strangle somebody, you could run it up and down the hill, you could burn it. You could make it much flouncier; you could buy new - uh...“ You couldn't even articulate the number of answers which go pouring off of it.

You ask it on the wrong side and he says, „There must be - everybody knows you can't help a bow tie, see.“ That's on the stuck side, you see. Every one of these super-stucks has got an automaticity pushed up against it on the other side. And bow ties, bow ties.

Well, you say, „Thetans back on the track never wore bow ties, so I'm too late on the track. I'm much too late on the track. That's for sure.“ „Let's try 'hanging.'„ „Hanging, nah.“ „Mooring lines?“ See, you've got, rope, necktie, and so on. How close can he get to a gallows rope? See, it's a mooring line for a boat. Ha-ha. See? We go on back down the line; we're liable to find in the final analysis it'll fall off the case that it's a beam or something with which you strangle somebody. And he too often has used this to keep people from going in the wrong direction, or things from moving in the wrong direction. And then he got into an obsessive „do it.“ And then one fine day, somebody he liked real well, some object he liked very well started to move away and he threw a beam around its neck and he cut its whole head off. Thunk! He says, „I'd better not communicate with necks.“ See? So „neck“ would be part of this but wouldn't be it. „Bow tie“ or „a tie“ of any kind might be it. „Necklace.“ See? A whole bunch of stuff would be on this, each one of which would be sticky, but you're not going to run stuff like „modern bow ties“ and get anyplace with the case. That's fairly obvious.

So you're going to have to go back to hangings or you're going to have to go back to garrotes, or you're going to have to go back to something that is dangerous around the neck.

Male voice: Ron, there was a process you mentioned once in London, „Tell me something you wouldn't mind not communicating with.“ And you said the more you ran this, the deeper the guy went in the hole.

That's a good process - possibly a diagnostic process here. I've been looking for diagnostic processes lately, and I think you've hit it there. I think it'd be any process that tended to run the guy into the hole, would be running him up on the Rock.

For instance, one of the reasons „Things you are not going to communicate with“ or „Things you wouldn't mind going out of communication with,“ so forth, would certainly include the inhibitor.

But there is a rule about inhibitors that has been demonstrated here recently in a series of tests I've made and that is: don't monkey with the inhibitor if you possibly can. The inhibitor isn't the thing; it is simply the symptom of the condition.

And the more you disturb a field as itself, the more you audit a field, the more you audit the non-communication of an area, the more you seem to bring power into the original creation which is the painful thing - the original creation is the painful thing, not the inhibitor on top of it - so, the more you shake up an inhibitor, the worse your preclear is going to get. At least that seems to be the demonstrated rule here about this time.

Male voice: Will he go into obsessively mocking up the thing that..

Oh, yes. And it would get realer and realer and more and more and more and more solid and rowhrrrr! You can, by the way, turn on the Rock full scale, and I tried this several times just on the theory that it'd show up and that he would see it. And he never does.

One more?

Female voice: Uh-huh. On the question of your neckties, back to the hangman, in running Help, would you run „How could you help a hangman ?“ or „How could you help a knot around the neck?“

Ah, yeah.

Female voice: Which one would you run? „How could you help a hangman?“

Oh, it doesn't matter, it's what stuck. It's what stuck.

Female voice: So „How could you help a hangman?“ would work?

If that's the one that stuck.

Female voice: Thank you.

A „necktie,“ by the way, would perhaps pull off of it and loosen up the needle. See, you might be able to skim the lock off the top of the thing. You know? But you get just a little closer in and anything connected with it'll start sticking it. And then you really got to look sharp.

And remember the chain you're on when you're doing something like that.

You can always free up one of these super-stuck needles by running Connectedness. Remember that. And you can get the individual back on out into present time and the physical universe and key this thing out by redirecting his attention. Remember, you can do this.

If you've really stuck a guy in deep and gotten nowhere, why, just run some Connectedness and you'll loosen up the needle and pull him out of it. You got that? That's always the preventer on this analytic approach.

Okay Well, we've talked an awful long time, but I think you needed quite a bit of information about this. Right?

Audience: Mm.

Think it's helped you out any?

Audience: Oh yeah. Yeah.

All right. Thank you.

Audience: Thank you.