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GROUP PROCESSING: CRAVE TO KNOW

SPIRITUAL AND MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS OF MAN

A lecture and Group Processing demonstration given on 31 August 1956A lecture given on 31 August 1956

We had to get that out of the road and get that all squared away and get Dianetics all wrapped up, finished, so that you won't have to know any more about that, because there's a lot of mysteries around here of one kind or another.

You never quite saw anybody as happy as I am to be home. Honest.

We look up and down the wall there, we find Declaration of Human Rights, United Nations. You wonder what on earth do we have to do with that. We look back here, we find a terrific number of flags and we say, "Well, that all goes in with the United Nations program." No that isn't. We've got people in every single one of those countries.

Over in England when I left they said, "You won't be able to get away from there if you go home. You'll leave, you'll stay in America." And the boys have been hinting around here — they've been hinting that it might be a good idea if I remained in America now. And that's all very well and I — they have been on their good behavior; they've done everything I have asked them to do; they've done a lot of things that I haven't asked them to do. They made a grand job out of this congress; they're — these boys night and day, about twenty-four hours a day — have been going around here for the last week getting this congress ready for you people and for us. And this is very, very touching — very touching. So, right here at the outset I will have to confess to being a very weak man. I — I can be swayed; I can be influenced; I'm not the strong character I should be. People's opinions and expressions, particularly from my dearest friends, do have an effect on me. And so I've just tossed in the sponge and I am going to stay.

Yes, sir.

Thank you very much. I seem to have detected there was some — one or two in the audience that wanted me to stay, too. So, thank you.

And in addition to that — in addition to that I will show you shortly that we're a little bit better supported than the United Nations.

A great deal has happened in a year, a great deal. We are making progress at a rate which I have never before seen. It doesn't mean that there have been enormous numbers of changes. You can hardly call them "changes" when I'm dumping about three-quarters of it on you right here in the congress — thud for the first time really.

I hope nobody will tell you — the United Nations that because I wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.

But during this last year we have been able to bring Scientology up and put some long pants on it, dress it up, bring it into a level of workability that it's never before even vaguely been able to approach. We have been working — the lot of us — with preclears, with cases, for six years now. And we've slaved away, we've ground away. Some of us have used a little Carborundum on the case, you know. Somebody else has whittled; somebody else has used a solvent of some sort to clean the spots off the case. We've gotten along, we've worked hard, we have striven — every one of us with very good intention — to do the very best we could for the cases, for the people on the various dynamics in order to achieve a higher ability and a better state for man.

But the truth of the matter is that the people who were in those countries aren't trying to chisel the people in those countries into some program or favor which makes the people in the other countries subservient to the people in those countries, you know?

The past six years have been a testing ground, a research area whereby we were getting together the tools necessary for a task. I feel ashamed of myself because it didn't happen in 51, it didn't happen in 52, 53, 54, 55, 56 — not until now, at the end of 56 here, toward the end, that I could honestly say ... Now just — let's just kick out the optimism, let's just kick out the sales talks, let's just say, well, he had to keep people interested and we were doing more for man than anybody had ever done before. The difficulty on the original state of Clear came about mainly because the techniques used to produce one in 1947 were never put in anybody's hands. We had a special method of running engrams: You simply built the man's confidence in being able to handle them till he threw them all away and he was a Clear. And that happened in a great many cases, but it didn't happen in 50. People were grinding away hard and slow.

In other words, there's no United Nation program mixed up with those flags at all. Even the United Nations and ourselves are at peace. I mean there's just peace reigning everywhere. There's hardly anybody fighting any-body right at the present time. Oh, of course, there's a little matter of Sydney fighting Melbourne and Melbourne fighting Sydney. Johannesburg fighting Pretoria, Pretoria fighting the HASI. The small matter of — of Los Angeles fighting Phoenix and Phoenix still trying to scrap Washington. But little — this is — that's nothing, see? That's understandable warfare.

In 51, 52, 53, 54, 55 we were doing more for man individually, than man had ever done for man before, but that was not enough, that was not enough, nowhere near enough. It's the idea of sitting down and grinding away on a preclear, auditing him, making him do this and do that and bringing up his state of health to a level of being human, of being able to function, of being able to mote somehow or another, that wasn't enough. That wasn't what we were shooting for. It wasn't high enough!

Because, what are they fighting about? Each one of them is fighting to be better than the others. Each one of them is fighting for better recognition for what they are actually doing to help mankind. And our people in those countries in the last week have actually done more to help mankind resolve its problems than any other organization on the face of Earth. And therefore, it's not entirely a gag or a joke that I tell you that what you're looking at there might mean more for man than the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.

All right. I've given you the best I knew. I've given you the best research and test reports that I could. I've kept things going forward one way or another. Sometimes tired, but never without hope. I knew that somewhere forward just as you did — there was coming into being, better and better processes, and there was coming into being, a time when we could process somebody above the level of merely being human or merely being well.

And that's not because of what I'm doing; I'm just a workhorse. I just work, you know. I just try to keep — keep in people's roads and — I mean keep out of people's roads.

What this society needs is ability. Have you tried to hire anybody lately? Even the Irish agree — even the Irish agree that man could be more able. In fact they agree so thoroughly that when our office opened up a Personnel Efficiency Course in Dublin, the Irish — the Irish came in and said, "What are you fellows doing here?" This, I said, this is the American College of Personnel Efficiency."

But wherever the sun rises and sets today, Scientology is bringing them up Tone Scale. Wherever the sun shines, and during the entire revolution of its shining, the sun — I'd never dare say this in England — but the sun might be setting now occasionally on some parts of the British Empire, but the sun does not set today on this little empire of a human mind of which we're all a part.

And the Irish said, "Oh? Oh?" And they said, "Do we need that!" This seems to be man's opinion the world around. It's one thing on which man is fairly well agreed — that man could be more able.

Two years ago we had lots of hopes. Today we have lots of facts.

But the devil of it is, you have to reduce his disabilities somehow and get them disposed of or get his attention out of them before you can actually begin to make him more able, and most of us have been involved in making his disabilities less troublesome simply in the hope that he would then extrovert and do better, and those are the results that we normally see.

A few years ago, we were trying to figure out what we were doing and where we were going. Today we have a very, very good idea of where we're going and most of us, particularly those who have been through recent material, certainly know what they're doing.

But a great deal has happened in the past year; a great deal has happened!

A Scientologist really knows better what he's doing than any other skilled professional on the face of Earth. That's a fact. He could do his job better — any of us could do our job better. There are things that one could learn that exist right now and are being taught which would greatly better one's ability to handle any given situation. But, Scientology as a little, tiny empire, even though it has tremendous area, is very peculiar. A lot of auditors lacking enough opponents — a lot of Scientologists occasionally say, "Oh, this Scientologist — that Scientologist is not so good, and so forth." They just want a little bite. But from where I sit — from where I sit I have never known a Scientologist to have other than the best possible intentions toward his people and mankind. When you hear a rumor of some kind or another, remember that. I've been in a position to observe it all these years.

Now, let's just lay aside the sales talk; let's just forget about — be charitable, forget about the nice things I've said about what Dianetics would do and what Scientology would do. Be kind. That is what you're supposed to do here, see? It's what you are supposed to do. You're supposed to be kind and charitable and forgive all — even Ron, you see.

And whatever he was doing, he was doing what he was doing because he thought it was the right thing to do. In other words, you can trust the people in Scientology no matter which one of those flags he flies. You understand that — that there's a body of people on Earth today who can be trusted, whose intentions are good and whose intentions get better.

And when preclears sat there and Ron said that this and that ought to do this and that for him, the phenomena was there — I think you will agree to that — the phenomena was there; the process did have a biteability; it did bring him up; there was — thing — things did happen. But you were never satisfied with the final result, were you? Let's speak honestly — not entirely, completely, uniformly, preclear to preclear satisfied with the final result.

No, you shouldn't have applauded that one really, because I'm talking about you.

You've seen a preclear here and a preclear there that — you could have done more for him. You just knew somehow that if you knew how, you could have done more for him than you did. Now, that doesn't mean that you didn't do plenty for him, but we're extremists! You did more for him than the witch doctors — than — well, the witch doctors ... Just a minute, I'll think of some modern practice that is outside this classification of witch doctor. Well, the witch doctors couldn't have done as much as we've done by about half. The fact of the matter is that 22 percent of man gets well anyway. You come in and you give him a glass of water and you say, "Sir, if you will merely drink a glass of water every morning before breakfast, your symptoms of epiglosis will disappear." And they do — they do. This gives the entire field — it's not a field — something or other of medicine. Just a moment, I've been over in Great Britain. I've had to speak correctly all this time. The modern abattoir of medicine disrespects healing done by the mind — by means of the mind. They don't respect it, because they say, "Somebody comes in, I give him flour and water mixed up into a pill and he takes it and he gets well, and there's nothing in it, so therefore the mind does have an influence, so therefore mental healing has no validity or purpose or application!" I think you'll agree with me that that is the conclusion they take.

Now, wherever we have — wherever we have people, wherever we have an office, we have good intentions and willing hearts. It has been a little bit heartbreaking to me as the years went on not to be able to do my particular job faster. It's taken me six years to wrap these subjects pretty well up.

Audience: Yes.

I'll tell you a funny story. It's a joke on me. I wouldn't permit anybody else to mention it. A couple of months ago I was slumped on the sofa in my office. I was feeling bad — I was feeling very bad. That's very unusual. I was in a turmoil. I was upset. I was staring straight into the teeth of an end of a game called research. And I knew why I felt bad. I said, "What am I going to do?"

I think you will agree with me.

I said there's — here it is. I said the Tone Scale has come to life, and preclears are walking up it. And the auditors that we get ahold of and train, they're doing the darnedest things with people. Well, I just guess I'll have to retire, because my job's pretty well done.

Well, 22 percent of man get well no matter what you do for them. You make the sign of the Comanche on their forehead and they say, "Well, what do you know! Arm moves again." But that's only 22 percent.

Mary Sue got ahold of me and she gave me some auditing. She knew better than to say, "What's the matter with you?" "Yow, yow, yow, yow, yow ..."

How do you make any betterment of that figure? If we were able to bring it up to an average 30 percent, we would have bettered the results of any organization or school of healing or treatment or practice of the past; just 30 percent is all we would need in order to top it. What if we took it to 40? Well, Dianetics took it to 50 in 1950; on an average, 50 percent of the people who would consent with ... Oh, what trust!

So Suzie, giving me the business and "problems of comparable magnitude to finishing up research" and a few minor things like this — and I said, "Just a minute" — I was getting a cognition, you know. "Just a minute," I said. "There's just something here that's right on the tip of my mind." I said, "Don't ask me that question again." I said, "I really — really . . ." Then I said, "What do you know — what do you know, we've been six years assembling materials and tools so that we would have a game to play. Research never was a game. In other words, we're about to start."

When I think of the way we used to audit! "The somatic strip will now go to . . . When I snap my fingers the first phrase of the engram will occur." Curl up in a ball, on the floor — the birth sequence. "Oh, you want to say something? Well you're just avoiding, shut up! Get into valence."

Well, I don't know whether you think the congress has started or not. The congress started yet?

The poor guy gets three feet back of his head, you know, and he says, "Wheee!" You know, "What do you know, I'm not a body." And he says, "You know, I'm looking at this from a distance."

Audience: Yes.

And the auditor says, "Get back into valence!" The things we didn't know have filled the remaining books since. Very, very wonderful, but we pushed it up to 50 percent. And just about 50 percent of the cases couldn't run engrams. If we could get a case to run engrams smoothly and so forth, we could generally in oh, a few hours of — I mean, a few hours. for us at that time — five, six hundred hours — get him over his asthma or something of the sort. It was pretty successful — pretty successful by and large, and it was an awful lot of fun. Could you produce an effect upon people — wow!

Well, all right. Hello!

I remember one time there was an attorney out in California, down in Palm Springs, and he had heard something about Dianetics — making such a horrible commotion up in Los Angeles — and he says, "What is this thing, Dianetics?" He says, you know, "What is this thing?"

Audience: Hello.

And I said, "Oh, it's a way of handling the mind."

Okay. In other words, we've got this thing wheeling, huh?

And he said, "Well — uh — what — uh — what good's that?" You know, standard reaction.

Audience: Yeah.

So I said, "Well, supposing you could say a magic phrase, snap your fingers, and a witness on the witness stand that you didn't want to testify, would curl up in a ball and fall out of the chair on the floor?"

It's going?

"Oh," he says, "that would be useful."

Audience: Yeah.

Now, you don't have to believe this, but I had witnesses. So I said, "The somatic strip will return to three months after conception. The first phrase of the engram will occur." It's an absolute fact that the somatic strip will obey you much better than it obeys the preclear. What fantastic things we did; how much we learned.

Good. Very, very good.

And time went on and we pulled out of that and recognized some things that were not very palatable to people. But I must confess to you that I have never consulted palatability in terms of data. If I saw it, I said so. If I noted it happened, I didn't consult the Ladies' Aid Society as to the publishability of the material. I didn't consult anybody. I simply published the material, that's that. If I found a new way and a better way of doing something, I published the material.

Now, I'd hate to have to — I'd hate to have to ask you this because I know it's — I'll have to persuade you. I know I'll have to persuade you a lot. And I know there are a lot of new people here that'll have to be persuaded likewise. I — and it kind of embarrasses me because I've never asked you before — but would you like some Group Processing?

And exteriorization came along and a very large percentage of the Dianeticists didn't. We know why since: they can't look at a static. It hurts them. They can't look at a thin spot in space up here and stay comfortable in the midriff; it's too upsetting to them. It's just a mechanical fact — it's too bad. We have a process today that they could be run on for five, ten minutes — they'd be able to look at a static and they would have come right along with us, but this is a long time since. They're coming back. I am trying to get in touch with most of them as a matter of fact, saying, "Hey, guys, come over here. There's an indoctrination course running in there. How about you getting a couple of boilerplate patches on your engram bank and square it around and put you back in the running?"

Audience: Yeah!

Well, an astonishing number of things have happened. And during the last six months we find ourselves completely and entirely back in Dianetics, running engrams at a rate of speed you never dreamed of, and having to run them to really clean up a case well. We find ourselves back where we came in. All of the phenomena, all of the "curl up in the ball and fall on the floor," the screamer, the sperm sequence, those horrible things that came up and actually effectively in the long run completely blew up the Foundation in Elizabeth that couldn't agree on them. Preclears kept lying down on the couch and presenting past deaths and the board there tried to make it illegal to run one. It's very, very bad to — I know, to have something that's unacceptable — hasn't been acceptable to most people; it's been known about for a long time but hasn't been acceptable.

So — so what we really ought to do here then, wouldn't you say, is have a little session, huh? That's all right?

In the engram, a moment of pain and unconsciousness contained in a mental image picture containing an instant of exteriorization — pain, unconsciousness, exteriorization — is found to be the engram we were looking for, all up and down the track. And we have a way to run it that doesn't run it very directly, but simply blows it out of existence. We have a way now of getting a "case computation" — remember that word, sound familiar? The service facsimile — remember that? The main engram on the track and the psycho-somatic problems as they exist in present time, abolished with maybe fifteen hours of running. Twenty-five, thirty-five hours of running probably would straighten out a lifetime, but I don't have exact data on how long it takes to clean up seventy-six trillion years. But it's less time than you think.

Audience: Yeah.

Why I use this "seventy-six trillion years" — you old-timers remember that — Time magazine one time devoted a whole page to ribbing me. A year later they were saying that I had discovered it. Two years from now they will probably be saying they've always been my friend.

I take it then — I take it then on the slight hint that you've given me, that it would be all right if I audited you?

But here we have — here we have an incredible piece of news and not one of you have taken it in yet. We don't have to, maybe. The processes we have in Scientology are sufficiently good that they handle it in some other fashion, but the problem of the thetan is the problem of the mind; the problem of beingness, the problem of the spirit, is his problem with the mind. Unless we solve that very directly, we can't make fast progress. But we're making that progress. I'll get it through to you in a minute: you're back in Dianetics! There's a lot of old Dianeticists sitting there. And some of you new Scientologists, and some of you guests that were patient enough, if with some misgivings, to come along with your overenthusiastic friend — you want to know what Dianetics is. You came to hear about Scientology.

Audience: Yes.

Well, Scientology is a science which even includes Dianetics! No, Scientology is a study of the construction of universes and the role played in them by a spiritual being; the background of masses, spaces, energy, thought and its relative positions person to person, dynamic to dynamic. It is a very broad technical subject.

Okay?

Dianetics was a pretty — pretty good subject. It went up to the fourth dynamic and it handled a thing called a mental image picture, called an engram, and these mental image pictures were discovered to be housed, kept, maintained, stowed, hidden, stashed, in a reactive mind which was over thisa-way — on some preclears that-a-way. On other preclears it was a little electric train that went across with a word in each car. Dianetics believed — and very, very agreeably — that there was such a thing as the analytical mind and the reactive mind. And the analytical mind was what you were consciously thinking with and doing; thinkingness turning into doingness. And most of that was done by the analytical mind.

Well now, a word of warning — a word of warning to new people who are here: You new people — anybody that's only been in it four or five years is new people. I get a kick out of these old auditors; they walk around and they speak about these modern auditors. "Never run any engram, huh? Well now, back in the old days . . ."

But a great many hidden responses — automaticities we called them later — were hidden in a mind called the reactive mind which operated on a stimulus-response basis. Somebody says "cat," the mind said "cat." Somebody says "mother," the mind said "meowww!" We tried to love our neighbors and some-thing said "hate." You say, "Where did that come from?" You say, "I love my neighbors." Something said, "You know you hate your neighbors." Circuitry. Fellows had little — little things that sat up here and every time they said something, why, the little circuit said, "You boob." You know, all these little gimmicks and gadgets talked about in Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health and succeeding publications and the tapes of that period all comprised Dianetics.

It's very funny, when this new material came out on engrams — I'm not going to audit you on engrams — but when this new material came out on engrams why, almost all of the (quote) modern auditors (unquote) went around to the old-timers and they said, "rrrrrrr-rrrrrr . . ." And the old-timer would say, "Well, I'll run an engram on you. Lie down."

Now, there was one item in Dianetics which was not very well looked over. We didn't look over this particularly. There was very little said about this. I knew it existed. I wasn't particularly interested in it since I didn't understand what I was looking at on a lower level, and I was not prone to leap over large hurdles and grab at material I didn't know about, when I didn't know what the hurdle was, you know. In other words, I am not, you might say, a standard issue research man that — that you know he — he says, "Well, undoubtedly Professor Umph knows about that. We'll go over here. This is more interesting over here. Old Jones probably knows about that ..." And these "probably knows" finally accumulate into a science. And then somebody examines all this hash that is an alleged science and finds out it all boils down to "probably knows" without saying what. Well, that was the state of affairs of the mind when Dianetics came on the scene.

All right. Well, enough of this shilly-shallying. I want to tell you who, if you haven't been in Scientology too long, I would like to caution you — very definitely caution you about just sitting there and not running the process. I'm not joking now. Anybody around you can tell you that this is a fatal course in Group Auditing. After a while, why, you feel — you say, "What is he talking about?" Thud!

But there was this little thing called an "awareness of awareness unit." The unit that was aware of being aware. It wasn't even discussed very much. But that "horrible little germ" came along and corrupted and ruined the whole science.

Then the seminar leaders who are standing by here and their assistants will have to say, "Lie down on the couch." But I'll tell you that's not a good way to get an engram run because some of these seminar leaders are very, very good but they're modern auditors — they've never run one. And that's pretty bad. So there they are, up and down there. They're the boys that you'll be seeing tonight and they're standing by on this Group Auditing in case some new — newcomer is foolish enough not to do any of these commands and in case some old-timer does them too well. All right. All right.

I remember an old — an old auditor in Elizabeth. He and I were having a — having a very, very good time talking about the probabilities of this and that and why decay came about if survival was the only thing things did. And by the way, that's true, you know, apparency is — of decay is all the decay there is. Thetans go on forever. Anyway, we were talking about this and we went along very nicely and very smoothly, trying to find out why things caved in if their total ambition was to be destroyed. So, we decided — we decided — I advanced this theory and said — said, "All things" — now this was just a hypothesis, you know, not a real theory — "all things might be said to carry with them the germs of their own destruction." That was a possibility — why things became ill. They seem to have to have along with them each one a germ of its own destruction.

Now, Group Processing is an exercise by which the auditor stands up in front of a group and asks them to do silly things which they do obediently and it's just, you know, funfest-like barn dancing and nothing happens and at the end of that time, everybody feels cheerful, okay?

Governments construct themselves perfectly except for a little flaw over here, and one day the flaw suddenly becomes a crack and the crack suddenly becomes a chasm and the government suddenly becomes a hole in the ground. So, advanced this interesting hypothesis. We kicked this around for some time. We abandoned it as untenable. Untenable hypothesis. Ha! And all the time, in the back of Modern Science of Mental Health, it said there is an awareness of awareness unit. And that was the germ that destroyed, apparently, Dianetics. Do you see that?

Audience: Yeah.

We kept talking about mental image pictures, the reactive mind, the somatic mind, the analytical mind, how man thought, how he combined pictures, emotions, perceptions, so that these things would reapply themselves to his body and he could do this and he could do that with them and he could do something else with them. And we never said what was looking at them! Come on you old Dianeticists, think about that. That's true, isn't it? We never said who was looking at them! We simply said you. Didn't we?

Huh? Is that a good description of it?

Audience: Yes.

Audience: Yeah.

And the engrams might be on cells and get blown up and they might be here and they might do there, but they undoubtedly were the basic cause of aberrated conduct. We can prove this. You — don't let an old Dianeticist near you if you are a new Scientologist to run an engram. You want to look at a real engram, you say. You know, what is all this stuff: mother, sex? The news-papers used to say pornography. What is all this stuff? Prenatal chains .. . Well, what is this stuff here? Goes on and on. A fellow can remember every-thing that happens to him at all times, including everything that occurs, even in the depths of an operation. Boom! That's too uncomfortable!

All right.

And I'm sure — I'm sure that you as a new Scientologist would be very wise, educationally, to calmly lie down on a couch. That, by the way was the sign of the coffin case. He would come in to get audited and lie there, stiff, stark, flat out on the couch, pulse — clammy. We would say, "How are you getting along?"

Now, I would dearly love to actually run you on some — some tough processes, but we do have new members in our midst. So, I'm afraid that you people who have had lots of Group Auditing will be disappointed because — well, as a matter of fact — matter of fact, I'm going to run you on nothing but very, very old processes. Is that all right?

"Fine."

Audience: Yeah.

You'd run engram after engram after engram. We had a lot of these cases along and several of them were on the board at Elizabeth that voted not to research any past deaths. They were in them, see.

Well, I invented the process I'm going to run on you Monday. And they're out of date now. They're all out of date. But we'll run them anyway. And another word of caution is, don't audit these on a preclear till you've been through indoctrination; you'll find he won't be able to take it. What's the matter? "You mean he's going to audit Group Processing commands on some-body, that he advises us not to audit on preclears. Is that right?" That's right.

In other words, a person gets stuck in one of these engrams and then heis the pictures of the engrams; then he does the things the engram perceptionsays. It's like looking at a big piece of motion picture film, you know. And youas a modern Scientologist say, "Well, I think I ought to lie down and let thisold Dianeticist run an engram," see. Dianeticists are horrible people to restrain.The Dianeticist is saying, "Ha-ha-ha! The somatic strip will — ha-ha — return to the incident necessary to resolve your case." It used to, too. Anyhow, whether you could run it or not or hold the preclear in it while he screamed dismally was quite something else.

I'm going to audit you on some stuff — some commands — that have been audited successfully on groups by Hubbard. So, just lay aside your notebook , and if you buy a set of congress tapes or do something foolish like that, take tape number two out and burn it.

But anyway, preclears would blow up, roll on the floor, scream, lie there and have nothing happen at all and then for the next four days have measles, except no germs were present. All kinds of wild manifestations would occur.

Now, in Group Auditing we do something very peculiar. We look up front here and find out if there's a wall. Well, when I ask you if there's a wall up here, why, you pick anything that you can see that vaguely looks like a wall, you understand? Hm? Vaguely looks like a wall. You just do — take any — anything up there or here or that or if your tolerance is very high, why, you can pick a wall as solid as that, but .. .

I ran one time — thinking of the adventures of Dianetics — I ran a preclear one time for — two preclears as a matter of fact — for the benefit of a couple of medicos who slithered into the scene. I was foolish in those days; I thought they were interested.

If I ask you to look at a wall there that is over on your right, I mean that wall there, see? Now, a wall runs all the way up there. Any place on that wall is legitimate and that is the wall on your right. You got it? Huh? All right.

And I put the preclears down on the couch and I was running an incident and — out of one of them and he started to writhe and look pale and he started to get sort of flushed looking, and the medico says, "What's wrong with him?"

Now, if you — this wall over here — this wall over here is the wall on your left, you got that? It's the wall on your left. Now, it's legitimate all the way to the back. You can look anywhere on that wall when I say "that wall," you got that?

And I said, "No, nothing, nothing. He's just going through an old illness." And the medico said, "He's doing what?"

Audience: Yeah.

"Well, he's running a mental image picture — a picture which is contained in his reactive mind which has the power of reimposing on the body every-thing that the body had experienced while the incident was taking place. And of course, it has in it fever and chills and perspiration and sensations. It has the various tactile of beds and tea cups or soup bowls or anything else he was doing at that time. And he feels these things and that puts the picture back in action. Or an auditor audits him and puts the picture back in action and runs it out, and of course, he reexperiences all these things all over again."

All right.

Now, they know all about reexperiencing — they have vast textbooks with people — they have known about it for years. They could make people reexperience everything. They don't know what they are talking about. The individual actually can be put right straight back through the incident — bing-bing-bing-bing-bing, just as nice as you please! They don't, you know, get the traumatic effect, "Well, I remember when I was a little boy and a puppy ran over me and this has been very, very bad because it had sexual connotations; I've never been the same since."

Now, you new people, that's all right, we haven't gone mad. There is a purpose in this. Now, I've been meaning to write a book about it or get one of you to write a book about it or something like that. There is a purpose in it. Now, you see that ... Well, anything back there — anything there at the back end of the room is quite legitimate as a wall. How's that? Huh? You got anything you pick back there. So we say the wall in the back of the room or the back of the room, why, you look back there, and you got that. Okay?

"Oh, well, Mr. Jones, we now have the most significant incident in your life. We'll spend the next four years analyzing it." Ha-ha! How careful those people were being. Maybe they instinctively felt that maybe somebody would walk in the door one day and say, "The somatic strip . . ." Because that isn't what made his life aberrated; it was pain and unconsciousness and he was still carrying the picture around with him and it was still capable and imposing all its force and ferocity upon his body, his mind and his beingness.

Audience: Yeah.

And in order to run one of those things out, it practically took one of these big jackhammers — out of some cases. You'd erase and erase. You know this idea that you recount an incident enough times — this is not necessarily new, you see — you recount something a lot of times, why, it'll worry you less. That was about as much as society knew about this sort of thing. Actually, the guy has to go back on the track to the moment; he has to progress completely through the entire experience from one end to the other; he has to come back to the beginning and reexperience the whole thing all the way through again from one end to the other. He has to go back to the beginning again and reexperience the whole thing and all of a sudden the unknown points start coming up. And it isn't contained in figure-figure-figure, think-think-think; it's contained in hurt-hurt-hurt, gag-gag-gag, bluh-blooh-bluh! Society didn't have enough nerve to find this one out; that's all it is!

All right.

I'm not exaggerating. I'm — am I, old-timers? Am I exaggerating?

Now, that there is the floor. And we say "the floor," you touch that part that's under you.

Audience: No!

Got that?

Wild business!

Now, up above, you will find a ceiling. You see a ceiling up there, huh? All right. Is it up there?

So — so anyway, an individual lying there flush, the medico says, "You know, he looks like he's getting sick. Looks like he's coming down with something." Quick! Out with the thermometer. "Do you mind if I take his temperature?" Right in the middle of an auditing session. I've got the fellow being scolded by Father while he's lying there with a temperature of 106 or something like this, you know. The doctor says, "I should take his temperature. You know I've got to stop this one way or the other." And he muscled me aside.

Audience: Yes.

I decided, well, I might as well get the preclear's temperature taken. I've never done this. I know he's got a fever. The doctor puts it in. Waited. "103! My God!" he said, "This man has got to get to bed! I can't permit this by my medical knowledge, authority and mission to the AMA to permit this session to go on any further. So, you get him up to bed."

All right. Well now, we call that the ceiling. And if any of you run too strong a postulate and knock it down, why, I don't know whether the congress is insured or not, so take it easy.

And I said, "And so, we get you over in the chair." Ptock! And I said, "Now, let's go back to the beginning of the incident again. That bother you, that monkey business?" "No! No! No! Let's go back to the incident."

Anyway ... Now, anything along that aisle, that aisle or the center or inside or — that's all legitimately the ceiling, you got that?

The doctor's friend was coming up to come to the defense of his colleague because he's obviously in the hands of madmen — and he was going to say, "You are certainly not going to do anything more, are you?"

Audience: Yes.

And I said, "I don't know about me, but you're not. You're going to sit still." And they sat there looking, because they knew a sick man was having something bad done to him.

Oh, you really got that real good.

And I finished off the engram, wiped it out, brought the preclear up to present time. Put the other one down, ran the engram and all of a sudden he looked flushed!

Now — now, do you see that pillar there?

The medico said, "Look! You realize, don't you, that you can be arrested for impersonating an angel of mercy like myself."

Audience: Yes.

"Oh," I said, "you want to take his temperature?" So, I let him take his temperature. I picked him up and put him back in the chair. Ptock! Erased it; brought him up to present time. They are both feeling pretty good, both preclears, "Ha! I feel a lot better." Measles was off the case, see. They felt a lot better. They felt pretty good about the whole thing.

Huh? Well now, that is pillar number one. You got that?

Medico sat back there, "Something wrong with these people; they look normal." He took his thermometer — 103. And he said, "George, let's go home." Well, if you could shoot somebody's temperature to 103 and bring it back to normal again in a half an hour, you are not practicing medicine, I've always contended.

Audience: Yeah, okay.

So, anyway, we slaved along. We got along well in old Dianetics. We had a lot of fun and we completely neglected this horrible thing that suddenly made an appearance in the middle of 1952. And Hubbard was fool enough to start talking about it — a thetan. He discovered a spirit — hallucinatory, of course!

Now, any angle or look at that anywhere from any viewpoint, that's still pillar one.

But a spirit had been discovered. Spirits had been discovered. Hubbard, with his usual optimism, said you could discover them in everybody.

Audience: Okay.

And so, what with a lot of legal maneuvers and other things, it really was true that we were in a different field and it was also true that Dianetics was sort of — sad but true — it was a sort of a dead issue at the moment. We were interested in spirits, following them around, wondering how many horse-power they develop, trying to measure their capacitance, resistance. We had them on E-Meters. Remember E-Meters — Volney Mathison — got so they were this big and then they were this big. And he had eighteen settings on the front of them and suddenly a little light would flash and that told you what time it was to go to lunch. We had them on oscilloscopes and bacilloscopes and everything else, trying to measure them and figure out exactly what this was all about.

I don't want to get any semantic mess-up here. I don't want some of you preclears getting up and telling me that that isn't really pillar number one because it isn't a pillar but a column. We don't care about that. We'll call it pillar number one and that's that, see.

A fellow out in California one night showed up — I was in Phoenix, had a house out in the desert. It's all been built up since but it was a nice house then — coyotes mourned quietly every night. I like coyotes mourning every night, they sort of add to the — you know, the scene. They add to the flavor of things when you're researching spirits. And the boy came at about — come to think about it, there had been a little congress over there, a little meeting and he came and he sat down — well, he knocked on the door and he said, "Ron," he said, "I've got something hot and I want to see you."

This over here, we call pillar number two. You see it there?

Now, I've heard this before. I hear this regularly. And I never say, "No, don't tell me." I — yeah, I will say factually, "We've had that for a little while," or I will say, "That is darned interesting, I will look into it." You know, it's a communication line; I really am there — I mean — solidly hit me. I mean, when you write me a letter it does arrive here. I might not answer it at any length, but I normally get a reply back one way or the other.

Audience: Yeah.

And I said — however, that night since we just had a big meeting and I was tired, I said, "No." And Evans knocks again. I say, "No, Evans." I say, "Go away, please. I am tired and exhausted."

Look at it. You see it there? All right.

He goes out and he lies down in the front yard on the couch — couple of sun couches out there, sitting in the middle of the desert. He lies down. Moon — sun goes down — moon comes up; he's still there. Somebody stuck his head out and said, "Evans, why don't you go home. Ron isn't going to see you."

Now, back here we have pillar number four.

And he said, "I've got to see him. I've got to see him."

Audience: Four? Three?

So, finally after the TV programs were all over and I had wakened, I happened to be passing by the window and I looked out in the front yard, in the bright moonlight, and here was Evans Farber still lying there looking up at the moon philosophically. And I said, "Why, that boy will catch his death of moonbeams or something. I'd better go out."

No, that's four. Oh, you mean I woke you guys up. And that is number three. Got that real good?

So I said, "Evans," I said, "this is cruel of you. I have just been up about 48, 80 hours or something and why can't you see me about this some other time?" And he said, "It's important, Ron, it really is." He says, "I can exteriorize thetans at will that you've been talking about." We'd been looking for a process that would; we knew it theoretically; we'd run into the phenomenon; we'd tried to do something with it. Not very much had occurred and he turns up and he says he can exteriorize them by an auditing command. Well, I said, "Evans, that's — that's interesting, but ..."

Audience: Yeah.

He had some kind of a theory behind it and quoted it out of Scientology 8-80 and told me exactly how it worked — that something or other happened, or there was a little preadvance release of the material. And he had read it over and he said, "All you have to say to them is 'Try not to be three feet back of your head.' "

All right.

I said, "Is that so?"

Now these — one, two, three, four. We will simply substitute if anybody happens to be running this as a pat, set process with no variation of command, we will simply use one, two, three, four as the corners of the room vertically, you see. But we'll use one, two, three and four. You got them now? One, two, three, four. Got it? Got it real good?

And he said, "Yeah, look," he says, he puts me down in the chair and he steps back and he says, "try not to be three feet back of your head." And I go sphewwww! And I haven't been able to get back in since.

Audience: Yeah.

So, a few months later we were all ghosts! That technique is not advised since it has a tendency to wear out and thetans flip back in and all sorts of things happen, but it was the first direct exteriorization technique. A little later on we found out you could get about 50 percent of the people you walk up to in the street and you just look at them, get their attention, you know, "Be three feet back of your head." And they go sphewwww! "Well, what do you know! What was I doing in there!" You know, that kind of a reaction. Very amazing.

And you do have a front of the room?

Here's a phenomenon that existed, that was right there waiting to be discovered for a very, very long time, nothing known about it. Real — talked about — I mean, old-time religion talked about a soul and a spirit and how you had to be good and you would do this and that. They talked about all the various odds and ends about it, but nobody gave its dimensions, capacitance, inductance and resistance. You got the idea? In other words, we didn't have an accurate scientific description so that no phenomena could be produced really as a result of the knowledge that man was a spirit. So, people could doubt it, people could say, "Well, man isn't a spirit — and man is and man isn't."

Audience: Yes.

Well, this is all ancient history to a lot of you. It's all ancient history. It's interesting though, but the germ of the destruction of Dianetics was a thetan: launched, theorized, calculated and everything else. The first one launched — Mark 1-type carrier — in Phoenix, Arizona, by — or no, in Los Angeles, really, earlier by Evans Farber in 1952 — launched. We have been launching them ever since from time to time.

All right. Now, is there anything there resembling — now I want you to take very good care with it. Do you have a chair?

As a matter of fact, now it's very difficult to keep from launching some-body. If we are very careful and break all the rules, we can keep somebody in his head, but otherwise it's pretty difficult. He has to be really poorly audited.

Audience: Yes.

But we advanced the field of the mind — and my discoveries that succeeded that and the other material which followed it — well we also advanced, entered and to a very marked degree described and resolved the sphere of religion. Man had only had that name for it previously and we were in the interesting position of not being religious and being in the possession of all the materials that religion ought to have, which is a very bad position to be in.

All right. Let's find out. Find out if you got a chair. It is really there?

If you know that being holy has nothing to do with being Clear, it's a very hard thing for you to understand why you should be holy — a lot of complexities of this character.

Audience: Yes.

In other words, the different oddities, materials, the conflicts — we'd launched information man was not in possession of and that information was very difficult to communicate. To some degree we went out of communication — maybe it was a good thing.

All right. All right.

The years went along. We developed more material. We got more certain. We know today an awful lot of things — an awful lot of things about this subject. We have the most — probably the only complete records of a complete research on anything, probably, just regardless of what, that has ever been undertaken. We've got our complete records. We have gone all the way along the line. We followed along carefully with books and tapes and other equipment, other recordings of the work that's been done — very voluminous material.

Now, the process we are going to run, unless you object to it too much — unless you object to it too much, the process we are going to run — I don't know — just at the last moment — I do have a conscience after all — and just at the last moment here a little qualm just strikes me so I'll throw in a communication bridge right at the beginning of this, huh? And I'm going to ask you if it's all right if we run this.

All of the material's gone on in London and work's gone on. I've been in London and Camden and Phoenix and London and it's — Washington in between — more and more and more information, more and more information, more and more information, more and more information. Well, you finally get so you know enough about this. You do! I mean, you finally get so you know enough about it. Say, "The devil with it." That is probably why they invented hell. They got tired of the whole thing about the human soul, you know, and they invented hell just to have someplace where they could threaten to send it if they got tired of playing with it.

Hey, seminar leaders, is it all right if I do run that first process we ran on the kids the other night? Do you think that'd be all right? Can you guys take it? Got ambulances standing by out there? All right. Okay. They got them. All right.

And what do you know! What do you know. Just a very short time ago, a very short time ago, found myself walking along minding my own business and all of a sudden I said, "The unit of awareness of the mind is looking at a facsimile, a mental image picture, and usually looks at it in preference to looking at the physical universe directly. The basic game of a spirit is: him-self not capable really of being solid — to then put up solids to look at because they can't be unsolid and he can't be solid, so there isn't any complete communication possible. So we have a basic game going on and it must be that the thetan who had gone down scale can't tolerate solids."

Now, would it be all right with you if we put into the wall a craving to know, so that it craves to know?

And I went back home and sat down at a desk to make a couple of research notes. I said, "Well — " you know I was writing along, a couple of research notes — "the one solid that he does not care to make solid anymore would be a mental image picture containing pain, unconsciousness and loss by exteriorization. Oh no, we're back in Dianetics!" And so we are.

Audience: Yeah.

Actually, just in the last few weeks I managed to bring pretty close to a level of perfection, methods of handling the reactive mind: to handle all of the reactive mind, to ungroup the track and put the whole thing back together again — paying no attention to phrases, just by using solids in particular ways — stretch the track out, pat it in place and achieve greater results than we have ever achieved before in Dianetics and working with bodies, and quite incidentally working with the mind and the physical universe and the principles involved with solids. There's several sets of principles which we probably won't even go into this congress. But these principles lead us back to the fact that we have to know Dianetics. If we hadn't known Dianetics, we never would have discovered the rest of it. And having discovered the rest of it; we find ourselves totally, totally beaten, pounded, hammered, herded, corralled, nailed down into running Dianetics again.

Would that be all right? Oh, you won't be so glib in a moment.

So the "Spiritual and Material Requirements of Man," which is the title of this lecture, include first and foremost a good grip of Dianetics. And if you were able to handle Dianetics once upon a time, you will say, "Gee-whiz, why didn't we know how fast we could make a bank run!" We used to scan them, and we used to do this, and we used to do that.

Now, you understand that I want you to put into the wall or item named, a craving to know? Okay?

Now, I'll give some of you old-timers — I'm not going to leave you in mystery on the subject. You just pick an arbitrary point in the middle of the preclear's age and you have him find an incident which is later than that time and have him look at it. And when you decide that it's not another engram — you see, you don't run the engram, you just pick an arbitrary point, an engram or not in the middle of the person's life — and you tell him to get a picture later than that moment. And when you discover that that picture is not a mental image picture that contains pain, you tell him, see, "Okay." You say, "Make it more solid," so he .. .

Audience: Yeah.

You say, "That's fine. That's fine. Now, can you find one earlier than this incident" — old engram, old tonsillectomy, automobile accident or something or just an arbitrary age in the middle of life and you say, "What is it?" And you discover as the auditor that he isn't really looking at something that contains physical pain. Because if you let him make it solid while it contained physical pain, why, you'd get the pain and you'd have to handle that engram and you'd be handling another part of the track, you see. And you say, "All right, make it more solid — just the picture."

So that it craves to know. About what, we don't care. It craves to know.

So the fellow . . . "Yes. Yes. Yes. It's more solid."

Audience: Okay.

And you say, "That's fine. Now, find an incident later than the arbitrary incident of(age)." Determine what it is. Don't let him get out of control, you see, because he's liable to start making it solid the second he finds it and you don't let him do that because you'll just stick him. And you say, "What is it?"

And you put it in there.

And, "Oh," he says, "it's my mother throwing chickpeas to the chickens," or something like that.

Audience: Yeah. Is that agreed? Audience: Yeah.

And you say, "That's fine. That's fine. Make it more solid."

Well some of you haven't agreed to that yet. Everybody agreed to that?

He does. And you go earlier and make it more solid. And he does. And you go later and make it more solid. You go earlier and make it more solid and you go — and earlier and later and earlier. And all of a sudden service facsimile and the rest of the material he — you've been looking for in this case for a long time — life computation and all that sort of thing — he suddenly gives it to you — nothing much to it. And then you — earlier and solid, and earlier and solid and all of a sudden, "Well," he says, "I'm — got a picture here of me lying here dead."

Audience: Yes.

"Earlier — " you say, "well, can't you get one a little earlier than that?"

All right. Now, it doesn't matter how you do it. By postulate, by just saying so, by putting a — however you want to do it. Do you understand?

"Oh, yes, got one of me here at a ball, looking at a — at the queen."

Audience: Yeah.

And you say, "That's fine. Make it more solid. That's good. Now, go later. Later. All right. Can you get one later than the arbitrary age — middle of life time?" Never change that age, by the way, never change it. He comes up with another juicy incident, just let him have it. And make it more solid. Earlier, make it more solid. Later, make it more solid. Earlier, make it more solid. Later, make it more solid. Ten thousand years ago, fifteen thousand years ago. Twenty thousand years ago.

Well, all right.

"Oh, you've got a — somebody is standing there ready to clout you with a stone ax. Oh. Well, can't you get an earlier one than that?"

The wall on your right, into the wall on the right, put a craving to know.

"Yes, I can. I've got this woman, dragging her by the hair over the rocks." "Good!" You say, "Make it more solid."

Audience: Yeah.

Well, that's the way you run it; that's the way you run it and that's what Dianetics has come down to. The most effective single process that we know today, a very workable one; and during the break maybe you'd like to try it on your friends.

Got it real good?

So, here we are — we find ourselves back in Dianetics because we're in Scientology. So, we'll just have to get ambivalent and put up with it all. I just wanted to start this congress out with something that you could talk about, because we haven't got much time to really go into these little details like having completely solved Dianetics.

Audience: Yeah.

I'm awfully glad you're here. We are going to take a short break and then I'm going to come back and it says I have to talk about children. And maybe I will and maybe I won't. Who knows? There might be — even be some-thing to say about them. I'll try to find my notes in the interim! But if I can't I'll have to do something else.

All right. You got it in there?

So, I will see you in about fifteen minutes.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine.

Now, into the wall on your left, put a craving to know.

Audience: Yeah.

Real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Let's do a thorough job of it. All right.

Now, into the front of the room, put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You do that?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, into the back of the room, into the wall at the back of the room, put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

I did it.

Let's really do that. Did you do that well?

Audience: Yeah.

You did that real good, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Well, that's fine.

Now, into the floor put a craving to know, so it craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that real good, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, you see a ceiling up there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Into the ceiling put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that?

Audience: Yes.

There's a couple of people not doing this! Have you got the ambulances standing by? Okay. Fire and rescue squad too!

All right. Now, how did that go?

Audience: Fine.

Now, let's see if you can do it a little bit better and this time, get that wall really craving to know. Craving to know. Get the idea? Rrrowww. Right over there. Right-hand wall, make it craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did you make it?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. All right. All right. All right.

Now, in the left-hand wall put into it a craving to know.

Audience: Okay. All right.

Now, into the front of the room put a craving to know. You put it into the front of the room.

Audience: Okay.

Easy, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Like a breeze.

Audience: Uh-huh.

Good. Good. That's fine. All right.

Now, into the back of the room, put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did you make it?

Audience: Yeah.

Did you really make it?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Now, into the floor put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Is it craving to know?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Let me ask you factually right this moment, is that floor craving to know?

Audience: Yes.

All right. If there's any doubt about it in your mind, make it crave to know. You do it. You make that floor crave to know. Once more.

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine.

Now, let's look up at the ceiling. Now, let's put into the ceiling, craving to know. It really craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

Real good, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. You got it in that real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Okay. Now, how do you feel?

Audience: Fine.

Anybody feel horrible?

Audience: No.

Everybody feels okay, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. This time we're going to refrain carefully from putting any effort into this.

Male voice: Okay.

Okay. Is that all right with you?

Audience: Yeah.

Now, we're just going to put it in with the lightest possible thing and with avoidance of effort. We're not going to use any effort or strength. We're just going to put it in there lightly, you understand. But really put it into the wall.

Female voice: Yeah.

Got it? All right.

Into the wall on the right put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Okay? Did you do that — nice?

Audience: Yeah.

Good.

Now, remember, avoid effort in this. Avoid it. All right.

Now, into the wall on the left put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Real, real lightly, huh? Delicately.

Now, into the front of the room put a craving to know, avoiding effort — craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. Good.

Now, into the back of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right. How are you doing?

Audience: Fine.

Still doing all right, huh? Still alive and everything?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, into the floor put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Okay. You do that real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Now, into the floor put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right.

Now, look at the ceiling and into the ceiling put a craving to know.

Audience: All right. Okay.

How's that, huh?

Audience: Fine.

Are you doing real good now?

Audience: Yeah.

Doing better?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Now, you understand, I want you to avoid effort. I don't want you to use crunch effort, you see, in this. I want you to do it lightly, carefully avoiding using any effort, you understand?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Now, into the wall on the right — and I mean into it — you put, as a sin or an overt act or anything you care, a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did you get that good?

Audience: Okay, yeah.

All right.

Now, into the wall on the left put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You really got that wall so it craves to know?

Audience: Yes.

Are you convinced that wall craves to know?

Audience: Yes.

It really craved to know?

Audience: Yes.

Well, you'll get better at it. You'll get better at it, don't worry about that. Now, into the front of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that?

Audience: All right.

You got a craving to know into the front of the room?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Now, into the back of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that real good?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Do you believe the back of the room craves to know?

Audience: Yes. All right.

Now, into the floor — you still got a floor there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Well, into the floor put — you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine.

Now, look at the ceiling.

Audience: Okay.

Have you got a ceiling there?

Audience: Yeah.

Now, into the ceiling put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that?

Audience: That's fine.

Okay.

Well, how you making out? Huh?

Audience: All right.

Nobody's felt anything here?

Audience: No. Yeah.

Oh, somebody has? Well, that's good. He's probably doing the process and the rest of you are goofing.

Now listen, you make sure now that that wall on your right craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

Make sure of it. Good. Make sure of it. It craves to know. We don't care what but it really craves to know. How's that?

Audience: All right.

Got it now?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, into the wall over here on your left put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right. That's fine.

Now, can you — you really — you really getting it in there?

Audience: Yeah.

Some of you people are a little less fast here on it?

Audience: Yeah.

A little more conscientious. Can you really get it in there?

Audience: Yeah.

Get it in there good?

Audience: Yes.

Could you guarantee that it craves to know?

Audience: Yeah.

Really craves to know?

Audience: Yes.

And that you made it crave to know?

Audience: Yeah.

You got that? Got that? You made it crave to know. It really craves to know, huh? All right. That's fine. That's fine.

I'm glad you're satisfied with that one because I'm getting a little more satisfied with you.

Now, get the front of the room here craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Front of the room craving to know. It really wants to, huh?

Audience: Yes.

It really wants to know. Any of you people who've been instructing students get restimulated on this?

Now, into the back of the room — into the back of the room let's put craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

That's easy, huh? That's real easy? Huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Is there anybody not satisfied yet that — anybody who feels that he has not yet put a craving to know into any of these walls? Anybody who feels he hasn't done it? It's perfectly all right for you to volunteer, I won't do anything to you.

Male voice: No.

You don't feel you've done it yet?

Male voice: No. All right.

Male voice: But I want the auditing.

All right. Now, you really don't feel you've done it yet, real good, huh? Well, I'll tell you what you do this next time as we go around — I'll tell you exactly what you do. Just do the best you can to the wall on your right to put a craving to know into it. You try to put it into it. Do your best to get a craving to know so that that wall craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that now? A little better?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? All right. Good. Good. That's fine.

Now, this wall over here — this wall over here on your left, let's get a craving to know into it.

Audience: Okay.

All right.

You getting better at it?

Audience: Yeah.

Is anybody getting worse at it?

Audience: No.

Getting better at it? Just a little bit better?

Audience: Yeah.

A little bit?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's good.

Now, see this front of the room up here, these walls and things up here? All right. Now, you put a craving to know into it.

Audience: Okay.

Got it? You get — really getting a little better at it?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, let's take a look at the back of the room. Got it there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, you put into the back of the room a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You really getting it into the back of the room there?

Audience: Yeah.

Does it crave to know?

Audience: Yes.

All right. That's fine. You're getting just a — I don't care how much better, but just a tiny bit, huh? All right. Good.

Now, the floor. Let's put a craving to know in the floor. It really craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. That's fine.

Now, let's take a look at the ceiling. Now, let's put a craving to know in the ceiling.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. Good. Really got one in there that time?

Audience: Yeah.

Really got a craving to know in there?

Audience: Yeah.

It really wants to know now?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's good. That's very, very good.

Now, are we doing better?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? We going about the right speed now?

Audience: Yes.

Going too fast for anybody?

Audience: No.

Going too slow for anybody? Yes?

Audience: No.

All right. All right. Does anybody feel bad? Sick? Funny? Somebody back there? Well, if you do — if you do, for heaven's sakes at this time, this is not the time to stop. Now, just keep doing it and you'll feel better. All right.

That wall over there on your right, now put into it, you put into it a craving to know. Hear the auditing command: You put into it a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Better?

Audience: Yeah.

Yeah? All right. Good.

Now, the wall over here on your left, you put into it a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that?

Audience: Yes.

Got that pretty good, huh?

Audience: Yes.

All right. All right.

Does that wall crave to know better this time than it did before?

Audience: Yes.

You coming up a little bit? Who's still restraining himself so that he won't get sick? I guarantee if you feel sick at your stomach, if you do the process, you'll get over it in just a very few minutes. All right.

Now, let's take a look at the front of the room. Put it in me if you want to, I don't care. You can get short-circuited just as easy as the next one.

Put a craving to know into the front of the room.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, are you getting just a little better at it? Huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Is it getting more real?

Audience: Yeah.

You know, actually this is asking a heck of a lot of you just because of the distance you are to the walls. You'll find that's a little strain but you're overcoming that even, I'm sure. Remember there's something solid at the other end. All right.

Let's take a look at that back wall. And let's put into that wall now a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it? Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Well, that's real good.

Now, you got a floor there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, let's put into that floor a craving to know. Make sure that floor craves to know.

Audience: Okay.

Let's do it again just for good measure because you know it's right up close there. I mean, it's easy to do that one. So let's do it again. Let's get it really craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Easier to do when it's the floor?

Audience: No.

No? Oh, you mean you guys are getting sharp, huh? Well, all right. Well, all right.

Look at the ceiling.

Audience: Okay.

Got the ceiling there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, let's put — into the ceiling a craving to know.

Audience: Okay, okay, all right.

Good. Is it really craving?

Male voice: Yeah.

Has it just got to?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. All right. Let's do that again with the ceiling. Only this time, let's carefully avoid doing it with any effort.

Audience: Okay. All right.

Got that? Do it lightly.

Male voice: Yes.

Did you get away with it better the second time?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. All right. That's fine. That's fine. There we went round and round. And how are we doing now? We finding this easier to do?

Audience: Yes.

Huh? Finding this much easier to do?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Some of you are wondering why I am running this process. I am running this process because it's the top process of "think."

Let's look at that wall over there on your right and you put into it a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

You got that real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Okay. Now, just for good measure let's put it into that wall again.

Audience: Okay.

How's that, huh?

Audience: Fine.

Fine.

All right. Good. Good. You did it?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Good.

Now, let's look at this wall over here on your left. Now, we're gonna do this one twice, too. So, put craving to know in that wall.

Audience: Okay.

You get it craving to know. All right. You do that?

Audience: Yeah.

Well, all right. Let's do it again. Now, you put into that wall on the left a craving to know. It really craves to know.

Audience: Okay. Got that?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine. That's fine.

Now, into the front of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How about you people in the back? You making it okay?

Audience: Yeah.

Remember, seminar leaders have a license to kick you, if you're not doing the process. All right. You get that real good?

Audience: Yeah. All right.

Let's do it once more. Into the front of the room let's put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Making a good job of it now?

Audience: Yeah.

Did you get it really craving to know?

Audience: Yes.

Huh? Got that real good?

Audience: Uh-huh.

All right. That's very, very good.

Now, let's look at the back of the room. Now, into the back of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay. All right.

Got that?

Audience: Yeah.

Got that real good, huh? Once more into the back of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine. That's fine. All right.

Now, once more, you got a floor there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, you put into that floor a craving to know.

Audience: Okay. All right.

All right. You got that?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? Very, very good. You got that real good?

Audience: Uh-huh.

Now, once more into the floor put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You're good at this, huh? Getting better at this?

Audience: Yeah.

Is anybody getting worse at it?

Audience: No.

Well, let's once more into the floor put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did it really crave to know?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine.

Now, let's look at the ceiling.

Audience: Okay.

Now, into the ceiling put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that?

Audience: Fine.

Making out better?

Male voice: Sure.

All right.

Let's look at the ceiling again and put into it a craving to know. Now, let's get that — you get that ceiling craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right. How's that?

Audience: Fine.

Well, it's getting better now. How are you making out — really a lot better?

All right. That's fine.

Now, we've been around once more and have we had any casualties? Does any person still feel ill while they're doing this? Huh?

Audience: No.

Well, have you stopped doing it because you feel ill?

Audience: No.

You still doing it? Is the illness getting better or worse?

Male voice: It's getting harder to do it.

That's the boy. That's good, we're coming right up on it. This is good. Don't worry. Don't worry. You're in good hands.

All right. Into the wall on your right, you put a craving to know and make sure that you do it — that's why it's getting harder — you do it. You put a craving to know into the walls.

Audience: Okay.

That's right, isn't it? Was that good?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, into that wall on your right again, you put once more a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You got that?

Audience: Yes.

Getting much smoother now, isn't it? Huh?

Female voice: Yeah.

All right.

Now, this wall on your left — now you put into it a craving to know.

Audience: Okay. All right.

All right.

You did that well, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's good.

Once more into the wall on your left put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You got that real good, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Good. Good. How you doing?

Audience: Fine.

Doing better?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, into the front of the room put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Doing that real good?

Audience: Yes.

Doing it better?

Audience: Yes.

Are you doing it?

Audience: Yes.

Are you doing it to the wall?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Just check these things and again into the front of the room, put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right. All right. Is that more satisfactory?

Female voice: Yes.

Okay. All right.

You see the back of the room? Now, you put into the back of the room a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got that real good?

Audience: Yes.

Oh, you're getting better at it, huh? All right. Once more, let's look at the back of the room and put a craving to know into it.

Audience: Okay.

You get it craving to know. That's good. Do it?

Audience: Okay.

Do it real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Well, that's fine.

How about — how about these sick tummies? They getting better? Does anybody feel sicker than he did?

Male voice: Yeah.

We got a couple that feel sicker, huh?

Male voice: Right.

Ah! This time — this time why, you really make sure you put it into the walls. Now, you put it into walls and it's all right. It'll go away.

Into that floor — into that floor right now, particularly you people who are sick, let's put a craving to know. Really craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did it really crave to know?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. All right.

Now, once more — once more you put into the floor a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Did that real well?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

And into the ceiling — look at the ceiling — and into the ceiling I want you to put a craving to know.

Audience: All right.

Okay.

Get that ceiling really craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

All right.

Now, once more into the ceiling let's put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Now, how's that?

Audience: Fine.

Hm? Okay, well that isn't too bad, huh?

Audience: No.

Not too bad?

Audience: No.

Well, all right.

Now, how about — how about these people that were feeling a little bit sick over this? You feeling sicker still?

Male voice: Same.

About the same? Well don't — don't — don't renege from doing it. You do it a few more times and you'll be all right.

Now, listen — listen. This time around please — please! I don't ask you to do anything for me very often. But this time, please — please get the wall craving to know so that it is in a psychotic fit. All right.

And into the wall on your right put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Okay. Now, let's check it to see — make sure it's in a psychotic fit.

Audience: No.

Well let's — let's try it again. Into that wall on your right you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Is it in a fit?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's very, very good. That's very good. You're doing real well. And into the wall over here on your left you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Got it real good?

Audience: Yeah.

Now is it in a fit?

Audience: Yeah.

Does it really crave to know?

Audience: Yes.

Real good? Huh? How's that? All right.

Now, once more into that wall put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

This time did you do it well enough so that you felt we oughta send for the wagon? Okay. Did you do it well enough so that we should've sent for the wagon to take the wall away and pad it up? Huh? All right. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Now, into the front of the room, I want you to put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that, huh?

Audience: That's fine.

Got that real good?

Audience: Yes.

Is it in a fit?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Once more, then, into the front of the room you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? Well, let's check it now and let's make sure it's in a fit.

Audience: Yeah.

Really craves?

Audience: Yeah.

Commit suicide and everything else if it doesn't find out.

Audience: Yeah.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? All right.

Now, once more into the front of the room you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that, huh?

Audience: Fine.

How's that?

Audience: Fine.

All right. That's just fine, that's just fine. Is it in a fit?

Audience: Yes.

All right. That's good.

Now, into the back of the room — the back of the room — the back of the room — into the back of the room, you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

How's that?

Audience: Fine.

Good, good.

And once more into the back of the room, you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Is it in a fit?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's good.

Now, into the floor — into the floor you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Good. You did that?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine.

And once more into the floor, you put a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

Everybody now, you put a craving to know into that floor.

Audience: Okay.

No dogging off on me. I'll get three feet back of your head and part your hair. Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Did you do that?

Audience: Yeah.

You getting much better at it?

Audience: Yes.

Well, all right.

Now, let's look at the ceiling and you put into the ceiling a craving to know.

Audience: Okay.

You're real good at that, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Does it crave to know better than it did when we began?

Audience: Yes.

Very much so?

Audience: Yeah.

You can do this stuff much better?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Now, you put again into the ceiling a craving to know.

Audience: All right.

Okay.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Now, did you — you did this much better this last time than you did, let's say, halfway through.

Audience: Yes.

You did?

Audience: Yeah.

Now, what do you — what do you feel now?

Male voice: Boredom.

Is anybody still upset?

Female voice: No.

Somebody bored with it now?

Male voice: Yes.

What are you doing having an emotion? I told you to make the wall have an emotion. The idea of having an emotion!

Well, we'll just have to pick this up later. I'll tell you why, because I want to know if you got a floor.

Audience: Yeah!

I want to know if you've got a chair.

Audience: Yeah.

Got a floor?

Audience: Yeah.

Got a chair?

Audience: Yeah.

Got someone on your right?

Audience: Yeah.

Somebody on the left?

Audience: Yeah.

You got somebody in the audience?

Audience: Yeah.

Got anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Is there anybody in the audience?

Audience: Yes.

Let's be sure of that.

Audience: Okay.

Thank you. All right.

Now, is there anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody in the audience?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody in the audience?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody in the audience?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody in the audience?

Audience: Yes.

Good.

Is there anybody on the stage?

Audience: Yes.

You mean I'm here?

Audience: Yes.

Hey! What do you know! All right. Okay. Now, you got a floor?

Audience: Yes.

You have?

Audience: Yes.

You got a chair?

Audience: Yes.

You got a floor?

Audience: Yes.

You got a chair?

Audience: Yes.

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Well, I thought you could get up so that I could hear you. All right. All right.

It's a big mystery actually if you want to know why I ran that process on you. But I merely wanted to say goodbye to all the thinkingness processes we have ever done. Because that's the top and most effective button of them, so I just thought I would run it on you and you could see how an old-time process looked.

Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

So we ran that one just so we could say goodbye to it. You got it? Well, you think the congress has started now?

Audience: Yes!

All right.

Let's take a twenty-minute break.

Audience: Okay.