ТОН 40 НА ЧЕЛОВЕКЕ | |
TONE 40 ON A PERSON | |
| Спасибо. | |
Хорошо. Теперь, мы рассмотрим «Тон 40 на человеке», прямо здесь и сейчас. | & Hurry up, hurry up, come on now. I have a couple of announcements to make, two announcements, one of them, I'm getting on with the show and everything's going along fine and all of a sudden somebody rushes up, puts slips of paper in my hand and says, „Announce this,“ you know, so I, so I'll announce this. Party, tickets are available from Mae Garrenger, who is up on the upper side up there at the back, and I think there's been some reduction in price, I'm not sure what it is. More important, on individual intensives, twenty-five hour intensives, all persons at the congress who are properly registered at the congress, may have individual auditing at the HGC here in Washington at professional rates, which is to say two hundred and fifty dollars for an intensive, immediately following the congress. I did that because I thought some of you might like a taste of this CCH and so forth, close up. Made it possible to do so. |
«Тон 40 на человеке» не следует путать с «8-К в Тоне 40», потому что «Тон 40 на человеке» - это упражнение. Это тренировочное упражнение; это не процесс. | & Now, more germane to the situation, we will have a report on the validation committee tomorrow afternoon. They more or less have got their findings together now, but I will have them officially by tomorrow afternoon, then we'll know something about what we're doing about the validation program. But according to my first word on this, they have not covered a validation available at the academy. I suppose they felt diffident about covering this and so after a hurried consultation on this, we have decided that two weeks of validation are available, and we have before the congress been charging something like seventy-five dollars a week for the coaching and so forth. That's more or less just to cover its cost and certification and so forth. That's a validation on an old certificate is what we're talking about, and if someone cared to stay for a couple of weeks why we would give him a crack at it. |
Кстати, не путайте тренировочные упражнения с процессами. Трениро вочные упражнения - это тренировочные упражнения, а процессы - это процессы. И они являются таковыми, потому что они работают неодина ково; у них различные основы. Существует ряд причин, почему это так. | & Now, that doesn't guarantee validation at the end of those two weeks, but it is the way we have been doing it. Now the fastest anybody has made it to date, and these were sharpies who have been with it for a long while anyway, is forty hours, forty hours of hard work to get through this. And these people were pretty well in the know already. So you see there is a possibility that it could be made in a couple of weeks because there'd theoretically be eighty or ninety hours of instruction possible in that period of time. So that is a local arrangement which was going forward which Nibs and John Fudge had been carrying on with before the congress, and if view of the fact the validation committee has not covered this particular ground, that arrangement I guess has just continued and I can announce, and make it official, that it is continued in case you want some of this coaching immediately after the congress. |
Конечно, вы могли бы считать тренировочное упражнение процессом. Любой, кто является тренером в одном из этих тренировочных упражнений, действительно выносит из этого определённую пользу для себя, это уж точно. Он получает шанс делать всевозможные вещи, которые он обычно не стал бы делать. Но это не цель, это не является здесь целью. | & Of course the ACC starts at once after the congress and that is mainly devoted to that sort of thing. Of course what we're trying to make in the ACC are people who can instruct and bring up to validation level all auditor certificates throughout the United States. And we're trying to make validation instructors there in the ACC rather than to validate certificates. That would be rather uniform that an ACC attendee would get his certificate validated, that isn't what we're trying for. Now that's as far as they progressed as far as I know, and I get the rest of the information concerning field certificates, validation of, tomorrow afternoon. Now these are just announcements that have been shoved at me and I have a feeling, I have a feeling that you didn't expect entirely a lecture last time, that you would have rather seen a demonstration, however I had a few things to get off my mind and indulged myself by doing so, I hope you forgive me. |
Для одитора это, на самом деле, не процессинг. Это просто требование прорваться, сразу же, - не заниматься «не-есть-ностью» и искажением «как-есть» в отношении чего бы то ни было, а просто взять и прорваться, и взобраться прямо на вершину и всё - давай! И это ответ на то, что я говорил в Вичите несколько лет назад. Я говорил: «Не существует причины, по которой парень не может просто сказать: "Я - клир" - и быть им». Понимаете? Не существует причины. Существует просто банк. | Thank you. |
Но, теоретически, существует возможность того, что парень может просто принять такую позицию, понимаете, сразу же подняться. И действи тельно, тренировочное упражнение позволяет вам сделать это. Это тайна, которая стоит за тренировочными упражнениями. Ему просто говорят: «Давай, сейчас же. Сделай это!» И парень - ляп, ляп, ляп, пиу! «Сделай это!» «Хорошо». Он становится обескураженным, и тот факт, что он обескура жен своим банком, игнорируется. | Okay. Now, we're going to cover Tone 40 on a Person, right here and now. Tone 40 on a Person should not be confused with Tone 40 8-C. Because Tone 40 on a Person is a drill. It is a Training Drill; it is not a process. |
Это два совершенно разных маршрута. Тренировочные упражнения дают человеку понять, что он может достичь успеха несмотря на свой банк. | Don't confuse Training Drills with processes, by the way. Training Drills are Training Drills and processes are processes. And they are that because they don't work the same way; they're not on the same basis. There's a number of reasons why. |
А одитинг обращается непосредственно к проблеме банка и улаживает её. Они также не являются заменой один другому. Это весьма примечательно. | Of course, you could consider a Training Drill a process. Anybody who is coach in one of these Training Drills does get some benefit out of it, for sure. He gets a chance to do all sorts of things that he ordinarily wouldn't. But that is not the purpose - that is not the purpose of it. |
Далее, «Тон 40 на человеке» на первый взгляд выглядит точно так же, как упражнение «Обучение повышенного уровня», которое мы выполняли сегодня днём. Вот как это выглядит на первый взгляд. Но позвольте мне вас уверить, что между ними нет никакой связи помимо того, что два человека ходят и один из них даёт команды другому. | For the auditor it's really not processing. It is simply a demand that he break through at once - not not-is and not alter-is anything - but just break straight through and ride right straight up on top and that's that, come on. And it has the answer to something I said in Wichita a number of years ago. I said, „There's no reason why a fellow just can't say, 'I'm Clear,' and be so.“ See? There is no reason. There's just a bank. |
Значительное различие здесь в том, что это упражнение выполняется с абсолютным намерением при подаче команды и при подтверждении. И на самом деле, тренировать это намного труднее. Это не становится сразу же невыполнимым. Но вы берёте кого-то, кто умеет делать это очень хорошо, и ставите его тренером, и пусть он старается выкидывать номера и делать что-то причудливое, и не успеете вы и глазом моргнуть, как тренер попадет в сессию. Это одна из наиболее потрясающих вещей, которую вы будете наблюдать здесь. Совершенно неожиданно вы увидите тренера, вы скажете: «Ну что ж, здесь нет ничего смешного, парень просто делает 8-К». Поверьте мне, тренер пытался! Понимаете, он пытался бунтовать. Но хороший «Тон 40 на человеке» в действительности сдерживает мятеж со страшной силой. | But there's a theoretical possibility that a fellow can simply assume this point, you know, and go straight up. And actually a Training Drill permits you to do that. That is the mystery behind the Training Drill. They just say, „Go on, now. Do it!“ And the fellow - flub, flub, flub, pshew! „Do it!“ |
Далее, команды одитинга точно такие же, как и в «Обучении повышен ного уровня», и в 8-К. Команды одитинга точно такие же; разницы никакой. За исключением того, что существует намерение и вот такое маленькое различие: для одитора любой спуск вниз с Тона 40 в сессии - это фланк. Что означает слишком сильное давление на преклира, слишком сильный захват, слишком сильный толчок - всё это фланк. Слишком сильный захват запястья руки, которая прикасается к стене - это фланк. Отход от Тона 40 при подаче команды одитинга - плохое намерение - это фланк. Становится сложно, не так ли? | „Okay.“ |
Далее, вы наблюдали это здесь от начала и до конца, начиная с тренировочного процесса 0, и вы прошли через множество этих упражнений более низкого уровня, и каждый раз мы используем последний шаг, объединяя его с новым, так? И теперь мы достигли такого уровня, где лёгкая улыбка, всего лишь проблеск того, что одитор имеет представление о том, что преклир что-то сказал, - это фланк. Понятно? Вы видели некоторых из этих людей сегодня; он как бы улыбается на мгновение преклиру-тренеру, понимаете. Одитор как бы говорит: «Это была хорошая попытка», понимаете, или как бы слегка кивает тренеру, когда тот говорит, что-то типа этого. Всё это фланки при выполнении «Тона 40 на человеке». | Lets him get kicked in the teeth and ignores the fact that he is being kicked in the teeth by his bank. |
Должен быть Тон 40 полностью. И это означает: в точности та величина усилия, которая необходима, в точности та величина намерения, которая необходима, и полное выполнение процесса, безошибочное от начала и до конца. В противном случае это фланк. Так вот, это «Тон 40 на человеке». И это не так просто. | They are two distinctly different routes. Training Drills tell a person that he can succeed in spite of his bank. And auditing immediately addresses a problem of the bank and squares it up. They are not substitutes for each other either. It's quite remarkable. |
Теперь я собираюсь показать вам, как люди выполняют это. Хорошо? | Now, Tone 40 on a Person would look to you at first just like High School Indoc that we were doing this afternoon. That's what it would look like at first. But let me assure you it has no relationship to it beyond the fact that two people are walking around and one is giving orders to the other. |
Отлично. Мне сложновато спланировать, как в точности мы будем это делать. Но я думаю, что если Кен начнёт сейчас одитировать Дика, то это займет весь остаток этого часа. Лучше всего, если вы снимете пиджаки. А также если я оттащу микрофон с дороги. | Now, the big difference here is that it is being done with total intention in the command and the acknowledgment. And actually it's much harder to coach. This doesn't at once become impossible to do. But you take somebody who is pretty good at this and you put him on a coach and have the coach try to act up and do something weird, and the next thing you know the coach goes into session. This is one of the wilder things that you'll observe here. All a sudden you'll see the coach, you'll say, „Well, this is no fun, the fellow is just doing 8-C.“ Believe me, the coach was trying! See, he was trying to revolt. But a good Tone 40 on a Person actually inhibits the revolt like mad. |
Вы заметите, сразу же, что это упражнение отнюдь не такое жёсткое и не требует такой уж значительной физической силы. Единственное, что не позволяет ему быть таким, - это просто тот факт, что намерение, хочешь не хочешь, продолжает доходить. Преклир продолжает это делать. Он не хочет, но он делает. Отлично. | Now, the auditing commands are the same as High School Indoc and 8-C. The auditing commands are just the same; there's no difference. Except there is intention and this slight difference: any coast off Tone 40 by the auditor in the session is a flunk. Which means too much pressure on the preclear, too strong a grip, too hard a push - those are all flunks. Too much grip on the wrist that hits the wall - that's a flunk. Falling off from Tone 40 with the auditing command; the intention is bad - that's a flunk. Getting complicated, isn't it? |
Теперь, тренер, дайте своему одитору надлежащие инструкции. | Now, you've watched this up here all the way through from Training 0 and you've experienced a lot of these lower ones yourself and each time we're using the last step combined into the new one, right? And now we're up to the point of where a slight smile, just a flicker of the fact that he knew the preclear spoke, is a flunk. Got that? You saw some of these people today; they kind of grin for a moment at the preclear... at the coach, you see. The auditor would kind of say, „That was a good try;” you know, or sort of give him a tiny little nod as he spoke, something like that. Those are all flunks on Tone 40 on a Person. |
It's got to be Tone 40 straight out. And that means the exact amount of effort necessary, the exact amount of intention necessary and a complete carry-out of the process, letter-perfect, from beginning to end. Otherwise it's a flunk. Now, that is Tone 40 on a Person. And a rough one it is. | |
| Coach: All right. You're going to run me on Tone 40 on a Person The commands are "Look at that wall, " plus an acknowledgment, "Walk over to that wall, " acknowledgment, "With your right hand, touch that wall, " acknowledgment, "Turn around, " and an acknowledgment Okay? You are to give me these commands with full intention, Tone 40 If you go off Tone 40 I'll give you a flunk. If you fail to use the proper amount of force, that is if you use too little so that I don't execute the command or if you use so much that it overwhelms me, and below 40, I'll flunk you. Understood? Okay ГII say only two things to you: "That's it," which will mean that's the end of the process you're running, and "Flunk" Okay. | Now, I'm going to show you some people doing this. Okay? Audience: Okay. Fine. |
| Тренер: Отлично Вы проведете мне «Тон 40 на человеке». Команды. «Посмотрите на чту стену», подтверждение, «Подойдите к этой Стенек», подтверждение, «Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой Стенек», подтверждение, «Повернитесь кругом » и подтверждение Хорошо? Вы должны подавать мне эти команды с полным намерением, Тон 40 Если вы отходите от Тона 40, я даю вам фланк. Если вы не прилагаете необходимой силы, то есть если вы прилагаете слишком мало силы, так что я не выполняю команду, или если вы прилагаете так много силы, что это ошеломляет меня, и ниже Тона 40, я даю вам фланк Понятно? Хорошо Я буду говорить вам только две вещи: «Закончили», что означает конец процесса, который вы проводите, и «Фланк» Хорошо | All right. Now, it's a little hard for me to put together exactly how we would go about this. But I think Ken Barrett auditing Dick Halpern should finish up this hour. |
& [Last names above were removed in the clearsound version.] | |
& Come on Mr. Barrett, where is you at? He didn't expect that, I gave him no warning at all, either of them. This is Dick Halpern, and Dr. Barrett. | |
| Auditor: Start? | I would say it'd be best if you took off your coats. Also be best if I dragged this microphone back here out of the road. You'll notice here, at once, that this isn't anywhere near as rough or as athletic. The only thing that keeps it from being is simply the fact that the intention, willy-nilly, keeps getting through. Preclear goes on doing it. He doesn't want to but he does. |
| Одитор: Начали? | All right. Now, coach, give your auditor his proper instructions. |
Coach: All right. You're going to run me on Tone 40 on a Person. The commands are „Look at that wall,“ plus an acknowledgment; | |
„Walk over to that wall,“ acknowledgment; | |
| Coach: Start. | „With your right hand, touch that wall,“ acknowledgment; '' |
| Тренер: Начали. | „Turn around,“ ''and an acknowledgment. |
Okay? You are to give me these commands with full intention, Tone 40. If you go off Tone 40, I'll give you a flunk. If you fail to use the proper amount of force, that is if you use too little so that I don't execute the command or if you use so much that it overwhelms me, and below 40, I'll flunk you. Understood? Okay I'll say only two things to you: „That's it,“ which will mean that's the end of the process you're running, and „Flunk.“ Okay | |
Auditor: Start? | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall | Coach: Start. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите на эту стену. Спасибо. Подойдите к этой стене. Спасибо. Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо. Посмотрите на эту стену. | Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. |
Coach: Oh, sure! | |
Auditor: Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Coach: Oh, sure! | Coach: I can't! You're pressing it too... against my side. |
| Тренер: О, конечно! | Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. |
Coach: You're getting awfully mean about this. | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. | Coach: It hurts. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Подойдите к этой стене. Спасибо. Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. | Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. |
Coach: Think of all the people out there. | |
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | |
| Coach: I can't! You're pressing it too - against my side. | Coach: Think of all the people out there. Don't be nervous. |
| Тренер: Я не могу! Вы давите слишком... на мой бок. | Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. |
Coach: Much better. You're more relaxed now. | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. | Coach: Think I'm going to get away from you or something? |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. | Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: I'm going. Thu don't have to keep crowding me. | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Coach: You're getting awfully mean about this. | Coach: All right. |
| Тренер: Ты становишься ужасно злобным. | Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. |
Coach: Mm-hm. | |
Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Coach: Okay. You look. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand... |
Coach: It's dusty up there. | |
Auditor: ... touch that wall. | |
| Coach: It hurts. | Coach: Sure. |
| Тренер: Это больно. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Awful dusty. | |
Auditor: Turn around. | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. | Coach: All right. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите на чту стену Спасибо. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Okay. | |
Auditor: Look at that wall. | |
| Coach: Think of all the people out there. | Coach: Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Подумай обо всех этих людях. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Thank you. | |
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | |
| Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | Coach: Walk over to that wall. |
| Одитор: Подойдите к этой стене. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Thank you. Thank you! | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Coach: Think of all the people out there. Don't be nervous. | Coach: You're welcome. |
| Тренер: Подумай обо всех этих людях. Не нервничай. | Auditor: With your right hand... |
Coach: All right. | |
Auditor: ... touch that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand... | Coach: Yeah. Just did. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Своей правой рукой... | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: All right. | |
Auditor: Turn around. | |
| Coach: That's much better. | Coach: That wall means something. |
| Тренер: Вот это намного лучше. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: You're getting my shirt dirty. You're getting my shirt dirty! | |
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. | |
| Auditor: ... touch that wall. | Coach: All right. |
| Одитор: ... прикоснитесь к этой стене. | Auditor: Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: You're welcome. All right. Okay. Don't grab me so hard. I'm going. What's the matter with you? | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Coach: You're more relaxed now. | Coach: You're welcome. |
| Тренер: Ты более расслаблен теперь. | Auditor: With your right hand... |
Coach: Thank you. | |
Auditor: ... touch that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. | Coach: Thank you. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Thank you. | |
Auditor: Turn around. | |
| Coach: Think I'm going to get away from you or something. | Coach: Thank you. Thank you. |
| Тренер: Думаешь, я собираюсь удрать от тебя или что-нибудь в этом роде. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Good. Good! | |
Auditor: Look at that wall. | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. | Coach: Good. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите ни эту стену. Спасибо. | Auditor: Thank you. |
Coach: Good. | |
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | |
| Coach: Sure. | Coach: Okay Good! Good! All right! |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. | Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. |
Coach: Sure. | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | Coach: You're welcome. |
| Одитор: Подойдите к этой стене | Auditor: Turn around. Thank you. |
Coach: You're welcome. Good. | |
LRH: That's it! | |
| Coach: All right. I'm going. You don't have to keep crowding me. | Thank you. Thank you very much. |
| Тренер: Отлично. Я иду. Тебе не нужно все время толкать меня. | & Thank you very much Dr. Barrett, thank you very much Dick Halpern. |
There wasn't much chance of a flunk there. Both of these gentlemen are Instructors in the ACC. Both of them have this thing as cold as ice. | |
& And there probably isn't anybody around that can flunk Barrett on this. But if anybody could have flunked him it would have been Dick Halpern. I was thinking under the stress of all this why, we might have gotten a mess up of one kind or another, but apparently, apparently his poise is not to be destroyed that easily. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | & Well now, who else are we going to get up here, huh? Who else are we going to get up here? It would have to be somebody that was pretty smooth on this, pretty smooth on this. Just to give you another example of this, only let's give you some randomness concerning this. Let's give you something here with a few more flunks. Let me see, let me see. Well, we had a good boy up here today with Richard Green, Richard Green, come on up here Richard. Now we're going to pull an awful dirty trick on John Farrell. Alright. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | & Student: I've never run this one. |
& Never run this, that's all right, come up here. He hasn't come up to this yet. That's fine, that's why you're here, take your coat off and put it up here, come on here Johnnie. OK. You betcha. Now, John I want you to audit Dick Green here, and | |
Dick I want you to coach him through this. So, you just coach him straight through, give him his instructions right where he is so the audience can hear you, and it doesn't matter whether you do it right or wrong, that's not any possibility, but make sure you flunk him every time you get him off on anything, see? | |
| Coach: All right. | & Coach: OK. |
| Тренер: Отлично. | & Alright. Let's go. |
& Coach: The commands are first, „Look at that wall,“ and, „Walk over to that wall,“ both acknowledged when I look at them. Then I'm going to walk over to it and acknowledge it, then, „With your right hand, touch that wall,“ and acknowledge it, then, „Turn around,“ and acknowledge that, then, „Look at that wall,“ and so on. | |
& Student | |
| Auditor: With your right hand touch that wall. | Auditor: Good. |
| Одитор: Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. | & Coach: You're to run this Tone 40 and then ... |
& Audience: Could you do that louder? | |
& Coach: OK. Tone 40 with full intention, and a smile or any recognition of what I'm saying or doing will be a flunk. | |
| Coach: Mm-hm. | & Student: OK. |
| Тренер: Угу. | & Coach: OK? |
& Student: Yup. | |
& LRH: Fine. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. | & Coach: OK. Start it. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо. Посмотрите на эту стену. | & Student: Look at that wall. Thank you. Go over to that wall. Thank you. Touch that wall. |
& Coach: OK. | |
& Student: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. | |
| Coach: Mm-hm. | & Coach: Which wall? Oh, thank you. |
| Тренер: Угу. | & Student: Thank you. Go over to that wall. Thank you. Touch that, touch that wall. |
& LRH: Flunk him. | |
& Coach: Yeah, flunk. I should have flunked you on the 'Go over to that wall,' and I want to count that as one. And 'Walk over to that wall.' | |
| Auditor: Thank you. Walk over to that wall. | & LRH: Yeah. He mucked the command. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Подойдите к этой стене. | & Coach: Yeah, on that one too. Yeah. |
& LRH: Yeah. | |
& Coach: It should have been 'With the right hand,' ... Take it from here, that last command. | |
| Coach: Okay. You're welcome, | & OK, now do it again. |
| Тренер: Хорошо. Пожалуйста. | & Student: Touch that wall. |
& Coach: Good. | |
& Student: Thank you. Turn around. Walk over to that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand... | & Coach: Look at that wall. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Своей правой рукой... | & Student: Thank you. |
& Coach: OK. | |
& Student: Go over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Coach: It's dusty up there. | Thank you. Turn around. Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Здесь пыльно. | & Coach: OK. |
& Student: Thank you. | |
& Coach: You're welcome. | |
| Auditor: ... touch that wall. | & Student: Go over to that wall. |
| Одитор: ... прикоснитесь к этой стене. | & Coach: Look at all those people there. |
& Student: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. | |
& Coach: With my left hand. | |
| Coach: Sure. | & Student: Thank you. Turn around. |
| Тренер: Конечно. | & Coach: Look, this is my right hand. |
& Student: Thank you. Look at that wall. | |
& Coach: OK. | |
| Auditor: Thank you | & Student: Thank you. Go over to that wall. With your right, thank you. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | & Coach: Flunk. You got that out before you... |
& Student: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. | |
& Coach: Turn around. | |
| Coach: Awful dusty. | & Student: Thank you. |
| Тренер: Ужасно пыльно. | & Coach: Thank you. |
& Student: Look at that wall. | |
& Coach: Look at that wall. | |
| Auditor: Turn around. | & Student: Thank you. |
| Одитор: Повернитесь кругом. | & Coach: I did look at that wall. |
& Student: Good. Snap! You smiled at him. You acknowledged the fact that he's got one more coming. Alright. Look at that wall. Thank you. Go over to that wall. | |
& Coach: Go over to that wall, go on. That's walk over to that wall. | |
| Coach: All right. | & Student: Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. |
| Тренер: Отлично. | & Coach: Touch that wall. |
& Student: Thank you. Turn around. | |
& Coach: Turn around. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | & Student: Thank you. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | & Coach: Thank you. |
& Student: Look at that wall. | |
& Coach: Look at that wall. | |
| Coach: Okay. | & Student: Thank you. |
| Тренер: Хорошо. | & Coach: Thank you. |
& Student: Walk over to that wall. | |
& Coach: Walk over to that wall. Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. | & Student: With your right hand, touch that wall. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите на эту стену. | & LRH: Snap! OK, thank you very much Johnnie. Thank you. Just wanted to give you an idea. |
I'm going to fish Bonnie [Barnie?] out from behind the curtain over here. I'm going to show you the exact steps by which this should be run. Because there are exact auditor positions. This is Bonnie. | |
& Bonnie Turner. | |
| Coach: Look at that wall | [clearsound transcript says Bonnie, might be Barnie, hard to tell and LRH says „him“ below - Ed.] |
| Тренер: Посмотрите на эту стену. | I'm just going to use him here just to show you the exact positions. We're not running Tone 40 on a Person. I just want to show you the positions. Okay, Bonnie? |
Now, when I say, „Look at that wall,“ from this side of the preclear, I will then continue to walk on this side of the preclear, won't I? | |
And when he gets over to the wall - watch. With your right hand, touch that wall. Now, where do I go to get this right hand, see? See, so I'm on the wrong side of the preclear. So the auditor always walks and directs from the right side of the preclear. It's done in this fashion. There's a very interesting shift of feet in Tone 40 on a Person, which makes it very valid. All right. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | You see that? |
Audience: Yeah. | |
Now, exactly what is happening here? I'll walk to this side and say, „Look at that wall.“ | |
| Coach: Thank you. | I'm on his right side. Right? |
| Тренер: Спасибо. | And when he comes over here he then touches - I tell him to put... „With your right hand, touch that wall.“ And he touches the wall. |
Then I step behind him as I turn him. Now, get these as two simultaneous moves. You think this doesn't amount to much but, believe me, I'll show you the trick here in a minute. | |
We turn him. | |
| Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | Now where are you going to go, Bonnie? |
| Одитор: Подойдите к этой стене. | You see that? Now, as a matter of fact here, we've got a shift which blocks the preclear from going anywhere. And in view of the fact that Tone 40 on a Person is not for high-toned preclears... Did you realize that? Tone 40 on a Person is about eight miles south of simple 8-C. Very, very low process or a medium-range process. It doesn't matter, it's one that goes a lot of all the way, see? But this is the one that you would run on somebody if you wanted very fast results just on an ordinary preclear, or one that you'd run on a psycho. Therefore, you have the same foot pattern as otherwise. When he turns around here and puts his right hand on the wall, we turn him always counterclockwise and step in front of him and pin him with our two hands lightly, then step off here and point to the other wall. See that? That is the proper way to do it. |
Now, you missed the piece de resistance this afternoon when Nibsy and I were doing this and I was the coach, because I actually got out of this. He was doing this to me as the auditor. You remember when I suddenly moved out of it? I was only able to do that because he had relaxed the pressure of one hand. The second he relaxed it I simply went out from under. In other words, he had me by this shoulder very securely, but not by this one. And I just simply went that way. | |
So when you turn the fellow around - the preclear around - you take hold of both his shoulders, don't you see? There he is. Now, you step off this way still with this shoulder. But because you've appeared here and steadied him with the turn-around, any impulse to blow that he had evaporates. You see this? | |
| Coach: Walk over to that wall. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! | Now, I might ask you what advantage there would be to being on the left-hand side. And there is none whatsoever. In the first place, the stronger side of most people is the right side. They tend to bolt to the right if they're going to. |
| Тренер: Подойдите к этой стене. Спасибо. Спасибо. Спасибо! | Let me show you something else about this. I want to show you something quite incidental to this. We walk over here and put a hand on the wall. We have come up against a barrier, haven't we? And actually this process is running stops into the case, and the case lets go of backtrack stops. And that's one of the reasons 8-C works. Got that? Stops in engrams and things like this evaporate because he's getting plenty of stops in present time. Remember what I told you in that last hour about you give him enough kicks in the shins? Well, he thinks a lot of stops are necessary. You run him on this process and he finds a whole bunch of new stops and he says, „Well, I'll let the old ones go“ - and he does. |
Okay. The proper way to run it then is very simple. Turn him around (here, over here). | |
Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Thank you, Bonnie. Thank you. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | So we get this various phenomena of being able to carry on with this. |
It's a very funny thing, you know, you'd think the army, or something must have been therapeutic if people were marched. Entirely different intention in it. But the funny part of it is that sometimes marching is more therapeutic for low-level cases than not marching. As I've already remarked to the 17th ACC during a lecture, Israel's total campaign of bringing sanity back to the various peoples who have come from beleaguered areas of Europe where they were persecuted by the Germans, and so on, by the Russians... They have come into Israel there, they have to be taken care of; there's no adequate psychotherapy available so they throw them in the army. | |
Well, now they don't know why this works. But actually somebody is controlling their time and motions. And after about a year these madmen turn sane, which is quite interesting. They have a much different purpose in their army than this - the US army has purpose, I'm sure. | |
| Coach: You're welcome. | Here though, we do see this technique as being - old 8-C was responsible for some very large percentage. By the way, we have a book back there called The ACC Preparatory Manual. It has quite a bit of data in it. The ACC Preparatory Manual is rather a misnomer. It's got a lot of data on assists which would be of interest to Book Auditors; it has some lists of books and tapes which are quite interesting. And in addition to that, it has the summary research project results. Some of the auditors remember a mimeograph sheet that I sent to them a long time ago and asked them to fill out. And when all of these were accumulated from auditors all over the world they were compiled into the summary research project report, and that is in the ACC Manual. You ought to get yourself a copy of that because you'd be interested in it. |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. | But amongst the various things which are in this summary research project is the dominance of 8-C. It ranked right up there; it compared quite favorably with Havingness itself. In other words, just an older, less workable process than the one you are seeing right here at this moment was responsible in the majority for the releases from alcoholism and psychosomatic illnesses galore. All kinds of things it did for people - just this drill all by itself. |
Now, Tone 40 8-C goes much lower and advances much higher than old simple 8-C. And all we've done is refine this old process. And this process is very old, clear back to Camden, ACC Number 1. Now, it wasn't practiced much until ACC Number 2, but it existed then. That was a long time ago, wasn't it? | |
So you'd think that marching somebody around like this might or might not do something for them, but you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised - the regularity of the command, the obedience of the command, the communication that goes in it, the exceeding amount of control that goes into it, the fact they're walking into barriers and getting stopped. It works on fairly low-level cases. | |
| Auditor: With your right hand... | Don Breeding, monitoring the tape recorders back here, tells me of a session he ran of 8-C on a puppy. And he ran 8-C on a puppy. And he had a awful time. He was very glad when it flattened, because he himself was so exhausted he couldn't have gone on another motion. |
| Одитор: Своей правой рукой... | But he actually took this puppy and walked the puppy, with all commands and everything, through 8-C, see? Put his puppy's paw on the wall and so on. He no more than started this than the dog started to scream. And continued to scream practically from there on out, nothing but the most ear-splitting, piercing screams. Sounds weird, doesn't it? And because Don Breeding got exhausted it didn't get through to a stage of clearing the dog. But I think it changed the behavior pattern of the dog from what I'm told. |
Nobody has run this experiment because I wouldn't know what a dog thetan was unless a dog thetan was a thetan. And I don't see why a dog shouldn't respond to this as well as a psycho, as well as a normal person. See, I don't know that these things would respond any differently from one person to another. This is an experiment maybe some of you will try sometime. | |
It certainly works on a little child. A little child that can walk a bit and so on can be run on this with considerable success. | |
| Coach: All right. | I'm going to give you a whole talk tomorrow on Child Scientology. That's not for now. Thank you. I'm merely trying to show you right now what this process is and how it is done. |
| Тренер: Отлично. | All right. All right. We need two victims. We need two victims here. And as I look over the bright and smiling faces of people, it's very hard to find victims for Tone 40 on a Person for this excellent reason: the person really should be well drilled through all of the lower Indoc steps; should be pretty well drilled. Let me see. I think that Jack Horner should run Winkle. |
[The last name Horner is omitted in the clearsound version.] | |
Hi, Jack. | |
| Auditor: ... touch that wall. | Male voice: How are you? Senor Winkle. |
| Одитор: ... прикоснитесь к этой стене. | Male voice: Tanto gusto. |
All right. Now, I want you to coach him on Tone 40 on a Person. Have you been through that in school? All right, that's good. And just give him the regular coaching on it and, flunk him for the reasons that you would flunk him on that. | |
Coach: Okay. LRH: Good. | |
| Coach: Yeah. 1 just did. | Coach: Well, the commands are „Look at that wall.“ „Walk over to that wall.“ „With your right hand, touch that wall.“ There's an acknowledgment each. „Turn around“ - acknowledgment, and the same thing again. And, well, I think almost everything will be a flunk. |
| Тренер: Да. Я только что прикоснулся. | LRH: That's encouraging him, of course! |
Auditor: Is the „Flunk“ and the „That's it“ still consistent? | |
Coach: No. „Flunk“ is flunk. And „That's it“ is that's it. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Auditor: All right. Fine. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | LRH: In other words, those are the only two statements he can make that are valid. |
Auditor: Right. | |
Coach: If I say flunk, if - you go on and you don't stop because I say „Flunk.“ You just know you flunked. | |
| Coach: All right. | Auditor: Right. Okay Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Отлично. | Coach: Yeah. |
Auditor: All right. Walk over to it. | |
Coach: Hey, do you know the joke about three ants? Too bad. | |
| Auditor: Turn around. | Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Fine. |
| Одитор: Повернитесь кругом. | Coach: Flunk. |
LRH: Flunk. | |
Auditor: All right. Turn around. Good. Look at that wall. Walk over to it. Audience: Flunk. | |
| Coach: That wall means something. | LRH: No acknowledgment. |
| Тренер: Эта стена собирается что-то сделать. | Auditor: All right. With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. Okay. Turn around. Good. |
Look at that wall. Good. Walk over to it. | |
Coach: Flunk. „Walk over to that wall.“ | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Auditor: Okay. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Coach: Flunk. |
Auditor: Good. All right. Turn around. | |
Coach: You don't have to push me. I heard you. | |
| Coach: You're getting my shirt dirty. You're getting my shirt dirty! | Auditor: Good. Look at that wall. Good. Walk over to it... Walk over to that wall. |
| Тренер: Ты пачкаешь мою рубашку. Ты пачкаешь мою рубашку! | Coach: You don't have to get nervous. I'm doing this, I'm walking. |
Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
Coach: Flunk. | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. | Auditor: Good. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите на эту стену. Спасибо. | Coach: Flunk. |
Auditor: Good. Turn around. | |
Coach: Are you smiling? | |
| Coach: All right. | Auditor: Good. Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Отлично. | Coach: Are you smiling? |
Auditor: Good. Walk over to that wall. | |
Coach: Are you smiling? | |
| Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. Turn around. |
| Одитор: Подойдите к этой стене. | Coach: Good. |
Auditor: Good. | |
Coach: Okay. | |
| Coach: You're welcome. All right. Okay. Don't grab me so hard. I'm going. What's the matter with you? | Auditor: Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. Отлично. Хорошо. Не хватай меня так сильно. Я иду. Да что с тобой? | Coach: That wall? |
Auditor: Good. Walk over to it. | |
Coach: The same wall? | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Auditor: Walk over to that wall. LRH: Flunk. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. |
Coach: With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
Auditor: Good. | |
| Coach: You're welcome. | Coach: Okay. |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. | Auditor: Turn around. Good. Look at that wall. |
Coach: That wall. | |
Auditor: Good. Walk over to that wall. | |
| Auditor: With уour right hand... | Coach: That wall? The left one. |
| Одитор: Своей правой рукой... | Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. |
Coach: I can do this with the same right hand? | |
Auditor: Good. Turn around. | |
| Coach: Thank you. | Coach: You see... but your right... but your right... |
| Тренер: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. |
Coach: ... How do you know which is my right hand, see? | |
Auditor: Look at that wall. | |
| Auditor: ... touch that wall. | Coach: That wall? |
| Одитор: ... прикоснитесь к этой стене. | Auditor: Good. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: The same wall? | |
Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Coach: Thank you. | Coach: This wall? |
| Тренер: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. |
Coach: Okay. | |
Auditor: Turn around. Good. Look at that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Coach: That one? |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: That wall. | |
Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Coach: Thank you. | Coach: Okay |
| Тренер: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. |
Coach: Are you married? | |
Auditor: Turn around. | |
| Auditor: Turn around. | Coach: Are you married? |
| Одитор: Повернитесь кругом. | Auditor: Good. With your right... Walk over to that wall. Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. Turn around. |
Coach: How long does this go on? | |
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall. | |
| Coach: Thank you. Thank you. | Coach: That wall? Okay. |
| Тренер: Спасибо, Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. Walk over to it. |
Coach: Flunk. „Walk over to that wall.“ | |
Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Coach: You got to scratch your nose first? |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Good. |
Coach: Are you nervous? | |
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. | |
| Coach: Good. Good! | Coach: Look at that wall. |
| Тренер: Хорошо. Хорошо! | Auditor: Turn around. |
Coach: I turned around, but this way. | |
Auditor: Thank you. | |
| Auditor: Look at that wall. | Coach: You're welcome. |
| Одитор: Посмотрите на эту стену. | Auditor: Look at that wall. Good. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: Which wall? That wall? | |
Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Coach: Good. | Coach: With the right hand, touch that wall. |
| Тренер: Хорошо. | Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Good. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: That wall. | |
Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Coach: This wall? |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Auditor: Good. Turn around. |
Coach: Turn around? | |
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall. | |
| Coach: Good. | Coach: That wall? |
| Тренер: Хорошо. | Auditor: Good. |
Coach: Okay. I will. | |
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | |
| Auditor: Walk over to that wall. | Male voice: Act like you do down in the basement. |
| Одитор: Подойдите к этой стене. | Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. |
Coach: Some people looking at me; I'm shaking. Male voice: Make him laugh. | |
Coach: Make him laugh? | |
| Coach: Okay Good! Good! All right! | Auditor: Good. With your right hand, touch that wall. Good. Turn around. |
| Тренер: Ладно. Хорошо! Хорошо! Отлично! | Coach: You flunked on that. Thu didn't have to use force on me to get. |
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall. | |
Coach: Yeah. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand.. | Auditor: Good. Walk over to that wall. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. Своей правой рукой... | Coach: The same wall? That's not a wall. That's a piece of wood down here. |
Auditor: Fine. With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
Coach: You flunked on that, man. I didn't put my hand on there. | |
| Coach: Sure. | Auditor: Good. Turn around. Thank you. |
| Тренер: Конечно. | Coach: You're welcome. |
Auditor: Look at that wall. Good. Walk over to it. | |
Coach: I didn't put my hand up, so don't get rough. Okay? When you tell me to touch... | |
| Auditor: ... touch that wall. | Auditor: Good. |
| Одитор: ... прикоснитесь к этой стене. | Coach: Flunk. Flunk! Thu didn't give me the command to put my hand up there. I flunked you. Thu never told me to put my hand up there. You haven't told me to put my hand up there! |
Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
Coach: Okay. I touched it. | |
| Coach: Sure. | Auditor: Good. |
| Тренер: Конечно. | Coach: Just tell me, I'll do it. |
Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. LRH: Flunk. | |
Coach: You flunked. | |
| Auditor: Thank you. | Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. |
| Одитор: Спасибо. | Coach: Flunk. Flunk. |
Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. | |
Coach: Flunk. We went over that already Turn around is coming. Flunk. Flunk. Flunk. Flunk. I did it already. You thanked me for it, remember? Are you an auditor? You know what you're doing? Hey! You gave me that command already. You gave me that command. You told me that already. Flunk!! I told you, „Turn around“ is coming. I touched the wall. I won't touch the wall. I touched the wall already. I touched the wall. I told you we weren't on that. The hand one is done. | |
| Coach: You're welcome. | LRH: (laughing) Okay. That's it. |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. | Auditor: Thank you very much. |
They shouldn't make me laugh that hard. | |
Ah, dear! Wow! Okay. Well, we won't have any candidates after that I'm sure. | |
| Auditor: Turn around. Thank you. | So I think, though, we have a moment for Jan Halpern to run Margee McCormick. |
| Одитор: Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо. | & Hi ya, Margie. Somebody's briefing her back there. Hi ya Jan. |
& Jan: Hi. | |
& Dr. Jan Halpern. | |
| Coach: You're welcome. Good. | Okay now. Why don't you just run her; and you coach her with your inimitable style. |
| Тренер: Пожалуйста. Хорошо. | Female voice: Oh, you're going to be coach, Margee? |
LRH: Hm-hm. | |
Female voice: You'll be so loud and clear. | |
| LRH: That's it! | Coach: Now, Jan, you're going to run me... |
| ЛРХ: Закончили. | Female voice: Louder. |
Coach: You 're going to run me on 8-C.
Спасибо. Большое спасибо. Здесь было не так уж много шансов для фланка. Оба этих джентльмена - инструкторы «Продвинутого практичес кого курса». И они оба знают это дело как свои пять пальцев.
Auditor: Okay.
Я собираюсь вытянуть Бонни из-за занавеса вот сюда. Я покажу вам точные шаги, в соответствии с которыми это нужно проводить. Потому что существуют совершенно определённые положения, которые занимает одитор. Так, это Бонни.
Coach: The commands are „Look at that wall.“ „Walk over to that wall.“ „With your right hand, touch that wall.“ And I'll acknowledge... I mean, you'll acknowledge that.
Я просто собираюсь использовать его, чтобы показать вам эти совер шенно определённые положения. Мы не проводим «Тон 40 на человеке». Я просто хочу показать вам эти положения. Хорошо, Бонни?
Auditor: Okay.
Когда я говорю: «Посмотрите на эту стену», я нахожусь с этой стороны от преклира, а затем буду продолжать идти с этой стороны, так?
Coach: You'll acknowledge each one of these as I do them, too.
И когда он дойдёт до стены - смотрите. Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. Куда я иду, чтобы взять эту правую руку, видите?
Auditor: Okay.
Видите, таким образом я нахожусь не с той стороны от преклира. Так что одитор всегда идёт и направляет преклира, находясь от него с правой стороны. Это делается таким образом. В «Тоне 40 на человеке» есть очень интересная перестановка ног, которая делает его очень эффективным. Отлично.
Coach: And it's to be run on... in Tone 40.
Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо. Посмотрите на эту стену. Спасибо. Подойдите к этой стене. Спасибо. Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо.
Auditor: Uh-huh.
Вы видите это?
Coach: With good intention.
Теперь, что в точности здесь происходит? Я перехожу на эту сторону и говорю: «Посмотрите на эту стену». Я нахожусь справа от него. Правильно?
Auditor: How about „Turn around“?
И когда он идёт сюда и затем прикасается к стене, я прошу его дотронуться: «Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене». И он прикасается к стене.
Coach: Yeah. Afterwards, you'll tell me to turn around.
Затем я делаю шаг, становясь позади него, когда я его поворачиваю. Теперь, сделайте так, чтобы эти два движения выполнялись одновременно. Вы думаете, что этим мы многого не добьёмся, но, поверьте мне... я покажу вам этот приём здесь через минуту.
Auditor: All right.
Мы поворачиваем его.
Coach: Then we'll run it on the other wall. Same way
Так, Бонни, куда вам теперь идти?
Auditor: Okay.
Вы видите это? Теперь, на самом деле, мы выполняем перемещение, которое блокирует преклира и не даёт ему никуда уйти. И принимая во внимание тот факт, что «Тон 40 на человеке» не для высокотонных преклиров... Вы осознаёте это? «Тон 40 на человеке» примерно тремя этажами ниже, чем простой 8-К. Это процесс очень, очень низкого уровня или процесс «средней дальности действия». Это неважно, он охватывает значительную часть всего диапазона, понимаете?
Coach: Okay?
Но это то, что вы стали бы проводить обычному преклиру, если бы хотели получить результат довольно быстро, или стали бы проводить психотику. Следовательно, у вас такая же схема перемещения ног, как и в других процессах. Когда он тут поворачивается кругом и дотрагивается правой рукой до стены, мы поворачиваем его всегда против часовой стрелки и делаем шаг, чтобы встать перед ним, и слегка придерживаем его обеими руками, затем отступаем сюда и показываем на другую стену. Видите это? Вот так это нужно делать.
Auditor: Yes.
Далее, вы пропустили гвоздь программы сегодня днём, потому что я на самом деле улизнул. Он выполнял со мной это как одитор. Помните, когда я внезапно вырвался? Я смог это сделать только потому, что он ослабил давление одной руки. В тот момент, когда он ослабил его, я просто вырвался из-под его руки. Другими словами, он держал меня очень надежно за это плечо, но не за это. И я просто ушёл в эту сторону.
Coach: And the only things that I will say are „Flunk,“ see...
Так что когда вы поворачиваете парня кругом - преклира кругом, вы берёте его за оба плеча, понятно? Вот он. Теперь вы отступаете в эту сторону, по-прежнему держа это плечо. Но любое побуждение сбежать, которое у него было, испаряется, потому что вы оказались здесь и зафиксировали его при повороте. Вы видите это?
Auditor: Yeah.
Теперь, я мог бы вас спросить, было бы какое-нибудь преимущество, если бы вы находились с левой стороны? Да вообще никакого. Во-первых, более сильная сторона у большинства людей - это правая сторона. Они обычно удирают в правую сторону, если они собираются удрать.
Coach: ... if you've done something that doesn't fit with these requirements.
Позвольте мне показать кое-что ещё на эту тему. Я хочу показать вам кое-что, в значительной степени являющееся здесь попутным обстоятель ством. Мы подходим сюда и дотрагиваемся рукой до стены. Мы подошли к препятствию, не так ли? И в действительности этот процесс вводит в кейс остановки, и кейс перестаёт удерживать остановки, находящиеся на прошлом траке. И это одна из причин, по которым 8-К работает. Понятно?
Auditor: Yes.
Остановки в инграммах и подобные вещи испаряются, потому что человек получает большое количество остановок в настоящее время. Помните, я вам говорил час назад о том, что вы даёте ему достаточное количество пинков в голень? Что ж, он думает, что необходимо много остановок. Вы проводите ему этот процесс, и он находит целую кучу новых остановок и говорит: «Что ж, я отпущу старые» - и он их отпускает.
Coach: Or „That's it.“ And that will be the end of... end of the demonstration.
Хорошо. Поэтому правильный способ проводить это очень прост: поверните его кругом (здесь, вот здесь).
Auditor: Okay.
Посмотрите на эту стену. Спасибо. Подойдите к этой стене. Спасибо. Своей правой рукой прикоснитесь к этой стене. Спасибо. Повернитесь кругом. Спасибо.
Coach: This is a demonstration.
Спасибо, Бонни. Спасибо.
Auditor: I understand.
Так что мы получаем эти разнообразные явления, связанные со способностью продолжать заниматься этим.
Coach: Okay.
Это очень странная вещь, понимаете, вы бы подумали, что армия или что-то в этом роде оказала бы терапевтический эффект, если бы людей заставляли маршировать. Там совершенно другое намерение. Но странная вещь: иногда кейсы низкого уровня получают больший терапевтический эффект, когда они маршируют, чем когда они не маршируют. Как я уже отмечал в лекции 17-го ППК, вся кампания Израиля по восстановлению душевного здоровья представителей различных народов, которые вернулись из оккупированных территорий Европы, где они подвергались преследова ниям со стороны немцев, русских и так далее... Они прибыли в Израиль. О них нужно заботиться. Подходящей психотерапии нет, так что их бросают в армию.
LRH: Oh, that's no fair. It isn't a demonstration. This is for blood.
Что ж, сейчас они не знают, почему это работает, но на самом деле кто-то контролирует время и движения этих людей. И спустя примерно год эти безумные становятся разумными, что весьма интересно. Цель, которую они преследуют в своей армии, очень далека от этого - у армии США есть цель, я уверен.
Auditor: Look at that wall.
Здесь, однако, мы действительно видим эту технику как... заслугой старого 8-К были очень большие процентные показатели. Кстати, у нас есть книга, которая называется «Подготовительное руководство для ППК». В ней содержится довольно много данных. «Подготовительное руководство ППК» - это скорее неправильное название. В нём содержится много данных по ассистам, которые были бы интересны одиторам, работающим по книге; в нём содержатся некоторые списки книг и лекций, представляющие большой интерес. И в дополнение к этому, в нём содержатся результаты «Итогового исследовательского проекта». Некоторые одиторы помнят размноженный на мимеографе лист, который я когда-то давно рассылал им с просьбой заполнить его. И когда все эти листы были собраны от одиторов со всего мира, из них был составлен «Доклад по "Итоговому исследователь скому проекту"», и он содержится в «Руководстве ППК». Вам следует получить по экземпляру, потому что вам это будет интересно.
Coach: What wall? I don't see any wall.
Но среди различных вещей, содержащихся в «Итоговом исследователь ском проекте», преобладает 8-К. Там он находится на самом верху; в сравнении с самим «обладанием» он занимает более высокое положение. Другими словами, просто более старый, менее действенный процесс, чем тот, что вы видите прямо здесь, в настоящий момент, в большинстве случаев был причиной избавления от алкоголизма и моря психосоматических заболеваний. Он делал для людей всевозможные вещи... просто это упражнение само по себе.
Auditor: Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you.
Далее, «8-К в Тоне 40» охватывает намного более низкие уровни и намного более высокие уровни, чем старый простой 8-К. И всё, что мы сделали, - это усовершенствовали этот старый процесс. А этот процесс очень старый, берущий начало ещё в Камдене, ППК номер 1. Его не очень-то использовали до ППК номер 2, но он существовал тогда. Это было давно, не так ли?
Coach: I do.
Так что можно думать, что если кого-то заставить маршировать, подобно тому, как я говорил, то это может дать ему что-то, а может и не дать, но вы удивитесь. Вы удивитесь: регулярность команд, подчинение команде, общение, которое здесь участвует, избыточный контроль, который здесь имеет место, тот факт, что они наталкиваются на препятствия и это их останавливает. Это работает на кейсах достаточно низкого уровня.
Auditor: Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall.
Дон Бридинг, который сидит здесь за магнитофонами, рассказал мне о сессии 8-К, которую он провёл щенку. И он провёл 8-К щенку. И для Дона это было настоящим кошмаром. Он был очень рад, когда процесс сгладился, потому что он сам был так измотан, что не мог выполнить ещё одно... ещё одно движение.
Coach: All right, listen to me, Jan. Honest, I do like using that. Please can't we use this? Please.
Но он на самом деле взял этого щенка и провёл ему 8-К, со всеми командами и всем остальным. Понимаете? Он клал лапу своего щенка на стену и так далее. Не успел он начать это, как собака стала визжать. И продолжала визжать практически от начала и до конца, - не что иное, как самый оглушительный, пронзительный визг. Звучит странно, не так ли? И поскольку Дон Бридинг вымотался, они не прошли процесс вплоть до стадии клирования собаки. Но я думаю, что это изменило характер поведе ния собаки, судя по тому, что мне рассказали.
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you.
Никто не проводил такой эксперимент, потому что я не знаю, что такое собачий тэтан, кроме того что собачий тэтан - это тэтан. И я не вижу причин, по которым собака не должна реагировать на это, также как и психотик, также как и нормальный человек. Понимаете, я не думаю, чтобы эти вещи от человека к человеку вызывали сколько-нибудь разную реакцию. Это эксперимент, который, может быть, кто-нибудь из вас попытается когда-нибудь провести.
Coach: You're welcome.
Это определённо работает на маленьком ребёнке. Маленькому ребёнку, который может немного ходить, можно провести это с большим успехом.
Auditor: Turn around. Thank you.
Завтра я прочту вам целую лекцию по детской Саентологии. Но не сейчас.
Coach: This is really sad. I've been wanting you to run 8-C...
Спасибо. Я всего лишь пытаюсь показать вам сейчас, что из себя представляет этот процесс и как он выполняется.
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Отлично. Нам нужны две жертвы. Нам сейчас нужны две жертвы. И глядя на сияющие и улыбающиеся лица людей, я думаю, что очень трудно найти жертвы для «Тона 40 на человеке», по одной простой причине: человек, на самом деле, должен быть хорошо натренирован на всех более низких ступеньках обучения; он должен быть очень хорошо натренирован. Ну-ка, посмотрим. Я думаю, что Джек проведёт это Винклу.
Coach: God, you're fast! How did you do that?
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around.
Coach: Thank you.
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: Hello, Ron.
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall.
Coach: Is this part of the wall? That would be...
Auditor: Thank you. Turn around. Thank you.
Coach: You're welcome.
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: All right. Did you see how good I did it? And I've just had a three-weeks' intensive from your husband.
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around.
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall.
Coach: I won't!
Auditor: Thank you.
Coach: I refuse! I will not look at that wall.
Auditor: Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you.
Coach: You know, I really am nervous.
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: I haven't been on the stage for centuries. I'm scared to death.
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you.
Coach: I can't find a thing to tell you to be flunked about.
Auditor: Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: This isn't fair! You've had experience.
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over to that wall. Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around.
Coach: You're sure particular aren't you?
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall.
Coach: Hey, that's a cute dress.
Auditor: Thank you.
Coach: You know, that's a real cute dress.
Auditor: Walk over to that wall.
Coach: How many buttons you got on it? One, two, three, four, five, six.
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you.
Coach: Did you hear that?
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: There's somebody in this auditing room. There's somebody standing here, Jan.
Auditor: Thank you.
Coach: Honest. Look. If you'd just look back there, you'd see there's somebody...
Auditor: With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around.
Coach: Hey, friend, look.
Auditor: Thank you. Look at that wall.
Coach: There's somebody standing here.
Auditor: Thank you. Walk over to that wall.
Coach: Right there. Can't you see him? If you'd just touch him.. too!
Auditor: Thank you. With your right hand, touch that wall. Thank you. Turn around. Thank you. Look at that wall. Thank you. Walk over...
LRH: That's it. That's it. Thank you, Margee. Thank you, Margee. Thank you, Jan. You betcha.
Well, that's really hardly fair; you've had two ACC Instructors up here...
& ... in ... three of them; you've had Ken Barrett and Dick Halpern and Jan Halpern up here on this.
That's just mostly because they can do it, you know.
Actually this is a very easy one to get a flunk on, as you'll notice there.
Now, it's quite remarkable that auditing at this level you actually don't get the same ability on the part of a coach to kick back. You understand that, don't you? And you noticed how wild High School Indoc was. You know? Well, Winkle was restraining himself just a little bit, but not very much.
As a result of the Tone 40 intention and so on, people have a tendency to stay pretty close to it and to more or less stay in session fairly well.
And in coaching it, why, you should realize that - that you're liable to go into session and simply make a rather extraordinary effort. Instead of taking it milder, try to take it wilder than High School Indoc. You got the idea?
Now, we have always known that bodies would simply walk around if we told them to. We've known that in many cases the auditor has simply been monitoring the other person's body. We've known this for some time that this was possible. But we didn't know how to do it rather invariably. You see? And that's what we have worked up to here with these Training Drills. We can do this rather easily.
It's quite interesting; after you've been at this for a while some old lady steps off the curb - she shouldn't step off the curb - you just simply throw the intention at her to step back up the curb and there's nothing she does about it at all - she steps back up on the curb.
Funny part of it was, is the reverse would not particularly work. Whereas you throw a clear-cut intention for her to throw herself under the nearest truck - nonfunctional. Why is it nonfunctional? Destruction is not Tone 40. Okay. Now, you've seen this Tone 40 on a Person. And with that you have seen all of these Training Drills. Now, the trick is simply to be able to do them smoothly, to do them every time, to do them invariably and to be able to get a complete win across the boards. That is the trick. Now, that's not much of a trick. About, maybe, oh, an HCA Course is about all that stands between you and being able to do it or an ACC or several weeks of coaching or something of this character. You understand that?
These things are doable. I have shown you all of them. And really there are no magic tricks in between. It is the ability to do it. And the beauty of it is the people know whether they can or not.
Well, I've had an awful lot of fun today. I don't know whether you have or not.
Tomorrow we're going to take up several things. And I will try to show you some of CCH all in a rush - a number of the steps - and give you some discussion of this. I'll try to give you some data on Child Scientology.
And we have finished, right now, the third day of the congress. I'm enjoying it. How about you?
Good night.
Что ж, это, на самом деле, едва ли можно назвать честным; это были два инструктора ППК. Главным образом, именно поэтому они могут это делать, понимаете?
На самом деле, на этом упражнении очень легко получить фланк, как вы заметите.
Довольно примечательно, что когда одитинг проводится на этом уровне, тренер, на самом деле, не способен в той же степени оказывать вам сопротивление. Вы понимаете это, да? И вы заметили, каким диким было «Обучение повышенного уровня». Понимаете? Ну, Винкл сдерживал себя лишь слегка, но не очень сильно.
Как результат намерения в Тоне 40, у людей есть тенденция оставаться в состоянии, очень близком к Тону 40, и более или менее неплохо оставаться в сессии.
А когда вы тренируете это, вы должны осознавать, что... что вы можете попасть в сессию, и просто прилагайте невероятные усилия. Вместо того чтобы выполнять это более мягко, старайтесь выполнить это более дико, чем «Обучение повышенного уровня». Вы поняли идею?
Далее, мы всегда знали, что тела просто ходят, если мы говорим им, чтобы они ходили. Мы знали, что во многих случаях одитор просто контролировал тело другого человека. На протяжении какого-то времени мы знали, что это возможно. Но мы не знали, как делать это с достаточным постоянством. Понимаете? И это то, чего мы добились с помощью этих тренировочных упражнений. Мы можем делать это очень легко.
Довольно интересно, что после того, как вы поупражнялись в этом какое-то время... Какая-то пожилая женщина сходит с края тротуара, а ей не стоило сходить с тротуара, вы просто посылаете ей намерение, чтобы она встала обратно на тротуар, и она вообще никак этому не сопротивляется - она заходит обратно на тротуар.
Забавно то, что наоборот это не особо работает. Хотя вы посылаете ей чёткое намерение броситься под ближайший грузовик, это не работает. Почему это не работает? Разрушение - это не Тон 40.
Хорошо. Теперь, вы увидели этот «Тон 40 на человеке». И, таким образом, вы увидели все тренировочные упражнения. Фокус заключается в том, чтобы просто быть способным выполнять их гладко, выполнять их каждый раз, выполнять их неизменно и быть способным достигать полной победы везде и во всём. В этом состоит фокус. Но не такой уж это и фокус. Возможно, курс «Дипломированный одитор Хаббарда» - это примерно всё, что отделяет вас от того, чтобы быть способным делать это; или «Продвинутый практический курс», или несколько недель тренировки или чего-то подобного. Вам понятно?
Эти вещи выполнимы. Я показал вам их все. И, в действительности, среди них нет никаких магических штучек. Это способность делать это. И вся прелесть этого заключается в том, что люди знают, могут они это делать или нет.
Что ж, я получил огромное удовольствие сегодня. Не знаю, как вы.
Завтра мы рассмотрим несколько вещей. И я попытаюсь показать вам некоторые из КОО; всё очень быстро: ряд шагов, и затем мы это обсудим. Я постараюсь дать вам некоторые данные по детской Саентологии.
Ну вот мы и завершили третий день конгресса. Мне это доставляет удовольствие. А вам?
Всего доброго.